It just lacks the organic dirtiness of the original. The original track has such a density to the sounds, like a gravity, that is hard to explain. It's like the sonic equivalent to a black hole. Kudos to you for taking the time to attempt a re-creation of this iconic track, but I don't think it can be duplicated, it's very special. Keep up the good work on your channel.
DJ Trace's DSCI4 are still making this, John Rolodex' Machinist Music, and Humanoid from Berlin (Xenon, PRTCL, and they had Raiden and Trace on a release too). Check them out :)
for that techstep vibe go for samurai recordings. wasn't really interested in dnb for the last few years, especially after listening to some old Ed Rush & Optical mixes, and maybe a month ago just find out about samurai. really missed that feeling, that this type of dnb is something where i want to use all my skills, not aiming for lo-fi sound like i tend to while making some 4/4 music
Utterly menacing track, the soundtrack to being chased by the terminator or zombies! I read they used lots of guitar distortion pedals during a studio session. I think the bass and the reese are actually the same instrument, it just gets octaved up/perhaps unfiltered a bit end of bar (made a preset on V-Synth that is very close, need to be home alone to use it!). Kudos again, very difficult to get that dirty in a modern DAW.
To all The Nine fans, it's fun to track the idea's progress: Genoforce (Maldini, Dbridge, Genotype) - The Germ >>> Absolute Zero (Fresh) + Subphonics (Maldini and uncredited Dbridge) - The Code >>> Fresh & Vegas - Mekon >>> BC - The Nine I would say that this idea evolved further into BC - Seizure and BC - Equilibrium obviously
@KRISPEdnb China Cup is still one of my favorites. Watching these guys competing with the Virus, Ram, Renegade Hardware, Prototype, 1210, V recordings and and others back in the day was epic. It felt like new ground was being broken every week.
I did recreate the Alien Girl patch with z3ta once, based on an old Access Virus patch. I had to resample it and timestretch part of it to get it to work right. I initially thought it needed an LFO to get it right, but that approach didn't work. I've tried to do it on other synths including Serum, but never with good results. It was OK in Vital though.
It's a nice attempt. But I suspect the reece wasn't done on a synth. I was into punk and metal when this song dropped and I played guitar. The sound effects sound a lot more like feedback from a guitar with loads of reverb and the Reese drop sounds more characteristic of a distorted electric guitar being detuned with the whammy bar. Also, the stabs sound like 5th, or a traditional power chord on a guitar. The sound is far more organic than what synth were doing at the time, and I remember buying it upon release rather surprised at the sound. The predecessor to it, or the the blue print to The Nine, called The Code on Hardware was was obviously done on synth, and is still a killer track
In the UK, metal and punk was far and away from jungle/d&b which was urban/street music, the scenes were worlds apart here. Almost anti each other. The majority of people making it didn't play guitars and have metal/punk backgrounds like in America. Chances of making The Nine with a guitar are slim to none. Here's what they said about making The Nine - The heart of it was an EMU 16400 Ultra sampler. It was run through the desk, Mackie speakers and a whole load of distortion pedals and compressors externally. We sequenced on an Atari ST with a really early version of Cubase. We’d have sampling sessions before we’d start a track; old music, old films, anything. We might find one break or some old hats or anything that captured an aura. We never looked for samples to fit something, we would start with the sample.
@@reclused I'm from the UK. I grew up in London, spent the 90 at raves, both legal and underground parties. I was there from the birth of hardcore. People like Klute and Gizz from the Prodigy were well known punks and in punk bands. Dylan is well known for his metal background and going to gigs. I knew a few NO U Turn artists who loved a bit of metal. There was a lot more cross over than you think. If you don't believe it, then you obviously wasn't there. Just look at the digital hardcore in the mid 90's for example, that was nothing but fusing dnb breaks, sample with punk and metal. Where exactly in that quote does it say the sample was not an electric guitar? I know you have edited your comment, after presuming I was American and also your claim it was done with a synth. If you don't believe, read what Optical says 10 paragraphs down and check out what he says in the last paragraph. www.djtimes.com/2016/09/optical-d-n-b-legend/
I agree, even though I'm no expert but the original sounds a lot more sophisticated than presented here, almost as if there was an "outside" help in the making)
Loads of people like various types of music and I knew quite a few metal and punk fans who loved jungle and drum n bass and went to raves ! Even though the music sounds very different
Nico Sykes ( owner of no u turn records ) one of the originators of the well know filthy dirty Reese sound found on classics like dj traces mutant revisited was quoted saying after he made his Reese he used to put them trough a boss distortion peddle ( not sure the model but it was the orange and black colour one ) made popular by punk and metal bands !!! Facts !!!
The Reese formula in mid-90s went: take an analog polysynth with unison function and it will do ~some~ Reese(s), but adding a back-end resonant HPF does more. A good pitch-shifter (such as H3000) goes further still. In East-Coast synthesis terms a Reese is basically a modulated Tuba patch, w/ optionally: overloading the mixer input for grunt+color, and then reverberate/double to glue it into the mix.
The difference between spending weeks sculpting just a hihat pattern and banging out a tutorial for YT is quite obvious, nethertheless i enjoyed this explanation of the core elements of such an iconic piece of dnb history.
You kill it every time man! What program are you running to capture your screen and video? Do you use something like OBS, or do you record it all individually and then put it together in something like a final cut? you should make a vid on that one day
Late 90s thru like 2008 or so.. that is when dnb lived !!! Not a lot of guys still going that sound Maybe Dom and Roland and heard some Ed Rush tracks newer that have “the sound”.. that techstep sound
Omg i grew up with this song. I was 13 i heared it the first time since then i fell in love with dnb and still love it. I hear so much diffrent music but dnb is the only one wich activates something inside me
Tease the Nine! Its practically tradition to tease this tune in before Dropping it a time or 2! I have an awesome mix of it with Quadrant & Cease - Blood on our hands!
Haha that photo, when Jason still had hair. I'm gonna share this with him. Bit harder when your using an Amiga to sequence, an Emu synth, and hardware samplers and effects I should imagine.
Nice video! Such a classic tune, and at nearly 25yrs old (it was released in 98, not 2000) it still shits on a lot of stuff today! Absolute banger! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wicked wicked video as always. At 11:43 I actually think that sounds more like the reese pattern on Son Of Nitrous! Defintely captured that Bad Company sound either way.
Love this! Any chance we could get a tutorial/break down of Bad Companys 'Hornet'? Regarding your question, I initially heard this track in a graffiti movie my older brother had on VHS in the very early 2000s, brings back memories!
pretty good. was expecting it to sound more like it but it would definitely make me think '...sounds like the nine!...' . so you've done the job. thanks. didn't know any o' that!
I know this was not a real The Nine remake, but i think this "Beep" sound should be a lot more heavier, i think this is not a just "Beep", its something different, but yeah, you got nice result here
Very impressed that you took this track on, but then I wondered who else could have done it? Nailed it once again! Even making me wanna try my own recreation ...
Well running across this has been a great help, I didn't realize I was doing the main line wrong, I thought it was G/G#! I've been working on de-making DnB to doom metal!
Be dee be dee by dee by dee by da Ey be dee bow dee bow dee bow da Ganja makes my living longa Ganja makes my living longa Stronga I say Re, You say Wind Re WIND Re WIND Re WIND Absolutely wicked, Absolutely respect Can You make some noise for DJ selecta.
I would love to see someone recreate these original tracks with the same equipment that the original producers did !!!!! Because they certainly weren’t made like this and the modern equipment looses some of the depth and warm feeling of the beats and bass and they never have the same sound and always sound way to clean and too digital!!!
Very good effort. But I don't think you got the right notes for the reese switch up. As well as pitching down, it sounds like a riff is being played that involves more than just 2 notes?
Can you do a video on how to use this program or software from start for beginners. I want step by step so I can start working on my music with whatever program this is amazing video wow.
Hard bro, you forgot the ghost snares though (shuffle) and the last note on the switch bass is just an semi tone above the root note of the main bass...
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When and where was the FIRST time you heard THE NINE by BAD COMPANY??? 😀
A P.E teacher in my school recommended it to me haha (he likes dnb)
Today and here :)
@@SPURME haha your name
About a year ago when someone recommended it on the comment section of the song ‘the pulse’ by bad company
One nation at Stratford rex, 99 or 2000
It just lacks the organic dirtiness of the original. The original track has such a density to the sounds, like a gravity, that is hard to explain. It's like the sonic equivalent to a black hole. Kudos to you for taking the time to attempt a re-creation of this iconic track, but I don't think it can be duplicated, it's very special. Keep up the good work on your channel.
I wish dnb still sounded like this... no disrespect for the current day productions.... but the vibes back then... the vibes!
Let’s make it bro 😎
DJ Trace's DSCI4 are still making this, John Rolodex' Machinist Music, and Humanoid from Berlin (Xenon, PRTCL, and they had Raiden and Trace on a release too). Check them out :)
for that techstep vibe go for samurai recordings. wasn't really interested in dnb for the last few years, especially after listening to some old Ed Rush & Optical mixes, and maybe a month ago just find out about samurai. really missed that feeling, that this type of dnb is something where i want to use all my skills, not aiming for lo-fi sound like i tend to while making some 4/4 music
@@alexgolubevvv Samurai are so good. Them and UVB-76 really sre something special
@@voynich7825 jan knows
The days of 10 channels of snares, 10 channels of kicks definitely seems to have tapered off. CPU massive crew. Good work mate.
My first rave and every DJ dropped it at least once! This got me into DnB. The original banger for me. Cannot wait for this! Big Up!
oh mate these tutorials are getting better and better. finding out how all my old favourites are put together is magic!
Those Snares remind me of Tomb Raider….. also by Fresh….. loving this Stranjah! 👌🏻
easy boy, that bassline hasnt even droppped yet
Listen to shadow boxing......
The two go well.
Utterly menacing track, the soundtrack to being chased by the terminator or zombies! I read they used lots of guitar distortion pedals during a studio session. I think the bass and the reese are actually the same instrument, it just gets octaved up/perhaps unfiltered a bit end of bar (made a preset on V-Synth that is very close, need to be home alone to use it!). Kudos again, very difficult to get that dirty in a modern DAW.
Not to be a killjoy but the nine come out in 1998
The 1st repress was in 2000
OOPS, got my history wrong, thank you!
@@STRANJAH it's all good bro. . no harm intended...
Keep doing these classic track rebuilds I love it!!!
My favorite part of this track is that moment where the drums kind of stutter and catch up to the beat.
Happens at 2:56 in the version on Apple Music.
The best dnb tune of all time
To all The Nine fans, it's fun to track the idea's progress:
Genoforce (Maldini, Dbridge, Genotype) - The Germ >>> Absolute Zero (Fresh) + Subphonics (Maldini and uncredited Dbridge) - The Code >>> Fresh & Vegas - Mekon >>> BC - The Nine
I would say that this idea evolved further into BC - Seizure and BC - Equilibrium obviously
yeaah shoulda sampled The Germ for the iconic moment
Interesting! Cheers O5KAR!
I suppose we could add Bad Company - Seizure after The Nine. China Cup sounds like they resampled bass from The Code.
@KRISPEdnb China Cup is still one of my favorites. Watching these guys competing with the Virus, Ram, Renegade Hardware, Prototype, 1210, V recordings and and others back in the day was epic. It felt like new ground was being broken every week.
Thats nine tracks, maybe you worked out what the nine actually means!
This track just hits different.
one of the best dnb tracks from the 90s
I like the way Stranjah says popular.
Ok..my all time favorite DnB tune. You got my attention.
The off-beat-on-beat break is still the best drum pattern ever used in dnb! Oh to relive those days again... all good things must come to an end:(
@STRANJAH if you fancy tackling Alien Girl at some point mate that would also be HUGE! 😊 🙏
Yes
Yes Yes
and more yes
Featuring the Simpsons schoolbus door opening sound, for extra authenticity..
I did recreate the Alien Girl patch with z3ta once, based on an old Access Virus patch. I had to resample it and timestretch part of it to get it to work right. I initially thought it needed an LFO to get it right, but that approach didn't work. I've tried to do it on other synths including Serum, but never with good results. It was OK in Vital though.
The Nine and Titan, the two tunes that will ALWAYS make the crowd go wild... Andy C and Marky dropping them... OMG !!!! Amazing memories !
And lets not forget Planet Dust... EIB dropping them as well was timeless
It's a nice attempt. But I suspect the reece wasn't done on a synth. I was into punk and metal when this song dropped and I played guitar. The sound effects sound a lot more like feedback from a guitar with loads of reverb and the Reese drop sounds more characteristic of a distorted electric guitar being detuned with the whammy bar. Also, the stabs sound like 5th, or a traditional power chord on a guitar. The sound is far more organic than what synth were doing at the time, and I remember buying it upon release rather surprised at the sound. The predecessor to it, or the the blue print to The Nine, called The Code on Hardware was was obviously done on synth, and is still a killer track
In the UK, metal and punk was far and away from jungle/d&b which was urban/street music, the scenes were worlds apart here. Almost anti each other. The majority of people making it didn't play guitars and have metal/punk backgrounds like in America. Chances of making The Nine with a guitar are slim to none.
Here's what they said about making The Nine -
The heart of it was an EMU 16400 Ultra sampler. It was run through the desk, Mackie speakers and a whole load of distortion pedals and compressors externally. We sequenced on an Atari ST with a really early version of Cubase. We’d have sampling sessions before we’d start a track; old music, old films, anything. We might find one break or some old hats or anything that captured an aura. We never looked for samples to fit something, we would start with the sample.
@@reclused I'm from the UK. I grew up in London, spent the 90 at raves, both legal and underground parties. I was there from the birth of hardcore. People like Klute and Gizz from the Prodigy were well known punks and in punk bands. Dylan is well known for his metal background and going to gigs. I knew a few NO U Turn artists who loved a bit of metal. There was a lot more cross over than you think. If you don't believe it, then you obviously wasn't there. Just look at the digital hardcore in the mid 90's for example, that was nothing but fusing dnb breaks, sample with punk and metal.
Where exactly in that quote does it say the sample was not an electric guitar?
I know you have edited your comment, after presuming I was American and also your claim it was done with a synth.
If you don't believe, read what Optical says 10 paragraphs down and check out what he says in the last paragraph.
www.djtimes.com/2016/09/optical-d-n-b-legend/
I agree, even though I'm no expert but the original sounds a lot more sophisticated than presented here, almost as if there was an "outside" help in the making)
Loads of people like various types of music and I knew quite a few metal and punk fans who loved jungle and drum n bass and went to raves ! Even though the music sounds very different
Nico Sykes ( owner of no u turn records ) one of the originators of the well know filthy dirty Reese sound found on classics like dj traces mutant revisited was quoted saying after he made his Reese he used to put them trough a boss distortion peddle ( not sure the model but it was the orange and black colour one ) made popular by punk and metal bands !!! Facts !!!
The Reese formula in mid-90s went: take an analog polysynth with unison function and it will do ~some~ Reese(s), but adding a back-end resonant HPF does more. A good pitch-shifter (such as H3000) goes further still.
In East-Coast synthesis terms a Reese is basically a modulated Tuba patch, w/ optionally: overloading the mixer input for grunt+color, and then reverberate/double to glue it into the mix.
The difference between spending weeks sculpting just a hihat pattern and banging out a tutorial for YT is quite obvious, nethertheless i enjoyed this explanation of the core elements of such an iconic piece of dnb history.
You kill it every time man! What program are you running to capture your screen and video? Do you use something like OBS, or do you record it all individually and then put it together in something like a final cut? you should make a vid on that one day
Yes OBS. Sent you a DM on Instagram! Bigup!
@Dub FX . BIG UPs n MAD LOVE bruva.
Late 90s thru like 2008 or so..
that is when dnb lived !!!
Not a lot of guys still going that sound
Maybe Dom and Roland and heard some Ed Rush tracks newer that have “the sound”.. that techstep sound
another really interesting vid thanks. The Reece seems a way off the original in sound and arrangement, but the tutorial was fascinating all the same
I remember when this came out. It was a MASSIVE release and kind of took D&B and rave in general to another level.
Omg i grew up with this song. I was 13 i heared it the first time since then i fell in love with dnb and still love it. I hear so much diffrent music but dnb is the only one wich activates something inside me
Big up for this one. One of the most if not the most double dropped tune in DnB.
Tease the Nine! Its practically tradition to tease this tune in before Dropping it a time or 2! I have an awesome mix of it with Quadrant & Cease - Blood on our hands!
best tune of all time
Awesome Stanjah. Thanks!
Haha that photo, when Jason still had hair. I'm gonna share this with him. Bit harder when your using an Amiga to sequence, an Emu synth, and hardware samplers and effects I should imagine.
Great job mate, a true classic. Funny thing is the drums solo'd sound almost identical to fresh's track Tombraider. Big up!
The pound shop version of the Nine! Great work though
🤣
Need to do an Ed Rush and Optical tune from around the sane time. Alien girl or sick note
One of my favourite tracks
Thank you so much for this! I never figured out how the sub was made and now I see it’s that simple - amazing recreation.
Nice video! Such a classic tune, and at nearly 25yrs old (it was released in 98, not 2000) it still shits on a lot of stuff today! Absolute banger! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dude wtf? How is such an iconic bassline so easy lol.
Sub Bass @ 6:47 is has touches of Usual Suspects... brings to mind Killa Bees or Hole Punch
Wicked wicked video as always. At 11:43 I actually think that sounds more like the reese pattern on Son Of Nitrous! Defintely captured that Bad Company sound either way.
deffo
As always, this is so insightful. Love to watch and learn from Stranjah. Really helpful with my D&B production.
This has helped alot, cheers bro can't wait to finish my first track
LIKE before I've finished watching. One of my favorite tracks
First video I discovered from you - liked and subscribed within the first minute 😊
Love this! Any chance we could get a tutorial/break down of Bad Companys 'Hornet'?
Regarding your question, I initially heard this track in a graffiti movie my older brother had on VHS in the very early 2000s, brings back memories!
pretty good. was expecting it to sound more like it but it would definitely make me think '...sounds like the nine!...' . so you've done the job. thanks. didn't know any o' that!
Aboslut classic and one of the most iconic dnb song ever written
Oohhh just noticed.. StranJAH..and I'm SoulJAH haha big up!
Thank you very much, mr. Stranjah!
This videos are amazing!!!
6:40 The bassline always reminded me of Jaws :)
I know this was not a real The Nine remake, but i think this "Beep" sound should be a lot more heavier, i think this is not a just "Beep", its something different, but yeah, you got nice result here
Classic. Still sounds fresh for a tune thats 22 yrs old
Big ups stranjah respect 🙏🏿
Big up the Vengeance kick drum kru dem.
Very impressed that you took this track on, but then I wondered who else could have done it? Nailed it once again! Even making me wanna try my own recreation ...
That was a pretty good recreation..simpler than i imagined but the you got the reese wrong. Its Missing a note!
Classic!!! Maldini dropped the dub at Lakota in Bristol. Great memories.
yeeeeeeessss Nine is one of my very most played Vinyl Single
Great video stranj, spent my night watching from beginning to end.
Yooooo! Another classic! First heard this when I was about 15 and my older friend did the infamous switch up mix (which I still do today) 😂😜
hahah yes its fun to do that in the mix!!
Futuristic nostalgia. Thanx a lot S.
Love that term haah
Would love a WAV/320 of your recreation! Siiiiiiick!
Great Video Thanks Stranjah!
Well running across this has been a great help, I didn't realize I was doing the main line wrong, I thought it was G/G#! I've been working on de-making DnB to doom metal!
big in the game this one mate, well good to see how this one was put together i really enjoyed the vid. respect
That is a legendarily weak fist in the thumbnail.
Yo thanks for doing this Stranjah! Classic tune
I remember when this first came out an absolute huge tune one of my favourites 🔥🔥🔥
oh yeah that strangely mindboggling time shifter is genius :D bad company had it
Be dee be dee by dee by dee by da
Ey be dee bow dee bow dee bow da
Ganja makes my living longa
Ganja makes my living longa
Stronga
I say Re, You say Wind
Re
WIND
Re
WIND
Re
WIND
Absolutely wicked, Absolutely respect
Can You make some noise for DJ selecta.
2:35 sounds exactly like the intro to Tomb Raider by Fresh
Heavy and Dark
Thank you! As always
You could write a book on this tune.
Big up for doing this!
Stranjah - "this is bringing back to the 90's...."
Me - "INNIT!"
What is INNIT?
@@Dko_-ur9xv Is it not. Isn't it. Innit. 👍
Damn that's close! Much respect, really like these video's, great insight
A tall order bro, but I think you did a good job here.
Thank you, yes it actually took a while to get it to where its at!
Yes, yes! Very nice man. Well done. Thank you
Yo, thank you so much for this. Absolute classic!
Please show how to make Noisia - The Tide tearing stab (Z-z) in massive
stranjah to be fair to you doing it yourself that two step at the beginning sounding nice man! Less of the old 90’s naughty references though 😉
The Nine came out in 1998, with the Bridge as a B-Side. The repress with Dogfight came out in 2000. Cool video though.
Dude this was incredible 🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼
you've missed out clipping the EMU 😅
Well done buddy!! This track was huge! Brings me back to many good nights back here in the UK!
Was? In my eyes it's still is a top dnb track that doesn't age and will smash a lot of this 'new' dnb
@@y3v1k And yes 'was huge'. It's not huge anymore, just a golden gem/classic 👍
I would love to see someone recreate these original tracks with the same equipment that the original producers did !!!!! Because they certainly weren’t made like this and the modern equipment looses some of the depth and warm feeling of the beats and bass and they never have the same sound and always sound way to clean and too digital!!!
Well done!
Very good effort. But I don't think you got the right notes for the reese switch up. As well as pitching down, it sounds like a riff is being played that involves more than just 2 notes?
You’re right. I think the last note of the Reece bit is a G
Thanks for great breakdowns
Nice one. It is a sick track, and you've made a great recreation
Nice one. I'd love to see a similar video where it gets recreated on the equipment they had back then
Hot damn takin it back back
I can't produce to save my love but these reconstructions are always so interesting!
Subbed. Fascinating to see this awesome music broken down.
Can you do a video on how to use this program or software from start for beginners. I want step by step so I can start working on my music with whatever program this is amazing video wow.
Amazing insight, your videos are great
Sick stranjah!
I'm 40 next month no way was i 19 when i bought this on vinyl !
Madness
Hell YEAH!!
Hard bro, you forgot the ghost snares though (shuffle) and the last note on the switch bass is just an semi tone above the root note of the main bass...
A sharp...
I actually think it slides from a sharp to b flat lol
Yeah the last note on the switch bass is not right in his version, pitch bend is spot on tho!
@@dan_apeks he done a good job though, the beat sounds good and the bass sound is decent, just that last note and the ghost snares
@@Adam-g-uk for sure. The guy is a legend, helping spread the knowledge. ♥️