Yeah, but it was undoubtedly the turning point. The Hapsburgs captured the King. Pavia fueled their rise in the Iberian Peninsula and maintained their position in Continental Europe.
It may be due to Britain to no shine here except for some actions it made. And also due to French to no be able to defeat Spanish for some time. In Germany it gains importance by the civil and religious topic. Also it some TH-camr talks about the period they tend to only talk about the armada, rocroi, lens, Gustavo V, Spanish inquisition, Spanish inflation.
Three Spanish soldiers captured king Francis: Juan de Urbieta (from Basque Country), Alonso Pita (from Galicia) and Diego Dávila (from Andalucía). All three of them gained honor and a reward from the Emperor, but French didn't forget their names, and Urbieta's graveyard was profaned in revenge by Napoleon's soldiers during the invasion of the Peninsula three hundred years later.
@WILLIAM EWART GLADSTONE Bueno, eso que dices está muy claro. El objetivo de mi comentario era más bien hacer ver la larga mano de los franceses para vengarse de forma mezquina de muertos que les habían vencido o humillado siglos atrás. Otro caso igual de flagrante, y más conocido es el de la profanación de los restos del Gran Capitán por orden del general Sebastiani, que incluso se llevó su calavera.
@WILLIAM EWART GLADSTONE Para mí no tiene ninguna lógica y es incomprensible hacer algo tan ruin, sobre todo entre los miembros del ejército más poderoso del mundo en una época en la que el honor era la divisa del soldado. Pero me gustaría saber, por curiosidad, cuáles eran esos epitafios tan insultantes
Una pena que no se conserven, sería interesante saber qué decían. Respecto a los profanadores, en teoría los oficiales eran caballeros, tenían formación tanto moral como académica y podían impedir esos desmanes de la tropa. Pero si todo partía de ellos mismos, la situación cambia.
I wouldn't profane any tomb, those french made a mistake, who knows who can take revenge or curse you from other worlds.....
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This is without a doubt the best video about the Battle of Pavia that currently exists on TH-cam, since the Kings & Generals version makes several mistakes on the tactical map, I congratulate you for your excellent work, I will recommend it whenever I can. Pavia is the most decisive battle of the entire Italian Wars, causing very important casualties to the French aristocracy (something that aggravated the situation of France in the coming civil wars) and annihilating practically all the Landsknechts (the famous Black Band) and Swiss who served under the Fleur de Lis. The striking thing about it all is that the original plan of Lannoy and Pescara was not to enter into battle, but to help the besieged, destroy the French artillery and then leave; However, the fact of having such a professional army, as well as prepared for any unexpected event (which was what happened), managed to make them face their enemies correctly and even losing artillery, in addition to cavalry, during the initial moments of the combat, they were able to win the battle thanks to the combined use of harquebuses and pikes (that is, only by the infantry), something comparable to what was achieved by the English in Crecy and Angincourt; After this, the infantry definitively dominated the battlefields to the present day.
I find battle of Pavia one of the greatest tactical battles of early modern era. Pescara's plan and it's implementation showed great vision and courage. Combination of artillery, infantry and cavalry at their best.
This has been the best video yet! A much better music selection than the other Italian Wars videos and the level of detail in the battle was incredible!!
Have been even more interested in this period, after seeing Charles' tomb in El Escorial near Madrid. Very interesting time, because of all the events running concurrent to it, the reformation, discovery of south America, renaissance, Henry VIII's break with Rome, the French wars of religion, Ottoman's at the door of Vienna etc.
@@pikeshotBattles Quite probably so. Would you ever do anything on the French wars of Religion. Im currently writing articles on it at the moment, or even the Dutch revolt?
I always thought this was a compelling story. Could you imagine two miniseries one about the prelude and the aftermath of Pavia and Rocroi. Two battle about a hundred years apart, the outcomes as is changed the destiny of France, Italy, The Holy Roman Empire and the Benelux countries.
@@vascoespañol Pavia also wasn't really important then. Sorry, Rocroi was important. Just because you Spanish lost doesn't mean that it wasn't important.
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@@kakhagvelesiani3877You talk about the subjectivity of others, when in reality you show yourself to be worse and it blinds you so much that you are not able to recognize the historical truth. Pavia was much more important than Rocroi, because in the first, control of Italy was gained for more than 200 years, while Rocroi was only one more confrontation in the Franco-Spanish War, which did not end with the Tercios (since they withdrew in good order) and incidentally it has been exaggerated by French historiography (erroneously saying that it was the end of Spanish domination of Europe); but what they do not say is that before in the Battle of Honnecourt (1642) the Spanish defeated that same French army of Rocroi, while later in the battle of Tuttlingen (the same year as Rocroi in 1643) another French army was completely annihilated. The battle that actually took hegemony from the Spanish armies was the Battle of the Dunes of 1658, in which a combined army of French and English (the reason why you do not use this battle), now managed to annihilate to the Spanish forces, ending the war afterwards and making France become the military power until the War of the Spanish Succession (when everything was balanced again).
You should release a compiled video of all your multi series videos. e.g. take these 9 videos of the Italian wars and release them again as a single video. Same for your other multi-video series.
There's no mention about Duke of Montmorency's troop movements by 7:20. Del Vasto supported Frudsberg push as they were shooting on the French flank by 8:30. Frundsberg never reached Tore del gallo and killed swiss commander and virtually more than half of the contigent.Then along side del Vasto they both on that moment push to the other front where Francis I was. He also left some forces to finish off the french on that right flank who pushed downwards the remants towards Tore del gallo. Pescara didn't push along side the cav, but the cav pushed first and got heavily pushed back by the gerdarmerie. That was the mistake because, after having commited to the charge, the gerndarmerie got bog down in heavy persue on broken terrain having Pescara's contingent right behind Imperial cav, meaning certain death. Doesnt mention Cesare Hercolani niether.
Question, what battles did Charles V fight where he was actually present? I can’t seem to find any battles where he was in the front lines until only after these Italian Wars.
Quite a lot. The last one where he was represented by Tiziano was in Mühlberg. He even went to some expeditions in North Africa. He was present in the landings in Tunez, where he was victorius, and in Alger that was a big defeat and he was in risk of being killed or taken as prisioner.
Well. ...is not clear, not really tercios fought in Pavia, kind of, more like regiments, more or less the same, the final structure of the tercios were being developing those years.
pls be more restrained with using the term musketeers, muskets would only become the main infantry range weapon around 1600 arquebuses were more commonly used in the first half of the 16th century
@@pikeshotBattles well yeah but still muskets idk if there were whole musketeer units as those muskets were much heavier than those we know form the 17th and 18th century
@@patriciusvunkempen102 The Bande Nere were early adopters. ps. even arquebuses were very large caliber weapons (17-18mm), so from close range they would penetrate armor.
@@pikeshotBattles i am talking about the fact that muskets of the time were heavier becuase of greater barrel lengths. later muskets were smaller then 16th cnetury muskets, at least from what i read. it could be that schmidtschen did some mistakes. never said arquebuses are small caliber weapons for today standart. also on close range i wpould expect the arqurebusers to run, because even if they manage to give a shot , behind a pike man there is another one. so i would expect them not too shoot too much during shortrange , that is why early muskets with their longer barrels were used as they could penetrate armor more reliably on greater distance. i was just not sure if you meant it as you said or made a confusion. thanks for clarification anyways.
Charles V was Holy "Roman" Emperor, and so, the sovereign for a lot of center european states (nowaday, Czech, Slovakians, Saxons, etc.) with mainly protestant population. Anyway, French was an ally for Saladin the Great, that was not exactly a christian, and Andrea Doria changed the side in the best moment, becoming the best naval contractor for Spain in the whole century. All the alliances were very confusing and changing, in this century...
what is the true purpose of the park is it a private estate a public park a maintained grove/source of timber and other forest goods or a hunting ground for nobles?
A mantained grove/source of timber and other forest goods (there were also parts of it cultivated as vineyards and orchards, as well as fish ponds) and a hunting ground for nobles. The castle and the park were property of Galeazzo Sanseverino, a "Condottiere" that fought for the French for all the Italian Wars since 1509. Personal friend of Francis I, and nominated "Grand Ecuyer" (Great Squire) of the king, he died in the battle, as many nobles, defending Francis.
@@phillip_iv_planetking6354 Reaped what they saw.....ahahahahah we civilised both Gaul and Iberia.....you are a product of romanisation, Which has given much more than what it took. Never forget that.
The Holy League of Cognac sounds like a bunch of priest locking themselves away from the world to „serve god and leave behind all earthly pleasures“. Yet somehow they need large quantities of alcohol for that.
@@giulianoilfilosofo7927 They can be independent if they want, but that land belongs to every spanish person equally. So they need to find another piece of land. Good luck to them in Antarctica.
lol really no, you didn't watch all of his videos but overall the French has been the best military power in Europe history, look at military history of France in wikipedia page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_France#cite_note-1 or www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/qi/7930116/QI-Quite-Interesting-facts-about-France.html. (Not French propaganda but facts don't be jealous)
@@shelv9538 he ain't a hater he is just speaking truth while Spain was saving europe from islam france and england always wanted to fuck Spain up it wasn't until napoleon when france was officially more powerful than Spain for a period of 15 years and the Spain became more powerful but then france became more powerful in the 1830s
That was very good... thanks for your efforts..
35 more years to go..
Just one more episode.
Yeah, but it was undoubtedly the turning point. The Hapsburgs captured the King. Pavia fueled their rise in the Iberian Peninsula and maintained their position in Continental Europe.
great content! Nice to see that other creators are also interested in this time period. it seems to be somewhat neglected by many.
you two are hidden gems
It may be due to Britain to no shine here except for some actions it made. And also due to French to no be able to defeat Spanish for some time. In Germany it gains importance by the civil and religious topic.
Also it some TH-camr talks about the period they tend to only talk about the armada, rocroi, lens, Gustavo V, Spanish inquisition, Spanish inflation.
I love how the Spanish army made it, the silence, the cannons' signal, the playing, falses retreats-skirmishes,... Hats off. A total masterpiece.
Three Spanish soldiers captured king Francis: Juan de Urbieta (from Basque Country), Alonso Pita (from Galicia) and Diego Dávila (from Andalucía). All three of them gained honor and a reward from the Emperor, but French didn't forget their names, and Urbieta's graveyard was profaned in revenge by Napoleon's soldiers during the invasion of the Peninsula three hundred years later.
@WILLIAM EWART GLADSTONE Bueno, eso que dices está muy claro. El objetivo de mi comentario era más bien hacer ver la larga mano de los franceses para vengarse de forma mezquina de muertos que les habían vencido o humillado siglos atrás. Otro caso igual de flagrante, y más conocido es el de la profanación de los restos del Gran Capitán por orden del general Sebastiani, que incluso se llevó su calavera.
@WILLIAM EWART GLADSTONE Para mí no tiene ninguna lógica y es incomprensible hacer algo tan ruin, sobre todo entre los miembros del ejército más poderoso del mundo en una época en la que el honor era la divisa del soldado. Pero me gustaría saber, por curiosidad, cuáles eran esos epitafios tan insultantes
Una pena que no se conserven, sería interesante saber qué decían. Respecto a los profanadores, en teoría los oficiales eran caballeros, tenían formación tanto moral como académica y podían impedir esos desmanes de la tropa. Pero si todo partía de ellos mismos, la situación cambia.
Turks profaned Hunyadi's grave 200 yrs later.
I wouldn't profane any tomb, those french made a mistake, who knows who can take revenge or curse you from other worlds.....
This is without a doubt the best video about the Battle of Pavia that currently exists on TH-cam, since the Kings & Generals version makes several mistakes on the tactical map, I congratulate you for your excellent work, I will recommend it whenever I can. Pavia is the most decisive battle of the entire Italian Wars, causing very important casualties to the French aristocracy (something that aggravated the situation of France in the coming civil wars) and annihilating practically all the Landsknechts (the famous Black Band) and Swiss who served under the Fleur de Lis. The striking thing about it all is that the original plan of Lannoy and Pescara was not to enter into battle, but to help the besieged, destroy the French artillery and then leave; However, the fact of having such a professional army, as well as prepared for any unexpected event (which was what happened), managed to make them face their enemies correctly and even losing artillery, in addition to cavalry, during the initial moments of the combat, they were able to win the battle thanks to the combined use of harquebuses and pikes (that is, only by the infantry), something comparable to what was achieved by the English in Crecy and Angincourt; After this, the infantry definitively dominated the battlefields to the present day.
I find battle of Pavia one of the greatest tactical battles of early modern era. Pescara's plan and it's implementation showed great vision and courage. Combination of artillery, infantry and cavalry at their best.
This is what TH-cam was made for. What an awesome channel/series. Great voice for it too. I like the subtle music in the background, sets the mood.
*cute cat videos
Finally PAVIA my favorite battle of the Italian wars.
@Lane Hok not by a longshot
@Lane Hok Not for Spain
@Lane Hok The worst, most tragic battle in the whole mankind’s history…
Finally it's out! Enjoy.
The next video will be Portuguese Empire 3/3
This has been the best video yet! A much better music selection than the other Italian Wars videos and the level of detail in the battle was incredible!!
You videos are excellent, keep up the good work sir!
Ilove your work! Please, keep doing it!
I ALWAYS WAIT FOR YOUR VIDEOS. I WISH I COULD SEE YOU UPLOADING IN EVERY WEAK
I have an exam on modern Italy next week, thanks for the videos, it's only a part of my subject but it helps a lot
Have been even more interested in this period, after seeing Charles' tomb in El Escorial near Madrid. Very interesting time, because of all the events running concurrent to it, the reformation, discovery of south America, renaissance, Henry VIII's break with Rome, the French wars of religion, Ottoman's at the door of Vienna etc.
Charles Versus Francois round 1?
It's the most interesting period between Caesar and Napoleon.
@@pikeshotBattles Quite probably so. Would you ever do anything on the French wars of Religion. Im currently writing articles on it at the moment, or even the Dutch revolt?
@@MrRobfullarton I also up the request for the dutch revolt and wars of the reformation (not only french)...
The discovery of South America? Weren’t the Spanish in the Philippines by now?
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Enjoyed to a great extend, thank you!
Man this channel is amazing. Thank you so much for this kind of content.
Found this video because of The Last Stand by Sabaton and now I'm obsessed with Italian history in the era
This is underrated channel your videos are crazy amazing man it's just incredible loved it man
Glad to hear that!
Cool channel, actually wanted to know more about pike and shot warfare.
New Subscriber brother. Thanks from Australia.
I always thought this was a compelling story. Could you imagine two miniseries one about the prelude and the aftermath of Pavia and Rocroi. Two battle about a hundred years apart, the outcomes as is changed the destiny of France, Italy, The Holy Roman Empire and the Benelux countries.
Rocroi wasnt so important as said
@@vascoespañol So was Pavia.
@@SaintJust1214 Pavia was really important indeed
@@vascoespañol Pavia also wasn't really important then. Sorry, Rocroi was important. Just because you Spanish lost doesn't mean that it wasn't important.
@@kakhagvelesiani3877You talk about the subjectivity of others, when in reality you show yourself to be worse and it blinds you so much that you are not able to recognize the historical truth. Pavia was much more important than Rocroi, because in the first, control of Italy was gained for more than 200 years, while Rocroi was only one more confrontation in the Franco-Spanish War, which did not end with the Tercios (since they withdrew in good order) and incidentally it has been exaggerated by French historiography (erroneously saying that it was the end of Spanish domination of Europe); but what they do not say is that before in the Battle of Honnecourt (1642) the Spanish defeated that same French army of Rocroi, while later in the battle of Tuttlingen (the same year as Rocroi in 1643) another French army was completely annihilated. The battle that actually took hegemony from the Spanish armies was the Battle of the Dunes of 1658, in which a combined army of French and English (the reason why you do not use this battle), now managed to annihilate to the Spanish forces, ending the war afterwards and making France become the military power until the War of the Spanish Succession (when everything was balanced again).
Very well done.
The Interstellar music in Italian Wars is the most funniest thing in this vid 😂😂
You should release a compiled video of all your multi series videos. e.g. take these 9 videos of the Italian wars and release them again as a single video. Same for your other multi-video series.
Good stuff, you deserve more attention!
There's no mention about Duke of Montmorency's troop movements by 7:20. Del Vasto supported Frudsberg push as they were shooting on the French flank by 8:30. Frundsberg never reached Tore del gallo and killed swiss commander and virtually more than half of the contigent.Then along side del Vasto they both on that moment push to the other front where Francis I was. He also left some forces to finish off the french on that right flank who pushed downwards the remants towards Tore del gallo. Pescara didn't push along side the cav, but the cav pushed first and got heavily pushed back by the gerdarmerie. That was the mistake because, after having commited to the charge, the gerndarmerie got bog down in heavy persue on broken terrain having Pescara's contingent right behind Imperial cav, meaning certain death. Doesnt mention Cesare Hercolani niether.
So good!
When one is a strategist and the other is sleeping...
Landsknechts(meaning thieves) and Swiss are the same...
May the algorithm give me MORE videos like these
Great video and research you deserve way more subs
Very captivating video!
great work
Brilliant.
It's PavIa, though: the stress is on the i.
this is very good man good fkn work
As portuguese empire is done and Italian wars hs only one more episode to go, what is the next project?
Question, what battles did Charles V fight where he was actually present? I can’t seem to find any battles where he was in the front lines until only after these Italian Wars.
None that I know of.
Quite a lot. The last one where he was represented by Tiziano was in Mühlberg. He even went to some expeditions in North Africa. He was present in the landings in Tunez, where he was victorius, and in Alger that was a big defeat and he was in risk of being killed or taken as prisioner.
Aw hell yeah, this lunch break is gonna be L I T!
Does anyone know a spanish and a french channel with similar content ?
Hi, when you mean the Spanish musketeers, do you the mean the Tercios?
Well. ...is not clear, not really tercios fought in Pavia, kind of, more like regiments, more or less the same, the final structure of the tercios were being developing those years.
Glad the episode was long enough for the edibles kick in.
pls be more restrained with using the term musketeers, muskets would only become the main infantry range weapon around 1600
arquebuses were more commonly used in the first half of the 16th century
Muskets were introduced about this time in Italy.
@@pikeshotBattles well yeah but still muskets idk if there were whole musketeer units as those muskets were much heavier than those we know form the 17th and 18th century
@@patriciusvunkempen102 The Bande Nere were early adopters.
ps. even arquebuses were very large caliber weapons (17-18mm), so from close range they would penetrate armor.
@@pikeshotBattles i am talking about the fact that muskets of the time were heavier becuase of greater barrel lengths.
later muskets were smaller then 16th cnetury muskets, at least from what i read.
it could be that schmidtschen did some mistakes.
never said arquebuses are small caliber weapons for today standart.
also on close range i wpould expect the arqurebusers to run, because even if they manage to give a shot , behind a pike man there is another one.
so i would expect them not too shoot too much during shortrange , that is why early muskets with their longer barrels were used as they could penetrate armor more reliably on greater distance.
i was just not sure if you meant it as you said or made a confusion.
thanks for clarification anyways.
and then it turned out that the musket was turning the Maximilian's armor inside out!
Congratulations!!!!!!
Wait Charles V a fervont Catholic is recruiting Protestant mercenaries?
Whole beauty of Charles time 😶
Charles V was Holy "Roman" Emperor, and so, the sovereign for a lot of center european states (nowaday, Czech, Slovakians, Saxons, etc.) with mainly protestant population.
Anyway, French was an ally for Saladin the Great, that was not exactly a christian, and Andrea Doria changed the side in the best moment, becoming the best naval contractor for Spain in the whole century. All the alliances were very confusing and changing, in this century...
Peace was never an option
Did we skip video 8?
Ben fatto
The french losing is so clasic
I hate Venice for attacking Constantinople 😢😢😢😢😢
thats why the french own spain since 1714 i guess?
what is the true purpose of the park
is it a private estate
a public park
a maintained grove/source of timber and other forest goods
or a hunting ground for nobles?
A mantained grove/source of timber and other forest goods (there were also parts of it cultivated as vineyards and orchards, as well as fish ponds) and a hunting ground for nobles. The castle and the park were property of Galeazzo Sanseverino, a "Condottiere" that fought for the French for all the Italian Wars since 1509. Personal friend of Francis I, and nominated "Grand Ecuyer" (Great Squire) of the king, he died in the battle, as many nobles, defending Francis.
@@neutronalchemist3241 damn thanks for the information, I know it sounds irrelevant but I love to know about all parts of life.
Oh come on you should have expanded more on the sack of Rome
It wasn't relevant.
@@dominicguye8058 why not
@@loods2215 Not part of the Italian wars with France.....
@WILLIAM EWART GLADSTONE que?
La ruina d'Italia, Italy's ruin, as Machiavelli said ...
La rovina not "ruina"?
@@artflob4639 Ruina,in Machiavelli's 16th century Florentine.
I guess they reaped what they sowed millienia ago in both Gaul and Iberia....
@@phillip_iv_planetking6354 Reaped what they saw.....ahahahahah we civilised both Gaul and Iberia.....you are a product of romanisation, Which has given much more than what it took. Never forget that.
@@giulianoilfilosofo7927 Sowed.
Not Saw.
You sound butt hurt.
Si dice Pavía, non pàvia 🤓
I have a very wierd feeling that somehow i am going to get betrayed by Matt Damon and sucked into a Tesseract.
The only thing italian was the location the troops where from Spanish Empire
There were many Italian soldiers too, not to mention the commanders on the Imperialist side.
The Holy League of Cognac sounds like a bunch of priest locking themselves away from the world to „serve god and leave behind all earthly pleasures“. Yet somehow they need large quantities of alcohol for that.
8mesi .....x i 500anni .....ultima edizione ufficiale anno 2010.....io c'ero a san genesio e uniti .....speriamo anche tra 8 mesi .....
Hispania did rule the land.
Yes, and now they can't even rule the Catalans apparently.
@@giulianoilfilosofo7927 yes we do
@@vascoespañol I Hope you do, because if you give them Independence it will unleash a domino effect, so don't.
@@giulianoilfilosofo7927 They can be independent if they want, but that land belongs to every spanish person equally. So they need to find another piece of land. Good luck to them in Antarctica.
@@giulianoilfilosofo7927 Giiulano II The 361 ad Cesar???
the french lose everything unless they are led by a teenage girl or an italian guy.. impressive
Fontenoy, Tours, Allia, Gergovia, Soissons, Hastings, Paris, Ascelon, Verdun, Duns, Toulon, Carillon to name a few French victories.
lol really no, you didn't watch all of his videos but overall the French has been the best military power in Europe history, look at military history of France in wikipedia page en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_France#cite_note-1 or www.telegraph.co.uk/men/the-filter/qi/7930116/QI-Quite-Interesting-facts-about-France.html. (Not French propaganda but facts don't be jealous)
@@1467B Don't waste your time answering such fools, few people actually know that France won most of its battles.
Number 1 french hater just right there.
@@shelv9538 he ain't a hater he is just speaking truth while Spain was saving europe from islam france and england always wanted to fuck Spain up it wasn't until napoleon when france was officially more powerful than Spain for a period of 15 years and the Spain became more powerful but then france became more powerful in the 1830s
It's pronounced PA - VEEE AH
not PAAA VEEA
That's the american pronunciation, he said it right.
@@violenceisfun Ha ha right! He's English. Dosen't work. I'll go with where it originated: Italiano. 'Merica!