I have a similar tent by zpacks. I may be wrong, but it looks like your tent would pitch better if you lengthened the trekking pole by a few cm after loosening all the guy lines. That would make the tent taughter, and allow more ventilation around the base.
Thanks so much for watching and for your suggestion. You might be right. The first couple of times I had it pretty low, which I changed when I filmed this video, it I should try to make the hiking pole even taller to see if it makes a difference. I never had a tent like this before, so I don’t know what the perfect height is. Hilleberg does give a suggestion, but I didn’t measure it yet when setting up the Mid1. I can’t wait to use it again soon, perhaps in the desert just below the Sierra Nevada mountains. Thanks again for taking the time to write :)
Hi. Excellent video! Does it feel like the bungees hold up the floor tall enough? They look a little floppy and I worry items inside the tent like sleeping bag will collapse the bathtub floor edges and get wet. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! I didn't have any problems with the bathtub floor, even though I had quite a bit of gear in the corners. You can always pull it up with these straps that I show in my video. They hold the floor up OK, but you can't compare it to other tents with a taller edge. If it rains and the water drains well, then it will be no problem. If there is ever standing water that pools around the tent, then the bathtub floor might be problematic, but we just have to consider where we pitch the tent to avoid problems like that. I'm going to test the tent in more severe weather on future trips and will post a follow-up video in situations that truly push it to its limit, so stay tuned for that. Perhaps I change my mind about the floor after some more testing in the rainy season and in really windy conditions :)
THANKS, i can clearly see i would never b happy in that tent😢. i have a ? not related 2 tents...... i dont know what sleep pads u have had over time but, the one in this vid has horizontal baffles, in ur exp is there a sleepng diff from that to vertical baffles ??? i found no Utbube stuff going into this. i ask bcuz i will get a 2nd pad soon to ease the miles on my current Klymit pad wich is a 'v' shaped layout. i really like it but want to try others cuz.... y not 😊. !!! thanks Andrea and ATB !!!!!
Thanks so much for watching and for your comment, Tracy! This tent is definitely not for everyone. It took me some time to get used to the small space and slanted walls. I was very spoiled with my previous tent, which had lots of space. I will still use it when weight is not an issue, for example, when I go canoe camping. Now to your question about the sleeping pad. I never had one with vertical baffles, but it doesn't matter which direction they face. The most important thing is the "R-value." This number will tell you how much heat reflects back at you and how warm you will be. The higher the R-value, the warmer the pad. The one you see me use in this video has a rating of 4.5. My winter sleeping pad by the same company has a rating of 7.3. You can see the rating when you go to their website: alnk.to/eZH42FE Which one were you thinking about buying? Perhaps I can help you determine if it's warm enough or not. The warmth comes from the filling of the sleeping pad. Therm-A-Rest has a reflective material inside that bounces your warmth back at you, and the cold temperature of the ground is reflected away from you. Others have a fiber inside, similar to a sleeping bag. Some really cheap sleeping pads might not have anything inside and would be too cold. Air by itself does not insulate from the cold ground. I hope this helps, but feel free to send me links if you are not sure. I'm happy to help if I can, although I only ever bought Therm-A-Rest sleeping pads so far. :) Cheers, Andrea
I don't know if it's the angle of the camera, or something else, but the tent looks tiny. I looked at it on the Hyperlite website and it gave the dimensions of the length and width, but not the height. What is the height? I know that since it's a single pole tent with what appears to be a lower height, the back wall of the tent slants in too much which means that if you're moving around inside, your head scrapes against it a lot, like it did in the video. Also, I know it's probably because of the soil you're in that you weren't able to get a taught pitch since you had to use rocks. But the pitch of the tent was very loose and flapping around a lot. I would like to add a single pole dyneema tent to my kit, but I think if I do, it will be a Zpacks Altaplex. It has a taller height which allows the back wall to be almost vertical and the bathtub has 8" walls instead of 6" like the Mid 1. Either way though, these are both great ultralight tents that shave off so much weight!
Hi there, thank you for watching my video and for taking the time to comment. The site actually has the height listed at 54.0" | 137.2cm. I didn't measure it myself, though. When I first started using the tent, I didn't pull my trekking pole out far enough, and it was really tight inside. When I extended it more, it seemed a bit better, but perhaps I can try and extend it even further. Although I had to use rocks where I pitched my tent, I still got it as tight as possible. I think the back will always be loose because there is no tent pole supporting it like in most free-standing tents, for instance. It's just the one trekking pole, and the fabric all around it is pulled tight by the corners and the guylines. The attachment points for the guylines stretch, which may also give the impression that it's loose. Since I only had wind during the day, and it was quiet at night, it didn't bother me, but I want to test the tent in all sorts of conditions and will do a follow-up video as soon as I have enough footage. It will be interesting to test in stormy weather. It should hold with 11 attachment points, but time will tell, I guess. The tent you chose also looks really good and is a bit lighter than the Mid 1. If you buy it, I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks again! Cheers, Andrea
Hyperlight spec's the length of pole recommended. My poles was 2" shorter. Never thought it'd be an issue, it was. I cut a jack for the tip of the pole and it's made a big difference in how tight the panels are. I also fit ford to the two back, and two end tie-outs. This two has made a big difference in the interior volume. I'm a big hammocker, and I thought that a tent the size of the Mid 1 would be an issue. It took the pole jack, the additional tie-out cords on the panels, and two nights in it to convince me I like this thing. :>)
@@peterjohnson6273 Thanks so much for watching and for taking the time to comment. I had the same problem with the height at first. My pole was long enough, but I didn't extend it far enough when I first pitched the tent, and it was very loose. The guy lines definitely also make a big difference. How tight do you pull them? I'm still playing with the setup, and I may create a follow-up video after a year or so to update my viewers on what I learned from setting it up many times. Another viewer commented on using a hammock. I have never tried one before. So after using both, which one do you prefer? Anyway, thanks again :)
The material is a bit louder than your normal tent fabric, but it hasn't been windy at night yet to tell you more about it. I've never been bothered by loud wind or material sounds, though :)The weight is absolutely worth it! The hardest part for me was figuring out how to organize everything after always using a spacious 2-person tent.
@@peterjohnson6273 I can't wait to test the tent in more windy conditions. I'm getting ready for a late Fall trip up in the mountains, and that should give me a good chance to test it again. I already can't wait :)
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I have a similar tent by zpacks. I may be wrong, but it looks like your tent would pitch better if you lengthened the trekking pole by a few cm after loosening all the guy lines. That would make the tent taughter, and allow more ventilation around the base.
Thanks so much for watching and for your suggestion. You might be right. The first couple of times I had it pretty low, which I changed when I filmed this video, it I should try to make the hiking pole even taller to see if it makes a difference. I never had a tent like this before, so I don’t know what the perfect height is. Hilleberg does give a suggestion, but I didn’t measure it yet when setting up the Mid1. I can’t wait to use it again soon, perhaps in the desert just below the Sierra Nevada mountains. Thanks again for taking the time to write :)
Hi. Excellent video! Does it feel like the bungees hold up the floor tall enough? They look a little floppy and I worry items inside the tent like sleeping bag will collapse the bathtub floor edges and get wet. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! I didn't have any problems with the bathtub floor, even though I had quite a bit of gear in the corners. You can always pull it up with these straps that I show in my video. They hold the floor up OK, but you can't compare it to other tents with a taller edge. If it rains and the water drains well, then it will be no problem. If there is ever standing water that pools around the tent, then the bathtub floor might be problematic, but we just have to consider where we pitch the tent to avoid problems like that. I'm going to test the tent in more severe weather on future trips and will post a follow-up video in situations that truly push it to its limit, so stay tuned for that. Perhaps I change my mind about the floor after some more testing in the rainy season and in really windy conditions :)
THANKS, i can clearly see i would never b happy in that tent😢.
i have a ? not related 2 tents...... i dont know what sleep pads u have had over time but, the one in this vid has horizontal baffles,
in ur exp is there a sleepng diff from that to vertical baffles ???
i found no Utbube stuff going into this. i ask bcuz i will get a 2nd pad soon to ease the miles on my current Klymit pad wich is a 'v'
shaped layout. i really like it but want to try others cuz.... y not 😊. !!! thanks Andrea and ATB !!!!!
Thanks so much for watching and for your comment, Tracy! This tent is definitely not for everyone. It took me some time to get used to the small space and slanted walls. I was very spoiled with my previous tent, which had lots of space. I will still use it when weight is not an issue, for example, when I go canoe camping.
Now to your question about the sleeping pad. I never had one with vertical baffles, but it doesn't matter which direction they face. The most important thing is the "R-value." This number will tell you how much heat reflects back at you and how warm you will be. The higher the R-value, the warmer the pad. The one you see me use in this video has a rating of 4.5. My winter sleeping pad by the same company has a rating of 7.3. You can see the rating when you go to their website: alnk.to/eZH42FE
Which one were you thinking about buying? Perhaps I can help you determine if it's warm enough or not. The warmth comes from the filling of the sleeping pad. Therm-A-Rest has a reflective material inside that bounces your warmth back at you, and the cold temperature of the ground is reflected away from you. Others have a fiber inside, similar to a sleeping bag. Some really cheap sleeping pads might not have anything inside and would be too cold. Air by itself does not insulate from the cold ground.
I hope this helps, but feel free to send me links if you are not sure. I'm happy to help if I can, although I only ever bought Therm-A-Rest sleeping pads so far. :)
Cheers,
Andrea
I don't know if it's the angle of the camera, or something else, but the tent looks tiny. I looked at it on the Hyperlite website and it gave the dimensions of the length and width, but not the height. What is the height? I know that since it's a single pole tent with what appears to be a lower height, the back wall of the tent slants in too much which means that if you're moving around inside, your head scrapes against it a lot, like it did in the video. Also, I know it's probably because of the soil you're in that you weren't able to get a taught pitch since you had to use rocks. But the pitch of the tent was very loose and flapping around a lot. I would like to add a single pole dyneema tent to my kit, but I think if I do, it will be a Zpacks Altaplex. It has a taller height which allows the back wall to be almost vertical and the bathtub has 8" walls instead of 6" like the Mid 1. Either way though, these are both great ultralight tents that shave off so much weight!
Hi there, thank you for watching my video and for taking the time to comment. The site actually has the height listed at 54.0" | 137.2cm. I didn't measure it myself, though. When I first started using the tent, I didn't pull my trekking pole out far enough, and it was really tight inside. When I extended it more, it seemed a bit better, but perhaps I can try and extend it even further.
Although I had to use rocks where I pitched my tent, I still got it as tight as possible. I think the back will always be loose because there is no tent pole supporting it like in most free-standing tents, for instance. It's just the one trekking pole, and the fabric all around it is pulled tight by the corners and the guylines. The attachment points for the guylines stretch, which may also give the impression that it's loose. Since I only had wind during the day, and it was quiet at night, it didn't bother me, but I want to test the tent in all sorts of conditions and will do a follow-up video as soon as I have enough footage. It will be interesting to test in stormy weather. It should hold with 11 attachment points, but time will tell, I guess.
The tent you chose also looks really good and is a bit lighter than the Mid 1. If you buy it, I would love to hear your thoughts.
Thanks again!
Cheers, Andrea
Hyperlight spec's the length of pole recommended. My poles was 2" shorter. Never thought it'd be an issue, it was. I cut a jack for the tip of the pole and it's made a big difference in how tight the panels are. I also fit ford to the two back, and two end tie-outs. This two has made a big difference in the interior volume. I'm a big hammocker, and I thought that a tent the size of the Mid 1 would be an issue. It took the pole jack, the additional tie-out cords on the panels, and two nights in it to convince me I like this thing. :>)
@@peterjohnson6273 Thanks so much for watching and for taking the time to comment. I had the same problem with the height at first. My pole was long enough, but I didn't extend it far enough when I first pitched the tent, and it was very loose. The guy lines definitely also make a big difference. How tight do you pull them? I'm still playing with the setup, and I may create a follow-up video after a year or so to update my viewers on what I learned from setting it up many times.
Another viewer commented on using a hammock. I have never tried one before. So after using both, which one do you prefer? Anyway, thanks again :)
How loud (crinkly) is the material?
The material is a bit louder than your normal tent fabric, but it hasn't been windy at night yet to tell you more about it. I've never been bothered by loud wind or material sounds, though :)The weight is absolutely worth it! The hardest part for me was figuring out how to organize everything after always using a spacious 2-person tent.
If you set the tent up taught so the material doesn't flap, it's very quiet.
@@peterjohnson6273 I can't wait to test the tent in more windy conditions. I'm getting ready for a late Fall trip up in the mountains, and that should give me a good chance to test it again. I already can't wait :)