I bought mine in March. It’s such a cruiser. The V8 loafs along on the highway and it’s the perfect size for nimbleness when passing/merging and of course that glorious engine note 😊
Bought my IS500 in the summer this year. Flew into Missouri and purchased it from the first owner and drove 8 hours back to Detroit. Been really loving it and I'm running the rr racing bazooka exhaust on it and it truly brings out the character of the v8 compared to the stock exhaust.
I have an '08 IS F and I would describe these cars as JRM, Japanese Refined Muscle. Athletic yet Gentlemanly. It's all about the driving experience and this car hits the target. So much fun to drive. I don't ever want to sell my "Red Barchetta".
Oh boy, been looking for an IS and RC 350's along with a 24 Camaro. The big V8's are fantastic but for 10K less you get a lot of the same cars with less ins. cost, better gas "regular" mileage rarity and quality. I spend 90% just keeping up with traffic. GREAT video Kirk
i had a rc-350-f sport, and as much as i loved that car, when i lost a stop light drag race to a 4 banger turbo accord, it had to go. i now have an RCF and would never go back. the fuel economy between the two isnt as drastic as you would think under normal driving conditions.
Put a deposit down on a 24 IS 500 Iridium. Supposed to arrive at my dealer before the end of the month! How much do you love the Iridium on a scale of 1-10? I’m assuming an 11
Love your videos. Two stage pedal is an awesome luxury feature and found in most german cars. Just like two stage switches one windows for manual up or down to desired spot using first stage or auto all the way up or down using second stage. The first stage does one thing and the second stage does another. First stage pedal accelerates without downshifting, second stage accelerates with down shift. Much better than not having two stages. There are times you want to accelerate without downshifting, others you want to downshift. If you want to downshift just smash the pedal, if not, go easier until the first stop. Great luxury feature.
Bought it and sold the Launch Edition when they released the special edition. Incognito color on this 2024. Basically made me pay a premium for one that was standard 2 years later. It’s a great engine and car though.
I miss my IS 500 2023. It held up really well over 5000Miles, fantastic car. The biggest takeaway vs my RC F is the IS 500 has a softer suspension on normal mode and Sport S gets you a bit more nimble and stiff, S+ gets even more hard while Normal in the RC F is Sport S+ in the IS. Ultimately IS will be super comfortable for longer cruises like over 300miles, while RC F is way too stiff its a plus and a minus, plus is RC F chassis is extremely strong. Minus is IS has way too much body roll, it cannot go beyond 150Mph. Brakes are weaker, also IS has 4 doors which is superb for many. Biggest con is lack of leather on a 70K car, it has Auto mirrors finally in 2025 MY. And also the flaw is, bumper sag. It cannot be fixed because Lexus under engineered the chassis for the heavy 2UR-GSE sadly the bumper will sag eventually community fix is only way as lexus TSB is a shame, this company is dead for their future grab these while you can. Aisin A80E is way quick if you control it up 4K RPM range band. RC F has 2 stage pedal too, but the F car is a truly remarkable machine. Like the IS 500, it's a very nice car.
for the triple low beam not reaching far enough, theres a video by Hyperboost, where you have to use a wrench or a screwdriver to adjust the low beams to make them point higher
“Two stage pedal” = “kickdown”. It’s on a ton of cars, but most folks don’t know it’s there. It’s used to force the automatic transmission to “kickdown” into a lower gear.
i didn't even realize it was there until I took mine out to the Florida Keys and pushed the pedal as hard as I could. I was like wait this pedal goes down more haha
Its also for the speed limiter which you can use instead of the cruise control. To go above the set speed you have to go beyond this barrier. All of the cars with this feature have those two stages in the pedal.
@@ryancolebourn3060The idea is that you can overrule the set speed limit by going beyond this "hump" in the acceleration pedal. So you still can accelerate when overtaking for example. When the limiter would be without this function dangerous situations can occur because you could hit the limit when you forgot to cancel it and not overtake fast enough and get into oncoming traffic.
It's been revealed that the 2025 will have new BBS forged wheels and FINALLY power-folding side mirrors. So, other than those two changes, nothing major. You could just buy this 2024 and be perfectly happy.
it’s a great car-if you want absolute perfection then build your own or customize it the way you want….i really dislike the constant criticism of the is ….it is still a badass car-peace
V8 in a Lexus sedan, almost seem unreal. This is the generation of Lexus I thought the interior looked the best. The analog clock is iconic. When I wanted to buy a Lexus, this was the interior I wanted, the new modernized ones look cheap.
I owned an IS 350 with the standard high beams and an IS 500 with the triple beams. I agree with you - the standard headlights seemed to light up the road better than the triple beams. The triple beams look much better stylistically... so there's that. 😂
The base IS500 exists on paper only. Asked the dealer and Lexus will only build the Premium trim for $5k more…and then nickel and dime you for another grand or two of optional accessories.
I envy you americans, only 70k $ total 😅 If we want to order IS 500 we would need to pay 101K $ total including shipping import tax, big engine tax etc 😢
@@unkemptharold9264 Holy crap that is insane, also goes into my argument why the IS500 is not that worth it given the price is so close to a barely used LC500 which is superior
It goes both ways, I'll bet. With the M340i, I'd get a much more modern car with better performance, but I'd be missing out on a great V-8 and Lexus reliability.
I had the m340I brand new 2022. Drove it 65KIsh miles. It was nice and speedy but I have a baby now and wife sits in the back. Also wanted reliability so this was the only option for me to go with.
Great car and an alt to the 340i market options. Gives a lower price point to modifiy to the enthusiast trying to get into Lexus performance and gives a great basis to build on to kinda make it not quite a F car but your own idea of what that is. Great car.
i think Lexus should hire the Singer team that restomods Porsche’s to co develop a timeless sports car interior, exterior, and engine wise 👀🤔. wish Lexus brought back no screen options 😭
the bmw 740il has a pedal that feels like a button when you push it all the way through to get it to downshift, havent driven an is500 but it might be the same feel as it
Yikes. Maybe decline the next IS500 Lexus delivers? This review seemed so painful for you. This is old, that is old… I hate this, I hate that… After the last LC video, I was surprised to see you in the IS500 again. The brakes are geared to not upset the occupants. If you hit them (like on the autocross at the Lexus Performance Driving School), that bad boy will stop on a dime. 😎 Most owners I know absolutely love the old school muscle vibe with the modern day safety tech.
Needs an exhuast a built 10 speed in this car. The LC500 weighs 400lbs more but post identical 1/4 mile times to the IS even though both have an identical engine
Just got the is 350 anyone feel like the car is uncomfortable when it comes to stepping on the break pedal like idk what it is but it just feels like either the brake pedal is too high or something and that it’s placed too much in the middle
Two stage pedal? Do you mean a kickdown switch? Germans cars have something kinda like what you decribe. I know a 2015 VW passat has it lol. Basically in german cars that have it, it acts has a "drop to the highest gear possible for max acceleration". Edit: did some research and yeah its a kickdown switch in an IS500. Popular among german cars. No clue Lexus would use it. IMO a little pointless but know my camaro 10 speed has a "hidden" kick down switch. Basically if you are in sport mode and jab the thottle it will automatically downshift to the highest gear available for max acceleration. Alternative if i put it in manual mode and hold the left paddle down it does the same thing
If I’m gonna get the 5.0 V8 I’m getting an LC500, as of now my 15 GS fsport, 21 IS350 dynamic handling, and 21 RX are more than enough Lexus than I need at the moment 😂until I get my GX500
I wish they stopped with the f sport trim and kept the performance based models as ‘F’. If they want a sporty body trim it could just be called sport or aero 🤔
Yeah they are all way too low from the factory. Although the real problem is the sharp cutoff. If they had a more diffuse cutoff it would be fairly ok. With the sharp cutoff it's a real balancing act aiming them higher without blinding other drivers.
...but only at the back 🤔. I wonder if it's to satisfy some silly outdated law in one country somewhere? I have a Gen 3 2019 IS Premier edition - it has LED indicators up front and incandescents at the back - I believe the only 'old school' bulbs in the whole damn car!
@@NotNowCato1254 The footwell, visor, trunk interior, and front door courtesy bulbs are incandescent for whatever reason, which is kind of silly since all the other interior lights are LED. Kind of jarring having that color temp difference. I replaced them all on mine
ALL Lexus never stack up to the competition. sure, they have a niche market and its more apparent with the v8 engine. but it is just too boring for the audience that's being targeted at the end of the day... it takes a different person to buy this, and there just simply isn't enough of them to keep it going...
Lol it's not boring. It's called having a split personality. Unlike a 3-series, which has super touchy brakes, stabby throttle, and fast steering to remind you how sporty it is at all times, this car just drives normally. But you can always click it into S+ Mode and go ham. If a RWD V-8 sport sedan is boring, that's on you.
@@ARentz07 I mean go look at sales numbers between the two. The 3 series has always been the benchmark since the 2000's that Lexus is in the "pursuit" of..
I’m a simple man. I see an IS 500 video I click on it.
I get it ❤
I’m with you dude!
Cheers
I Have one and do the same lol
Same
That thing is going to be a classic
I bought mine in March. It’s such a cruiser. The V8 loafs along on the highway and it’s the perfect size for nimbleness when passing/merging and of course that glorious engine note 😊
The car exterior is absolutely gorgeous
Bought my IS500 in the summer this year. Flew into Missouri and purchased it from the first owner and drove 8 hours back to Detroit. Been really loving it and I'm running the rr racing bazooka exhaust on it and it truly brings out the character of the v8 compared to the stock exhaust.
I have an '08 IS F and I would describe these cars as JRM, Japanese Refined Muscle. Athletic yet Gentlemanly. It's all about the driving experience and this car hits the target. So much fun to drive. I don't ever want to sell my "Red Barchetta".
Oh boy, been looking for an IS and RC 350's along with a 24 Camaro. The big V8's are fantastic but for 10K less you get a lot of the same cars with less ins. cost, better gas "regular" mileage rarity and quality. I spend 90% just keeping up with traffic. GREAT video Kirk
i had a rc-350-f sport, and as much as i loved that car, when i lost a stop light drag race to a 4 banger turbo accord, it had to go. i now have an RCF and would never go back. the fuel economy between the two isnt as drastic as you would think under normal driving conditions.
@@motaz1975 Agree, plus with lots of work and the Lexus ivory it's a RACE CAR!
that v8 is going to hold its resale value for a longggg time to come tho just something to factor in
Love my 22 IS500 Iridium. See ya on down the road!
Put a deposit down on a 24 IS 500 Iridium. Supposed to arrive at my dealer before the end of the month! How much do you love the Iridium on a scale of 1-10? I’m assuming an 11
Got the 24' IS500 in Ultra White! I love it!!
Love your videos. Two stage pedal is an awesome luxury feature and found in most german cars. Just like two stage switches one windows for manual up or down to desired spot using first stage or auto all the way up or down using second stage. The first stage does one thing and the second stage does another. First stage pedal accelerates without downshifting, second stage accelerates with down shift. Much better than not having two stages. There are times you want to accelerate without downshifting, others you want to downshift. If you want to downshift just smash the pedal, if not, go easier until the first stop. Great luxury feature.
One of the many cars I truly love to see plus the way it sounds man you gotta love that V8 purr
Bought it and sold the Launch Edition when they released the special edition. Incognito color on this 2024. Basically made me pay a premium for one that was standard 2 years later. It’s a great engine and car though.
If only Lexus made a wagon version of this car like the old IS sport wagon!
Oh yea, that's a great idea 👎
I miss my IS 500 2023. It held up really well over 5000Miles, fantastic car. The biggest takeaway vs my RC F is the IS 500 has a softer suspension on normal mode and Sport S gets you a bit more nimble and stiff, S+ gets even more hard while Normal in the RC F is Sport S+ in the IS. Ultimately IS will be super comfortable for longer cruises like over 300miles, while RC F is way too stiff its a plus and a minus, plus is RC F chassis is extremely strong. Minus is IS has way too much body roll, it cannot go beyond 150Mph. Brakes are weaker, also IS has 4 doors which is superb for many. Biggest con is lack of leather on a 70K car, it has Auto mirrors finally in 2025 MY. And also the flaw is, bumper sag. It cannot be fixed because Lexus under engineered the chassis for the heavy 2UR-GSE sadly the bumper will sag eventually community fix is only way as lexus TSB is a shame, this company is dead for their future grab these while you can. Aisin A80E is way quick if you control it up 4K RPM range band. RC F has 2 stage pedal too, but the F car is a truly remarkable machine. Like the IS 500, it's a very nice car.
Love the history in the beginning. Well done.
It was introduced in 2020. I own and love #46/500 Launch Edition. Great GT vehicle!
for the triple low beam not reaching far enough, theres a video by Hyperboost, where you have to use a wrench or a screwdriver to adjust the low beams to make them point higher
Can you share the link ?
Don’t be a douche and make them point higher
“Two stage pedal” = “kickdown”. It’s on a ton of cars, but most folks don’t know it’s there. It’s used to force the automatic transmission to “kickdown” into a lower gear.
i didn't even realize it was there until I took mine out to the Florida Keys and pushed the pedal as hard as I could. I was like wait this pedal goes down more haha
@@voyager.4x4 Correct! And all 3rd-gen IS models have it. It's not like it's new to this IS 500.
Its also for the speed limiter which you can use instead of the cruise control. To go above the set speed you have to go beyond this barrier.
All of the cars with this feature have those two stages in the pedal.
@@dukesim6088 what? that’s not sounding right. care to explain your idea further?
@@ryancolebourn3060The idea is that you can overrule the set speed limit by going beyond this "hump" in the acceleration pedal. So you still can accelerate when overtaking for example. When the limiter would be without this function dangerous situations can occur because you could hit the limit when you forgot to cancel it and not overtake fast enough and get into oncoming traffic.
That “2 stage pedal” is a kickdown switch. Also present in Mazdas and almost all european cars
Kirk, I hope the V8 is still around when the IS wagon returns. 😉
the only difference is that the 2025 IS is going to have power folding mirrors
Different wheel design on the optional BBSs too.
It will also make more features standard on the 350 F sport and 500 models
might be late to the party… but looking in to buying one… would love some insight on which year is best for the 500?? I’d appreciate any feedback :)
It is one of most reliable v8 still alive on Japanese sedan. Nothing more to say!
They should have gotten rid of the middle seat in the rear, then made the rear seats more comfortable. Nobody is riding 5 deep in an IS.
i ❤my fsport 350….if the insurance didn’t skyrocket i would get one but my current one same color is excellent
Hey Kirk, you should hear the IS 500 rev with a custom exhaust, like the ones from RR Racing. It should increase the satisfaction.
I'm running the rr racing bazooka exhaust on my is500. It really brings the 2UR GSE alive
@@shaunjose3797
Glad for you bro ✊
I have the sc430 and the v8 is just masterpiece even after 19years it still runs like butter😂 and i get 22mpg 😂😂
I wanted one of these so bad! Transmission ruined the car for me though. Still a great looking car with a great motor.
It's been revealed that the 2025 will have new BBS forged wheels and FINALLY power-folding side mirrors. So, other than those two changes, nothing major. You could just buy this 2024 and be perfectly happy.
My dream car is a V8 Lexus 🔥❤
Keep them night reviews coming
Don't forget it's the last NA v8 4 door sedan sold in the US.
*stares at the caddy ct5v blackwing*
@ sorry forgot the NA part
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 its supercharged.
@carboydorifutoparty3976 CT5-V BW has a supercharger. The IS 500 doesn't. That's what he meant by "NA". Naturally-aspirated.
I wish they made an "ISF" and adressed the issues you pointed out, soft brakes, lack of optional exhaust or valve system, better shifting etc
3:08 Two changes! I’m holding out for a 2025 because it adds power folding mirrors. The optional wheels also have a new design.
it’s a great car-if you want absolute perfection then build your own or customize it the way you want….i really dislike the constant criticism of the is ….it is still a badass car-peace
I’m hearing that they’re about to get rid of the EPA CAFE standards which is chiefly responsible for the death of the V8s and V10s
V8 in a Lexus sedan, almost seem unreal. This is the generation of Lexus I thought the interior looked the best. The analog clock is iconic. When I wanted to buy a Lexus, this was the interior I wanted, the new modernized ones look cheap.
I owned an IS 350 with the standard high beams and an IS 500 with the triple beams. I agree with you - the standard headlights seemed to light up the road better than the triple beams. The triple beams look much better stylistically... so there's that. 😂
The base IS500 exists on paper only.
Asked the dealer and Lexus will only build the Premium trim for $5k more…and then nickel and dime you for another grand or two of optional accessories.
I only wish the IS500 wasn't as rare, I love it but I can justify almost 70k for an engine swapped IS350
I envy you americans, only 70k $ total 😅
If we want to order IS 500 we would need to pay 101K $ total including shipping import tax, big engine tax etc 😢
@@unkemptharold9264 Holy crap that is insane, also goes into my argument why the IS500 is not that worth it given the price is so close to a barely used LC500 which is superior
@@MR3DDevYes at least LC is not exclusive to US, so more sense to buy LC.
I would pick this over an M340i, but I’d feel like I’m missing out the whole time.
It goes both ways, I'll bet. With the M340i, I'd get a much more modern car with better performance, but I'd be missing out on a great V-8 and Lexus reliability.
I had the m340I brand new 2022. Drove it 65KIsh miles. It was nice and speedy but I have a baby now and wife sits in the back. Also wanted reliability so this was the only option for me to go with.
It’s hot as hell
Beautiful colour!
Luv it Kirk…its nice 😁👍🏾
Great car and an alt to the 340i market options. Gives a lower price point to modifiy to the enthusiast trying to get into Lexus performance and gives a great basis to build on to kinda make it not quite a F car but your own idea of what that is. Great car.
How do they fit a V8in a small car? I want to see that engine. Wow
it has a hood bulge to accomodate the large v8, and also the quad stack exhaust in the rear
Yet they couldn't fit one in the LS. What a bunch of gutless clowns.
The front end is actually longer than the 350 as well
@@D.B-m8iThey could've done it, but they were using the LS to show off their newfangled V-6 twin-turbo engine.
Gonna drive mines til the wheels fall off...
@hvnguyen510 I love this comment, wise choice.
Reminds me of my GSF….
It’s exactly like the GSF in character. Just not as big, which is my preference.
i think Lexus should hire the Singer team that restomods Porsche’s to co develop a timeless sports car interior, exterior, and engine wise 👀🤔. wish Lexus brought back no screen options 😭
I really want one!
Quite sure you can adjust the low beams for further projection distance
If I could afford that, I would save more, and get an LC 500.
This Camry looks kinda nice. Still prefer the original tho
the bmw 740il has a pedal that feels like a button when you push it all the way through to get it to downshift, havent driven an is500 but it might be the same feel as it
Yikes. Maybe decline the next IS500 Lexus delivers? This review seemed so painful for you. This is old, that is old… I hate this, I hate that… After the last LC video, I was surprised to see you in the IS500 again. The brakes are geared to not upset the occupants. If you hit them (like on the autocross at the Lexus Performance Driving School), that bad boy will stop on a dime. 😎 Most owners I know absolutely love the old school muscle vibe with the modern day safety tech.
I've got a 2016 IS 300 AWD and I want the 500 soooo bad
Im thinking of getting the 500, but I live in the Midwest & winters are harsh over here. So I think the 350 AWD might be the way to go sadly 😢😢😢
@ get a cheap winter car
My first Lexus was also a 2016 IS 300 AWD, and I've got a 2023 IS 500 now. Totally worth it.
Needs an exhuast a built 10 speed in this car. The LC500 weighs 400lbs more but post identical 1/4 mile times to the IS even though both have an identical engine
I have a 2015 Audi SQ5 and I also have a 2 stage gas pedal and I can confirm that it is very weird
For 2025 the IS receives standard power folding mirrors.
I think BMW had the two stage gas pedal like that too my ISF has the same thing.
Just got the is 350 anyone feel like the car is uncomfortable when it comes to stepping on the break pedal like idk what it is but it just feels like either the brake pedal is too high or something and that it’s placed too much in the middle
i would love to buy this car if it came with a manual and it deletes that interior touch pad lmao not a fan of that anymore.
its a touch screen too so who care about the pad.
@@motaz1975 i just think that touch pads are in the past now. just give us a touch screen and we good lol
@@cptmatt9262 ya i get it but i mean you do have the touch screen so that shouldnt be a deal breaker.
4am is morning for us older gents 😂
Good review Kirk. I learned a lot.
I added the pedal commander after a week of owner ship…enjoy the car much better. The pedal is much more responsive
what is a peddle commander?
Its so needed, I did in my 2 Mustangs and my 2ss Camaro.
@@johnmartinez5472no lag when u put your foot on the gas. instant response
@@johnmartinez5472Go to sprint boost usa. All the info there. Great product for 300.00. The car really performs. It gets rid of the pedal lag.
I did the SAME! The throttle controller really brings it to LIFE. I keep mine in Sport+ +2💨💨💨
Two stage pedal? Do you mean a kickdown switch? Germans cars have something kinda like what you decribe. I know a 2015 VW passat has it lol. Basically in german cars that have it, it acts has a "drop to the highest gear possible for max acceleration".
Edit: did some research and yeah its a kickdown switch in an IS500. Popular among german cars. No clue Lexus would use it. IMO a little pointless but know my camaro 10 speed has a "hidden" kick down switch. Basically if you are in sport mode and jab the thottle it will automatically downshift to the highest gear available for max acceleration. Alternative if i put it in manual mode and hold the left paddle down it does the same thing
❤it but these v8 and v6 and cars have been discontinued will be back
Would you take this over M340i?
Yup
RIP tlx
If I’m gonna get the 5.0 V8 I’m getting an LC500, as of now my 15 GS fsport, 21 IS350 dynamic handling, and 21 RX are more than enough Lexus than I need at the moment 😂until I get my GX500
LC500 costs around 50% more than this new...
@ exactly my point did you hear what I said, my IS 350 dynamic handling was 55K if I had 100 grand I’d go by and LC….
I don’t get this guy video. The IS500 is in its class of its own. Don’t compare with anything else. Just be glad Lexus still making this cars.
I wish they stopped with the f sport trim and kept the performance based models as ‘F’. If they want a sporty body trim it could just be called sport or aero 🤔
The reason this isn't called an "F" is because it isn't the same thing. It's kind of like a BMW M-Performance model like the M340i.
@ I know? not sure if you understood my comment I’m saying they should’ve just got rid of that and stuck with F every certain years. same with BMW
Rollin'... In a 5.0
The headlights probably need to be adjusted at the dealer honestly.. that isn’t right 😢
Yeah they are all way too low from the factory. Although the real problem is the sharp cutoff. If they had a more diffuse cutoff it would be fairly ok. With the sharp cutoff it's a real balancing act aiming them higher without blinding other drivers.
Nice
My gs450h F sport also has the 2 stage pedal. I think it's a gimmick taken from the Germans.
It’s a small luxury tank
60k car still use incandescent bulbs for turn signals....
...but only at the back 🤔. I wonder if it's to satisfy some silly outdated law in one country somewhere? I have a Gen 3 2019 IS Premier edition - it has LED indicators up front and incandescents at the back - I believe the only 'old school' bulbs in the whole damn car!
@@NotNowCato1254 The footwell, visor, trunk interior, and front door courtesy bulbs are incandescent for whatever reason, which is kind of silly since all the other interior lights are LED. Kind of jarring having that color temp difference. I replaced them all on mine
@StratusFearX I stand corrected. You're quite right - prehistoric bulbs present in these locations too 🙄
2013 IS-F, original owner, 42K miles. Still loving it. Nothing like V8 acceleration.
I went from STI to IS500.
@@moonman_8935 That's funny, I sold my 2004 STi in 2010 when I bought a place. Picked up my new 2013 ISF 3 years later.
The V8 will end up coming back like Trump
HEY
Now that Trump will be president I can afford to buy one
Lol hate to break it to you... You'll still be too broke to own one
@ as a six figure earner, no I won’t be
Lol
@@JDMSwervo2001 if you a six figure earner you should be able to afford it what does a president have to do with it or you just talking
@@AlmiightyTim because inflation has made my everyday expenses more expensive
Two stage gas pedals are terrible. That would stop me from buying the IS which is otherwise a great car.
Alteeza
Keep the V8 Lexus please
Congratulations with Trump, magnificent!!! Like this Lexus!
I just cannot justify upgrading from GS350, everything other than tech / engine is a downgrade😢
next year everthing will be a lot cheaper in the US, now a lot of people can buy one 👍
ALL Lexus never stack up to the competition. sure, they have a niche market and its more apparent with the v8 engine. but it is just too boring for the audience that's being targeted at the end of the day... it takes a different person to buy this, and there just simply isn't enough of them to keep it going...
Probably true...
Lol it's not boring. It's called having a split personality. Unlike a 3-series, which has super touchy brakes, stabby throttle, and fast steering to remind you how sporty it is at all times, this car just drives normally. But you can always click it into S+ Mode and go ham. If a RWD V-8 sport sedan is boring, that's on you.
@@ARentz07 I mean go look at sales numbers between the two. The 3 series has always been the benchmark since the 2000's that Lexus is in the "pursuit" of..
@pnisflytrap1 Good job it's not the 'cost of ownership' benchmark they're chasing...
@NotNowCato1254 smh
Slow
No.
Kirk, Would you pick RCF over IS?
Yes unless you need to use the back seat