Whoever recorded this performance did a ridiculously good job whether they realize it or not! And whoever decided to use this instrumentation for the 'sextuor,' especially the contrabass and theorbo, was using their brain! The interpretation is really good as well. One of the best actually... That, combined with the absolute melodic and harmonic genius of MR. JEAN PHILIPPE RAMEAU results in a thing that is, dare I say, TOO GOOD.
How can be Rameau not considered on the same level as Bach or Handel I just can't understand, he had immense knowledge, technical skill, experimentation and taste. And what dramatist and orchestrator he was!! Perhaps it is still for these obvious historical and political reasons(German romantic nationalism and French Revolution) that left his work forgotten until the early 20th century.
I think the french audience was different from german or english at this epoc and the genius of Rameau was to give them what they could ear and not to lead them to too metaphysic or abstract music like Bach or too harmonical and elaborated works such as Haendel.. Plus he could not go too far from Lully standards and had to sound typical french ..What he did brillantly.. His other handicap is that he was considedred as the old regime 's typical musician and was eclipsed after french revolution and just exhumated recently..new générations need time to learn know appreciate his music and it takes long.. by the way, i do not think he can be said being at same level as Bach.. he is really essentially different.. his works were not based on musical architecture , but on the research of theatrical effects due to harmony.. the parques trio in Hyppolite and Aricie for example..
Rameau is very highly regarded by musicologists and performers. Modern audiences favor solo concertos and Italian opera, so Rameau is not writing in "popular" genres. However, instrumental suites from his operas do very well on TH-cam.
@@VoicesofMusic there was also another thing just 40 years after the baroque era. Just before the French revolution the works of rameau were famous among the nobles. So, it was considered by the rebels that any art that expressed the nobles and the aristocracy would "corrupt" the Republic . The fact that rameau's work is a bit underrated can be explained by the French rebels who just ruined whatever had to do with nobility.
Congratulations, you have a really refined work! All tracks are very well performed, and your wonderful energy and joy are visible! Thank you very much for sharing!
The beauty of his music vibrated at the same level as that of J.S Bach and Handel. For me, they represent three pinnacles of achievement that are hard to reach in Baroque, let alone surpassed. ♥
Gorgeous. This is my favorite version of this piece, thanks to both, the transcription and your interpetation. (Absurdely, the French Wikipedia site is entirely devoted to "questioning" the role of Rameau himself in this arrangement of his "Pièce en Concert", and to its "relative clumsiness"!)
It's a very interesting version; possibly one of his students, but we can't rule out that Rameau made such an arrangement and this may be a later copy or rearrangement.
Voices of Music Omg. That’s versatile and really amazing :). Btw, is there any plans of making a video about the different ways of holding the baroque violin? I’ve noticed that it varies from ensamble to ensamble and searching through TH-cam I didn’t found anything about it :(.
lamusicamagnifica14 This is TH-cam problem that pops up every now and then. You can try back later, try a different browser or even a different playback resolution. Most of the time it repairs itself, but sometimes not, but only TH-cam can fix it. The vid is also available on Vimeo.
On J P Rameau 'Les tendres Plaintes' zingt een merel ( Piu-Piu ) mee met het clavichord , hij komt er voor naar binnen en is steeds langdurig geboeid, je gelooft je oren en ogen niet. perlesbaroques meerdere opnamen
I have never before heard such a realistic, full sound from my speakers. My highest compliments to the people who recorded this!
Beautiful rendition of the rarely heard sextet version. Thanks for posting!
Bill skeen is amazing. He can pick up any baroque bass string instrument and play it so well
Vive la musique française,avec son esprit contestataire,elle a influencé toutes les musiques europeennes.
Que dire de plus... Et ca remonte au moins a Dufay, De Machault, DesPrez, et consort.
Whoever recorded this performance did a ridiculously good job whether they realize it or not! And whoever decided to use this instrumentation for the 'sextuor,' especially the contrabass and theorbo, was using their brain! The interpretation is really good as well. One of the best actually... That, combined with the absolute melodic and harmonic genius of MR. JEAN PHILIPPE RAMEAU results in a thing that is, dare I say, TOO GOOD.
yes, very very good ! yes !
looking at the fascinating ballet of the bows it helps to analysing this complicated music
How can be Rameau not considered on the same level as Bach or Handel I just can't understand, he had immense knowledge, technical skill, experimentation and taste. And what dramatist and orchestrator he was!! Perhaps it is still for these obvious historical and political reasons(German romantic nationalism and French Revolution) that left his work forgotten until the early 20th century.
I think the french audience was different from german or english at this epoc and the genius of Rameau was to give them what they could ear and not to lead them to too metaphysic or abstract music like Bach or too harmonical and elaborated works such as Haendel.. Plus he could not go too far from Lully standards and had to sound typical french ..What he did brillantly.. His other handicap is that he was considedred as the old regime 's typical musician and was eclipsed after french revolution and just exhumated recently..new générations need time to learn know appreciate his music and it takes long.. by the way, i do not think he can be said being at same level as Bach.. he is really essentially different.. his works were not based on musical architecture , but on the research of theatrical effects due to harmony.. the parques trio in Hyppolite and Aricie for example..
Rameau is very highly regarded by musicologists and performers. Modern audiences favor solo concertos and Italian opera, so Rameau is not writing in "popular" genres. However, instrumental suites from his operas do very well on TH-cam.
@@VoicesofMusic there was also another thing just 40 years after the baroque era. Just before the French revolution the works of rameau were famous among the nobles. So, it was considered by the rebels that any art that expressed the nobles and the aristocracy would "corrupt" the Republic . The fact that rameau's work is a bit underrated can be explained by the French rebels who just ruined whatever had to do with nobility.
...and the historical political and cultural antipathy between England and France - we have not forgotten 1066!
yes, RAMEAU IS THE FRENCH BACH, HANDEL- JUST EXQUISITE IN ALL THINGS.
Beautiful playing of this serene music.
First time seeing that,mr.willam skeen playing the Basso violino,🤩🤩,and all the the musicians are well done, keep it up
Très beau. Et quelle générosité dans le son ! Merci pour la qualité de votre interprétation.
bij duimpje up wordt hier een 'niet leuk' toegevoegd !
Ravishing texture and so commanding. This music was designed to create emotion
Congratulations, you have a really refined work! All tracks are very well performed, and your wonderful energy and joy are visible! Thank you very much for sharing!
de samenstelling van deze muziek is een ingewikkeld weefsel, heel boeiend !
….schering en inslag
I'm totally hex in listening such wonderful music! It's performed masterfully!
Gave me goosebumps. Wow. Outstanding.
Beautiful playing!
such a beautiful piece
such a beautiful peace ...
Prachtvolle Musik und Muzikanten ! Herzlichen Dank !
I love you guys!
The beauty of his music vibrated at the same level as that of J.S Bach and Handel. For me, they represent three pinnacles of achievement that are hard to reach in Baroque, let alone surpassed. ♥
Superbe interprétation. Bravo.
Hoi Hanneke,
bedankt voor deze prachtige performance!
So beautiful!! Thank you!!
Rammeau was an outstanding talent of the baroque and Roccoco periods
Thanks Quill!
Beautiful, just beautiful =)
Gorgeous!
dit is heerlijk om te horen maar ook heerlijk om te zien . . .
Gorgeous. This is my favorite version of this piece, thanks to both, the transcription and your interpetation. (Absurdely, the French Wikipedia site is entirely devoted to "questioning" the role of Rameau himself in this arrangement of his "Pièce en Concert", and to its "relative clumsiness"!)
It's a very interesting version; possibly one of his students, but we can't rule out that Rameau made such an arrangement and this may be a later copy or rearrangement.
Yes, Wikipedia information while helpful in facts, usually the speculative input can often by highly biased.
Wow. Love this. Interesting to see Skeen on violone
How beautiful! Reminds me of Bach & Handel's music.
This is superb. One of my favorite VOM vids. All of the voices are so clear and articulated with such longing.
what a gem!
Thanks David!
ik kom er niet los van.... het is fascinerend
Bravo to all.
Excelente trabajo
nice music for relaxing and studying! great job!
gorgeous!
Best channel
Splendide 💓💕
Exquisite!
très belle chanson j'adore rameau
Great !
Wow!
Bravo
Thanks to you all ! !
You are very welcome.
Wow, Am I confused or William plays both violone and cello in this ensamble?
And viola da gamba :)
Voices of Music Omg. That’s versatile and really amazing :). Btw, is there any plans of making a video about the different ways of holding the baroque violin? I’ve noticed that it varies from ensamble to ensamble and searching through TH-cam I didn’t found anything about it :(.
This video talks about it but not in great detail th-cam.com/video/nsfYMSI3cuA/w-d-xo.html
Idk if it's just me experiencing this, but every time I hit 1:40 the vid just stops.
lamusicamagnifica14 This is TH-cam problem that pops up every now and then. You can try back later, try a different browser or even a different playback resolution. Most of the time it repairs itself, but sometimes not, but only TH-cam can fix it. The vid is also available on Vimeo.
lamusicamagnifica14 I just watched it now and it played OK...
when with traverso, is that authentic or not ?
There are two versions; the earlier version is with traverso.
@@VoicesofMusic Thank you. Wiith traverso no nice, many less !
i have one
On J P Rameau 'Les tendres Plaintes' zingt een merel ( Piu-Piu ) mee met het clavichord , hij komt er voor naar binnen en is steeds langdurig geboeid, je gelooft je oren en ogen niet. perlesbaroques meerdere opnamen
Bill playing a violone?!?!? Who knew?
So cool!
Two cellos
but this is not einfach, it's difficult to play i think !
Sehr schön ~ einzig das Spinett nervt
Exquisite!