I think it went pretty smoothly and I am glad my Chinese e-Bay part say Premium High Quality on the box. Let me know what you think and don't forger to give a thumbs up or thumbs down!
Seeing you do it and noting stuff about replacement order and where the chain should be, etc. will save somebody's bacon in the future. Could be mine. Thanks.
Hopefully it will help someone, but they only used this engine through 02 or 03, so they are probably going to the crusher and onto the great parking lot in the sky by the hundreds every day now.
I think a lot of what you showed and said can be applied to other engines and why the video is so helpful. Things like checking how many links on the chain between the cam gears; putting a rod (drill bit, screwdriver, etc) in the gear so you don't move it accidentally ; checking for stretch in the chain; order of disassembly and being careful to reassemble the same way, locktite and conversion table to GM specs; using an online Chilton's guide to get instructions and specs; the little plunger thing on the tensioner (I never would have thought of that). So, I think it has been a great video series. When you start it up, you could edit in the sound of a 1000 HP engine just to mess with folks. :)
I may have put that old "good" chain back on rather then the new chinesium one. It was probably built better. HAHA! JK! Nice work Tom. can't wait to hear it run!
Hi Tom, nice video, recently I bought a 2001 sunfire, and I am in the middle of repairing the overhead cam due to high temp. My question is we’re did you find this internet document shown in the video? Thanks
Wow,what a great video!Tom,i really appreciate your effort.I have an Olds Alero in europe,same 2.4 LD9.Stumbled upon your video while searching for erratic idle possible causes,which my car sadly developed.If anything else fails,can i contact you for help maybe?
Sure. This one turned out not to be the timing chain. I had a cracked ring on cylinder 3. I rebuilt the engine. A common problem on these that causes rough idle though is the vacuum line going to the MAP sensor rots out.
Tom my 2.4 Alero started making ticking noise from motor for couple seconds on start up I think it might be timing chain or tensoiner what do you think put water pump on same engine year half go plus new tensioner
With the mileage a Timing chain and tensioners are probably a good idea anyway, but I would be suspicious of a bad lifter. These engines are known for having some of these types of issues on the top end. I would try adding Rislone with your next oil change and see if it clears up. I don't recommend most additives, if you have a sticky/dirty lifter Rislone is something I have had success with to keep from having to tear it down.
G'day Tom, Yay Team ! It begins to appear that "Ah, Pontiac problems..., eh (?) ; probably a stretched Timing-Chain...!", may be some kind of Commercial Mechanic's Urban Myth, perhaps often quoted to both casual Enquirers and prospective Customers, in the sure knowledge that in Labour as well as Swearing-Hours it's easier and cheaper to swap the sick Donkey for an Exchange-Engine than to actually replace the Chain with the Engine remaining in place...(?). That way they divert Backyard Mechanics off down a complicated and difficult Knuckle-Barking Dry-Gulch which they'll probably make a mess of, and the Customers will happily buy the (now repaired) last Engine which they pulled out of the previous "Mark" whom they skinned on the trot (!). Have a good one, ;-p Ciao !
Buenas tardes sr Tom,deseo esté bien. Una pregunta,que aceite debo echarle al motor del Cavalier z24- 2.4,año 2000.ya que se rectificó,cámara,cigüeñal y se encamiso el bloque?De antemano gracias. Le escribe,Charles Sanchez desde Maracay-Venezuela. Dios lo bendiga.
It doesn't have valve covers. I has cam towers. They are a bit of a job to do. I charge $500 labor to do one. To do them you have to take off the outer timing cover, timing chain, inner timing cover, exhaust manifold, and take off the 3 bolts for water pump. Rotate engine 90 degrees when timing chain is off, before you take of the cam sprockets. Make sure you put a towel in the bottom of timing cover when you get the inner off so you don't drop bolt in the oil pan. If you drop a bolt then you have to remove oil pan. Use Indian head gasket sealant on the new cam tower gaskets, and the white permatex gasket sealant on all of the bolts. If you don't it will leak when you are done. I recently tore this down and did mine again. 3 days of work by the time is was done. th-cam.com/video/knpkbxOV90s/w-d-xo.html
Better Compression which equals Better Performance, Higher Efficiency and Fuel Mileage. Better Question though is why design an interference engine with a rubber timing belt instead of a metal chain. I liked my German 2.8 V6 that I had in my Mustang. It was interference (and the Isky Cam and 80 thousanths shaved of the heads made it seriously interfenced), but it had a steel gear to gear timing, with solid lifters. I also loved the offset head and the bottom end was built like a tank. I could wrap that thing up 10,000 RPM's before it would float the valves out of it. The cam's power range was 5K to 8.5K RPM.
Yes you will need to pull the exhaust manifold off to get to the water pump. Some pull the whole inner timing cover which involve removing the cam sprockets and a bunch more gaskets. It's it tight but you can get the water pump done without removing the inner timing cover.
FrugalPrepper's Garage & Garden Ok so if I understand correctly I take off everything you did in these videos plus the exhaust manifold? Also could you give me a list of tools I need it would be very appreciated?
THANK YOU THEN NO LONGER SEEK IT THE LOCALISE WAS MY POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO A LEAK OIL THAT I HAVE AND ALREADY CHANGED THE ENGINE BOARD THANK YOU WERE BAD REPAIR ESNTOSES THIS MOTOR DOES NOT HAVE VALVE PCV
Not sure what you mean by the housing. There is a pipe that comes off of the water pump and there is a housing there, and goes to the thermostat. You can get to that if you pull the exhaust manifold. To change the water pump you will have to pull the timing chain and the exhaust manifold though. You can get a better idea how the water pump is setup on my video here where I rebuilt this engine: th-cam.com/video/Hbl4FULhS78/w-d-xo.html
Hey Tom. Thanks for the video. I'm not familiar with online resources for engines that you show. Can you give a little background, or do a video on getting a subscription or membership to online car data for engines or body work? Looks like Chilton's (chiltonsdiy.com) might be $29.95 a year. If so, not a bad deal. Thanks for the video.
It is the Chilton's Library Online. Check with your local library and see if they have it. You can sign in and use it as much as you want if you're a library member. If they don't have it, ask them to get it. It's way less expensive for them than buying all of the Chilton's books and Hyanes manuals for the reference section, and it is s huge benefit to the community.
I think it went pretty smoothly and I am glad my Chinese e-Bay part say Premium High Quality on the box. Let me know what you think and don't forger to give a thumbs up or thumbs down!
Seeing you do it and noting stuff about replacement order and where the chain should be, etc. will save somebody's bacon in the future. Could be mine. Thanks.
Hopefully it will help someone, but they only used this engine through 02 or 03, so they are probably going to the crusher and onto the great parking lot in the sky by the hundreds every day now.
I think a lot of what you showed and said can be applied to other engines and why the video is so helpful. Things like checking how many links on the chain between the cam gears; putting a rod (drill bit, screwdriver, etc) in the gear so you don't move it accidentally ; checking for stretch in the chain; order of disassembly and being careful to reassemble the same way, locktite and conversion table to GM specs; using an online Chilton's guide to get instructions and specs; the little plunger thing on the tensioner (I never would have thought of that). So, I think it has been a great video series. When you start it up, you could edit in the sound of a 1000 HP engine just to mess with folks. :)
Great video Tom
Thanks. You going to have to come over and work on it with me one of these days and I will make you a youtube star again!
Getting ready put my timing chain set in see that cures my quad 4 problem
Great job!
You got 'er done
Good video
Thanks
I may have put that old "good" chain back on rather then the new chinesium one. It was probably built better. HAHA! JK! Nice work Tom. can't wait to hear it run!
I seriously considered it.
Hi Tom, nice video, recently I bought a 2001 sunfire, and I am in the middle of repairing the overhead cam due to high temp. My question is we’re did you find this internet document shown in the video?
Thanks
That is from Chilton's Online. I get it for free through my Library. Most libraries have something similar.
How do you remove the belt tensioner bracket only.
Wow,what a great video!Tom,i really appreciate your effort.I have an Olds Alero in europe,same 2.4 LD9.Stumbled upon your video while searching for erratic idle possible causes,which my car sadly developed.If anything else fails,can i contact you for help maybe?
Sure. This one turned out not to be the timing chain. I had a cracked ring on cylinder 3. I rebuilt the engine. A common problem on these that causes rough idle though is the vacuum line going to the MAP sensor rots out.
@@frugalprepper Thanks for the fast reply my friend.I'll check it out.
Tom my 2.4 Alero started making ticking noise from motor for couple seconds on start up I think it might be timing chain or tensoiner what do you think put water pump on same engine year half go plus new tensioner
Engines only has 88000 miles
With the mileage a Timing chain and tensioners are probably a good idea anyway, but I would be suspicious of a bad lifter. These engines are known for having some of these types of issues on the top end. I would try adding Rislone with your next oil change and see if it clears up. I don't recommend most additives, if you have a sticky/dirty lifter Rislone is something I have had success with to keep from having to tear it down.
G'day Tom,
Yay Team !
It begins to appear that "Ah, Pontiac problems..., eh (?) ; probably a stretched Timing-Chain...!", may be some kind of Commercial Mechanic's Urban Myth, perhaps often quoted to both casual Enquirers and prospective Customers, in the sure knowledge that in Labour as well as Swearing-Hours it's easier and cheaper to swap the sick Donkey for an Exchange-Engine than to actually replace the Chain with the Engine remaining in place...(?).
That way they divert Backyard Mechanics off down a complicated and difficult Knuckle-Barking Dry-Gulch which they'll probably make a mess of, and the Customers will happily buy the (now repaired) last Engine which they pulled out of the previous "Mark" whom they skinned on the trot (!).
Have a good one,
;-p
Ciao !
Buenas tardes sr Tom,deseo esté bien.
Una pregunta,que aceite debo echarle al motor del Cavalier z24- 2.4,año 2000.ya que se rectificó,cámara,cigüeñal y se encamiso el bloque?De antemano gracias.
Le escribe,Charles Sanchez desde Maracay-Venezuela.
Dios lo bendiga.
Utilicé un 5W30 convencional.
Sorry How did you get the manual? I’m learning and I don’t know how to get them
do i need to do this in order to replace my vaule cover gaskets? See,s like alot of work.
It doesn't have valve covers. I has cam towers. They are a bit of a job to do. I charge $500 labor to do one. To do them you have to take off the outer timing cover, timing chain, inner timing cover, exhaust manifold, and take off the 3 bolts for water pump. Rotate engine 90 degrees when timing chain is off, before you take of the cam sprockets. Make sure you put a towel in the bottom of timing cover when you get the inner off so you don't drop bolt in the oil pan. If you drop a bolt then you have to remove oil pan. Use Indian head gasket sealant on the new cam tower gaskets, and the white permatex gasket sealant on all of the bolts. If you don't it will leak when you are done. I recently tore this down and did mine again. 3 days of work by the time is was done. th-cam.com/video/knpkbxOV90s/w-d-xo.html
rhetorical question, why would you design an interference head for an Engine? BTW good video
Better Compression which equals Better Performance, Higher Efficiency and Fuel Mileage. Better Question though is why design an interference engine with a rubber timing belt instead of a metal chain. I liked my German 2.8 V6 that I had in my Mustang. It was interference (and the Isky Cam and 80 thousanths shaved of the heads made it seriously interfenced), but it had a steel gear to gear timing, with solid lifters. I also loved the offset head and the bottom end was built like a tank. I could wrap that thing up 10,000 RPM's before it would float the valves out of it. The cam's power range was 5K to 8.5K RPM.
I have to replace my water pump and I was wondering is there anything else I would have to take off to take it out from this point?
Yes you will need to pull the exhaust manifold off to get to the water pump. Some pull the whole inner timing cover which involve removing the cam sprockets and a bunch more gaskets. It's it tight but you can get the water pump done without removing the inner timing cover.
FrugalPrepper's Garage & Garden Ok so if I understand correctly I take off everything you did in these videos plus the exhaust manifold? Also could you give me a list of tools I need it would be very appreciated?
@@frugalprepper i did get the water pump out and in without taking the exhaust mani off, WARNING: lots of patience required
@@christopherkinner4341 how did you do it if you don’t mind sharing despite you commented 2 years ago
where is the pcv valve in 2.4 l twin pontiac engine 1997 please help me I do not find it many gacias
It doesn't have one.
THANK YOU THEN NO LONGER SEEK IT THE LOCALISE WAS MY POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO A LEAK OIL THAT I HAVE AND ALREADY CHANGED THE ENGINE BOARD THANK YOU WERE BAD REPAIR ESNTOSES THIS MOTOR DOES NOT HAVE VALVE PCV
Can you change the waterpump housing without changing the waterpump?
Not sure what you mean by the housing. There is a pipe that comes off of the water pump and there is a housing there, and goes to the thermostat. You can get to that if you pull the exhaust manifold. To change the water pump you will have to pull the timing chain and the exhaust manifold though. You can get a better idea how the water pump is setup on my video here where I rebuilt this engine: th-cam.com/video/Hbl4FULhS78/w-d-xo.html
@@frugalprepper the back side of the waterpump that holds the waterpump & the thermostat
how holding engine
With a Jack
Hey Tom. Thanks for the video. I'm not familiar with online resources for engines that you show. Can you give a little background, or do a video on getting a subscription or membership to online car data for engines or body work? Looks like Chilton's (chiltonsdiy.com) might be $29.95 a year. If so, not a bad deal. Thanks for the video.
It is the Chilton's Library Online. Check with your local library and see if they have it. You can sign in and use it as much as you want if you're a library member. If they don't have it, ask them to get it. It's way less expensive for them than buying all of the Chilton's books and Hyanes manuals for the reference section, and it is s huge benefit to the community.
OK thanks!
Website with step by step instructions?
I used Chilton's Online though my local library.
@frugalprepper Awesome thanks. I have to do the timing system in '99 Cavalier Z24. Been trying to find manufacturers repair guide.