FWIW, Eddie sprayed his black first, then taped it off and sprayed the white. This was the black and white Strat he used earlier on. A couple years later he taped it up again and sprayed the red, and this became the Frankenstein most people know.
I was not aware of that; thanks for the info. This way seems like it will be a bit easier, but then again. I don't intend to wait a couple years between colours haha.
While that is true first white, eddie didn't like people coping his frankinstrat. The original was just black with white pained on it, you can find picture of that strat. Later he painted it red with schwinn paint i think. He based the lines on guitar off another guitarist guitar, even did the jumping leap that guitarist did.
While It is slightly the wrong order of taping, the spirit is really doing your own thing. Thats what Eddie was all about, being original! Plus thanks so much for all of these videos, it’s beyond helpful and relaxing too haha I’m starting a Frankenstein paint job in a couple days, onto a black Wolfgang standard body and headstock, doing it a neon color theme for something wild, using all the techniques I learned from you 🤞🤘I’ll try and get you some pics of the finished product, you can tell what to do better next time! Thanks again man, and continue the great content! 👏🎸🔥🎯
good stuff mate ! looking forward to part 2 ! i tried to do a contour of a BC rich guitar in silver, but when i removed the tape it took away all the shine from the paint and didn't leave a smooth surface .... so definitely looking forward to part 2 !
Brad Angove quite a long time , my projects are very slow ^^ in a crimson guitar video he mentioned to use 3M vinyl tape and not the paper tape kind ... maybe thats where I went wrong
That's a bit odd. Sometimes paint peels off if there are adhesion issues. Maybe try taking some of the "stickiness" off the tape by putting it on your shirt a couple times before sticking it to the paint. Vinyl tape tends to stick more aggressively.
i've repainted my guitar about 6 times, though I've only now seen that i shouldn't paint the neck pocket, could be why the setup is so bad. though when i first took it apart it had paint there. Would you recommend sanding it down to bare wood in there?
If your neck still fits in there snuggly it shouldn't be a huge issue. The only real concern then is the alignment between the neck and the bridge. If you're getting fret buzz, one possible cause could be a paint buildup affecting the angle (or possibly height) of the neck. Sanding or scraping it down a bit at a time until the alignment is good might be a worthwhile option.
Alright perfect, thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Gotta say you're my favorite "how to" channel, aright cheers bud. Again thanks for the help.
Hey buddy, your videos are fantastic. You've really helped me with my technique and understanding. My paint jobs are at an excellent level now, thanks to you. Many many thanks for making these videos, truly appreciate and enjoy them. Cheers from Ireland 👍
yes, but instead of putting down a single piece of tape to make a stripe, you would now have to tape of weird shapes to leave the stripes. Yes it can be done. it just requires more effort and tape. EVH painted it black, then white, then red. So technically you should make a black guitar, mask it and paint white. Then after making a white guitar with black stripes. You mask it again and paint it red. You did a fine job, just saying that painting white then red is better.
Your're great!!! I've got a question if you don't mind: I'll buy a new guitar soon, that has a horrible satin gray colour (I'm left handed and basically I've no choice), so what if I'll sand the body like you did in the first part of this video and then spray it with an acrylic enamel matte black to turn the satin gray into a matte black, somewhat like you did in the "How to turn gloss paint matte or satin" video? It'll work and it would be good even if I won't remove the original paint? Thanks!
I might have missed it, but what is the best paint to use after scuffing up the factory clear coat? I'm assuming Fender Squier uses a polyurethane clear coat?
The exact paint that Eddie used according to a video I saw of Eddie explaining the paint job, was Schwinn bicycle paint, he started with a black guitar, taped it off painted it white, then taped it off again and painted red.
Is it possible to spray paint an electric guitar with the electronics,pickups and tremelo still installed if covered with masking tape?i dont really want the hastle of sorting the electronics out again
i like that work it is gonna help me lot! thanks mate! can you please give us link about all staff that you used? or just comment names of them we can search for it
Have a look at the amazon link in the description of my newer videos for the 2K clear. The rest is just rustoleum painters touch paint and 3M masking tape.
when i messaged ya a while ago about stripping down, sanding down my old warlock bass, this is what i was talking about, except i'm i'm having artwork drawn/painted on mine. looking forward to how you have the taped edges all blended and equal with frankenstrat style
I have a guitar that looks just like that, and I did the first step, sanding with 600 grit, but it looks hazy and scratchy, not just flat black like yours. Can you think of what I did wrong? Thanks for answering.
You didn’t do anything wrong. That’s probably just the camera for the most part making mine look matte. It will always look hazy after a sanding at that grit.
how sweet it shall be \m/ i'm doing a few guitars when it warms up i have to wait until then cuz i work on my balcony i'll be doing a bass lemon yellow with black hw, i'll be doing my bc rich zombie white and it has black hw as well, and lastly i got a new warlock and i'm gonna do a classic tiger orange/black stripes. I'm using water based acryllics again. Any suggestions for the clearcoat? i used the miniwax gloss poly as my clear-coat last time, but it left an amber look to it, and i'd like to avoid that and have a clear gloss clear-coat this time cuz the amber would really show on those brighter colors . Also i'm looking to foam-brush it on, cuz i don't have or want to buy a respirator to spray it on.
There may be an acrylic that will give a more clear look, but most clear coats darken the finish a little. I don't really do a lot of brush on finishes. I think there are some "crystal clear" brush on finishes that I was looking at at home depot a while back.
Brad Angove ya, so after doing black acrylic, looked good, then tape and whitepaint, still good, but after i put the red coat on, the black lines showed under the red. i'm guessing i was hasty and should have done another coat another day. gonna turn it into a click but the next one i do i'm gonna use a proper evh stencil. But would you say it's ok to use Montana Acrylic Black Rustoleum white paint plus primer ( i know at this stage it doesn't require paint and primer i just grabbed the flat white paint) and lastly Rustoleum 2X red gloss. that's. my triple combo thoughts? cheers and love the vids
+D'sBalls you should be able to get away with using the rustoleum painters touch and the Montana gold together, but it's a bit risky. Sometimes mixing like that can cause crazy cracking. I would try to stick within the same brand and type if you can.
when I sand my guitar to scuff it up is it OK that there are scratch marks all over the guitar from the sandpaper? is the normal and will it go away after painting it?
Jake Gyllenhaal teaching me how to prep a guitar for spraying..... THERE IS A GOD! im gonna make a FrankenDarko strat now... Black, Grey and Blue just for you DONNIE!
How would you do line work with nitro paints? Would you just quickly apply the tape to nitro, do the paint, remove the tape let it dry, then clear over it with nitro lacquer?
@@BradAngove okay, so I’m wanting to do a recreation of James Hetfields Gibson iron cross, and it’s black, with a gold racing stripe down the left side of the guitar, what would be the best steps for this!? Tape of the body where the gold stripes would be, then spray black. remove the tape, wait for the black to cure, then apply tape over the black, then paint the gold race stripe and then remove that tape? Let the paints cure for a few days or week a bit then apply clear over that?
+The Gaming Ghost You'll need to seal the wood first. Have a look at the first or second video in my series on finishing a guitar with behlen's guitar finishing kit if you want some info on that step (can't remember if it's the first video or the second one).
Pro tip...always use a wax/degreaser before sanding. If the surface is contaminated to begin with you will just drive it further in when sanding making it more difficult to prep before spraying.
Is there. ReSon ppl are using masking tape instead of painters tape? Seems painters tape if the way to go, but am I missing something or is it not a big deal, btw, day 3, still sanding, going through lots of sandpaper
Hey Brad, thanks for the video's, I am doing a EVH Striped paint job now and your plan sure helps! I am starting with the Black, but will do the White next, then finish with the Red and Clear. All in Enamel Paint. One thing I noticed in your video's in this series is that you scuff the paint between colors, but not when applying a second coat of the same color? I forgot to scuff the Black before putting on the first coat of White. Oops! Or does it matter that much? I will scuff each layer a little until finish just to make sure. Again, thanks bro!
+b4096 I scuff any time I'm not able to recoat within a 10-15 minute window. If you recoat within the appropriate flash off time, the next coat will bond chemically. If you have to wait, for example to be able to apply tape, then you need to scuff so that the next layer can bind mechanically.
FYI... the function of your "conductive paint" as shielding would work either as a topcoat or buried under other paint.. the idea is to block signal leakage.. so masking it means absolutely nothing unless you are planning to use it to actually pass a signal.. then you would want to contact it directly... in this case as shielding... any ground connected anywhere will do... the rest can be painted.. and if you're staying true to a Frankenstrat look... the cavities were painted... not shielded with copper or any other tape.. nor painted with conductive paint..
Hey brad when I finished with my paint, it's not a hard finish, but it's soft which could easily be dented by a finger nail, it wasn't what I was expecting and I could feel the layers of paint stacking on top of each other! Can you help me? Much appreciated. I am having a hard time
Thank you for responding Here it is in order Scuff the finish by scotch pad, Apply the white + primer rustolium paint on 1 hour between each coat(3 coats) Wait over night Scuff the guitar Mask the guitar ready to spray black rustolium Sprayed 3 coats of rustolium 20min between each coats Waited over night Take the tape off Scuff the body to take off the gloss of the black paint Put on masking tape for the red coat Sprayed the red coat 20 min between each Waited overnight Take the tape off and scuff the red gloss Sprayed the gloss rustolium 3 times 20 min between And that's it I haven't done anything since and the paint is not harden, rather is soft and easily dent by finger nails small pressure And it still smell like paint
Sounds like your clear hasn't cured properly. Did you have any problems with paint lifting when you removed your tape? Also, how long has it been since you finished painting it?
Brad Angove it has been 2 days and there was no paint peeling off when taking tape off, but the body now is very easily scratched off by a pick going under it
If there other paint didn't peel than it seems relatively clear that it's just the clear that's the problem. It might have gone on a bit too heavy or something. You'll probably have to sand back through it in order to fix the issue.
Great video, II know you have said you are not going for an exact replica, however, for anyone that IS going for an exact replica, please do your self a favor and do it like Eddie did. Does NOT make sense from a color palate, however he started with Black, masked and painted white, and then masked (along with some weird squiggle patterns) and painted 1 more time. There is also a mysterious pale blue color on the back, that was unintentional and was picked up from something Eddie laid the guitar on when it was wet. Also, there are some random bicycle reflectors (1 broken intentionally I believe) and I THINK a 1977 quarter that has no function that I can recall by the Floyd rose. The center cavity is a 5 position pickup selector that is NOT wired and the top pickup is also not wired. This is a great video and I wish I had not bought a guitar blank to start from scratch on....and had to primer from the ground up. Still in the process right now, but I love the video and stopped in for a little painting advice... :)
You’ll need to follow the beginning portions of the painting process first. I have a bunch of videos and guitar kit build series that show ways to do it.
This is great if your goal is a Van Halen inspired paint job. But by no mean should this be used as a reference to produce an accurate pattern and color layering... For extremely accurate reference, find Johnny B Guitars frankenstrat series... you will see the seriously in depth details that are literally required to be even close to accurate... Your guitar is pretty cool.
Would be easier...white, red then black ..painted a tool box and a strat body...tool box was red...tons of masking..on the guitar I started with the white...was way easier and with the contour the lines were less of a..to have straight tape lines. Just a tip. Rip evh.
You are absolutely incorrect. The stripes interweave in a very specific pattern that can only be replicated by doing the paint in the sequence I noted above.
Hahaha well, I made it pretty clear that I wasn’t trying to replicate the design exactly, so I guess the conversation is moot and the initial comment was pointless. Onward I guess.
The entire point of the frankenstrat paint job was that it was an imprecise pattern. You’re welcome to try to emulate it perfectly if you want, but the same concept applies, the tutorial still shows how a frankenstrat paint job is done, and there are tons of different “frankenstrat paint jobs” in various colours. Even EVH had a few different ones. Don’t be ridiculous.
This is what NOT to do when you are doing your Ed guitar.... You dont want to paint over the clear coat...The tone of this guitar is completely ruined now. Always start with bare wood....
You’re laboring under a very old misconception. The tone of this guitar is no different than if it had no paint on it at all. Have a look at some of the modern testing on the subject before making assertions.
As a subscriber who has watched countless TH-cam videos on painting (I like doing guitars and football helmets) I can honestly say Brad is not an amateur, very professional in production, explanation and responding to questions. The only problem I see is all professionals get paid, he does it free for us...
Its painful to watch all the small errors he makes while spraying this paint... For instance, touching the body with his sweaty fingers AFTER he degreased it, and watching him not painting off what's called the "wet edge", or the fact that he neither primed the body OR layed a tack coat... if you're a painter you know what I'm talking about...
As you can see, the minor contact I made with the body after degreasing had no effect. The wet edge works a bit differently with spray cans. Watch closely, you may learn something from how I work with it in this video. There is no reason to primer a pre-sealed body in this case. Primer assists with adhesion on metal and often plastic. It’s not helpful over a prior paint job like this. There’s also no need for a tack coat on an acrylic paint. I use one on my urethanes. I imagine you’re in the automotive industry. I’ve done that as well. There are some differences. Thanks for your comment though.
That's not the way you do it you start out with a black guitar you paint the guitar black first then you tape up what you want to keep black and then you paint the entire guitar White and then without removing any of that tape you tape off what you want to keep white and then paint the entire guitar red then you take off all the tape you're you're screwed up
FWIW, Eddie sprayed his black first, then taped it off and sprayed the white. This was the black and white Strat he used earlier on. A couple years later he taped it up again and sprayed the red, and this became the Frankenstein most people know.
I was not aware of that; thanks for the info. This way seems like it will be a bit easier, but then again. I don't intend to wait a couple years between colours haha.
Only real fans no that
While that is true first white, eddie didn't like people coping his frankinstrat. The original was just black with white pained on it, you can find picture of that strat. Later he painted it red with schwinn paint i think. He based the lines on guitar off another guitarist guitar, even did the jumping leap that guitarist did.
@@christopherspohn8071who?
While It is slightly the wrong order of taping, the spirit is really doing your own thing. Thats what Eddie was all about, being original! Plus thanks so much for all of these videos, it’s beyond helpful and relaxing too haha I’m starting a Frankenstein paint job in a couple days, onto a black Wolfgang standard body and headstock, doing it a neon color theme for something wild, using all the techniques I learned from you 🤞🤘I’ll try and get you some pics of the finished product, you can tell what to do better next time! Thanks again man, and continue the great content! 👏🎸🔥🎯
Thank you so much fir these videos. I appreciate it because. I know it takes a lot of time and effort..
Thank you Tim, and thanks for watching.
Hey Brad, you have a really deep, almost blood red color happening and I love it. What brand/color red is that?
That’s just one of rustoleum’s standard reds. I can’t recall the name specifically; it’s been quite a while.
Well done Elvis 👍
Thanks Nixon!
thxs m8 for the help doing a axe for my buddy doesn't have to be perfect by any means all in fun...Ty
What paint did u use
Gonna do this for my 16th birthday for a summer project on my yamaha pacifica
Will the 800 grit sooth out any sections where paint may be heavy or have run a bit?
+D'sBalls It will if you're careful to sand those sections back evenly.
When is the best time to peel off the masking? Should i wait until it fully cures or begin peeling it off after an hour or two?
I like to do it sooner rather than later for colour masking, and wait for a full cure for clear masking.
This video well explode I expect. ......thanks bud rock on. ..
Thanks man
good stuff mate ! looking forward to part 2 ! i tried to do a contour of a BC rich guitar in silver, but when i removed the tape it took away all the shine from the paint and didn't leave a smooth surface .... so definitely looking forward to part 2 !
How long did you let it dry before you put the tape on initially?
Brad Angove quite a long time , my projects are very slow ^^ in a crimson guitar video he mentioned to use 3M vinyl tape and not the paper tape kind ... maybe thats where I went wrong
That's a bit odd. Sometimes paint peels off if there are adhesion issues. Maybe try taking some of the "stickiness" off the tape by putting it on your shirt a couple times before sticking it to the paint. Vinyl tape tends to stick more aggressively.
What kind of tape tacking do you use for the paint job? Especially over lacquer paint....
I just use painters tape or regular masking tape usually.
i've repainted my guitar about 6 times, though I've only now seen that i shouldn't paint the neck pocket, could be why the setup is so bad. though when i first took it apart it had paint there. Would you recommend sanding it down to bare wood in there?
If your neck still fits in there snuggly it shouldn't be a huge issue. The only real concern then is the alignment between the neck and the bridge. If you're getting fret buzz, one possible cause could be a paint buildup affecting the angle (or possibly height) of the neck. Sanding or scraping it down a bit at a time until the alignment is good might be a worthwhile option.
Alright perfect, thanks for getting back to me so quickly. Gotta say you're my favorite "how to" channel, aright cheers bud. Again thanks for the help.
Brad question. If I use Matt basecoats do I still need to scuff the surface before clear?
Yes, you still should.
Hey buddy, your videos are fantastic. You've really helped me with my technique and understanding. My paint jobs are at an excellent level now, thanks to you. Many many thanks for making these videos, truly appreciate and enjoy them. Cheers from Ireland 👍
Thank you! I'm very glad to hear that you've found the videos useful and that they've worked out for you.
Starting with a red guitar would be very difficult to mask
You would just reverse mask all the lines, and then fill in the gaps. That's kind of what I did to apply the white anyway.
yes, but instead of putting down a single piece of tape to make a stripe, you would now have to tape of weird shapes to leave the stripes. Yes it can be done. it just requires more effort and tape. EVH painted it black, then white, then red. So technically you should make a black guitar, mask it and paint white. Then after making a white guitar with black stripes. You mask it again and paint it red. You did a fine job, just saying that painting white then red is better.
+Jerry Wawak Well, if that’s how EVH did it, it must be the best way.
@@WawakGuitar actually, the original was made from his white guitar with black stripes on first album cover. He then added red later to that guitar.
@@markcoleman3370 I know, that is why I said starting with a red guitar would be difficult.
What is your recommendation if you get drip marks? Can you sand it down in places and respray?
Yes. You can even sand flat and just move to the polishing stages.
How long did you wait between the 1st and 2nd coat of red, Brad? 10 mins?
Yes, probably 10-15 minutes.
Your're great!!! I've got a question if you don't mind: I'll buy a new guitar soon, that has a horrible satin gray colour (I'm left handed and basically I've no choice), so what if I'll sand the body like you did in the first part of this video and then spray it with an acrylic enamel matte black to turn the satin gray into a matte black, somewhat like you did in the "How to turn gloss paint matte or satin" video? It'll work and it would be good even if I won't remove the original paint? Thanks!
That should be fine.
@@BradAngove good, thanks!
I might have missed it, but what is the best paint to use after scuffing up the factory clear coat? I'm assuming Fender Squier uses a polyurethane clear coat?
They use some form of poly I believe. The best rule of paint depends on what kind of finish you want.
The exact paint that Eddie used according to a video I saw of Eddie explaining the paint job, was Schwinn bicycle paint, he started with a black guitar, taped it off painted it white, then taped it off again and painted red.
Is it possible to spray paint an electric guitar with the electronics,pickups and tremelo still installed if covered with masking tape?i dont really want the hastle of sorting the electronics out again
Possible - yes. But I really don’t recommend it.
i like that work it is gonna help me lot! thanks mate!
can you please give us link about all staff that you used? or just comment names of them we can search for it
Have a look at the amazon link in the description of my newer videos for the 2K clear. The rest is just rustoleum painters touch paint and 3M masking tape.
The series is amazing, Gonna use this has reference when I paint mine. Also it's kinda soothing to watch this? Weird I know.
+Blockaid40409 I'm glad you like it, and I hope yours goes well.
Great Channel! To bad I found it one day late! 🍻🍻
Oh no!
Hey I sanded the black finish a bit off as you said with 600 grid sanding paper but now the body has scratches all over it. What did I did wrong?
Probably nothing. Those will go away when you clear coat if they’re just the 600 grit sandpaper scratches.
when i messaged ya a while ago about stripping down, sanding down my old warlock bass, this is what i was talking about, except i'm i'm having artwork drawn/painted on mine. looking forward to how you have the taped edges all blended and equal with frankenstrat style
Thanks Brian. How did that guitar go?
Brad Angove I haven't done it yet. still a little leary about sanding it down and still awaiting word for the artist. august sometime
I'm excited to see how it goes.
I have a guitar that looks just like that, and I did the first step, sanding with 600 grit, but it looks hazy and scratchy, not just flat black like yours. Can you think of what I did wrong? Thanks for answering.
You didn’t do anything wrong. That’s probably just the camera for the most part making mine look matte. It will always look hazy after a sanding at that grit.
Thanks a lot
Brad!
You’re welcome.
how sweet it shall be \m/ i'm doing a few guitars when it warms up i have to wait until then cuz i work on my balcony i'll be doing a bass lemon yellow with black hw, i'll be doing my bc rich zombie white and it has black hw as well, and lastly i got a new warlock and i'm gonna do a classic tiger orange/black stripes. I'm using water based acryllics again. Any suggestions for the clearcoat? i used the miniwax gloss poly as my clear-coat last time, but it left an amber look to it, and i'd like to avoid that and have a clear gloss clear-coat this time cuz the amber would really show on those brighter colors . Also i'm looking to foam-brush it on, cuz i don't have or want to buy a respirator to spray it on.
There may be an acrylic that will give a more clear look, but most clear coats darken the finish a little. I don't really do a lot of brush on finishes. I think there are some "crystal clear" brush on finishes that I was looking at at home depot a while back.
crystal clear poly brush ons? cuz being a fellow canuck, hitting up a home depot would be no prob. :)
Ya, basically something that includes those words haha.
If my body is red, how would I tape to make black and white stripes? Would I have to tape off more of the body to keep the red? Thanks for the video
Yes, you essentially just tape off the larger areas.
If you use two different brands of paint would that result in seeing black lines under the red paint? Or do you just have to give it extra red coats?
I'm not sure what using two brands of paint would have to do with the visibility of black lines. Can you clarify?
Brad Angove ya, so after doing black acrylic, looked good, then tape and whitepaint, still good, but after i put the red coat on, the black lines showed under the red. i'm guessing i was hasty and should have done another coat another day. gonna turn it into a click but the next one i do i'm gonna use a proper evh stencil. But would you say it's ok to use
Montana Acrylic Black
Rustoleum white paint plus primer ( i know at this stage it doesn't require paint and primer i just grabbed the flat white paint) and lastly Rustoleum 2X red gloss.
that's. my triple combo
thoughts?
cheers
and love the vids
+D'sBalls you should be able to get away with using the rustoleum painters touch and the Montana gold together, but it's a bit risky. Sometimes mixing like that can cause crazy cracking. I would try to stick within the same brand and type if you can.
when I sand my guitar to scuff it up is it OK that there are scratch marks all over the guitar from the sandpaper? is the normal and will it go away after painting it?
Ya, that’s the point of it. Scratch it up a bit with high grit paper so the paint can “grip”.
Jake Gyllenhaal teaching me how to prep a guitar for spraying..... THERE IS A GOD! im gonna make a FrankenDarko strat now... Black, Grey and Blue just for you DONNIE!
I'm building speaker enclosures. What brand of paint are you using. I couldn't see it on the video.
Rustoleum.
Thank you
You're welcome.
hey what's the fluid that you use at 3:50 please? i'm french and don't understand the name of this substance
Wax and grease remover.
Hey brad what type of paint is the red spray? Is it acrylic? If not can you still use 2k clear on acrylic finishes?
It’s acrylic, but a solvent based acrylic designed to emulate enamel I believe.
@@BradAngove so am I able to spray 2k over a coat of 2x rustoleum clear?
Yes, just do as I said in response to this same question from you on another video.
How would you do line work with nitro paints? Would you just quickly apply the tape to nitro, do the paint, remove the tape let it dry, then clear over it with nitro lacquer?
Essentially yes. Just don’t rush putting the tape on. Make sure you give the lacquer time to dry first.
@@BradAngove okay, so I’m wanting to do a recreation of James Hetfields Gibson iron cross, and it’s black, with a gold racing stripe down the left side of the guitar, what would be the best steps for this!? Tape of the body where the gold stripes would be, then spray black. remove the tape, wait for the black to cure, then apply tape over the black, then paint the gold race stripe and then remove that tape? Let the paints cure for a few days or week a bit then apply clear over that?
No need to tape the same thing twice. Just spray one color, let it dry, mask, and spray the other. Like I did in this tutorial.
Damn... would using my fingers to sand (polishing stage) explain why I have so many visible scratches on my buffed and polished finish?
Probably not. What grit of paper were you using?
Brad Angove 1000-1500-2000-3000-5000. Might be because I didn’t do enough of all the grits past 1500.
Instead of removing the pickups can I cover them with tape?
If you’re careful
Would these steps apply to a bare wood body? I'm building a custom guitar and I'm going to buy the body without it painted.
+The Gaming Ghost You'll need to seal the wood first. Have a look at the first or second video in my series on finishing a guitar with behlen's guitar finishing kit if you want some info on that step (can't remember if it's the first video or the second one).
Brad Angove thanks
You're welcome.
If I seal the wood do I still need to put primer on as well
Generally no.
What paint are you using here ?? Brand ? Enamel...lacquer ???
+Pav M Rustoleum acrylic
Pro tip...always use a wax/degreaser before sanding. If the surface is contaminated to begin with you will just drive it further in when sanding making it more difficult to prep before spraying.
Is the paint a Fender plastic type coated paint?
A polyester? That’s not what I’m using.
Is there. ReSon ppl are using masking tape instead of painters tape? Seems painters tape if the way to go, but am I missing something or is it not a big deal, btw, day 3, still sanding, going through lots of sandpaper
+D'sBalls Painters tape is masking tape.
I read somewhere that evh used pinstriping tape from an auto parts store...
He would have used that for the fine lines, yes. Not sure which type though. There’s more than one type of pin-striping tape.
Could you do a blood splatter tutorial?
Yes
Hey Brad, thanks for the video's, I am doing a EVH Striped paint job now and your plan sure helps! I am starting with the Black, but will do the White next, then finish with the Red and Clear. All in Enamel Paint. One thing I noticed in your video's in this series is that you scuff the paint between colors, but not when applying a second coat of the same color? I forgot to scuff the Black before putting on the first coat of White. Oops! Or does it matter that much? I will scuff each layer a little until finish just to make sure. Again, thanks bro!
+b4096 I scuff any time I'm not able to recoat within a 10-15 minute window. If you recoat within the appropriate flash off time, the next coat will bond chemically. If you have to wait, for example to be able to apply tape, then you need to scuff so that the next layer can bind mechanically.
What if I have a white base.. Also my main question is where is the template for the tape job.
Then tape off the white part of your pattern first. What template?
I don’t have a template. I think people generally just use a reference photo and imitate it.
FYI... the function of your "conductive paint" as shielding would work either as a topcoat or buried under other paint.. the idea is to block signal leakage.. so masking it means absolutely nothing unless you are planning to use it to actually pass a signal.. then you would want to contact it directly... in this case as shielding... any ground connected anywhere will do... the rest can be painted.. and if you're staying true to a Frankenstrat look... the cavities were painted... not shielded with copper or any other tape.. nor painted with conductive paint..
Would this work for an unpainted body?
It can. I would seal it first though.
Hey brad when I finished with my paint, it's not a hard finish, but it's soft which could easily be dented by a finger nail, it wasn't what I was expecting and I could feel the layers of paint stacking on top of each other! Can you help me? Much appreciated. I am having a hard time
Take me through your steps and what paints you used, and I will see if I can figure out what went wrong.
Thank you for responding
Here it is in order
Scuff the finish by scotch pad,
Apply the white + primer rustolium paint on 1 hour between each coat(3 coats)
Wait over night
Scuff the guitar
Mask the guitar ready to spray black rustolium
Sprayed 3 coats of rustolium 20min between each coats
Waited over night
Take the tape off
Scuff the body to take off the gloss of the black paint
Put on masking tape for the red coat
Sprayed the red coat 20 min between each
Waited overnight
Take the tape off and scuff the red gloss
Sprayed the gloss rustolium 3 times 20 min between
And that's it I haven't done anything since and the paint is not harden, rather is soft and easily dent by finger nails small pressure
And it still smell like paint
Sounds like your clear hasn't cured properly. Did you have any problems with paint lifting when you removed your tape? Also, how long has it been since you finished painting it?
Brad Angove it has been 2 days and there was no paint peeling off when taking tape off, but the body now is very easily scratched off by a pick going under it
If there other paint didn't peel than it seems relatively clear that it's just the clear that's the problem. It might have gone on a bit too heavy or something. You'll probably have to sand back through it in order to fix the issue.
Great video, II know you have said you are not going for an exact replica, however, for anyone that IS going for an exact replica, please do your self a favor and do it like Eddie did. Does NOT make sense from a color palate, however he started with Black, masked and painted white, and then masked (along with some weird squiggle patterns) and painted 1 more time. There is also a mysterious pale blue color on the back, that was unintentional and was picked up from something Eddie laid the guitar on when it was wet. Also, there are some random bicycle reflectors (1 broken intentionally I believe) and I THINK a 1977 quarter that has no function that I can recall by the Floyd rose. The center cavity is a 5 position pickup selector that is NOT wired and the top pickup is also not wired. This is a great video and I wish I had not bought a guitar blank to start from scratch on....and had to primer from the ground up. Still in the process right now, but I love the video and stopped in for a little painting advice... :)
I’ve got plenty of content on the priming/sealing process if you happen to need it.
1971 quarter ;)
hi - why not several thin coats vs one big one?
+gregoryvanhalen I did use several relatively thin coats as far as enamel coats go.
Lazy?
I always thought u went black white them red?
It doesn’t matter what the order is. You just have to account for that with your masking.
Instead of sanding the paint off you can use a heat gun and a scraper and take it off much easier
What if you buy a unfinished body?
You’ll need to follow the beginning portions of the painting process first. I have a bunch of videos and guitar kit build series that show ways to do it.
Could you use a cheaper spray paint
Cheaper than rustoleum?
Brad Angove My bad
Eddie paint blank body whit Black First
Next use masking tape and paint White
At last masking tape and red
This is great if your goal is a Van Halen inspired paint job. But by no mean should this be used as a reference to produce an accurate pattern and color layering...
For extremely accurate reference, find Johnny B Guitars frankenstrat series... you will see the seriously in depth details that are literally required to be even close to accurate...
Your guitar is pretty cool.
U never spray white over red it turns it to a pink color up close
No it doesn’t. White is a more opaque pigment than red. Only thing that covers better is black.
I dont haver strat but I do have a 1976 rickenbacker
Nice.
Brad Angove thanks but the paint is stripped the neck is missing the headstock is broken and the thing is covered in cracks
+Cameron Treacy oh no. That's not good.
Brad Angove yeah but yesterday I started to repair it, so far I made a neck out of plywood
and I found all the electronics
Brad Angove btw im 13
The red is too dark.. needs to be brighter... one of the black lines is too wide... DONT GET ME WRONG,,, VERY NICE JOB!
You should of mentioned your guitar was black. Jk! Thanks for the vid
+John Calcott Wait, the guitar was black?
Would be easier...white, red then black ..painted a tool box and a strat body...tool box was red...tons of masking..on the guitar I started with the white...was way easier and with the contour the lines were less of a..to have straight tape lines. Just a tip. Rip evh.
tbat sandpaper will lock into that block yo
That sandpaper is foam backed, so I'm going to have to disagree with you.
3 mins to sand? I don't believe you
The only thing that's gonna take longer is to decide the color scheme
How long do you think it too me to sand?
This is precisely the wrong way to do the VH paint job. It's white over black, then red over that.
It makes precisely no difference what difference you do it in, except from a convenience perspective.
You are absolutely incorrect. The stripes interweave in a very specific pattern that can only be replicated by doing the paint in the sequence I noted above.
Hahaha well, I made it pretty clear that I wasn’t trying to replicate the design exactly, so I guess the conversation is moot and the initial comment was pointless. Onward I guess.
Brad Angove its not the frankenstrat paint job if it looks nothing like the actual paint job
The entire point of the frankenstrat paint job was that it was an imprecise pattern. You’re welcome to try to emulate it perfectly if you want, but the same concept applies, the tutorial still shows how a frankenstrat paint job is done, and there are tons of different “frankenstrat paint jobs” in various colours. Even EVH had a few different ones. Don’t be ridiculous.
That’s how Eddie did it.🙄
Right, I forgot the title of the video was “how to paint something exactly how Eddie did”... oh wait...
This is nowhere near Eddie's paint process.
So?
This is what NOT to do when you are doing your Ed guitar.... You dont want to paint over the clear coat...The tone of this guitar is completely ruined now. Always start with bare wood....
You’re laboring under a very old misconception. The tone of this guitar is no different than if it had no paint on it at all. Have a look at some of the modern testing on the subject before making assertions.
I don’t know about paint’s effect on tone, but I want to play heavy metal songs with a black guitar, and want to play country with a blonde guitar.
FAIL
Amateur hour...
If you’ve got something worthwhile to add, feel free.
Darryl 603 shut up
As a subscriber who has watched countless TH-cam videos on painting (I like doing guitars and football helmets) I can honestly say Brad is not an amateur, very professional in production, explanation and responding to questions. The only problem I see is all professionals get paid, he does it free for us...
Its painful to watch all the small errors he makes while spraying this paint... For instance, touching the body with his sweaty fingers AFTER he degreased it, and watching him not painting off what's called the "wet edge", or the fact that he neither primed the body OR layed a tack coat... if you're a painter you know what I'm talking about...
As you can see, the minor contact I made with the body after degreasing had no effect.
The wet edge works a bit differently with spray cans. Watch closely, you may learn something from how I work with it in this video.
There is no reason to primer a pre-sealed body in this case. Primer assists with adhesion on metal and often plastic. It’s not helpful over a prior paint job like this. There’s also no need for a tack coat on an acrylic paint. I use one on my urethanes.
I imagine you’re in the automotive industry. I’ve done that as well. There are some differences. Thanks for your comment though.
That's not the way you do it you start out with a black guitar you paint the guitar black first then you tape up what you want to keep black and then you paint the entire guitar White and then without removing any of that tape you tape off what you want to keep white and then paint the entire guitar red then you take off all the tape you're you're screwed up
I find it hilarious how people don’t understand that you can do it in whatever order you want haha.