This was one of my most popular scenarios yet while it was airing, so for anyone who hasn’t seen it yet - enjoy! I normally like being more grounded but for this scenario I wanted to have more fun and freedom with what to do. Hope you guys have as much fun with it as I did! 🥕🥶
@@SpammytheHedgehog one day I’d love to make some in-depth video about my strongest what if universes. At least for this story’s Goku, Gohan, and Beerus, they’re definitely up there as some of my strongest
I personally think that cell saga was so fucking stupid and bs. Goku dies to some random ass “heart virus” wich is bullshit, Some dipshit doctor managed to harness the powers aliens, super powered legends and gods in a cave.
@@dmitribrutus5543 huhhh, bro zenkai boost got the Saiyan's in the tournament of power a boost of at least 2-3x and now u put Frieza's potential on top of that. The same Frieza that went from namek saga to super Saiyan Blue in 4 months. Ur crazy
I disagree. By the time he fights frieza, he would've been at least Jiren level. Think about it, Frieza trained for 4 months and went from namek level to ssj blue level. Goku trained for at least 4 years by the time the frieza saga happened, so just imagine his power.
If we ignored the fact that saiyajin species have an infinite bound of forms and power due to zenkai boosts, goku would be statistically around half the power of frieza black, making him over 50× his current manga power in top form
@@vyorus1226thats different tho cuz goku passed his prime while goten hasnt reach or is in his prime as of now so technically he shouldnt turn into an adult
@@YourLovelyGuy9442 Gohan ALREADY has potential on par or exceeding Frieza. Goku was born with a naturally low potential (Hence the whole low class Saiyan thing) and made up for it with a desire to learn and overcame it. Gohan has Frieza level potential as the son of someone with low potential. If Gohan was naturally born from someone with a great potential, he'd be steamrolling the entirety of Dragon Ball.
@@bluephoenixguy1094 gohan does not have friezas potential, sure it's close but not quite there, he was on par with ssb goku in a year of training while frieza was on par with goku after only 4 months.
The Full Story probably one of my top 10 favorites on your channel Salad! Something I feel like could've easily been done of much poorer quality in the wrong hands, but you managed to keep it interesting and worth being invested in this What-If that was much more character driven for the Son Family then some may realize. Will definitely be enjoying my relisten of this!
Thank you! The concept was very outlandish so I’m glad I could make it work in a way that I enjoyed, but a way that others could enjoy too. Definitely was interesting working with a strange idea like this one, especially with how many people asked for it
Idk how you do it but you always make these goofy ass scenarios so sentimental by the end . Beerus embracing goku and whis tearing up is insane to hear in my headphones while working😭
@@plant7371 thats the thing, freiza was more powerful than anyone until goku destroyed him, he had to be regenerated which takes time and got destroyed by future trunks and went to hell for however long ( i dont know how long ) which took more time without training and then the 4 months of him training he went from ssj1 z goku to ssb goku, thats scary, it took goku like 5 years
@@jacoblance3548 well, in cannon she did start flying after only like, what, a few weeks after being "born" I think she got Gohan's potential, if not a lil bit less that it, probably around the same as Goten
Loved this story. If only the real father/son Kamehameha happened like that. 1 thing I really think is overlooked is Frieza's final form is his base form, the others are condensed. It ranged from 530,000 to 100M at full power and he was battle worn too. So it makes sense that could make that much of a leap in power. Was that far-fetched that he skipped past the rest of Z.
@@mattbumanlag2611Not only is there no basis for that lie, it's actively contradicted by canon. FP Namek Frieza has been stated by every source as 120 million. His "half power" state is 60 million, confirmed. The idea that he was "battle damaged and that made him weaker" is complete head canon. Every actual source states otherwise.
@@5stargrim Frieza couldn't sustain his full power for long. He was not only hardly ever in the form, but he was battle damaged from the Spirit Bomb and was rapidly losing power.
Even with the insane concept, this resulted in an AMAZING story. It was well scripted, thought out, and it actually made sense 9006/9000 rating from me 💯
I think Gohan should have gotten the ultimate form on top of rose SSJ4 to further justify him closing such a massive gap from where he was before. He even lacked a proper training partner, after all further slowing the effectiveness of training by a ton
I'm going to rewatch the whole story as I do normally. Outlandish ideas need to be well managed. And as usual Salad's quality is an assurance on that note.
I propose to call a Saiyan with Frieza's potential a Mythic Saiyan. Unlike a Legendary Super Saiyan who potential comes from rage and including it's signature transformation, a Mythic Saiyan is a type of rare mutant saiyan who's potential is already there from the start; who continues to grow stronger really quick after fighting or on the verge of death. They appear once every one thousand years like the Legendary Super Saiyan and will only appear as an ordinary saiyan whether an elite or low class.
I find it hilarious how Gohan went from normal to being able to kill Raditz at age 4, then killing Frieza at full power and golden form, to competing with his godlike dad
@@tregriffin8471 irrelevant, piccolo might have been a good mentor to Gohan, but he never was a true father figure, and Piccolo had his limits, even tho he is strong he is not a saiyan
I just saw the title and watch how this story unfolds, and MAN I'm glad to stop by to see Goku, and characters develop. This seem more impactful compare to canon, having Beerus convince Goku become the new God of Destruction was amazing.
Great Story! Even with all those steroids you manage to make it fun and entertaining. I also love how you made the villains relevant even with their huge difference in power.
I gotta admit, this scenario had me hooked right at the moment Gohan hit Raditz with a tactical nuke as casually as he did. Given that the Z Fighters actually like training, the power Goku and his lineage could get with Frieza’s Potential shouldn’t be too surprising. If you think about it, though, wouldn’t Bardok or Gine have to have it as well to be able to pass it on to Goku? And when Bardok rebelled, wouldn’t that push him to becoming a Super Saiyan as well? Food for thought. We saw with Frieza himself that 4 months was all it took to go from getting rofl-stomped by Super Saiyan grade one, all the way to matching Super Saiyan Blue in terms of power. For reference (correct me if I’m wrong), 17 years have taken place in-series between the Frieza Saga’s end and Resurrection F. That’s how long it took the Z fighters to ascend to that level of power. That is how crazy Frieza’s Potential is, and he’s not even trying really. I honestly think Frieza’s Potential is even more scary then we give it credit for sometimes. He more than likely wasn’t putting nearly as much effort into his training as he could’ve during those 4 months, both because the soldiers he has at his command during Resurrection F can’t realistically push him to transform, but also the fact that he despises training. He literally made a B-line for Earth the moment he got his Golden Form, not caring at all about the stamina drain a new form would put him through. It’s a similar problem that plagued his Final 100% Power form in the Frieza saga as well. Not that the form was new to him, but without anyone to push him to use it, he didn’t get much of an opportunity to get used to that level of power, if at all, up until Goku goated it out of him. That’s the thing with Frieza. He has his crazy potential, but until he can get it in his head that he needs to train to be able to better grasp the forms he has, instead of just attaining new ones, he’s always gonna have Goku and Vegeta get the better of him in a fight. His main problem isn’t how much power he has, it’s how long he can maintain it. If his opponent is smart and plays defensive, the stamina drain is always gonna be what makes him lose. This story is proof of this in spades. Great job, Salad. Keep it up.
The way mutations work in nature, is that someone had to be the first to get each thing, whether it's having fingernails, or blue eyes, or in this case, having super broken potential. Cooler and King Cold don't have Friezas potential, but it is likely his child would.
@@JohnDoe-yk3ji Wait, the mutation thing is actually legit? I thought they were calling Frieza a mutant from being intimidated because of how unnaturally strong he was, and spitballing ideas on why. Compared to his goons in his saga, Frieza was leagues beyond them. Even his father isn’t much of a good comparison. It does make sense though. 120 Million was such a huge jump in the villain power level department back then. I suppose I just never really thought about it like that.
@@TheVanishingDark534 Japanese writing usually assumes in a healthy dose of scientific literacy, at least with regard to evolution. You have to remember, they and the Germans considered themselves the prime genetic specimens of their respective races, and we had to fight them about it lol. I don't mean that in a bad way, it's just like the stuff we think is bad about master races and stuff is very prevalent in things like DBZ.
I don't think the fans Ever downplayed Frieza's potential. If anything, I've heard more ppl say he was too powerful after his 4 months (& now even more) of training.
This insanely great good work. You should have it turned into a show or a movie. This was one of the best and hopefully we will have a dragon ball super spin off of Goku having all of this happen. Then have Gohan combine beast mode, super Saiyan 4, with super Saiyan rose.
pure gold no ki gold is weak and would be prideful to like when honed and Goko can't even be prideful unf for a transformation were you just need to real like it
@@allshipper2158hell no but both of them with another Decade of training should definitely be equal if not above Whis just due to their insane potential even if Whis is Millions of times more powerful than Berrus.
@@allshipper2158I mean if he truly had frieza potential then even goku would 99% chance be close to grand priest or atleast more than whis by a lot . Even if you just count each 4 months multiplying his power by 5 a huge lowball then a goku with tui would be more like a goku with over 3000 times more power
I feel like you actually made them extremely under powered funnily enough because frieza got a power on par with super saiyan God in 4 months of training while goku and them love training
Frieza was a mutant. Goku isn't in this scenario. It's a situation like Gohan. Tons of potential, nobody to really help unleash it. Completely possible Goku still doesn't go ssj until he fights Frieza. He most likely doesn't die against Raditz and so doesn't train with King Kai. Leaving him behind Vegeta still when the saiyans arrive. Hell with no Kaioken Vegeta prolly gets the dub but they still can't kill each other. This would be the first major power gain for Goku. He heals and is immediately superior to the not only Vegeta but the Ginyu force. Now, if Ginyu still trades bodies and Gokus healed again, he's prolly on Frieza level now but certainly not final form Frieza. If Ginyu don't change bodies, Goku doesn't need to be healed, he gets clapped by Frieza. Again, nobody coulda pushed him to that level AND he doesn't have the training with King Kai to really separate himself from the rest like in canon.
@@OddOneRogue that was my point. Friezas a mutant. We can't expect gokuto have similar gains. Goku comes from the weaker race and he's not a mutant. Remember saiyans need to actually battle. Training helps but unless a saiyan is constantly being pushed to the limit, how do u see the gains like wat Frieza had in 4 months? Idk lol Frieza was born with so much power he made forms to suppress it, never trained and still required the strongest saiyan ever to turn super saiyan to finally use all his power and be beaten. I don't see it lol
i like how he says gohan doesnt get super saiyan unless he goes through something traumatic even tho goten and trunks didnt go through anything they were just born strong
I loved this story, I would love to see a follow up story that follows Goten's journey, watch how he grows where we woud get tidbits of goku and gohan alongside, and see what new threats you can create personally.
"Heart Virus" problems could have been potential-ed out of, Sir Salad! Genetic potential can cover immunities! Could have even sarcastically cured it for everyone later out of Goku blood. 🤠 No other notes, Hero! Thanks for all you make!
Now that I think about it, Goku with Frieza potential plus SSJ4 is a form that unleashed the user potential like Mystic form in a sense plus with God Ki. That will create a Monsters out of this world. Imagine all of that with their potential unlock with Mystic form. Busted.
This was it 🗿 usually I wait a while to make a full series version of scenarios but this one was an exception because of how many people loved this one lol, hence the secret
i like how you made gohans outfit orange like gokus outfit instead of piccolos purple at the beginning of the video nice touch and thank you for an entertaining video
One of my favorite parts about what ifs like this is that these are the types that everyone always ask, basically what if x character already unlocked their full potential even tho it results in a very obvious and short answer it's still fun
Here's a what if: What if Majin Buu absorbed Dabura, instead of turning him into a cookie? his power increase would at least be the same amount as Dabura's or Cell's as they said ssj2 Gohan fighting Cell could beat Dabura, so somewhere around that... but on top of that Buu would get Dabura's cunning mind and Magic, so he would skip spawning grey Buu and become more intelligent, but less powerful, although more versatile thx to magic and he might not kill Babidi to gain freedom... or he would kill Babidi and gain his magic too, much like Kid Buu (Babidi absorbed) from Dragon Ball Super Heroes (spinoff, manga, anime shorts, games etc.)
Bro, I can't imagine what vegeta's mind was going through in the buu saga to BoG, man's probably like "Ok so they discovered a form beyond SSJ2 ok, then discovered golden great ape hm, then now this??? then beerus said SUPER SAIYAN GOD? WHAT."
Hello. I know I'm late, but let me explain why Salad Saiyan makes funny moments about children turning into adults as Super Saiyan 4. According to Akira Toriyama's GT files: When a Saiyan turns into an SSJ4, the warrior no matter what age changes into their prime state. So basically, if Goten and Trunks achieve that power, it will show how powerful they will be when they're adults.
You do a better job of keeping Gohan compelling and relevant than the actual show. It’d be cool having even more surprise negative outcomes, too, like personality changes (e.g. Gokus lazier/arrogant from the onepunchitis), new deaths (e.g. Roshi fatally wounded during training exercise), former allies, like Krillin or Yamcha Bulma Piccolo etc., becoming enemies perhaps out of fear, etc. Stuff that’s unexpected and new, but also totally makes natural sense.
Yes, that would be surprising, but, this could happen. 1st Scenario: Goku changes his personality, most likely gonna go away by Gohan and Goten, and Chi-Chi. 2nd Scenario: Why would Roshi train anymore. Goku being a God of Destruction and facing Roshi. Just why. 3rd Scenario: Why the hell would they become enemies. Yamcha and Krillin are lifelong best friends. Piccolo don't even exist and Bulma just a human. The rest can't even throw a punch. This might happen. MULTIVERSAL WAR!!!!!
I would've loved to see this continued as in explore the side effects of goku being the new G.O.D of universe 7. Feel like you could do a cool little supplemental story about it.
I love these stories man. Thank you for doing what you do best. Also I have a challenge for you. What if goku was reborn during the T.O.P? It sounds weird but hear me out. When goku gets pulled into his own spirit bomb, it sends his consciousness (1/8 of his physical strength and all his abilities) back to where his journey first began. I've watched a story like this (but he kept all his powers and transformations) but it went too far back into the past for me to be interested. I'm hoping you find this comment and make this idea a reality. Thanks in advance.
I would love to see you do what if Goten and Trunks actually get trained by their fathers and/or Whis who sees their potential. Would love to see them master SS3 and go from there. Maybe have those 2 go the Super Saiyan route where Goku and Vegeta go the god and UI and Gohan goes his own direction.
I love how salad's stories start like: "oh he has super sayan blue at cell saga" And end like: "he kills Zeno-sama and becomes the New emperor of the universe (while using ss5)
I wonder, where would current Black Frieza scale in all of this? Remember, he can take much more punishment due to his race having an extreme durability ( he was revived in pieces). It's debatable whether he would grow faster or slower than a Saiyan with the same potential who trained for the same duration...
In terms of the heart virus before cell, I think since vegeta and nappa are there maybe they could try and get goku in a healing tube that they use on namek, (of course this is after they think about letting goku die so they can be free, but remember gohan could still whoop them blindfolded) but I have a feeling the tube might be able to cure the heart virus, or at the least they have some saiyan pepto bismal or something
I really enjoyed this I kinda hope you continue this pick up where you left off and go from there this story has a lot of potential lol no pun intended
i got an amazing concept, what if gohan learned kaioken from goku after the saiyan saga He would help a lot more and he would help alot more in the cell saga, buu saga, Reserection F saga and especially in the more arc
I wish the Dragonball team would kinda fund fan based what ifs as like a super serious of movies for what ifs like this one I would love to see the animation for this one good job salad I love this what if
I always wondered if Cell didn’t have have Piccolo’s or Frieza DNA would he look like Goku and be another Saiyan or Half Saiyan because he does have Human DNA?
The only complaint i have with this is that Goku ditched ultra ego or don't try and use it with ssj4 at the end vs Gohan cuz ultra ego is the exact opposite of ui and when Goku was fighting Gohan at the end with how much smarter Goku is here he should have realised that if he had used ego over instinct he would win
Listening to this scenario like delicious choco milk! One thing though... Doesn't the tail negate the stamina drain from the super sayain forms? Eh, it's a nerf for the overpowerd goku X)
You should do some what ifs with the GT story line or possibly in fire what ifs, include non cannon movies like gohan vs bojack and make them part of the story line, might be fun. Maybe even what if following the original dragonball series more closely and not just king picollo, I enjoy your what’s ifs just wanna give some suggestions to keep them coming
This was one of my most popular scenarios yet while it was airing, so for anyone who hasn’t seen it yet - enjoy! I normally like being more grounded but for this scenario I wanted to have more fun and freedom with what to do. Hope you guys have as much fun with it as I did! 🥕🥶
This is one of the strongest versions of Goku and Gohan that Salad Saiyan had ever created.
@@SpammytheHedgehog one day I’d love to make some in-depth video about my strongest what if universes. At least for this story’s Goku, Gohan, and Beerus, they’re definitely up there as some of my strongest
This was one of the best what if you ever created if not the best. For me it's top 3 so thanks
I’m a big fan
Hmmmmm banana 🍌
I think we all know, it’s not called the “Room of Spirit and Time,” but it is in fact called the “Hypersonic Lion Tamer”
You're doing that on purpose!
@@minganlunaris1503 could’ve been
@@MrRobotkidd *falling noises*
Hype Ebola mime chamber, Hypoglysemic crime chamber, Hype E bonics rhyme chamber, Hyper tonic lion tamer
@@Wh4tsKrak3ncorrect
The heart virus was killed by Goku’s Frieza potential immune system
This is My head cannon now
Osmosis Jones Z
Yup
Goku finally got his revenge on the heart virus.
Well, at least a version of Goku got it for all of the ones that suffered/died from it.
I personally think that cell saga was so fucking stupid and bs.
Goku dies to some random ass “heart virus” wich is bullshit,
Some dipshit doctor managed to harness the powers aliens, super powered legends and gods in a cave.
Imagine any zenkai boost with Frieza's potential.
Oh God! That would be horrifying.
"YES!! I've finally beat the most powerful being in this universe!!! .... is that a bean?"
@@liamthegreat1092
"Senzu bean!"
*throw noises*
Now that's over kill
I doubt that it would be overkill. Having zenkais with Frieza Potential would be medium or small considering they pushing their bodies to the limits
@@dmitribrutus5543 huhhh, bro zenkai boost got the Saiyan's in the tournament of power a boost of at least 2-3x and now u put Frieza's potential on top of that. The same Frieza that went from namek saga to super Saiyan Blue in 4 months. Ur crazy
After seeing how strong Frieza was after 10 years of training to get Black Frieza, he should have been even more OP here.
Agreed
Ah yes. Raditz was very important to this story. Such character development.
ik right
He truly did so much and developed a lot of character in gohan especially.
most Definity
He was a great uncle to gohan.
Best character in this what-if fr
I disagree. By the time he fights frieza, he would've been at least Jiren level. Think about it, Frieza trained for 4 months and went from namek level to ssj blue level. Goku trained for at least 4 years by the time the frieza saga happened, so just imagine his power.
If we ignored the fact that saiyajin species have an infinite bound of forms and power due to zenkai boosts, goku would be statistically around half the power of frieza black, making him over 50× his current manga power in top form
@@amvcentral9198 friezas potential is too op lol
True
Plot
Its his story though😭 lol
Goten/Gohan fighting together is the duo we NEED. An arc where THEY save Goku, who’s out early as a captive/to further hone UI/god powers would be 🔥
How would Goku even get captured?
@@iiiZokage Frieza
This is literally dragon ball kakumei
What happens when gohan kicks as a baby in the womb
(Un-a)Live Chi-Chi Reaction: 💀
💣 explode 🤯 💥
Chichi starts vibrating 😭
Chi-Chi starts vomiting blood
Indirect zenkai
Only reason goku aged up when he turned into ssj4 in GT is because ssj4 puts the user into their prime which is like 30/40’s for saiyans
It was actually due to SSJ4 Goku's power overtaking the power of the Black Star Dragon Balls.
@@vyorus1226thats different tho cuz goku passed his prime while goten hasnt reach or is in his prime as of now so technically he shouldnt turn into an adult
So it’s the same type of thing as the omnitrix?
@@pogggaming4470 So its the same type of stand as star platnium
@@z.incognito6259 Idk. The fact Vegeta resembled his Z self more in GT as a Super Saiyan 4 (his hair not being as short) seems to back that up.
Imagine ultra instinct plus the Kai Kai. That would be a terrifying combo.
A degraded version of Kai Kai? Why?
@Vyorus I remember having the perfect explanation but I forgot it
@Fugitive685 I think what you are thinking is that UI needs no emotion but Kai Kai requires the sense of destroying something so that is emotion
@@dragonare715...that's hakai not Kai Kai. Kai Kai is the teleportation ability
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This is definitely the strongest Goku youve ever made.
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Vo'yue*
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@@zodius2716 yo'euv
What if Goku had Frieza's potential
-What the title says
What if Gohan one-shotted every villian
-What it should be.
*Cough* Cell, Buu, Beerus, Black, Moro *Cough*
well goku can also oneshot them but giving his son w's is not bad
@@YourLovelyGuy9442 Gohan ALREADY has potential on par or exceeding Frieza.
Goku was born with a naturally low potential (Hence the whole low class Saiyan thing) and made up for it with a desire to learn and overcame it.
Gohan has Frieza level potential as the son of someone with low potential. If Gohan was naturally born from someone with a great potential, he'd be steamrolling the entirety of Dragon Ball.
@@bluephoenixguy1094your reply doesn't make sense to above comments
@@bluephoenixguy1094 gohan does not have friezas potential, sure it's close but not quite there, he was on par with ssb goku in a year of training while frieza was on par with goku after only 4 months.
The Full Story probably one of my top 10 favorites on your channel Salad! Something I feel like could've easily been done of much poorer quality in the wrong hands, but you managed to keep it interesting and worth being invested in this What-If that was much more character driven for the Son Family then some may realize.
Will definitely be enjoying my relisten of this!
Thank you! The concept was very outlandish so I’m glad I could make it work in a way that I enjoyed, but a way that others could enjoy too. Definitely was interesting working with a strange idea like this one, especially with how many people asked for it
@@SaladSaiyan yeah, it was great, might take the place as my favourite what if you've made! Better than even what if Roshi wished for youth!
at least top 5 and even 3
"Could've easily been done of much poorer quality in the wrong hands"
*Cough cough GokuT23 cough cough*
@@christopherford39 I mean if someones gonna say it lol...
Idk how you do it but you always make these goofy ass scenarios so sentimental by the end . Beerus embracing goku and whis tearing up is insane to hear in my headphones while working😭
When you realize since this was all Frieza's potential, Frieza could become G.O.D if he just trained more
The story would've been over instantly if only Frieza had put in effort from the start.
@@plant7371 thats the thing, freiza was more powerful than anyone until goku destroyed him, he had to be regenerated which takes time and got destroyed by future trunks and went to hell for however long ( i dont know how long ) which took more time without training and then the 4 months of him training he went from ssj1 z goku to ssb goku, thats scary, it took goku like 5 years
@@damo0999_ more like 15+ years for goku tbh
@@str9306 ik idk what the time scaling is, it confusing af. still thats even more impressive
@@damo0999_ yeah true
If this is Goku and Gohan... then imagine Goten and Pan's potential.
Oh trust me, goten in ssj3 beat DBS Broly lol
I think pan would have less potential than goten and gonan because she has more human dna than saiyan
@@jacoblance3548 well, in cannon she did start flying after only like, what, a few weeks after being "born"
I think she got Gohan's potential, if not a lil bit less that it, probably around the same as Goten
@@jacoblance3548 goten and who
@@eve_lasandia_de_arte5803 We just have to wait and see how Pan grows... "Don't judge the book by it's cover."...
Loved this story. If only the real father/son Kamehameha happened like that. 1 thing I really think is overlooked is Frieza's final form is his base form, the others are condensed. It ranged from 530,000 to 100M at full power and he was battle worn too. So it makes sense that could make that much of a leap in power. Was that far-fetched that he skipped past the rest of Z.
Ffp=150m
120 million.
@@mattbumanlag2611Not only is there no basis for that lie, it's actively contradicted by canon. FP Namek Frieza has been stated by every source as 120 million. His "half power" state is 60 million, confirmed. The idea that he was "battle damaged and that made him weaker" is complete head canon. Every actual source states otherwise.
@@5stargrim Frieza couldn't sustain his full power for long. He was not only hardly ever in the form, but he was battle damaged from the Spirit Bomb and was rapidly losing power.
Even with the insane concept, this resulted in an AMAZING story. It was well scripted, thought out, and it actually made sense
9006/9000 rating from me 💯
I see the 9000 thing you did there
ITS OVER 9000
*IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!!*
its 1006.
@@somedude9162I think your scouter might be upside down chief
I think Gohan should have gotten the ultimate form on top of rose SSJ4 to further justify him closing such a massive gap from where he was before.
He even lacked a proper training partner, after all further slowing the effectiveness of training by a ton
But elder Kai never got released
And even if elder kai did he'd probably be sitting there for years. Could he even draw all of that out?
@@metronome7799ehh shenron could probably.
@@aliasa3485 shenron is weaker tho
I'm going to rewatch the whole story as I do normally. Outlandish ideas need to be well managed. And as usual Salad's quality is an assurance on that note.
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I propose to call a Saiyan with Frieza's potential a Mythic Saiyan.
Unlike a Legendary Super Saiyan who potential comes from rage and including it's signature transformation, a Mythic Saiyan is a type of rare mutant saiyan who's potential is already there from the start; who continues to grow stronger really quick after fighting or on the verge of death. They appear once every one thousand years like the Legendary Super Saiyan and will only appear as an ordinary saiyan whether an elite or low class.
That literally is how canon LSJ works now it was changed from the movie in DBZ to what your describing jn DBS
No. If one ever appeared, they wouldnt have been forgotten
I know that this is late, but I'll rename this as a Messiah Saiyan? I'll also change the description as well...
Jesus Christ Loves You
Sounds too made up and corny. They refuse to use the name ssj4 for sum reason
I find it hilarious how Gohan went from normal to being able to kill Raditz at age 4, then killing Frieza at full power and golden form, to competing with his godlike dad
You know why gohan is so strong? Because Goku is a good father here, didn't leave and actually trained Gohan
Goten killed golden furiza in this what if
@@war_axe piccolo
@@tregriffin8471 irrelevant, piccolo might have been a good mentor to Gohan, but he never was a true father figure, and Piccolo had his limits, even tho he is strong he is not a saiyan
@@war_axe leave?
Taking "But can he beat Goku tho" to the next level
I just saw the title and watch how this story unfolds, and MAN I'm glad to stop by to see Goku, and characters develop. This seem more impactful compare to canon, having Beerus convince Goku become the new God of Destruction was amazing.
i like to imagine the first ssj transform, he just gets impatient and sprints at an insane speed across the world
Great Story! Even with all those steroids you manage to make it fun and entertaining. I also love how you made the villains relevant even with their huge difference in power.
I gotta admit, this scenario had me hooked right at the moment Gohan hit Raditz with a tactical nuke as casually as he did. Given that the Z Fighters actually like training, the power Goku and his lineage could get with Frieza’s Potential shouldn’t be too surprising. If you think about it, though, wouldn’t Bardok or Gine have to have it as well to be able to pass it on to Goku? And when Bardok rebelled, wouldn’t that push him to becoming a Super Saiyan as well? Food for thought.
We saw with Frieza himself that 4 months was all it took to go from getting rofl-stomped by Super Saiyan grade one, all the way to matching Super Saiyan Blue in terms of power. For reference (correct me if I’m wrong), 17 years have taken place in-series between the Frieza Saga’s end and Resurrection F. That’s how long it took the Z fighters to ascend to that level of power. That is how crazy Frieza’s Potential is, and he’s not even trying really.
I honestly think Frieza’s Potential is even more scary then we give it credit for sometimes. He more than likely wasn’t putting nearly as much effort into his training as he could’ve during those 4 months, both because the soldiers he has at his command during Resurrection F can’t realistically push him to transform, but also the fact that he despises training. He literally made a B-line for Earth the moment he got his Golden Form, not caring at all about the stamina drain a new form would put him through.
It’s a similar problem that plagued his Final 100% Power form in the Frieza saga as well. Not that the form was new to him, but without anyone to push him to use it, he didn’t get much of an opportunity to get used to that level of power, if at all, up until Goku goated it out of him.
That’s the thing with Frieza. He has his crazy potential, but until he can get it in his head that he needs to train to be able to better grasp the forms he has, instead of just attaining new ones, he’s always gonna have Goku and Vegeta get the better of him in a fight. His main problem isn’t how much power he has, it’s how long he can maintain it. If his opponent is smart and plays defensive, the stamina drain is always gonna be what makes him lose. This story is proof of this in spades. Great job, Salad. Keep it up.
The way mutations work in nature, is that someone had to be the first to get each thing, whether it's having fingernails, or blue eyes, or in this case, having super broken potential. Cooler and King Cold don't have Friezas potential, but it is likely his child would.
@@JohnDoe-yk3ji Wait, the mutation thing is actually legit? I thought they were calling Frieza a mutant from being intimidated because of how unnaturally strong he was, and spitballing ideas on why. Compared to his goons in his saga, Frieza was leagues beyond them. Even his father isn’t much of a good comparison. It does make sense though. 120 Million was such a huge jump in the villain power level department back then. I suppose I just never really thought about it like that.
@@TheVanishingDark534 Japanese writing usually assumes in a healthy dose of scientific literacy, at least with regard to evolution. You have to remember, they and the Germans considered themselves the prime genetic specimens of their respective races, and we had to fight them about it lol.
I don't mean that in a bad way, it's just like the stuff we think is bad about master races and stuff is very prevalent in things like DBZ.
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I don't think the fans Ever downplayed Frieza's potential. If anything, I've heard more ppl say he was too powerful after his 4 months (& now even more) of training.
This insanely great good work. You should have it turned into a show or a movie. This was one of the best and hopefully we will have a dragon ball super spin off of Goku having all of this happen. Then have Gohan combine beast mode, super Saiyan 4, with super Saiyan rose.
I like how we just almost completely forgot about Vegeta and Nappa 😂
And Piccolo 😂😢😅
This is a pretty nice in between cannon and non cannon content, to a point where it is more intereting without pulling so much stuff out of nowhere
I said it once and I will say it again, these *Full Story* Scenarios are PURE GOLD! Absolutely brilliant fanfics 👏
*dun dun tss*
Somebody explain the joke here please
@@destiny6080 im unsure if there is one
pure gold no ki gold is weak and would be prideful to like when honed and Goko can't even be prideful unf for a transformation were you just need to real like it
Goku already had good potential he reached true ultra but now with frieza I think he would go further maybe reaching angel level
So where would Gohan be if he trained as much as Goku?
Grand Priest level?
@@allshipper2158no yamcha level
Yamcha>>>>>>>>grand priest
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@@allshipper2158hell no but both of them with another Decade of training should definitely be equal if not above Whis just due to their insane potential even if Whis is Millions of times more powerful than Berrus.
@@allshipper2158I mean if he truly had frieza potential then even goku would 99% chance be close to grand priest or atleast more than whis by a lot . Even if you just count each 4 months multiplying his power by 5 a huge lowball then a goku with tui would be more like a goku with over 3000 times more power
I feel like you actually made them extremely under powered funnily enough because frieza got a power on par with super saiyan God in 4 months of training while goku and them love training
It would be boring if goku just one shot everyone with 0 diff
Yes that’s true that it would be boring, but realistically by the time Goku faced Freiza he would be Jiren level.
Frieza was a mutant. Goku isn't in this scenario. It's a situation like Gohan. Tons of potential, nobody to really help unleash it. Completely possible Goku still doesn't go ssj until he fights Frieza. He most likely doesn't die against Raditz and so doesn't train with King Kai. Leaving him behind Vegeta still when the saiyans arrive. Hell with no Kaioken Vegeta prolly gets the dub but they still can't kill each other. This would be the first major power gain for Goku. He heals and is immediately superior to the not only Vegeta but the Ginyu force. Now, if Ginyu still trades bodies and Gokus healed again, he's prolly on Frieza level now but certainly not final form Frieza. If Ginyu don't change bodies, Goku doesn't need to be healed, he gets clapped by Frieza. Again, nobody coulda pushed him to that level AND he doesn't have the training with King Kai to really separate himself from the rest like in canon.
@@maniacslap1623 all of friezas potential comes from him being a mutant, so realistically he still has Freizas potential and all that jazz
@@OddOneRogue that was my point. Friezas a mutant. We can't expect gokuto have similar gains. Goku comes from the weaker race and he's not a mutant. Remember saiyans need to actually battle. Training helps but unless a saiyan is constantly being pushed to the limit, how do u see the gains like wat Frieza had in 4 months? Idk lol Frieza was born with so much power he made forms to suppress it, never trained and still required the strongest saiyan ever to turn super saiyan to finally use all his power and be beaten. I don't see it lol
In this scenario I would have loved to have seen Gohan or Goten become the Supreme Kai
Wow salad i feel like this series just started i can’t believe it’s over
The best Father-Son show I've ever seen.
I love how it was Goku who invented SS Blue Evolved in this timeline. Also, Super Saiyan 4 Rosé is a dope transformation.
i like how he says gohan doesnt get super saiyan unless he goes through something traumatic even tho goten and trunks didnt go through anything they were just born strong
Trunks is the worst answer you could possibly every choose
This was easily my favorite what-if you have made. Its so creative and fun, I really got invested in the story and the final battle was awesome.
I loved this story, I would love to see a follow up story that follows Goten's journey, watch how he grows where we woud get tidbits of goku and gohan alongside, and see what new threats you can create personally.
i was not expecting for goku to reach mui/tui 4 near the end and all the other crazy stuff that happend during the what if this was awesome
At least Gohan got to spend lots of time with Goku in this story.
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"Heart Virus" problems could have been potential-ed out of, Sir Salad! Genetic potential can cover immunities! Could have even sarcastically cured it for everyone later out of Goku blood. 🤠 No other notes, Hero! Thanks for all you make!
And i think that goku got thr heart virus by staying in the planet yardrat and thid goku didnt even know the existence of planet yardrat
@@bidoof4426 He didnt get it from Yardrat
@@bidoof4426he didnt get it from yardrat
Now that I think about it, Goku with Frieza potential plus SSJ4 is a form that unleashed the user potential like Mystic form in a sense plus with God Ki. That will create a Monsters out of this world. Imagine all of that with their potential unlock with Mystic form. Busted.
I was looking forward to this one for so long, thank you for your quality content!
Was this the secret video or are we getting another one at 1/2?
This was it 🗿 usually I wait a while to make a full series version of scenarios but this one was an exception because of how many people loved this one lol, hence the secret
@@SaladSaiyan Lol oh. That makes sense. Keep up the great work and storytelling!
For once, Gohan got his revenge on Raditz.
Gohan Takes The W Here
A revenge for what? Rafitz didn't even do anything....yet....
@@abhabh6896 raditz kidnapping gohan
@Treebutstupid i mean he didnt really do much after that, gohan turned him into dust in seconds after raditz touched him
i like how you made gohans outfit orange like gokus outfit instead of piccolos purple at the beginning of the video nice touch and thank you for an entertaining video
One of my favorite parts about what ifs like this is that these are the types that everyone always ask, basically what if x character already unlocked their full potential even tho it results in a very obvious and short answer it's still fun
Here's a what if: What if Majin Buu absorbed Dabura, instead of turning him into a cookie? his power increase would at least be the same amount as Dabura's or Cell's as they said ssj2 Gohan fighting Cell could beat Dabura, so somewhere around that... but on top of that Buu would get Dabura's cunning mind and Magic, so he would skip spawning grey Buu and become more intelligent, but less powerful, although more versatile thx to magic and he might not kill Babidi to gain freedom... or he would kill Babidi and gain his magic too, much like Kid Buu (Babidi absorbed) from Dragon Ball Super Heroes (spinoff, manga, anime shorts, games etc.)
I do really wonder what Beerus’s potential is, it must be pretty good if he’s the(possibly) strongest G.O.D.
Wasn’t Beerus shown to be most likely the most skilled G.O.D but not the most powerful since that goes to Quitela
Beerus is stated to be over 70 million years old. So his potential could be really low.
@@hat4438 Beerus is stated to be the most powerful G.o.D.
@@hat4438 in the manga beerus didnt even take the other G.O.D.S serious
@@hat4438the other G.O.Ds arent even anywhere close to beerus
This was a lot of fun to listen to. It could be interesting to see how Goku performs in his new role and how it impacts his universe and others.
I love how the only villains who stood a Chance are those who steal his power
I've rewatched this 3 times now its so good!
This is SO GOOD, easily my #1 favorite story so far, keep up the good work
Bro, I can't imagine what vegeta's mind was going through in the buu saga to BoG, man's probably like "Ok so they discovered a form beyond SSJ2 ok, then discovered golden great ape hm, then now this??? then beerus said SUPER SAIYAN GOD? WHAT."
56:07 "he explains to shin & kabuto what hes talking about"
Captions: "he explains the shitty computer what they were talking about"
bro the ending honestly made me to almost teary. So damn wholesome!
I absolutely love your videos man, I listen to them while I work
Hello.
I know I'm late, but let me explain why Salad Saiyan makes funny moments about children turning into adults as Super Saiyan 4.
According to Akira Toriyama's GT files: When a Saiyan turns into an SSJ4, the warrior no matter what age changes into their prime state.
So basically, if Goten and Trunks achieve that power, it will show how powerful they will be when they're adults.
If Saitama is the One Punch Man, then Goku and Gohan are the One Punch Saiyans.
Nah bro they the half punch sayains
@@eyeofcthulhu9602 One flick Saiyans
@@midnight8555 nah 1 blink saiyan
@@Tyranno10 Half blink Saiyans
@@starshot2476 quarter breathe saiyans
Now time for what if freiza had Goku's personality
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This is my favorite story by you good sir. I have listened to it several times now.
1:20:49 "I spent too much time on this joke but it's worth it even for a few seconds..." Now I wonder if that is an actual privated video
Loved the series, good job👍
More outlandish what ifs would be amazing, this was perfect
Maybe a what if goku was raised by Zenoh
You do a better job of keeping Gohan compelling and relevant than the actual show.
It’d be cool having even more surprise negative outcomes, too, like personality changes (e.g. Gokus lazier/arrogant from the onepunchitis), new deaths (e.g. Roshi fatally wounded during training exercise), former allies, like Krillin or Yamcha Bulma Piccolo etc., becoming enemies perhaps out of fear, etc. Stuff that’s unexpected and new, but also totally makes natural sense.
Yes, that would be surprising, but, this could happen.
1st Scenario: Goku changes his personality, most likely gonna go away by Gohan and Goten, and Chi-Chi.
2nd Scenario: Why would Roshi train anymore. Goku being a God of Destruction and facing Roshi. Just why.
3rd Scenario: Why the hell would they become enemies. Yamcha and Krillin are lifelong best friends. Piccolo don't even exist and Bulma just a human. The rest can't even throw a punch.
This might happen. MULTIVERSAL WAR!!!!!
@@midnight8555 pretty sure he meant them like retrospectively, like what if Roshi died in a training excercise early in the story not after
I would've loved to see this continued as in explore the side effects of goku being the new G.O.D of universe 7. Feel like you could do a cool little supplemental story about it.
"this is a silly what if" -> 2 hour video
Love it
1:06:00 the Buu saga we deserved
Imagine if goku has broly potential, if he did goku fighting anyone would slowly catch up as a fight goes on
I love these stories man. Thank you for doing what you do best. Also I have a challenge for you. What if goku was reborn during the T.O.P? It sounds weird but hear me out. When goku gets pulled into his own spirit bomb, it sends his consciousness (1/8 of his physical strength and all his abilities) back to where his journey first began. I've watched a story like this (but he kept all his powers and transformations) but it went too far back into the past for me to be interested. I'm hoping you find this comment and make this idea a reality. Thanks in advance.
He flies over to Insert Villain Here with his limbs tied up, and his aura nukes them.
I would love to see you do what if Goten and Trunks actually get trained by their fathers and/or Whis who sees their potential. Would love to see them master SS3 and go from there. Maybe have those 2 go the Super Saiyan route where Goku and Vegeta go the god and UI and Gohan goes his own direction.
I love how salad's stories start like: "oh he has super sayan blue at cell saga"
And end like: "he kills Zeno-sama and becomes the New emperor of the universe (while using ss5)
Nah that’s more of gokut23 type of what if
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“You see KAKAROT, you aren’t dealing with the average saiyan warrior anymore!”
Glad we have the full series.
I have a what if idea.
What if goku was highly intelligent?
What would be classified as "highly intelligent?" Just so smart that he takes the best routes and makes the best decisions?
That, and also smart enough to make machinery and such. The lore would be when he bumped his head, it made him very smart instead.
@@AnacondaChessYT anime is a fiction....
@@AnacondaChessYT its a what if
This is one of my favourite what if series. Great job 👍
9:45 love how gokus adult head is just pasted on his kid body
Amazing totally amazing
this guy is really a killer in commentary
keep the good work bro
I think Gohan should've been made the new Supreme Kai
I wonder, where would current Black Frieza scale in all of this? Remember, he can take much more punishment due to his race having an extreme durability ( he was revived in pieces). It's debatable whether he would grow faster or slower than a Saiyan with the same potential who trained for the same duration...
Ssj4 Gohan in this scenario the very first time he went ssj4 cause he was able to match against beerus that would most likely scale him there
I like how in this timeline Nappa & Vegeta become comedic side characters like Team Rocket that are just always around.
"this isn't going to be super serious"
*proceeds to make one of the most compelling What-Ifs i've ever witnessed*
This was the absolute best story u have narrated, thanks alot Salad Saiyan
You mean written lmao
In terms of the heart virus before cell, I think since vegeta and nappa are there maybe they could try and get goku in a healing tube that they use on namek, (of course this is after they think about letting goku die so they can be free, but remember gohan could still whoop them blindfolded) but I have a feeling the tube might be able to cure the heart virus, or at the least they have some saiyan pepto bismal or something
I really enjoyed this I kinda hope you continue this pick up where you left off and go from there this story has a lot of potential lol no pun intended
he still manages to amaze me with his senarios
2 hours of not ai voice GREAT WORK
Had to refresh this since I saw Goku at the end of Cell Prime
i got an amazing concept, what if gohan learned kaioken from goku after the saiyan saga
He would help a lot more and he would help alot more in the cell saga, buu saga, Reserection F saga and especially in the more arc
I wish the Dragonball team would kinda fund fan based what ifs as like a super serious of movies for what ifs like this one I would love to see the animation for this one good job salad I love this what if
I always wondered if Cell didn’t have have Piccolo’s or Frieza DNA would he look like Goku and be another Saiyan or Half Saiyan because he does have Human DNA?
The only complaint i have with this is that Goku ditched ultra ego or don't try and use it with ssj4 at the end vs Gohan cuz ultra ego is the exact opposite of ui and when Goku was fighting Gohan at the end with how much smarter Goku is here he should have realised that if he had used ego over instinct he would win
did you even watch? it wasnt compatiable with goku at all.
This is the most ridiculous yet awesome story I have watched, I would love to see a continuation of this story.
I loved this series, keep it up the good work Salad.
Listening to this scenario like delicious choco milk!
One thing though... Doesn't the tail negate the stamina drain from the super sayain forms? Eh, it's a nerf for the overpowerd goku X)
You should do some what ifs with the GT story line or possibly in fire what ifs, include non cannon movies like gohan vs bojack and make them part of the story line, might be fun. Maybe even what if following the original dragonball series more closely and not just king picollo, I enjoy your what’s ifs just wanna give some suggestions to keep them coming
You got Better what ifs then dragon ball sparking zero
Bro ive been watching this video as white noise while playin in rust, great storys