Can people chill out?? Arsenal is very good, we have a new coach with an entire new system, AND we played at the Emirates. Can everyone relax??? Lolol yall act like we should never lose a game. Be realistic fam
6 is average .. 5 is just not good enough.... 4 is crap.... Rashford did nothing to deserve a 5... but he did a lot to deserve a 4.... stop defending him with excuses... Maybe he was disappointed with himself for giving the corner away.... he SHOULD be a professional footballer... but YOU treat him like a little fragile boy.... he's 27... and not good enough
When Rashford came on we went down to 10 men. Disappointed with the nature of the goals but I was pleased with the fight and intensity. Thought Ugarte was superb.
Ugarte was good holding the ball..calming the play down but we need to see more progressive passes from him in the final third ! There were few chances today where he cudhve passed forward in transition and let arsenal have it but he played it back many times !
@@espenkaligrebrof9682 bro garnacho rashford bruno zirkzee can be sold ffs and i wont break a sweat ! Rashford and garnacho cant cross the ball if their life depended on it ! Them two zirkzee and Bruno cannot hold the ball .. Horrible first touch..makes me apprwciate lukakus first touch .. I aint biased bro ihve had enough w these subpar players ! Ugarte on the other hand i have high hopes for .. But being a 6 he stil needs to progess the ball like a deep playmaker sometimes !
@@sweekarkc3862 Bruno won't be sold and he is really not the problem. I agree Zirkzee looks slow for the PL, but I don't think he is the problem either. Rashford and Garnacho are both the same - and they are both problems. No tracking back, no pressing, no effort. If you have ballers around Bruno - like he has for Portugal - he is not so bad. The other too are always bad when it comes to the same things. Maguire is also way too slow in his passing. Getting pressure so easily. Good he is leaving in the summer. I am sure he will!
RASHFORD STINKS THE PLACE OUT , so hard to watch him part of out team . I want hard workers and dedication to the badge then let your talent do the rest. I'm officially done with him.
The game wasn't as chaotic; we managed to keep Arsenal silent. The only problem was the set pieces; Casemiro would have made a difference. How many times have we seen him get his head on the ball on both sides? And Rashford was just unlucky, it could have been any corner.
Patience required. Didn't concede from open play. Need work on corners. First half we played to a strategy of don't lose the ball and forget about scoring. Just keep the ball. Don't have a problem with that. We've got roster problems that are going to take time of fix--no need to name names. Again, patience is required.
Patience won’t do anything. UTD fans should know. But you’re right, changes need to be made. I hope Amorim will be backed to enact some significant changes.
@@Yaskaqaali he does need to go but we need to keep him involved. He is benched for the whole of the remaing season, we will use £25m of his value. That will effect what we can spend
Rashford needs to go. The number on his back he's wearing now is an insult to all previous legends wearing it. Literally puts in no effort at all. He lost that hunger that eye of a tiger he's done
You must be aware that you’re talking about the most talented player in the history of football. Rashford is a legend, and will remain same till he retires.
@@Talimo-93garnacho’s been getting on my nerves as well but fuvking hell he’s like 7 yrs younger than rash , we should support and give him time he can learn and improve so much whilst rash can’t no more
Instead of blowing our heads off because of the result, we should see it as a reality check. Arsenal are good at corners and we didn’t prepare well enough. A lot of our players lack technical ability. we could not drive the ball forward without clutter
Its Amorim 4 th game and United are showing what structure nd system he is trying to play..we had more ball than the Arse at Emirates.. 4 months down th road we shall be very difficult to break down... but Amorim said " the fans and team are going to suffer" but we have to build a new structure nd shall be better long term..
I don’t mind the loss. United isn’t supposed to win this one. A couple of players played better than others. And arsenal got their goals and they deserved to win. Onto the next one.
How many times have rivals come to United when we were at our peak and gave us a game United haven’t won at the emirates for 8 years and we always get turned over we never go for it
As an Arsenal supporter, MU had me worried in 1st half. Bruno was centre of everything good that MU did in 1st half. Real signs of progress at MU. Looks like MU have found a manager that can take you to the next level.
Respect 🙌but yes it did take arsenal a couple seasons to become as big of a threat as they are with a top quality manager,it’s not long till man united will be competing again.The set pieces were great but they were the only times arsenal were lethal which implies united were solid defensively especially during the first half ,there were no open play goals from arsenal which shows an improvement from man united 🙌
haha you were shaking with all those passes back to maguire weren't you? absolutely scintillating football. WE DO WHAT WE WANT. WE PASS BACK TO OUR SHITE CBS WHEN WE WANT!
UGARTE AND DE LIGT WERE 7S EASILY TODAY. , so happy to see what our manager wants to do with the team , the first half was good controlled and measured, losing is always a disappointment but I can see change in our style of play and amorim will do well I'm sure of it.
he's awful. Go and watch him in that game vs spurs at spurs in his first season. Cost us the game and did the same against Sevilla. Brainless player doesn't read the game. Another one of 7hag's duds
Not good enough from the whole team. Rashford is soo over hyped we need to get rid of him rashford been very bad for way too long he’s getting to be like Anthony one dimensional and everyone knows how to pocket Rashford to the point Rashford don’t ever try to take a player on he just passes the ball with no movement he doesn’t even cut in and shot anymore simply not good enough I like Rashford as a person but this is football not who has a good personality lol
First of all, giving 13 corners to Arsenal is a big nono. It's like giving throw-ins to Rory Delap. Second of all, zonal marking does not work against this Arsenal setup. Why are they allowed to stand in a huddle on the far post and getting to run with momentum to the near post? Just a thought......Why not try man marking and actually go to the far post and stand with them in their huddle and stop each man from running and ruin their setup? Maybe simplistic but I haven't seen anyone try that.
@@1972dsrai That's what I thought. Watching the highlights they put it up on the screen....all the Arsenal players staying in a huddle in one end and nobody bothering about it. I thought that was weird. Normally when there is a gathering of people you wonder what is going on over there and check it out. 😁
Mark, Bruno and Garnacho are average players who will never show up consistently vs good teams or strong technical players. It is what it is. Hoping they will get better is like hoping Rashford will sprint and press like Mason Mount. Mount is also below average at this stage of the game. Starting that three up front was basic. None of those three could trouble Arsenal. Play 10 games and they’ll have zero impact in 8/9.
I don’t think he is rotating for those reasons.. I think players are being trained in between games… it’s the only way for him to work with the players in between games, after a few games he will start picking his eleven
💯usually I’d be upset after a loss but today was different ,I finally see a change in our team though of course we werent great but there’s hope again ,we’ve defo improved in amorims reign though it’s only been two games but I trust in him ,he’ll take us to the top hopefully
@@jamiwilliams2840Come on that was no different to Van Gaal ball. Constant sideways and passing backwards with no creativity whatsoever yawn yawn another fraud at our club
Arsenal have Odegaard but United fans will sit here and say Bruno is good enough for this football club. My word, we couldn’t even get up the pitch because he just gave the ball to them.
For long term, i dont think it will work with Bruno and Rashford leading the team. Rashford is the most senior attacker and cant be arsed, sets a bad example. Bruno kept us to a certain level sometimes but he wont drag a team to win the league if he cant set some players right on attitude
The truth is what Goldbride is saying: you can’t wash a car with a dirty cloth. It’s time this January to get rid of these players who have caused all the best managers to be sacked. Well, we can see that it’s not about the manager, but about players who can’t even control the ball or run to press it. Even the new manager has great talent and tactics, but with these players, we have no chance of winning any future Premier League.
It's the players and the manager too, for thw first time in around a decade manutd seems to have a play style building up slowly with the same useless players other coaches had.
More possession and more passes than Arsenal at the Emirates. They didn't look much better than us, happy with the performance tbh, proud even in 1st half 👍
Playing with 10 men with Rashford out there. Giving away that corner when he tried to flick and volley it out was inexcusable for a pro, someone his age and with his wages. He's just like Pogba. Needs his hand held and has no drive and competitive edge.
Mark let me explain to you as someone with no knowledge of tactics in football, why Garnacho was bad: The game plan was to make Garnacho carry the ball forward, invert, draw the defenders inside and then give ball to Malacia to cross it into the box (how we saw in training vid) What happened instead: Garnacho holding up the ball, showing off his "skills", slowing down the attacking tempo, trying to break through into the box to shoot, losing the ball to counter. Garnacho cost us 2-3 big chances
We controlled the game without creating much for 55 minutes. Arsenal won because of corners. This is a manager in game 4 vs one in year 6. Everyone relax, we will only get better as each match and training week goes by. Set your expectations for this season to be some good some bad as we're all learning this new system.
Ok Ab, people should chill out but not those on the pitch. I mean what's happening with Fernandez? He seems to be becoming a master in turning attack into defence and passes back more than forward
The team selection against Arsenal last night should have been: Onana, Yoro, DeLigt, Evans, Dalot, Casemiro/Bruno, Ugarte, Mazraoui, Amad, Hojlund & Rashford. Subs: Bayindir, Maguire, Malacia, Amass, Eriksen, Bruno, Mount, Gernacho, Zirkzee & Antony We expect an away win unfortunately the Head Coach chose a team to contained them instead of trying to win the game so we like to think he'll learn from this!
Manchester United had never lost 4 in a row against Arsenal even at our lowest be it Moyes era, Van Gaal era, Mou, Ole NEVER.. I think this group of players might be the worst in Manchester United's History, that's their LEGACY.
@ it actually does , if the majority dont understand football it can affect the manager whatever the fans want thats what the board will give you ! Rating player like deligt mazraoi macguire less that 6.5 this match is criminal! Putting unnecessary pressure on player who dont deserve it
@@wack... maybe to you it isnt, i pay to watch football it is a problem for me ! Maybe you dont care just because you dont care that everyone should think like you
you have no idea what sporting was in portugal before him because you english live in your little football bubble... Amorim is well aware of what the reality is.
Mount is a very good player in a very good team, but in a poor team he offers little. He would be effective at Arsenal, City, Chelsea or Liverpool. Not £60 million good though.
Rashford and garnacho have a lot of work to do still . Everybody keeps saying garnacho is young he will improve. We need to start seeing his improvement and rashford needs to chase back more as well as improving his decision making.
I liked the first half even though we weren't really attacking, but I saw us having more control over the game.. In the second half, I don't know if it was Amorim that instructed them to be more adventurous, which I didn't have a problem with, but we weren't organized when doing it, and if we weren't too timid, we could have put Arsenal under pressure.. It's obvious that some of these players will have to go, but Amorim is still able to simplify his ideas for the players to comprehend, yes, we did witness some old habits from the players, i mean, they started to panic and become less confident, but Arsenal who has been ripping teams apart could only beat us from two corners, but i believe we will come back stronger.. I didn't expect us to win, i just wanted us to perform, which we did for most of the game, then we went back to our old mentality.. I'm not going to bash anyone, I'm just going to shift my focus on the following match.. Well tried my team 👏👏
I’m glad no “new manager bounce” Amorim is getting the full view of it all that he needs to change asap, what kind of players need bringing in and who needs letting go. So I’m not bothered by the result, I look forward to what Amorim will do moving forward
Man Utd is the only club the holds managers to ransom with below average players.. Rashford would be long gone at any top club and he wouldn't be on stupid salary..
I know we’ll all be frustrated and disappointed with that. But it’s a great learning curve for Amorim. A few small positives aswell with Yoro coming in and defended expertly and Ugarte being brilliant in midfield
I was actually really impressed with how we performed in the first half. The second half wasn't great, but we're really starting to get a glimpse of the system Amorim is trying to integrate. The intensity has definitely increased, the defending has improved massively already & the players are looking to play more intelligent passes & runs. Loads more refining and quality is needed from the players, but it's great to see.
I like Amorim, seems very straight-talking and I think he'll be what you need if he's supported (beyond just financial support). Quite looking forward to future battles with you under Amorim, you were never going to beat us this time.
We were flat, but we will learn and improve. This however is his 4th game so far. We'll defo still win games and get beaten this season it's gonna be a tough first couple of seasons for Amorin and us fans, but we'll steadily improve under him.
Gives Bruno a 5, but Garnacho and Malacia get a 6 loool this guy You never learn do you Mark, you give long speeches about getting rid of toxicity but you keep on targetting certain players for long periods - now you have your eyes on Bruno. There is no other player with his IQ on the field, not even close. No way in hell he was worse than Garnacho or Malacia, wtf. Learn how to read the game as you usually say.
@@realife1542 So what? Make him play and create nothing? talented players are still good at young age watch Yamal. Rashy and martial were far better players at that age too
I remember saying we needed Zubimendi more than we needed Ugarte and today just proved it. There's a reason Luis Enrique let go of Ugarte he's not a progressive Midfielder how many times did we see the ball get to him only for him to pass it back to the defenders? Now add the fact he's playing alongside Bruno Fernandes you start to understand why Manchester United couldn't control the game in Midfield and why the Attackers got nothing and created nothing.
I’ll definitely say the first half was a brilliant tactical display, we really tried our best to maintain shape and composure. Second half we tried to be less compact and more proactive. Which made us lose shape and composure a lot💔especially with the substitutes
@@andrewonodje He wants the Players to all feel on board and important for the Project. I get it. But come on. Not against Arsenal in an away Game. Play your best Team. We need points.
The team play well...I think we definitely need a more experience stricker..Rasmus isn't ready n will not be ready for this season...Think.Amorin should go for Casemiro instead of Antony n push Bruno higher
What are you on about?we weren’t good first half,we had so much possession because Bruno was passing it back to defenders and they were passing among each other and the keeper,I don’t want to watch that crap
This manager needs to learn quick that he can't keep swapping the team around every game. If he sees Amad putting in world class performances then guess what, he keeps his spot dont drop him and the same for the midfield. I get it they are learning, but when you see players that play great in your formation, YOU KEEP THEM IN
There were a lot of changes to the starting line-up from the weekend. Then, there were a lot of changes during the game. I think eventually, we will get to a more settled team. At the moment, Amorim is trying players in a number of different positions to see how they perform. It's still all an experiment at the moment. That's how it is. We're just going to have to take the rough with the smooth for a while.
Good performance by United, good progress in lots of aspects of the game. 28 set piece goals by Arsenal this season, every team has fallen for their set piece strategy. No goals in open play, our defence can take credit for it. And the reason why the attack was missing is NOT because of defence.. it was Bruno and Mount not staging or 'mounting' the attack.
The best team won. Better on the night, better in general. The first half was such a positive. Amad was great when he came on, Yoro looked good, Ugarte had a good game, Fernandes played a very mature game in a deeper role.
Didn't expect to win. First half decent, but no real threat to score or win. Shows the building needed to reach the level. If we're going to compete against Arsenal, City, and Liverpool, there are some United players like Rashy, Bruno, Dalot, Antony, Zirkzee, Hojlund among others we MUST move on, else we'll NEVER reach that level.
It's funny as *uck watching Amorim's reactions to the players not being able to do the basics lol. But i see a lot of positives in the way he's wanting play
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Can people chill out?? Arsenal is very good, we have a new coach with an entire new system, AND we played at the Emirates. Can everyone relax??? Lolol yall act like we should never lose a game. Be realistic fam
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Correct, need to keep it in perspective. What did people expect?
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6 is average .. 5 is just not good enough.... 4 is crap.... Rashford did nothing to deserve a 5... but he did a lot to deserve a 4.... stop defending him with excuses... Maybe he was disappointed with himself for giving the corner away.... he SHOULD be a professional footballer... but YOU treat him like a little fragile boy.... he's 27... and not good enough
He jogged the whole time. Maybe he needs to prevent injury or something, but we can only talk about the display. A 4 for me too.
Mark is really weird with Rashford, he holds back all the time
Stop blame rashford for everything....we can't defend corners.....just because you are doing.....this still....you.... talking.... rubbish.....idiot
He knows all this about Rashford, but he has to play it down a bit otherwise he'll seem as though he's creating a pile on the guy.
Sometimes reality hurts, but it serves as a lesson in some cases
When Rashford came on we went down to 10 men. Disappointed with the nature of the goals but I was pleased with the fight and intensity. Thought Ugarte was superb.
Zirkzee as well made it 9 men no intensity lost the ball too often with silly one touch passes couldn’t hold up the ball once
Ugarte was good holding the ball..calming the play down but we need to see more progressive passes from him in the final third ! There were few chances today where he cudhve passed forward in transition and let arsenal have it but he played it back many times !
Garnacho was just as bad. It is just you are biased. I think we should get rid of them both
@@espenkaligrebrof9682 bro garnacho rashford bruno zirkzee can be sold ffs and i wont break a sweat ! Rashford and garnacho cant cross the ball if their life depended on it ! Them two zirkzee and Bruno cannot hold the ball .. Horrible first touch..makes me apprwciate lukakus first touch .. I aint biased bro ihve had enough w these subpar players ! Ugarte on the other hand i have high hopes for .. But being a 6 he stil needs to progess the ball like a deep playmaker sometimes !
@@sweekarkc3862 Bruno won't be sold and he is really not the problem. I agree Zirkzee looks slow for the PL, but I don't think he is the problem either.
Rashford and Garnacho are both the same - and they are both problems. No tracking back, no pressing, no effort.
If you have ballers around Bruno - like he has for Portugal - he is not so bad. The other too are always bad when it comes to the same things.
Maguire is also way too slow in his passing. Getting pressure so easily. Good he is leaving in the summer. I am sure he will!
RASHFORD STINKS THE PLACE OUT , so hard to watch him part of out team . I want hard workers and dedication to the badge then let your talent do the rest. I'm officially done with him.
Amorin learned a lot from this game and from the players too
The game wasn't as chaotic; we managed to keep Arsenal silent. The only problem was the set pieces; Casemiro would have made a difference. How many times have we seen him get his head on the ball on both sides? And Rashford was just unlucky, it could have been any corner.
@drukcg what?! Lol we had your wing backs on toast. Very wasteful
he learned that they are weak and mediocre in mentality
@@ikhuegbevictor2762 Amorim will get utd to challenge for the title in January
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In the 1st half, no. 2nd half, a bit more. You were more dangerous via Ødegaard and set pieces, just like have been and ever will be.
Rashford comes on and joggs every time..
Patience required. Didn't concede from open play. Need work on corners. First half we played to a strategy of don't lose the ball and forget about scoring. Just keep the ball. Don't have a problem with that. We've got roster problems that are going to take time of fix--no need to name names. Again, patience is required.
we didn't go all out because we are scared of Gabriel and calafiori absence ...we played careful....when we have them cone back for more
💯 correct
Patience won’t do anything. UTD fans should know. But you’re right, changes need to be made. I hope Amorim will be backed to enact some significant changes.
The current generation has no patience with the improvement process, they want everything immediately
Exactly. They defended Arsenal well. But United are extremely poor from set pieces and corners.
10th season for Rashford at Utd...
If he sticks around, we're done.
He needs to be sold anyone that disagrees is clueless clearly ,we’ve waited to long for change from him but no he disappoints again and again 😢
He's the embodiment of what's wrong with the club.
@@Yaskaqaali he does need to go but we need to keep him involved. He is benched for the whole of the remaing season, we will use £25m of his value. That will effect what we can spend
He's only a kid. Give him time
@@SuziesAshes10ahh yes 27 year old kid
Rashford needs to go. The number on his back he's wearing now is an insult to all previous legends wearing it. Literally puts in no effort at all. He lost that hunger that eye of a tiger he's done
Garnacho can follow him as well
You must be aware that you’re talking about the most talented player in the history of football. Rashford is a legend, and will remain same till he retires.
@@Talimo-93garnacho’s been getting on my nerves as well but fuvking hell he’s like 7 yrs younger than rash , we should support and give him time he can learn and improve so much whilst rash can’t no more
Again are you on drugs?
@@leonardowessel3646 😂😂
Having a coach in Amorim who knows how we lost and how and why we won is our biggest strength at this point.
Please Please please sell rashford 🙏 better for us get out rashford enough is enough
To the people who are crying about Arsenal's set piece. Everyone has the opportunity to get them, its free but Arsenal are just specialists atm.
Using zonal marking was naive and fell right into their hands. You have to msn mark them to cut the runs.
@@1972dsraiI don't why we use zonal marking..its rubbish
Zonal marking isn’t bad if you have players that will attack the ball and get it out, but we don’t have that
They did nothing to impede the run. Over and over Arsenal was able to get to their spot unmarked. That’s why
Amorim is only rotating so he knows who needs shipping out of the team. This game only revealed that
Club is in a mess. check the salary of those overrated, overhyped players.what club will come to buy those Deadwood.
Exactly.
And how do you know that? Did you have a private conversation with Amorim?
@@CaymenCiderHe’s in a s3xual relationship with Amorim
@CaymenCider it makes sense though there is a ton of united deadwood at the club so a clear out it is needed.
Instead of blowing our heads off because of the result, we should see it as a reality check. Arsenal are good at corners and we didn’t prepare well enough. A lot of our players lack technical ability. we could not drive the ball forward without clutter
Its Amorim 4 th game and United are showing what structure nd system he is trying to play..we had more ball than the Arse at Emirates.. 4 months down th road we shall be very difficult to break down... but Amorim said " the fans and team are going to suffer" but we have to build a new structure nd shall be better long term..
To defend that type of corner,you must catch it at the front post,someone that can jump 10-12 feet
I don’t mind the loss. United isn’t supposed to win this one. A couple of players played better than others. And arsenal got their goals and they deserved to win. Onto the next one.
How many times have rivals come to United when we were at our peak and gave us a game United haven’t won at the emirates for 8 years and we always get turned over we never go for it
As an Arsenal supporter, MU had me worried in 1st half. Bruno was centre of everything good that MU did in 1st half. Real signs of progress at MU. Looks like MU have found a manager that can take you to the next level.
Respect 🙌but yes it did take arsenal a couple seasons to become as big of a threat as they are with a top quality manager,it’s not long till man united will be competing again.The set pieces were great but they were the only times arsenal were lethal which implies united were solid defensively especially during the first half ,there were no open play goals from arsenal which shows an improvement from man united 🙌
United had you worried?
What actually worried you?
haha you were shaking with all those passes back to maguire weren't you? absolutely scintillating football. WE DO WHAT WE WANT. WE PASS BACK TO OUR SHITE CBS WHEN WE WANT!
Zirkee looked like a ballet dancer
Am happy with the way we played. Amorim is cooking something
Maybe he is cooking Turkey for Christmas 2025, sack Amorim is coming soon if he is unable to sell most of the star players.
SACK!!!AMORIM🤬😡😠😤
Lol a 2 - 0 loss is now considered cooking?
Yes, United are a work in progress, mate our manager is very new, dont be silly@@CaymenCider
@@lesleykhamuseb1331you can never say you’re cooking after a loss 😂. To be cooking you need to have at least a run of wins man
Garnacho is technically bankrupt and his decision making is poisonous! Malacia can’t press, if you don’t attack Arsenal viciously you’ll loose!
UGARTE AND DE LIGT WERE 7S EASILY TODAY. , so happy to see what our manager wants to do with the team , the first half was good controlled and measured, losing is always a disappointment but I can see change in our style of play and amorim will do well I'm sure of it.
De ligt will improve a lot under Amorim
malacia is not bad, guys pls thats quite good for some1 who has played in almost 500 years.
he is not bad ..but his pace is very poor even before the injury
he's awful. Go and watch him in that game vs spurs at spurs in his first season. Cost us the game and did the same against Sevilla. Brainless player doesn't read the game. Another one of 7hag's duds
Rashford is terrible.. I hope player fc have seen it... Terrible. Dalot is still average af
The truth is that it is not a question of quality, but of confidence and a winning mentality for this team to take off.
No its about quality but maturity personality respect drive. Our top earning players ate like little girls. No rwal men in squad
As long as United fans keep thinking they have quality players that will delight the rest of the league, sheer delusional
"The truth is that it is not a question of quality"
92 likes for this. How stupid is our fanbase. The quality is lacking, big time.
@@belinhobeli9569 It's a bot account with an AI generated TH-cam channel that pumps out nonsense, so the likes will most likely be bots too
This team will progress so much when Rashford is offloaded and replaced with a world class player. You’re down to 10 men with him on the pitch.
Like how we progressed after getting rid of pogba fred mctominay and all these other problem players ?
We played very well tonight, so give the coach time because we frustrated them when we had the ball
Not good enough from the whole team. Rashford is soo over hyped we need to get rid of him rashford been very bad for way too long he’s getting to be like Anthony one dimensional and everyone knows how to pocket Rashford to the point Rashford don’t ever try to take a player on he just passes the ball with no movement he doesn’t even cut in and shot anymore simply not good enough I like Rashford as a person but this is football not who has a good personality lol
First of all, giving 13 corners to Arsenal is a big nono. It's like giving throw-ins to Rory Delap. Second of all, zonal marking does not work against this Arsenal setup. Why are they allowed to stand in a huddle on the far post and getting to run with momentum to the near post? Just a thought......Why not try man marking and actually go to the far post and stand with them in their huddle and stop each man from running and ruin their setup? Maybe simplistic but I haven't seen anyone try that.
Using zonal marking cost them. It fell right into Arsenals hands.
@@1972dsrai That's what I thought. Watching the highlights they put it up on the screen....all the Arsenal players staying in a huddle in one end and nobody bothering about it. I thought that was weird. Normally when there is a gathering of people you wonder what is going on over there and check it out. 😁
Was thinking the exact same thing
Just visualize that, you’ll see the issue
80% of our players must go,as i said when amorim come to united
Hojlund’s first touch is a tackle
Mark, Bruno and Garnacho are average players who will never show up consistently vs good teams or strong technical players. It is what it is. Hoping they will get better is like hoping Rashford will sprint and press like Mason Mount. Mount is also below average at this stage of the game. Starting that three up front was basic. None of those three could trouble Arsenal. Play 10 games and they’ll have zero impact in 8/9.
Bit unfair to call Mark an average player. Hard to control the ball while sitting in a studio 100 miles away.
I don’t think he is rotating for those reasons.. I think players are being trained in between games… it’s the only way for him to work with the players in between games, after a few games he will start picking his eleven
It’s crazy how we lost but I can see what we’re trying to do, unlike the previous manager.
💯usually I’d be upset after a loss but today was different ,I finally see a change in our team though of course we werent great but there’s hope again ,we’ve defo improved in amorims reign though it’s only been two games but I trust in him ,he’ll take us to the top hopefully
Heads in sand. We know these players aren't good enough.
The system is much better than ten hags though. We are actually trying to play through the middle now. The players have to get used to that
@@jamiwilliams2840Come on that was no different to Van Gaal ball. Constant sideways and passing backwards with no creativity whatsoever yawn yawn another fraud at our club
Rashford was horrible😢
Arsenal have Odegaard but United fans will sit here and say Bruno is good enough for this football club. My word, we couldn’t even get up the pitch because he just gave the ball to them.
Bruno is a mid table player
amount of times we won the ball
back after a solid step up from the back 5 then aimless toss it back to them
There aren’t many players like Odegaard tbf
To them? He played deep
a mid table player at best on 300k. embarrassing
Lineup wasn't good from the start but as good as Arsenal is right now trust me we'll never move forward with players like Rashford & Bruno 👍
For long term, i dont think it will work with Bruno and Rashford leading the team. Rashford is the most senior attacker and cant be arsed, sets a bad example. Bruno kept us to a certain level sometimes but he wont drag a team to win the league if he cant set some players right on attitude
The truth is what Goldbride is saying: you can’t wash a car with a dirty cloth. It’s time this January to get rid of these players who have caused all the best managers to be sacked. Well, we can see that it’s not about the manager, but about players who can’t even control the ball or run to press it. Even the new manager has great talent and tactics, but with these players, we have no chance of winning any future Premier League.
It's the players and the manager too, for thw first time in around a decade manutd seems to have a play style building up slowly with the same useless players other coaches had.
The team has better shape and movement now
Garnacho was horrendous. He got on the ball several times and could not control the ball
No one will talk about that mate trust me
Lol how many times did he lose the ball? I think you need to watch more
Didnt attempt to take on his opposite number once, just ran at him stopped and passed back every single time
Rashford and Bruno please leave the club as soon as possible
And Shaw & Slabbo
I get the whole rotation thing but Amad was the best player against Everton, he should have started.
More possession and more passes than Arsenal at the Emirates. They didn't look much better than us, happy with the performance tbh, proud even in 1st half 👍
Statistically you in fact did not have more possession.
Playing with 10 men with Rashford out there. Giving away that corner when he tried to flick and volley it out was inexcusable for a pro, someone his age and with his wages. He's just like Pogba. Needs his hand held and has no drive and competitive edge.
We conceded two corners no way our centerbacks get such a high rating
defending corners is a team effort
Bruno and Rashford need to leave this club, enough is enough
I think Bruno keep Marcus trust me
Loan Bruno, sell rashford.
Mark let me explain to you as someone with no knowledge of tactics in football, why Garnacho was bad:
The game plan was to make Garnacho carry the ball forward, invert, draw the defenders inside and then give ball to Malacia to cross it into the box (how we saw in training vid)
What happened instead: Garnacho holding up the ball, showing off his "skills", slowing down the attacking tempo, trying to break through into the box to shoot, losing the ball to counter.
Garnacho cost us 2-3 big chances
We controlled the game without creating much for 55 minutes. Arsenal won because of corners. This is a manager in game 4 vs one in year 6. Everyone relax, we will only get better as each match and training week goes by. Set your expectations for this season to be some good some bad as we're all learning this new system.
Bruno lost the ball more than anyone on the pitch but pass rate was over 80% 😂
Mark has been on a roll against bruno lately. He's playing deep with ugarte with clearly being told to not do the long passes too much.
Your schmeichel and van der sar would never have been bullied like that.
Wrong. Look at the set pieces. The Arsenal players block Onana in coming out. The refs allow it so we can't do anything about it
Celebrating 50% possession when you had like 6,7 touches in our box is a joke in itself passing from deligt to maguire all game was horrible to watch
Ok Ab, people should chill out but not those on the pitch. I mean what's happening with Fernandez? He seems to be becoming a master in turning attack into defence and passes back more than forward
The team selection against Arsenal last night should have been: Onana, Yoro, DeLigt, Evans, Dalot, Casemiro/Bruno, Ugarte, Mazraoui, Amad, Hojlund & Rashford.
Subs: Bayindir, Maguire, Malacia, Amass, Eriksen, Bruno, Mount, Gernacho, Zirkzee & Antony
We expect an away win unfortunately the Head Coach chose a team to contained them instead of trying to win the game so we like to think he'll learn from this!
Your rating system is worthless when a 5.5 is clearly equivalent to a 0. Rashford and Zirkzee both earned a P45 in this match.
P45😂😂😂😂😂
Anthony was better than Rashford tonight
Rashford wont leave and the board wont sell him. Get used to years with Rashford to come. He is the poster boy and a boy of Manchester.
No other club would pay even half what he ‘earns’ At United.
Manchester United had never lost 4 in a row against Arsenal even at our lowest be it Moyes era, Van Gaal era, Mou, Ole NEVER.. I think this group of players might be the worst in Manchester United's History, that's their LEGACY.
Ciamgrandaofficial. You were relegated in 1974. That team was worse than this one.
We need quality strikers, there is no attack from United
There’s fear and lack of confidence from our attackers ,we need brave and confident ,lethal attackers
ManUtd miss a midfielder like Odegaard
If you make a mistake you need to concentrate and make amends. We have players who get very discouraged when they make errors.
Mazouri, de ligt, yoro, martinez, mount, hojlund, amad, onana, ugarte, mainoo, dalot keep. The rest should all be available to be moved on
Ain’t challenging for anything with those lot ether lol still bang average
I agree but they are probably the players that suit the system best
What you find that Mount does that’s worth keeping? (WITH the ball)
😂mount and dalot? Are u serious??
Garnacho? Zirkzee?
It's actually a shame when you realise most ppl don't understand football
Is it a shame? It doesn’t really matter tbh
@ it actually does , if the majority dont understand football it can affect the manager whatever the fans want thats what the board will give you ! Rating player like deligt mazraoi macguire less that 6.5 this match is criminal! Putting unnecessary pressure on player who dont deserve it
@@wordlessman1759 yeah but what I meant was. It’s not really a true problem is it. It’s just football
@@wack... maybe to you it isnt, i pay to watch football it is a problem for me ! Maybe you dont care just because you dont care that everyone should think like you
Not to bothered by this result. Only few games into amorim.
you have no idea what sporting was in portugal before him because you english live in your little football bubble... Amorim is well aware of what the reality is.
True pal,well said!👍👹
At this point don’t get the point of Mount. He presses ok but that’s it. The amount of deadwood in this club lmfao
Mount is a very good player in a very good team, but in a poor team he offers little.
He would be effective at Arsenal, City, Chelsea or Liverpool. Not £60 million good though.
Rashford and garnacho have a lot of work to do still . Everybody keeps saying garnacho is young he will improve.
We need to start seeing his improvement and rashford needs to chase back more as well as improving his decision making.
I liked the first half even though we weren't really attacking, but I saw us having more control over the game.. In the second half, I don't know if it was Amorim that instructed them to be more adventurous, which I didn't have a problem with, but we weren't organized when doing it, and if we weren't too timid, we could have put Arsenal under pressure.. It's obvious that some of these players will have to go, but Amorim is still able to simplify his ideas for the players to comprehend, yes, we did witness some old habits from the players, i mean, they started to panic and become less confident, but Arsenal who has been ripping teams apart could only beat us from two corners, but i believe we will come back stronger.. I didn't expect us to win, i just wanted us to perform, which we did for most of the game, then we went back to our old mentality.. I'm not going to bash anyone, I'm just going to shift my focus on the following match.. Well tried my team 👏👏
Best comment here!
Sadly current Man utd squad is mid table quality..they don't have the ability to play pressing or attacking football against quality teams..
I’m glad no “new manager bounce” Amorim is getting the full view of it all that he needs to change asap, what kind of players need bringing in and who needs letting go. So I’m not bothered by the result, I look forward to what Amorim will do moving forward
Man Utd is the only club the holds managers to ransom with below average players..
Rashford would be long gone at any top club and he wouldn't be on stupid salary..
Amorim’s loyalty to Rashford and Bruno will get him the sack like all the others that came before him
U read my mind, especially Rashford, United will never get better woth Rashford 🙄
Fair play Stoke
I know we’ll all be frustrated and disappointed with that. But it’s a great learning curve for Amorim. A few small positives aswell with Yoro coming in and defended expertly and Ugarte being brilliant in midfield
I was actually really impressed with how we performed in the first half. The second half wasn't great, but we're really starting to get a glimpse of the system Amorim is trying to integrate. The intensity has definitely increased, the defending has improved massively already & the players are looking to play more intelligent passes & runs. Loads more refining and quality is needed from the players, but it's great to see.
6:58 real 🙌 well said Mark
Good manager, new attacking system, bunch of physically and mentally unfit players. What to expect?
Ugarte, DeLigt and Mazroui all look like good signings and decent value.
That's positive and a real change.
I like Amorim, seems very straight-talking and I think he'll be what you need if he's supported (beyond just financial support). Quite looking forward to future battles with you under Amorim, you were never going to beat us this time.
We were flat, but we will learn and improve. This however is his 4th game so far. We'll defo still win games and get beaten this season it's gonna be a tough first couple of seasons for Amorin and us fans, but we'll steadily improve under him.
When will people realise we shouldn't be thinking too much about the results this season 🤷♂️
I don’t think we were bad
Did literally nothing all game
In the first half before the sub
Very bad when attacking .
Arsenal weren't good so we were really bad
THE DAY AMORIM STARTS AMAD AT RIGHT 10 , MAZZA AT RIGHT WING BACK AND LENY YORO AT RCB!!!🎉🎉🎉
Ugarte 6!
Bruno vs Kobbie for 8!?!?!? 🤨
Malacia at Left wing back. 🙏🏿
Giving garnacho and holjund a 6, come on be serious
Its clear Bruno dont suit the way Amorim wants to play. I think his days are numbered.
Agreed
Gives Bruno a 5, but Garnacho and Malacia get a 6 loool this guy
You never learn do you Mark, you give long speeches about getting rid of toxicity but you keep on targetting certain players for long periods - now you have your eyes on Bruno. There is no other player with his IQ on the field, not even close. No way in hell he was worse than Garnacho or Malacia, wtf. Learn how to read the game as you usually say.
Some one say lumping the ball forward is low iq, unless he played for stoke of course. You over rate him , that’s your problem
@@RushtyShpoonrightly said
Mark never rates Bruno and Casemiro, but loves Garnacho lol
@@cactusjack253Garnacho is still a young player
@@realife1542 So what? Make him play and create nothing? talented players are still good at young age watch Yamal. Rashy and martial were far better players at that age too
Just face it guys they are a average group of players, Rashford,Zirkzee and Hojland and garnacho are not good enough to be front men
I remember saying we needed Zubimendi more than we needed Ugarte and today just proved it. There's a reason Luis Enrique let go of Ugarte he's not a progressive Midfielder how many times did we see the ball get to him only for him to pass it back to the defenders? Now add the fact he's playing alongside Bruno Fernandes you start to understand why Manchester United couldn't control the game in Midfield and why the Attackers got nothing and created nothing.
Ugarte had more forward passes and runs than Bruno. Also more tackles and area covered than Bruno.
Ugarte works in this system he’s already done it with Amorim give the lad time
I’ll definitely say the first half was a brilliant tactical display, we really tried our best to maintain shape and composure. Second half we tried to be less compact and more proactive. Which made us lose shape and composure a lot💔especially with the substitutes
Leny Yoro!!What a player we have in our hands.Amorim's the right man to balance his minutes as well.
That Starting Line Up is like putting a Gun to the head. Gave ourselves absolutely no Chance! Zero Threat !
Too much rotation from the last game was our undoing...
Amad should have started this game!
@@andrewonodje He wants the Players to all feel on board and important for the Project. I get it. But come on. Not against Arsenal in an away Game. Play your best Team. We need points.
The team play well...I think we definitely need a more experience stricker..Rasmus isn't ready n will not be ready for this season...Think.Amorin should go for Casemiro instead of Antony n push Bruno higher
What are you on about?we weren’t good first half,we had so much possession because Bruno was passing it back to defenders and they were passing among each other and the keeper,I don’t want to watch that crap
Mark 'everyone's invoked to an opinion'
Also Mark - gets bent out of shape when he doesn't agree woth someone 😂
@curtiscovino been here for years, I know what he's like, I think it's worth highlighting his hypocrisy
This manager needs to learn quick that he can't keep swapping the team around every game. If he sees Amad putting in world class performances then guess what, he keeps his spot dont drop him and the same for the midfield. I get it they are learning, but when you see players that play great in your formation, YOU KEEP THEM IN
You seem to not understand fitness levels?
You playing to much fifa bud
How did Luke Shaw get on?
There were a lot of changes to the starting line-up from the weekend. Then, there were a lot of changes during the game. I think eventually, we will get to a more settled team. At the moment, Amorim is trying players in a number of different positions to see how they perform. It's still all an experiment at the moment. That's how it is. We're just going to have to take the rough with the smooth for a while.
Good performance by United, good progress in lots of aspects of the game. 28 set piece goals by Arsenal this season, every team has fallen for their set piece strategy. No goals in open play, our defence can take credit for it. And the reason why the attack was missing is NOT because of defence.. it was Bruno and Mount not staging or 'mounting' the attack.
The best team won. Better on the night, better in general. The first half was such a positive. Amad was great when he came on, Yoro looked good, Ugarte had a good game, Fernandes played a very mature game in a deeper role.
Didn't expect to win. First half decent, but no real threat to score or win. Shows the building needed to reach the level. If we're going to compete against Arsenal, City, and Liverpool, there are some United players like Rashy, Bruno, Dalot, Antony, Zirkzee, Hojlund among others we MUST move on, else we'll NEVER reach that level.
Hit the nail on the head our big players aren't stepping up period.
Malacia, Yoro and de ligt looked bright honestly
It's funny as *uck watching Amorim's reactions to the players not being able to do the basics lol. But i see a lot of positives in the way he's wanting play