I believe that chaos servants were pretty pissed, when civilians started running screaming at them in great numbers. That day the Imperium stole their thing.
@@This_side_of_the_internet “No, no, NO! YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG!!!” - Magrukx Sirdar, Blood Pact commander, moments before being bludgeoned to death with lead pipes and gardening utensils.
This was the book that solidified my loyalty to the Imperium over all other factions. The emotional gut-punches of the Saint being a fraud and the supernatural feeling of despair following the death of the strange miracle girl, followed by the palpable relief as the former fraud becomes the genuine article…that’s the very least of the reasons why this book is so beloved to me.
The appearance of the real Saint just when the Imperials were on the brink of defeat with Gaunt kneeling in awe and renewed faith, Kolea and Mkvenner both being given a miracle, the intense fight when the Chaos Magister himself arrived, the broadcast that called out Innokenti for having failed to break the Imperials faith and will to fight before the climatic ending with every man, woman, and child rising up to the call of their beloved Saint's call to arms. I could keep going on just for the sheer number of moments this book gave. Now we are done with the Saint Arc, next up the Lost Arc. The gut punches are a coming.
The whole fact of the Magister Enok Innokenti was attacking with such a force to begin with was one of the exact reasons why the Saint refused to leave Herodor for Morlond as she told Gaunt near the end of the battle. For if had she left the world for the Warmaster then, the flanks and rear of the Crusade would have still been under assault and more than likely cut off dooming the Crusade to complete and utter defeat. But, by staying on Herodor and forcing one of the Archenemies most infamous and notorious leaders to commit an army near a million strong with hundreds of thousands of armor support and backed by a sizable fleet to an insignificant world, the momentum of the Chaos advance was stalled and blunted which also allowed news to be reported back that the Warmaster had finally taken Morlond and send much needed reinforcements to Herodor bringing one of the greatest threats to the Imperial forces to a hard and bloody halt. The most significant and celebrated victory in the entire Crusade during its darkest years.
he had a living saint to kill, you know... And Karess was infiltrated superbly, BP sappers dug him a route into city underground and while imperials were fighting above, he slowly made his way to saint inner sanctum
Assassins dont necessarily need to be stealthy, just kill their target. By their very nature that means most have to be, but in a warzone, an assassin could be a Tank Crew, or a sniper, or a rampaging goliath of flesh and drugs induced into rage.
Perhaps he read about the famed Steiner Scout Squad that uses Atlas mechs... for reconnaissance. After all, if everyone and everything that saw you is converted into a giant burning crater before you move on, it totes counts as stealth.
I think the 19th platoon got an even shorter end of the stick: "Nineteenth platoon were about five hundred metres from Old Hive's north entrance when they saw the gates close. Skerral stopped in his tracks, and pulled the men up. Half his unit were dead. He ejected a cell from his lasrifle and slammed in a new one. "Come on," he said, turning back to face down the slope at the waves of assault sweeping in. "Let's see how many we can kill." The remnants of nineteenth lasted seventeen minutes from the times the gates closed. They accounted for one hundred and eight-nine enemy casualties. No one witnessed their heroism."
@Rockcrusher22895 the bit where the Mandrake felt completely vulnerable as Mkoll tracked him was so well written, especially after the sequences dedicated to his skills.
tbh it was published in the days of old lore when Mandrakes were not the living shadow demons but regular bald dark eldar assassins. Mkoll still was savage calling this dark eldar "Pretty good"
@@frankthetank8050 oh yeah cause the guard is treated with the utmost respect in 40k and in a galactic sized military one guy doing something ridiculous one time in an army noone expects anything from is real dumb note the sarcasm
It's pretty clear from anytime he mentions ships Dan Abnett has never read any of the Battlefleet gothic books and has no idea how the Imperial Navy functions either in lore or the tabletop, his ship classes are all over the place, the tactics make no sense and the respective power of ships swings wildly. Honestly to a BFG Imperial Fleet player like me, most of his ship sections are just painful
The Imperial Navy response in this story really does prove Dan Abnett while generally a good writer has absolutley zero idea how the Imperial Navy functions, it's ship classes the differences between them or even really a concept of void combat in the 41st Millennium, if you want a better depiction of how the Imperial navy should function look no further than the Ciaphas Cain Novel Traitors Hand which presents a almsot idential naval situation and a far more accurate naval response, Sandy Mitchell at least taking the time to learn the actual names of the ship classes instead of just making up tonnage grades
Biagi (the commander of Civitas Beatis) is secretly a genius strategist. Especially in the opening battles of the Herodor war, dude was just pulling one UNO reverse card after another😮
These series breakdowns are as good if not better than what'd you find on the history channel Plus the battle in space was as crazy an opening as the opening chaos attack at vervun hive
Blood Pact Solider, watching the Baneblade get filleted by the Living Saint while his platoon is routed by peasants with clubs, knives and revolvers screaming praises to the Emperor - "Is this what it's like?! Is this what the Imperials go through when fighting us when we have a Deamon Prince to lead us?! I can see why they F'ing hate it!!"
Berengaria before the fleet arrives: “Hmph! Who does he think he’s talking to! I’m not a lowly frigate! I’m a light cruiser! 😤” Berengaria after the fleet arrives: “Help me! I can’t hold them off on my own! I’m just a mere frigate! 😭”
48:02 Also that the Adeptus Sororitas wasn't supposed to be founded for 1-2000 Years after the Saint "First" died yet he's talking to a Battle Sister, smh. Ugh Dan Abnett's being Dan Abnett at times...
Should have placed stealth space mines around the planet at strategic locations assigned to navy vessels. And how the hell is there a fire in a space ship that can simply open itself up to vacuum able to spread? Clearly, the entire naval task force needs a dose of the emperor’s mercy for falling for such a ridiculous ruse.
Depending on where the fire IS it would be impossible to just expose that area. Not because of the safety of the crew or the lower deck riffraff, no just physically impossible. Even the smallest Navy vessels are huge by our standards
Ugg. Some authors have no idea how to write 40k space warfare. Ships don't die this fast 40k. Arch does his best to cover it well and does a good job. But the source work is pure stupid for reader suspense sake.
Well if something smallish managed to get hit by the plasma Macro batteries and dorsal lances at point blank range (ie close enough for visual range via bridge zoom lens) From a Retribution Class Battleship it would probably die fast if most the shots landed.
@cnlbenmc I was thinking of the small gap in the shields. Then bam! Dead. Which isn't how void shields work and that was big damn ship. So... I'm calling BS. Or the one fighter into a magazine elevator into the whole magazine into half the ship missing. Lol. It's laughable. But hey we had to imperial the planet so eh... Whatever. Like I said the author of those books had no idea how to wright void battles.
+@@Maximum_Bacon+ Somehow i forgot to include the part with the Retribution Class Battleship but fixed it. And yes Holes in Void Shields aren't supposed to be a thing; either an entire layer is up or it's gone and needs to recharge plus most ships have at least 2 layers. I think I heard that they can "flicker" if something is wrong with it/on the verge of giving out completely or is of a poor design but that's not what a Proper Void Shields are supposed to be. Dan's got a wierd thing with shields in the Sabbat Worlds Crusade...
Love it Arch. I literally book the book down when I read Corbecs death, Abnett really made you hate Cuu so much. Well done. However one small nit pick/correction. Hark didnt use a bolt pistol, it waa a plasma pistol that killed the Loxatl. The plasma pistol is one of Harks signatures and was prized possession. Also wish you would have given brief mention of the tragic scene of Hark handing Soric over to the inquisition
56:30 (Mackeroth perpetually holding the face palm. Using Integra voice.) (probably) "So that's your field report, Gaunt?" "Yup." "You actually didn't complain about the flame thrower stigmas?" "Nope." "You took orders?" "Yup." "You actually followed their orders?" "Yup." "And the literal moment they gave you your flame throwers back, you ordered your men to burn their most holy fountain of sacred waters?" "Totally..." "What do you have to say for yourself?!?!" "It was an awesome crab boil?"
I swear to God Emperor the Revenant is the most plot armor-y ship in this universe. It "got a lucky hit" on a HEAVY CRUISER'S shields, and then exploited it before a GRAND CRUISER could recover its shields or respond with an overehelmingly superior return volley? Also...got a lucky hit? Really? On SHIELDS? Void shields are energy derrived. You have to completely drain out the reserves and short the void shield generators before they fail. You DO NOT "get aclucky shot and punch through them". The revenants are just variants of Carnage Class cruisers as far as I know. Even if both of them coordinated their firepower on the Grand cruiser it should have annihilated one betore its shields collapsed, much less taken critical damage and exploded.
My impression about Dark Eldar. Is that they avoid Chaos when ever they can. Out of shear fear of she who thirsts. So some one must be real desperate for Dark Eldar to show up here.
This was beautiful. The entire time while listening I wanted to play this in a Dawn of War I RTS format. Heredor in particular would make a fantastic campaign, filled with interesting scripted events, branching paths, champion units, and even bosses for both sides. Why hasn't GW commissioned the entirety of the Sabbat World Crusade be made into a game? Why does GW hate money?
Hark doesn't have a bolt pistol. He has a plasma pistol. Its like his whole thing. It would be like saying Larks having a heavy stubber, or Gaunt having a power maul.
Some random late night, a writer found a cockroach trapped in his dishwashing sink, unable to crush he had to result to opening the hot water tap and watching the poor cockroach going out the most excruciating way, in the process a bright idea presented itself to him, how to destroy a most annoying intruding chaos dreadnought very intuitively...😅
So why did the Chaos boys not immediately initiate indiscriminate orbital bombardment the moment they’d achieved orbital supremacy? Why land troops? I thought the Blood Pact were supposed to be professionals.
Arch explained in the video, the Chaos Forces had to be sure that they got the Saint and for that they need the body. An orbital bombardment would not have achieved that and there would have been no way of knowing for sure that they got the Saint. If they bombarded then the hope that the Saint escaped would still be there and they wouldn't have achieve much. But if they succeeded in the Assassination and were able to broadcast that fact, then Morale of the entire Crusade could have been shattered, potentially winning the entire conflict for Chaos.
@@Sinsystems The Imperium could easily just say "that's a random girl's corpse you dressed up in golden power armor" and Chaos could, in fact, just do that. Also it's easy to confirm she's dead if you bomb the world so hard it kills literally everything on it, like Tanith. Failing that, they should at least have immediately carpet-bombed the city the moment they realized Imperial reinforcements they couldn't overcome were breaking Warp. Khorne cares not from where the blood flows, and the men on the ground were dead at that point anyway.
@@akuinator6350The thing is you cant confirm a kill even with extermanatis grade weapons. Ahriman along with at least 10 (thats the number of named ones the book implied it was more but is fuzzy with any real numbers) sorcerers, and at the least dozens of rubric marines dodged cyclonic torpedoes launched at the planet they were standing on. On top of that imagine the value to the dark gods that desecrating a saint or their remains would have, it would be a fast track to power, possibly up to the point of Daemonhood, and it would give your armies an immensely powerful unholy lodestone. Actual warp fuckery for your troops could be pulled from her body via rituals to the dark gods.
@@akuinator6350They did not bomb the city after hearing about the imperial reinforcments because at that point Magister Inokenti himself was in the city. And he didn't believe himself expendable.
*Reads about the fate of the Imperial battleship and flips table* I never, EVER wwnt to hear one PEEPNout of you chaos fanboys about the IMPERIUM getting bullshit plot armor. The writers just used plot points from Star Wars film to give Chaos a clean victory (one miraculous hit that happens to bullseye the bridge snd thus CRIPPLE a gargantuan ship (because they would NEVER have a backup command center) and a couple random fighters flying through all defenses and into a hanger to make the ONE SHOT that effectively annihilates the target. ... If ONE imperial pilot did that and crippled or destroyed a famous Chqos battleship you bastards would scream bloody murder. Don't lie.
I agree with you - hence why the author who wrote that is known to be very very poor at the job or writing space battles, as that means of destroying the battleship was indeed... very painful to hear...
No procedures in-place to "backoff if anything unusual happens" ??? To be honest, if a raging fire suddenly vanished from a distressed ship, I'd back my ship off without caring if my own docking equipment may end up damaged, and immediately transmit a request for backup - relaying the unusual occurrence and wanting confirmation from another ship.
I know she’s being show with them in the art but did the Saint have wings? Clearly she was a bit of a puppet at first and I assume didn’t have wings. Was there a point where she gained them?
Never ceases to frustrate me how we have such cool female characters in 40k & yet ignorant tourists still harp on with the same lazy bs. The reincarnated Saint Sabbat is a literal Angel of the Emperor, whose mere presence is able to rally broken soldiers and unarmed civilians in to victory, filling their hearts with righteous fervour & whose own combat prowess is capable of taking down powerful Chaos champions.
incompetence of the imperials never ceases to amaze me 6:1 for chaos I guess. having cheat codes for the rules of the universe helps edit: I got to the first day of city fighting and arch describes it as a good day for imperials? lol my country's military doctrine suggests a ratio of 7:1 when attacking enemy strong points(if equally matched technologically) the fact Blood Pact managed to achieve multiple breakthroughs while outnumbered 2:1 really says something. 120k bp should obliterate the city in days.
Upon testing, it takes 60s for the AI to yeet a comment.. Until we get an AI that can read context and take a joke, this is a terrible idea and the amount of nuance this thing misses is ridiculous. I've seen people writing the most horrible things and they get through, but I can't make a joke? Am I flagged specifically or something?
Today I learned you can't post the founding fathers copypasta meme, even edited for 40k jokes. I got three attempts to post it auto-deleted by the AI comment czar.
Considering how much the Chaos forces got the "Just As Planned" success in space, never understood how the Chaos forces not just bombed from orbit and then swept over the remains of the Imperial forces with mass landings and also the assassins.
I believe that chaos servants were pretty pissed, when civilians started running screaming at them in great numbers.
That day the Imperium stole their thing.
@@This_side_of_the_internet “No, no, NO! YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG!!!”
- Magrukx Sirdar, Blood Pact commander, moments before being bludgeoned to death with lead pipes and gardening utensils.
This was the book that solidified my loyalty to the Imperium over all other factions. The emotional gut-punches of the Saint being a fraud and the supernatural feeling of despair following the death of the strange miracle girl, followed by the palpable relief as the former fraud becomes the genuine article…that’s the very least of the reasons why this book is so beloved to me.
The appearance of the real Saint just when the Imperials were on the brink of defeat with Gaunt kneeling in awe and renewed faith, Kolea and Mkvenner both being given a miracle, the intense fight when the Chaos Magister himself arrived, the broadcast that called out Innokenti for having failed to break the Imperials faith and will to fight before the climatic ending with every man, woman, and child rising up to the call of their beloved Saint's call to arms. I could keep going on just for the sheer number of moments this book gave. Now we are done with the Saint Arc, next up the Lost Arc. The gut punches are a coming.
THIS!!!
PURE PROPAGANDA!!!
The whole fact of the Magister Enok Innokenti was attacking with such a force to begin with was one of the exact reasons why the Saint refused to leave Herodor for Morlond as she told Gaunt near the end of the battle. For if had she left the world for the Warmaster then, the flanks and rear of the Crusade would have still been under assault and more than likely cut off dooming the Crusade to complete and utter defeat. But, by staying on Herodor and forcing one of the Archenemies most infamous and notorious leaders to commit an army near a million strong with hundreds of thousands of armor support and backed by a sizable fleet to an insignificant world, the momentum of the Chaos advance was stalled and blunted which also allowed news to be reported back that the Warmaster had finally taken Morlond and send much needed reinforcements to Herodor bringing one of the greatest threats to the Imperial forces to a hard and bloody halt. The most significant and celebrated victory in the entire Crusade during its darkest years.
The magister looking at a 4 meter tall walking tank: "This is one of the 9 best assassins I can find"
If eversors can be assassins, the I don't mind a dreadnought to be.
he had a living saint to kill, you know...
And Karess was infiltrated superbly, BP sappers dug him a route into city underground and while imperials were fighting above, he slowly made his way to saint inner sanctum
Dan Abnett has got a thing for Chaos Dreadnoughts showing up in wierd places far from the Chaos Marines...
Assassins dont necessarily need to be stealthy, just kill their target. By their very nature that means most have to be, but in a warzone, an assassin could be a Tank Crew, or a sniper, or a rampaging goliath of flesh and drugs induced into rage.
Perhaps he read about the famed Steiner Scout Squad that uses Atlas mechs... for reconnaissance. After all, if everyone and everything that saw you is converted into a giant burning crater before you move on, it totes counts as stealth.
Not going to lie, the death of Colm Corbec nearly made me cry.
I think the 19th platoon got an even shorter end of the stick:
"Nineteenth platoon were about five hundred metres from Old Hive's north entrance when they saw the gates close.
Skerral stopped in his tracks, and pulled the men up. Half his unit were dead. He ejected a cell from his lasrifle and slammed in a new one.
"Come on," he said, turning back to face down the slope at the waves of assault sweeping in. "Let's see how many we can kill."
The remnants of nineteenth lasted seventeen minutes from the times the gates closed. They accounted for one hundred and eight-nine enemy casualties. No one witnessed their heroism."
it made us all cry :( Every time I re read the books, and Cuu comes up, I have such deep loathing.
@@ondrejsedlar7003 Yeah that was extremely badass. The Emperor knows his own.
@@tbone9474This book had several badass and heroic moments from so many characters.
@Rockcrusher22895 the bit where the Mandrake felt completely vulnerable as Mkoll tracked him was so well written, especially after the sequences dedicated to his skills.
“What a profoundly bleak and inhospitable cosmos you inhabit, colonel-commissar. No wonder you fight so much.”
― Dan Abnett, The Saint
Ahh the one time a human outstealthed a Dark Eldar Mandrake... I love this series
Still one of the most badass moments by Oan Mkoll
This is a world with an active imperial saint! Anything is possible for the faithful
tbh it was published in the days of old lore when Mandrakes were not the living shadow demons but regular bald dark eldar assassins.
Mkoll still was savage calling this dark eldar "Pretty good"
It’s super dumb, that’s what it is
@@frankthetank8050 oh yeah cause the guard is treated with the utmost respect in 40k and in a galactic sized military one guy doing something ridiculous one time in an army noone expects anything from is real dumb note the sarcasm
With how useless the imperial navy is in both vraks and heredor, it's a miracle that battlefleet gothic does it's job.
It's pretty clear from anytime he mentions ships Dan Abnett has never read any of the Battlefleet gothic books and has no idea how the Imperial Navy functions either in lore or the tabletop, his ship classes are all over the place, the tactics make no sense and the respective power of ships swings wildly. Honestly to a BFG Imperial Fleet player like me, most of his ship sections are just painful
"So we have this scouting force of 100 meter long fighters with on-board astropaths..."
-Dan Abnett
I hate when void battles are 2 min slug fest.
This is Why Battlefleet Solar is constantly parceling itself out to various war zones; show the Ametures how it's Done.
@@maddlarkin Correct. He had no idea how to wright void battles. He just used the as a bridge to ground action. Thankfully he kept the pain short.
Imperial campaigns and crusades' of billions of troops.
GW writers: Best i can do is 20 men and plot armor.
The Imperial Navy response in this story really does prove Dan Abnett while generally a good writer has absolutley zero idea how the Imperial Navy functions, it's ship classes the differences between them or even really a concept of void combat in the 41st Millennium, if you want a better depiction of how the Imperial navy should function look no further than the Ciaphas Cain Novel Traitors Hand which presents a almsot idential naval situation and a far more accurate naval response, Sandy Mitchell at least taking the time to learn the actual names of the ship classes instead of just making up tonnage grades
Arch's slow description of the goofy ass Imperial navy command was painful while i am doing paperwork
Biagi (the commander of Civitas Beatis) is secretly a genius strategist. Especially in the opening battles of the Herodor war, dude was just pulling one UNO reverse card after another😮
He and Creed went to Tactical Genius School together.
These series breakdowns are as good if not better than what'd you find on the history channel
Plus the battle in space was as crazy an opening as the opening chaos attack at vervun hive
Blood Pact Solider, watching the Baneblade get filleted by the Living Saint while his platoon is routed by peasants with clubs, knives and revolvers screaming praises to the Emperor - "Is this what it's like?! Is this what the Imperials go through when fighting us when we have a Deamon Prince to lead us?! I can see why they F'ing hate it!!"
The Glory of Cadia getting rammed is some glorious foreshadowing of future events 🤣
Loved your presentation of Corbec, touching
Berengaria before the fleet arrives: “Hmph! Who does he think he’s talking to! I’m not a lowly frigate! I’m a light cruiser! 😤”
Berengaria after the fleet arrives: “Help me! I can’t hold them off on my own! I’m just a mere frigate! 😭”
48:02 Also that the Adeptus Sororitas wasn't supposed to be founded for 1-2000 Years after the Saint "First" died yet he's talking to a Battle Sister, smh. Ugh Dan Abnett's being Dan Abnett at times...
If you ever wonder what Abnett thinks of greater 40k lore, rest assured, he does not.
Keep it up Arch. Your videos are top notch in the Warhammer lor verse.
still my fav 40k youtuber . may the emperor protect
This came out of the blue but Cheers Arch, was prepared my gas mask today for Vraks... 😅
The Saint was using God-Emperor cheat codes.
Should have placed stealth space mines around the planet at strategic locations assigned to navy vessels. And how the hell is there a fire in a space ship that can simply open itself up to vacuum able to spread? Clearly, the entire naval task force needs a dose of the emperor’s mercy for falling for such a ridiculous ruse.
Depending on where the fire IS it would be impossible to just expose that area. Not because of the safety of the crew or the lower deck riffraff, no just physically impossible. Even the smallest Navy vessels are huge by our standards
Imagine the fire is in the kitchen. How many rooms would need to be sealed and vented just to get to that room.
Yea! just like those dumb modern boats, burning up when they're sitting on top of water!
A Sword Class Frigate is around 1600 meters long, the Yamato was a bit more than an 8th of that.@ThePyrusKnight
@@elysiankentarchy1531 Guess I should have worded that as "The Imperial Navy's vessels smallest vessels are huge by our standards, huh?"
24:56 strange, that. Everyone else in this series has shields coming out of their ass.
48:40 the Colonel Commissar is belessed obviously!
Ah, more lore to relax to. Thanks Arch
The Warmachine was a Dreadnaught?! I thought it was an obliterator, I guess I remembered wrong
Dad; Why are your eyes red?
Me; Uh, I've been smoking weed?
Dad;...you were thinking about Corbec again, weren't you?
Me; *Tears up* Yes...
McConnell " you were good kid, real good. But as long as im here youll always be second best"
Ugg. Some authors have no idea how to write 40k space warfare. Ships don't die this fast 40k. Arch does his best to cover it well and does a good job. But the source work is pure stupid for reader suspense sake.
Well if something smallish managed to get hit by the plasma Macro batteries and dorsal lances at point blank range (ie close enough for visual range via bridge zoom lens) From a Retribution Class Battleship it would probably die fast if most the shots landed.
@cnlbenmc I was thinking of the small gap in the shields. Then bam! Dead. Which isn't how void shields work and that was big damn ship. So... I'm calling BS. Or the one fighter into a magazine elevator into the whole magazine into half the ship missing. Lol. It's laughable. But hey we had to imperial the planet so eh... Whatever. Like I said the author of those books had no idea how to wright void battles.
+@@Maximum_Bacon+ Somehow i forgot to include the part with the Retribution Class Battleship but fixed it.
And yes Holes in Void Shields aren't supposed to be a thing; either an entire layer is up or it's gone and needs to recharge plus most ships have at least 2 layers. I think I heard that they can "flicker" if something is wrong with it/on the verge of giving out completely or is of a poor design but that's not what a Proper Void Shields are supposed to be. Dan's got a wierd thing with shields in the Sabbat Worlds Crusade...
@@cnlbenmcHe has the same problems with them in his titan book, he just doesnt know how they are supposed to work. Or doesnt care.
Love it Arch. I literally book the book down when I read Corbecs death, Abnett really made you hate Cuu so much. Well done.
However one small nit pick/correction. Hark didnt use a bolt pistol, it waa a plasma pistol that killed the Loxatl. The plasma pistol is one of Harks signatures and was prized possession.
Also wish you would have given brief mention of the tragic scene of Hark handing Soric over to the inquisition
56:30
(Mackeroth perpetually holding the face palm. Using Integra voice.) (probably)
"So that's your field report, Gaunt?"
"Yup."
"You actually didn't complain about the flame thrower stigmas?"
"Nope."
"You took orders?"
"Yup."
"You actually followed their orders?"
"Yup."
"And the literal moment they gave you your flame throwers back, you ordered your men to burn their most holy fountain of sacred waters?"
"Totally..."
"What do you have to say for yourself?!?!"
"It was an awesome crab boil?"
The epilogue in the carpentry always makes a mess of me.
I swear to God Emperor the Revenant is the most plot armor-y ship in this universe.
It "got a lucky hit" on a HEAVY CRUISER'S shields, and then exploited it before a GRAND CRUISER could recover its shields or respond with an overehelmingly superior return volley?
Also...got a lucky hit? Really? On SHIELDS? Void shields are energy derrived. You have to completely drain out the reserves and short the void shield generators before they fail. You DO NOT "get aclucky shot and punch through them".
The revenants are just variants of Carnage Class cruisers as far as I know. Even if both of them coordinated their firepower on the Grand cruiser it should have annihilated one betore its shields collapsed, much less taken critical damage and exploded.
I wonder how informed Dan Abnett was on ships and void battles in 40K?😅
Nice been using the blod pact iwo jima pic ac background for years now still awsome
My impression about Dark Eldar. Is that they avoid Chaos when ever they can. Out of shear fear of she who thirsts. So some one must be real desperate for Dark Eldar to show up here.
Gaunt and his ghosts are favored by the Saint. That is literally the only explanation.
Guten Morgen, Notification Squad
Tachauch
This was beautiful. The entire time while listening I wanted to play this in a Dawn of War I RTS format. Heredor in particular would make a fantastic campaign, filled with interesting scripted events, branching paths, champion units, and even bosses for both sides.
Why hasn't GW commissioned the entirety of the Sabbat World Crusade be made into a game? Why does GW hate money?
Glory of cadia being hit by a big object is so ironic
Sure as Sure.
Hark doesn't have a bolt pistol. He has a plasma pistol. Its like his whole thing. It would be like saying Larks having a heavy stubber, or Gaunt having a power maul.
defending a saintess from assassins at the cost of many of your men that's soldiering
Some random late night, a writer found a cockroach trapped in his dishwashing sink, unable to crush he had to result to opening the hot water tap and watching the poor cockroach going out the most excruciating way, in the process a bright idea presented itself to him, how to destroy a most annoying intruding chaos dreadnought very intuitively...😅
So why did the Chaos boys not immediately initiate indiscriminate orbital bombardment the moment they’d achieved orbital supremacy? Why land troops? I thought the Blood Pact were supposed to be professionals.
Arch explained in the video, the Chaos Forces had to be sure that they got the Saint and for that they need the body. An orbital bombardment would not have achieved that and there would have been no way of knowing for sure that they got the Saint.
If they bombarded then the hope that the Saint escaped would still be there and they wouldn't have achieve much. But if they succeeded in the Assassination and were able to broadcast that fact, then Morale of the entire Crusade could have been shattered, potentially winning the entire conflict for Chaos.
@@Sinsystems The Imperium could easily just say "that's a random girl's corpse you dressed up in golden power armor" and Chaos could, in fact, just do that. Also it's easy to confirm she's dead if you bomb the world so hard it kills literally everything on it, like Tanith.
Failing that, they should at least have immediately carpet-bombed the city the moment they realized Imperial reinforcements they couldn't overcome were breaking Warp. Khorne cares not from where the blood flows, and the men on the ground were dead at that point anyway.
@@akuinator6350The thing is you cant confirm a kill even with extermanatis grade weapons. Ahriman along with at least 10 (thats the number of named ones the book implied it was more but is fuzzy with any real numbers) sorcerers, and at the least dozens of rubric marines dodged cyclonic torpedoes launched at the planet they were standing on. On top of that imagine the value to the dark gods that desecrating a saint or their remains would have, it would be a fast track to power, possibly up to the point of Daemonhood, and it would give your armies an immensely powerful unholy lodestone. Actual warp fuckery for your troops could be pulled from her body via rituals to the dark gods.
@@akuinator6350They did not bomb the city after hearing about the imperial reinforcments because at that point Magister Inokenti himself was in the city. And he didn't believe himself expendable.
@@JonasDerkum The Magister was already dead by the time they got there.
mazdamundi ep1 reupload plz... missing lord mobility scooters lore is a shame
A Interaction for the Interaction God, a Comment for the Comment Throne, for the Almighty Algorithm
A great series!
The Magister losing to the saint makes sense. After all, that's what happens when you try to duel a greater demonhost.
Love the book. So we'll written
*Reads about the fate of the Imperial battleship and flips table*
I never, EVER wwnt to hear one PEEPNout of you chaos fanboys about the IMPERIUM getting bullshit plot armor.
The writers just used plot points from Star Wars film to give Chaos a clean victory (one miraculous hit that happens to bullseye the bridge snd thus CRIPPLE a gargantuan ship (because they would NEVER have a backup command center) and a couple random fighters flying through all defenses and into a hanger to make the ONE SHOT that effectively annihilates the target.
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If ONE imperial pilot did that and crippled or destroyed a famous Chqos battleship you bastards would scream bloody murder. Don't lie.
I agree with you - hence why the author who wrote that is known to be very very poor at the job or writing space battles, as that means of destroying the battleship was indeed... very painful to hear...
Comments for the comment gods.
Saints are nothing to play at and wreck many big bosses.
No procedures in-place to "backoff if anything unusual happens" ???
To be honest, if a raging fire suddenly vanished from a distressed ship, I'd back my ship off without caring if my own docking equipment may end up damaged, and immediately transmit a request for backup - relaying the unusual occurrence and wanting confirmation from another ship.
I know she’s being show with them in the art but did the Saint have wings?
Clearly she was a bit of a puppet at first and I assume didn’t have wings. Was there a point where she gained them?
Never ceases to frustrate me how we have such cool female characters in 40k & yet ignorant tourists still harp on with the same lazy bs. The reincarnated Saint Sabbat is a literal Angel of the Emperor, whose mere presence is able to rally broken soldiers and unarmed civilians in to victory, filling their hearts with righteous fervour & whose own combat prowess is capable of taking down powerful Chaos champions.
I love the first and only
*PROTECT THE SAINT*
incompetence of the imperials never ceases to amaze me 6:1 for chaos I guess. having cheat codes for the rules of the universe helps
edit: I got to the first day of city fighting and arch describes it as a good day for imperials? lol my country's military doctrine suggests a ratio of 7:1 when attacking enemy strong points(if equally matched technologically) the fact Blood Pact managed to achieve multiple breakthroughs while outnumbered 2:1 really says something. 120k bp should obliterate the city in days.
It happens....
The enemy will pay for all the martyrs they have made
Upon testing, it takes 60s for the AI to yeet a comment..
Until we get an AI that can read context and take a joke, this is a terrible idea and the amount of nuance this thing misses is ridiculous.
I've seen people writing the most horrible things and they get through, but I can't make a joke? Am I flagged specifically or something?
nice
First hour gang rise up!
Why didn't the Chaos forces simply just destroy the city from obit and THEN send down soldiers to make sure that the saint was dead?
Finding a single body in a massive city you bombed into rubble, presuming the body even exists, is like finding a needle in a dozen haystacks.
ah yes imperial saint #DEFINATELY not a demon
@Arch fix the playlist pls
Today I learned you can't post the founding fathers copypasta meme, even edited for 40k jokes.
I got three attempts to post it auto-deleted by the AI comment czar.
Henlo
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There is only men
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Considering how much the Chaos forces got the "Just As Planned" success in space, never understood how the Chaos forces not just bombed from orbit and then swept over the remains of the Imperial forces with mass landings and also the assassins.
Arch already explained this in detail.😅 They wanted to present evidence that she was dead to the Crusade.