So it turns out that Jenelle's parents, who have been constantly monitoring her social media posts and are well aware of how their daughter communicates, could not make the connection in their minds that "Chris" was actually Jenelle. Absolutely stunning stupidity.
That's exactly what I thought. Especially when it was mentioned that Jenelle had a own, unique style of writing. I mean, you would have thought the parents would pick up the spelling and grammar mistakes? Surely? Either "Chris" was super manipulative or her parents incredibly stupid. I suspect a bit of both.
No, the parents knew this ruse was exactly that, an aliby, an excuse. To blame this mysterious CIA person, they knew all along who it was and " went along" with it because it was the plan from the start.
Aaron, yeah that's exactly what I came to realize just a minute ago and I replied to comment saying the same thing. That they knew she was Chris and thought he would be their "get out of jail free" card. Someone should have told them that life is not a Monopoly game.
Barbara is a clear example of the all devouring mother. Her overbearing protection of her daughter ended up creating a socially maladapted monster. The hardest part of being a mother is to be willing to progressively give up their child to the world, knowing full well that the world is a dangerous place and may well destroy them. If a mother fails to do so, she will selfishly ruin her child, rendering them completely unable to cope with the world.
Agree, but some aspects of the daughter’s behavior suggest to me she might have had difficulty even if she had better parents. Like her insisting that the couple was out too her due to her being “too pretty” or the grammar/spelling/learning issues.
I had a mother that was only concerned when she realized that her children were gaining a backbone. She never cared about anything we were doing as long as we were in the house while we were doing it. I ran from her house not long after graduating from high school. It was maddening for her that she wasn't able to control me or ask me what I was doing or where I was going. To this day, my mother still financially supports my oldest sibling, even though she can't afford it and has literally ruined herself financially doing it, if only to have control over one of her children.
I have heard this story several times now... Never in this much detail!! For example, I had no idea just how strict Jenelle's parents were, and the main thing I learnt, was the fact that this occurred over several years, this has not been portrayed in other videos I have watched. It makes the murder that much more sinister and is an important detail to the case. Thank you for going the extra mile to ensure the story is told correctly and in full!
I've heard one YTer say when they were found the baby was actively breastfeeding. For some reason the YTer said they were shot sitting on the couch. They didn't see it coming. This is the first time I heard there was a struggle. @wowsers I'd love an example. I've yet to hear any made up details on this channel. Seems like you're just making s- up
My 23 y/o stays with me still. (Learning disabilities, just taking her a bit longer to get out on her own). I'm Always telling her she's responsible for making her decisions, I'm here if she needs me. But she's an adult and responsible for herself.
@@tiffanynot-amused9077 She seems like she was special needs and might had to go to group home. She seems FAS-case to me. I knew one girl like her and her father let her move out only for her to end up in group home because she did not do dishes and clean or feed the kitten she got. Neighbors complained about the odd smell and she was taken away.
@@GradKat Janelle isn't ugly but not pretty at all to me. She does have a weird look in her eyes. The innocent mother who was murdered now she was very pretty.
@@GradKat I've never seen yellower teeth in my life. I don't know if you're trying to prove some kind of "all women are beautiful" point, but she aint pretty
@@tjls123 They weren't just strict, they were flat out abusive. Frankly, I'm not sorry for what happened to them. With the way they treated Janelle, I'm not surprised things ended this way.
@@WobblesandBean I bet Janelle knows right from wrong… Not sure what to think about her parents. Stupid is a good start She knew what she was doing. She planned it over an extended periods of time. Fake accounts. A boyfriend right under her parents nose!!! She’s not mentally challenged. She is a monster!!
Janelle was highly manipulative. Not that she's such a great story teller but man, she knows her audience. What a terrifying person !!! Her parents, boyfriend are seriously messed up too. (Not very bright either)
I recall seeing a snippet of the dad's interrogation, where they broke the news to him that his psycho daughter was behind everything and that the Billies he murdered were absolutely innocent. He started sobbing, and I wonder how all 3 accomplices cope in prison day after day after day, knowing they killed innocent people and left a baby in a pool of blood w dead parents. I also wonder how the friend feels, knowing she invited this psycho into her life in the first place.
Was thinking the same thing. But, that's all she knows. What will be truly bad for her is once her mother is no longer there, she won't be equipt to fight her own battles. That's when she's gonna have difficulties. As she deserves.
I lost an entire group of friends over unfriending a mutual friend on facebook. I didn't even really know her that well but in her mind, I was a "fake sociopath" that she "did everything for" that "discarded her" and faked being suicidal to pit mutual friends against me. I'm talking about college graduates in their mid 30's too not teens. I left facebook a week or two into COVID.
Doesn't it seem to be getting worse? I mean that's actually pretty crazy, but now it's perfectly "normal". Now, with everything going on and everything in peoples faces it isn't surprising anymore. Especially be careful if you're a man...feminists have nothing to fight for anymore so they go after men. I don't care who disagrees. I see it and have seen women do terrible things to the men in their lives. Oh, unless you're LGBTQ because then a man deciding to be a woman doesn't count, even if they're not on hormones. Make it make sense. Smh.
Good on you! FB is an incredibly shallow and pointless experience overall. I did something similar around the same time and dropped everyone except my parents (because of backup due to now living on different continents). Never understood friending people you were never close to years ago or for the sake of "yay same schools lol".
This really is a cautionary tale for both overprotective parents and adult children who depend on their parents way too much. Also, don't get addicted to social media.
Except TONS of people have over protective parents, and TONS of “failure to launch” adult kids living at home…..and only 1 as evil as Jenelle and her family. Parenting did not create Jenelle, though they contributed some… she was just that way, and caught red-handed, Jenelle still denies everything she did.
Janelle created all those bullying messages and blamed Billy Jean who literally had nothing to do with it and was just living her own life. Because of Janelle actions she caused life long friends to break up, the death of two innocent young parents, a child to grow up without his parents. Now that's an evil women.
Don't forget that she also split up a family (Jaimie is Billy's cousin) but also the ripple effect this had to Chris - the real one who is a living breathing police officer.
I'm glad too. It shows that the father believed Chris. I hope the child has a life without trauma or remembering the trauma. Hopefully, he was too young to remember.
Her life was a crappy fanfiction in her own head. She was so "beautiful" that jealousy poisoned every woman near her, and so "special" that even the CIA took interest in her Facebook drama and everyone world do anything to "protect" her 🙄
This is what I was thinking, I've read a couple fan fiction that are just like what Janelle made up. They are so horrible and stupid it would only make sense if a child wrote it 😂 to think some dumb 30 year old was tryna live this demented fantasy. Also did she think Billy would magically leave Billy Jean?? How was she gonna lie about him being in love with her ...was he supposed to just go along with it????? Why did she think that'd work 😂😂😂
@Courtney Tally I broke straight down at that at the end, too shocked at the bloodsoaked beginnings to do so, but I hope with every fiber I possess that these cretins will rot out in the most miserable hellish ways possible for how they destroyed those innocent lives & ruined that baby's entire existence, the hell of which knowing how it happened right there around him - the confusing frightening sounds & smells of which, leaving him bereft of the love by which he was born & so ghastly soon was ended, should have put ALL those damn things in the GDMF chair. May he grow & live beyond those ugliest of beginnings to be able to know & give that love which was taken from him, that even so will be with him always. 😿🙌
The older daughter had nothing to do with it she was no where near her family at the time the murder occurred, and if she was I doubt she would've gone along with their plans, and would've called the police.
Social media is a psychological cesspool. If you find yourself editing your life, getting emotional over high-school-level stuff, or have issues with depression, get off social media. It was the best thing I ever did for my mental health
I went to high school with Janelle.. she graduated a year or two before me.. I can attest that there probably were some issues upstairs.. love your videos and pod casts.. awesome job covering the story! Weird hearing a crime story from your hometown.. this was all over the news since Kennett Square was a small knit community..
Really? It's always fascinating to hear about someone who actually knew a murderer. I knew one as well many years back. She was in a regular school? Would you have thought that she would do something like this?
Great coverage of this awful story. Anyone else find his voice super soothing? I could listen to you read a receipt. Thanks for all your hard work on these stories!
Her immediate haircut after befriending tracy is giving off serious "Single White Female" vibes! Thank you for another fantastic story! p.s. just FYI that is a movie!! 😉🙂
I can imagine how you'd be thanking him if he said something about "single black female" vibes, but youre right, its perfectly ok to judge and stereotypewhite people
I fall asleep to Stephanie Harlowe's channel... her videos are lengthy and usually multi-part (up to 2 hrs long per episode). I've lost count of the number of times I've had bizarre elements in my dreams only to realise they were part of the crime stories she shared lol
Overprotective parents do far more harm than good. Their children will never be self sufficient, even after their passing. I can only hope that those type of parents listen to this tragic story and learn from it. I know a guy who's 38, has never lived on his own. Runs to his mother to fight his battles. Any small thing, he calls his mom and SHE WILL COME. HE IS 38!!!!!!!! That's a disgrace.......
I love your podcast, always brightens my days even when they’re gruesome like this . I can concentrate on something else then stressful life and I’m very thankful for your work :) Love
I had parents similar to Janelles and I’m just very thankful I was able to get away asap. Doesnt excuse her or her actions, yet parents like that wear you down and know all your buttons.
I will never understand parents like them. Jenelle didn't have a chance to lead a normal life with all it's ups and downs. She may have turned out differently if she had had the confidence to escape their overbearing clutches like her sisters did. What she did was horrendous. She obviously worked on her parents over time, to manipulate them the way she did. Her boyfriend was a puppet too. Pretty messed up the lot of them.😔
These videos are truly amazing. They are horrifying and tragic yet I’m addicted to watching. It’s great. These people stories are being told please continue to make more. I’m a huge fan you’re doing a great job.💛💛💛
I've also heard this story a few times... But you went into so much detail that I thought it was a different case ENTIRELY! Great detail! Love your channel :)
I will walk around doing something and explaining a tedious task to the missus and finish it with “This is monsters” 😂 Love your channel and I listen to it to go to sleep (that’s a compliment BTW)
Yet again, perfect timing for people who can't sleep. I woke up in a hot sweat from bad lucid nightmares and these always help me realize they are *just* bad dreams
Two things: 1 Buddy committed stolen valor. This element really adds to the machismo of needing to “protect his daughter” by murdering young adults and “take orders” from a fake CIA agent. 2 She was “cyberbullying” herself, and if you read the insults she directed at herself, it’s obvious. It comes across as, “She’s so awful for being a beautiful and kind virgin!!”
I always rewatch cases here with you because you do the deepest dives into these cases. This is the best true crime channel for all the facts....and that shade you throw cracks me up 😂
I remember this story but Jiles always seems to fill in the parts that usually are missed. Plus, I'm pretty sure most will agree he's a much better narrator. In my opinion, Janelle was a pretty manipulative individual and much smarter than what her parents gave her credit for.
I always look forward to your take on cases like this, ones that I had heard about previously. You always add such good info and details - thank you. 😊
I feel so bad for Tracy. She was just being friendly to a woman who wasn’t really allowed to have friends. Now, her brother and his beloved girlfriend are dead. Her nephew was orphaned before he could form any memories of his parents. And all because a miserable, jealous woman had to make everyone else miserable. Obviously, Tracy’s not to blame for any of this, but I can’t even imagine the guilt she probably feels about it.
Jenelle wasn't that silly. She was cunning and calculating and lied to her parents and ran rings around them. She could have left home years before and lived her own life.
@@capricornqueen3139 Because she used her parents as much as they use her. They were financially supporting her and supplying all her physical needs and she played on her disabilities and played dumber than she was so she never had to work or worry about money.
Love your channel and so happy for this appearing this morning had a accident yesterday so am stuck on the sofa binging on true crime. Your voice is so calm and comforting making horrible crimes more palatable.
I remember when this story first began making the true crime rounds and documentaries. As a criminal psychologist I found it amazingly fascinating but NOT surprising in the least. She was SO "underrated", as many with health or mental issues compounded by a protection wall from a young age are. She was meticulously intelligent, with both a strategic and complex set of mental tools. The level of complexity it took to come up with AND execute this manipulative plot is a gobsmack to many. But so many people do not realize that the the words "Learning disability" has LITTLE to do with "Intelligence". They tend to equate that phrase with "Slow" or "Mental retardation" of some kind, when all it actually means is that they do not well and have difficulty in the "Usual" or "Typical" learning environments society thinks of and that most of us thrive in or handle well. "Learning disability" does NOT mean a lack of, or "less than usual" or even "stunted" in most cases where actual intelligence and complex thought are concerned. Add to that some level of sociopathy and you've got SERIOUS trouble. MAINLY because of what I've said above, no one knows just how intelligent you really are and you learn to play off that misconception very early and use it to whatever advantages you'd like as time goes by. The fact she could think of this and pull this off and the consequences and harm done, is no surprise to those in most of the mental health fields. "Slow" is a whole different ball game, and THOSE people are actually FAR less capable or prone to committing such acts than "Normal" or "highly intelligent" people. Janelle's "Learning disability" had ZERO to do with her intelligence, which to be honest, was probably more complex and strategic than most reading this thread.
What a egotistically patronising comment to post; "... was probably more complex and strategic than most reading this thread...." of course people reading this thread couldn't be as clever as you or even - cleverer could they? That is an assumption & statement worthy of Janelle herself! LOL
@@deasvail99 Unlike your nearly blank troll account, mine is live, face to face, and full of content proving who, what and even where I am. Why don't you hit the record button and prove who you are to back up that mouth..lmao
I’m awake because I’m about to have back surgery at 6am and I can’t sleep cuz I’m super nervous! But it’s nice to have a Monsters upload to take my mind off of it! Thanks, guys!
I seriously can’t believe how someone can be so manipulative and yet, so unintelligent… it’s rare to be this much of a master manipulator and as intellectually stunted as she was… What’s even more surprising is the fact that the people closest to Janelle were also so unintelligent and naïve as well!
I’m 7 minutes into this episode and it makes me think of my little brother, who’s in a wheelchair. My parents have completely sheltered him from the outside world. Kid has no idea what life is like..he’s not a monster though lol he’s a genuine soul. 😢
I can't even comment on this case. It's pathetic and sad, and to comment on any person involved would just be a waste of my breath. I hope Janelle spends the rest of her life wrapping her "eight to nine year old mind" around her "childlike mistakes". Ugh
I knew a girl in HS like Janelle. Except she was VERY smart. Her parents were so overbearing to the point that the mom had a baby and forced my friend to babysit while the mom recuperated. Her parents event crashed the prom. We were going as a group (all girls) so they would let her come. They danced while my friend was forced to sit at the table because she wasn't allowed to dance with no one, not even as a group. We a felt so bad for her.
@@fikent5252 And are you a stupid troll incapable of basic reading comprehension? Let me dumb it down for you. A teenage girl who had controlling, overbearing, helicopter parents that NEVER allowed their only child (until they had another baby so add PARENTIFIED) any privacy or freedom of any kind. It was a miracle that they still "allowed" her to come to public school her senior year of high school. Janelle was in the samish position as my high school friend.
@@tashibalampkin8555 I hope she did. None of us ever heard from her after graduation in '98. We tried calling until the phone was eventually disconnected. 2 yrs after I saw her driving out of the parking lot of our local mall. She was by herself so who knows. Tried finding her on Myspace without luck.
My mother was manipulative/controlling like Jenelles' mother. Out of 3 children...I'm the only one that left home @ 13 years old & never looked back. my siblings & I are in our 50's now & my brother & sister STILL live @ our parents house to this day with my mom. But @ least my mother now sees the errors of her ways & is totally proud of me for having the ovaries to live my life on my terms.
@@laetitialogan2002 Cant answer yet. The cult she joined only allows internet once a year...( After the yearly private visit from the cult leader AKA ''DaddyO'' )
Wtf are you talking about? Your mom was telling you what to do until you were 13yo so she was manipulative?? Thats what parents suppose to do! And for a damn good reason. In 99,9% of cases a 12 year old's head is full of c**p as far as responsible behaviour goes. Your statement and the 22 likes you've got, scares the c**p out of me. How many of your kind are out there? What exactly are you saying? That a 13 year old who read's the comments and doesnt like his parents to tell him what to do, should run away from his/her's home? So that means... everybody! And you are 50 yo? Shame on you! WTF is wrong with you ppl?
Thanks for adding so much info about Janelle. I've heard the story before, but not from that angle. So sad people get so wrapped up in imaginary drama they make it reality. Also, if someone claims to be from the CIA, their grammar and punctuation better be on point. Js
Always excellent storytelling.. thank you.. I’ve heard this story several times, but you made it interesting again and had more cohesive information.. Appreciate the hard work Jiles!
"She told me her name was Billie Jean, as she caused a scene Then every head turned with eyes that dreamed of being the one Who will dance on the floor in the round People always told me be careful of what you do And don't go around breaking young girls' hearts And mother always told me be careful of who you love And be careful of what you do 'cause the lie becomes the truth" -”Billy Jean," Michael Jackson
It frustrates me how some people can blindly support other people instead of thinking "hey, maybe everything they say isn't %100 genuine or true?" It's really a shame that so much got manipulated and made up. It ruined and stole people's life's. Out of pure spite and petty emotions...
These aren't regular people. I've heard this story before and I'm pretty sure even her boyfriend had developmental issues. That doesn't stop you from being prosecuted for a crime though.
I feel like this particular thing has become ever more of a problem thanks to social media and the rise of the influencer. People will blindly believe everything out of their favorite creators or models mouth and watching them command millions of people who follow them to send hate or do nothing to stop hate on the internet is pretty terrifying.
@@internetperson9121 yup, I can definitely see why the whole town thought she was too pretty. Oh wait, I forgot, only person who thought that was herself.
I think that Janelle felt entitled to people's affection, especially Billy's, because her parents always gave her their entire attention and love even though it was a dysfunctional toxic situation. When I heard that she had a crush on "Chris" that probably wasn't reciprocated, a little red flag popped up. Even in her thirties, she still thought of him and had the gall to pretend he was someone who loved her so much that he would tell her boyfriend and parents that Janelle had to be protected at any cost. Can you imagine the effect this had on his life? He is now a police officer, probably married, and a woman from high school is claiming that he is a CIA agent wanting Janelle to be protected at any cost. I really think that besides getting revenge on Billy for not leaving BIllie Jean and the poor baby Tyler to adore her that she also wanted to get out from under the thumb of her parents and be with her boyfriend. Maybe that figured into it somehow also.
This case actually literally made me puke in my throat, 🤮what they did was so inconceivable, and Janelle wasn’t as slow or dim witted as they thought, All of them were pure evil, all of them were monsters🤬, Great upload, quite a few facts that I’ve never heard before,👍🏻👍🏻and I heard of this when it happened, Good health and happiness to you and yours✌🏻💕
Her father. The marine/cia agent. Okay, I spent 20 years in the service. I just retired going on two years ago. Number one, he looks like the type of guy who worked some government job and got a government ID and told everyone he was in the CIA. The CIA will not accept someone solely off being a veteran. You do need some type of formal education and diploma. Second he has the look of other military retirees who still act like they're in the military they wear their rank on their hat, it's all they talk about now granted I talk about the military a lot but it was 20 years of my life I realized that it holds no weight over other people now that I'm out. I'm a former E5. I am no longer in the military. He just looks like the type of guy who thrived in the military, the military was his life, and he's going to carry it with him wherever he goes. It's not a fun type of guy to be around. I don't wear grunt style I don't wear nine line apparel. I have a beard I grew my hair out. I am no longer in the military nor do I believe or act like I am. one look at her dad's picture and I could tell you exactly what type of man he is. I'll tell you why because I've met him a thousand times and they all look alike.
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So it turns out that Jenelle's parents, who have been constantly monitoring her social media posts and are well aware of how their daughter communicates, could not make the connection in their minds that "Chris" was actually Jenelle. Absolutely stunning stupidity.
That's exactly what I thought. Especially when it was mentioned that Jenelle had a own, unique style of writing. I mean, you would have thought the parents would pick up the spelling and grammar mistakes? Surely? Either "Chris" was super manipulative or her parents incredibly stupid. I suspect a bit of both.
No, the parents knew this ruse was exactly that, an aliby, an excuse. To blame this mysterious CIA person, they knew all along who it was and " went along" with it because it was the plan from the start.
Yeah I’d have to agree, it was so obvious they knew deep down and encouraged it by pretending not to. 🤣
Aaron, yeah that's exactly what I came to realize just a minute ago and I replied to comment saying the same thing. That they knew she was Chris and thought he would be their "get out of jail free" card. Someone should have told them that life is not a Monopoly game.
Morons. The whole family.
Barbara is a clear example of the all devouring mother. Her overbearing protection of her daughter ended up creating a socially maladapted monster. The hardest part of being a mother is to be willing to progressively give up their child to the world, knowing full well that the world is a dangerous place and may well destroy them. If a mother fails to do so, she will selfishly ruin her child, rendering them completely unable to cope with the world.
So well put. Agree 💯%.
Very well said and 💯 accurate
Agree, but some aspects of the daughter’s behavior suggest to me she might have had difficulty even if she had better parents. Like her insisting that the couple was out too her due to her being “too pretty” or the grammar/spelling/learning issues.
I had a mother that was only concerned when she realized that her children were gaining a backbone. She never cared about anything we were doing as long as we were in the house while we were doing it. I ran from her house not long after graduating from high school. It was maddening for her that she wasn't able to control me or ask me what I was doing or where I was going. To this day, my mother still financially supports my oldest sibling, even though she can't afford it and has literally ruined herself financially doing it, if only to have control over one of her children.
How did you meet my mother?
I have heard this story several times now... Never in this much detail!! For example, I had no idea just how strict Jenelle's parents were, and the main thing I learnt, was the fact that this occurred over several years, this has not been portrayed in other videos I have watched. It makes the murder that much more sinister and is an important detail to the case. Thank you for going the extra mile to ensure the story is told correctly and in full!
Thats cuz this dude just makes up random smll details in his stories, its weird if u ask me.
@@tjls123 ? How do you know that?
@@tjls123 Citation please, buddy
@@tjls123 Not really...
I've heard one YTer say when they were found the baby was actively breastfeeding. For some reason the YTer said they were shot sitting on the couch. They didn't see it coming. This is the first time I heard there was a struggle.
@wowsers I'd love an example. I've yet to hear any made up details on this channel. Seems like you're just making s- up
You know a video is fucked up when TH-cam asks "you sure you wanna watch this bro?"
Right, I've watched worse stuff without a warning message 😂😂😂
Being in your 30s and your parents made decisions and even moderate your own social media??? This should be considered a form of abuse
She didn't Have to be there, we're talking about a manipulative 32 year old woman. She CHOSE to stick around.
@@tiffanynot-amused9077 Porsche didn't knew better
My 23 y/o stays with me still. (Learning disabilities, just taking her a bit longer to get out on her own). I'm Always telling her she's responsible for making her decisions, I'm here if she needs me. But she's an adult and responsible for herself.
@Sky L I’m sorry :( I’m glad you got out of that awful situation though!
@@tiffanynot-amused9077 She seems like she was special needs and might had to go to group home. She seems FAS-case to me. I knew one girl like her and her father let her move out only for her to end up in group home because she did not do dishes and clean or feed the kitten she got. Neighbors complained about the odd smell and she was taken away.
Jenelle stated the others hated her because she "too pretty." Not her strongest argument.
It’s a ridiculous argument, true, but she IS very pretty.
@@GradKat maybe she is but I can't see it past her flat, dead eyes and her show of teeth, instead of smile
You can't be serious!!
@@GradKat Janelle isn't ugly but not pretty at all to me. She does have a weird look in her eyes. The innocent mother who was murdered now she was very pretty.
@@GradKat I've never seen yellower teeth in my life. I don't know if you're trying to prove some kind of "all women are beautiful" point, but she aint pretty
Her parents weren't strict with her, they were simply abusive.
How does being abusive negate the fact that they were strict?
@@tjls123 hey I think you misplaced this somewhere. It's the point.
@@tjls123 They weren't just strict, they were flat out abusive. Frankly, I'm not sorry for what happened to them. With the way they treated Janelle, I'm not surprised things ended this way.
@@WobblesandBean I bet Janelle knows right from wrong…
Not sure what to think about her parents. Stupid is a good start
She knew what she was doing. She planned it over an extended periods of time. Fake accounts. A boyfriend right under her parents nose!!! She’s not mentally challenged. She is a monster!!
Exactly. They’re the true monsters in this case
Thank you for being more respectful than someone else who covered this case. It's different watching these when you knew the people who died.
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Janelle was highly manipulative. Not that she's such a great story teller but man, she knows her audience. What a terrifying person !!! Her parents, boyfriend are seriously messed up too. (Not very bright either)
I recall seeing a snippet of the dad's interrogation, where they broke the news to him that his psycho daughter was behind everything and that the Billies he murdered were absolutely innocent. He started sobbing, and I wonder how all 3 accomplices cope in prison day after day after day, knowing they killed innocent people and left a baby in a pool of blood w dead parents. I also wonder how the friend feels, knowing she invited this psycho into her life in the first place.
Very strange people too.
I've seen some footage of Jenelle's parents, and it's pretty obvious that she inherited her learning difficulties from both of them.
@@lonalxaia definitely!
@watchmejumpstart absolutely!
Imagine being stuck with an overprotective mother in prison for the rest of your life.
Ok. Now what?
😂😂😂
She has the power to be transferred to a different unit.
Was thinking the same thing. But, that's all she knows. What will be truly bad for her is once her mother is no longer there, she won't be equipt to fight her own battles. That's when she's gonna have difficulties. As she deserves.
I'd be more worried if I was her mother.... Women behind bars may take up for Janelle and protect her from her mother.
I lost an entire group of friends over unfriending a mutual friend on facebook. I didn't even really know her that well but in her mind, I was a "fake sociopath" that she "did everything for" that "discarded her" and faked being suicidal to pit mutual friends against me. I'm talking about college graduates in their mid 30's too not teens. I left facebook a week or two into COVID.
Best thing you could ever do, never go back.! Go enjoy your life
Doesn't it seem to be getting worse? I mean that's actually pretty crazy, but now it's perfectly "normal". Now, with everything going on and everything in peoples faces it isn't surprising anymore. Especially be careful if you're a man...feminists have nothing to fight for anymore so they go after men. I don't care who disagrees. I see it and have seen women do terrible things to the men in their lives. Oh, unless you're LGBTQ because then a man deciding to be a woman doesn't count, even if they're not on hormones. Make it make sense. Smh.
Facebook is not the snswer
Good on you! FB is an incredibly shallow and pointless experience overall. I did something similar around the same time and dropped everyone except my parents (because of backup due to now living on different continents). Never understood friending people you were never close to years ago or for the sake of "yay same schools lol".
There are millions of free thinking, informed people you could have turned to. Sounds like you're not a good judge of character.
This taught me that people are even MORE stupid than I thought.
This really is a cautionary tale for both overprotective parents and adult children who depend on their parents way too much. Also, don't get addicted to social media.
Except TONS of people have over protective parents, and TONS of “failure to launch” adult kids living at home…..and only 1 as evil as Jenelle and her family.
Parenting did not create Jenelle, though they contributed some… she was just that way, and caught red-handed, Jenelle still denies everything she did.
Janelle created all those bullying messages and blamed Billy Jean who literally had nothing to do with it and was just living her own life. Because of Janelle actions she caused life long friends to break up, the death of two innocent young parents, a child to grow up without his parents. Now that's an evil women.
Don't forget that she also split up a family (Jaimie is Billy's cousin) but also the ripple effect this had to Chris - the real one who is a living breathing police officer.
As shocking and appalling as this crime is, I'm thankful that they at least decided to spare the baby.
Pretty much the only thing anyone can be thankful for.
INDEED 💯!
You admirably hit on the Most Pertinent Point in this Maddening and Sick Saga.
Well Said!
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I'm glad too. It shows that the father believed Chris. I hope the child has a life without trauma or remembering the trauma. Hopefully, he was too young to remember.
7 months old. You remember anything from your first 2 years of life?
@@chadcuckproducer1037 I can't find a memory until about 4 to 6 years old. The problem will be what's on social media.
Her life was a crappy fanfiction in her own head. She was so "beautiful" that jealousy poisoned every woman near her, and so "special" that even the CIA took interest in her Facebook drama and everyone world do anything to "protect" her 🙄
This is what I was thinking, I've read a couple fan fiction that are just like what Janelle made up. They are so horrible and stupid it would only make sense if a child wrote it 😂 to think some dumb 30 year old was tryna live this demented fantasy.
Also did she think Billy would magically leave Billy Jean?? How was she gonna lie about him being in love with her ...was he supposed to just go along with it????? Why did she think that'd work 😂😂😂
@@postmelon4073 😂😂😂
And her best friends were stuffed animals and dolls.
This whole family is absolutely disgusting!!!
My heart goes out to that sweet baby who will never know his parents 💔
Nope. Not the sister. She knew what was up. I'm glad she got out when she did.
@Courtney Tally I broke straight down at that at the end, too shocked at the bloodsoaked beginnings to do so, but I hope with every fiber I possess that these cretins will rot out in the most miserable hellish ways possible for how they destroyed those innocent lives & ruined that baby's entire existence, the hell of which knowing how it happened right there around him - the confusing frightening sounds & smells of which, leaving him bereft of the love by which he was born & so ghastly soon was ended, should have put ALL those damn things in the GDMF chair. May he grow & live beyond those ugliest of beginnings to be able to know & give that love which was taken from him, that even so will be with him always. 😿🙌
Yo leave the sister out of this
The older daughter had nothing to do with it she was no where near her family at the time the murder occurred, and if she was I doubt she would've gone along with their plans, and would've called the police.
Social media is a psychological cesspool. If you find yourself editing your life, getting emotional over high-school-level stuff, or have issues with depression, get off social media. It was the best thing I ever did for my mental health
I left that nonsense behind me a few years ago too.
I have to tell more people this than I should have to. If you feel like you are being bullied or it is stressing you out, GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA
Except for TH-cam lol
But of course!!@@treaisland
I left Facebook years ago, too. I haven’t had a single regret.
I went to high school with Janelle.. she graduated a year or two before me.. I can attest that there probably were some issues upstairs.. love your videos and pod casts.. awesome job covering the story! Weird hearing a crime story from your hometown.. this was all over the news since Kennett Square was a small knit community..
Really? It's always fascinating to hear about someone who actually knew a murderer. I knew one as well many years back. She was in a regular school? Would you have thought that she would do something like this?
I grew up in Milligan went to HVHS met alot of people who knew Billy and Billie Jean Never heard a bad thing about them
I thought Janelle was home schooled????
Great coverage of this awful story. Anyone else find his voice super soothing? I could listen to you read a receipt. Thanks for all your hard work on these stories!
Ya
She said the reason they bullied her was because they were jealous of her looks…so believable
Are you suggesting this isn’t the case 😮
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Y’all are funny 😂😂
Yeah. And she isn’t even that pretty.
I have to keep reminding myself that everyone in this story is an adult.
I just love your voice, and your stories, and the way you tell them. Always look forward to your videos
Is your name a reference to Dana White :)
@@whoisdickieschnabel who’s Dana white?
@@whoisdickieschnabel lol apparently not
I've been there since the first time upload he's he ever did and it's way different now wow
No matter the story or how many times its been covered…I’m tuning in to This Is Monsters
This is slowly becoming my favourite channel on TH-cam. The work this guy puts into these stories is remarkable. Thank you Mr. Monsters.
If only Janelle had spent as much time brushing her teeth as she did on Facebook... 🙄
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Jesus Christ. EMOTIONAL DAMAGEEEE. 😂
Crest strips are your friend Janelle!
LMAO!!!!
Her immediate haircut after befriending tracy is giving off serious "Single White Female" vibes! Thank you for another fantastic story!
p.s. just FYI that is a movie!! 😉🙂
My instant thought too!!
'Alice' ......
I can imagine how you'd be thanking him if he said something about "single black female" vibes, but youre right, its perfectly ok to judge and stereotypewhite people
@@tjls123 lmao wow single white female is a movie. Smh
@@jennandjuice1234 its a good one 2
I appreciate you going so much into her past. I've heard so many podcasts about her and This is the most I've heard about her Before her Crimes.
I agree he gives so much more information he's a good storyteller
this seems like a smart and soothing thing to fall asleep to that will certainly not affect my dreams in any weird way.
I fall asleep to Stephanie Harlowe's channel... her videos are lengthy and usually multi-part (up to 2 hrs long per episode). I've lost count of the number of times I've had bizarre elements in my dreams only to realise they were part of the crime stories she shared lol
I loved your work on this story, so many pictures I’ve never seen and details I had not heard..thank you!
This is the best true crimes channel on TH-cam and I'm suprised it doesn't have millions of subscribers already.
Agreed!
This is the most extreme version of
"Ma'am....the calls are coming from inside the house..."
Overprotective parents do far more harm than good. Their children will never be self sufficient, even after their passing. I can only hope that those type of parents listen to this tragic story and learn from it. I know a guy who's 38, has never lived on his own. Runs to his mother to fight his battles. Any small thing, he calls his mom and SHE WILL COME. HE IS 38!!!!!!!! That's a disgrace.......
A "Mommy's Boy!"
Exactly. It is why I disfavor them. They should not be parents.
I love your podcast, always brightens my days even when they’re gruesome like this . I can concentrate on something else then stressful life and I’m very thankful for your work :)
Love
I had parents similar to Janelles and I’m just very thankful I was able to get away asap. Doesnt excuse her or her actions, yet parents like that wear you down and know all your buttons.
That is a shame. It just tells you not everyone should be parents. It would be best if you disowned your parents.
This is one of my favorite cases. Janelle was looney, and insanely manipulative. Her parents were also incredibly gullible
Her parents were controlling, abusive conkwockets who made Janelle what she is.
Her parents were insane
Favorite cases seems weird to me . Interesting for sure, but I wouldn’t say a murder case could be a favorite in most contexts
I will never understand parents like them. Jenelle didn't have a chance to lead a normal life with all it's ups and downs. She may have turned out differently if she had had the confidence to escape their overbearing clutches like her sisters did. What she did was horrendous. She obviously worked on her parents over time, to manipulate them the way she did. Her boyfriend was a puppet too. Pretty messed up the lot of them.😔
Exactly. Jenelle should live somewhere else and disown her parents.
Parents weren't the sharpest tools in the shed and underestimated Jenelles intelligence and how evil she was
These videos are truly amazing. They are horrifying and tragic yet I’m addicted to watching. It’s great. These people stories are being told please continue to make more. I’m a huge fan you’re doing a great job.💛💛💛
I've also heard this story a few times...
But you went into so much detail that I thought it was a different case ENTIRELY!
Great detail! Love your channel :)
I will walk around doing something and explaining a tedious task to the missus and finish it with
“This is monsters” 😂
Love your channel and I listen to it to go to sleep (that’s a compliment BTW)
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HAHAHA! Okay, that's funny!
I bet she really gets a kick outta you- congrats to you both😂🖤
Yet again, perfect timing for people who can't sleep. I woke up in a hot sweat from bad lucid nightmares and these always help me realize they are *just* bad dreams
What was the nightmare ? If I may br nosey lol
Lol I am watching it to go to sleep - 9:30pm here in Australia
You do realize that the time is different depending on where you are in the world, right??
I woke up from sleep sweaty as well. What in the world is going on?
@@LadyAstarionAncunin.
I love how your videos start immediately. No bullshit in the beginning..thanks for entertaining us🥰💜
Two things:
1 Buddy committed stolen valor. This element really adds to the machismo of needing to “protect his daughter” by murdering young adults and “take orders” from a fake CIA agent.
2 She was “cyberbullying” herself, and if you read the insults she directed at herself, it’s obvious. It comes across as, “She’s so awful for being a beautiful and kind virgin!!”
I always rewatch cases here with you because you do the deepest dives into these cases. This is the best true crime channel for all the facts....and that shade you throw cracks me up 😂
“The calls are coming from INSIDE the house”
Everyone involved in that couple’s murders had the collective IQ of 49.
I remember this story but Jiles always seems to fill in the parts that usually are missed. Plus, I'm pretty sure most will agree he's a much better narrator. In my opinion, Janelle was a pretty manipulative individual and much smarter than what her parents gave her credit for.
I disagree that Janelle was smarter than her parents gave her credit for. I believe her parents weren’t that intelligent either
There is your name on the rock, therefore the rock belongs to you. Smart as a cucumber.
Haaaaaaaahahaha
“Errrr got a potato, it’s brown…. Got ma name onnn.” Sorry. This joke with my sister. 🤣♥️ That you reminded me of.
over-protective parents tend to result in children that are good at lying
Wow I can't believe that she convinced her family she was a guy in the cia
The three of them combined had the IQ of a beet.
I always look forward to your take on cases like this, ones that I had heard about previously. You always add such good info and details - thank you. 😊
Thank you for uploading, I’ve got insomnia and I’m so happy to have a new story to watch. ❤
I like long interrogations to help count sheep -
Looking to a screen before sleeping is the worst thing to do if you have troubles sleeping.
@@sauce1232 yes, to fall asleep just audio f/ interrogations.
I feel so bad for Tracy. She was just being friendly to a woman who wasn’t really allowed to have friends. Now, her brother and his beloved girlfriend are dead. Her nephew was orphaned before he could form any memories of his parents. And all because a miserable, jealous woman had to make everyone else miserable.
Obviously, Tracy’s not to blame for any of this, but I can’t even imagine the guilt she probably feels about it.
Imagine trying to be kind to a person only to be sucked into the rabbit hole vortex that is the batshit crazy Potter family.... unbelievable and sad.
So ready for this !!! Thanks for all you do ! Luv from Canada
I've seen this story many times on different channels, television, etc. But it's so much more interesting when you give your rendition. 💯💯💯
Love the sarcasm, makes me laugh at very dark moments! Another insane story from This Is Monsters 👀
Not printing the emails and shredding them to "destroy the evidence". 🤣
Boomers gonna boom
WHAT A STORY!!! 😯 It was awesome!! And of course, the narration was impeccable!!! Much love from Memphis Tn! 🥰
I'm never going to forget this tragedy. Tyler losing his loving parents to a Monster just breaks my heart.
Jenelle wasn't that silly. She was cunning and calculating and lied to her parents and ran rings around them. She could have left home years before and lived her own life.
ok
Ok
So why didn't she🤔
@@capricornqueen3139 Because she used her parents as much as they use her. They were financially supporting her and supplying all her physical needs and she played on her disabilities and played dumber than she was so she never had to work or worry about money.
Yes as I watched the video I kind of got that from her...very manipulative
Ive seen this case covered before, but you definitely did it best
Thanks so much!
I’ve seen videos of this but WOW I had no idea how involved and drawn out it was! Over years! Insane!
So happy you are covering this case. It is such a wild ride & honestly I am suprised it isnt covered more in the true crime community.
I THINK at least That Chapter covered it.
they should have made brushing your teeth one of their rules ...
Oh my god I’m dead 💀
😂😂😂💯 Damn!
Dude 😂
They relaxed the personal hygiene rules to make the dating rules less of a problem lol
@@jedross2136 bruh I can't ☠️
Sooooocrazy! Great storytelling of a convoluted story. I received my "It's never a mannequin" T shirt. So much fun explaining it to people who ask. 🥰
Thanks for the serotonin
Serotonin?! From a murder video? Okay.
@@maggiee639 do you even know where you are?
Easy now girls……
@@riversedgehomestead9700 *puts away knife* fine sorry you're right
How could these fully grown adults be so gullible 🤦🏻♀️
Love your channel and so happy for this appearing this morning had a accident yesterday so am stuck on the sofa binging on true crime. Your voice is so calm and comforting making horrible crimes more palatable.
Omg, I hope you're okay!!!
@@pigtailswithbows thank-you sprained knee and ankle and some tendon damage. X
Wow I hope you're feeling better and I hope you heal fast
Feel better soon
I don't know how you make these so fast, especially given the quality of the editing and narration, but it's awesome. Great job.
It's sleepy time. Glad to have your voice and sarcasm to listen to as I doze off
What a wild wild case. Thanks for the great coverage as usual.
I remember when this story first began making the true crime rounds and documentaries. As a criminal psychologist I found it amazingly fascinating but NOT surprising in the least. She was SO "underrated", as many with health or mental issues compounded by a protection wall from a young age are. She was meticulously intelligent, with both a strategic and complex set of mental tools. The level of complexity it took to come up with AND execute this manipulative plot is a gobsmack to many. But so many people do not realize that the the words "Learning disability" has LITTLE to do with "Intelligence". They tend to equate that phrase with "Slow" or "Mental retardation" of some kind, when all it actually means is that they do not well and have difficulty in the "Usual" or "Typical" learning environments society thinks of and that most of us thrive in or handle well. "Learning disability" does NOT mean a lack of, or "less than usual" or even "stunted" in most cases where actual intelligence and complex thought are concerned. Add to that some level of sociopathy and you've got SERIOUS trouble. MAINLY because of what I've said above, no one knows just how intelligent you really are and you learn to play off that misconception very early and use it to whatever advantages you'd like as time goes by. The fact she could think of this and pull this off and the consequences and harm done, is no surprise to those in most of the mental health fields. "Slow" is a whole different ball game, and THOSE people are actually FAR less capable or prone to committing such acts than "Normal" or "highly intelligent" people. Janelle's "Learning disability" had ZERO to do with her intelligence, which to be honest, was probably more complex and strategic than most reading this thread.
What a egotistically patronising comment to post; "... was probably more complex and strategic than most reading this thread...." of course people reading this thread couldn't be as clever as you or even - cleverer could they? That is an assumption & statement worthy of Janelle herself! LOL
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@@deasvail99 😂
@@deasvail99 Unlike your nearly blank troll account, mine is live, face to face, and full of content proving who, what and even where I am. Why don't you hit the record button and prove who you are to back up that mouth..lmao
Criminal Psychologist? DOUBT.
Best and most informative version of this case I've heard. Nice work as always.
I’m awake because I’m about to have back surgery at 6am and I can’t sleep cuz I’m super nervous! But it’s nice to have a Monsters upload to take my mind off of it! Thanks, guys!
Good luck with your surgery!
@@thisisMONSTERS thanks guys. Gonna binge both channels while I indulge in some medical grade pain relief and government grade organics ❤
This entire family is monsters. Thank you for covering this case so thoroughly. Crazy is as crazy does.
I love the rock incident. As if people who commit a crime leave their identities at the scene. This whole family was a bunch of crayon eaters. 😂
Thank you!
i watched the interrogation of her BF and he truly believed that Chris was real and the cops truly baffled
My CIA handler uses IG and emoji's when I get sent my hits.
I'm half expecting him and her parents are laughing at the prison guards, telling them that Chris will break them out someday.
He was a stone cold moron
@@Turk_2023 💀💀💀
I seriously can’t believe how someone can be so manipulative and yet, so unintelligent… it’s rare to be this much of a master manipulator and as intellectually stunted as she was… What’s even more surprising is the fact that the people closest to Janelle were also so unintelligent and naïve as well!
The children of excessively strict parents will often end up as exceptional liars.
Strict parents do not act like this. Her parents were bullies and abusive towards her.
I’m 7 minutes into this episode and it makes me think of my little brother, who’s in a wheelchair. My parents have completely sheltered him from the outside world. Kid has no idea what life is like..he’s not a monster though lol he’s a genuine soul. 😢
I can't even comment on this case. It's pathetic and sad, and to comment on any person involved would just be a waste of my breath. I hope Janelle spends the rest of her life wrapping her "eight to nine year old mind" around her "childlike mistakes". Ugh
I thought you couldn’t comment on this case or the persons involved 🤔
@@CT-vm4gf lol fair point ☝️ hahaha
I knew a girl in HS like Janelle. Except she was VERY smart. Her parents were so overbearing to the point that the mom had a baby and forced my friend to babysit while the mom recuperated. Her parents event crashed the prom. We were going as a group (all girls) so they would let her come. They danced while my friend was forced to sit at the table because she wasn't allowed to dance with no one, not even as a group. We a felt so bad for her.
I really don’t comprehend what relevance your input has, it doesn’t even make sense, we’re you drunk when you posted it ???
@@fikent5252 And are you a stupid troll incapable of basic reading comprehension? Let me dumb it down for you. A teenage girl who had controlling, overbearing, helicopter parents that NEVER allowed their only child (until they had another baby so add PARENTIFIED) any privacy or freedom of any kind. It was a miracle that they still "allowed" her to come to public school her senior year of high school. Janelle was in the samish position as my high school friend.
Parents like that are abusive. They mentally damaged their child. I hope the girl was able to leave that situation.
@@tashibalampkin8555 I hope she did. None of us ever heard from her after graduation in '98. We tried calling until the phone was eventually disconnected. 2 yrs after I saw her driving out of the parking lot of our local mall. She was by herself so who knows. Tried finding her on Myspace without luck.
My mother was manipulative/controlling like Jenelles' mother. Out of 3 children...I'm the only one that left home @ 13 years old & never looked back. my siblings & I are in our 50's now & my brother & sister STILL live @ our parents house to this day with my mom. But @ least my mother now sees the errors of her ways & is totally proud of me for having the ovaries to live my life on my terms.
13 is so young..how did you manage at such a young age???
@@laetitialogan2002 Cant answer yet. The cult she joined only allows internet once a year...( After the yearly private visit from the cult leader AKA ''DaddyO'' )
Wtf are you talking about? Your mom was telling you what to do until you were 13yo so she was manipulative?? Thats what parents suppose to do! And for a damn good reason. In 99,9% of cases a 12 year old's head is full of c**p as far as responsible behaviour goes. Your statement and the 22 likes you've got, scares the c**p out of me. How many of your kind are out there? What exactly are you saying? That a 13 year old who read's the comments and doesnt like his parents to tell him what to do, should run away from his/her's home? So that means... everybody! And you are 50 yo? Shame on you! WTF is wrong with you ppl?
Its so funny to me how they swear to protect her but allow her teeth to get that yellow lmao
Could have been the medications.
Thanks for adding so much info about Janelle. I've heard the story before, but not from that angle. So sad people get so wrapped up in imaginary drama they make it reality. Also, if someone claims to be from the CIA, their grammar and punctuation better be on point. Js
needed something good to listen to in order to sleep… right on time! thank u xx
Always excellent storytelling.. thank you..
I’ve heard this story several times, but you made it interesting again and had more cohesive information..
Appreciate the hard work Jiles!
"She told me her name was Billie Jean, as she caused a scene
Then every head turned with eyes that dreamed of being the one
Who will dance on the floor in the round
People always told me be careful of what you do
And don't go around breaking young girls' hearts
And mother always told me be careful of who you love
And be careful of what you do 'cause the lie becomes the truth"
-”Billy Jean," Michael Jackson
One whacko to another!😂
Good I'm not the only person thinking of that song throughout the video.
gatsby- impossible to read your comment…must sing it
So Good Your Back. Hope Your Feeling Better.
Missed Your Work.
All my fav true crime channels are killing it lately
Coffeehouse crime, criminally listed, that chapter?
@@micheleshively8557 check out Dreading & Urmaker so goooood
I remember this twisted story but I learned a lot from watching your video. Great job as always. 🤗💕
It frustrates me how some people can blindly support other people instead of thinking "hey, maybe everything they say isn't %100 genuine or true?" It's really a shame that so much got manipulated and made up. It ruined and stole people's life's. Out of pure spite and petty emotions...
You just described Trumps whole fan base.
These aren't regular people. I've heard this story before and I'm pretty sure even her boyfriend had developmental issues. That doesn't stop you from being prosecuted for a crime though.
I feel like this particular thing has become ever more of a problem thanks to social media and the rise of the influencer. People will blindly believe everything out of their favorite creators or models mouth and watching them command millions of people who follow them to send hate or do nothing to stop hate on the internet is pretty terrifying.
They were histrionic and got off on drama.
@@themadhi-hatter6849 Why you gotta bring politics into this? Also stop generalizing people, it makes you look dumb.
Seen a bunch of your vids, thanks alot! Nicely explained, and you cuss when needed. 😎👍
According to one of Jenelle’s family friends, Jenelle had major hygiene problems and would regularly refuse to clean herself
That why her teeth look super yellow in some of these pics?
Ewww
@@kiefdemon1979 bingo, you could imagine the colors of other areas. What a wretched glop stink she is.
@@kiefdemon1979 Looked like pieces of corn grandma served up for thanksgiving dinner
@@internetperson9121 yup, I can definitely see why the whole town thought she was too pretty. Oh wait, I forgot, only person who thought that was herself.
I think that Janelle felt entitled to people's affection, especially Billy's, because her parents always gave her their entire attention and love even though it was a dysfunctional toxic situation. When I heard that she had a crush on "Chris" that probably wasn't reciprocated, a little red flag popped up. Even in her thirties, she still thought of him and had the gall to pretend he was someone who loved her so much that he would tell her boyfriend and parents that Janelle had to be protected at any cost. Can you imagine the effect this had on his life? He is now a police officer, probably married, and a woman from high school is claiming
that he is a CIA agent wanting
Janelle to be protected at any cost.
I really think that besides getting revenge on Billy for not leaving BIllie Jean and the poor baby Tyler to adore her that she also wanted to get out from under the thumb of her parents and be with her boyfriend. Maybe that figured into it somehow also.
What a delusional and broken group of people. How does an ex Marine even fall for the whole CIA bit? Wow...
I always loved your videos, specially you show all the scenes instead of your face unlike the other peoples videos. Good job, keep up the good works!
I remember crying when I saw this case on Dateline. Thankfully the killers didn’t harm the baby.
This case actually literally made me puke in my throat, 🤮what they did was so inconceivable, and Janelle wasn’t as slow or dim witted as they thought, All of them were pure evil, all of them were monsters🤬, Great upload, quite a few facts that I’ve never heard before,👍🏻👍🏻and I heard of this when it happened, Good health and happiness to you and yours✌🏻💕
Her father. The marine/cia agent. Okay, I spent 20 years in the service. I just retired going on two years ago. Number one, he looks like the type of guy who worked some government job and got a government ID and told everyone he was in the CIA. The CIA will not accept someone solely off being a veteran. You do need some type of formal education and diploma. Second he has the look of other military retirees who still act like they're in the military they wear their rank on their hat, it's all they talk about now granted I talk about the military a lot but it was 20 years of my life I realized that it holds no weight over other people now that I'm out. I'm a former E5. I am no longer in the military. He just looks like the type of guy who thrived in the military, the military was his life, and he's going to carry it with him wherever he goes. It's not a fun type of guy to be around. I don't wear grunt style I don't wear nine line apparel. I have a beard I grew my hair out. I am no longer in the military nor do I believe or act like I am. one look at her dad's picture and I could tell you exactly what type of man he is. I'll tell you why because I've met him a thousand times and they all look alike.