Why Kawhi Leonard Was ROBBED of a 1st Place MVP Vote in 2016

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ความคิดเห็น • 153

  • @MarzTalksSports
    @MarzTalksSports ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Two people i can guarantee chill hates is kobe bean bryant and wardell stephen curry jr

    • @Ac3Badger
      @Ac3Badger ปีที่แล้ว +2

      y’all sound slow. Curry didn’t have the best season ever in NBA history so why is he the only one to be unanimous

    • @Remmyrouser
      @Remmyrouser ปีที่แล้ว +43

      ⁠@@Ac3Badgerare YOU slow? Everyone agrees 00 Shaq or 2013 Bron should’ve been unanimous. Steph shouldn’t have been the first but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve his unanimous MVP. You didn’t even attempt to sound logical

    • @MarzTalksSports
      @MarzTalksSports ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@Ac3Badger imagine saying steph shouldnt be unanimous cos the voters messed up 16 years earlier then calling us slow

    • @jordanross8561
      @jordanross8561 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Cause them was the 2 dudes who challenged Lebron career the most lol I just noticed that

    • @AntoineLHostRon
      @AntoineLHostRon ปีที่แล้ว

      Marz how you feel about Bilal Coulilbaly’s shot coming along?

  • @collegedropout2766
    @collegedropout2766 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    these takes are gettin so bad that 2-3 years from now we might hear "Why Draymond was always a better shooter than Steph"

    • @mybestnugget7514
      @mybestnugget7514 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They already saying LeBron is a better shooter than Kobe

    • @haadtheevision
      @haadtheevision ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mybestnugget7514 Lebron's a more efficient 3 point shooter than Kobe but Kobe has the edge in mid range. In terms of pure skill Kobe is a better shooter than Lebron no question.

    • @Kendricktimes2
      @Kendricktimes2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mybestnugget7514Lebron is clearly a better 3 point shooter than Kobe Lebron shots 4.6 3s per game for his career on 34.5 percent while Kobe shots 4.1 attempts on 32.9 percent

    • @MarzTalksSports
      @MarzTalksSports ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Kendricktimes2one day well realise shooting ability is more than just percentages. itll be a good breakthrough

    • @CamilSongZ
      @CamilSongZ ปีที่แล้ว

      Lebron last year was one of the worst shooter in three point last year so what are you talking about ? He’s below average and surely worst

  • @t1h_tvj212
    @t1h_tvj212 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Bro is fighting just to take a vote from steph 😭😭😭😭😭, he don’t even want kawhi to win . He just want to take the vote away to hate lmao , this is INSANE AMOUNTS OF HATE

  • @MariWrst
    @MariWrst ปีที่แล้ว +14

    30 pts on 50/45/90 while having the best record ever, while also leading the league in scoring and steals....but it shouldn't have been unanimous 💀

  • @marquivionblack4490
    @marquivionblack4490 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    100% was one of Chills nastiest takes all time.

  • @LilRod2
    @LilRod2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It’s just no way that chill actually believes what he is saying. It has to be dementia

    • @thsu8
      @thsu8 ปีที่แล้ว

      You casuals haven’t figured out that Chill is a Klutch sports agent paid by Rich Paul to spread LBJ propaganda online that elevates LeBron and diminish MJ, Kobe, and Steph?

  • @teal2913
    @teal2913 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Curry had one of the best scoring seasons in nba history. Not just shooting season. He had the most efficient 30 ppg season of all time. And it wasnt 50/40/90, it was 50/45/90.

    • @charlesc751
      @charlesc751 ปีที่แล้ว

      Obviously curry was better offensively but let’s not overlook the fact that Kawhi shot 50/44/87

    • @SDTheGhost23
      @SDTheGhost23 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There is no point in bringing up that stat for Kawhi because if he shot 11 3s like Steph his fg drops drastically. All 50/40/90's aren't the same.

    • @andrewlynch9586
      @andrewlynch9586 ปีที่แล้ว

      he had the best offensive season in NBA history just call it what it is

    • @teal2913
      @teal2913 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@charlesc751 it's an understatement to just say he was better offensively than Kawhi, that season has an argument for best offensive season of all time. Kawhi wasn't in the same realm as that, he had great year but Curry had an all time great year.

    • @charlesc751
      @charlesc751 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teal2913i never said curry didn’t have an all time great year. I’m just saying you guys are overlooking how good Kawhi was offensively that year

  • @581708
    @581708 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wait so what I’m hearing is that Steph should be penalized because his teammates got better and the spurs didn’t wanna move past the old guys wow the world we live in lol

  • @webslinger4733
    @webslinger4733 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    No way chill compared 21 pts a game to THIRTY ppg on 50/40/90 splits.

  • @yogrannybae5189
    @yogrannybae5189 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Chill and dub are the biggest Steph haters

  • @DarkStarRG
    @DarkStarRG ปีที่แล้ว +17

    hatertown

  • @aaby3964
    @aaby3964 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Yea it’s official chill hates steph

    • @vishnuavva9265
      @vishnuavva9265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kobe too. Deep down he knows they both are better than Lebron

  • @lazndora2026
    @lazndora2026 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Chilltwn is just bitter his cousin and "goat" weren't the first to win unanimously

    • @sportstalkonly1442
      @sportstalkonly1442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know why u put quotation marks around goat. Yeah clearly a certain someone was robbed of unanimous mvp before curry got it.

    • @Milehigh_
      @Milehigh_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Truth be told MJ should've been the first unanimous MVP in league history in '96 and Shaq should've been the 2nd one in '00

    • @kobesan42
      @kobesan42 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Milehigh_I think that’s his reasoning, because if melo could get a vote over bron I don’t see why kawhi couldn’t get a random vote over curry

  • @LordisBOND
    @LordisBOND ปีที่แล้ว +9

    2016 Curry was shooting 50% from fg as a 6'2 guard. shooting 45% from 3 on 11 attempts. Was guarded the from half court line. Not to mention the insane gravity he holds, his amazing off ball movement. He sat out most 4th quarters, still managed to average 30. Kawhi dpoy and spurs 40-1 record don't mean shii in that scenario.

  • @mybestnugget7514
    @mybestnugget7514 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Curry’s team won 73 games. If you have any understanding of how this award works, whatsoever, you should have expected Steph to win MVP.

    • @haadtheevision
      @haadtheevision ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He's saying Steph shouldn't have won it unanimously, which is still stupid

    • @Joshua-qc1li
      @Joshua-qc1li ปีที่แล้ว

      @@haadtheevisionit’s not a terrible take. Kawhis team won 6 less games and they were by far the inferior team to the warriors. I get should have got a few votes but curry would have ended up winning because of dominance. It’s like harden averaging 36/7/8/2 in 2019 to lose the MVP to Giannis

    • @calmdownbruh8518
      @calmdownbruh8518 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Joshua-qc1li It's a terrible take. It's simply disregarding the entirety of the season. Led his team to a 73-9 record, averaged 30ppg/7ast/5reb on 50/45/90, led the league in steals and scoring and was outplaying other candidates head to head. He hit every single mark you'd want out of an mvp season and more. No one who watched Steph that year thought anyone else was getting that mvp.

    • @mybestnugget7514
      @mybestnugget7514 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@haadtheevision yes he should have won it unanimously, his team won an NBA record 73 games🙄 it’s like you guys genuinely don’t understand how MVP works. They just started giving this shit to players on 6th seed teams (Westbrook and Jokic) but before that you had to be a top 2 seed to win. It used to be a team record award. The best player on the team with the best record wins it. It’s how Steve Nash won 2 of them

    • @haadtheevision
      @haadtheevision ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mybestnugget7514 Dude im agreeing with you

  • @lilrock447
    @lilrock447 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm a Kawhi fan and I wouldn’t even argue this, I would argue that 2017 kawhi should’ve won mvp not 2016

    • @lockedn4L
      @lockedn4L ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I aint even a fan of westbrook but this comment is crazy. Not giving kawhi a vote over harden in 17. Kawhi regular season stats never was mvp caliber. Andrew wiggins has more career points which is damn near criminal

    • @SmoothCapalot-t8k
      @SmoothCapalot-t8k ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you

    • @dabilaroali1037
      @dabilaroali1037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldnt say he should win in 2017 but he would have a better case imo since at this point he pretty much became the kawhi we know today on the offensive side.

    • @andrewlynch9586
      @andrewlynch9586 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kawhi definitely had a case in 2017 I'm not saying I would have voted for him but there's a logical argument one could make for him that season@@lockedn4L

    • @Milehigh_
      @Milehigh_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah that 2017 MVP really belonged to James Harden we all know they only gave it to Westbrook because of the record breaking triple doubles

  • @Mj_flockkk
    @Mj_flockkk ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Chill cmon bro you rarely ever make bad takes but this take is just atrocious like you gotta put the bottle down🤦🏽‍♂️ kawhi played amazing but curry just played RIDICULOUSLY OUTSTANDING like dude gave us a top 2 offense season of all time, average 30 on the most efficient scoring season of all time, led the league in steals, cracked 4 benchmarks that we never seen before like yall hate on curry because he made players wanna learn how to shoot instead of be one dimensional paint finishers

    • @vishnuavva9265
      @vishnuavva9265 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If you actually listen to his takes most of them are extremely stupid. He glazes Lebron to the max and hates Kobe and curry as well

  • @sergeistalin7916
    @sergeistalin7916 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Come on, like Kawhi was great, but Curry won more, scored more while being far more efficient and had one of the best individual seasons of all time. He was so good people started talking about if he had a bigger impact than MJ.
    Kawhi scoring 21 points per game was far less efficient than Curry scoring 30 points per game while taking circus shots, people realize how crazy is that?

    • @charlesc751
      @charlesc751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok. Just don’t mention defense.

    • @sergeistalin7916
      @sergeistalin7916 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@charlesc751 How impactful is a 1 perimeter players defense in a 5v5?
      1 Player having elite offense is always far more impactful than 1 guy having elite perimeter defense.

    • @charlesc751
      @charlesc751 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sergeistalin7916 very impactful actually. Teams were avoiding whatever side of the court kawhi was on. Offense >= defense. Much closer than people think

    • @sergeistalin7916
      @sergeistalin7916 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@charlesc751 5v5 defense is close to 5v5 offense, but as an individual player your defense doesnt really affect the game that much by himself.
      Kawhi and 4 G league players are not going to be the best defense in the league because 1 defender cant guard 5 players. On the other hand we saw Curry and 3 G league players be the best offense in the NBA with him on the floor.
      1 great offensive player can carry an offense by himself, 1 perimeter defender cannot.

    • @calmdownbruh8518
      @calmdownbruh8518 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@charlesc751 Not for nothing but Steph led the league in steals as well. What more are you gonna ask of him when he's giving you 30/7/5 on 50/45/95 splits? Y'all are ridiculous. 💀

  • @itssjdrip
    @itssjdrip ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For anyone else to get a number 1 vote in 2016 would have been laughable actually

  • @Enorm15947
    @Enorm15947 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Chill was reaching for anything to make a horrible argument

  • @Thebestoutthere
    @Thebestoutthere ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Idc what you did in that 2016 regular season outside of stephen curry. Dude was sitting out after 3 quarters because of blowouts 😂 73-9. Curry deserved the unanimous mvp.

  • @prettyboyniko8273
    @prettyboyniko8273 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta respect the hate😂😂😂 i never even heard of this argument b4 anywhere else😂

  • @TurKishsoulja
    @TurKishsoulja ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's stupid that in the NBA you benefit more as a player in these debates if your team mates are worse. You can be a good player that makes the finals with lesser talent and that somehow makes you better than someone who wins automatically.

  • @fifstir
    @fifstir ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not to mention a lot of them games Curry didn’t even play in the 4th quarter.

  • @silenthorus
    @silenthorus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Curry also led the league in steals that year😮‍💨

  • @gunny-lneck4352
    @gunny-lneck4352 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Chill would be the guy to vote for Allen Iverson and Melo

    • @daevonthesavage7483
      @daevonthesavage7483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      nah he wouldn't have voted iverson over his cousin. and definitely not melo cause he's a bron guy.

    • @mybestnugget7514
      @mybestnugget7514 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guarantee he doesn’t think Melo deserves a vote in 2013 even though Melo and Kobe were *obviously* more valuable to their teams than LeBron

    • @gunny-lneck4352
      @gunny-lneck4352 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daevonthesavage7483 I know I’m just comparing, chills extremely biased for some players but acts like he isn’t it’s a little annoying but overall I love his takes

    • @daevonthesavage7483
      @daevonthesavage7483 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gunny-lneck4352 true. I wholeheartedly agree.

  • @walk_er
    @walk_er ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They robbed chill’s cousin out of the unanimous mvp so he feels away about it

  • @Zay0321
    @Zay0321 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Chill congrats. this is Players Choice worst take in history. And you literally had no logical explanation. Just like Kobe at 11.

  • @Anonymityfan
    @Anonymityfan 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The thing about being unanimous MVP is it doesn't matter how great the 2nd guy was if everyone can agree that the 1st guy was the best so yh Kahwi was great but saying Steh should not have been unanimous is wrong imo. I do think that there should ahve been a bunch of unanimous MVP's before that though.

  • @ThereGoXay
    @ThereGoXay ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Again chill town just chatting
    Chill actually right behind ticket with terrible takes

  • @sillyweebanimeisforkids3413
    @sillyweebanimeisforkids3413 ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem with Chill logic I'd the MVP isn't (shouldn't be) a coordinated effort.
    There was no coordinated effort to make Curry unanimous. All thr voters simply viewed Curry as the best that year.
    If Chill had a vote, it wouldn't have been unanimous. Simple as that

  • @carteljameson8395
    @carteljameson8395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude is delusional.

  • @jordanross8561
    @jordanross8561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    * sighs * here we go again 😭😭😭 like bruh

  • @andrewlynch9586
    @andrewlynch9586 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One second "I'm not saying Curry shouldn't have won MVP" 1 minute later "I would have voted for Kawhi Leonard" this dude hates Curry for reasons I don't understand

  • @canadadry4609
    @canadadry4609 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tbh marz is a kawhi hater just as much as chill is a steph hater lol

    • @MarzTalksSports
      @MarzTalksSports ปีที่แล้ว +4

      what????????

    • @canadadry4609
      @canadadry4609 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MarzTalksSports
      Ay man, i see how you talk about his defense in general, and his defense specifically in that bucks series down 0-2. You do a lot to discredit that man.
      You rank his peak highly though so i give you credit there.

    • @MarzTalksSports
      @MarzTalksSports ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@canadadry4609 I called him the 2nd best wing defender ever,i just dispute the 'he locked up giannis' narrative thats all

  • @walk_er
    @walk_er ปีที่แล้ว

    7:15😭😭like bruh what?

  • @LeoPlaysOverwatch
    @LeoPlaysOverwatch ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old man just goofy

  • @paulohenri5854
    @paulohenri5854 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kawhi was not even the best defender in the league this year was Draymoond

    • @RATEDRSportsDebates
      @RATEDRSportsDebates ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You don’t know basketball, draymond green was not on kawhi level defensively

    • @ila83
      @ila83 ปีที่แล้ว

      The fact that u said draymond who was on Steph’s team just gives credence to why this argument is valid kawhi essentially had to be his teams draymond and to a lesser degree his teams steph all in one

  • @Anonymityfan
    @Anonymityfan 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wilt has leadthe league in scoring and fg% before too

  • @WineWithDeej
    @WineWithDeej ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is click bait foolishness lol absolutely nothing to debate

  • @freezydmx7820
    @freezydmx7820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kawhi got robbed in 2015-17. He should have won at least 3 mvps.

    • @lazndora2026
      @lazndora2026 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're out your damn mind 😂😂😂

    • @imbetter14
      @imbetter14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no

  • @Dex20k
    @Dex20k ปีที่แล้ว

    Kawhi Joined A Already Winning Team But people fail to realize that😂😂💯

    • @alex84167
      @alex84167 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kawhi got drafted into a team that just lost to the 8th seed in the first round in 2011. Spurs were not trash but they were far from the championship contenders they once were.

  • @RATEDRSportsDebates
    @RATEDRSportsDebates ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Kawhi definitely had a case I could argue he should’ve won it, anchored the best defense in league, while giving you elite offense production with elite efficiency, won DPOY that year and also first team all nba, So he had more value than curry defensively, he’s one best offensive players and best defensive player in league

    • @MarzTalksSports
      @MarzTalksSports ปีที่แล้ว +10

      id expect nothing less

    • @RATEDRSportsDebates
      @RATEDRSportsDebates ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MarzTalksSports that what you say when you no rebuttal

    • @SmoothCapalot-t8k
      @SmoothCapalot-t8k ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course your fanboy ass agrees😭

    • @MarzTalksSports
      @MarzTalksSports ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RATEDRSportsDebates yep

    • @imherissue
      @imherissue ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@RATEDRSportsDebateshe cooked your paragraph with 4 words i wouldn’t let that happen to me tho 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @thetruth3454
    @thetruth3454 ปีที่แล้ว

    i'm with chilltwn

  • @teal2913
    @teal2913 ปีที่แล้ว

    wrong

  • @tmizzle89
    @tmizzle89 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chill don't like curry, because curry is lebron biggest rival.

  • @canadadry4609
    @canadadry4609 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy

  • @king-spj-8667
    @king-spj-8667 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drug test chilltwn today. Df????

  • @simba4592
    @simba4592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn’t Steph Average 2 steals that season tho as well