Tentsile Una - Ground Conversion Kit + Bikepacking Hack
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It is fully possible to pitch Tentsil's tree tents on the ground thanks to the new Ground Conversion Kits.
I took out the Una versions for a test pitch to see if it is a viable bit of kit to take bikepacking in the future.
I also tried out a nice little hack to do away with the massive pole that is supplied as standard - it actually works rather well.
If you haven't already watched my first night in, and first review of, the Tentsile Una then please check it out • Gen 3 Tentsile Una - F...
Want bug free additional space when pitching suspended? Check out my Double Bubble review: • Tentsile Una : The Dou...
Want to go ultralight? Check out my video on pitching without the ratchet and weblock: • Tentsile Una - How to ...
0:00 Greetings
0:38 The footprint
1:31 The Mega Pole
2:38 Pitching on the ground
3:45 Materials and zips
5:09 Additional support
5:41 The fly-sheet
7:12 Usable space
8:14 Pitching without the pole
9:35 Summary
10:39 Bye now
You are on the Tentsile website! If you go to ground conversion kits you are one of the model photos!
Oh yeah, good spot!
I think my video is linked to from the site somewhere as well because I get a fair few views from them too.
Very much looking forward to the double bubble review. I did not know about the zip. Notifications on and waiting :)
I meant to film it today but I unfortunately I got sidetracked by a rather splendid lunch and a few beers in my Dad's garden. The sun was shining and I was quickly rendered useless so all my fine plans went out the window.
It will happen though, I promise!
Hey Jethro, almost fooled by the mirror image parting again..haha..you've been using your phone for filming again..haha.
What a faff that lot is! For all the weight, and all the material and all the components; I cant imagine what marker this is aimed at!? To be fair I dont know what a tree tent is. I will have to check them out.
Each to his own, but not for me. I would much sooner have a normal tent. Thanks for another enthusiastic review. Take care Jetro.
Tree tents are great in certain situations and they are great fun. The ground kit is a lot of faff, especially for a tent that is aimed at lightweight, solo trips.
The mirror image is evidence that i either just got a new phone or a software upgrade. I film everything on my camera and it's only when the setting get lost that it reverts to the mirror defaults
I admit I gasped at dem mad bo-skills in 1:55 and 6:25.
I know right? It makes you wonder if I chose the wrong career. It was a toss up between web developer and vigilante ninja assassin. I made my choice, but sometimes I do wonder...
ha! that was my big question. With my regular tent I use a Kevlar TYVEK sheet "scrap from construction" for footprint, clips would be needed.. Telescoping walking pole would be lighter, though you found a way around that. The Amok only uses two ropes. Weight difference and good for face sleepers ?, I'm not sure.. Thanks I had not seen the Una!
Glad to be informative. The Una is good, and works as a hiking/biking tent.
The GCK is not perfect due to the large volume groundsheet but the concept is good.
Very informative, just sub to your channel...Good stuff. Ty
Glad you found it helpful. Thanks for the sub, I hope you find some other stuff here to enjoy :)
Interesting adaptation. Rather than using the front wheel could you just run a cord over the cross bar on the bike while it’s on it’s pop stand?
Yeah, you maybe could. Could flip it over on its bars maybe as well if no stand.
This is an last choice pitch though, I wouldn't sleep in there unless I really had to, its just too small
That pole is ridiculous. So many better options. Thanks for making the video! How do you like the una after using it for a while?
I'll be honest, I've not done much camping since I recorded these video (its been a weird year) so I've only used it a couple of nights.
It is one of those things that is hard to recommend as it revolves around personal preference so tightly.
I like the Una, it is easy to pitch and comfy to sleep in (check my video on pitching without a ratchet if you haven't already - th-cam.com/video/bKra-W-0VWw/w-d-xo.html).
If you like the feeling of sleeping suspended and you have the trees then it is great - I'd recommend it.
For the kind of trips I like to do this is the tree tent to use based on my past experience with the larger Flite.
I'm hoping to do a few trips as soon as lockdown allows and if the Una comes along I will report in again.
I have the ground conversion for the flite. Hoping not to have to ground pitch much because of the loss of space but might actually save me a few quid because I was considering a bivvy and tarp. I wont be using that chunky pole though. Great for car campers I'm sure but cyclists and walkers, not so helpful. It wont pack in my back pack and I'm not carrying it in my hands everywhere. Hopefully they will adapt the design to make it work for those without a car. Crazy oversight that one.
There is definitely a big sacrifice in space when you pitch on the ground and I wouldn't want to do it regularly but having the option there is really cool. The mega pole is crazy though, you are right. On a bike I would always go with the front wheel hack as at the end of this video, for hikers - I guess you could use a trekking pole if you have one?
@@JethroJessop Yes, I will be investing in tracking poles because not only does it make it easier on the knees but because I need one for ground pitching the flite. I love when things have dual purpose.
Were you opposite Bosedown Alpaca Farm?
I was actually a little way downstream from there, on the other side of the river in the meadows between Purley and Pangbourn. More opposite Hardwick than bosedown but I'll give you this one, top hill recognition skills 😉
Local lad I assume?
Hi Jethro, tentsil's sent us 8 sections for the pole but it's too taught to fit - should it be 7 sections?
Off the top of my head I can't say. I'm away from home till Mon night but I'll check mine once I'm back.
Mine fits easily though so if yours is too long it could be a mistake.
They sometimes send out a spare pole section but it shouldn't be tied in with the actual pole set.
Hi there, sorry for the slow reply. You've probably worked it out by now but I've just checked mine and the pole is 7 sections and fits just right.
When I got my previous tentsile (a Flite) that came with a spare pole section so it's not unheard off.
Very cosy.. why the massive pole couldn't be a flexi pole that could fold is mystery. I say forage a stick every time.
Foraging is almost always the answer
relaxing video lol why don't u just use a folding walking stick or a hiking stick
You definitely could but it isn't something I'd carry with me on the bike so the wheel approach seems more practical for a cyclist
@@JethroJessop id just grab a stick from somewhere lol
@@josht.m9697 also a good option
Material for the kit seems too heavy duty... Especially for bikepacking. The pole is madness by Tentsile and must be for the glamping crowd. Have a look at the Kammok Sunda V2 which I'll be running on trips on e the world doesn't end. Love the reviews.
I agree on both points. The footprint could be loads lighter, similar to the footprint of my Copper Spur which fits in a pocket. The pole is simply because it is designed to fit all Tentsile tents, some of which are huge! As shown at the end it really isn't necessary.
On the whole it's not a solution I'd want to use if I didn't have to but nice to have it there I think.
I'll check out the one you mention, always interested to see new kit 😃
For me this whole tent whether pitching in the air to trees or on the ground shouts faff. I wouldn't buy one for hiking or cycling or anything else come to think of it. It just creates too many problems that need a solution. That pole is a case in point. It must be a joke right? Give me a light weight tent every time. Sorry, but have to ask are you promoting these "tents" because of a financial arrangement as far as I can see they would probably only appeal to a very very few hikers or cycle tourists and then used for a first time given up on and put down to a bad experience.
Please do a review of your bike.
No financial arrangement other than they sent me some kit to try. I took a fairly dim view of the Flite in my original vid and Tentsile thought that an Una would address some of the problems I'd had (it does). They obviously want me to say nice things about their gear but I am under absolutely no obligation to do so.
I tends to agree with you and would generally take a standard tent when I'm off into parts unknown but then equally, I wouldn't personally take an ordinary hammock or bivvy or tarp despite the fact that many people absolutely swear by each of these.
Some people like tents, some like hammocks and some like Tentsile's stuff so I'm trying to review without getting too much into my personal preferences. The Una is much easier to pitch than than Flite was, it is comfy to sleep in and small enough to take bike packing. The Ground Kit probably makes it too big for me but would fit a pannier setup. And it does what it is supposed to do.
I'm just trying to show how it works, what you can expect from it and how you can get the most out of it if you choose it.
On the bike review front - I know, I am well slack, sorry. It will happen! And the longer I leave it, the more valid it will be (that's my excuse anyway). Your patience is very much appreciated :)
@@JethroJessop Thank you for your reply. I think the Copper Spur tent you have is far far far superior and much more practical for cycle touring and hiking. The Tentsile flying tents only have novelty value as far as I can see. Camping should be simple and fun. I would prefer a hammock instead and I don't even like hammocks. Sorry to appear as if I have got it in for Tentsile, but they seem to have created a product that makes camping massively complicated and one big faff. Maybe ok in say a camp ground where you are staying for 14 days but not pitching and taking down each night. It would do my head in. Not for me.
I am sure a video about your bike will be a considered assessment when it comes and worth waiting for.
Do you have any trips planned for this year?
So much faff for such a small tent which doesn't really provide much of a living space. Just get a Hilleberg, end of worries...except for your wallet... ;)
It is small but it's definitely a secondary use case for this tent. You wouldn't take it somewhere that you weren't going to be pitching in trees at least 80% of the time. The ground pitches have to be the exception and in those cases you could make the sacrifice.
I tend to agree with you but I'm trying not to review these from my personal preference point of view. If you want to have the tree tent experience then the ground kit will open up a lot of possibilities for you.
I have just been browsing the Hilleberg site. Not a brand I have any experience of but my god they are wallet bruising aren't they! Wonder if they want a handsome British fellow to do some reviews for them :)
@@JethroJessop yeah I agree, in wooded areas a tree tent would make sense. Maybe I am being overly judgemental being from Iceland and really no trees on the island able to support a tent...some can't even support a hammock. I use a Hilleberg Soulo as the winds, rain and temperature call for a sturdy protective tent where I tour and go camping. I know they are incredibly expensive but my justification for buying it is its reputation for being durable, safe, sturdy and its longevity. I'd rather pay a 1000 pound once and use it for more than 10-15 years (which really isn't out of the question for a Hilleberg with proper care and handling) rather than paying 300pounds several times over that span of time for a cheaper and a "lesser" product which won't keep me as safe, dry and warm in Iceland.
It's just horses for courses as you Brits say... :)
In my area, there are a lot of wooded areas, but the best, most secluded are very rocky, marshy or otherwise not generally suited well for a ground applied tent.
With the Una, all those areas are now suitable.With the ground conversion kit, even, flat treeless areas are also suitable. All with the one tent. I just with the tent kept the same footprint but was taller.
@@burnerjack01 The ground kit is good but I hear you about the height.
It's nice as a backup option but I wouldn't want to be spending any more nights in there than I had to - it would quickly get very claustrophobic.
Then again I have a mate who absolutely love sleeping out in his little bivvy bag thing which has even less headroom so I guess it's each to their own
@@andrifsig Hilleberg are vastly overpriced, and most tents around the £300 mark will last just as long, if not longer. In fact Coleman tents over 20 yrs old are very common, and they are much cheaper.