NEVER Drive In This Mode In ANY Car!! (especially Range Rover 2022)
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If you come to a stop smoothly it doesn't turn off only if you engage the brake pedal in a slightly firm way. I assume you might drive aggressively that's why it annoys you?
Bro! Over a million views and you are the first one to actually GET IT 😎👏
It's exactly the same way in the Audi and Porche, except we also have a physical button for it. Thank god lol
except does anyone actually like stop start? its fucking stupid
@@DrivenHard no one drives a fuckin Range Rover though they are trash cars always breaking down
@@abrahamsanchez7455 Have you heard of preventative maintenance? prob not
The cars emission rating is based on start stop, that's why manufacturers won't let you disable it permanently.
You can disable it with simple coding
I have a button on my bwm right above the start button that will let me disable start stop permanently….
You can litteraly drife to any car mechatronic and ask them to disable it permanently
I let it de programm from my CLS, i dont know if you get problems for doing that in the US
I can on my 2 series
"Never drive in this mode"
Doesn't give a reason why not to.
Fail.
Horrible for your engine
he's just showing off.
ikr, and people must be blind if they don't see that start up setting.
The auto start stop feature ruins the starter in the engine because it’s being used more times than usual. This is why you shouldn’t use it in my opinion.
@@MLProductions.1 no shit.
Based on the title he should probably cover more than how to disable it though.
It makes a significant difference in fuel savings, engineering explained did a video explaining it and showing the difference in fuel consumption
Ya I saw they recently. He nailed it actually like he does with most of his videos. IMO though the pain system is too flawed and interferes too much for me to care about ~4% savings at the pump.
Why u lie ? Those are lies bro , start stop its only created for less pollution I’m from Germany and my father works at VW :) It’s actually not good for your car to keep it on
@@charity9685 it doesn’t do any measurable damage to the car in my experience. It can cause wear on the battery though.
In the bmw though that I bought just after 2 weeks of driving it shows 1 hour and 40 minutes of time I have sat in traffic and the engine has been disabled. That is a significant saving on pollution and fuel use.
@@lukiejames there are special car batteries for normal vehicles,
Start-stop batteries and so on.
I had the same issue as you, until i decided to buy one (obviously more expensive) and i haven’t changed it for 3y now.
@@cristirock3 the dealership was changing the battery with the stop start AGM Mercedes’ authentic batteries for stop start. I think the main issue was that because it had the MBUX system and was always connected to the internet and the app, if you didn’t drive the car for a few days it really drained the battery quite heavily and over time that does damage the battery. I noticed as well on a few occasions after a week if I had not driven I got a low battery warning on the app and on the screen. I loved the Mercedes’ but after two years of annoying faults they bought the car back. The most annoying of all, a car that put itself into neutral whilst driving for no reason! However the system was so easy to use with the touchpad whilst driving. I just didn’t expect it to need a new battery each year of ownership.
I just bought the 330i and it’s a nice car, I don’t find it as exciting inside but it feels well built.
The bmw whilst not as exciting inside, really is so frugal on petrol I cannot believe it. It’s using 5-6L per 100km and it’s got more power then the Mercedes’ and an even bigger vehicle. It seems to be a bit smarter with the stop start, some how it knows at certain times that it’s not a good idea to engage.
The active grill also means the bmw is at optimum temperature within a minute which is really good if you want to put the heating on in winter, the engine is ready to go in no time.
Holy shit. Who would have known the button that is labeled as the function you want to change will change the function you want to change. Really ground breaking content, you're doing gods work.
GROUND BREAKING OMG THANKS. Useless video
This illuminate my day like a sudden revelation about life.
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Maybe in an ASMR way... forget about it.
You gotta remember this is for the range rovers demographic. Land Rover and Jaguars...expensive 🤡 cars
@@Jay-st6sl
Except it isn’t
People who can afford such expensive cars aren’t sitting around and watching random shit tok videos and youtube shots
@@raghuveer4552 you right. There's no way out of the literal billions of people who use those platforms, any of them are financially prosperous enough to afford a Range Rover. Sounds totally plausible and not extremely stupid at all.
/s 😂🤡
For me auto start stop is not useless...I like the silence when waiting for greenlight...don't know what is the fuel saving, but living in a big city and being caught in trafic jams is something regular I can see the benefit. Anyhow that is why there is the option to turn it off...for some it's nice for others they can turn it off so useless debate.
Lol agreed
Yeah useless debate coz u have no idea and 0 car knowledge good luck with your start stop on a long run with diffrent engine:)
@@2kubal I have a 320d BMW from 2013 with 220k km I bought it with 50k km...I still use auto start stop...never had any provlems.
If you have enozgh money to buy Range Rover, you do not care about fuel consumption
My dad use to say that all the time Growing up 😂🤣
How did i live my life before watching this.....wow just wow.
Try put the gearbox in sportmode. In my Volvo the auto start/stop won’t work when I use sportmode with the gear-lever.
Totally agree. It's obviously going to save fuel if your doing a lot of stop-start in traffic where you're waiting in a stopped state, but my VW had a tendancy to power down at junctions and roundabouts. Last thing you want in a situation where you need to get into a traffic stream is a stopped motor. Bloody painful. Absolutely need an easy way to switch this 'feature' off.
I get my chauffeur to turn it off in most of my vehicles. Apart from the Aston Martin DB5 which we run on a rather spiffing Chateau Neuf du Pape for environmental reasons.
"Useless feature"
Let's multiply the amount of fuel saved by the number of cars that use this feature. Massive consequences.
Fuel saved? Perhaps, your engine? Nope.
@@TimberWulfIsHere start stop has very little effect on engine wear as it only kicks in once your engine is fully lubricated and sufficiently warm. Speaking as a 150k Audi owner with 0 oil consumption using auto stop start since day 1.
@@jeevanjacob4102 so you have opened up your engine to check once every few years? Wear and tear occurs during startup most of the time. If you live in the city, you would be stopping and starting multiple times, well before your engine oil is at operating temperature.
Life time starts ups is about 50,000 over the course of a en engine. That jumped to 500,000 with start stop. I can’t remember the exact figures but it was roughly that type of difference
@@TimberWulfIsHere some people will never realize they're wrong. Like what would you stand to gain by telling people the truth about how this "feature" wears their engine out? I know the company sure needs to sell them another one asap, what better way to do it then tell them how convenient starting their engine every 10 minutes is.
I have 17 focus rs with the same feature. So I had the Ecu reprogrammed, more power and no auto shutoff
Libernois out of Dearborn did me. I'm scraping the open deck. New internals,, Strattified port Injection (separate controller) , better turbo,intercooler,blowoff,, catchcan,,,525 fpt.
My msport makes a big difference when keeping it on, sat in traffic some mornings saving fuel adds up over the course of the month. If you are going to label it useless please explain why!
When I commute by bike I enjoy having cars not belching out crap when they are stopped at the lights. Took a little getting used to when driving my own car with auto stop/start but it's really not difficult (having to disable it on the menu like that every time you start up seems like more of a pain tbh).
From a bikers perspective that’s a very interesting point of view. Thanks for that
@@DrivenHard yeah, but who cares about bikers??? Ahahahah
Yo no one cares about a bikers thoughts. Use the sidewalk
@Nicholas Stanko, illegal in Ireland. Would the fumes magically disappear if I was on the sidewalk?
@@liamot no but at least you guys would be off the streets and out of our way.
Not sure what most people have an issue with regarding this but in my friends 2021 Mercedes CLA not only does your car go nice and quiet if the idling reaches past one minute and not only is it good for saving gas but you can hit the Accelerator and continue driving with no disturbance it’s as if the car never even turned off
“Never drive in this drive mode” *proceeds to talk about auto start/stop 🤡
I feel like I’m stuck in the past because my car doesn’t have all these fancy high tech features. It doesn’t even have a touch screen or Bluetooth so this video make me feel like I’m looking at a futuristic car.
Auto start stop is great. Really saves that whole 1/1000 of a gallon per tank full. Plus all the extra wear and tear on my car makes sure I have to buy a new vehicle.
It doesn’t add wear and tear lol. Your engine is already up to temp. The wear is at cold start.
@@alexmason5521 actually it does as the oil is not flowing through the engine.
@@SterlingSigurdsen temperature change is what wears on an engine. If the engine is off it doesn’t need oil running through it. And unless something is really wrong with your car oil pressure will immediately return when it’s started again
@@alexmason5521 and are you a mechanic? I doubt it. The oil is not at the top of the motor upon restarting. It’s this first second or two that the oil has to reach again. Plus it’s unnecessary stress on the starter even though yea they’re built better, but they’ll wear out quicker. Also the pulling on the chains and belts wears out quicker due to this. The minimal saving in fuel is not worth the risk of damaging other components.
He says the auto start stop is a useless feature but it’s not useless for the car companies. It’s great for car companies because it wears the engine down and you come back sooner to buy a new one
Just clearing something up. As a mechanic i can tell you that a startermotor for a rangerover is NOT cheap, and it takes a toll on the startermotor to be working all the time.
Don't you love it when people think that a starter will just last forever. Cause yeah, that's what we all want, a starter to go out or start going out and suddenly you are broken down in the middle of the road
If you can't afford to replace the starter you can't afford a range rover.
@@martyk1156 even if I could afford a range Rover, I would never buy one. For the price of one, I could get 3-4, cars I actually want, rebuild them, and still have money left over. A range Rover is nothing but a status symbol
@@deadpanda12109 or just wait for a couple years for it to depreciate and you get it really cheap. But I agree, they’re just a status symbol.
@@deadpanda12109 you could easily say the same about anything. For the price of a rolex i could buy 10 watches and have money left over. For the price of nikes i could buy 10 pairs of Asics. For the price of a tempurpedic you could buy 4 spring mattresses.
And by the end of it all, you will be driving a shitbox with a shit watch and shit shoes sleeping in a shit bed. Congrats you made it
Wait, the one thing you absolutely can't stand in your RR Sport is that you can configure the screen to show the start/stop button?
I know that Audi A3s have start stop automatically on, the aircon stays on and it cools down the engine while stopped at a light.
I’m not a gear head by any means but wouldn’t that option wear out your starter really quickly?
Only reason I turned my off in my old car was because it sometimes stalled the engine when i put clutch down to start the engine back up and after didn't turn back on at the first click of the start switch. Let's just say I had some flashing and beeps. And now with my new car the battery clearly has an issue where it makes inop so I just want one that works
The start stop's main purpose is to reduce emissions from a stand still traffic.
I always have it on, zero issues as yet and done 50k miles in it. For reference I have a 1.5L TDCI Ford C-Max. I think the argument is pretty pointless as it always comes down to personal preference. I have talked to other drivers and it also highly depends on whether your car is petrol or diesel... It seems to make a difference with diesel and seems useless with petrol.
Depends on the size of the Diesel engine though. My dually would run terribly with one but something like a little 2.4L would probably be fine with one
Where’s the quick access button for breakdown recovery? That would be used more frequently than reverse on a Land Rover 😂
Auto start stop is ridiculous and hard on the car, but so is long periods of idle, and stopping and going at lights and signs
I loved, when I got my Lincoln, how they set up their range. Multiple engine options for a pleasurable drive(w/DCT) and no PASS/*SS. For those that should have bought a Ford, multiple milder engines with a CVT and PASS/*SS. People got serious financial problems if they are majorly concerned about MPG in luxury cars, and need to rethink their decisions.
Bingo! I hate the auto start stop in my wifes corsair.
Auto start is a joke! I love that i have a physical button but its not healthy for a car to start and stop all the time! The constant combustion to start over and over again is like flipping a light switch on and off over and over, eventually, you're gonna kill the switch and/or the fixture itself!
-Hey, I cant talk, i'm drive my Range Rover 2022.
-OK, but...You call me?
-Bye!
Espectacular Range Rover Sport. Brutal y sublime auto. Enhorabuena y felicidades desde Spain por esa maravilla de Range Sport y afortunadadisimo propietario.
Un cordial saludo desde Madrid, Spain
Probably a OK feature in a automatic but darn it makes me angry in a manual.
Auto stop/start is a very hit or miss system, some brands do it well and some don't. My 2020 Ford Fusion has it, it just doesn't start the car fast enough. Too much lag, though it does truly help with the fuel efficiency on my car.
The main reason to not use it, is because it puts strain on the starter. Rather than just once or twice a trip. It's at every red-light that's more than 3 sec.
Wait but why? If you turn off the auto stop/start it will stay off. So why would you ever have to touch it again?
The countless amount of cars I take off on at a green light (who are still starting up) lmao
That seems a little bit convoluted. My sister's Buick Verano has start stop, but you're able to disable it on the fly.
When you come to a stop and it shuts off, let off the break and brake again. Simply a tap tap with the brake.
Doesnt shut off again until you actually hit the gas to drive and break to stop again.
I wouldn't say auto start stop is useless the main point is to reduce emissions and improve air quality in cities
I will say it's much better suited to cars with small light engines less wear and tear on the starter motor and battery it's not harmful to the engine thought 🙂
I only ever use the start/stop occasionally, when the light goes red in front of me. I find my car 4-cyl 1.4L very economical, even when running. 48 mpg combined long-term driving cycle.
Imagine a car that expensive that can't remember your settings between uses. Having to disable that and enable your drive move everytime is insane considering what the car presents itself as.
Fun fact: you can change settings by going in settings.
Except auto start stop is there for DCT Transmissions which prematurely wear the clutches out in the transmission when you keep it running just holding the brake down which makes it simulate a traditional automatic creeping forward... it just drags the clutches to creep forward burning them up fast... not to mention the economy numbers that come along with it
Except that you’d burn up a clutch at the same speed regardless. I’ve seen cars with start/stop tech coming in for a clutch replacement with 30k and I’ve seen older that are still running the original clutch at 150k with little to no creep in them. Not to mention that start/stop does cause more wear on your engine since even if it’s warmed up you’re still causing the engine to start more times than usual. I’ve had that feature turn my engine on and off over 150 times in a 1 hour drive. Even warmed up that’s way to many time and will cause damage to the engine
@@SuperTheast that's usually the first indication of a weak and worn out clutch pack in a DCT Transmission is the creep function either barely works or stops all together. Sucks no brakestands or just flooring it from idle they really don't fare well under quick acceleration. If it doesn't have a launch control don't try to launch it lol only thing you can do is just roll into the throttle, no holding brake and throttle to spool up the little turbos they all have now lol
@@SuperTheast i should really be a vehicle durability tester lol I'm an asshole to cars, everything is a racecar in its own way lol
First button I press after switching on my car as well. The fuel saving is minimal, and switching off a turbo equipped engine without the turbo being properly cooled and lubricated can’t be good (opinion)
This is really only true if you are driving hard, if you are in city traffic you wont get enough heat or turbine rpm for it to be necessary.
Works perfectly fine on the 3ltr diesel.
My 2021 Infiniti QX80 AWD Sensory doesn't have this feature. Besides the auto stop-start feature isn't going to save much fuel in stop-and-go traffic.
if u fully press the brake it’ll activate the start stop if u lightly press it at a light the car will stay on atleast in my rav 4
It saves fuel consumption but in turn will wear your battery more and vehicles get worn off when turning on and off constantly. There’s people who have hit easily over 500k miles because they drive and go long distances instead of turning off and on.
I hate start stop as well. I turned it off permanently in my 750
Lol im happy my GTI has a physical auto start stop button. First thing I do is start car, press auto start stop button, seatbelt. No way to permanently turn it off afaik
You can get it coded in (after market fix) to to be permanently off, I know you can on BMWs can’t think why you shouldn’t be able to on others
I live and drive in London.
And I always turn mine off on my Range Rover a 30-minute drive the engine will stop start more than 200 times.
I hate that too when I drive my sister Honda CR-V but sometimes I forget to turn off before driving away.
very relatable problem
Do these use the starter or compression to restart?
Don’t forget about turning off traction control when your in the snow! Especially if you need to go up a hill covered in snow. Also turn it off when in muddy conditions.
Traction control is great for dry roads and rainy conditions, other then that it’s useless
It definitely can interfere in certain situations when you need slip
@@DrivenHard and in the newer vehicles it can limit your rpm in a situation when you need it the most. I disable mine on winter days so if I get into a situation I don’t have to take my eyes off the road to disable it.
Also if you have one spinning rear wheel you can temporarily trick your wheels to both spin by slightly putting on your emergency break if you have a pull style emergency break. I call it a
Break locker.
This is satire, right? TC is useful on all surfaces as long as you have some momentum. You only turn it off when you can't accelerate from a stop, because that's where TC will actually refuse to give you power. If you have at least 10mph, it will work flawlessly (and if it doesn't, then the hill is so slippery that it may be impossible to even stop if you were to spin wheels without TC)
And if you're the exception for some reason, you just got bad luck, and got one of those late-90s to late-2000s cars that have overzealous traction control. Most cars are better.
@@specialopsdave It’s not Satire.
All the new and old vehicles that don’t have a winter driving mode I automatically turn off traction control.
When you need TC off is when you really need to not have to worry about why your not moving forward.
The best is when your going up a snowy road only to find rear wheel drive vehicles littering the road that you now have to drive around while avoiding traffic coming down the hill just to get to work. I deal with this every year especially the last hill before getting to the highway while going to work.
What really gets me is the fact that people don’t have good vehicles for winter driving when they live in a winter area.
My favorite truck is my 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 that doesn’t have traction control. All my other vehicles that I have had over the years up till now I have had to disable traction control because when one wheel slips the computer decides to throttle the engine power which in turn slows the vehicle down when you need it to speed up to get up the hill in snow.
And as a tip... if you have a 4x4 with no rear locker you can pull your e-break just a little so you can stop one wheel peel from happening.
Usually just one or 2 clicks on your e-break but don’t forget to take it off after you get to the top.
@@frankdelucey2137 Actually, I wasn't even thinking of RWD cars, my bad 😅 I forget they're totally different from the FWD and AWD cars I drive in winter, the only RWD vehicle I own is a '97 Dodge pickup that has magically avoided frame rust entirely so far, so I don't want to tempt fate and drive it in winter. Besides, it doesn't even have TC anyways, so I would never notice
The #1 reply I get for asking why people turn their auto stop/start off is “Oh it’ll wear the starter out faster. Do you honestly think they didn’t think to design the starter to be more beefy and to be able to handle repetitive on/off cycles? Engineers aren’t stupid. Use common sense.
Yep especially if u drive a 5.0 it seems especially dumb for traffic lights 🙄 but can’t beat the start up sound 😂
Wow imagine having to go through this much trouble just so your car won't stop on its own new cars sure are fun
Good thing he remembered how to fix the thing he posted a video about, after posting it so he could post another video about how to do the thing he said he couldn't do. Awesome content brother. Can you tell us how to put it in drive, just like you did in another high end car.
Just posted another basic one make sure you watch it to THIS BUTTON CHANGES EVERYTHING!!
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Would it help to read the owner's Manual?
He’s just excited because he worked it out all on his own.
Gee the days of a manual car, that you are in control of every aspect, and have to just drive it lol.
Auto stop/start is absolutely not a "useless feature". Saves fuel, reduces emissions. What don't you understand?
"Oh no, my overpriced SUV is too cOmPlIcAtEd! HALP!"
I feel like that’s something you should have to turn on if you want it not turn it off every time you drive it
I just get used to it in my Range Rover, saves me some money too.
Learn something new every day. For the life of me I thought those things were buTTons, not buDDons. Smh.
You can unplug a cable in the booth to turn it off permanently
Auto start stop is goddamn annoying, but it saves gas.
JLR have an SVO facility in Coventry that handles special vehicles, I’m sure they’d be more than happy to add ONE. SINGLE. BUTTON.
Lol JLR doesn’t do that type of stuff.
I have auto start stop in my 2019 VW Tiguan and I hate it. I swear it wants to kill me by cutting the engine right as I want to pull away at a junction.
I just manually turn off my car at every red light and manually turn it back on when it turns green.
I disconnect my battery in traffic just so it lasts a few days longer
MY 2013 Jaguar XF let me turn it off in the settings once and never had to deal with it again. It would suck if I had to turn it off every single time I got in.
This makes me worry about excessive engine wear am I right or is this not something to worry about
BMW saves what you choose, super nice that I dont have to turn it off every time I get in
Swap the battery for a regular one and start stop wont work anymore
Tips like this i don't think I'm never gonna use by meaning I'm never can buy these stuffs that's why i love youtube to watch
The infotainment in that looks like you drive a smart fridge
Autostart is fine, the engine and all its components were made for it.
Ranger owner flexing his fuel usage
They should have a feature that perminetly cut it off
I got my car mechatronic disable it permanently when it was in reperation from a wild life accident
Why are your screens flickering like that?
Screens, led lights etc flicker like that on camera when the recording resolution doesn’t match the screens since LED are always flickering but it usually too fast for the human eye to detect
Definetly came about to sell more starters. No way this feature saves any "carbon" especially when factoring in the premature failure of the ignition system components. It's actually devanced logic.
Do you really think they use the same starter systems in start stop cars like they do normal cars, some start stop cars will even have a seperate starter for the start stop function also they are way stronger units than in old cars.
And you have to turn it off every time you get in the car? It's default turned on every time? That's the kind of thing that will make me never own a certain car. I already hated enough when certain cars make you hit the button every time just so the maps will work , you have to pledge your three first children that you won't use them as while you're driving etc
Why turn it off though? Not sure I agree
The customizable home screen(Also on my Kia Carnival) needs to be a thing on all automobiles ASAP.
Holy shit, look at all those things that will almost certainly break, I bet you will never see one of these cars in a few years time. Repair bills will be too expensive
Imagine buying a Range Rover of all cars. What a terrible purchase.
So glad I just turn the keys in my 2004 shitbox
When spending more money on a vehicle makes no cents!
Haha jokes on you, my doesnt have start/stop. The only safety features it has is ABS which currently is disabled, Seatbelts and airbags. No traction control or any other type of fidangled type of tech unless you count the 4x4 system
I dont like start/stop cos when it’s not on green I feel there’s something wrong with the car, like my Mercedes
And here i am who were clueless about these auto start/stop
Just make sure to sell this vehicle after warranty out. IN SHOP ALWAYS after about 85K miles.
Auto start/stop just isn’t a useless feature.
Doesn't the auto start stop wear your starter out faster? I can only imagine the cost of the replacement of one on a range Rover.
No, all new cars with the feature have beefy starters to handle the additional stresses
The cost is just under $2000. Already replaced it
Yes people we no wat the point of it is but there is some us us out there that despise this auto stop start melts my Brain 🧠
Forget Auto start/stop. That screen is a disaster. Takes 10 tries to press a button. I can confirm this with my range.