@@antigoniem06But if the team is profitable especially through Jersey sales. Then the players have a better position to negotiate better contracts and individual endorsement deals.
@@antigoniem06 Under the WNBA's collective bargaining agreement, players benefit from revenue sharing - but they get a 50-50 split of incremental revenue, not all revenue, per Her Hoops Stats. And the WNBPA receives 50 percent of revenue from player-specific jersey sales. They hardly get any revenue because there’s no sales.
@@antigoniem06coz the wnba makes a loss every year. its a charity league. they are getting paid too much as it is. besides how many jerseys do you think they are selling? wnba total revenue is 60m
@@Brando90198 Also, the all-woman Union salary-capped all incoming rookies. This is why Clark’s pay is what it is. It’s not about men/women. It’s about typical Union behavior and the fixed pie fallacy.
You have to put butts in the seats before teams can start to increase pay. Somehow they forgot to mention that the WNBA as a whole looses about 10 million dollars a year, the league has to turn a profit before they can start paying players larger salaries. They also didn't mention that the NBA gives 60 million dollars towards WNBA players salaries, if you're going to attack the pay difference you have to break down the reasons why it exists.
I think its much more comfortable to sell yourself a lie as oppose to truth. Women on that show have built such a false narrative in their heads that they refuse to acknowledge the fact that the WNBA does loose millions every year. Maybe they just don't know and they are ignorant. Which is worse in a way, because you should never talk about a subject if you know nothing of it.
The fact is that womens sports dont bring even 1% of the viewership as mens sports do bc men are much better at everything than women especially sports. Its not fun to watch people shoot layups and miss half of them. 99% of them cant dunk and cant shoot nearly as well as men. Even women dont want to watch womens sports. Women love mens sports. The only thing women have to offer is their looks so if they played in bikini 👙 then maybe they would get more viewership.
@TheKayleeanna by the number, women are more than men. If women can show up at their game the way men do, all those women players would be millionaires
@@TheKayleeannait's not sexist to tell the truth. You know you don't watch the WNBA, no one does. So stop complaining. Either watch it and spend money or be quiet. It's not the world's fault you don't know basic math and how sell revenues work.
Dawn Staley said it best on NPR yesterday. Go back and look at what the NBA players made when that league was 28 years old and you will find they didn't make any money either. The WNBA is a young league with scant public support. People need to chill out about this. If you want them to make more money go see the games and buy the merchandise.
@@GBuds_RVremodel I enjoy WNBA games; I have attended several over the years. But that does not change the fact that when you attend one of the games, the arena is only half full. People have to start supporting them.
Hey, Whoopi. What happens to a star actor/actress when the movies they’re in continually lose money? What happens to a singer when their records aren’t selling? They’re dropped.
especially when the average income for the working American is only 32 grand a year! even if both parents are working they still cant make what these whiners are making! and the working family is of far more value to this country then a bunch of women and mentally ill men who can barely play the sport they are getting paid to play!
Not controversial at all. Men's basketball makes billions of dollars, women's loses 10s of millions per year. What else needs to be said? The NBA actually supplements the WNBA's paychecks.
You do know that salaries in all sports have to be negotiated? You know the collective bargaining agreement Sunny was talking about. THAT "deal". Pay attention.🙄
Bill Burr is a common-sense progressive rather than a woke goofball. And he rightfully points out women need to support the WNBA if they want players making more.
I think that's the problem with this type of show. They don't really ever invite anyone on with a counter-point to their world view unless he/she is a politician. Even the so-called conservative on that show agrees with like 80-90% of the very idiotic rhetoric that comes out these ladies mouths.
The priority of the world is messed up. These people throw a ball for about 4 months in the year and get paid 6 figures, where's the outrage for teachers?
@@annajordan243 That’s the most asinine thing I’ve heard regarding business! Yeah, I know we haven’t made any profit yet, but we should just keep putting more money into it. Low IQ.
@@annajordan243 from a investment point of view what would attract someone to invest in the WNBA? To use men's sport in the US as a point of comparison, the big money investments didn't really start until it showed itself as a good investment that could make good returns.
@@annajordan243the NBA is losing money every year supporting the WNBA. This is entertainment. You put butts in seats you get paid. You put butts in seats, you get TV deals, more money.
If you actually supported the WNBA as much as you complained about men (the league's biggest supporters, by the way) not supporting the WNBA, maybe the ladies' salaries would improve. But you conveniently leave out the fact that they lose money annually. Or that they don't even play half the games that the men do during a season. And I'm willing to bet, outside of Sonny, none of you even know who the current champs are. This is laughable.
Not their job. Their job it to play. WNBA needs to do the marketing and bring advertising. Why do we always expect employees to do everything and get paid less. Corporate needs to be help accountable
More importantly, they make an overall loss of $10 million every year. The league would’ve folded decades ago if the NBA didn’t write them a cheque at the end of every season to cover their losses. Then the players have the NERVE to demand more money?!?! Incredible!!!!
Caitlin Clark is close to signing an eight figure endorsement deal. The panel didn't talk about endorsement deals and what they are worth. Is the pay scale skewed between male and female players? Yes, but I don't think Clark is going to be sleeping on a park bench anytime soon.
And she’ll make a tonne more through sponsorships this year. She’s earned that. There’s no reason to then give the rest of the WNBA money they haven’t earned like this panel is suggesting.
I don’t think it’s about her. The superstars will always be more than fine because those are the o my people America cares about. The number one person and no one else. It’s about all the other players as well given the new-found popularity. It doesn’t have to be even close to the NBA of course but that is a CRAZY low salary
If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It doesn't make any difference how beautiful your guess is, it doesn't matter how smart you are who made the guess, or what his name is … If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong. Tickets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many tickets were sold? WTF is wrong with you people?
They’ll get paid when all you people who act like you’re outraged bring your butt to a game. However, you not gonna do that because you’re more entertained by the NBA And that’s why they get paid more. Go support the big 3 ice cube was willing to give her 5 million
No it does not spark controversy they make no money. If you'd like to see them make more go out and buy tickets, and merch. I'd love to see it happen but this is the only way.
The WNBA have to bring bigger viewership. If your ratings is consistent and then they can make money in a big TV deal that will trickle down to the players.
Woman here 🙋🏾♀️. I don't watch sports unless it's the superbowl or the Olympics. I hope they can find other women viewers out there who are not like me 😭
@Marv.M Yes the halftime show is a big draw for me, and the commercials 😂. However, I do get into the game, but I don't really have a dog in the fight so I just route for whoever seems to be the underdog or has a compelling comeup story
Why doesn't Whoopi use her millions to pay the athletes she thinks deserve the money? She could help fund the league. She could buy a team. Billion vs million is a biiiig difference they just gloss over. Whoopi should get her millionaire friends to fund the W. Who else is with me!!
@@MrMalcolm900 Because it cost money and they haven't profited not ONE year, if you own a business are you going to keep making ads everyday for a product not selling? Ppl don't get that part when they're talking marketing, like it's cheap and WNBA loses millions a year. Local media have commercials about the WNBA team in my city just as much as the men and ppl still don't go to them games. I think 70-80% of WNBA viewership is men, so it makes no sense to suppress it from the ppl who are most likely going to watch the most. Maybe they can market it around Women Drama shows lol
Would rather watch NBA Wives than the WNBA. Kardashians over Clark. Ladies, support the league and stop relying on NBA subsidies; the WNBA is a net loss and has been every single season.
As Bill burr said "You don't sell any tickets" you cam quote the NCAA women's numbers all day but when it don't translate it'll all come down to the same ole story
My opinion they get paid to much anyways to play a game while others work their finger down to a nub and get paid nothing… play a game play pretend and get paid thousands and millions work long hours making or providing products everyone needs to survive and you get paid nothing
@@Cbreeze92 I disagree. Take the NBA for example, their pay is based on the revenue they generate. They produce a highly profitable product which makes the owners and organisation a ton of money. I think that justifies their pay. It's just their fair share.
They lose 10 million dollars a year! Where are they gonna get the money from? The NBA already subsidizes that league. Bring this up when they start turning a profit. So make people are sick of this debate!
@@thee_morpheus maybe, but it does give their marketing team something to work with. The constant controversy about their pay rates in a league with losses money every year seems to be the only time the WNBA makes headlines and I think does them more harm than good from a brand perspective.
@@truthbtold8697 The Wnba about to make hundreds of millions from Clark and Reese Jersey sales and home road ticket sales. This will be the first season the WNBA will make a profit even tho they owe the NBA about 200 million for funding their league up until this point
Nurses and doctors make less than her with her endorsements. Imagine how healthy our society could be if we paid health care like we pay basketball players.
Im sorry but the griner thing is annoying. When she was detained in russia for weed she was making over 100k a year but was saying she had to go overseas just to survive because she didnt make enough. People in this country are making half that. You can survive off that
Equal pay when they don’t bring close to the equal viewership the NBA does? 😂 Caitlyn Clark is the reason why women’s college basketball was popping off.. but WNBA viewership is 🗑️🚮. Once that changes, WNBA players will never have “equal pay”
The NBA began in 1946, by 1976, 30 years in, the average salary was $130,000. The WNBA began in 1997, by 2023, 26 years in, the average salary was $147,745. The NBA has an average attendance of 18,324 fans over 82 games. In 2023 the WNBA's attendance rose to 6,615 fans over 40 games. 1.62 Million fans watched NBA regular season games per average. 505 Thousand fans watched WNBA regular season games per average.-An average of $11,491 fans attended LSU Women's Basketball games this year with Angel Reese, and an average of $11,143 fans attended Iowa's Women's Basketball games this year with Caitlin Clark. According to On3 Sports, Angel Reese's NIL valuation was $1.8 Million, and Caitlin Clark's was $3.1 Million. These college players are producing a better product on the floor than the WNBA, and that translates into $Dollar$.-Magic Johnson and Larry Bird came into the league in 1979, and by 1983 the ➡️ AVERAGE SALARY ⬅️ doubled to $275,000, I believe these girls can be the Magic and Bird of this generation, but the bottom line is people are not going to tune in or pay for a subpar product. And what is Whoopi talking about? The WNBA was pushed hard on Lifetime and women didn't watch it! As a matter of fact, how many of these women on this panel watch the WNBA? Next you'll be blaming me for not watching it... SMH. BTW/ Brittney Griner was detained in Russia for 10 months because she broke the law in Russia. Stop conflating issues to seem like you have a valid point.
@@Tortilla.Reform It does influence the topic though. If you only vocally support something, complaining about a lack of material support is - pointless.
@@Tortilla.Reform whatever you say buddy.. guess that’s the liberal way complain about it.. without ever addressing the issue.. because then we would have to address why women don’t support other women like they support male sports.
This issue goes way beyond basketball, it's about women getting equal pay for the work they do in their professional careers. This is what it's like to live in a patriarchal country.
Exactly. Which is why if women want to see these athletes get paid like the men, then actually watch the sport, buy the merchandise, and buy the tickets. Its enough women to make that happen, how you gettin mad those WNBA players ain't getting pid like the men when the money simply isn't there.
@@MrMalcolm900 How do you explain in the past the women's USA soccer team got way more wins, and was watched 10 times more than the men's team..and got pennies to the men's dollars?
The women in the view, they’re all just a big bag of noise. Firstly! I doubt anyone of them have ever watch a WNBA game. When the WNBA start to generate profit instead of losing money every year and NOT be subsidized by the NBA then they will start get better pay.
I mean I hope they negotiate to get paid more but if you make a 150 grand and feel the need to play in Russia, that's on you if you don't follow the laws over there. No one forced Brittany Griner to go to Russia, she's not a typical economic migrant. Most of us will never make close to a 150 grand and somehow we aren't financially struggling to the point where we have to work overseas. Also if you have time to go overseas, that means your salary isn't for a year, it's 150 grand for like half a year's work.
76k for 3 months of work? I will take that in a heart beat. A "Pay Gap" implies that there is a comparison within the same company, but the WNBA is a seperate, unaffiliated organization than the NBA so there can be no "pay gap". Next, last year's revenue for the NBA was $10 BILLION, while the WNBA was $60 MILLION. That's a difference of almost 200x; thus you would expect the average salaries of the NBA to be at least 200 times more than the WNBA. The fact is that WNBA salaries are too high. The proof is that the league loses money every year, and has to be subsidized by the NBA. Comparing today's WNBA salary to today's NBA is crazy; the better comparison would be todays WNBA, to the NBA salaries of 1980. In 1980, the NBA had revenue of $180 million, and an average salary of 180k per player. The wnba is inferior, in every way, for all levels of men's basketball, and is a real horror to watch. Improve the entertainment value, on the court, and the dollars will eventually follow. That's what happened with the NBA.
WNBA was forced on each NBA owner, if they you were an NBA owner you had to have a women's team. Most of these women's teams lose money. How can you expect to increase the pay of women players if they can't make money?
There was high viewership in final minutes of women's championship; but there's no consistent TV fan base to support NBA salaries in WNBA. Male models' pay is a tiny fraction of women's pay _(everything is _*_not_*_ gender bias)._
The complainers need to start going to games and buying merch. It's really that simple.
The players don't see money from jersey/merch sales.
@@antigoniem06But if the team is profitable especially through Jersey sales. Then the players have a better position to negotiate better contracts and individual endorsement deals.
@@antigoniem06 Under the WNBA's collective bargaining agreement, players benefit from revenue sharing - but they get a 50-50 split of incremental revenue, not all revenue, per Her Hoops Stats. And the WNBPA receives 50 percent of revenue from player-specific jersey sales.
They hardly get any revenue because there’s no sales.
@@antigoniem06coz the wnba makes a loss every year. its a charity league. they are getting paid too much as it is. besides how many jerseys do you think they are selling? wnba total revenue is 60m
@@Brando90198 Also, the all-woman Union salary-capped all incoming rookies. This is why Clark’s pay is what it is. It’s not about men/women. It’s about typical Union behavior and the fixed pie fallacy.
Women don’t watch the WNBA. The WBNA needs to generate more advertising. So maybe Clark can help bring more viewers.
You have to put butts in the seats before teams can start to increase pay. Somehow they forgot to mention that the WNBA as a whole looses about 10 million dollars a year, the league has to turn a profit before they can start paying players larger salaries. They also didn't mention that the NBA gives 60 million dollars towards WNBA players salaries, if you're going to attack the pay difference you have to break down the reasons why it exists.
I think its much more comfortable to sell yourself a lie as oppose to truth. Women on that show have built such a false narrative in their heads that they refuse to acknowledge the fact that the WNBA does loose millions every year. Maybe they just don't know and they are ignorant. Which is worse in a way, because you should never talk about a subject if you know nothing of it.
Amen!!
The View took the politically correct woke gender position. Surprise.
Exactly
Y’all women need to support the women of the WNBA…point blank period🤷🏽♂️
Why support something you’re not interested in? The WNBA loses money every year because it’s not interesting
No we don't.... Point Blank Period. Stop trying to tell people what they should be doing. Stay in your lane.
You like looking at DUDES more then women ?
Nope, I care less about women's basketball
EVERYBODY needs to support the WNBA
No woman on the view has ever seen 2 WNBA games live.
Can you blame them? The product is AWFUL
Sunny is on the WNBA board of advocates. Pretty sure you have to go to games to be on that.
I bet Sunny has byach
How do YOU know that? You DON'T.
Facts!!!!
Brittney got locked up because of her low pay? I thought she got caught with the weed?
It was Weed.. They paid her more but she got caught with Weed allegedly
She had to go to Russia for more money because American women don’t support their own athletes.
No she was getting paid more to play over there than she did over here, she got locked up for the weed yes.
She got traded for a Russian international arms dealer. Shortly after, Russia attacks Ukraine.
Thanks Biden. We traded an ogre for a terrorist.
Listen, Truth doesn't matter when pushing a narrative. You better agree with what the establishment says or you are a racist bigot loser
*Blame women for not attending women basketball, stop playing victim*
The fact is that womens sports dont bring even 1% of the viewership as mens sports do bc men are much better at everything than women especially sports.
Its not fun to watch people shoot layups and miss half of them. 99% of them cant dunk and cant shoot nearly as well as men.
Even women dont want to watch womens sports. Women love mens sports.
The only thing women have to offer is their looks so if they played in bikini 👙 then maybe they would get more viewership.
How sexist! Blame men for not watching the WNBA.
@TheKayleeanna by the number, women are more than men.
If women can show up at their game the way men do, all those women players would be millionaires
@@TheKayleeannablame these nuts
@@TheKayleeannait's not sexist to tell the truth. You know you don't watch the WNBA, no one does. So stop complaining. Either watch it and spend money or be quiet. It's not the world's fault you don't know basic math and how sell revenues work.
Yall need to stop this bs...omg wnba isn't profitable
Exactly!! They sound ridiculous… per usual
Dawn Staley said it best on NPR yesterday. Go back and look at what the NBA players made when that league was 28 years old and you will find they didn't make any money either. The WNBA is a young league with scant public support. People need to chill out about this. If you want them to make more money go see the games and buy the merchandise.
Air Caitlin Clark brand.
Exactly
Your projecting your own feelings. Wnba is a better game. You just don't know that
@@GBuds_RVremodel I enjoy WNBA games; I have attended several over the years. But that does not change the fact that when you attend one of the games, the arena is only half full. People have to start supporting them.
You would think this is a logical argument, but apparently the ladies on the View believe their emotions should triumph over facts (and Math).
ask the audience how many of them watch WNBA regularly... you'll get your answer, sadly
i watch more wnba than nba.
@GorgieClarissa YOU..but is America like that???
@@GorgieClarissathat’s great YOU do. Others complaining probably don’t.
@@abby4027 I heard the same thing. Viewership has to increase if they want to see an increase in salaries. Ad dollars makes the difference.
@@lpgilber as dollars, sponsorships, interest, apparel. Everything that goes into it!
She was detained for weed not for playing basketball!
And I thought it was crazy for Sunny to say that. Like, hold her accountable like you do for trump or any other republican.
Right lol she wasn't the only American woman basketball player to ever play in Russia lol
ya but they're saying she didn't have to go to Russia had she made a million in the WNBA
Did they really say she was arrested for playing basketball? Can you give a timestamp please? I can't watch this whole cancerous video.
@@justinspace6335no she wouldn’t need to go to Russia if women actually supported her league
It's true and sad, but the WNBA viewership is way lower than the NBA! There is lack of interest and sponsors!
It’s not “sad”. People like what they like.
They need to encourage more women to watch women's sports
Yeah no duh
Indeed. There is no reason to get millions when no one is watching and is subsidies by nba.
@TRINI818 Most females don't like sports. They like fashion and bs.
Their false outrage is so predictable. . .🙄
The "half the population are useless unless they get 🥒 in the bum" crew of old crones 🤣
Notice how the ladies didn't mention the games they go to.
I think Sunny for sure goes, but not sure abiut rhe rest of them.
That’s like imagine a salesperson losing money for the company and expecting more pay..
Hey, Whoopi. What happens to a star actor/actress when the movies they’re in continually lose money? What happens to a singer when their records aren’t selling? They’re dropped.
Getting paid 76k a year to play a game is definitely a first world problem 😂
This!!
You probably never supported the WNBA until you watched the NCAA tournament
@@MrRepsMrRepsmy dad can beat up your dad
especially when the average income for the working American is only 32 grand a year! even if both parents are working they still cant make what these whiners are making! and the working family is of far more value to this country then a bunch of women and mentally ill men who can barely play the sport they are getting paid to play!
yeah but WNBA needs to turn a profit before the pay raises
This is where your misinformation is gross. Lies lies
Well how can they do that when their not advertised as much.
@@kendallbedford2523 because there’s not an audience sponsors want to invest. The women are paid commensurate to how much the WNBA makes.
@@mcanqbyou state he is lying but bring no proof? Show me your evidence they are making a profit
Y’all that doesn’t make it right that they are paid so low. Let’s not be misogynistic
Not controversial at all. Men's basketball makes billions of dollars, women's loses 10s of millions per year. What else needs to be said? The NBA actually supplements the WNBA's paychecks.
What “deal” is Whoopi talking about? Lol 😂
Its implied all she is trying to say is they not paying enough.
You do know that salaries in all sports have to be negotiated? You know the collective bargaining agreement Sunny was talking about. THAT "deal". Pay attention.🙄
Whoopi has NO idea what she is talking about
Literally NONE!!!
she just will not stop talking just cutting folks off when there taking. I would tell to stop cutting me off you stringy headed @#%$^$^
I would love for them to hear Bill Burr’s take on the WNBA. The feelings would be shattered.
💯💯👍🏿👍🏿
And Bill Burrs take on triggered Trump supporters who were crying when his wife flipped trump off
@@Tortilla.Reform and I was crying laughing. He’s more progressive than people think he is.
Bill Burr is a common-sense progressive rather than a woke goofball. And he rightfully points out women need to support the WNBA if they want players making more.
I think that's the problem with this type of show. They don't really ever invite anyone on with a counter-point to their world view unless he/she is a politician. Even the so-called conservative on that show agrees with like 80-90% of the very idiotic rhetoric that comes out these ladies mouths.
She makes more than most teachers. So im not shedding any tears for athletes paid to play a game
Especially in front of only 25% filled arenas for only 4 months
Not gunna lie, that probably says more about how underpaid US teachers are than anything else.
So which of the 5 hosts have posted themselves at a wnba game?
4 I know of
None
@@GBuds_RVremodel
4 people at $1000 per ticket...... how much can that boost the revenue?
IF U R RIGHT
Sarah Haines
The priority of the world is messed up. These people throw a ball for about 4 months in the year and get paid 6 figures, where's the outrage for teachers?
Do all these people crying about it ever even watch the WNBA? Somehow I doubt it. The revenue has to be there, people. This isn't rocket science. 🙄
it takes money to make money .........RICH PEOPLE arent investing the money
@@annajordan243 That’s the most asinine thing I’ve heard regarding business! Yeah, I know we haven’t made any profit yet, but we should just keep putting more money into it. Low IQ.
@@annajordan243The NBA is supporting the WNBA. Otherwise, the WNBA would fold.
@@annajordan243 from a investment point of view what would attract someone to invest in the WNBA?
To use men's sport in the US as a point of comparison, the big money investments didn't really start until it showed itself as a good investment that could make good returns.
@@annajordan243the NBA is losing money every year supporting the WNBA. This is entertainment. You put butts in seats you get paid. You put butts in seats, you get TV deals, more money.
If you actually supported the WNBA as much as you complained about men (the league's biggest supporters, by the way) not supporting the WNBA, maybe the ladies' salaries would improve. But you conveniently leave out the fact that they lose money annually. Or that they don't even play half the games that the men do during a season. And I'm willing to bet, outside of Sonny, none of you even know who the current champs are. This is laughable.
They will get a pay raise when they bring in more revenue. Let's cut the foolishness.
Not their job. Their job it to play. WNBA needs to do the marketing and bring advertising. Why do we always expect employees to do everything and get paid less. Corporate needs to be help accountable
@@abbymoore35 Who's going to advertise to empty seats?
WNBA generates 60 million annually. It's proportional to what they generate as a company
More importantly, they make an overall loss of $10 million every year. The league would’ve folded decades ago if the NBA didn’t write them a cheque at the end of every season to cover their losses. Then the players have the NERVE to demand more money?!?! Incredible!!!!
It can generate all that but at tge end of the year they in the red
The wnba operates as a lost they are subsidized by the nba! Apples and oranges!
These broads are lucky they get paid at all
Ask bill burrs opinion on wnba.
He just rightfully calls out females for not supporting the WNBA.
Support your local public school teachers with that salary!
Why not reduce NBA men’s salaries
@@amincy1 Reduce both men and women's salaries.
@@amincy1why? They’re the ones wracking up the money. They shouldn’t get punished cause the WNBA lacks the traction to make any money
Teachers are massively overpaid already, especially for what they do.
@@amincy1 women don't watch or care about the WNBA until it's time to complain about the "pay gap." Somehow this is something men need to fix?
Caitlin Clark is close to signing an eight figure endorsement deal. The panel didn't talk about endorsement deals and what they are worth. Is the pay scale skewed between male and female players? Yes, but I don't think Clark is going to be sleeping on a park bench anytime soon.
$76k to play a child's game. To think any pro athlete gets more than $100k is stupid and shows how comfortable we have become with the absurd.
Caitlin made $3.1 mil last year from marketing deals. She'll be fine.
And she’ll make a tonne more through sponsorships this year. She’s earned that. There’s no reason to then give the rest of the WNBA money they haven’t earned like this panel is suggesting.
I don’t think it’s about her. The superstars will always be more than fine because those are the o my people
America cares about. The number one person and no one else. It’s about all the other players as well given the new-found popularity. It doesn’t have to be even close to the NBA of course but that is a CRAZY low salary
It’s not the point
if that's the case, then why are the boys' salaries so high?
She should STILL be paid more
If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science. It doesn't make any difference how beautiful your guess is, it doesn't matter how smart you are who made the guess, or what his name is … If it disagrees with experiment, it's wrong.
Tickets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many tickets were sold? WTF is wrong with you people?
They’ll get paid when all you people who act like you’re outraged bring your butt to a game. However, you not gonna do that because you’re more entertained by the NBA And that’s why they get paid more. Go support the big 3 ice cube was willing to give her 5 million
Say it again for those in the back.
It's going to take both sides.
@@kendallbedford2523what do you mean?
@@kendallbedford2523 no it’s gonna take real interest. Not just saying it because women power.
@@kendallbedford2523 middle aged men are already the WNBA's biggest demographic.
Supply and demand...
There has to be huge financial interest...
I don’t know what Whoopi is talking about half the time
Everyone: "You can't get a stupider person on TV than Joy Behar!"
The View: "Hold my beer..."
She's already wealthier than every other WNBA player 😂
you know you’re rich when $76,000 isn’t “any money”.
No it does not spark controversy they make no money. If you'd like to see them make more go out and buy tickets, and merch. I'd love to see it happen but this is the only way.
Whoopi is always interrupting Sunny
Her points were very valid today, at least.
The WNBA have to bring bigger viewership. If your ratings is consistent and then they can make money in a big TV deal that will trickle down to the players.
Let's see what Bill Burr has to say on the matter...
Who cares what he says! He's a hack, not an overlord ffs
@@maximilian2974lol wut? Bill is a progressive common sense guy, and he rightfully says in this topic women need to support the WNBA then.
Well if the majority of women went and watched the game live or on tv then they’d get millions it’s that simple
This is not why millionaire Britney griner was in Russia. Pls
The WNBA operates at a deficit, they're lucky to be getting paid at all.
What yall need to be asking is why don't women go to the games?
Woman here 🙋🏾♀️. I don't watch sports unless it's the superbowl or the Olympics. I hope they can find other women viewers out there who are not like me 😭
@@nzinga8 Quick Question do you watch the Super Bowl because of that Half time show ??? 😄 lol
@Marv.M Yes the halftime show is a big draw for me, and the commercials 😂. However, I do get into the game, but I don't really have a dog in the fight so I just route for whoever seems to be the underdog or has a compelling comeup story
@nzinga8 That's basically every woman i know when our friends do a superbowl party , their wife are just there for the half time show and Drinks lol 😆
I hear women complained about the money they make , but women don't go to their games!
Nobody in the room, will buy a wnba ticket
Even Sunny doesn’t buy her tickets lmao
This is Funny how NOW folks are TALKING about the WNBA SALARY WHEN THESE WOMEN BEEN SAYING THIS
Yep! We were having this same conversation when Brittney Griner was locked up in Russia.
They sure have been
The game is not watched.
And?
@laurensettles4789 the WNBA makes 60 million annually. More people should support so the revenue goes up
None of these women understand revenue vs profit.
Maybe Joy can pay her some of the 10 million dollars she's trying to get out of ryan reynolds and disney for Deadpool 3
Oh my god, you have JDS....Joy Derangement Syndrom. Get a life.
Gfy
No 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 👎 blah
Why doesn't Whoopi use her millions to pay the athletes she thinks deserve the money? She could help fund the league. She could buy a team. Billion vs million is a biiiig difference they just gloss over. Whoopi should get her millionaire friends to fund the W. Who else is with me!!
More people watch the NBA and that translates into more ads that translate into more $$$. Not many people watch the WNBA
And that's because they purposely suppress the sport by not advertising it enough in the media.
@@MrMalcolm900 Because it cost money and they haven't profited not ONE year, if you own a business are you going to keep making ads everyday for a product not selling? Ppl don't get that part when they're talking marketing, like it's cheap and WNBA loses millions a year. Local media have commercials about the WNBA team in my city just as much as the men and ppl still don't go to them games. I think 70-80% of WNBA viewership is men, so it makes no sense to suppress it from the ppl who are most likely going to watch the most. Maybe they can market it around Women Drama shows lol
People love to make it out to be sexism but this is the one time women making less than men ISN'T Sexism😊
They just got the viewers. Hopefully ppl will still watch so they can get more sponsors
Would rather watch NBA Wives than the WNBA. Kardashians over Clark. Ladies, support the league and stop relying on NBA subsidies; the WNBA is a net loss and has been every single season.
Sara Haines at the end of the segment "I don't know I she can play ball" 😂
The ignorance of these old hens is astounding
More then they deserve!!! They don't make money for ownership. They make alot marketing. Men are more competitive.
Ask them how many wnba games have they attended or took the time out to watch on screen?
What is wrong with Joy???? What does Marjory Taylor Green have to do with this conversation??🤔😂
She brings him up a lot like she does with Donald Trump.
The bag has MTG derangement syndrome too
As Bill burr said "You don't sell any tickets" you cam quote the NCAA women's numbers all day but when it don't translate it'll all come down to the same ole story
Zero interest in any basketball male or female snooze fest 😴
My opinion they get paid to much anyways to play a game while others work their finger down to a nub and get paid nothing… play a game play pretend and get paid thousands and millions work long hours making or providing products everyone needs to survive and you get paid nothing
@@Cbreeze92 I disagree. Take the NBA for example, their pay is based on the revenue they generate. They produce a highly profitable product which makes the owners and organisation a ton of money. I think that justifies their pay.
It's just their fair share.
They lose 10 million dollars a year! Where are they gonna get the money from? The NBA already subsidizes that league. Bring this up when they start turning a profit. So make people are sick of this debate!
I’m sure their salaries will go up once they break a profit which will probably happen soon with this new interest.
Don’t hold your breath. It hasn’t happened in 25 years.
People are overestimating Clark’s influence on the WNBA, college basketball has a different audience all together
@@thee_morpheus maybe, but it does give their marketing team something to work with.
The constant controversy about their pay rates in a league with losses money every year seems to be the only time the WNBA makes headlines and I think does them more harm than good from a brand perspective.
Caitlyn didnt complain
Clark and Angel Reese the only players who should get paid more because they bring a following like bird and magic.
IN COLLEGE..they have to see if that will translate to the WNBA
We don’t even know if that will be the case in the WNBA. College ball is a different sport.
@@truthbtold8697 The Wnba about to make hundreds of millions from Clark and Reese Jersey sales and home road ticket sales. This will be the first season the WNBA will make a profit even tho they owe the NBA about 200 million for funding their league up until this point
True.
@@timothytaylor9835 There’s a 0% chance they make that much from Clarke and Reese jerseys.
Nurses and doctors make less than her with her endorsements. Imagine how healthy our society could be if we paid health care like we pay basketball players.
The wnba hopes they can get some of the college fans to carryover. Unfortunately I don't think its gonna happen
Exactly, people are overestimating Clark’s influence on the WNBA, college basketball has a different audience all together
WNBA league revenue is $200 million a year. The Los Angeles Lakers Revenue is $516 Million. NBA league revenue is $10.58 Billion.
Some people don't know or care about basketball or women's basketball so this segment is blank to them 😂🤣.
Im sorry but the griner thing is annoying. When she was detained in russia for weed she was making over 100k a year but was saying she had to go overseas just to survive because she didnt make enough. People in this country are making half that. You can survive off that
Acting like Britney Griner cant survive on 150k/year is hilarious
Acting like any of the male NBA players can’t survive on their multi-million dollars is hilarious.
That’s not the point. Equal pay is the point.
You don’t say that about me how do you know what she has and what she could afford to live off of you don’t question the man salary
Equal pay when they don’t bring close to the equal viewership the NBA does? 😂
Caitlyn Clark is the reason why women’s college basketball was popping off.. but WNBA viewership is 🗑️🚮.
Once that changes, WNBA players will never have “equal pay”
And that she wasn’t in jail for breaking the law…
The NBA began in 1946, by 1976, 30 years in, the average salary was $130,000. The WNBA began in 1997, by 2023, 26 years in, the average salary was $147,745. The NBA has an average attendance of 18,324 fans over 82 games. In 2023 the WNBA's attendance rose to 6,615 fans over 40 games. 1.62 Million fans watched NBA regular season games per average. 505 Thousand fans watched WNBA regular season games per average.-An average of $11,491 fans attended LSU Women's Basketball games this year with Angel Reese, and an average of $11,143 fans attended Iowa's Women's Basketball games this year with Caitlin Clark. According to On3 Sports, Angel Reese's NIL valuation was $1.8 Million, and Caitlin Clark's was $3.1 Million. These college players are producing a better product on the floor than the WNBA, and that translates into $Dollar$.-Magic Johnson and Larry Bird came into the league in 1979, and by 1983 the ➡️ AVERAGE SALARY ⬅️ doubled to $275,000, I believe these girls can be the Magic and Bird of this generation, but the bottom line is people are not going to tune in or pay for a subpar product.
And what is Whoopi talking about? The WNBA was pushed hard on Lifetime and women didn't watch it! As a matter of fact, how many of these women on this panel watch the WNBA? Next you'll be blaming me for not watching it... SMH. BTW/ Brittney Griner was detained in Russia for 10 months because she broke the law in Russia. Stop conflating issues to seem like you have a valid point.
lol none of them have probably ever been to a wnba game ever
You have a point there 👀
You can care about a social issue without being a fan of the sport touched by the social issue, no need to be threshold guardian here
@@Tortilla.Reform It does influence the topic though. If you only vocally support something, complaining about a lack of material support is - pointless.
@@Tortilla.Reform whatever you say buddy.. guess that’s the liberal way complain about it.. without ever addressing the issue.. because then we would have to address why women don’t support other women like they support male sports.
@@Tortilla.Reform So you're just gonna complain about an issue. Without ever taking meaningful action? You're useless lol
Unfortunately the women don’t have the headlines, the fans or the viewers lmao. Whoopie just making stuff up lmao
This issue goes way beyond basketball, it's about women getting equal pay for the work they do in their professional careers. This is what it's like to live in a patriarchal country.
So you think the wnba deserves to be paid the same as the men
"I don't understand-"
Because you don't try to understand. You only want to complain.
The population of this country are more than half of women. Why is it that we continually get the short end of the stick?
I agree with that.
Because your sports suck
Because a lot of Sexism still exists. The Women athletes will start to get paid.
Exactly. Which is why if women want to see these athletes get paid like the men, then actually watch the sport, buy the merchandise, and buy the tickets. Its enough women to make that happen, how you gettin mad those WNBA players ain't getting pid like the men when the money simply isn't there.
@@MrMalcolm900 How do you explain in the past the women's USA soccer team got way more wins, and was watched 10 times more than the men's team..and got pennies to the men's dollars?
Why is everyone in the comments smarter then the view?
The women in the view, they’re all just a big bag of noise. Firstly! I doubt anyone of them have ever watch a WNBA game. When the WNBA start to generate profit instead of losing money every year and NOT be subsidized by the NBA then they will start get better pay.
And yet you girls still won't go to the games
That's why. According to NBC Dallas-Fort Worth's Sanjesh Singh, the WNBA made $2 million in revenue in 2023.
I mean I hope they negotiate to get paid more but if you make a 150 grand and feel the need to play in Russia, that's on you if you don't follow the laws over there. No one forced Brittany Griner to go to Russia, she's not a typical economic migrant. Most of us will never make close to a 150 grand and somehow we aren't financially struggling to the point where we have to work overseas. Also if you have time to go overseas, that means your salary isn't for a year, it's 150 grand for like half a year's work.
76k for 3 months of work? I will take that in a heart beat. A "Pay Gap" implies that there is a comparison within the same company, but the WNBA is a seperate, unaffiliated organization than the NBA so there can be no "pay gap".
Next, last year's revenue for the NBA was $10 BILLION, while the WNBA was $60 MILLION. That's a difference of almost 200x; thus you would expect the average salaries of the NBA to be at least 200 times more than the WNBA.
The fact is that WNBA salaries are too high. The proof is that the league loses money every year, and has to be subsidized by the NBA.
Comparing today's WNBA salary to today's NBA is crazy; the better comparison would be todays WNBA, to the NBA salaries of 1980. In 1980, the NBA had revenue of $180 million, and an average salary of 180k per player.
The wnba is inferior, in every way, for all levels of men's basketball, and is a real horror to watch. Improve the entertainment value, on the court, and the dollars will eventually follow. That's what happened with the NBA.
Ugh whoopi can’t parse reality very well these days
Golden rule for life: Never beg, Never chase and Never expect.
WNBA was forced on each NBA owner, if they you were an NBA owner you had to have a women's team. Most of these women's teams lose money. How can you expect to increase the pay of women players if they can't make money?
3:37 In ESPN's defense, ESPN has been losing money for years now. So much so they had to fire popular on-air personalities.
If I and my friends agree on a big debate, we usually do more research to find out more.
This panel don't care about the truth
Report this. Video false information people
Someone please post a picture or provide a link with Whoopi at a WNBA game. Please.
Sara needs to not cut Sunny off when she's sharing an insider perspective that we don't get everywhere else.
If you’re complaining you should start watching. I gaurantee you aren’t
Honest question how many WNBA games have they been to?
has she paid reparations yet???
Watch Whoopi get canned for trashing her own network ESPN/Disney/ABC 😂😂
The don’t have the fans or viewers. That’s why the money is what it is.
Probably so
Exactly
I know.
There was high viewership in final minutes of women's championship; but there's no consistent TV fan base to support NBA salaries in WNBA. Male models' pay is a tiny fraction of women's pay _(everything is _*_not_*_ gender bias)._