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  • There's high school football, and then there's Texas high school football. Oddly enough though, one of the greatest teams in state history has been lost to time and fate. Watch the full 30 for 30 on ESPN+.
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ความคิดเห็น • 136

  • @kingrimjob
    @kingrimjob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Really inspiring how this football team overcame racism to commit nearly two dozen armed robberies.

    • @lastonesleft1428
      @lastonesleft1428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Smh sad ash but at the end of the day god give you a chance to right your wrongs

    • @kavaniawilson860
      @kavaniawilson860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The sad part was from the movie it seemed like they came from middle class families

    • @patricksnavely5850
      @patricksnavely5850 ปีที่แล้ว

      If this movie is accurate, the coach preached non stop about choices. He even told one player there are no rewinds. SMDH😔 Complete idiots.

  • @jongurniak8891
    @jongurniak8891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    “Got some for you too Goldilocks”, while pointing at Billingsley. Without a doubt my favourite line from the carter team in the movie.

    • @jetblach
      @jetblach 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You do know that IN REAL LIFE, these guys had their championship revoked right? Due to a player who was academically ineligible? Oh and six of their former players thought it was a good idea to commit a robbery and ruin their lives and the reputation of the school.
      That's right. If you play for Carter high and scouts from Universities know you play there, you have a target on your back. That's their legacy.

    • @chicken1262
      @chicken1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jetblach you do know the intelligible player thing turned out to be a lie they just took because of the robberies still one of the greatest teams of all time and that's over with a few players from Dallas Carter made it to the pros and live good lives

    • @inthemoment8410
      @inthemoment8410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chicken1262 Permian should have beat them that year. Carters final drive was an incomplete pass that dropped and called a reception. Watch the tape. It was clearly a drop

    • @zippyzipster46
      @zippyzipster46 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chicken1262it wasn’t a lie. It was whitewashed grade fixing. Period. The guy flunked and they took over grade books. Then went thug running with armed robbery and community and school cover ups until they couldn’t cover up anymore. What a joke.

  • @hospice8896
    @hospice8896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Carter was In my district as I attended Bryan Adams High in the mid 90s. This teams culture of dominance still loomed over high school sports and the consequences of these acts still loom over Dallas in a lot of ways. It just makes me sad that the critics got to be right that time. This team was unthinkably talented. Could have dominated many leagues. This documentary will gut you

    • @zippyzipster46
      @zippyzipster46 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grade fixing to win and robberies that were let go when the community knew. All for winning football. What a corrupt community and vicious criminals. Don’t be disillusioned by a left winged documentary.

  • @curtissharpe-gb1mb
    @curtissharpe-gb1mb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the best 30 for 30 stories!! Great team so sad and heartbreaking for Dallas Carter

  • @keithboyd9582
    @keithboyd9582 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I was going to the high school in the next town over from where the high school is. And when all of this happened, our school was suppose to take their place in the state high school playoffs. We found out on a Wednesday night that they were disqualified. The team had to do a quick practice to get ready for their first around game that weekend. The school had to set up everything including the pep rally real fast. Then in the middle of the school day, we all found out that Dallas Carter was reinstated. All of the students did a mass walk out for one hour to demonstrate against this. None of us were surprised when everything went down with them.

    • @deadprez100vs
      @deadprez100vs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! Where you at one of the Grand Prarie schools? I can't remember what school was supposed to replace them.

    • @keithboyd9582
      @keithboyd9582 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@deadprez100vs I was at South Grand Prairie High School that year.

    • @Armando_Brown32
      @Armando_Brown32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Something similar happened to my high school (in ‘98, long before I went there), but was just before the state championship game. The way I’ve had the story told to me is my school lost in the state semifinals. So they spent most of the next week cleaning/putting up all the equipment. Then either late Thurs or early Fri, they get word that the team they lost to in the semifinals (Katy HS) had been DQ’d for playing an ineligible player during their regular season. So the coaches had to scramble to get all of the equipment issued back out to the team, and put together some sort of a practice. Needless to say, Midland Lee kicked their 💩in to the tune of 54-0.

    • @Telmarine55
      @Telmarine55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      San Antonio MacArthur?

    • @Armando_Brown32
      @Armando_Brown32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Telmarine55 yep!

  • @binta31
    @binta31 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    this looks heartbreakenly incredible

    • @Charsi_Escobar
      @Charsi_Escobar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wagnerp1213any stories or anecdotes?

  • @curtisharvey2405
    @curtisharvey2405 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's really a sad and shocking story from start to finish.

    • @ivanohemartin
      @ivanohemartin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Finish is several athletes making the NFL and a tight community making sure no one's left behind. A happy ending.

  • @oeao2841
    @oeao2841 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wanna see this

  • @SI-cd7xs
    @SI-cd7xs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    These guys were the "villain" team in Friday Night Lights btw. Of course, ESPN made a sympathetic documentary about the armed robber state champs in 2017 and blamed their actions on racism

    • @TheOrator7
      @TheOrator7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I'm not sure we watched the same documentary. It didn't blame their actions on "racism" It showed how these kids thought they were invincible due to the hysteria surrounding the team and made some tragically bad choices...REALLY bad choices.
      I personally loved the "villian" role they had in Friday Night Lights and I enjoyed how this documentary showed what was going on with one of the most talented yet ill-fated teams ever in high school football.

    • @historybuff6715
      @historybuff6715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheOrator7 So you didn't hear the fact that they were playing the race card when the kid failed his card? They acted like the Dallas super attendant board had a thing against black people. It was a good doc all in all. But not everything can be blamed on Racism.

    • @zippyzipster46
      @zippyzipster46 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheOrator7are you kidding? They talked of how the armed robber convicts looked like “slaves in chains” and blamed whites for their grade fixing and lies. They cut so much corruption by that community out of the documentary that it proves what the left really is about. Stoking race flames to deflect their 50 years of left winged policies with no results. Must be racism from the ether.

    • @raidergainzx5290
      @raidergainzx5290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@historybuff6715 And they sued. Then won right? Won as in they got to play right? The teacher definitley was the "anonymous" tip. Funny thing is Miles made a similar claim about the doctor that said his knee was done. Nobody batted an eye at that...

  • @JoFlirt
    @JoFlirt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    They made the whole team and school pay for the acts of six individuals. The success outweigh what the six did.

    • @DontDrinkthatstuff
      @DontDrinkthatstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They deserved to be stripped. That Carter team arguably shouldn't have been eligible to play. That said the 88 Carter team is still an ATG high school team to this day.

    • @JoFlirt
      @JoFlirt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@DontDrinkthatstuff you don't punish everyone for a few. Race was definitely involved in this especially since they were the first predominantly black school to win a title.

    • @WhatswhatwhatwhT
      @WhatswhatwhatwhT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DontDrinkthatstuff sorry but what does ATG mean ?

    • @DontDrinkthatstuff
      @DontDrinkthatstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WhatswhatwhatwhT All time great

    • @SpyGuysX
      @SpyGuysX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      "being good at a children's ball game is more important than armed robbery." lol
      Race was definitely involved in this in more ways than one

  • @YourFreeBeats
    @YourFreeBeats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As a senior HS in ‘88, living only miles away from Carter High-I lived through this. It’s a great documentary, however the proposed “racism” by some of those interviewed in this piece is beyond incorrect. Anne Williams makes claims of signs being in the stands reading “Hang all Ni**ers”simply did not happen. Saying the arrest of these kids was like “slavery” is a disservice to so society and shows how people truly try to insult your intelligence. Don’t let them succeed.
    On the positive side many of those athletes and parents of display contriteness and complete accountability in this film, which is commendable.
    It just shows that those with an agenda then still hold that agenda. Those who were involved realize, have paid for, and mostly have improved as people. But please, allow reality to be just that. This story has NOTHING to do with racism, so watch this with an open mind and take whatever lessons from it you will. As lessons is what should be learned from this film.

    • @Runningitthroughyou
      @Runningitthroughyou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Odessa was in fact one of the last towns to desegregate 🎪

    • @YourFreeBeats
      @YourFreeBeats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Runningitthroughyou Towns, yes. However many of the accusations from the Dallas school board is ridiculous. I lived though this and that stuff would have been front page news all over the place had it been true. That is my point.

    • @shawnthomas7318
      @shawnthomas7318 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds about white . America was born on violence and racism against black people . We didn't create racism of COLOR or this ATMOSPHERE but guess who did tho 🤔😳

    • @ivanohemartin
      @ivanohemartin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These kids were robbed too, Today they'd have a ton of opportunities to make money legally.

  • @ceciliajlopez8188
    @ceciliajlopez8188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What did the victims lose? They made A choice.

    • @DubBeats
      @DubBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Everybody make mistakes yeah they was stupid for robbing the store but they learn from there mistakes...

    • @nitro2199
      @nitro2199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@DubBeats LMAO. "It was only 21 armed robberies, we all make mistakes!"

    • @shakurleday9205
      @shakurleday9205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wouldn't call robbing people a mistake, it is called a bad and stupid decision.

    • @historybuff6715
      @historybuff6715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they meant the community and what it lost like it’s reputation and the schools

    • @Txmaverick413
      @Txmaverick413 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Robbing people and fixing grades so players can play... Yeah they made mistakes.

  • @FamousFlex
    @FamousFlex 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Second

  • @wagnerp1213
    @wagnerp1213 6 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Am I the only one who remembered them from Friday night lights?

    • @deandreray3500
      @deandreray3500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Vangundy no that’s why their movie was made it had them all wrong

    • @daniellee9328
      @daniellee9328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It depicted armed robbers wrongly lol

    • @kavaniawilson860
      @kavaniawilson860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@deandreray3500 Their movie showed them doing robberies too. From watching their movie I still don’t get the point of getting caught up in robberies. They were going to college and they came from middle class families. It was just stupid

    • @50boii.j57
      @50boii.j57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah

    • @jetblach
      @jetblach 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, their portrayal in the film was inaccurate.
      The armed robbery by six of their players was omitted and news of the revocation of their state title was omitted (due to an a player deemed academically ineligible).
      Woke Hollywood decided not to reveal the whole truth about Carter High.

  • @marc07112
    @marc07112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bruh, none of these kids that were robbing came from broken homes, i was pissed watching this OMG

    • @JazminePaden1012
      @JazminePaden1012 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too I’m like really all of them had scholarships like how are y’all that dumb to throw that away

    • @danilojones1618
      @danilojones1618 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@JazminePaden1012 exactly they claim they didn't want to ask there parents for money why not get a job they had a habit shooting dice..they had the opportunity to do something great to throw it away for some fast money

  • @bizghostwriter8937
    @bizghostwriter8937 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There’s actually a Carter high movie Charles s Dutton was the head coach. Great movie.

    • @jayman3915
      @jayman3915 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did it include the robberies or no ?

    • @AyoPauze
      @AyoPauze 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jayman3915 yes, it includes robberies.

    • @A350Airways
      @A350Airways 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      IIRC the Carter High movie starts with an algebra grade being appealed.

  • @re4477
    @re4477 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great doc! Enjoyed watching this when it came out!

  • @ivanohemartin
    @ivanohemartin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To think that these HS athletes would be earning millions today...Keep your head up!

  • @LeonPachon
    @LeonPachon 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow! A documentary that shows why Permian was in fact the team you root for

  • @BrockPageProductions
    @BrockPageProductions 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great doc

  • @christandaniels571
    @christandaniels571 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The part bout the married women pulling up to the school is what got me trippin'

    • @spyda7591
      @spyda7591 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I played football in high school and we won state 3 years in a row. It happens all the time and more trust me.

    • @jayman3915
      @jayman3915 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol. Surprise no teachers got caught with them. Now it’s a female teacher getting caught every week sleeping with a student

  • @kingbassy4590
    @kingbassy4590 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Going to be a good one!

  • @AyoPauze
    @AyoPauze 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m class of 2024 at DeSoto High School, I was scrolling through yearbooks and saw our score with this exact Carter Team. I was surprised DeSoto even hung with them.

  • @AyoPauze
    @AyoPauze 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My mom graduated from Dallas Carter in 1990, she told me whenever she mentioned Carter at her first few jobs, the people responding to her only knew about the robberies. Sad reputation of her high school.

  • @dcxxxx
    @dcxxxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Stooges got what they deserved. Hopefully they turned their lives around.

    • @DubBeats
      @DubBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Huh they did some still made it too the nfl in some are spokesmen

    • @Od2221
      @Od2221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DubBeats they ones that went to jail didnt make it the nfl they all had full rides but gave it away

    • @robertmitchell8744
      @robertmitchell8744 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you happy that happened to them

    • @shawnthomas7318
      @shawnthomas7318 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds about white . America was born on violence and racism against black people . We didn't create racism of COLOR or this ATMOSPHERE but guess who did tho 🤔😳

  • @skylerhardy1327
    @skylerhardy1327 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This along with carter high will break your heart they didn’t all deserve life sentences

    • @tinabaker4047
      @tinabaker4047 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this is carter high ...

    • @d0narroyo
      @d0narroyo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      they didn't get life sentence, they all served less than 10 years in prison. if they didn't rob like 20 stores they would've went to college and be in the NFL. And if Gary Edwards did his school work they wouldn't strip Carter high of the state championship

    • @skylerhardy1327
      @skylerhardy1327 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      d0narroyo thier original sentences were life sentences thank god they only had to serve 10 years I understand as do they that had committed crimes but they punishment was relentless also due to they fact of a entire city aiding and bedding them to think that they were above the law

    • @JoefromNJ1
      @JoefromNJ1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@skylerhardy1327 they werent life sentences. u might want to go look up what "concurrent" means. and it's not as if they all got drunk or high one night and went out and did something stupid. they committed 21 robberies over 6 months. they all deserved to go to jail.

    • @blacksheep9278
      @blacksheep9278 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tony614 you sound dumb

  • @paigebray5768
    @paigebray5768 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These dudes weren’t “thugs” and “monsters” like the movie claimed them to be. That’s my biggest problem. Everyone is talking about it’s not about race or whatever. But I’m white. And it was predominantly white coaches calling for David w carter high school to not even play in that game. And I mean it was a huge controversy but then the uil reinstates them to play? Makes no sense. Lmao. What about exposing Permian for exploiting these kids for fame. Like all Texas football does. But man, I mean even people in Permian if you look up the interview they did a Brian chavez he even said in his city it was racially devided carter was a middle class community in the late 80s. And times where WAY different then they are now. Why punish the whole team of carter. I mean it protartys ALL OF THEM as thugs. Even in the movie when we were kids. We all thought that they were thugs and nasty monster people.. and in the game you’d see the kids hurting the other players on the team on the movie. That’s my problem

    • @zippyzipster46
      @zippyzipster46 ปีที่แล้ว

      Our run of the mill white leftist stoking the race flames as usual. They were thugs. Armed robbery which involves putting a gun to one’s head qualifies you as such. And not to mention the school and community knew and covered it up as long as they could. Let us not forget the grade fixing and death threats to an honest teacher. His books were burned and doctored. He said as much. The left in this country makes up their own narrative.

    • @darrellstephens1284
      @darrellstephens1284 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you perfect summation. We were not all Thugs and that movie still to this day disgust me how they portrayed my alma mater.

  • @landohudson5864
    @landohudson5864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Comments really judging kids for making mistakes 😂😂

    • @daniellee9328
      @daniellee9328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      21 armed robberies are "mistakes" lol

    • @landohudson5864
      @landohudson5864 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Emontre waters by your definition that could be true but a mistake can also be a making a bad judgment call or falling for peer pressure. Now I’m not condoning what they did in just saying to call them ruthless thugs and say they are worthless is pretty messed up considering how when it’s other people doing things like this or worse they don’t get called those type of things

    • @historybuff6715
      @historybuff6715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@daniellee9328 I mean yeah they ruined there careers. But at least they have owned up for it and changed there lives around. They didn't kill anybody. But they didn't hurt anybody or kill anybody. Not condoning what they did. My point is current nfl players have done much worse things and are still in the NFL.

    • @zippyzipster46
      @zippyzipster46 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow. Hairy legged white liberal girl to the rescue. Over 20 armed robberies aren’t typical, kid mistakes. What a joke you people are. Speeding at 50 mph in a 30 mph zone is a mistake. Holding guns to people’s heads and stealing their labor is not. It’s a thuggish crime. Period.

  • @charlielongley9229
    @charlielongley9229 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    They deserved to be stripped of the title. Not only that but in Friday Night Light when the ball hit the ground. That really happened. Permian got screwed in that game and DC shouldn't have been in the championship game

    • @henryjw15
      @henryjw15 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Charlie Longley wouldn't have mattered Permian would have lost to converse Judson, it's a curse.

    • @charlielongley9229
      @charlielongley9229 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@henryjw15 that's an opinion. Maybe they lose. Maybe they don't. Point is they were screwed of the chamce

    • @keithboyd9582
      @keithboyd9582 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I lived in Grand Prairie during this time and there were some incredible football games during that era in Texas.

    • @marcusjohnsonsr.8336
      @marcusjohnsonsr.8336 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were going to get SMOKED by whoever they were going to play next...

    • @DubBeats
      @DubBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@charlielongley9229 Ask this why you think panther was screw too making too the state In they won in 1989...

  • @jcdova29
    @jcdova29 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At the end it was true what other school districts said. They weren’t very smart. I didn’t think it was fair for the preacher’s son to avoid prison. He was just as guilty but because his dad was a preacher he got off the hook.

  • @traceyjackson3205
    @traceyjackson3205 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    WE AS MY FAMILY WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE THAT SAY THERE GOT DIEASES YALL BOOK IN THE AGE OF YALL TIMES ...!!!???

    • @GreatLake-Blake
      @GreatLake-Blake 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      huh?

    • @Trapher2
      @Trapher2 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What are you trying to say? It feels like English but I am just not sure.

    • @Mjones8383
      @Mjones8383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is why Ebonics shouldn't be allowed!!

    • @shawnthomas7318
      @shawnthomas7318 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Mjones8383: Sounds about white ...