Hey everybody! Just to clear something up, I totally appericate the feedback about blurring out the missing children's faces. The reason I've decided to partially blur their faces was because I felt conflicted about blurring Bebop's face but showing photos of children that many claimed "looked exactly like her." In any other situation I would/will be sure to show a missing person's face to spread awareness. But I hope that clears things up a bit! Also- I don't think anybody else who has shown Bebop's face is bad.. I just felt more comfortable blurring her face due to her young age and the circumstance. If you're reading this, have a great day! Edit*** also I’m sorry for mispronouncing the movie title “Encanto” as “Enchanto.” It was an honest mistake that I wasn’t even aware of until it was pointed out so thank you for correcting me!
Seeing Ava's father coming to tears at simply getting attention for her case. PLEASE can we use these terrible apps for more good? Get the faces of missing children out there?
That would be the worst thing. Then you have every teenager who see someone who looks a little like the missing person and they are flooding the lines and preventing real tips from going through.
@@harrisonhurst6480 I mean yeah that could happen but tips going to the investigators is only part of the reason why having cases like this more publicized is essential, because having it in the public eye puts pressure on authorities to not just brush a case under the rug and pushes them to keep working towards finding victims. A lot of times authorities just don’t prioritize this type of stuff and that’s why bringing it to the public eye can make a world of difference
@@Emily-pp3yd You should really research some data as to what actually happens when Tip lines and big public alerts go up. Most of the time they end up doing more harm than good.
UPDATE ON THE STORY: for anyone watching this who might not know, the first missing girl (Aranza Maria Ochoa Lopez) was found in February of this year in Mexico, and she was kidnapped by her mother. so clearly that is out of the picture. but it's great news to know that Aranza is ok now
I feel so horrible for poor Ava's dad. I saw a clip of him commenting on this conspiracy theory and the fact that it has to give him just so much hope only to find out that it's more than likely not true has just got to be crushing he still reported it to the police but he was just in tears while he was commenting on it in his video and it was just so sad. I'm a mom of a six-year-old girl and if anything happened to her it would just be the end of me.
I think she's just being exploited. Her mom is living her dream life through her, the pageants, studio room, heavy makeup and costumes. I bet when she's old enough her mom will put her in cheerleading or something similarly popular. Honestly, she's not doing anything worse than parents of child moive stars. Not that I'm making excuses for her.
Yaaaa I think that people assuming right off the bat that these two are kidnapped totally infantilizes the mom. If they are both victims this speculation is pretty shitty of me to make, but let's me honest, this woman looks like a narcissist. I have very little doubt she just had a kid and decided somewhere along the way to use her as a prop to stir the pot on the internet. If they were actually kidnapped their captor wouldn't be letting them post videos and they would be HEAVILY scrubbed for the sort of evidence presented in the videos. I think the amount of time spent on this one theory, the kidnapping theory, is indicative of the age of the audience. The kids commenting on these videos wouldn't imagine a mom victimising their child for views, but they can imagine some scary stranger forcing them and their loved ones to do things against their will, since that shows up more in pop media.
If they were kidnapped, why would they respond to the comments saying “wear red if you need help”? Wouldn’t the abductor(s) notice? Surely they don’t have full control of their account if that’s the case.
its literally """just""" a mother exploiting her own child for money and clout, but people dont think this is bad enough on its own so they want there to be more drama and are involving a family whos missing their child to play pretend investigator(which causes so much pain to the family still searching) when the women dont even look to be the same race. this is just another case where ppl online want even worse things to be going on in peoples lives bc its more entertaining to them than """simple""" child exploitation. i fr think many of these people dont actually give af about her daughters safety since they are just ignoring the obvious situation and just are allowing and literally supporting child exploitation whether they know it or not to extend the duration of this made up story they find entertaining. these people should feel ashamed for causing multiple families more unneeded suffering and false hope just because they think its a fun game, im sure they will accuse more ppl of crimes in the future and drag in even more families who are missing their children, im glad that at least one childs case got more attention but it got that for all the wrong reasons which means most ppl will stop caring about this child once it no longer "fun" dont know why its "not enough" that this child is being exploited by her mother, youd figure ppl would care about this and not need/want worse things to be happening to this child to care
I feel like people are so gullible to think the mother is a victim, if they were really kidnapped do you think they’d be able to read comments? And the kidnapper wouldn’t? Lol, this woman is just a tiktok version of those pageant moms and she is exploiting her child on her own free will. I do think she’s playing into the kidnapping conspiracy tho, which is gross.
Depending on the circumstances a trafficking victim can be allowed outside with a 'curfew' or allowed to attend school etc under threat of harm of they speak up The amount of makeup on the child + extremely weird props like collars makes me suspicious this is an 'above-web' advertisement or that the mother would do stupid sh*t like take 'innocuous' requests for niche content clips like pies in face/toy slime dumping unfortunately.
@CerberusWolfe no, I have friends that cosplay and wear alt fashion that got their communities through Tiktok. I also follow a lot of cool science and history Tiktoks. I’ve curated my Tiktok to have a great algorithm for me. If you have distasteful Tiktoks on your for you page, that’s kinda on you and what you watch most. My algorithm is mainly science, veterinary life, pets, cosplay, alt fashion, and anime.
In the very least, all social media needs to put up restrictions on children creating monitized content. There needs to be regulations put in place, similar to what child actors have, but better. To think that some of these parents are making tons of money, but these kids will likely never see a $ after 18, along with any exploration, mental distress, etc, is pretty depressing.
Bebe is definitely just a stage mom trying to live her life through her daughter. Its bad enough being a stage parent, but its quite sickening that she seems to play into the kidnapping conspiracies too.
I always though that they weren't really kidnapped but the mom does exploit the child for views which is messed up. Thank you for making this video to clarify stuff!
If that's the case it's disgusting. Because the adult outfits are horrible. But I wonder why they wore the help colours. Maybe it was for views or what?
For people to keep comparing that girl to that actual missing girl is so unfair and disgusting on the family of that little girl.. The only true "conspiracy" with Bebop is that her mom is using her cuteness to make money off her and she's living vicariously through her, she's obviously older than she wants people to believe (hence the "bruising", it's just age) so she tries to be cute and quirky. All she's doing is just feeding ped*files (misspelling deliberate).
I've followed the story for a while and I never thought they were kidnapping victims, but I definitely have always thought the mother is exploiting her child and is knowingly catering to online predators. It wouldn't be surprising if the mother knows that a lot of their views and subscribers come from either predators, people concerned about the well-being of her children, conspiracy theorists, or trolls, and the mother is just playing all of those things up for clout.
I also really think that she uses fake names for her and her child because she thinks it justifies catering to online predators. Convincing herself that since she isn't sharing her child's actual identity, she isn't putting her daughter in any real and physical danger. While being completely unaware, or just not caring that the child is eventually going to grow up and learn what kind of people were watching her as a child and for what reasons. And God forbid she is ever associated with her mom's exploitative accounts once she is old enough to have and manage her own social media. Most, if not all, women using social media have had at least a handful of disgusting messages sent to them by total strangers, and that's without them first being exploited in this way as a child. Just imagine the absolute tidal wave of harassment she will have to deal with as an adult, should her identity ever be revealed. It's honestly heartbreaking, cus she's not old enough to consent to being in the public eye in this way.
What truly breaks my heart about Ava's dad is how hopefull he sounds, this conspiracy is total bs but at least it's making him hope that his missing child will someday be found. What I'm scared of is that when people realize they are not the same girl they will ditch Ava's story, going to find their next victim just like they did with the other girl. When that moment happens don't let her story die, we need to make people aware of her existence so on some lucky day one person will find her and she will return with her dad, same with Aranza, we should help their families to find them, not spread false rumours that could seriously damage parents of missing children.
@@epic7224 The mother is wanted for taking the daughter after the father was to win full custody of Ava. David(father of Ava) and Katie(mother of Ava) aren't married.
@@Hatsune-Miku_Fan So.. you think people should just go ahead and keep exploiting their child like this? Why, after everything you've heard about them? Plus, assuming you watched the video.
The way that Payton is slow blinking on the apology video is blatantly a call for help too, I hope he gets the strength to tell a trusted person like a teacher or police who can help
People need to STOP giving families of missing children false hope with these BS conspiracies. Do they not know how much harm they’re doing? This isn’t just tiktok, this is real life and these are real people. I’m glad that more people are familiar with these missing moms and children, but people need to stop contacting the family with false tips.
Conspiracy theories, especially conspiracy theories that say that about missing people is just overall one of the most idiotic, and evil thing to do. There was a tiktok that futured a girl, and people started spreading that she is a missing person, to the point of that the missing girl's family had to say that, this girl is not they daughter. And also in tiktok there was a conspiracy theory about a online casino website kidnaps people, and forcrs them to work for them. They reasoning? Because the website is not awelable in the USA. When it toke me a quick search learn that online gamblering is ilegal in the USA. In my country there was a young man, who went missing, and he is still haven't been found sainc. And multiple people called his family (his elderly parents, and his brother) saying that they know where they son is. There were people who litrurely tried to scem them this way. In this case, I can see that people went to help this little girl, but even if there are good intentions, it's still does more harm then good. (Sorry for the grammar, and spelling mistakes, English is not my first language.)
It's not all bad news. It lets the family know that people are still looking & remember their missing loved one. This is my point of view as someone who has a missing family member. My missing family member is now presumed dead due to age.
Conspiracy? Idk, to me Christina and the mom in the videos look like exactly the same person and I refuse to hear any arguments to the contrary. I just can't imagine them being two different people, unless it's a fabled doppelganger situation. Besides, in any case, this helps give the case attention as TehMimi said and makes it much more likely that someone out there will recognize them and bring them back safely (if they are somehow in danger).
This is so heartbreaking, not only do we have yet another TikTok child who's being exploited by a narcissistic parent but we also have a 16 year old boy who's being isolated and silenced by that same parent AND we have missing girls who's tragic stories are being lost in speculation and conspiracy theories. I don't like this Chrissy 😢
the boy needs to apply for emancipation, and move TF out of there. it's just horrible, what his mother does to him. she's been demoted to "evil stepmother" status.
@@soyunperedor i feel so bad for this boy. how does forcing him to say he lied about being forced prove anything?? if anything it just made me completely certain that she is forcing these kids to make content
I think her mom has a pretty strong visual resemblance, because I had the same thought. (Though I think this is more of a bad combination of a negligent-mother and child-who-doesn't-know-any-better. The mom is definitely pushing it, but it does seem like the little girl _does_ have interest in it. Probably a lot like the pageants.)
@@Ilovepink4lyfe14 Yeah. Sometimes "internet to the rescue!" isn't always the best plan. Venus needed tangible, real-world services and support, not _just_ separation from her mother. It's really heartbreaking to see.
If they were kidnapped, don't you think the bolt lock would be OUTSIDE the bedroom? Why would a kidnapper allow their victim to lock themselves in a room? Speakers in a bedroom are normal
@@gayrobloxgirl Family of five kids were making family vlog channels with a heavy focus on pranks. Dad had two kids with one woman, divorced her and kept custody of the kids, then married another woman with two older boys. The pranks got increasingly worse and the step brothers were encouraged to beat Cody (dad's biological kid) who was on the autism spectrum. The pranks got legitimately abus!ve, and Cody was starting to have full breakdowns on camera. Eventually, Cody and his sister's biological mother got custody of them again. Now Cody and the sister are safe, and Dad got banned off of TH-cam. Edit: The part where the internet kinda "saved" the kids was by raising awareness and trying to contact the biological mom.
the "bruising" looks more like they're from age or allergies. that skin under and around the eyes is pretty sensitive and is more prone to flakiness and drying out as you get older. I think that plus her foundation as well as the lighting of the video makes it look like bruises.
Seriously. It looks like normal aging. The mom just uses crazy filters to cover it up most of the time. Her awful nose contour makes her look dirty, aka "bruised," and her undereye circles are just that -- undereye circles that most women get or have, especially as they age. The internet warriors need to stop thinking everything is a conspiracy. They're not actually trying to help anyone, they're giving false hope to parents of children who have actually gone missing, and they do it all so they can satisfy their gross savior complex.
Kids also just bruise quite a lot, especially if they're paler. I know I did a lot as a kid. Though I wouldn't put it past this mother to be faking bruises for the views tbh. Also yeah, lighting can be weird
About Peyton, I think he turned 18 and either was disowned or he basically disowned them. Him not having any socials could be a thing of him not wanting to be found :/
I feel bad for her brother too, he clearly does not want to be involved in whatever this woman has got going on in her brain and is trying to live out through her daughter. He wants to be a normal teenage boy and I imagine that’s so humiliating for him knowing his friends could see that stuff, hence why he doesn’t want to show his face. The amount of disrespect for your own child and their boundaries is astounding
I believe that it'll become more and more of a problem as time goes on. It's so easy to get attention by doing things that are wrong, than doing things the normal way. It's already getting hard telling things apart from being real and being staged or for clout.
Tbh with stuff like this, I’m not sure it entirely matters if it’s real or staged. Obviously there’s a difference still but either way the kid is being exploited, just potentially in different ways.
Now where I agree with you in 90% of this what I dont agree with is "let him live his life" NO FKIN WAY!!! As mom of 3 teen girls no no no! She is beyond exploiting her daughter and yes it's gross. Agreed full heartedly but taking away social media or the internet is her prerogative and is a PRIVILEGE. It's a privilege to have a cell phone, tablet or even the internet. Its an awkward double standard to have since her daughter is allowed but not the son but end item she is the mom and is giving her kids tons of attention, a clean home, tons of toys and affection. If the internet minded their own business none of this would be more than a cringe situation of her having her daughter "be on" for entertainment of others. The pervs have taken this and done god knows what but that's put of her control. I would and do raise my kids differently but to say let her TEENAGER have his way and live his life... no babe just no!
yea, with more and more people staging kidnaps for fame, using signals that actually helped people in danger, if someone actually in danger uses those signals, people wouldnt believe it due to people watering it down to a simple thing to gain attention.
My first thoughts when I heard the whole “kidnapping” theories was Marina Joyce and Kate Yup and how those theories basically threw them into the spotlight. I’m honestly so tired of it. Why would a kidnapper post videos online of their victims? Why would they let them edit the videos (such as when Kate Yup adds the HELP message in the subtitles)? Wouldn’t they catch on if they saw them wearing a certain color the comments asked for? And even if they did people would be suspicious regardless if they did wear the colors (“omg they’re in trouble”) or didn’t (“the kidnapper won’t let them”). Not only does this take away focus from the actual problem, in this case child exploitation, but also causes people to make lofty comparisons to actual missing peoples case as we’ve seen here. Yes it might bring more attention to them but for all the wrong reasons with people being interested in them all because of a baseless and overused rumor
How stupid does one have to be to believe that a kidnapper would allow them to wear a color someone says to wear or say something specific if they need help? Seriously 🙄
It reminds me of that one Twitter account back in 2014 that "predicted" the results of each World Cup match (in reality just tweeting every conceivable possibility while keeping the account private and then un-privating the account only AFTER the results were known and deleting all of the previous tweets except the ones that turned out true to make it seem like they actually predicted it).
Right?! Like, are the kidnappers giving them acess to a phone/tablet/computer to read through the comments, and also chose their outfits? Or are the kidnappers choosing the outfits based on these comments? And the one that listed like 6 common clothing colors, and they, shocker, wore one, the comment _right above_ said "put a :) funny:) in your next video if you're in danger". There were 14k+ comments, how many more like that do you bet there were? But the person pointing it out was like "if that's not the most telling thing I don't know what is"
I agree, If there is or was a 'Kidnapper', He/She would have saw the comments and seen how they are trying to get help, And then when it was the right moment he/she would have killed them because they were trying to get help. (This is just what i think and i dont fully agree with the kidnapper thing.)
One thing I really appreciate about your channel is that you blur the child’s face this is great. As the parent(s) won’t do it. Thank you. Okay I don’t want to sound annoying but thank you for 227 likes thank you. Just one last edit the only thing is that I would have wished that the picture of the missing children should have been unblocked but that’s fine.
@@buzzingdive I know what you meant and I completely agree. It’s just upsetting that this would have been a good way to get the missing girls face out there too :/
There needs to be laws passed to regulate children being used for online content. I guarantee these children will come out as adults about just how horrific and traumatic things were for them
I completely agree. They aren’t aware of what’s happening, most kids don’t even realize the depth and power of the internet until they’re in their teen years. I can guarantee that later in life they aren’t going to be happy to see how much of their life has been posted online. There’s absolutely no reason parents should be allowed to exploit and use their kids like this for content and monetary gain, same goes for family channels.
Yeah it's messed up. I believe that just like how kids can't consent to adult activities until they reach a certain stage and are fully developed, they can't consent to having their life on display every waking hour (and even they sometimes oppose the idea of being filmed but the parent still shoves the camera in his or her face) and it's beyond selfish for the parents to be trying to use them for profit. Like get an actual job FFS. And that's not even mentioning the creepy AF "poses" and "outfits" that they're being made to wear which no child ever should be seen that way, and like TehMimi said, it attracts disgusting attention from really creepy older people
I just hope the kids are safe honestly, with that many followers it can be damaging to their Social life with people their age and then there's the obvious issue with creeps watching the tiktok videos and then people posting private information will put them in so much danger
This is sickening AF, so disturbing. What is this “mother “ thinking? She’s putting that child in grave danger both mentally and physically. Call CPS on this strange family.
Looking at The Brother I was like "So he's the mother's sibling" and then you later confirmed that. Dunno if that's the mother being misleading, some families having weird naming for each other (Like kids who call their grandparents "mom" "dad" because that's what their parents called them you know) or just the people jumping on this conspiracy theory not thinking (which is why they assume a kidnapper would just let people wear the distress signal clothing and not be all over comments if someone was truly kidnapped)
it was so obvious that he was the mom’s brother. i call my grandma’s sister Aunt bc that’s what my mom calls her & there isn’t really a name for that relation, they were clearly doing something similar
I also didn't think it was suspicious at all. People assumed it was Ava's brother. They never said that. And saying "The brother" it's pretty clear he's someone's brother but not necessarily Ava's.
Right! Then when she highlights that she calls him her brother....like duh, she called him brother the whole time. This is the most pointless video I ever listened to. I would have clicked away but I was cooking and just let it play. My son has 3 colored walls and I took him for a haircut after his nap today and he didn't want to be there. According to this video I am a kidnapper who forces my son to do stuff he doesn't want to.... I unsubscribed after this video.
One thing about the choker : how you look at it totally depends on your view on the world. Same thing with cat ears! But, other people, it's not like, 100% sexual. I'm wearing these on daily basis because I'm having alt style, though, I absolutely think that it isn't the best decision to give it to such a young child. Great vid as always, be blessed y'all
While I haven't worn one as thick as that one yk. I've been wearing Claire's chokers since I was 6/7 💀 It only became "s3xual" to people around me a year or 2 ago. Aka when I really started ahem , "maturing". I totally agree
I think it's just so different considering the outfits though. I was big into anime at 7 and dressed in cat ears because I thought it was cute lol, but I'd wear them with regular cute clothes, not clothes clearly trying to show my body off. Just the pairing is very clearly icky
Thankfully we're not p3d0s, but sadly those people will look at these videos and her being in a collar and be sick about it. And this mother 10000% knows that
I honestly hope the son gets to 18, gets out of the house, tells his side & is able to save his sister from their mother. It is obvious this mother is exploiting bebop as a cash cow & possibly living through her vicariously.
I feel like the bruises are easy to explain she's a pageant mum she probably got some cosmetic surgery done or it could be just a shadow from under eye bags
That poor father breaks my heart. So beautiful how he can turn something that would usually be seen as disrespectful as such a good thing. His hope is admirable.
this breaks my heart, too. as someone who is still in the prime demographic for tiktok, the "concern" on tiktok for ava and other missing kids is probably not actual concern in my opinion, knowing my age group. some (but maybe not all) of the tiktok users "expressing concern" for ava and other missing children just want to feel important and maybe gain online traction (edit: except for the woman named destiny who surved csa, she seemed very genuinely concerned). or they're bored and this gives them some form of entertainment because much of my generation grew up with a warped sense of the boundary between social media and real life, so the idea doesn't even cross their minds that this could be harmful/cruel to actual parents of missing children and the children themselves. i know this makes me sound like a boomer but i feel like tiktok is seriously messing with the cognitive/emotional development of children. i just hope ava's father can maybe find some amount of peace, though losing a child is something you never truly heal from.
Thank you for covering this! It definitely creeps me out. Also, thanks for debunking a lot of the conspiracies that creators are pulling out of thin air. It goes to show people run with ANYTHING.
I don’t understand the confusion around the brother/uncle thing, like… they share a social media and it just said “my brother,” why the hell would folks think it was the kid’s brother?? Older folks have brothers too, think critically for a second jesus
Thank you! Finally a comment that has some common sense. It's laughable how people don't listen and blow everything out of proportion. Same goes for the "bruising " -- its called normal skin with bad makeup and filters and aging, not abuse. How does the mom's brother equal the child's brother? Everyone just jumps on the bandwagon in a desperate attempt to be a part of something. There is absolutely nothing nefarious going on here other than a mother exploiting her child for money and attention. That's bad enough, but damn, the entire world has lost the ability to think independently.
Idk if it is because I recently heard the audiobook of "I'm Glad My Mom Died" but this relationship remains me A LOT of the relationship Jennette Mccurdy and her mother had
32:22 The dad's crying made me tear up😢😢I hope Ava will be found. I really feel sympathy for the brother and Bebop, the mother is so abusive, I feel trash.
This sounds much like a venus angelic situation, if you don’t know the story the mother would force her child to dress in Lolita type outfits and her mother would dress, film, and control what she did on the internet and off. It’s probably best to call child services on them. Or they could be doing this just for attention.
“What did you lie about” “That I was forced” “SAY IT” like ok????? As if she didn’t just force him to make a video and “confess” to all the things he did
I don't think this child was kidnapped at all. Exploited? Absolutely, yes. Her Mom's coercing her and using her for profit, no matter where or who it's from (telling by the outfits that get put on her, disgusting). The child obviously doesn't know the dangers of having her face online does and is being profited from unfairly. But I don't think pulling the "She's kidnapped" card is good, especially if it gives people false hope.
i’m going to cry 😭 the father for the ava conspiracy really sees the positive on it, i really do hope that it does help their family get closer to finding out to what happened to their love ones.
I'm thankful for you blurring out the little girl's face, seeing her in some of those outfits and skits was disturbing enough and I think as little people as possible should know who she is especially predators, they can still look her up and find her but at least it takes some more effort than just screenshot ting your video
Exactly! If they think it's so wrong and disgusting... Why are people sharing this all over without censoring? It's so disgusting. I only trust TehMimi anymore tbh
Someone: doesn’t smile in a TikTok Everyone: omg they’re kidnapped!?!?!!? They’re not smiling!?!? They’re being forced to do this!?!?!😨😨😨😨😨😱😨😱😨😱😨 Why does everyone always assume someone’s being kidnapped like bro, if they were being kidnapped; they wouldn’t have internet access, such clean appearances and clothes💀 use yall brains omg
ONE TIME ON ONE OF MY TIKTOKS SOMEONE COMMENTED “why do u keep looking up to the left? are u okay? pls do the hand sign for help in ur next vid if something’s wrong :((“ GIRL I WAS WATCHING TV WHILE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING I DREW EARLIER THANKS FOR YOUR CONCERN, BUT I WAS VISIBLY HOLDING THE TV REMOTE AND YOU COULD HEAR THE SHOW IN THE BACKGROUND 💀💀
@@s-agk LMFAO💀 sorry for laughing but wth😭 why is everyone quick to assume someone’s kidnapped like huh? Look at real kidnapped cases, they aren’t found for *days* because they don’t have access to the internet or anyone like what💀
I understand a lot of people's concerns involving Bepop and Bebe, but going as far as to make a claim that the uncle is the kidnapper, it's disheartening, especially at the uncle's perspective
10:58 how could anyone ever think that these two girls look ANYTHING like each other? i looked up the image for myself and compared them and here's the differences that i can list just from a handful of photos of bebop: 1. they have completely different ears. while cosmetic surgery can change appearances drastically, ears are always what you should look at first as a defining characteristic since they're unique for every person and cannot be altered. bebop has very large lobes, slightly out turned ears and thick cartridge ridges from what ive seen as compared with aranza lopez, who has very small ears, small lobes, nearly completed out turned ears and very discreet cartridge ridges. 2. bebop's nose is drastically thinner than aranza's and sits much lower on her face, along with being less upturned at its point. 3. different eye colours. aranza has blue-grey eyes while bebop has hazel-grey eyes. they also have different eye shapes, with bebop's being much more almond shaped and aranza's being quite round. 4. their face shapes are also different! bebop has a defined, square jawline and a square face shap while aranza has a very round face with a less defined chin and much rounder cheeks. 5. their hairlines begin at different places, with bebop's starting much further back on her forehead. i could go on and on about all their differences. yes, i know that the photo of aranza is from 2018 (or perhaps even earlier) so her appearance is probably somewhat different now, but things like facial structure, eye shape, nose shape and especially your ears don't actually change very much at all as you age. it honestly frustrates me how people saw this account and tried to connect it to this poor missing girl's case.
It’s illegal if you get the police involved. But just going along with conspiracy theories on the internet probably not. Morally what she’s doing is wrong but I don’t think it’s illegal.
As a complete aside, the mother looks so unsettling, like she's had too much botox and a nose job? In the age of filters and digital live face altering I hate people trying to do face matchups.
The whole conspiracy that always rears up of "They've been kidnapped and are being forced to make videos!" never makes sense to me. If someone has seriously kidnapped someone and is putting them on camera, they're the person in charge of the social media account. They can SEE the comments. They're not going to allow the potential victims to actually DO things like 'wear red' if they're in danger.
Exactly. Like the kidnapper would have full control of the socials??? How does it make sense someone would kidnap an entire human being successfully and avoid the police only to just let your kidnapped victims do whatever they want to a platform of millions ??? Like what 😂😭🥴 make it make sense
Nice to see your face Mimi, hope all’s well!💖There has to be a team of some seriously sick individuals behind her account - regardless of what the circumstances. Thanks for shining a light on this sickening, disturbing issue.
If they've been kidnapped by someone else, either; A. They control the social media account and could very easily just point black state that they need help B. They don't control the social media, in which case the kidnapper wouldn't actively engage in the "help request signals" from the commenters, giving themselves away would be pointless. More than likely, this is Bebe (or whatever the mum is called) doing it on purposes for the traction they gain by everyone talking about it. What a horrible way to extort your child.
i think it’s a dumb conspiracy and although she may be exploiting her child for views, i HIGHLY doubt she KIDNAPPED her. plus, they literally look alike. i don’t think anyone is in any danger. though, i was shocked to find out that they speak english.
Every time I hear about a social media kidnapping theory I roll my eyes. They always seem to get debunked and besides, who tf would kidnap someone and make them do Tiktoks???
what if bebop's room IS a set and when they're not doing tiktok child pageant vids she's just supremely goth?? like the camera pans over and her room is just coffins and bats and Skullanimals 😂😭
I know this video is a little old but I’ve always wanted to point out the fact the chokers being deemed as a “BDSM accessory” is not exactly true. As a young teen, I remember being in 8th grade (back in 2014) & chokers were becoming a trend again. Clair’s started selling them, not in that exact same fashion she wears, but the fashion she is wearing is primarily worn by the alt community.. not the BDSM. I don’t find that choker primarily immature to wear for her age, but what I do find inappropriate is that she wears heavy makeup that makes her look 10 years older, often making it hard to tell how old she actually may be; but the heavy makeup makes sense considering she is a pageant kid. I am convinced they know exactly what they are doing. They are using this whole “conspiracy” surrounding their account to gain traction and fame. They aren’t in danger and know how gullible people can be; especially when it comes to kids. The only people they are exploiting are the ones naive enough to believe they are actually in danger. They just want fame, money and clout like everyone does nowadays.
Sexualizing chokers has big "no exposed shoulders" energy. If someone finds them "sexy," that's completely on them,and they need to stop projectjng their kinks into people who are just wearing popular fashion
I've always hated the "wear x if you're in danger" comments because if they were being forced to make a video, it's the abductor that is posting it. Also, it would be really stupid if they were a parent who kidnapped their kid to be trying to get TikTok famous because then people will recognize them? but a lot of people on TikTok are either young or they're only seeing a couple videos and don't always know the context. I think the Dad was implying that he doesn't think that's his daughter, but rather that the situation is making people more aware of his daughter and what she looks like so if they actually come across her someday they'll be able to recognize her. He's right that it's a bit of a silver lining, but between the exploitation and faking a kidnapping for clout it's all royally screwed up.
I was right then. For a while, I’ve ignored these theories because, even though at first I believed it be a kidnapping, I saw the time stamps. The brother looks like he is need of desperate help because he knows better and the daughter doesn’t know better. I do believe that room is a set. Seeing toddlers and tiaras a few times put an unsettling tightness in my stomach. Childhood trauma is long term and actually stunts mental growth and maturity. Once the brother is old enough, I want him to take the little girl 100+ miles away from the mother. I also hope the missing children get found. My heart cries out to the father. I see him cry and I can only imagine, knowing how much my fathers loves me and my siblings, the pain and defeated feeling he’s going through. He relies so much on his religion for hope and that’s his hope he holds onto. I hope he keeps holding on to that hope. Having a family member kidnapped gives you a restless worry that is indescribable I’m sure.
I think some of the conspiracy people think it could be the mom being forced, rather than having to come to terms with the fact that some people shouldn't be allowed to have kids and are awful parents.
After seeing a few videos I can conclude that "Bebe" here is a manipulative, controlling similar to a Soccer Mom meets a Toddlers & Tiara's Mother figure but with social media brownie points. Anyone who continues the whole "wear this color if your in danger" are either very young and do not understand whats really going on or are playing along because of the attention. Bebe shouldn't be allow to have any media or any children due to this being a more psychological abuse. I really hope the investigation goes underway because aint no way this should be a thing. it just brings back all the nightmare of Toddlers and Tiara's with a mom claiming she's a Bebe when she's a honey BooBoo or whatever
I'm going to say this loud for the people in the back- STOP EXPLOITING YOUR KIDS FOR CLOUT! GET A JOB. GET A HOBBY GET A THERAPIST It's pathetic and I'm tired of seeing it. You're screwing your kids up. Stop
i gotta say - in my personal opinion - this is the best video you've made in a while. i'v been subbed to this channel for a few years and have liked the vast majority of videos, but it is ones like this that i am here for. well done, Mimi. Thank you.
What bothers me is that the child is named Bebop and the mom Bebe, to me Bebe sounds more like 'baby' and that feels a little weird to me. Based on the body language of Bebop and Peyton, I think the mom is making them make multiple videos a day and that can be exhausting if you don't want to. What also feels icky to me is the mom dressing up/cosplaying in the same child/tween/teen characters (like Junko from Danganronpa and the characters from Turning Red as shown in the video) as the child. I'm not saying that as an adult you can't do cosplay of these characters but in this case it just leaves a weird taste.
Thank you so much for talking about this situation, I never believed that they were “kidnapped” for multiple reasons, people need to understand that everything they see on the inter is not true and that they can’t trust everything. Those poor kids are being exploited for views and money.
The kidnapping story is way too flimsy, instantly didn't buy it. If that were the case they would not have access to the internet let alone a phone. Kidnappers would have nothing to gain by forcing them to make tik toks. Even if that was somehow the case, why would they let them have creative freedom and read comments? Mom is 100% exploiting her poor kids for views. She is perpetuating wildly false allegations, and real victim's families are being drug into it even though they've hurt enough.
I remember that once i saw a video of them in my fyp and it really scared me (even though i had no idea of this whole conspiracy at the time) because it reminded me of that one girl who acted like a doll and it turned out to be her mother controlling her the whole time. Hopefully this time is not as bad or, in the case it is, someone can intervene in time so it doesn't damage her kids life as much.
The kidnapping thing is the Internet being extra. Truth is; this is more like a mother that is exploiting her own child to make money. Scary; Sad & Infuriating tbh.
I sincerely hope that something will be done about these parents exploiting their kids on social media. I don't know if that will come in the form of updated TOS or some sort of legislation, but this is just horribly sad to see happen over and over again.
Thank you so much for making this! I hope this brings so much more awareness to the missing women and girls and that this situation is investigated by police thoroughly!
Hey everybody! Just to clear something up, I totally appericate the feedback about blurring out the missing children's faces. The reason I've decided to partially blur their faces was because I felt conflicted about blurring Bebop's face but showing photos of children that many claimed "looked exactly like her." In any other situation I would/will be sure to show a missing person's face to spread awareness. But I hope that clears things up a bit! Also- I don't think anybody else who has shown Bebop's face is bad.. I just felt more comfortable blurring her face due to her young age and the circumstance. If you're reading this, have a great day!
Edit*** also I’m sorry for mispronouncing the movie title “Encanto” as “Enchanto.” It was an honest mistake that I wasn’t even aware of until it was pointed out so thank you for correcting me!
Btw if you look at the water melon comment it was posted after the video
@@Leightion_Vander-Esch 24:40
About the “Encanto” pronunciation, it’s okay lmao. It just hurt the soul a little but it’s not a HUGE deal.
@@TehMimi my bad thanks for clarification
@@Leightion_Vander-Esch no worries!
Seeing Ava's father coming to tears at simply getting attention for her case. PLEASE can we use these terrible apps for more good? Get the faces of missing children out there?
That would be the worst thing. Then you have every teenager who see someone who looks a little like the missing person and they are flooding the lines and preventing real tips from going through.
@@harrisonhurst6480 I mean yeah that could happen but tips going to the investigators is only part of the reason why having cases like this more publicized is essential, because having it in the public eye puts pressure on authorities to not just brush a case under the rug and pushes them to keep working towards finding victims. A lot of times authorities just don’t prioritize this type of stuff and that’s why bringing it to the public eye can make a world of difference
@@Emily-pp3yd You should really research some data as to what actually happens when Tip lines and big public alerts go up. Most of the time they end up doing more harm than good.
UPDATE ON THE STORY:
for anyone watching this who might not know, the first missing girl (Aranza Maria Ochoa Lopez) was found in February of this year in Mexico, and she was kidnapped by her mother. so clearly that is out of the picture. but it's great news to know that Aranza is ok now
thank god that she is okay. ❤
Is bebop aranza?
@@Bunny_queen143no? That was their point
where did you find this from?
I feel so horrible for poor Ava's dad. I saw a clip of him commenting on this conspiracy theory and the fact that it has to give him just so much hope only to find out that it's more than likely not true has just got to be crushing he still reported it to the police but he was just in tears while he was commenting on it in his video and it was just so sad. I'm a mom of a six-year-old girl and if anything happened to her it would just be the end of me.
Omg what?! This is so heartbreaking and shame on all those people pulling these theories out of thin air giving a family false hope! THIS IS VILE
I don't know what to say but that is disgusting and heartbreaking
I hope your child has a prosperous and amazing life! 👏
@@KirbLePoyoMaster thank you! Everyday I do my absolute best to make sure that happens :-)
@@wornouthoodie I so agree. 100%.
She’s not kidnapped. She’s just being exploited by a horrible mom. Some things really aren’t that deep.
Something something, if you look for red cars you're going to see red cars.
The record played backwards never praised satan.
Being exploited by her mom is still pretty deep.
@@dontgiveupplz Fr
I think the boy as her brother is a pay actor
@@facelessgirl4731 wth
I think she's just being exploited. Her mom is living her dream life through her, the pageants, studio room, heavy makeup and costumes. I bet when she's old enough her mom will put her in cheerleading or something similarly popular. Honestly, she's not doing anything worse than parents of child moive stars. Not that I'm making excuses for her.
Yep. Children sell... Desperate women get crap.
Finally a sane person.
exactly. no conspiracy no kidnapping just looks like a mom exploiting her kid and living through her imo as well.
Yaaaa I think that people assuming right off the bat that these two are kidnapped totally infantilizes the mom. If they are both victims this speculation is pretty shitty of me to make, but let's me honest, this woman looks like a narcissist. I have very little doubt she just had a kid and decided somewhere along the way to use her as a prop to stir the pot on the internet. If they were actually kidnapped their captor wouldn't be letting them post videos and they would be HEAVILY scrubbed for the sort of evidence presented in the videos. I think the amount of time spent on this one theory, the kidnapping theory, is indicative of the age of the audience. The kids commenting on these videos wouldn't imagine a mom victimising their child for views, but they can imagine some scary stranger forcing them and their loved ones to do things against their will, since that shows up more in pop media.
i think she does cheer already
If they were kidnapped, why would they respond to the comments saying “wear red if you need help”? Wouldn’t the abductor(s) notice? Surely they don’t have full control of their account if that’s the case.
thats what i was thinking 😭 but idk i guess britney got away with it
Right
Or maybe wear red cuz they know it will cause even more of a conspiracy and more views
@@yourdarkestfears1134 the mom at least would know that
@@rawcookiedo3245 true, but I think she was caught too.
its literally """just""" a mother exploiting her own child for money and clout, but people dont think this is bad enough on its own so they want there to be more drama and are involving a family whos missing their child to play pretend investigator(which causes so much pain to the family still searching) when the women dont even look to be the same race. this is just another case where ppl online want even worse things to be going on in peoples lives bc its more entertaining to them than """simple""" child exploitation. i fr think many of these people dont actually give af about her daughters safety since they are just ignoring the obvious situation and just are allowing and literally supporting child exploitation whether they know it or not to extend the duration of this made up story they find entertaining. these people should feel ashamed for causing multiple families more unneeded suffering and false hope just because they think its a fun game, im sure they will accuse more ppl of crimes in the future and drag in even more families who are missing their children, im glad that at least one childs case got more attention but it got that for all the wrong reasons which means most ppl will stop caring about this child once it no longer "fun"
dont know why its "not enough" that this child is being exploited by her mother, youd figure ppl would care about this and not need/want worse things to be happening to this child to care
I feel like people are so gullible to think the mother is a victim, if they were really kidnapped do you think they’d be able to read comments? And the kidnapper wouldn’t? Lol, this woman is just a tiktok version of those pageant moms and she is exploiting her child on her own free will. I do think she’s playing into the kidnapping conspiracy tho, which is gross.
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Depending on the circumstances a trafficking victim can be allowed outside with a 'curfew' or allowed to attend school etc under threat of harm of they speak up The amount of makeup on the child + extremely weird props like collars makes me suspicious this is an 'above-web' advertisement or that the mother would do stupid sh*t like take 'innocuous' requests for niche content clips like pies in face/toy slime dumping unfortunately.
TikTok needs to get stricter on what’s allowed when children are involved
it is , but i think they don’t take down bebe and bebop’s vids because there is an adult ( bebe ) in the video 😞
@CerberusWolfe no, I have friends that cosplay and wear alt fashion that got their communities through Tiktok. I also follow a lot of cool science and history Tiktoks. I’ve curated my Tiktok to have a great algorithm for me. If you have distasteful Tiktoks on your for you page, that’s kinda on you and what you watch most. My algorithm is mainly science, veterinary life, pets, cosplay, alt fashion, and anime.
In the very least, all social media needs to put up restrictions on children creating monitized content. There needs to be regulations put in place, similar to what child actors have, but better. To think that some of these parents are making tons of money, but these kids will likely never see a $ after 18, along with any exploration, mental distress, etc, is pretty depressing.
TH-cam won't, why would Tik Tok?
If you hate it so much boycott it!
Bebe is definitely just a stage mom trying to live her life through her daughter.
Its bad enough being a stage parent, but its quite sickening that she seems to play into the kidnapping conspiracies too.
I always though that they weren't really kidnapped but the mom does exploit the child for views which is messed up. Thank you for making this video to clarify stuff!
If that's the case it's disgusting. Because the adult outfits are horrible. But I wonder why they wore the help colours. Maybe it was for views or what?
@@epic7224 most probably they used the colours to get more attention. now we don't know
@@epic7224 probably a messed up way to get clout
Yeah, it seems to be the case. That child should be taken away from her
@@epic7224 it is disgusting putting kids in them outfits because of the amount of Creepy people on Tik tok
For people to keep comparing that girl to that actual missing girl is so unfair and disgusting on the family of that little girl..
The only true "conspiracy" with Bebop is that her mom is using her cuteness to make money off her and she's living vicariously through her, she's obviously older than she wants people to believe (hence the "bruising", it's just age) so she tries to be cute and quirky. All she's doing is just feeding ped*files (misspelling deliberate).
southparkfirefly pedophiles
I've followed the story for a while and I never thought they were kidnapping victims, but I definitely have always thought the mother is exploiting her child and is knowingly catering to online predators. It wouldn't be surprising if the mother knows that a lot of their views and subscribers come from either predators, people concerned about the well-being of her children, conspiracy theorists, or trolls, and the mother is just playing all of those things up for clout.
Spot on. I'm sure she knows. She knows precisely who she's catering to.
Yeah, I was getting some seriously creepy vibes from the room. All those toys and the bed...I guess the mom knows which audience she is catering to...
I also really think that she uses fake names for her and her child because she thinks it justifies catering to online predators. Convincing herself that since she isn't sharing her child's actual identity, she isn't putting her daughter in any real and physical danger. While being completely unaware, or just not caring that the child is eventually going to grow up and learn what kind of people were watching her as a child and for what reasons. And God forbid she is ever associated with her mom's exploitative accounts once she is old enough to have and manage her own social media.
Most, if not all, women using social media have had at least a handful of disgusting messages sent to them by total strangers, and that's without them first being exploited in this way as a child. Just imagine the absolute tidal wave of harassment she will have to deal with as an adult, should her identity ever be revealed. It's honestly heartbreaking, cus she's not old enough to consent to being in the public eye in this way.
What truly breaks my heart about Ava's dad is how hopefull he sounds, this conspiracy is total bs but at least it's making him hope that his missing child will someday be found.
What I'm scared of is that when people realize they are not the same girl they will ditch Ava's story, going to find their next victim just like they did with the other girl. When that moment happens don't let her story die, we need to make people aware of her existence so on some lucky day one person will find her and she will return with her dad, same with Aranza, we should help their families to find them, not spread false rumours that could seriously damage parents of missing children.
The mom is missing too, if it was his wife that's so crappy that he lost them both.
@@epic7224 The mother is wanted for taking the daughter after the father was to win full custody of Ava. David(father of Ava) and Katie(mother of Ava) aren't married.
@@rachelacton6173 wow thats crazy, so she just took the daughter and went missing??
@@epic7224 yep, Ava was visiting her mother when the trial was about to end. That was the last time David(father) saw her(Ava).
@@rachelacton6173 I really hope it means the mother just ran away with her and she's still alive.
Can't believe this sorta child exploitation isn't illegal yet.
Why? What's their reason?
@@Hatsune-Miku_Fan
So.. you think people should just go ahead and keep exploiting their child like this?
Why, after everything you've heard about them? Plus, assuming you watched the video.
@@randomtraveler4149 No, I meant why don't they make it a law? What is their reason for this not being illegal? ;-;
@@randomtraveler4149 It's misunderstanding!!
@@Hatsune-Miku_Fan
im legitimately slow 💀
sorry bout that
And also, no clue
The way that Payton is slow blinking on the apology video is blatantly a call for help too, I hope he gets the strength to tell a trusted person like a teacher or police who can help
People need to STOP giving families of missing children false hope with these BS conspiracies. Do they not know how much harm they’re doing? This isn’t just tiktok, this is real life and these are real people. I’m glad that more people are familiar with these missing moms and children, but people need to stop contacting the family with false tips.
Conspiracy theories, especially conspiracy theories that say that about missing people is just overall one of the most idiotic, and evil thing to do. There was a tiktok that futured a girl, and people started spreading that she is a missing person, to the point of that the missing girl's family had to say that, this girl is not they daughter. And also in tiktok there was a conspiracy theory about a online casino website kidnaps people, and forcrs them to work for them. They reasoning? Because the website is not awelable in the USA. When it toke me a quick search learn that online gamblering is ilegal in the USA. In my country there was a young man, who went missing, and he is still haven't been found sainc. And multiple people called his family (his elderly parents, and his brother) saying that they know where they son is. There were people who litrurely tried to scem them this way. In this case, I can see that people went to help this little girl, but even if there are good intentions, it's still does more harm then good. (Sorry for the grammar, and spelling mistakes, English is not my first language.)
It's not all bad news. It lets the family know that people are still looking & remember their missing loved one. This is my point of view as someone who has a missing family member. My missing family member is now presumed dead due to age.
Conspiracy? Idk, to me Christina and the mom in the videos look like exactly the same person and I refuse to hear any arguments to the contrary. I just can't imagine them being two different people, unless it's a fabled doppelganger situation.
Besides, in any case, this helps give the case attention as TehMimi said and makes it much more likely that someone out there will recognize them and bring them back safely (if they are somehow in danger).
@@Lisa-MarieG They're not looking. They're inserting themselves in a situation for attention
@@markymark443 They look NOTHING alike.
This is so heartbreaking, not only do we have yet another TikTok child who's being exploited by a narcissistic parent but we also have a 16 year old boy who's being isolated and silenced by that same parent AND we have missing girls who's tragic stories are being lost in speculation and conspiracy theories. I don't like this Chrissy 😢
the boy needs to apply for emancipation, and move TF out of there. it's just horrible, what his mother does to him. she's been demoted to "evil stepmother" status.
@@soyunperedor i feel so bad for this boy. how does forcing him to say he lied about being forced prove anything?? if anything it just made me completely certain that she is forcing these kids to make content
This reminds me so much of Venus Angelic and her mum. I can't believe people just willingly exploit their children on the internet, it's sick.
I was just about say this!
I think her mom has a pretty strong visual resemblance, because I had the same thought. (Though I think this is more of a bad combination of a negligent-mother and child-who-doesn't-know-any-better. The mom is definitely pushing it, but it does seem like the little girl _does_ have interest in it. Probably a lot like the pageants.)
Venus Angelic is really messed up now
@@Ilovepink4lyfe14 Yeah. Sometimes "internet to the rescue!" isn't always the best plan. Venus needed tangible, real-world services and support, not _just_ separation from her mother. It's really heartbreaking to see.
Personally reminded me of Marina Joyce, man
If they were kidnapped, don't you think the bolt lock would be OUTSIDE the bedroom?
Why would a kidnapper allow their victim to lock themselves in a room?
Speakers in a bedroom are normal
people really want a kidnapping conspiracy to happen so bad on social media it's weird at this point. when has it ever actually happened.
probably because they want to see themselves as “heroes” who saved a child and have a savior complex. its gross and disturbing
@@gayrobloxgirl People really got hooked on that whole hero thing after Daddy-o-Five happened
@@sleeplessstudios7626 what happened with him again? never heard much of him besides him exploiting his kids. and yea i agree
@@gayrobloxgirl his kids got taken away I think, at least his kids from the previous relationship definitely were
@@gayrobloxgirl Family of five kids were making family vlog channels with a heavy focus on pranks. Dad had two kids with one woman, divorced her and kept custody of the kids, then married another woman with two older boys. The pranks got increasingly worse and the step brothers were encouraged to beat Cody (dad's biological kid) who was on the autism spectrum. The pranks got legitimately abus!ve, and Cody was starting to have full breakdowns on camera. Eventually, Cody and his sister's biological mother got custody of them again. Now Cody and the sister are safe, and Dad got banned off of TH-cam.
Edit: The part where the internet kinda "saved" the kids was by raising awareness and trying to contact the biological mom.
the "bruising" looks more like they're from age or allergies. that skin under and around the eyes is pretty sensitive and is more prone to flakiness and drying out as you get older. I think that plus her foundation as well as the lighting of the video makes it look like bruises.
It could also be from plastic surgery.
@@Avellania also true, good catch.
Seriously. It looks like normal aging. The mom just uses crazy filters to cover it up most of the time. Her awful nose contour makes her look dirty, aka "bruised," and her undereye circles are just that -- undereye circles that most women get or have, especially as they age. The internet warriors need to stop thinking everything is a conspiracy. They're not actually trying to help anyone, they're giving false hope to parents of children who have actually gone missing, and they do it all so they can satisfy their gross savior complex.
Kids also just bruise quite a lot, especially if they're paler. I know I did a lot as a kid. Though I wouldn't put it past this mother to be faking bruises for the views tbh. Also yeah, lighting can be weird
I’m sorry but that pronunciation of “Encanto” is almost enough to make me cry omg
Omg same 😭😭😭 there’s no H
@@F1fangirl96
A quick google search for pronunciation wouldve been so helpful 😭
enchanto😍😍😍😍😍
Lol
Enchanto lol
About Peyton, I think he turned 18 and either was disowned or he basically disowned them. Him not having any socials could be a thing of him not wanting to be found :/
he wouldnt be 18 tho maybe 17
@@tishaprnucedteasha he couldve moved out or got kicked out
I hope those missing people can be found. Tiktok's community seriously need to change. This case is embarrassing and infuriating.
I feel bad for her brother too, he clearly does not want to be involved in whatever this woman has got going on in her brain and is trying to live out through her daughter. He wants to be a normal teenage boy and I imagine that’s so humiliating for him knowing his friends could see that stuff, hence why he doesn’t want to show his face. The amount of disrespect for your own child and their boundaries is astounding
I believe that it'll become more and more of a problem as time goes on. It's so easy to get attention by doing things that are wrong, than doing things the normal way. It's already getting hard telling things apart from being real and being staged or for clout.
Tbh with stuff like this, I’m not sure it entirely matters if it’s real or staged. Obviously there’s a difference still but either way the kid is being exploited, just potentially in different ways.
Now where I agree with you in 90% of this what I dont agree with is "let him live his life" NO FKIN WAY!!!
As mom of 3 teen girls no no no! She is beyond exploiting her daughter and yes it's gross. Agreed full heartedly but taking away social media or the internet is her prerogative and is a PRIVILEGE. It's a privilege to have a cell phone, tablet or even the internet. Its an awkward double standard to have since her daughter is allowed but not the son but end item she is the mom and is giving her kids tons of attention, a clean home, tons of toys and affection. If the internet minded their own business none of this would be more than a cringe situation of her having her daughter "be on" for entertainment of others. The pervs have taken this and done god knows what but that's put of her control. I would and do raise my kids differently but to say let her TEENAGER have his way and live his life... no babe just no!
yea, with more and more people staging kidnaps for fame, using signals that actually helped people in danger, if someone actually in danger uses those signals, people wouldnt believe it due to people watering it down to a simple thing to gain attention.
My first thoughts when I heard the whole “kidnapping” theories was Marina Joyce and Kate Yup and how those theories basically threw them into the spotlight. I’m honestly so tired of it. Why would a kidnapper post videos online of their victims? Why would they let them edit the videos (such as when Kate Yup adds the HELP message in the subtitles)? Wouldn’t they catch on if they saw them wearing a certain color the comments asked for? And even if they did people would be suspicious regardless if they did wear the colors (“omg they’re in trouble”) or didn’t (“the kidnapper won’t let them”).
Not only does this take away focus from the actual problem, in this case child exploitation, but also causes people to make lofty comparisons to actual missing peoples case as we’ve seen here. Yes it might bring more attention to them but for all the wrong reasons with people being interested in them all because of a baseless and overused rumor
I mean the comments suggest every color out there
Yeah these people need to go into the real world and stop making up scenarios online.
How stupid does one have to be to believe that a kidnapper would allow them to wear a color someone says to wear or say something specific if they need help? Seriously 🙄
Literally
Ik-also at this point they can’t wear any color without someone pointing at a comment that says to wear that color
It reminds me of that one Twitter account back in 2014 that "predicted" the results of each World Cup match (in reality just tweeting every conceivable possibility while keeping the account private and then un-privating the account only AFTER the results were known and deleting all of the previous tweets except the ones that turned out true to make it seem like they actually predicted it).
Right?! Like, are the kidnappers giving them acess to a phone/tablet/computer to read through the comments, and also chose their outfits? Or are the kidnappers choosing the outfits based on these comments?
And the one that listed like 6 common clothing colors, and they, shocker, wore one, the comment _right above_ said "put a :) funny:) in your next video if you're in danger". There were 14k+ comments, how many more like that do you bet there were? But the person pointing it out was like "if that's not the most telling thing I don't know what is"
@@bloodyneptune exactly. Pretty lenient kidnapper they are messed up with....🙄
If Bebop and Bebe were really being held against their will and forced into TikToks, the way the internet reacted would’ve 100% gotten them killed
I agree, If there is or was a 'Kidnapper', He/She would have saw the comments and seen how they are trying to get help, And then when it was the right moment he/she would have killed them because they were trying to get help.
(This is just what i think and i dont fully agree with the kidnapper thing.)
Child exploitation at its finest. 🤦 And it just gets creepier!
As soon as she said the daughter did pageants, it all made sense. She’s exploiting her daughter and feeding into this all for attention.
One thing I really appreciate about your channel is that you blur the child’s face this is great. As the parent(s) won’t do it. Thank you. Okay I don’t want to sound annoying but thank you for 227 likes thank you. Just one last edit the only thing is that I would have wished that the picture of the missing children should have been unblocked but that’s fine.
Yes! I completely agree 💯
Except she shouldn’t have blocked out the picture of the actual missing child. I hope that baby is found.
@@zoehicks880 yes but I mean on the TikTok’s.
Yeah I really respect this as well
@@buzzingdive I know what you meant and I completely agree. It’s just upsetting that this would have been a good way to get the missing girls face out there too :/
The real older brother looked disturbed by what was happening as well as incredibly frustrated
There needs to be laws passed to regulate children being used for online content. I guarantee these children will come out as adults about just how horrific and traumatic things were for them
I completely agree. They aren’t aware of what’s happening, most kids don’t even realize the depth and power of the internet until they’re in their teen years. I can guarantee that later in life they aren’t going to be happy to see how much of their life has been posted online. There’s absolutely no reason parents should be allowed to exploit and use their kids like this for content and monetary gain, same goes for family channels.
Yeah it's messed up. I believe that just like how kids can't consent to adult activities until they reach a certain stage and are fully developed, they can't consent to having their life on display every waking hour (and even they sometimes oppose the idea of being filmed but the parent still shoves the camera in his or her face) and it's beyond selfish for the parents to be trying to use them for profit. Like get an actual job FFS.
And that's not even mentioning the creepy AF "poses" and "outfits" that they're being made to wear which no child ever should be seen that way, and like TehMimi said, it attracts disgusting attention from really creepy older people
Especially after Jennette McCurdy's book came out, we don't know what these kids are going through.
They’re using their kids like show horses like Britney Spears family did
That poor father. I'm glad his missing girl is getting some attention. It's got to be hard to find any hope in a situation like that.
Yeah if anything good can come out of this, hopefully it's that
I just hope the kids are safe honestly, with that many followers it can be damaging to their Social life with people their age and then there's the obvious issue with creeps watching the tiktok videos and then people posting private information will put them in so much danger
Also child explotation but I think that's the most obvious issue yknow
Yes honestly Really
This is sickening AF, so disturbing. What is this “mother “ thinking? She’s putting that child in grave danger both mentally and physically. Call CPS on this strange family.
Do it then, help the kid.
Looking at The Brother I was like "So he's the mother's sibling" and then you later confirmed that.
Dunno if that's the mother being misleading, some families having weird naming for each other (Like kids who call their grandparents "mom" "dad" because that's what their parents called them you know) or just the people jumping on this conspiracy theory not thinking (which is why they assume a kidnapper would just let people wear the distress signal clothing and not be all over comments if someone was truly kidnapped)
it was so obvious that he was the mom’s brother. i call my grandma’s sister Aunt bc that’s what my mom calls her & there isn’t really a name for that relation, they were clearly doing something similar
I also didn't think it was suspicious at all. People assumed it was Ava's brother. They never said that. And saying "The brother" it's pretty clear he's someone's brother but not necessarily Ava's.
@@antiayn a grandparents sister/brother is a great aunt/uncle :)
Right! Then when she highlights that she calls him her brother....like duh, she called him brother the whole time. This is the most pointless video I ever listened to. I would have clicked away but I was cooking and just let it play. My son has 3 colored walls and I took him for a haircut after his nap today and he didn't want to be there. According to this video I am a kidnapper who forces my son to do stuff he doesn't want to.... I unsubscribed after this video.
I feel desperately worried about Peyton. That "apology video" was definitely abuse 😢
One thing about the choker : how you look at it totally depends on your view on the world. Same thing with cat ears! But, other people, it's not like, 100% sexual. I'm wearing these on daily basis because I'm having alt style, though, I absolutely think that it isn't the best decision to give it to such a young child.
Great vid as always, be blessed y'all
While I haven't worn one as thick as that one yk. I've been wearing Claire's chokers since I was 6/7 💀 It only became "s3xual" to people around me a year or 2 ago. Aka when I really started ahem , "maturing". I totally agree
I think it's just so different considering the outfits though. I was big into anime at 7 and dressed in cat ears because I thought it was cute lol, but I'd wear them with regular cute clothes, not clothes clearly trying to show my body off. Just the pairing is very clearly icky
Thankfully we're not p3d0s, but sadly those people will look at these videos and her being in a collar and be sick about it. And this mother 10000% knows that
@@satapon4129 +
It is 100% sexual. And if you choose to ignore it, you're only part of the problem.
I honestly hope the son gets to 18, gets out of the house, tells his side & is able to save his sister from their mother. It is obvious this mother is exploiting bebop as a cash cow & possibly living through her vicariously.
I feel like the bruises are easy to explain she's a pageant mum she probably got some cosmetic surgery done or it could be just a shadow from under eye bags
Yeah, some of us just have dark circles under our eyes! 🤷🏻♀️
That poor father breaks my heart. So beautiful how he can turn something that would usually be seen as disrespectful as such a good thing. His hope is admirable.
this breaks my heart, too. as someone who is still in the prime demographic for tiktok, the "concern" on tiktok for ava and other missing kids is probably not actual concern in my opinion, knowing my age group. some (but maybe not all) of the tiktok users "expressing concern" for ava and other missing children just want to feel important and maybe gain online traction (edit: except for the woman named destiny who surved csa, she seemed very genuinely concerned). or they're bored and this gives them some form of entertainment because much of my generation grew up with a warped sense of the boundary between social media and real life, so the idea doesn't even cross their minds that this could be harmful/cruel to actual parents of missing children and the children themselves. i know this makes me sound like a boomer but i feel like tiktok is seriously messing with the cognitive/emotional development of children. i just hope ava's father can maybe find some amount of peace, though losing a child is something you never truly heal from.
Thank you for covering this! It definitely creeps me out. Also, thanks for debunking a lot of the conspiracies that creators are pulling out of thin air. It goes to show people run with ANYTHING.
Only in Egypt apparently
"didn't you like it at the end, being famous?" This is the weirdest parent lecture. 🤨
I don’t understand the confusion around the brother/uncle thing, like… they share a social media and it just said “my brother,” why the hell would folks think it was the kid’s brother?? Older folks have brothers too, think critically for a second jesus
Thank you! Finally a comment that has some common sense. It's laughable how people don't listen and blow everything out of proportion. Same goes for the "bruising " -- its called normal skin with bad makeup and filters and aging, not abuse. How does the mom's brother equal the child's brother? Everyone just jumps on the bandwagon in a desperate attempt to be a part of something. There is absolutely nothing nefarious going on here other than a mother exploiting her child for money and attention. That's bad enough, but damn, the entire world has lost the ability to think independently.
Idk if it is because I recently heard the audiobook of "I'm Glad My Mom Died" but this relationship remains me A LOT of the relationship Jennette Mccurdy and her mother had
32:22 The dad's crying made me tear up😢😢I hope Ava will be found. I really feel sympathy for the brother and Bebop, the mother is so abusive, I feel trash.
You spoke my mind. I wouldnt know how to feel if I was in Ava's father. Yes! This mother is evil! I hope she gets hers soon. 💚
This sounds much like a venus angelic situation, if you don’t know the story the mother would force her child to dress in Lolita type outfits and her mother would dress, film, and control what she did on the internet and off. It’s probably best to call child services on them. Or they could be doing this just for attention.
Ok they definitely weren't kidnapped lol. Mom just is definitely exploiting her kid
“What did you lie about”
“That I was forced”
“SAY IT” like ok????? As if she didn’t just force him to make a video and “confess” to all the things he did
I don't think this child was kidnapped at all. Exploited? Absolutely, yes. Her Mom's coercing her and using her for profit, no matter where or who it's from (telling by the outfits that get put on her, disgusting). The child obviously doesn't know the dangers of having her face online does and is being profited from unfairly. But I don't think pulling the "She's kidnapped" card is good, especially if it gives people false hope.
my heart is going out to the father of ava and the family members affected by these missing children and women. Their stories are so important
i’m going to cry 😭 the father for the ava conspiracy really sees the positive on it, i really do hope that it does help their family get closer to finding out to what happened to their love ones.
Peyton looks miserable and it’s blatantly obvious that his apology was very forced.
It's somehow worse to me that the mom is Bebe and the child is Bepop like their names are straight out of Friday Night Funkin'.
yeah, like i'll bet good money that there's a mod with the same name as them.
I'm thankful for you blurring out the little girl's face, seeing her in some of those outfits and skits was disturbing enough and I think as little people as possible should know who she is especially predators, they can still look her up and find her but at least it takes some more effort than just screenshot ting your video
Exactly! If they think it's so wrong and disgusting... Why are people sharing this all over without censoring? It's so disgusting. I only trust TehMimi anymore tbh
Someone: doesn’t smile in a TikTok
Everyone: omg they’re kidnapped!?!?!!? They’re not smiling!?!? They’re being forced to do this!?!?!😨😨😨😨😨😱😨😱😨😱😨
Why does everyone always assume someone’s being kidnapped like bro, if they were being kidnapped; they wouldn’t have internet access, such clean appearances and clothes💀 use yall brains omg
LMFAO💀
This is what happens when you have a bunch of kids and Teens playing detective.
@@harrisonhurst6480 FR FR
ONE TIME ON ONE OF MY TIKTOKS SOMEONE COMMENTED “why do u keep looking up to the left? are u okay? pls do the hand sign for help in ur next vid if something’s wrong :((“ GIRL I WAS WATCHING TV WHILE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING I DREW EARLIER THANKS FOR YOUR CONCERN, BUT I WAS VISIBLY HOLDING THE TV REMOTE AND YOU COULD HEAR THE SHOW IN THE BACKGROUND 💀💀
@@s-agk LMFAO💀 sorry for laughing but wth😭 why is everyone quick to assume someone’s kidnapped like huh? Look at real kidnapped cases, they aren’t found for *days* because they don’t have access to the internet or anyone like what💀
I understand a lot of people's concerns involving Bepop and Bebe, but going as far as to make a claim that the uncle is the kidnapper, it's disheartening, especially at the uncle's perspective
This situation reminds me of Venus Angelic a couple years back. Controlling mother and everything
yeah, thought about that too
10:58 how could anyone ever think that these two girls look ANYTHING like each other? i looked up the image for myself and compared them and here's the differences that i can list just from a handful of photos of bebop:
1. they have completely different ears. while cosmetic surgery can change appearances drastically, ears are always what you should look at first as a defining characteristic since they're unique for every person and cannot be altered. bebop has very large lobes, slightly out turned ears and thick cartridge ridges from what ive seen as compared with aranza lopez, who has very small ears, small lobes, nearly completed out turned ears and very discreet cartridge ridges.
2. bebop's nose is drastically thinner than aranza's and sits much lower on her face, along with being less upturned at its point.
3. different eye colours. aranza has blue-grey eyes while bebop has hazel-grey eyes. they also have different eye shapes, with bebop's being much more almond shaped and aranza's being quite round.
4. their face shapes are also different! bebop has a defined, square jawline and a square face shap while aranza has a very round face with a less defined chin and much rounder cheeks.
5. their hairlines begin at different places, with bebop's starting much further back on her forehead.
i could go on and on about all their differences. yes, i know that the photo of aranza is from 2018 (or perhaps even earlier) so her appearance is probably somewhat different now, but things like facial structure, eye shape, nose shape and especially your ears don't actually change very much at all as you age. it honestly frustrates me how people saw this account and tried to connect it to this poor missing girl's case.
Isn’t it illegal to pretend to be kidnapped? So if the mom is doing that she should face the legal consequences.
It’s illegal if you get the police involved. But just going along with conspiracy theories on the internet probably not. Morally what she’s doing is wrong but I don’t think it’s illegal.
As a complete aside, the mother looks so unsettling, like she's had too much botox and a nose job?
In the age of filters and digital live face altering I hate people trying to do face matchups.
What creeps me out is she has a brother but one day they stopped talking about him
Exactly, it makes me feel creeped out too.
"Were you forced?"
No
"Were you threatened?"
No
While he's being forced to make that video
Hes absolutely being forced and threatened, He sounds so nervous while saying that too.
its obviously fake. bebe sells slime, and works for an agency. this is sick
People just like drama, they're normally people trolling
The whole conspiracy that always rears up of "They've been kidnapped and are being forced to make videos!" never makes sense to me. If someone has seriously kidnapped someone and is putting them on camera, they're the person in charge of the social media account. They can SEE the comments. They're not going to allow the potential victims to actually DO things like 'wear red' if they're in danger.
It doesn't make much sense to me that someone would kidnap two people and make them do tiktoks of all things.
Exactly. Like the kidnapper would have full control of the socials??? How does it make sense someone would kidnap an entire human being successfully and avoid the police only to just let your kidnapped victims do whatever they want to a platform of millions ??? Like what 😂😭🥴 make it make sense
Nice to see your face Mimi, hope all’s well!💖There has to be a team of some seriously sick individuals behind her account - regardless of what the circumstances. Thanks for shining a light on this sickening, disturbing issue.
If they've been kidnapped by someone else, either;
A. They control the social media account and could very easily just point black state that they need help
B. They don't control the social media, in which case the kidnapper wouldn't actively engage in the "help request signals" from the commenters, giving themselves away would be pointless.
More than likely, this is Bebe (or whatever the mum is called) doing it on purposes for the traction they gain by everyone talking about it. What a horrible way to extort your child.
i think it’s a dumb conspiracy and although she may be exploiting her child for views, i HIGHLY doubt she KIDNAPPED her. plus, they literally look alike. i don’t think anyone is in any danger. though, i was shocked to find out that they speak english.
She may be in danger
Of grooming. A lot of parents have no isse about exploiting their own children
Damn calm down.
@@thecurse9812 are you good with yourself? i’m calm.
Calm down? Do you not know the world we live in? It’s fucked.
@@FukaiKokoro I wasn’t talking about what was happening
Every time I hear about a social media kidnapping theory I roll my eyes. They always seem to get debunked and besides, who tf would kidnap someone and make them do Tiktoks???
what if bebop's room IS a set and when they're not doing tiktok child pageant vids she's just supremely goth?? like the camera pans over and her room is just coffins and bats and Skullanimals 😂😭
I saw a clip on TikTok saying her room is a set and not her real room
@@Agforever12 A clip on TikTok!? Oh god must be true then! No one ever lies on TikTok! Wait... But they do...
@@harrisonhurst6480 it was the little girl showing her real room
why does the internet love to immediately assume random people have been kidnapped good lord
I know this video is a little old but I’ve always wanted to point out the fact the chokers being deemed as a “BDSM accessory” is not exactly true. As a young teen, I remember being in 8th grade (back in 2014) & chokers were becoming a trend again. Clair’s started selling them, not in that exact same fashion she wears, but the fashion she is wearing is primarily worn by the alt community.. not the BDSM. I don’t find that choker primarily immature to wear for her age, but what I do find inappropriate is that she wears heavy makeup that makes her look 10 years older, often making it hard to tell how old she actually may be; but the heavy makeup makes sense considering she is a pageant kid.
I am convinced they know exactly what they are doing. They are using this whole “conspiracy” surrounding their account to gain traction and fame. They aren’t in danger and know how gullible people can be; especially when it comes to kids. The only people they are exploiting are the ones naive enough to believe they are actually in danger. They just want fame, money and clout like everyone does nowadays.
Sexualizing chokers has big "no exposed shoulders" energy. If someone finds them "sexy," that's completely on them,and they need to stop projectjng their kinks into people who are just wearing popular fashion
@@Gloomdrake thank you!!!
I hate that I'm not even in a minute in and that this TikTok creator is unhinged
Edit: their videos radiate child pred energy
This is the only comment I've come across with truth in it. Thank you! No one else wants to see it for what it really is...kidnapped, I think not.
I’m sorry but “Enchanto” made me laugh 😭
I've always hated the "wear x if you're in danger" comments because if they were being forced to make a video, it's the abductor that is posting it. Also, it would be really stupid if they were a parent who kidnapped their kid to be trying to get TikTok famous because then people will recognize them? but a lot of people on TikTok are either young or they're only seeing a couple videos and don't always know the context.
I think the Dad was implying that he doesn't think that's his daughter, but rather that the situation is making people more aware of his daughter and what she looks like so if they actually come across her someday they'll be able to recognize her. He's right that it's a bit of a silver lining, but between the exploitation and faking a kidnapping for clout it's all royally screwed up.
They aren't kidnapped, her mom just wants her to have a better life than her.
Thank you so much for debunking the conspiracies about them being anything more than a mother exploiting her child.
I was right then. For a while, I’ve ignored these theories because, even though at first I believed it be a kidnapping, I saw the time stamps. The brother looks like he is need of desperate help because he knows better and the daughter doesn’t know better. I do believe that room is a set. Seeing toddlers and tiaras a few times put an unsettling tightness in my stomach. Childhood trauma is long term and actually stunts mental growth and maturity. Once the brother is old enough, I want him to take the little girl 100+ miles away from the mother.
I also hope the missing children get found. My heart cries out to the father. I see him cry and I can only imagine, knowing how much my fathers loves me and my siblings, the pain and defeated feeling he’s going through. He relies so much on his religion for hope and that’s his hope he holds onto. I hope he keeps holding on to that hope. Having a family member kidnapped gives you a restless worry that is indescribable I’m sure.
I think some of the conspiracy people think it could be the mom being forced, rather than having to come to terms with the fact that some people shouldn't be allowed to have kids and are awful parents.
After seeing a few videos I can conclude that "Bebe" here is a manipulative, controlling similar to a Soccer Mom meets a Toddlers & Tiara's Mother figure but with social media brownie points. Anyone who continues the whole "wear this color if your in danger" are either very young and do not understand whats really going on or are playing along because of the attention. Bebe shouldn't be allow to have any media or any children due to this being a more psychological abuse. I really hope the investigation goes underway because aint no way this should be a thing. it just brings back all the nightmare of Toddlers and Tiara's with a mom claiming she's a Bebe when she's a honey BooBoo or whatever
I'm going to say this loud for the people in the back-
STOP EXPLOITING YOUR KIDS FOR CLOUT!
GET A JOB. GET A HOBBY
GET A THERAPIST
It's pathetic and I'm tired of seeing it. You're screwing your kids up. Stop
i gotta say - in my personal opinion - this is the best video you've made in a while. i'v been subbed to this channel for a few years and have liked the vast majority of videos, but it is ones like this that i am here for. well done, Mimi. Thank you.
What bothers me is that the child is named Bebop and the mom Bebe, to me Bebe sounds more like 'baby' and that feels a little weird to me.
Based on the body language of Bebop and Peyton, I think the mom is making them make multiple videos a day and that can be exhausting if you don't want to.
What also feels icky to me is the mom dressing up/cosplaying in the same child/tween/teen characters (like Junko from Danganronpa and the characters from Turning Red as shown in the video) as the child. I'm not saying that as an adult you can't do cosplay of these characters but in this case it just leaves a weird taste.
Seeing Ava’s father cry was heart breaking. 😢
I can already tell this is going to be an interesting video especially since it’s Tehmimi covering it!
Watching now, good to see an upload
this was a great video, love how you do these deep dives :D
People trolling the comments with “wear this/say that” are pretty garbage
I feel so bad for Ava’s dad. All the bs spreading around the internet is literally just making the situation worse.
Thank you so much for talking about this situation, I never believed that they were “kidnapped” for multiple reasons, people need to understand that everything they see on the inter is not true and that they can’t trust everything. Those poor kids are being exploited for views and money.
The kidnapping story is way too flimsy, instantly didn't buy it. If that were the case they would not have access to the internet let alone a phone. Kidnappers would have nothing to gain by forcing them to make tik toks. Even if that was somehow the case, why would they let them have creative freedom and read comments? Mom is 100% exploiting her poor kids for views. She is perpetuating wildly false allegations, and real victim's families are being drug into it even though they've hurt enough.
I remember that once i saw a video of them in my fyp and it really scared me (even though i had no idea of this whole conspiracy at the time) because it reminded me of that one girl who acted like a doll and it turned out to be her mother controlling her the whole time. Hopefully this time is not as bad or, in the case it is, someone can intervene in time so it doesn't damage her kids life as much.
I think beebop might be an actual adult, and have some kinda pituitary issue, like in the movie Orphan. I just get those vibes from her.
The kidnapping thing is the Internet being extra. Truth is; this is more like a mother that is exploiting her own child to make money. Scary; Sad & Infuriating tbh.
Yeah, most likely a mother exploiting her child rather than kidnapping.
I sincerely hope that something will be done about these parents exploiting their kids on social media. I don't know if that will come in the form of updated TOS or some sort of legislation, but this is just horribly sad to see happen over and over again.
i need an apology video for the way you just said Encanto. WITH TEARS.
LMFAO SO GLAD IT WASN'T JUST ME
Thank you so much for making this! I hope this brings so much more awareness to the missing women and girls and that this situation is investigated by police thoroughly!
Man the actual brother looks so not into any of this lol.