10 Uncomfortable Truths About MMA
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Can't stress how well you guys have done to make this channel an encyclopaedia for MMA. Fastest way to up your mma knowledge is to deep dive through these lists. I've been watching the sport for 10 years now, and 10 years ago i only had (mma fighting comment section days) Going to individual websites to get info, but now its all here. Even stuff for hardcores, its great guys, keep it up!
I totally agree. I started watching mma in 2017. Now I can name every ufc title fight in ufc history. By weight class, champion, and title defenses.
Definitely I started watching mma at the beginning of the pandemic but with these guys I feel like I have watched since ufc 1
This is the comment I wanted to leave. Jesus. Yea these guys got it right.
100% agree. I'm a huge MMA fan and have been watching/ordering UFC's since about 2005. These guys still show me info that I never knew and make me appreciate the sport even more.
Now all you guys think you know everything about the sport. You can seen it in the comment section.
No mention of extreme weight cuts? They can do more damage than the fight itself.
Yeah that’s a big one they missed tbh, good list otherwise
I think that was covered in fighter injury. He mentioned that a bad weight cut could end a career.
You basically sacrifice your metabolism, it's fucking crazy
No but ok
That's been mentioned ad nauseum. They have several dedicated videos for it.
I just had my first public fight a few days ago...got tko'ed and two days later it's been nothing but headaches, Nausea, vomiting...basically feels like being badly hungover but not being able to sleep it off. Really opened my eyes to what these guys deal with after fights. I didn't even get knocked totally unconscious, and felt pretty good leaving the ring.
Not to concern troll here, but, have you gotten checked out at the hospital?
If that vomiting doesn't stop, or you start having vision problems, go to the hospital brother
Please make sure you don't have a serious concussion bro for sure. Keep it easy, better luck next time. Knock this next dude out. U got it
You have a concussion my guy.
been a couple weeks, you good bruh?
@@arcenio429 Bro‘s dead 😭
The most scary thing about brain damage is that, it doesnt necessarily need to show up right after the concussion but rather any time during your life afterwards, specially when getting older, which makes acknowledging it way harder. Definitely something i cant take off my mind when seeing two fighters throwing bombs at each other. A lot of fans just dont realize how much of a tough sport this one is and how much the fighters put on the line everytime they step in a cage/ring, watching them getting booed or disrespected by those filthy casuals pisses me the f off.
Couldn’t agree more. I’m 23, and I had a bad head injury from skateboarding at about 15. I split my head open, had a seizure and kept uncontrollably headbutting the ground while having the seizure. Had a serious concussion and I was dizzy, throwing up and barely remember much of the day or two after it either. However I was given the medical all clear after numerous scans.
Regardless of what they said, over the next 2 years I started having twitches in my neck and upper spine that I couldn’t control, and now I’ve only been cleared to go for my license months ago. I still have twitches, and the doctors said I probably always will. Definitely not a good time.
Going through that though gives me so much respect for these guys risking so much whenever they enter the ring.
P.S Dustin wins tomorrow
@@mikel888666 Im sorry to hear that bud, the good news for you are that, it happened at a very young age so your body is more likely to recover from that, might take longer, you never know. Just dont give up looking for a solution and hopefully you'll start seeing some improvements. My heart is splitted in this one, i like both fighters, but i kinda want to see that gold arround Dustins waist too. That being said, I beleive this is a pretty good matchup for Oliveira, he had struggled against power hitters in the past but, other than that, i dont see many holes in his game, clean technical stricking and a nightmare on the ground. Is gonna be a hell of a card thats for sure, its a shame that we got Jorge and his three piece and a soda taken out of the menu tho...
I agree. This sport takes many things from you. If it werent for brain damage, i probably would've competed for sure. But you never know, one solid strike to the head could take years off your life. The fighters in UFC are just so tough that some of them can walk through many knockouts and still be fine.
I mean yeah but the ufc is growing and that’s a good thing because it’s a lot less dangerous than boxing. As a ufc fighter you spend less time in the ring, a lot of it is grappling and you can submit fighters instead of ko’ing them. Boxing is a brutal sport because you can only aim for the body or head and your only way out of the ring is you either get your head beat in for 12 rounds or you get knocked out. Those are your only two options. It’s brutal because when you get knocked down or hit badly you can’t just grapple and try and recover, nope, you might have a concussion but the ref stands you up, forces you in your feet and you have to fight through the concussion only to get knocked down over and over again till your body gives out or luckily, the ref stops it.
Ufc is the evolution of combat sports where it’s honestly easier on the brain and you’re less likely to suffer serious brain damage in your later years.
Not the best of news but hey, as a society, we are improving.
You’re right. I find it funny that most of the fans would probably cry or get knocked out if they got punched in the face, yet they form opinions on a subject that they can’t personally relate to. It’s not just MMA though. Same thing happens in football, basketball, and other sports when fans say, “Oh I could’ve done that it’s not that hard.” Then why didn’t they? Lol. Toxic fans need serious help.
The point about training leading to CTE is so overlooked. Just like in football, it's typically not large impacts or single concussions, but the years of frequently repeated small-scale brain trauma that causes the big damage.
Exactly, it’s wild. Sports Science did a study on offensive and defensive lineman
I agree - there is currently a discussion on whether or not and how to train headers in soccer because of the possibility of repeated light trauma causing brain damage. If this is an issue in a sport like soccer you can tell how much more of an issue this is in MMA.
I played football from the time I was 8 years old to college I'm 38th and memory loss sensitivity to light mood swings depression ect
I can go to my sparring, do 90% of my work with guys I trust to not take my head off and I return the favor. Then you train with one 19 year old who doesn't, want to spar, just wants to scrap. He won't even land a clean shot, but getting blasted in my guard is enough to have head aches the next day
regional scene is brutal. kids are spending their fight purses on medical bills.. massive respect
This don’t apply here in Canada because healtcare is « free »
@Ali Abdelaziz u mad🤣
@Ali Abdelaziz not gonna lie i am not canadian, but i would brag about free health-care all the time if we had it in my country.
@Ali Abdelaziz idk the thought that your career in this sport is constantly under threat of medical bills is just kinda crazy to me.
@Ali Abdelaziz fucking bollocks 😂. Tax paid Healthcare > any other healthcare system an American could think of. And as for your hypothetical scenario there, horse shit. The stabbed man would ABSOLUTELY be attended to first. Subsidised for by a nations collective tax input. Don’t make up fallacies.
Great list, real honesty here. Honestly the Rebok deal was one of the most damaging things for fighters. Before they could control their own sponsors, line up their own deals and make their own money. Now they're just the same shit with UFC taking the big bag as usual. Many things could and should be fixed and heres to hoping.
they can still get deals on social media though
Yeah, UFC doesn't even have to worry about fighter pay. Just let the fighters have sponsors on their shorts, and they'll throw themselves into the cage win or lose.
@@1daboi100 but then the UFC doesent make as much money and they don’t want that lol
That's the biggest thing for me, as a fan, I want fighters to have the COLLECTIVE BARGAINING POWER of a UNION. They are worth so much more than they're limited to right now.
@@eLGiGaming peanuts
The number 1 uncomfortable truth about MMA:
Aikido is too dangerous for the sport, it’s why Steven Segal couldn’t compete. I mean, look what happened when he taught Lyoto Machida and Anderson Silva that front kick!
😂😂😂😂
Poor Vitor was on Sensei Segal's bad side.
There scared of what Segal would do to Francis
You heard of the Dagestani Handcuff?
Legend has it Sensei Segal challenged Khabib's dad in his hometown. After defeating Abdulmanap, Sensei Segal taught him the Dagestani Handcuff because he felt Sambo was such a inferior martial art to Akido.
Yeah, but everyone just keeps burying this truth. Why do you think Fox got Helwani fired from ESPN during Trump’s presidency. One word: Aikido paedophiles. Look into.
The head trauma is the scariest. What I hate most about MMA is when someone gets knocked tf out and the opponent keeps full on smashing his knocked out head, making it bounce up and down on the floor
really fucked me up seeing henderson throw that second punch after knocking bisping out cold and saying it was personal. if these people knew the damage they were doing there is no way cheap shots like that would be happening
@@Jay-mj1tpHendo admitting he did it on purpose just shows that these fighters usually know, it's not just adrenaline.. Apparently within the fight game, a lot of them want to damage their opponent to the point where they tell stories of how bad the repurcussions of the fight were/not remembering things/fully knocked out cold, etc. It's wild. Almost like making a name for themselves and how hard it will be for future challengers.
@@connorwagstaff2348 yeah the reality is that a lot of these guys are complete meatheads. I love the sport but damn so many fighters don’t seem to give a shit about the damage they’re suffering/cause. There’s no excuse for that nowadays, back in the 50s etc people didn’t know much and a lot of people fought bc they couldn’t do anything else. Nowadays there’s no way they don’t know about the long term health affects of head trauma, but so many of them choose to ignore all the data anyway
for everyone saying that you can't compare mma pay to other sports, keep in mind that the UFC shares 17% of its revenue with its fighters, whereas the NBA etc shares close to 40% with its players.
there needs to be an alterative or why pay more? UFC is like gladiator
There needs to be a powerful fighters union pushing for better pay like the NBAs players union
In years to come this will be much discussed and Dana will be remembered as a true tyrant. It’s incredibly sad but often these issues only really receive attention after the fact. Dana will not be remembered fondly - guaranteed.
No joke on the truth about brain damage. Watching Chandler/Gaethje, that fact kept running through my mind. It was for sure one of my favorite fights ever but it got hard to watch in the third round. The funny thing is, a lot of Gaethje's fights are like this (Alvarez comes to mind as well) and it starts to turn my stomach when I think about it too much.
That point made me think of the fight between Gaethje and Ferguson...the amount of power bombs Tony took to the face is just sending chills down my spine, combined with the fact that Khabib said that Gaethje hit like a fcking truck...oh man
Gaethje had a bit of a moment when he stopped doing his thing with just walking forward, walking through the punishment, but he seems to have taken it up again with his fights against Ferguson and Chandler, but how much longer can he keep doing that, and more importantly, what happens after that? Sure, he's awesome to watch, but damn, that has to take its toll.
Facts bro. Especially when you see guys like chandler just walking forward with no regard for defense. That shit is what scares me
@@Bwk-mj4pm why it scares YOU?
its fuckin fighting. Dont like it dont fuckin fight. Accept brain damage our get the fuck out
Roy Nelson is the only MMA fighter's Only Fans I want
It's the only one I have.😉
yes him and maichelle waterson
Dennis Seiver's OF is Too Hot to tlk about
@@Thomas-vd4hu Rachel ostrich or valeria louranda
A man of culture 👏
Not to disparage the other videos y'all have put out the last while but this was the best I've seen in some time. Proper introspection and an honest look in the mirror = proper love for the sport. Keep it up.
@Malus just because a video has opinions doesn’t mean it can’t be a good video lol. Do you only watch science videos?
Could’ve predicted a few of these but some I never thought about. Great work.
This is possibly the best MMA video that's ever been uploaded to TH-cam. It's not a conversation that's fun to have, but it's necessary. Everything you mentioned from the hyper sexualization of female fighters to the brain damage and the pay issues are topics that need to be addressed and fixed. Thanks for keeping it real!
"Hyper sexualization of famale fighters" needs to be addressed -----> Puss$
@@jp-dv7et Good use of the word, probably the only one you know considering you’ve probably never had any.
@@julioa.1349 Play with your guitar for them girls Julio the simp
No, it’s not. This video is wrong on UFC providing health insurance and covering fighter injuries. Fighters in the UFC have said they don’t get health coverage and they do have to pay for injuries.
> "hyper sexualising of female fighters"
Calm down Helen
"The young eat the old"
Glover Teixeira: Am I a joke to you?
Daniel Cormier and Randy Couture cheered him on
@Oodles of Noodles right. It's not as if Glover beat Jiri Prochazka or Aleksandar Rakic for that belt. Speaking of, Jiri Prochazka is going to dismantle Teixera in the spring...
@@misocriallo4379 and here comes the toxic fans trying to make thi joke about something it isn't haha
Nah dw Jiri is coming lol
Plant made more than the entire Usman card is an uncomfortable truth for a lot of people
Wtf damn how much did he make?
And didn't the Usman card outsell or nearly outsell the plant card?
@@TristanBehrens i think it missed plant canelo by like 100k buys.
@@majortom331 Thanks, I couldn't remember exactly but I remembered hearing something about it being relatively close
Its not going to change. Just take a look at how manny people praise Dana (UFC fans), he and the UFC did a good job making themselves the attraction out of the fighters, UFC fighters are replaceble goods,they can hype and promote the next Guy easily so they dont care.
Ask yourself why Dana hates de la Hoya so much, he represents all he fears, a top guy saying FU to the promoter and taking what he deserves.
But then again UFC is a company and unlike boxing, beign the UFC champ doesnt mean you are the best MMA fighter un a certain weight class
Good job guys! It's a MASSIVE reality check about the sport.
I know all about the brain damage. my grandfather was a professional boxer and towards the end of his life he remembered my dad, one of my two aunts, my grandmother and my great uncle who's his brother. he had no idea about who the rest of us were. it was sad to see. the saddest part is that even though he remembered my dad, he couldn't remember his name. my dad is a junior.
on the bright side, it was always a new experience for him and he was always very happy to find out he had grandchildren and that my dad had a motorcycle.
(edit, adding the bright side)
dementia is very common in the elderly, doenst need to have anything to do with concussions through your life. For example both my grandma and especially my grandfather were forgetting stuff all the time and my dad is currently showing early signs of dementia.
The concussion is no joke. Most fighters will experience some form of brain or neurological decease within their lifetime. Even hockey players get ALS when they're older. I thought MMA wasn't as brutal as something like boxing when it comes to brain damage until I watched GSP when he was interviewed in JRE. He said sometimes I look at the clock and it's like 7 am, Suddenly the clock turns to 2 pm in an instant and I don't remember anything. really scary.
gsp say the clock thing happend to him even when he was a kid
I think this was your best video to date! I assumed that from your first and second line "today we're gonna catch ourselves looking in mirror and its not gonna be pretty" that so many online warriors and half your fan base were gonna leave you 😂. But its the way you so elegantly explained these extremely hard truths with such grace and also supported by some undeniable facts that how can anyone dislike or deny anything you said? As an MMA fan we run across some of these topics all the time and man is it frustrating as shit trying to hammer some of these points home. Its damn near impossible. But anyway, this video is a classic. Love it. Now watch YT take it down 🤣
The cte thing is the most damning. I wish we knew more about the disease. Sure, it comes from getting hit in the head. But maybe someday there will be a way to prevent/treat it.
Cte stuff is the most worrying simply because we can't even diagnose it in living people yet. Once the diagnosis is there it's way easier to raise awareness and then get treatment but even treatment is a long way away, the brain is just too fragile.
The prevention is minimizing hits to the head during life in general.
@@Sir.Craze- Impossible in mma rn
There’s no way around brain damage/CTE if you’re competing in combat sports. You’ll have fighters that don’t exhibit negative symptoms of it but there’s no safe or good way to take repeated blows to the head. The best way I read it described is imagine your brain is floating in container of after water which is your skull, any quick impact to it will slam your brain to the sides of your skull, now imagine guys that eat 100 head shots in a fight, you can’t see it but their brain is battered inside.
@@deleqtronica8733 I majored in biology man, I get it. I'm just saying that maybe, in the future, there will be better diagnostic techniques/tools, better ways to prevent the disease, maybe even ways to treat it.
Dude called out the healthcare system, billionaires and the lack of money for most fighters. Cheers comrade, really well done video
that's a very american problem, not one of fighting sports in general.
@@s1nnocense it’s more than just America buddy
perfect allegory for the US
someone clearly doesn’t like America for most likely uneducated reasons
@@JelloTricks you’ve proving his point, we can’t even mention fair compensation or healthcare and u get offended 😭😭
I feel this, been my dream to be a MMA fighter. Trained my whole life and 2 fights in I need surgery to continue and don't have the money right now. Hopefully something turns around cause I had so much fun leading up to those fights.
Best of luck to you on your journey and I hope you find something that gives you that same level of fun again, even if it is unfortunately not through fighting
If you’re serious about your career try to move to the uk or somewhere with free healthcare
Im trynna fight too wasup I'm from Houston Texas 19 shit get at me sign me up !
@Texan White Panther never but im down w it shi I have never trained mma but im trynna start some
#1 is definitely why I feel uneasy as a fan of the sport. Watching a KO is exciting, but CTE is terrible especially since it can only be diagnosed postmortem and there is no treatment.
A masterpiece of a video. Strangely, the best mma video I’ve seen.
Been a huge fan for the sport for 20 years now. It takes time to see the flaws that you depicted so accurately.
The one thing for me that stand above it all was the Toothless media. They being more of a PR machine rather than journalism was super tight man.
Quite dystopian but so true.
Fuckin Dana white man.
It's really scary. If any one of the journalists said something about it, they would be banned, simple as that, career and the show over. Similarly if the fighters wanted to unionize, the first one to say it would be so crucified by Dana, mark my word, that no one else would dare afterwards. It's just shitty.
You have made an honest list that sadly I was aware of each issue. These were not secrets. Step One Honest Journalism. Great video!
What complicates the "they signed up for this" argument for things like fighter pay and brain health is the economic background of a lot of them. People love the "rags to riches" story, and it reflects the reality for many fighters. But if you grow up poor, you aren't particularly good at school, and there aren't a ton of decent paying jobs in your area, fighting can be one of your only options to build yourself a life, even moreso if you come from a rough neighborhood where you're getting dragged into fights anyway.
And while keeping that in mind, remember that we only see those who, to some extent, succeed. There are also hundreds, if not thousands, of kids with similar backgrounds who try to pull themselves up from the gutter through the fight game and end up with nothing but emptier pockets and accumulated brain damage.
Really appreciate the honesty. Brain damage happens throughout a lot of contact sports - there are stories of football and rugby players doing something completely insane and often it's due to brain damage. I love MMA but we need to take care of our stars, including paying them properly! 2K for a Bellator fight? Nuts!
Damn son, the fact that you chose to do a video on such a uncomfortable topic and covered it so thoroughly, props to you!
What a great list, Tommy! Really hard to swallow pills. Congrats!
Hasbulla said he’s waiting for the winner of Ngannou v Gane
Hasbulla picks apart Gane on the feet and has more power than Ngannou. He should probably try to pick fights with people on his level smh.
@@eman22017 Too bad Thanos is fictional
@@ayyaz3981 we still have Artem Lobov though
Hasbulla crawls up gane/ngannous ass and bursts out their stomach for the ko
@@dannymirjanovic8453 not to mention... In the 1st round
One of the things the UFC need to sort out is their gloves. There's a viable option there in Trevor Whittman's design, but because the UFC can't buy the whole design they aren't interested. Money > Fighters Health
It’s such an easy thing to fix compared to these other huge issues as well, but the ufc insist on using their terrible gloves and great fights get ruined by eye-pokes as a result.
The UFC doesn't care at this point.
Would you be able to grapple properly with those gloves though?
@@jordanrichardsonbjj4339 I'm no expert but surely if the UFC were willing to buy them then i'd think so
@@jordanrichardsonbjj4339 from what I understand from watching trevor whittman on the jre podcast, the ufc gloves kind of hold the fighters hand open with the fingers straight out while with trevor whittmans design the hand is just in a natural position which is ipen but not with fully extended fingers
This is why this is my favourite MMA channel by far. I've learned so much about MMA through you guys and you aren't afraid to talk about really tough things that as a new fan I'd not even thought of
honestly, im glad that this video came out. it was time for us to face the truth like how other sports do. kinda like bringing awareness in a sense. solid video
Another sad really is that we keep seeing legends fighting way past their prime. It was sad to see frank mir get destroy the other day and even is sad to see a guy like big foot get destroy every time that he steps into the octagon, ring or cage.
That's why I consider Khabib the greatest. He had awesome skills, but his most impressive accomplishment was walking away while still in his prime. I hope he stays retired.
it would be sad to see frank get sparked like that if he wasn’t guilty of the first problem on this list. it’s actually quite a happy sight
Imagine the heartaches we would have if we found out who all REALLY is on the juice. If Max or someone like Conor popped, as someone who’s invested so much time into them, maaaaaan it would leave me sour.
I honestly don't even care who actually is on PED's. Though the fact that they would be suspended/banned from fighting would suck. It really seems to be a game of who is the best at hiding it at this point.
Connor 100% is on roids look at his most recent picture he is huge i guarantee he uses epo and something similar to lose weight faster
@@smhgaming3259 EPO is not a diuretic mate
What a weird perspective this is entertainment if your not professionally affected by then popping then your weird go find another hobby
@@Enrique-peralta It’s naïveté man which is the whole reason why USADa exists is to keep up the appearances that all these guys are natural bc most of the fans wouldn’t respect them less if they found out they used peds bc it makes them almost superhuman.
IMO you could argue that the 4 GWOATs are Nunes, Shevchenko, Joanna, Cyborg. None of them made it there on sex appeal. There's only so long that a female fighter can get by on their looks if they don't have the wins to back it up - look at PVZ and Rachel Ostovich.
Facts, looks get you clicks on social media, skills get you the accolades
So essentially, MMA is experiencing issues that Pro-Wrestling experienced 15 years ago.
Basically. Dana White is a Great Value Vince McMahon
This channel has grown leaps & bounds over the years. I’ve been a subscriber from when ya’ll were in the 20,000 subscriber range. From the Tommy Toe Hold bits to now. This is really a channel I can suggest to a novice MMA fan to get there knowledge up quick. Million subs is coming boys!
One thing I really hate is knee-jerk reaction of mostly American MMA fans to defend UFC and Dana every time a question of fighter pay comes up as if it is an attack on their own identity
Aaaaaand there we go. I was waiting for this comment to show up.
How would you know where there from, do you have a tracker on every comment you see.
@Tony X huh?? In Canada & Chile lots of people are big fans
Whenever I hear one of those Americans I think about one of my favorite quotes “…the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
irs because Americans are successfully brainwashed into thinking getting paid less somehow makes everyone happier and makes it better. try talking to americans about universal healthcare, or unions. it’s a reactionary reaction because corporate overlords have successfully brainwashed the majority of the american public they don’t deserve better. so any attack or criticism regarding their coveted system is an attack to their being, because they’ve been told forever it is.
those i knew would be there :
- almost everyone is on steroids
- some fighters are horrible people
- female sexualization
those i'm glad you reminded me of:
- most end their career broke
- brain damages
Toxic fan base was my first thought...because it's so true lol.
@@Arnell_Mediocrity_Long yeah but I feel like it's true in most internet fandoms. That's why I barely care about that one lol
This was one of your best videos. As predicted the amount of dudes rushing to dismiss female fighters being sexualised was huge. Willful ignorance is astounding. This is why the online mma community is so full of shit. Thank you for pointing these important truths out.
Waaaaah waaaaah waaaaah lot of these chick's don't want to actual finish fight, no ones interested in watching boring male decision fighter, why would a women be treated any different if your not exciting your not going anywhere, but women tears are so moving to a man they lose rational thinking
@@Enrique-peralta
Stephanie Frausto (Zoila's younger sister) has a video on instagram where she echos a similar sentiment.
Will have to agree that female fighters get sexualized cos a huge portion of the fan base are perverted af. BUT they(female fighters ) also make it their job to contribute to their sexualization , only fans, sexy pics etc. I just think it’s a sword sharp on both ends. Perhaps a bit shaper on the male fan tip
@@rudynuts for reeeal! 😂 like honestly bro tell us you're an incel without telling us you're an incel 🤣🤣
I recognize the truly harsh reality that all fighters are suffering irreparable damage. And it’s really sad. Max for example… every time a fight is booked, you can’t help but think.. man he’s got a kid and he’s about to walk in there and take a lot of punishment. It’s crazy.
They're so right about the media in this sport. I started watching mma as a teen and even I could immediately tell that they basically just let Dana control the narrative and never push him on any stupid thing he says
Ye just recently saw icarus after Joes episode with MPMD and I'm now more inclined to believe the Diaz bros
When I Saw it years ago it blew my fucking mind. Everyone is on Steroids
Its scary to think how badly damaged the brains of the likes of Chandler, Max, Lawler, Gaethje, Poirier, Guida, Alvarez, Nate Dias and many others who been in a few wars in their careers
I swear, Diaz, man. That's gonna be sooo sooo sad to see him old one day. He took soo much.
Nate is already punch drunk.
Here's one - the MMA fanbase will support and cheer exciting fighters (the stand-and-bang brawlers) and yet also mock these fighters for suffering the consequences of that style of fighting, i.e. CTE.
I wanna become a fighter been thunk about it I know risk
Just for some perspective on fighter's pay, the UFC pays about 18% of their total revenue to their fighters, Bellator pays between 40-50% and strikeforce reportedly pays 60+%.
@Oodles of Noodles Not necessarily, the vast majority of them are earning crumbs, the ones who earn "more" as you put it are the stars like Mcgregor, Nate, Adesanya, Masvidal etc. These guys should even be getting paid more than what they currently earn.
Most sports leagues spend 25-35% of there revenue on their athletes btw, 18% is being mega cheap
Some of these really hits on me 🎯 since I'm a fighter with a career of 7 years and didn't make it to the big leagues, I have paid hundreds of therapy rehabilitations and after this knee injury... Literally my money goes to my knee and I don't know if I ever will be able to fight again... Ouch 🤕
the two greatest female athletes in Nunes and Cyborg don't sexualize themselves and they're generally the least popular females despite their skill.
Both of those 2 are extremely popular. Valentina doesn't sexualise herself and she's beloved by all. PVZ was popular for being hot but she also got a lot of shit for caring more about her Instagram than she did about her training. So let's not pretend PVZ or Rachel were the most beloved female fighters of all time and nobody cares about Val or Nunes.
No one cares about their fights because they're never any interesting. Basically the only interesting fight at women's 145 would be the two of them put together.
You can only watch a one-sided beating so many times before it gets uninteresting. Add that to the fact that they don't have any sort of interesting persona, or even an interesting fighting style, and what's there to watch? An outmatched woman getting slaughtered? Seen it, like a dozen times already.
Honestly kinda surprised that the stuff said during the live chats were mentioned. Props to y'all for pointing out that abhorrent stuff though.
Rip Joe Rogan!
If you make fun of fighters for getting knocked out and harass them about it online and just genuinely don't respect fighters for what they do for us, you are not a real fan. You should never root for somebody to lose in MMA. These men and women put their lives on the line to entertain us and if you are too small minded to realize that then this community doesn't need you. These people deserve the utmost respect whether or not you like them personally. You don't understand the sacrifices it takes to be a fighter.
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Except for Jon Jones.
If he died in the cage it'd go to far, but anything less...
@@hhiippiittyy ok fair play i agree its okay to root against that scum bag lol
@@hhiippiittyy he doesnt count lol first time i'm ever rooting for someone to get their head sent into orbit is in his debut at HW. hoping Francis beats Gane just so i can see francis take jon's head off and finally humble him.
Dope to see Derek (more plates more dates) on here as well!
Big up RSK
Even when a fighter does get knocked out, you can see the back of their head hit the floor hard. So even more damage done despite the fight being over.
One of the best videos you guys ever made. Really gives you a reality check
Yeah, they don't fact check a high announcer, before using his clips to disparage fighters. TJ's retest for the Cody fight came back clean, but they didn't bother to check because a high Rogan could NEVER misremember something. Lost a lot of respect for them when I saw they used that clip.
The bit about journalists having to play softball with the UFC to even get press access is 100% legit and really depressing.
Sad truth is fighters don't get a fair share of the profits. Woodley made more money boxing once than his entire mma career.
More props to Derrick from more plates more dates being featured, for a few seconds here! So proud of this guy!
That was such an incredibly good video, it’s a rare thing covering this topic. Well done!
Every single sport that isn't gear-oriented will leave your body broken in some way. While brain damage is by far the scariest, let's not dismiss all the backs and joints that get shredded in other sports.
Man just training for a hobby is hell. Wrestling all thru grade school didn't do half as much in a decade as a few years at my mma gym. My last injury broke my big toe getting it stuck in a boxing glove thumb, the kind with the thumb tip that's sewed to the glove.
While this is true, a (rich) person can have a perfectly enjoyable long life with a f***ed back or knee. However you can have all the fame and money in the world but brain damage can make the rest of your life hell.
@@nicholasdonin1465 how
@@LeArmBoss a blocked kick. But still about as likely as winning the lotto
Glad they pointed out the toxic fan base
MMA on Point back with another banger as always! Congartz on almost 900k subs!
It's the first time I heard such empathy from a youtube page dedicated to the sport. And yes, all of those things are topics one is aware of, but just pushes to the back of the mind. But it is genuinely sad.
one of the best narrators anywhere, hands down, the controlled energy your narration brings to mma content is perfect
Something that makes me cringe is when mma fans say every fight is a "🔥🔥banger" when all main events are the most important fight in the history of the division or in the UFC, when the social media fighters are calling out all the roster and ppl is like "OMG 😱😱😱 this fight will happen for sure😱😱😱" and that fight never happen or when before a fight start we see the same video with the same words just with different fighters "i know i'm better than him" "i'm the best in the world" "i will knock him out" "it will be a violent fight" pay attention and is always the same.
Fact
Great introspective list. We need to keep these facts in mind.
Wait, you're telling me that women are sexualised more than men?
HOLD THE PRESSES!
Water is wet!! The sky is blue!!! Mass hysteria!!
Sean Sherk retired "Without a penny" and had to set up his own business.
He even gave interviews and the like to try and raise awareness of fighters saving their purses/planning for retirement.
#7 is what honestly keeps me being just someone who can appreciate a good MMA fight instead of being a full-fledged diehard fan. Yes, as Tommy stressed, there are undoubtedly plenty of good, honest people in the world of MMA. But it just sucks that _so many_ top fighters can’t seem to keep themselves out of trouble. Like it’s not just Jones and Conor. It’s them plus about 50 others in every division who make you feel gross for liking how they fight.
Weight cutting is also insane
Sexualization in MMA is the number one way to spot a casual. It's repulsive when dudes at bars start making sexual jokes during female fights, awful for the sport.
Stop simping.
@@scottmescudi3423 Casual
@@scottmescudi3423 we’re talking about you.
So repulsive that man like woman omg
Lol
Those people hate straight people i swear.
Lol let a couple dudes start yelling for guys to kiss each other or tear each other shorts off. Then let me know if thats cool with you. Its just respect.
Loved this video. Last few points especially but yeah sexualization of female fighters is so prevalent. Ofc Paige Vanzant and Rachel Ostovich, non champs who are popular for their looks. Feels bad for other fighters with far more potential but who didn’t have genetics on their side
Felice who was shown in the interview, also had onlyfans
@@werdumed6665 quite a few have OF accounts. It's just a way to make ends meet for female fighters. Say that sex sells and that's true. You don't need the sex to win fights. Just win fights and the opportunity comes to you. Especially when you consider how thin the female ranks are.
@@TheStormbringer8751 asking women not to get hung up on looks and get jealous of better looking women getting more opportunities is like asking your girl to admit she's wrong in an argument, just not happening.
@chris mcd All of their speech is a dyslexic reading of reality to legitimize the anti-capitalist narrative, it's always the same thing.
I saw a comment in this same video where the guy said that women fighters think it's better to sexualize to have more visibility and money, which is a female privilege, rarely does a man get that, and that it's men's fault, when in fact they who take advantage of the UFC cloud to earn more money selling their bodies because most of them are terrible fighters, and because they are not able to succeed in the sport because they are bad, they choose to get rich by prostituting themselves.
People like this are needed so that things can change so big up u guys show way more care to the sport than just accepting money to be a “journalist”
2:58 "experts estimated that 4-39% of pro athletes dope"
Glad the experts could clear that up for us with a guess ranging a 35% difference
Probably the most important video you guys have ever made. Well done.
CTE can only be diagnosed on autopsy.
This was an amazing video though. As fans, we kind of owe it to the fighters to push for better pay. We've seen what happens when the fighters themselves try to do it and it's never nice for the fighters.
Not sure what we can do except check out other MMA promotions.
There are actually ways to detect it in a living person now
@@reservoirfrogs2177 huh, just googled what CTE was because I had no clue and Google said it can only be diagnosed on autopsy by looking at the brain. I do believe you btw, and that's definitely a good thing for fighters health.
@@reservoirfrogs2177really??
Absolutely love the callout of the trolls. Anonymity is a real bitch when it comes to a lack of consequences for your actions. Not enough people commenting remember that it's an actual person on the other end. But then again, that doesn't even seem to matter in person anymore.
@Malus Their point still stands.
@Malus Yeah, victim blaming isn't okay. Just because someone else's opinion differs from yours doesn't give you the right to treat them poorly. There are exceptions, but the vast majority of the time it's just unwarranted and cruel.
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This is one of the most informative and honest opinion on MMA the fact that you get the info even when they cover these problems up
A lot of MMA fans are super fair weather, too. They LOVE a fighter until that fighter loses, then suddenly they always hated that fighter. Fans turn on their 'favorites' SO quick.
Number 9 isn't an MMA problem it's a the u s needs universal healthcare like every other "rich" country or stop calling yourselves a rich country, if you're that rich take care of your citizens
No one does it like Tommy...great list of uncomfortable truths.
This is by far the best video I've seen on this channel! A very special thanks to you regarding the toothless media. This has been an inconvienient truth for a very, very long time!
I agree!
Dude, the Toxicity of the fan base is ridiculous. I get that there’s a lot of testosterone flowing, but some people are just obsessed with hate and it gets so old.
That - both content and production - was very good. Thanks
I saw Lawal vs Kerr live. Broke my heart
Whoa, Tommy went hard on this post. Ripped off the band aid
That felice just herrig interview is one of the saddest things I’ve seen in my life, she feels like no matter what she does she’ll never be marketable. Female fighters don’t nearly get the respect they deserve, they work just as hard as male fighters and are always being told how masculine and unattractive they are in the comments. I can’t imagine what that’d do to a person. Jesus, y’all act like you can’t be nice to anyone unless you get something for doing so.
Yet she also has an onlyfans
It's sad that they feel that way, but the reality of the situation is female sports in general are not as entertaining to watch, so you need to be something special in order to stand out. There's a reason why women's sports do much worse in ratings and profits earned, and it's not because everyone is a sexist monster.
@@werdumed6665 Because onlyfans is the only way to make cash.
Bro she's got Onlyfriends to stop simping.
I don't condone misogyny against men or women, so it would be great if people chilled on that behavior, but there is a level of attention to physical beauty that is normal and won't change. My advice to women fighters is to be confident with what you got and lean into it. if you're sexy be the sexiest, if you're a dork be the dorkiest and if you're an orc, be the ...orciest(?). there's a market and audience for all of them if they're confident and proud enough in their own skin. Winning fights helps too
I've watched 3 of your videos now and the amount of stuff I've learned about ufc and mma is amazing
I’m so happy y’all raise attention to #4. It’s written off a lot and not actually given thought and discussion. Great video ❤️
i completely understand women fighters wanting to have their skill count for more than how sexy they are/aren't,although some like Felice Herrig do use that sex appeal for profit even after fighting and believe me i have absolutely no problem with Felice taking sexy pics or for wanting her talent to be the main reason she has an mma career,yet when you do those pics on a regular basis any and everyone who would be attracted to you will show that support no matter what else you do, tho in fairness i think our community does a great job of balancing out respecting women and entertaining their sexiness,we should too bc we're adults nobody should be defined by only one aspect of their lives good or bad
👏 well said!
If Rose never cut her hair she'd be the sexiest female champion
While you do make a very valid point, I think female fighters that lean into sexualising themselves benefit from it more than they suffer. There is still a meritocracy of sorts amongst female fighters; you still have to win at the end of the day. Fighters like PVZ and Rachel Ostevich were not as great a fighter compared to the ranked fighters. Even if we disregard the monetary gains more attractive female fighters make outside of fighting we also have to acknowledge that there have been attractive female fighters that were given more opportunities on fight cards due to their marketability.
same thing happened with Sage Northcutt
Valentina honestly most likely makes more money than PVZ or Ostavich despite not sexualizing yourself. Why? Because she wins fights. People complain about female fighters over sexualizing themselves. Once they start losing fights. If you're winning and selling sex. That's one thing. If you're losing and selling sex. Get off Instagram. Get in the Gym.
Love this channel! Calling it like it is and being real but sincere.
Always followed the quality content because underneath the good production and great narration, the staff always seemed truly modest and relatively progressive and fair about their points.
And I gotta say, the point for the over-sexualization of women’s MMA in this video was pretty risky point to mention (although it’s just true) when most of us are guys watching this video.
This channel is using their credibility with its fan base and viewers to be honest with themselves and be more self-aware of our shortcomings.
Keep it up!
Excellent list, the beat you've done in a long time, kudos for including the regional scene and exploration of female fighters...excellent list
I love how you add humor to this here and there. It’s honestly fucking hilarious
Excellent topic for a video, I know we all love this sport because its awesome to watch and follow but the knife cuts both ways. Hopefully this will help people in the MMA fan community grow and learn. Recently had to sit through a small MMA events live stream and holy shit the comments section was infuriating. No one was talking about the fights it was all vitriol and negative shit. Love each other and enjoy things together, don't be an ass and most importantly, just bleed.
Speaking of toxic fan base. The mma twitter community being obsessed with which fighter blocked them on twitter is corny and cringy but 90% of the people i see under the comments think its cool and a merit badge.
I recently had a mild TBI with skull fracture and brain bleed. Not cool losing cognitive ability. That's a tough trade off for these guys
Have you recovered at all?
Man, that's an honest and important 10min-video. Hit almost any point, definitely something every MMA-fan should watch.
really appreciate this video. as someone who enjoys watching fights but cant seem to engage with the sport's fanbase as a whole because they're just toxic, good to see a lot of the shitty aspects called out on a popular channel.