I've been a cinephile since the 1970s and it's a lonely state of being. I remember meeting a young lady co-worker at my second big job in the 1980s and she starts talking about Wim Wenders and Yasujiro Ozu and I'm like, "Wait, what?! You know about them?" and it was like the first time in my life I'd ever met anyone who knew what I was talking about. No, we didn't marry, lol, as I was already engaged, but it just illustrates how outside the mainstream it is to go deeply into the international and classic and indie cinema and love it so much yet have absolutely nobody to share it with. Cereal at Midnight is a good place to vent.
Personally, I'd like to see more of these unscripted videos. It's something that's refreshing and different from the typical content that I'm accustomed to, which isnt a bad thing. Whether someone is a cinephile, movie enthusiast, movie buff, moviegoer, or collector, it's all the same thing. At the end of the day, all of those people, regardless of what they call themselves, they have a passion and love for movies and cinema. We're all part of a massive community that enjoys watching films. That's the important thing. Otherwise, thanks, Heath! As always, I appreciate the hard work, dedication, and passion! Keep it up! God bless and stay safe!
If a cinephile, movie enthusiast, movie buff, moviegoer, or collector are all the same thing, then why the anger and outrage, which is why I made this video? I'm tired of being told that I'm pretentious when I don't like something others do or do like something others don't. I'm tired of being told that I'm a "true fan" because I have a large collection. When I asked my viewers a month or two ago "where are the cinephiles", a huge portion of them expressed a total hatred for modern movies. If we all love movies, then why is there a vocal group that's trying to sink movies that don't fit with what they want? Why are influencers encouraging review bombing of movies on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb? Why do my physical media videos get 5 or even 10 times the views that my interviews with creators and industry professionals get? I appreciate your comment and it's not my intention to argue, but I do not think we're all fans. I think there are people in this online space that HATE most movies.
@CerealAtMidnight Why the hate and outrage? It's the society that we are living in, unfortunately. Sure, there are a lot of people out there who genuinely love movies. However, at the same time, there are a lot of people who will show anger and outrage because your opinion doesn't fall in line with their opinion. They have nothing better to do with their time than to argue, bicker, and criticize, no matter what you do. Being a movie fan isn't a one size fits all hobby. It's an easy concept to grasp and understand, but that's not the case for everyone, unfortunately. Thanks, Heath! God bless and stay safe!
As a huge horror fan I'm really disappointed on people from this realm who won't ever check out super old movies or foreign stuff. I mean those things are horror too
I understand exactly what you are talking about Heath. I don’t understand the “collectors.” I get criticized for owning physical media still because streaming is now the way to go. I love the movie so I want to own the physical copy. But what I don’t understand is placing it behind glass like a museum piece?
I mean, we all love physical media for what it offers us, but when we worship the form over the function, aren't we losing the purpose? This video comes out of frustration that thousands of people watch my new release spotlight, then get angry at me when I talk about the movies themselves...if they even see that coverage at all. Most of them don't. The disc is king, and that's backwards.
Over the past couple of years, I feel like I've moved from collector to Cinephile, so this makes a lot of sense to me. Admitedly I used to be the type that would get upset and argue if someone's opinion of a film didn't align with mine. More recently, I've been excited to see someone else passionate about movies; if someone liked a movie, I'm happy they had a fun time and want to talk about it. Maybe they picked up on something I missed etc. You're spot on; someone else's opinion does not change my personal experience. It can be tough to see that sometimes, but when you do, it makes your experience so much better and opens you up to considering movies differently. Thanks for putting out thought-provoking content like this; you're one of the few creators in this space who consistently goes beyond just covering new physical media releases and stops to challenge us as movie fans\cinephiles.
Group think is dangerous, and yet group think is being pushed down our throats more than ever. That whole "one of us" thing...it's funny to joke about it, but it's really killing individuality. We shouldn't feel compelled to agree all the time, and we also shouldn't see disagreement as some kind of war for survival. Thanks for your comment!
Cinephile is way better than the 4k gate keepers trashing your blurays and dvds. Like, dude, i know 4K is better, but not everyone has deep pockets, and i just want to own the movie.
Yes, discs are simply the delivery system. It must be frustrating that 5-10k people will show up to watch videos where you hold up Blu-ray cases to the camera, but only the same 1k people are tuning in to hear you actually talk about the movies you're watching on a weekly basis. Film criticism online and in print is dying for a variety of reasons, but in my experience, it's because the average person doesn't like cinema that much. They want to listen to someone who sounds like a regular guy like Chris Stuckmann or Jeremy Jahns, who have no formal education in film studies or frankly much interest in cinema before 1980, and with similar taste (which is fine) but won't challenge them too much. It's a kind of perspective on art that can be seen everywhere now.
I'm with you about this. I have friends who are 'movie lovers' but they never want to discuss ideas, themes, etc. They just either like it or not. And they refuse to see many highly regarded films, but can't give a reason ("I just don't want to see that one"). When I try to discuss he says 'It's just a story. Why does it have to have a point?" 🥴
The new thing I notice is serious movies, or movies that aren't the equivalent of a potato chip, get called "pretentious." Anything that isn't loaded with fan service is now "pretentious." This is the effect of 15 years of garbage movies that only exist as products and were made by executives in a board room.
@@CerealAtMidnight- This has been going on for a long while. I remember working in Le Video rental shop back in 2004 - people would come to the new release isle (not everyone, of course, but many, many, many) & they’d pickup an interesting movie - perhaps one they had heard was supposed to be “really good” & then they’d eventually put it back saying something like “maybe next time, it’s too heavy for tonight” & then go with the latest vapid romcom or whatever. Boy, though, I miss those days - since Netflix deliveries & then streaming put the best rental store in a SF out of business, followed by the superhero boom - I look back fondly on a time when there were diverse options & people toyed with staff recommendations.
I’ve been called a snob and movie elitist in the past just because I don’t like a lot of mainstream IP movies. I’m not opposed to “candy bar” movies but there has to be more variety. We can’t survive just on candy bars. I’m just happy that in the last few years we got Babylon, Kinds of Kindness, Beau is Afraid, The Substance and many other anti-mainstream stuff because it’s always more interesting.
It is. I don't even like all of those movies you mentioned, but it is definitely good to have adventurous, boundary-pushing movies from out of left field in the theater next to TENTPOLE BLOCKBUSTER 2: THE SEQUEL. I saw all four of those movies on their opening weekends and I don't regret seeing any of them, despite only "liking" 2 and a half of them. I do regret seeing THE RISE OF SKYWALKER though. Poorly-written, idiotic, crowd-driven trash is still trash. Against my better judgement, I saw the second Transformers movie in the theater. Regret. I haven't seen a Transformers movie since, except for BUMBLEBEE, which I actually liked. Same with the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. I stopped at 2. The second was bloated trash. I stopped Shrekking after 3, despite not really liking 2. Interesting stories, interesting writing, inventive cinematography, great acting, expert direction...these all make for more interesting movies than just IP release after IP release, and I speak as a guy who sees every MCU and 007 movie on opening weekend. Variety. That is where it's at. I apologize for rambling.
I have seen people like that. Mostly in online forms I think other people assume all cinephiles think they are above everyone and that’s not true. It’s like a small minority of people making the rest look bad. But we should all be free to express our opinions
I friggin' love hearing your passionate opinions like this. Makes me wanna jump into the video just to keep the conversation going. Keep up the good work!
I’m cinefile collector. The film or tv series is the art form I care for not the medium it’s recorded on. I collect movies 🎥 and tv series I enjoy and love having based on what they are. Yes I collect on the best format available and what I can afford. Film or tv reviewers input is important but if I like something a reviewer does not while I acknowledge what they’ve written but it’s not required we all agree. I enjoy watching your channel because even if I do not agree you make me think and that’s very important. Art of any type should make you think, should challenge you. Thank you Heath for what you do same importantly what you say. You’re an important source for cinematic and television arts information and influence.
I'm a cinephile, and proud of it! Personally, I have never experienced anything negative about that term. As a cinephile ánd filmmaker I talk to lots of people about film, all the time. I have some friends who are true cinephiles as well. But most people I know are movie lovers, which is totally fine. But, a cinephile is something else fundamentally. It's a combination between love for cinema, and knowledge of cinema. And with that I mean world cinema history (1895-2024). Films from all over the world, from every time frame. Every significant genre, subgenre or specific wave. The more snobby term would be 'cinema connaisseur', which is correct, but perhaps feels a little too pretentious. I'm a collector as well. Collecting is all about my love for films and cinema history. My passion for the experience and the (personal) expression of film as an art, through watching films. Or film as entertainment. Or film as escapism. For me, it's all about aesthetic and meaning. Emotions. Thoughts and ideas. Our individual perceptions and senses, in relation to our idiosyncratic affinities. But, what I wanted to say is this... Heath, don't ever let any abstract/unknown 'viewer' have a negative effect on you, about the fact that you're a cinephile, or about using that term. It's their misinterpretation, and their judgement, and therefore their problem. A negativity, often rooted in lack of knowledge about the world of cinema. You're a true cinephile. Be proud! (I know you are) Cinephiles are special people. They have the love, passion and ability to live for dreams, believe in beauty and style, and possess the openess to be touched and inspired by art; by personal expression. Cinephiles are per definition knowledgeable and intelligent, and masters in analyzing film on a profound level, which makes them more developed concerning matters of life itself. They're great people. Anyway, these are my two cents in this particular discussion. Keep up the good work, Heath! Greetings from The Netherlands.
Keep doing what you're doing. You're loving movies and sharing that love in a constructive and creative manner. *That* counts for a lot. I tip my hat to you, Mr. Cinephile.
Keep doing what you do as a movie lover/cinephile! Reviews of old and new films you've seen on theaters, on disc or streaming. Written or video. There's never too much real thoughts about movies from people you want to listen/read. That is timeless 👍
Hey Heath! - Levi (LL) here again. Just wanna echo the sentiment that these unscripted vids are your most valuable content contributions beside interviews. The unboxings are a useful service & no doubt a necessary part of your channel’s success, but conversations are where it’s at. As I’ve said before, I’ve got a couple of years on you (b.’75) & have a similar trajectory with collecting physical media, but I think my family b/ground was very different. I grew up in a poor, but permissive household in the UK. The way I was able to connect to my dad, who was not an emotionally articulate man, was through sitting together & watching movies - anything that was on when we just had a telly with three, then four, channels - a lot of westerns, war movies, & mysteries in those days - & later with a VHS player, martial arts movies with my granny, & horror films with my dad. Lots of memories. Today, I live in CA with my American wife & since we recently moved, I’ve been able to dedicate a room to my movie library. I worked in a video shop for years (Le Video in SF - now closed), & it’s been great to try to build a mini-recreation at home. Still go to the theater most weekends with AMC membership. Saw THE SUBSTANCE & MEGALOPOLIS last - enjoyed them both, but want to watch MEGA again. Still gotta catch FOLIE A DEUX…
Some good points. I love the movies and it’s cool when they come in nice packages but I really just want to have the movies to watch so when they get “fixed”, modified, or Artificial intelligenced to the max, I have the original. But I’m not a collector, I just like good movies.
To me the difference between a cinephile and a collector is that a cinephile watches the majority of their collection while a collector allows things to just sit on the shelf for months at a time with the mentality “I’ll get to it at some point in the future”
I know what you mean. Been a serious cinephile and media collector since the early 90's. As a teenager I obsessively read film zines while hunting for bootleg uncut video cassettes. I love film history and the culture around it. I also love a beautifully packaged release but all purchases are still driven by my personal film tastes. I am a cinephile above everything else. I explored steel books 10 years back and that scene clearly had a ton of rich 'collectors' hoovering up overpriced Korean releases they would never open. After a few months I was done with steelbooks and their fans. There's was no deep film knowledge in the community just a weird hunger for overpackaged studio releases. They are collectors.
I agree 100% by this statement! Especially as I prefer proclaiming myself as a Cinephile the same way as you Heath. Considering that up until 2014, when I graduated High School, most of the movies I've seen, especially in both Middle and High School, were astonishing Sports drama films. Which were most prominent growing up from the Late 90s and Early 2000s. They were the most emotionally driven kind of movies I've ever seen up until the mid-2010's. A shame how since that time, we've lost the huge amount of genre variety we used to have in films. Where now everything has to be a big budget tent-pole film. Like your superhero movies and such.
Every now and then when I say I'm a cinephile I get people thinking it is related to another terrible world that ends in "phile". people are uninformed.
Keep up the good work. I understand what you mean when you say you want to stop thinking too much. Consumerism has ruined so many things in this world. Movies especially. I love the deep dive. It helps my movie watching experience. I try to share with others too but there are few people you do care about that level of movie experience. Continue carrying that torch and hopefully others will follow the light.
Heath, I love movies and have been collecting since the Beta Max days. I recently was able to get a DVD copy of "The Man Who Laughs" a movie that inspired the comic book character Joker. What a fantastic experience. I Appreciate all your content, I guess I am a Cinephile as well. I worry that more stores are limiting physical media. Walmart has dropped the ball on new releases. I enjoy the hunt and dislike having to buy online. Keep up the good work.
I totally agree with you there. I always felt was cinephile when i was in my midteens as i going to films and mum and dad gave me books on history of the cinema. I'm been buying films since vhs days of mid 80's, now dvd and blu rays. Some people really don't understand term. If cant say anything constructive, not say anything at all.
It is true they do not make thanking man’s movies anymore. They don’t even really make genre movies anymore. It’s either superhero or other hopefully because of people like you that will change. I’m certainly enjoying the ride just recently watched bike riders on your recommendation. Great movie. Thanks for the heads up. Keep up the good work.
I've loved watching films since I was 3, around 65 years ago and collected VHS, laserdisc, DVD and now Blu ray and 4K. You can collect and watch it's all good, Just enjoy both.
You can be whatever you want to be. I'm just tired of a segment of this audience, and the online audience in general, treating me like a villain because I'd rather talk about movies than discs.
I never care about what others may think when they wine and are negative about nothing but an opinion. You're entertaining and informative. Passionate about what you're interested in, and I respect that. You keep being you. That's why I watch what you produce. I buy films i like, or sound interesting. I've even bought disc's on a trusted sources excitement. And have yet to be disappointed. Cinaphile suits me fine! I'm one too. ✌️❤️😃
I would consider myself a cinephile in that I love going to the movies, I love watching movies, I record things from TCM all of the time, I love watching documentaries about filmmaking, etc. My response when people say, "They don't make good movies anymore" or "They only make superhero movies these days" is "You're not paying attention". I've seen 88 movies so far this year. Mostly in theaters, some in streaming. New movies come out every week. They're not paying attention because they don't care. They're NOT cinephiles.
I have nearly 6000 Blu-rays and 4Ks, and a further roughly 2000 DVDs. I've always considered myself a cinephile, the term definitely wasn't dirty 30+ years ago, when I first collected video media. I'm certainly a collector in the sense I want a copy of the movie on my shelf, but I'm not interested in some folded up poster and postcards in a steelbook that add 10 dollars to the price. So I'm not a collector in the sense I care about the "value" of what I own.
I know some people who, for the most part, just watch 1 kind of movie, ie Horror. Which is a multi faceted genre to be sure. Always watched a little bit of everything and don't really see how someone could just have tunnel vision with movies/Tv. Almost an elitist level sometimes. Like LOTR or Harry Potter is such nonsensical crap, but a guy in a mask killing people for 10 movies is fine. I love Horror movies, even been on a few podcasts, but that mindset is kinda sad to me. Not allowing yourself to experience things almost outta spite, goes against what movies are to me which is entertainment and a release from the day to day
The "I only watch horror" crowd befuddles me. So you exist only on a steady diet of murder and violence? You only want to see people killed in the most horrible of ways? I know it's complicated, since many of these people were hurt themselves, but it's a cycle of trauma with no end.
@CerealAtMidnight really top of mind this time of year. Yeah, I watch a ton of horror, but then I have to cleanse the palette with some eps of Tho Office or something. I'm way desensitized to most horror, but I still need to switch it up
I'm guilty of what you talked about @5:00. Specifically on one of your videos when you were critical of certain Batman films. With some reflection I want to say that you are right. I was being shitty as a defensive mechanism. Just want to apologize for that I wish i had the strength to just completely abandon social media. We would all be alot happier not knowing everyones opinion on everything...
By contrast, I grew up inundated and surrounded by movies, but it wasn’t until I was a teenager when I learned how to be a cinephile. Listen, it’s not a bad word or label, it’s something you EARN and separates you from the people who watch movies rather than study and absorb them. Neither approach is really wrong though, both involve being inspired by film. I myself happen to get more inspiration by cinephiling, but not everyone needs to do it that way. No one should disparage either method though either.
I like a candy bar as much as the next person but in general I prefer to get my teeth in to something more nourishing, challenging and interesting, whether that's real ale, books or films. I'll watch something from the MCU but I'm never going to own it. I buy films that release their goodness with repeated viewings.
I am definitely a cinephile. Cinema fascinates me. It has since I was a kid. Superman the movie did this to me. I think that are a handful of Superhero films that we can genuinely call good Cinema. But I also love Seven Samurai and Citizen Kane and Humphrey Bogart movies and musicals, and Si Fi, and Westerns, and comedy films, if they're clever and not just crass and pervy. I do not like horror movies. Being afraid is not fun for me.
I mean hey, even if you’re a foodie and only eat candy bars, you might eat all of the candy bars out there, can distinct all types of chocolate, can describe chocolate in a million more ways than most, so really, that IS a foodie. And that’s a beautiful thing. Anybody who loves moves is a cinephile at the end of the day, when you think about it. Even the times where I’ve strongly disagreed with one of your takes or strongly agreed, it was always because our agree love of film.
Here's the way i feel about it - all people with large collections of (horders) titles had a lot of discs that they will never watch again, they may have been interesting titles that will peak your intrest but a lot of times they just don't come up to your expectations. Had a large collections of over 10,000 LD''s, dvd & blu rays and due to a recent move I let about 75% of them go I will just never look at them again, some were kept for resale value but for the most part the were just taking up space. It's nice to keep everything but it get's to be too much after collection for over 40 years. I know from your video's that you get a lot of titles for revue but it is impossible to look at them, there isn't enought time in a week to view all of them and you have to make a decision on what is worth keeping and not. But simply you have to draw the line.
Maybe you’ve accidentally cultivated the wrong audience of collectors instead of lovers of cinema / art. Personally I’m here for your love of classic noir and cinema in general. 🙏🏽
Cinephile is correct but some of my friends use the term movie buff and say things like who else watches 3 or 4 movies every Saturday. Collecting film for me is a very personal thing. I watch and shelve them the same way others read and shelve books. I "curate" what I want to keep. Sure I do love a nice slip cover or steelbook as they do look pretty but I don't relate to those who speculate or those who label collect without regard to the film.
No, I don't care. I watch DVDs, Blu-ray, 4Ks, streaming, and VHS rips people put on TH-cam. Great video quality is always nice, but most of movie and television history is going to be in standard definition.
The backlash towards being a cinephile is very frustrating when you consider there are few barriers to watching "artsy" or classic or independent films compared to regular mainstream movies. In using your "foodie" analogy, I could understand somebody being angry over the idea that you can only have great food at a Michelin Star restaurant, or pay extremely high prices for designer fashion, etc. But you can see classic and artistic films at local independant cinemas for the same price as a blockbuster movie ticket at your nearby cineplex. You can also borrow films or even stream then from local libraries for free. The barrier to entry to this vast world of film history we can access right now is so low I can't imagine being mad about it.
First off, sounds like you have some really bizarre trolls. Cinephile is a great word to describe what we love, and not at all exclusionary. We love when people join our ranks.
I look at movies and television shows in two ways. Do I want to watch it just once or do I want to watch it and own it? When it comes to certain genres I only watch them once and don't have a desire to own it. For me that usually is westerns, noirs, comedy's, and drama. So I guess I am a cinephile for watching movies but at the same time for collecting I'm not.
'Cinephile' strikes me as the correct word for how you see your movie-watching point of view, and, unlike others on this thread, I see no reason to change it just to appeal to anyone else's sensibilities, much like opinions on the movies themselves. I wonder how much of the blowback to the word 'Cinephile' is related to the blowback received by the Scorceses and Todd Phillipses (Scorsesi? Phillipsi?) of moviedom, who have been openly critical about particular franchises. Granted, that might be considered something of a stretch, but my rimshot response (and ...
You're on it, Malvito. We've seen a turn over the last few years where franchise films have become EVERYTHING to an entire generation and when people speak out against them, they become the enemy. Millions of people want a candy bar and view the four course meal as a threat...or to be more psychological, they view those who want something else from movies to be "the other" and not part of their tribe--hence, then enemy.
You likely didn't intend for it to sound this way, but the first part of the video sort of implies that the only people who would care to get a limited edition version of something are those who want to make sure they can sell it for a profit down the line. I just like owning fun editions of the movies I'm into. There are plenty of people in the middle who enjoy both the packaging and the movies, yet this constant argument of you can only care about one or the other marches on.
I am an academically inclined Classic film fan from 1890 past the 1950s this includes films made under murderous dictatorships like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and our own country.
It is so ironic that this is the video you chose to make right after releasing your 'Joker: Folie A Deux' review. You really, really need to watch those movies again.
I'm not sure what you're saying, but this video was recorded before Joker. It could apply to MANY movies this year: Horizon, Megalopolis, Joker, to name just a few. Anytime I go against what the influencers who didn't even watch these movies think, they tell me I'm being pretentious. Groupthink. Outrage for clicks.
@@CerealAtMidnight Oh? I didn't know this was recorded before Joker. Please don't take this like I'm being abrasive, it's quite the opposite. The reason I commented is because I too consider myself to be a cinephile for all the reasons you stated in your video. I watched your video on Joker 2 and left a comment there too. My intent there is all explained. I saw Joker 2 and absolutely loved it. I think for you to watch it again, from the perspective of a true cinephile, (which I absolutely believe you are), you would have more of an appreciation for what it's trying to say. Please read the comment I left for you for Joker 2, as I truly believe that it, and the 1st Joker movie have a lot to say about exactly what you're discussing in THIS video. By the way, I loved 'Horizon' as well! The 4K is on the shelf. I'm one of the good guys here. :)
Thanks, Rick. The sad thing is, this video could go up any week and be relevant. The events described are happening non-stop, with every new movie that comes out. Someone is always mad at me because I like something either too much or too little. The outrage is endless.
@@CerealAtMidnight No outrage here, just a fellow cinephile corresponding with another cinephile. I'm just trying to impart with you what I truly believe to be the reasoning and meaning of both 'Joker' movies. I think I have them both figured out, and you're the only TH-camr who seems to be pretty much in line with my thinking. I not even a guy who makes comments on TH-cam videos. I mean, I've done it sporadically here and there, but not like this. It's kind of a 'kindred spirit' type of thing, I guess.
Lately, I've been annoyed with physical media fans being weirdly smug about owning discs when media is leaving a streaming service. Trying to explain to someone that most people are not devastated that Indiana Jones films going from Disney+ to Paramount+ feels like having to explain human emotions to children. Nobody used to care when TNT didn't air Star Wars outside of the Star Wars marathons in the 2000s.
There is nothing wrong with loving movies and also taking care of your collection. Paying attention to value, doesn't mean you aren't a movie lover. I avoid the term "phile" when it comes to anything. Most people that claim to be a "phile" are typically judgemental and obnoxious and its just born out of their own insecurities. My dislike of it is not defensive. I don't really care what people think of me or what I like. Love you man, but disagree with this take.
It's not a "take," it's me telling you that I prioritize movies over discs. If you think that's obnoxious and judgmental, then so be it. Not everything is good. Not everyone is a cinephile, and buying movies on Blu-ray doesn't make someone a movie fan.
Just call yourself a 'movie nerd' and you probably won't get that much, if any, opposition. Movie and nerd are two english terms that are very common in the contemporary US. Where as Cinephile is a combination of two greek words: κίνημα (movement) and γράφειν (display, drawing). These can come across as very pretentious. I mean do you know anybody that says: 'I'll go to the cinema tonight.'? I'm not a native english speaker so I'm not entirely familiar with the terms. But how do you call someone who is really into music or books? Is a book nerd a 'Librophile'?
I'm gonna get opposition with anything I do, but I like cinephile. I like the word cinema. I like silent movies, and things way, way, way off the beaten path, and I think cinephile encapsulates a lot of that.
People are dumb. You can choose not to be. That's about all there is to it. A thinking man will never have the pleasure nor the burden of being cast among the majority.
I have always hated the word collection. Personally, I do not have a collection of books, tapes, records, cds, Blurays and DVDs.. I have a library of creative art.
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I've been a cinephile since the 1970s and it's a lonely state of being. I remember meeting a young lady co-worker at my second big job in the 1980s and she starts talking about Wim Wenders and Yasujiro Ozu and I'm like, "Wait, what?! You know about them?" and it was like the first time in my life I'd ever met anyone who knew what I was talking about. No, we didn't marry, lol, as I was already engaged, but it just illustrates how outside the mainstream it is to go deeply into the international and classic and indie cinema and love it so much yet have absolutely nobody to share it with. Cereal at Midnight is a good place to vent.
Personally, I'd like to see more of these unscripted videos. It's something that's refreshing and different from the typical content that I'm accustomed to, which isnt a bad thing. Whether someone is a cinephile, movie enthusiast, movie buff, moviegoer, or collector, it's all the same thing. At the end of the day, all of those people, regardless of what they call themselves, they have a passion and love for movies and cinema. We're all part of a massive community that enjoys watching films. That's the important thing. Otherwise, thanks, Heath! As always, I appreciate the hard work, dedication, and passion! Keep it up! God bless and stay safe!
If a cinephile, movie enthusiast, movie buff, moviegoer, or collector are all the same thing, then why the anger and outrage, which is why I made this video? I'm tired of being told that I'm pretentious when I don't like something others do or do like something others don't. I'm tired of being told that I'm a "true fan" because I have a large collection. When I asked my viewers a month or two ago "where are the cinephiles", a huge portion of them expressed a total hatred for modern movies. If we all love movies, then why is there a vocal group that's trying to sink movies that don't fit with what they want? Why are influencers encouraging review bombing of movies on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb? Why do my physical media videos get 5 or even 10 times the views that my interviews with creators and industry professionals get? I appreciate your comment and it's not my intention to argue, but I do not think we're all fans. I think there are people in this online space that HATE most movies.
@CerealAtMidnight Why the hate and outrage? It's the society that we are living in, unfortunately. Sure, there are a lot of people out there who genuinely love movies. However, at the same time, there are a lot of people who will show anger and outrage because your opinion doesn't fall in line with their opinion. They have nothing better to do with their time than to argue, bicker, and criticize, no matter what you do. Being a movie fan isn't a one size fits all hobby. It's an easy concept to grasp and understand, but that's not the case for everyone, unfortunately. Thanks, Heath! God bless and stay safe!
As a huge horror fan I'm really disappointed on people from this realm who won't ever check out super old movies or foreign stuff. I mean those things are horror too
I understand exactly what you are talking about Heath. I don’t understand the “collectors.” I get criticized for owning physical media still because streaming is now the way to go. I love the movie so I want to own the physical copy. But what I don’t understand is placing it behind glass like a museum piece?
I mean, we all love physical media for what it offers us, but when we worship the form over the function, aren't we losing the purpose? This video comes out of frustration that thousands of people watch my new release spotlight, then get angry at me when I talk about the movies themselves...if they even see that coverage at all. Most of them don't. The disc is king, and that's backwards.
If it’s Autographed or is a Foreign issued Disc then it gets a pass for it to be behind glass.
Over the past couple of years, I feel like I've moved from collector to Cinephile, so this makes a lot of sense to me. Admitedly I used to be the type that would get upset and argue if someone's opinion of a film didn't align with mine. More recently, I've been excited to see someone else passionate about movies; if someone liked a movie, I'm happy they had a fun time and want to talk about it. Maybe they picked up on something I missed etc. You're spot on; someone else's opinion does not change my personal experience. It can be tough to see that sometimes, but when you do, it makes your experience so much better and opens you up to considering movies differently. Thanks for putting out thought-provoking content like this; you're one of the few creators in this space who consistently goes beyond just covering new physical media releases and stops to challenge us as movie fans\cinephiles.
Group think is dangerous, and yet group think is being pushed down our throats more than ever. That whole "one of us" thing...it's funny to joke about it, but it's really killing individuality. We shouldn't feel compelled to agree all the time, and we also shouldn't see disagreement as some kind of war for survival. Thanks for your comment!
Cinephile is way better than the 4k gate keepers trashing your blurays and dvds. Like, dude, i know 4K is better, but not everyone has deep pockets, and i just want to own the movie.
I agree. I would also add that, since only about 1,500 films are available on 4K, you're limiting your own choice by sticking to one format.
Also bluray is absolutely fine. Nothing to complain about
Yes, discs are simply the delivery system. It must be frustrating that 5-10k people will show up to watch videos where you hold up Blu-ray cases to the camera, but only the same 1k people are tuning in to hear you actually talk about the movies you're watching on a weekly basis. Film criticism online and in print is dying for a variety of reasons, but in my experience, it's because the average person doesn't like cinema that much. They want to listen to someone who sounds like a regular guy like Chris Stuckmann or Jeremy Jahns, who have no formal education in film studies or frankly much interest in cinema before 1980, and with similar taste (which is fine) but won't challenge them too much. It's a kind of perspective on art that can be seen everywhere now.
This is it, exactly.
I'm with you about this. I have friends who are 'movie lovers' but they never want to discuss ideas, themes, etc. They just either like it or not. And they refuse to see many highly regarded films, but can't give a reason ("I just don't want to see that one"). When I try to discuss he says 'It's just a story. Why does it have to have a point?" 🥴
The new thing I notice is serious movies, or movies that aren't the equivalent of a potato chip, get called "pretentious." Anything that isn't loaded with fan service is now "pretentious." This is the effect of 15 years of garbage movies that only exist as products and were made by executives in a board room.
@@CerealAtMidnight True, I've run across that a lot. Anything they don't understand in two minutes is 'pretentious'
@@CerealAtMidnight- This has been going on for a long while. I remember working in Le Video rental shop back in 2004 - people would come to the new release isle (not everyone, of course, but many, many, many) & they’d pickup an interesting movie - perhaps one they had heard was supposed to be “really good” & then they’d eventually put it back saying something like “maybe next time, it’s too heavy for tonight” & then go with the latest vapid romcom or whatever. Boy, though, I miss those days - since Netflix deliveries & then streaming put the best rental store in a SF out of business, followed by the superhero boom - I look back fondly on a time when there were diverse options & people toyed with staff recommendations.
I’ve been called a snob and movie elitist in the past just because I don’t like a lot of mainstream IP movies. I’m not opposed to “candy bar” movies but there has to be more variety. We can’t survive just on candy bars.
I’m just happy that in the last few years we got Babylon, Kinds of Kindness, Beau is Afraid, The Substance and many other anti-mainstream stuff because it’s always more interesting.
That leads to an obesity crisis - fat heads, mainly.
It is. I don't even like all of those movies you mentioned, but it is definitely good to have adventurous, boundary-pushing movies from out of left field in the theater next to TENTPOLE BLOCKBUSTER 2: THE SEQUEL. I saw all four of those movies on their opening weekends and I don't regret seeing any of them, despite only "liking" 2 and a half of them. I do regret seeing THE RISE OF SKYWALKER though. Poorly-written, idiotic, crowd-driven trash is still trash. Against my better judgement, I saw the second Transformers movie in the theater. Regret. I haven't seen a Transformers movie since, except for BUMBLEBEE, which I actually liked. Same with the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. I stopped at 2. The second was bloated trash. I stopped Shrekking after 3, despite not really liking 2. Interesting stories, interesting writing, inventive cinematography, great acting, expert direction...these all make for more interesting movies than just IP release after IP release, and I speak as a guy who sees every MCU and 007 movie on opening weekend. Variety. That is where it's at. I apologize for rambling.
I have seen people like that. Mostly in online forms I think other people assume all cinephiles think they are above everyone and that’s not true. It’s like a small minority of people making the rest look bad. But we should all be free to express our opinions
I friggin' love hearing your passionate opinions like this. Makes me wanna jump into the video just to keep the conversation going.
Keep up the good work!
Love how you express just loving movies and not being about the materialism. Awesome video I love this kind of conversation
I’m cinefile collector. The film or tv series is the art form I care for not the medium it’s recorded on. I collect movies 🎥 and tv series I enjoy and love having based on what they are. Yes I collect on the best format available and what I can afford. Film or tv reviewers input is important but if I like something a reviewer does not while I acknowledge what they’ve written but it’s not required we all agree. I enjoy watching your channel because even if I do not agree you make me think and that’s very important. Art of any type should make you think, should challenge you. Thank you Heath for what you do same importantly what you say. You’re an important source for cinematic and television arts information and influence.
I'm a cinephile, and proud of it! Personally, I have never experienced anything negative about that term. As a cinephile ánd filmmaker I talk to lots of people about film, all the time. I have some friends who are true cinephiles as well. But most people I know are movie lovers, which is totally fine. But, a cinephile is something else fundamentally. It's a combination between love for cinema, and knowledge of cinema. And with that I mean world cinema history (1895-2024). Films from all over the world, from every time frame. Every significant genre, subgenre or specific wave. The more snobby term would be 'cinema connaisseur', which is correct, but perhaps feels a little too pretentious. I'm a collector as well. Collecting is all about my love for films and cinema history. My passion for the experience and the (personal) expression of film as an art, through watching films. Or film as entertainment. Or film as escapism. For me, it's all about aesthetic and meaning. Emotions. Thoughts and ideas. Our individual perceptions and senses, in relation to our idiosyncratic affinities. But, what I wanted to say is this... Heath, don't ever let any abstract/unknown 'viewer' have a negative effect on you, about the fact that you're a cinephile, or about using that term. It's their misinterpretation, and their judgement, and therefore their problem. A negativity, often rooted in lack of knowledge about the world of cinema. You're a true cinephile. Be proud! (I know you are) Cinephiles are special people. They have the love, passion and ability to live for dreams, believe in beauty and style, and possess the openess to be touched and inspired by art; by personal expression. Cinephiles are per definition knowledgeable and intelligent, and masters in analyzing film on a profound level, which makes them more developed concerning matters of life itself. They're great people. Anyway, these are my two cents in this particular discussion. Keep up the good work, Heath! Greetings from The Netherlands.
Keep doing what you're doing. You're loving movies and sharing that love in a constructive and creative manner. *That* counts for a lot. I tip my hat to you, Mr. Cinephile.
Keep doing what you do as a movie lover/cinephile! Reviews of old and new films you've seen on theaters, on disc or streaming. Written or video. There's never too much real thoughts about movies from people you want to listen/read. That is timeless 👍
Hey Heath! - Levi (LL) here again. Just wanna echo the sentiment that these unscripted vids are your most valuable content contributions beside interviews. The unboxings are a useful service & no doubt a necessary part of your channel’s success, but conversations are where it’s at. As I’ve said before, I’ve got a couple of years on you (b.’75) & have a similar trajectory with collecting physical media, but I think my family b/ground was very different. I grew up in a poor, but permissive household in the UK. The way I was able to connect to my dad, who was not an emotionally articulate man, was through sitting together & watching movies - anything that was on when we just had a telly with three, then four, channels - a lot of westerns, war movies, & mysteries in those days - & later with a VHS player, martial arts movies with my granny, & horror films with my dad. Lots of memories. Today, I live in CA with my American wife & since we recently moved, I’ve been able to dedicate a room to my movie library. I worked in a video shop for years (Le Video in SF - now closed), & it’s been great to try to build a mini-recreation at home. Still go to the theater most weekends with AMC membership. Saw THE SUBSTANCE & MEGALOPOLIS last - enjoyed them both, but want to watch MEGA again. Still gotta catch FOLIE A DEUX…
I completely agree with you. A healthy diet is a diverse diet!
Some good points. I love the movies and it’s cool when they come in nice packages but I really just want to have the movies to watch so when they get “fixed”, modified, or Artificial intelligenced to the max, I have the original. But I’m not a collector, I just like good movies.
I always enjoy watching your reviews. I’ll never understand why someone would feel attacked because your opinion on a movie differed from theirs.
Group think, man. It was bad when the geeks first inherited the earth back in the 00s, but now it's even worse.
To me the difference between a cinephile and a collector is that a cinephile watches the majority of their collection while a collector allows things to just sit on the shelf for months at a time with the mentality “I’ll get to it at some point in the future”
I know what you mean. Been a serious cinephile and media collector since the early 90's. As a teenager I obsessively read film zines while hunting for bootleg uncut video cassettes. I love film history and the culture around it. I also love a beautifully packaged release but all purchases are still driven by my personal film tastes. I am a cinephile above everything else.
I explored steel books 10 years back and that scene clearly had a ton of rich 'collectors' hoovering up overpriced Korean releases they would never open. After a few months I was done with steelbooks and their fans. There's was no deep film knowledge in the community just a weird hunger for overpackaged studio releases. They are collectors.
I agree 100% by this statement! Especially as I prefer proclaiming myself as a Cinephile the same way as you Heath. Considering that up until 2014, when I graduated High School, most of the movies I've seen, especially in both Middle and High School, were astonishing Sports drama films. Which were most prominent growing up from the Late 90s and Early 2000s. They were the most emotionally driven kind of movies I've ever seen up until the mid-2010's. A shame how since that time, we've lost the huge amount of genre variety we used to have in films. Where now everything has to be a big budget tent-pole film. Like your superhero movies and such.
Enjoy the exploration! We have definitely lost a certain kind of movie, and I'm glad others can see that, too.
Every now and then when I say I'm a cinephile I get people thinking it is related to another terrible world that ends in "phile". people are uninformed.
I agree.. " we are not alone" ;-)
Keep up the good work. I understand what you mean when you say you want to stop thinking too much. Consumerism has ruined so many things in this world. Movies especially. I love the deep dive. It helps my movie watching experience. I try to share with others too but there are few people you do care about that level of movie experience. Continue carrying that torch and hopefully others will follow the light.
Heath, I love movies and have been collecting since the Beta Max days. I recently was able to get a DVD copy of "The Man Who Laughs" a movie that inspired the comic book character Joker. What a fantastic experience. I Appreciate all your content, I guess I am a Cinephile as well. I worry that more stores are limiting physical media. Walmart has dropped the ball on new releases. I enjoy the hunt and dislike having to buy online. Keep up the good work.
I prefer the term "film enthusiast" cause i dont bang my movie collection
I totally agree with you there. I always felt was cinephile when i was in my midteens as i going to films and mum and dad gave me books on history of the cinema. I'm been buying films since vhs days of mid 80's, now dvd and blu rays. Some people really don't understand term. If cant say anything constructive, not say anything at all.
I'm a cinephile.
Love your channel bro. Subed.
It is true they do not make thanking man’s movies anymore. They don’t even really make genre movies anymore. It’s either superhero or other hopefully because of people like you that will change. I’m certainly enjoying the ride just recently watched bike riders on your recommendation. Great movie. Thanks for the heads up. Keep up the good work.
I've loved watching films since I was 3, around 65 years ago and collected VHS, laserdisc, DVD and now Blu ray and 4K. You can collect and watch it's all good, Just enjoy both.
But I want to be a cinephile and an audiophile. But I also want to be a technophile.
You can be whatever you want to be. I'm just tired of a segment of this audience, and the online audience in general, treating me like a villain because I'd rather talk about movies than discs.
I never care about what others may think when they wine and are negative about nothing but an opinion. You're entertaining and informative. Passionate about what you're interested in, and I respect that. You keep being you. That's why I watch what you produce. I buy films i like, or sound interesting. I've even bought disc's on a trusted sources excitement. And have yet to be disappointed. Cinaphile suits me fine! I'm one too.
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I'm a Cinephile and I approve this message, but even if I didn't, THAT'S MY PROBLEM NOT YOURS!! 😉
Right on!
It's a title. That's given to you, never earned
I would consider myself a cinephile in that I love going to the movies, I love watching movies, I record things from TCM all of the time, I love watching documentaries about filmmaking, etc. My response when people say, "They don't make good movies anymore" or "They only make superhero movies these days" is "You're not paying attention". I've seen 88 movies so far this year. Mostly in theaters, some in streaming. New movies come out every week. They're not paying attention because they don't care. They're NOT cinephiles.
Some people like the Nutty Bars, others like Milky Ways. Everyone has their own favorite candy bar.
I miss the thrift store hauls
I have nearly 6000 Blu-rays and 4Ks, and a further roughly 2000 DVDs. I've always considered myself a cinephile, the term definitely wasn't dirty 30+ years ago, when I first collected video media. I'm certainly a collector in the sense I want a copy of the movie on my shelf, but I'm not interested in some folded up poster and postcards in a steelbook that add 10 dollars to the price. So I'm not a collector in the sense I care about the "value" of what I own.
I know some people who, for the most part, just watch 1 kind of movie, ie Horror. Which is a multi faceted genre to be sure. Always watched a little bit of everything and don't really see how someone could just have tunnel vision with movies/Tv. Almost an elitist level sometimes. Like LOTR or Harry Potter is such nonsensical crap, but a guy in a mask killing people for 10 movies is fine. I love Horror movies, even been on a few podcasts, but that mindset is kinda sad to me. Not allowing yourself to experience things almost outta spite, goes against what movies are to me which is entertainment and a release from the day to day
The "I only watch horror" crowd befuddles me. So you exist only on a steady diet of murder and violence? You only want to see people killed in the most horrible of ways? I know it's complicated, since many of these people were hurt themselves, but it's a cycle of trauma with no end.
@CerealAtMidnight really top of mind this time of year. Yeah, I watch a ton of horror, but then I have to cleanse the palette with some eps of Tho Office or something. I'm way desensitized to most horror, but I still need to switch it up
I'm guilty of what you talked about @5:00. Specifically on one of your videos when you were critical of certain Batman films. With some reflection I want to say that you are right. I was being shitty as a defensive mechanism. Just want to apologize for that
I wish i had the strength to just completely abandon social media. We would all be alot happier not knowing everyones opinion on everything...
Another great unscripted episode! Thanks, Heath. LLAP
By contrast, I grew up inundated and surrounded by movies, but it wasn’t until I was a teenager when I learned how to be a cinephile. Listen, it’s not a bad word or label, it’s something you EARN and separates you from the people who watch movies rather than study and absorb them. Neither approach is really wrong though, both involve being inspired by film. I myself happen to get more inspiration by cinephiling, but not everyone needs to do it that way. No one should disparage either method though either.
I like a candy bar as much as the next person but in general I prefer to get my teeth in to something more nourishing, challenging and interesting, whether that's real ale, books or films. I'll watch something from the MCU but I'm never going to own it. I buy films that release their goodness with repeated viewings.
Bless ya Heath, let these mofos know
Enjoyable chat. My wife and I got together to share the cinemaphile lifestyle.
I am definitely a cinephile. Cinema fascinates me. It has since I was a kid. Superman the movie did this to me. I think that are a handful of Superhero films that we can genuinely call good Cinema. But I also love Seven Samurai and Citizen Kane and Humphrey Bogart movies and musicals, and Si Fi, and Westerns, and comedy films, if they're clever and not just crass and pervy. I do not like horror movies. Being afraid is not fun for me.
I mean hey, even if you’re a foodie and only eat candy bars, you might eat all of the candy bars out there, can distinct all types of chocolate, can describe chocolate in a million more ways than most, so really, that IS a foodie. And that’s a beautiful thing. Anybody who loves moves is a cinephile at the end of the day, when you think about it. Even the times where I’ve strongly disagreed with one of your takes or strongly agreed, it was always because our agree love of film.
I’d call that a chocolate connoisseur. Not a foodie.
Here's the way i feel about it - all people with large collections of (horders) titles had a lot of discs that they will never watch again, they may have been interesting titles that will peak your intrest but a lot of times they just don't come up to your expectations. Had a large collections of over 10,000 LD''s, dvd & blu rays and due to a recent move I let about 75% of them go I will just never look at them again, some were kept for resale value but for the most part the were just taking up space. It's nice to keep everything but it get's to be too much after collection for over 40 years. I know from your video's that you get a lot of titles for revue but it is impossible to look at them, there isn't enought time in a week to view all of them and you have to make a decision on what is worth keeping and not. But simply you have to draw the line.
What you call someone who's mindful of people telling other people to be mindful?
Maybe you’ve accidentally cultivated the wrong audience of collectors instead of lovers of cinema / art. Personally I’m here for your love of classic noir and cinema in general. 🙏🏽
Cinephile is correct but some of my friends use the term movie buff and say things like who else watches 3 or 4 movies every Saturday. Collecting film for me is a very personal thing. I watch and shelve them the same way others read and shelve books. I "curate" what I want to keep. Sure I do love a nice slip cover or steelbook as they do look pretty but I don't relate to those who speculate or those who label collect without regard to the film.
Do you care if some movies still in a dvd format instead of bluray or 4k ? I have dilemma to what should I do with all my dvd collection.
No, I don't care. I watch DVDs, Blu-ray, 4Ks, streaming, and VHS rips people put on TH-cam. Great video quality is always nice, but most of movie and television history is going to be in standard definition.
The backlash towards being a cinephile is very frustrating when you consider there are few barriers to watching "artsy" or classic or independent films compared to regular mainstream movies.
In using your "foodie" analogy, I could understand somebody being angry over the idea that you can only have great food at a Michelin Star restaurant, or pay extremely high prices for designer fashion, etc.
But you can see classic and artistic films at local independant cinemas for the same price as a blockbuster movie ticket at your nearby cineplex. You can also borrow films or even stream then from local libraries for free. The barrier to entry to this vast world of film history we can access right now is so low I can't imagine being mad about it.
First off, sounds like you have some really bizarre trolls. Cinephile is a great word to describe what we love, and not at all exclusionary. We love when people join our ranks.
I'm a cinephile and audio phile.
I look at movies and television shows in two ways. Do I want to watch it just once or do I want to watch it and own it? When it comes to certain genres I only watch them once and don't have a desire to own it. For me that usually is westerns, noirs, comedy's, and drama. So I guess I am a cinephile for watching movies but at the same time for collecting I'm not.
I follow your wavelength BUT I strongly dislike the word cinephile. It just sounds gross. I use the term film enthusiast.
A label is just a label. Film enthusiast is just as good! In the end all that matters is our love of the artwork no matter what we call it
Whatever floats your boat and finds your lost remote.
Michael Bolton is a major cinephile.
…was that a micro aggression 😂
'Cinephile' strikes me as the correct word for how you see your movie-watching point of view, and, unlike others on this thread, I see no reason to change it just to appeal to anyone else's sensibilities, much like opinions on the movies themselves.
I wonder how much of the blowback to the word 'Cinephile' is related to the blowback received by the Scorceses and Todd Phillipses (Scorsesi? Phillipsi?) of moviedom, who have been openly critical about particular franchises. Granted, that might be considered something of a stretch, but my rimshot response (and ...
You're on it, Malvito. We've seen a turn over the last few years where franchise films have become EVERYTHING to an entire generation and when people speak out against them, they become the enemy. Millions of people want a candy bar and view the four course meal as a threat...or to be more psychological, they view those who want something else from movies to be "the other" and not part of their tribe--hence, then enemy.
That’s the good C word
You likely didn't intend for it to sound this way, but the first part of the video sort of implies that the only people who would care to get a limited edition version of something are those who want to make sure they can sell it for a profit down the line. I just like owning fun editions of the movies I'm into. There are plenty of people in the middle who enjoy both the packaging and the movies, yet this constant argument of you can only care about one or the other marches on.
I am an academically inclined Classic film fan from 1890 past the 1950s this includes films made under murderous dictatorships like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and our own country.
It is so ironic that this is the video you chose to make right after releasing your 'Joker: Folie A Deux' review. You really, really need to watch those movies again.
I'm not sure what you're saying, but this video was recorded before Joker. It could apply to MANY movies this year: Horizon, Megalopolis, Joker, to name just a few. Anytime I go against what the influencers who didn't even watch these movies think, they tell me I'm being pretentious. Groupthink. Outrage for clicks.
@@CerealAtMidnight Oh? I didn't know this was recorded before Joker. Please don't take this like I'm being abrasive, it's quite the opposite. The reason I commented is because I too consider myself to be a cinephile for all the reasons you stated in your video. I watched your video on Joker 2 and left a comment there too. My intent there is all explained. I saw Joker 2 and absolutely loved it. I think for you to watch it again, from the perspective of a true cinephile, (which I absolutely believe you are), you would have more of an appreciation for what it's trying to say. Please read the comment I left for you for Joker 2, as I truly believe that it, and the 1st Joker movie have a lot to say about exactly what you're discussing in THIS video. By the way, I loved 'Horizon' as well! The 4K is on the shelf. I'm one of the good guys here. :)
Thanks, Rick. The sad thing is, this video could go up any week and be relevant. The events described are happening non-stop, with every new movie that comes out. Someone is always mad at me because I like something either too much or too little. The outrage is endless.
@@CerealAtMidnight No outrage here, just a fellow cinephile corresponding with another cinephile. I'm just trying to impart with you what I truly believe to be the reasoning and meaning of both 'Joker' movies. I think I have them both figured out, and you're the only TH-camr who seems to be pretty much in line with my thinking. I not even a guy who makes comments on TH-cam videos. I mean, I've done it sporadically here and there, but not like this. It's kind of a 'kindred spirit' type of thing, I guess.
Heath are you a cinephile or preservationist? Or both?
Lately, I've been annoyed with physical media fans being weirdly smug about owning discs when media is leaving a streaming service. Trying to explain to someone that most people are not devastated that Indiana Jones films going from Disney+ to Paramount+ feels like having to explain human emotions to children. Nobody used to care when TNT didn't air Star Wars outside of the Star Wars marathons in the 2000s.
There is nothing wrong with loving movies and also taking care of your collection. Paying attention to value, doesn't mean you aren't a movie lover. I avoid the term "phile" when it comes to anything. Most people that claim to be a "phile" are typically judgemental and obnoxious and its just born out of their own insecurities. My dislike of it is not defensive. I don't really care what people think of me or what I like. Love you man, but disagree with this take.
It's not a "take," it's me telling you that I prioritize movies over discs. If you think that's obnoxious and judgmental, then so be it. Not everything is good. Not everyone is a cinephile, and buying movies on Blu-ray doesn't make someone a movie fan.
Just call yourself a 'movie nerd' and you probably won't get that much, if any, opposition. Movie and nerd are two english terms that are very common in the contemporary US.
Where as Cinephile is a combination of two greek words: κίνημα (movement) and γράφειν (display, drawing). These can come across as very pretentious. I mean do you know anybody that says: 'I'll go to the cinema tonight.'?
I'm not a native english speaker so I'm not entirely familiar with the terms. But how do you call someone who is really into music or books? Is a book nerd a 'Librophile'?
I'm gonna get opposition with anything I do, but I like cinephile. I like the word cinema. I like silent movies, and things way, way, way off the beaten path, and I think cinephile encapsulates a lot of that.
Using the term “cinema” instead of say “the movies”, does seem to be common in Britain.
People are dumb. You can choose not to be. That's about all there is to it. A thinking man will never have the pleasure nor the burden of being cast among the majority.
Candybars ha ha ha...ha
It's true. The movies that get the most engagement are junk food--appealing in the moment, but ultimately unsatisfying and quickly forgotten.
I have always hated the word collection. Personally, I do not have a collection of books, tapes, records, cds, Blurays and DVDs.. I have a library of creative art.
Ever heard of uncreative art?
Ugh 😞
@@janrom4153 Ever heard of GFY