Let's increase prices because our player base is up!!! Great idea, but they forgot that OSRS is an addition to the mistake they created from 2012. We pay we say lol.
they just don't give a shit and assume the whales will carry the game. Kinda like it happens in RS3. This strategy will likely succeed and make them more money for a couple of years before it dies entirely, and thats a good thing for the corpo guys
Don't protest by going to falador..... protest by cancelling your membership or stop buying bonds IRL or In-Game. The player base is a HUGE part of the problem. It DOESN'T MATTER what we think, we can literally only change this terrible course by canceling memberships.
You know what happens when a company starts losing their money? The board of directors will pressure them to up the revenue, for a gaming company one way to up the revenu is mtx, the people on top don’t care about the players. They wil just make it a money cow and milk a small percentage with loads of micro transactions like rs3.
They killed it once when they removed the wilderness in 2007/8 and gave us BH, then they killed it again when they removed free trade, then they killed it again when they brought EOC, now they're killing it again. More than twice, many, many times.
Don't let jagex price anchor, they're trying to show these high prices and then lower them a little bit later to make it look like a compromise and deal.
@UploadsScoresFordT no but they will offer you a worse product for a higher price and tell you its so much better. Make sense to me. And dealers will in fact eloquently explaon features of something for 20 minutes as well
@ I guess you didn’t smoke in hs, but no dealer has 20 minutes worth of stuff to explain about their weed. They make up a preposterous name to make it sound gas and sometimes pretend like they know the THC content. Explaining subscription plans for 20 minutes? Nah. I know you have 420 in your name but not everything can be accurately related to weed
Imagine increasing membership prices 30%, and then following this up by paywalling additional features that should already be part of the game (account security, zero ads, runelite, customer support, AFK timers, etc). How out of touch can they seriously be? Typical grimy cash grabbing corporate scum
Its even more of an increase if you play both rs3 and oldschool too, they're trying to change it to being exclusive to one or the other, probably because people are buying bonds on rs3 to play osrs
It’s all trash, don’t get me wrong. I fking hate it. But out of all the total garbage I seen, the membership exclusive worlds for the 33 dollar option lowkey hits. You know that would be fire asf. Imagine not having to deal with bots in a popular activity. They need to erase everything but that.
Welcome to Hedge funds, they buy companies, try and pump every single dollar into the bottom line whatever the cost, and sell it for a profit, usually fully killing the company in the process. We need to pray that someone wealthy who loves the game can buy the company and be happy making a very solid yearly return, and just letting Jagex/the playbase run the game.
“Offering lower cost options” , oh you mean how much it cost last year? Except now it has ads? And now we have to pay for runelite and other features that should already come with base membership? Jagex has lost their mind
@@Greenleaf_ ? Fuck no, they should put ads on F2P if they're so adamant about it and maybe open up the map a bit more for the people there so they have more to do than to grind fucking lesser demons if they're already getting bombarded by ads. Literally every service in existence minus television has "no ads" as part of the lowest subscription because they know that people would pay a chum change to remove that shit, no one in their right mind would pay to get ads. What they would achieve with this is that diehard players would buy the more expensive sub and most people who just casually played will just quit because they will feel wronged and are already one foot out of the game every few months after they get bored of skilling, however this time they wont have any incentive to revisit the game.
I quit soon as eoc started. they did nothing right man it was stupid. Some of the summoning was pretty cool but most of it sucked. Also wtf is sailing now? that's the dumbest sht also 😂😂😂
It’s crazy that they trying to do this considering how much growth there’s been and so many people praising jagex like all the wow players content coming to osrs cause its a good game
It’s a typical corporate scheme. I am a consultant for growing corporations. They introduce you to obnoxious and over the top ideas just to take it back slightly before they increase prices. Us folks are not over reacting when we say we won’t play because we know that prices and the schemes will continue to increase.
This was my first thought. They are distracting everyone with these ridiculous proposals so that they can more easily get away with a standard price rise with less backlash.
@@KO-us9dgso all of this is a big move to another thing ?!!? Do you know any examples of other companies doing the same ? Bc I’ve never heard or seen this pattern
If they really make these changes, I will cancel all of my 8 subscriptions that I have been paying for over a decade and never look back. I'd rather play on a private server or just move on to another game. Edit: for those that are curious, I have my main, 1 regular iron, 1 hc iron, 2 group iron, and 3 pking accs. I'm typically active on 6 of them. And I use some for rs3 as well.
Thing is it's so sad like I don't want the game to die but if they're gonna pull the greedy stunt, then I hope it does die so they live the rest of their life in regret. But no one has to suffer. Is it so hard to be content with their cashflow of hundreds millions of dollars per month? Greedy goblins just want more and more smh
@@justinbright1131 Yeah but I'd do it just on principle cause fuck having ads and all this other bs. If we allow this this time, they will not stop there it would only be the beginning until it turns into RS3.
Part of me thinks they forced it so they can "work" on it for 5 years and no one would bat an eye. The engine work alone made it practically impossible. Coulda had the other two skills done within two years MAX.
Jagex in the past: Guys seriously, secure your accounts, here's a whole new 4 level dungeon with unique mobs and rewards with a free 10k at the end if you've implemented account security features, with a new teleport item if you train on the mobs there." Jagex now: "Pay us to make sure your account is secure... you don't wanna get hacked do ya?"
I dont get it though. They WANT to make money right? Why would a private equity firm want to make less money by making dumb decisions that eventually ruin the game and their investment?
@@projectfiveunder it's called venture capatalism. These CEO's go from company to company, squeeze it for all its profit, and then sell their stock options when the company starts to fail. It has been hppening in America for a few decades now and is a result of final-stage capatalism
@@mattaudette9550 Ohhh That makes sense. So they don't actually care about the growth/growing the business, they just want quick gains and then leave. That's crazy. What a soulless existence.
"They're trying to merch us" BROTHER you are able to translate IRL stuff to us OSRS nerds SO WELL!!! Thank you! All the time you do that man! Thank you for REPRESENTING THE BOYS
“Don’t change anything we’re happy with everything how it is, and take out sailing” - is just the most perfect summation of exactly the community sentiment.
Reminder : jagex has no actual support page. They use twitter. Upon putting in a ticket you will be spammed by phising bots trying to hack you. Reminder jagex says your account security is your problem.
You can tell he doesn't believe in the horseshit he's reading off the prompter.. the big gulps, and the "how tf did I end up doing this" deer in the headlights look.
@@FizzedAye I've been wondering if a company that has real consumer protection legislation claps that up. It seems too absurd to be something that exists
The updated news post was a joke. They're shitty excuse is literally "oh we just asked these questions to see how people react, not because we were actually considering implementing them"
Like when they did the survey about less MTX but increased cost of P2P then they instantly raised subscription fee and put in more MTX. Such a solid company.
This is a corporate strategy called Anchoring. They set out these ideas they know people will hate, people get outraged, and then roll out a little bit watered down version that isn't as bad, and the people don't get as mad because it wasn't as bad as you first thought itd be. Its legit a strategy they are using very poorly.
As an infrequent member (once a year go on a 2 week bender) genuinely don’t understand why the hate for sailing? Again I’m a noob and looking for an explanation
@@NyghtingMan Because its a shitty mini-game not a new skill. Exactly what all the naysayers said would happen and everyone else called crazy until it couldn't be ignored when they actually started showing it off
If Membership was 5-9.99$ a month, i would just let the subscription run. Instead every couple months when i play for a few weeks, i just buy a bond with gp.
Same, next thing you know they’ll make it so bonds arent buyable with gp anymore or they will completely drive the price of them up in game so we’re forced to pay for membership. If this happens I don’t think I’ll play until they change it. Just out of the sheer fact I’m a casual player and I use the gp I get to pay for bonds because I’ll feel like I’m wasting money paying that high when I only play a few times a week.
Bro LMS gets me bonds cause my skilling ain't high lvl for good profit.the trouver parchments are uo frn2.1m to 3.2m now I can get those in like and hour from LMS so bonds are t that hard the pricing making me have to put more time in LMS but I refuse to give my hard earned money
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Watch Europa the last battle to learn the history of the people who bought your game and also the reason why oda isn't in the sandbox
Very true about false bans, I got hacked and I recovered my account with a perm ban , I have appealed it and it hasn’t been looked at it’s been 2 weeks now .
There was once a time when every week runescape would come up with updates often with bug fixes or quests or events or whatever, now they want us to pay premiums for what amounts to a greedy ceo and his skeleton crew.
Here at jagex we're working on a more for more basis. So we currently offer 0% customer support. Therefore will double the membership and customer support, which is simple... 2 x 0% is still 0, it's a win for everyone, especially the share holders... oh, and don't worry about the degenerate player base that funds us.
I genuinely think Jagex as a studio is poor. You have to understand that a majority of their profit goes to their investors. Thats not speculation its fact. The company has been bought and sold around almost every year now, with RS3 the mtx generator declining in players.
Vote with your wallets. Cancel your memberships and take a break from the game. Save some bank and send the message in a way Jagex cannot ignore; by hurting their bottom line. That is the only thing that will give the community the power to dictate what we want from the game. Right now all they're responding with is words and corporate speak. An actual boycott will get the REAL apology in actions.
you really think people will cancel? alot of players are addicted to this game. You will NEVER see crackheads protesting their crack dealers. These fat losers have nothing outside. it wont work
Interesting. I always thought they were doing what they could in regard to account security This blatantly shows that they could be doing more, but just won't.... Unless... "for a small fee"
I was under the impression they released multiple surveys. All surveys with different options. Makes sense as to why every player had a different subscription model to give an opinion on. They will take these results, aggregate them, and then they will use a model (or modified model) that was the most popular. And I’m 99% certain this would involve mixing and matching what we have seen.
In a game where you can instantly travel to every single place with a teleport from your house at no cost, it’ll be nothing but dead content that nobody wants to do.
@@garrysuits I basically manually renew it each year, rather than leaving it on automatic renewal if that makes sense. It's so I don't forget about it..
I bet that Devs and other Jagex employees were like "this will not fly, trust us this will be BAD" and the owners were like "hmm...we dont believe, announce it so we can see the feedback". But I bet they will implement something nontheless and then ppl will quit...
@@AlkaVirusyep that's why we gotta fight back by collectively going about the long way with 3rd party stuff and not giving in by swiping the credit cards.
Many such cases and not only in game development - everywhere. Exec that is out of touch with reality forces a change while ignoring guys with boots on the ground saying it won't work. Classic.
They 100% knew, this is a corporate strategy called anchoring. They're gonna suggest all this ridiculous shit, everybody's gonna rightfully freak out, and in the next few months when they implement these features for cheaper prices people aren't gonna be as outraged, that's how it's supposed to work at least, I hope this continues to blow up in the face of Jagex
2:05 Yeah in the standard subscription. This is such a dishonest statement from Jagex. Nobody was asking for membership tiers lmao. People want to see basic functionality added to their already extremely expensive membership even by MMO standards.
5:51 this very well could be something to help get rid of bots but it's also lickley an invasion of privacy I guess we will just need to wait until there is more info avalable.
This is the American corporate model coming to this game. Raise prices until you have a balance of lower customers but still the same revenue. MTX will be soon after this, once they cut the OSRS staff to RS3 size and probably reduce servers as well. Damn they will be making so much money.
@@fatheadjonny8955European companies don’t follow a similar business model? L O L, laughed out loud at that one. Gagex has been greedy since their pre-EOC days, it starts with their lead developers and not a single one of them were/are American….. all from Europe.
This does not work on MMOs and MOBAs because a small number of players creates a domino effect, where the remaining players get frustrated and quit due to difficulties in trading, finding, or interacting with others in a timely manner, leading to a further reduction in the player base. Also, this game has a lot of bots, and if there aren't enough people willing to buy bonds, the bots will quit as well.
This is what happens when you let people/companies have a monopoly over ideas (copyright) you KNOW they wouldn't try this shit if there was other competing OSRS servers.
😂😂 Oda thank you for representing everything that i would want said publicly on my behalf about this. Thank you for your use of platform to battle this nonsense
Jagex in the last two years only hires if you’re a minority, lgbt or depressed - you must have missed the memo. Why do you think all these bad changes are happening?
I guess y'all didn't know. RuneScape classic used to be fully web based and ran from a webpage. They had ads back then. I remember to combat the laggy ads, there was a trick by zooming in the ad to have it hyper zoomed into less pixels. Them moving backwards is wild. But I can confidently tell you. If they raise members, I will officially quit. I love osrs because I'm a super old head from 01. But I have too much real life going on so if I'm having to pay $20+ a month to play, it just will give me the ultimate reason to officially cut ties from RuneScape forever and I will 100% do it
Oda, you are the face for MOST of the RS community, you have achieved alot! WE NEED YOU, to tell GAGEX this is the last straw, we will show them how petty we can be just as EOC we will MASS quit this game if this happends. its eoc all over again brother. I'm not waiting for oldschool oldschool runescape. We're grown up. I will quit and never look back It was a fun ride to release my inner child again in osrs but i will never again, i've maxed, i've done what i wanted.
The new membership tiers are terrible. That being said so is DMM, it should never have a prize pool. Calling a company greedy but demanding a prize pool in order to make an unbearable event watchable (it won't be) is a joke too.
the thing that gets me the most about this is how excited jagex was about this survey, there were three newsblog posts mentioning it i knew of, pretty sure i seen highlighted mods talk about it on reddit and even the ingame notification bar mentioned it to keep an eye out for it.
also, prices going up before got dogshit reasons, started 5 bucks a month, went up to 7 or 8 to help servers cuz ddos attacks were bad, went to 11 dollars just cuz, and then this recent 30%increase to 14 a month for no reason other than them saying "btw its going up 30%" now they want to provide basic account help that any other game at this level already does, for 25 a month. and thats not even including "add bonus account"
I’m a pilot and they are trying to do something similar with our ATC. I’m not sure if ads over the radio would ever be a thing… but that’s the running joke with nextgen…. Imagine landing at an airport, but you need to play an ad for the pax first.
lol I like how they got some random intern to be the face to tell us all this so none of the mods would take the heat
shameless XD
Lmaoooo
He's the Senior Strategy Manager though, in other words, the Private Equity firm's shill
I just want to know which moron at jagex would have brought up the idea of trying to push/poll this through.
Def not an intern lol, did you even watch?
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Jagex: “the game is doing better than ever how can we ruin it?”
Let's increase prices because our player base is up!!! Great idea, but they forgot that OSRS is an addition to the mistake they created from 2012. We pay we say lol.
they just don't give a shit and assume the whales will carry the game. Kinda like it happens in RS3. This strategy will likely succeed and make them more money for a couple of years before it dies entirely, and thats a good thing for the corpo guys
And let’s force in a new skill illegitimately by reducing the poll requirement from 75% to 70%
@@FizzedAye worste part is they just raised membership prices it's criminal
@@osrsbeatrs3249 I think if they actually add a new skill we all keep it at 1 in protest.
Don't protest by going to falador..... protest by cancelling your membership or stop buying bonds IRL or In-Game. The player base is a HUGE part of the problem.
It DOESN'T MATTER what we think, we can literally only change this terrible course by canceling memberships.
100% just go play something else for a month or two and see if it makes any waves.
Victim blaming is an actual insane take.
@ Naa you aren't the victim though. You are paying for a service. If it's shit... Stop paying.
Already cancelled mine
You know what happens when a company starts losing their money? The board of directors will pressure them to up the revenue, for a gaming company one way to up the revenu is mtx, the people on top don’t care about the players. They wil just make it a money cow and milk a small percentage with loads of micro transactions like rs3.
Imagine dying on ur hcim because of a burgerking add
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Think they killed it more than twice
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Imagine killing your game not once, but twice. Incredible Gagex
They killed it once when they removed the wilderness in 2007/8 and gave us BH, then they killed it again when they removed free trade, then they killed it again when they brought EOC, now they're killing it again. More than twice, many, many times.
Thrice if you include the '07 fiasco. They will never learn.
Actually 3 times sadly
@@anthoanb4066I’d argue the number is likely higher tbh 😂
But hey, at least we got pride events right???
Don't let jagex price anchor, they're trying to show these high prices and then lower them a little bit later to make it look like a compromise and deal.
Standard playbook
the jagex guy doing the pitch seems like a high school weed dealer trying to push a subscription plan
so accurate lmfao
yes, every high school weed dealer offers you packages and subscription deals while eloquently explaining their features. wtf are you talking about?
@UploadsScoresFordT no but they will offer you a worse product for a higher price and tell you its so much better.
Make sense to me.
And dealers will in fact eloquently explaon features of something for 20 minutes as well
@ I guess you didn’t smoke in hs, but no dealer has 20 minutes worth of stuff to explain about their weed. They make up a preposterous name to make it sound gas and sometimes pretend like they know the THC content. Explaining subscription plans for 20 minutes? Nah. I know you have 420 in your name but not everything can be accurately related to weed
I see it lmao
I heard that vengeance will be sponsored by mcdonalds, using it will shout "taste - a mcmuffin now for £1.99"
Tbh. That's the only way that it's be acceptable
Just quit
Imagine increasing membership prices 30%, and then following this up by paywalling additional features that should already be part of the game (account security, zero ads, runelite, customer support, AFK timers, etc). How out of touch can they seriously be? Typical grimy cash grabbing corporate scum
Its even more of an increase if you play both rs3 and oldschool too, they're trying to change it to being exclusive to one or the other, probably because people are buying bonds on rs3 to play osrs
It’s all trash, don’t get me wrong. I fking hate it.
But out of all the total garbage I seen, the membership exclusive worlds for the 33 dollar option lowkey hits.
You know that would be fire asf. Imagine not having to deal with bots in a popular activity. They need to erase everything but that.
Welcome to Hedge funds, they buy companies, try and pump every single dollar into the bottom line whatever the cost, and sell it for a profit, usually fully killing the company in the process. We need to pray that someone wealthy who loves the game can buy the company and be happy making a very solid yearly return, and just letting Jagex/the playbase run the game.
@@rwwars6948bro what? 33 bucks to not deal with bots, bots shouldn’t be a problem anyway if Jagex did their ffkin jobs l0000l
@@rwwars6948 youre acting as if bots personally hinder your gameplay geek
He’s talking like he has a gun to his head to read the script 😂
“Offering lower cost options” , oh you mean how much it cost last year? Except now it has ads? And now we have to pay for runelite and other features that should already come with base membership? Jagex has lost their mind
If they want an ad tier it needs to be < $5, $11 for ads is ridiculous.
Or you can only play mobile get fucking real jagex
just use illegal 3rd party clients
@@Greenleaf_ ? Fuck no, they should put ads on F2P if they're so adamant about it and maybe open up the map a bit more for the people there so they have more to do than to grind fucking lesser demons if they're already getting bombarded by ads.
Literally every service in existence minus television has "no ads" as part of the lowest subscription because they know that people would pay a chum change to remove that shit, no one in their right mind would pay to get ads.
What they would achieve with this is that diehard players would buy the more expensive sub and most people who just casually played will just quit because they will feel wronged and are already one foot out of the game every few months after they get bored of skilling, however this time they wont have any incentive to revisit the game.
@@vladimirmishkov9555 no
It almost feels like this dude is being held hostage to read off this ridiculous pitch that CVC (the company who owns Jagex) wrote out for him
ridiculous ChatGPT written pitch*
It's typical ChatGPT rethoric
It's because he is, his job and status in the company is very much being evaluated during the commercial
Danelie!
He has the same dead ass stare as Mod Mark when he forced EoC on us
lol xd
That's not true. Mod mark loved EoC he was pretty charismatic about it.
This definitely feels like EoC times
Mod markdonalds genuinely thought eoc was the right decision to take the game in though
I quit soon as eoc started. they did nothing right man it was stupid. Some of the summoning was pretty cool but most of it sucked. Also wtf is sailing now? that's the dumbest sht also 😂😂😂
Paying more to not see bots get banned, shitty events, no pvp updates and just trash game quality lmao. This game is doomed
Dayum, Jagex trying to get everyone to mass quit the game in 2025 wasn't on my bingo card lol hard no on everything they proposed
It’s crazy that they trying to do this considering how much growth there’s been and so many people praising jagex like all the wow players content coming to osrs cause its a good game
This is what happens when a company decides to pay BILLIONS for something that makes 100+ Million a year
Someone f k e d up
@@ImReclusiveyup, and now they will fk it all up
@@ImReclusive Jagex corpo's seen the peak numbers from league and started rubbing their grubby mits together with a shit grin lmao
capitalist pigs will never have enough money.
It’s a typical corporate scheme. I am a consultant for growing corporations. They introduce you to obnoxious and over the top ideas just to take it back slightly before they increase prices. Us folks are not over reacting when we say we won’t play because we know that prices and the schemes will continue to increase.
This was my first thought. They are distracting everyone with these ridiculous proposals so that they can more easily get away with a standard price rise with less backlash.
@@KO-us9dgso all of this is a big move to another thing ?!!? Do you know any examples of other companies doing the same ? Bc I’ve never heard or seen this pattern
@@oddfatof527use common sense, brother
@ ok
This was the most disgusting thing they have ever done and so shameless
They took some of Zuckerberg's advice to mass capitalise on the gaming community, might as well feel like we're playing Clash Of Clans
not even clash of clans has ads LOL this is worse
I drop a product when any of the following happens: 1- I dont need it anymore, 2- I feel cash grabbed
CVC's CEO about to get tbed Dspeared and ancient maced for his +1 outside Nandos
I got the D Scmi
@@andrewmeyering7343 And you can have my dragon hatchet!
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Ye, but does he know that? You think he/she plays the game?
If they really make these changes, I will cancel all of my 8 subscriptions that I have been paying for over a decade and never look back. I'd rather play on a private server or just move on to another game.
Edit: for those that are curious, I have my main, 1 regular iron, 1 hc iron, 2 group iron, and 3 pking accs. I'm typically active on 6 of them. And I use some for rs3 as well.
Thing is it's so sad like I don't want the game to die but if they're gonna pull the greedy stunt, then I hope it does die so they live the rest of their life in regret. But no one has to suffer. Is it so hard to be content with their cashflow of hundreds millions of dollars per month? Greedy goblins just want more and more smh
No good private servers right now. Runewild was the best one and jagex shut it down
@@JailedMurphy Alora
well actually for you those 8 subscriptions would be cheaper. lmao
@@justinbright1131 Yeah but I'd do it just on principle cause fuck having ads and all this other bs. If we allow this this time, they will not stop there it would only be the beginning until it turns into RS3.
no way gagex is putting the fork in the outlet again, what the hell
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Isn't there a mobile version are they adding adds just on mobile or everywhere?
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@@1tubaxhorrible joke homie
@@John316forlife thanks but keep that opinion to yourself chief 🙏🔥
Bruh theyve changed membership prices THREE TIMES IN ONE YEAR! WTF
bond prices are about to rocket
Bruh I could get membership for 2.7M bond two years ago, wtf happened
Trying to charge for runelite is wild. Did they forget about the mass riots when they already tried that?
Jagex refusing to do customers support for years and now they say pay more to theoretically get the customer support they shouldve had in place...
BUNCH OF FOOLIGANS!
Side note, sailing was the absolute worst option of all the 3 skills they pitched.
OSRS has been a Reddit private server for ages and its taken so far as adding sailing and people STILL dont see it
Part of me thinks they forced it so they can "work" on it for 5 years and no one would bat an eye. The engine work alone made it practically impossible. Coulda had the other two skills done within two years MAX.
ads in runescape is like playing a indie app game on the app store shameless
Jagex in the past: Guys seriously, secure your accounts, here's a whole new 4 level dungeon with unique mobs and rewards with a free 10k at the end if you've implemented account security features, with a new teleport item if you train on the mobs there."
Jagex now: "Pay us to make sure your account is secure... you don't wanna get hacked do ya?"
Private equity destroys userexperience, greedy fks
I dont get it though.
They WANT to make money right?
Why would a private equity firm want to make less money by making dumb decisions that eventually ruin the game and their investment?
@@projectfiveunder it's called venture capatalism. These CEO's go from company to company, squeeze it for all its profit, and then sell their stock options when the company starts to fail. It has been hppening in America for a few decades now and is a result of final-stage capatalism
@@mattaudette9550 Ohhh
That makes sense.
So they don't actually care about the growth/growing the business, they just want quick gains and then leave.
That's crazy.
What a soulless existence.
Their goal is really to destroy things that people like, that's worth more than money to them
nothing more stupid than hearing the word "equity" come out of a persons mouth
"They're trying to merch us" BROTHER you are able to translate IRL stuff to us OSRS nerds SO WELL!!! Thank you! All the time you do that man! Thank you for REPRESENTING THE BOYS
"Old school runescape 3"
World of warcraft has one subscription for as many characters as you want
yea and that was 20 years ago lol
Imagine you’re mid zuk fight, and Jagex hits you with a 30 seconds raid shadow legends ad 😂
This game is cooked
ima be playing on the rich people worlds and will have champaign and hookers while ur getting adds affufufuf
Jagex will probably get sold off before the game dies honestly
Love how Oda just says it like it is
“Don’t change anything we’re happy with everything how it is, and take out sailing” - is just the most perfect summation of exactly the community sentiment.
Its not though the majority of players voted for sailing, you gotta quit coping at some point brother.
Reminder : jagex has no actual support page. They use twitter. Upon putting in a ticket you will be spammed by phising bots trying to hack you.
Reminder jagex says your account security is your problem.
Even the messenger they sent to deliver these news seems depressed about these news lmao
is it just me or has he only been working at jagex for a short time and talking as if he's been a core part of the team for the last decade
You can tell he doesn't believe in the horseshit he's reading off the prompter.. the big gulps, and the "how tf did I end up doing this" deer in the headlights look.
Finally an issue that the entire runescape community can unite against.
Jagex hitting rock bottom and now trying to have us pay for BASIC SECURITY for the accounts. This is shameless.
They want the OSRS community to pay for their own account security LOL, kinda crazy.
@@FizzedAye I've been wondering if a company that has real consumer protection legislation claps that up. It seems too absurd to be something that exists
Imagine charging a monthly fee for people to play your game then ADDITIONALLY running ads. What a terrible business model.
That business model seems to be the running theme these days
The updated news post was a joke. They're shitty excuse is literally "oh we just asked these questions to see how people react, not because we were actually considering implementing them"
They say it like they wouldn't instantly implement it if the community said yes
Like when they did the survey about less MTX but increased cost of P2P then they instantly raised subscription fee and put in more MTX. Such a solid company.
This is a corporate strategy called Anchoring. They set out these ideas they know people will hate, people get outraged, and then roll out a little bit watered down version that isn't as bad, and the people don't get as mad because it wasn't as bad as you first thought itd be. Its legit a strategy they are using very poorly.
Especially the "reason we ask controversial questions" part of the update lmao wtf
They value your input so much they sent the emails out to people they KNOW wouldn’t respond which to them = “Yes”
Squeal of fortune/EOC bundled into one. Don’t forget sailing is dogshit. 2012 all over again
Summoning? I could use a yak and a fruit bat
As an infrequent member (once a year go on a 2 week bender) genuinely don’t understand why the hate for sailing? Again I’m a noob and looking for an explanation
@NyghtingMan someone told them its bad so a loud minority hates it and can't give a valid reason besides "its a minigame(it's not)" or "muh max cape"
@@NyghtingMan Because its a shitty mini-game not a new skill. Exactly what all the naysayers said would happen and everyone else called crazy until it couldn't be ignored when they actually started showing it off
@@nomorenames5568 oh ok, thanks for the info!
New update: If you die you have to wait 15 mins in Death office or pay .99 to get out early
Old-school EAscape
Stella about to pay for some OF ads
my god it would be the only add that and go selling websites lmfao
Of adds on osrs lmfao they picked the perfect demographic
Warding got declined but we dont even get a poll for this?
If Membership was 5-9.99$ a month, i would just let the subscription run.
Instead every couple months when i play for a few weeks, i just buy a bond with gp.
I used to just let my subscription run until they upped the prices. Now I do the same as you
Same, next thing you know they’ll make it so bonds arent buyable with gp anymore or they will completely drive the price of them up in game so we’re forced to pay for membership. If this happens I don’t think I’ll play until they change it. Just out of the sheer fact I’m a casual player and I use the gp I get to pay for bonds because I’ll feel like I’m wasting money paying that high when I only play a few times a week.
except if this happens bonds would probably become insanely expensive.
If you dont bot i bet its hard😆
Bro LMS gets me bonds cause my skilling ain't high lvl for good profit.the trouver parchments are uo frn2.1m to 3.2m now I can get those in like and hour from LMS so bonds are t that hard the pricing making me have to put more time in LMS but I refuse to give my hard earned money
Watch Europa the last battle to learn the history of the people who bought your game and also the reason why oda isn't in the sandbox
:^)
Jagex be like : "we only update if it passes the poll with 75%"
allllllrighty
I quit when that was a lie and they just push updates
Pronouns was so important they just had to do it for the 1% mentally disabled screaming 'entities' 😅
pride event and dei bs proved all that wrong
@@KFC_Manager yea true but at least that doesn’t ruin core gameplay
@@Love4Hardstyle titties? Giggedy
Very true about false bans, I got hacked and I recovered my account with a perm ban , I have appealed it and it hasn’t been looked at it’s been 2 weeks now .
Dudes casually destroying someone in pvp while just conversing with us 😂
There was once a time when every week runescape would come up with updates often with bug fixes or quests or events or whatever, now they want us to pay premiums for what amounts to a greedy ceo and his skeleton crew.
Here at jagex we're working on a more for more basis. So we currently offer 0% customer support. Therefore will double the membership and customer support, which is simple...
2 x 0% is still 0, it's a win for everyone, especially the share holders... oh, and don't worry about the degenerate player base that funds us.
I genuinely think Jagex as a studio is poor. You have to understand that a majority of their profit goes to their investors. Thats not speculation its fact. The company has been bought and sold around almost every year now, with RS3 the mtx generator declining in players.
Sad
What you mean ''improving our player support'' ??? Brother, you can't improve what you don't have! You have to make it first before it can be improved
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Vote with your wallets. Cancel your memberships and take a break from the game. Save some bank and send the message in a way Jagex cannot ignore; by hurting their bottom line. That is the only thing that will give the community the power to dictate what we want from the game. Right now all they're responding with is words and corporate speak. An actual boycott will get the REAL apology in actions.
you really think people will cancel? alot of players are addicted to this game. You will NEVER see crackheads protesting their crack dealers. These fat losers have nothing outside. it wont work
Interesting. I always thought they were doing what they could in regard to account security
This blatantly shows that they could be doing more, but just won't.... Unless... "for a small fee"
Doing would they could = nothing.
@Az__T pretty much
Love this clip channel... Breaks things down so well thank you ODA 🙏🙏
I totally agree on sailing. That shit is the exact opposite of what alot of people wanted.
I was under the impression they released multiple surveys. All surveys with different options. Makes sense as to why every player had a different subscription model to give an opinion on. They will take these results, aggregate them, and then they will use a model (or modified model) that was the most popular. And I’m 99% certain this would involve mixing and matching what we have seen.
There is no way sailing got approved, rigged shit
I want sailing
@ loser
@@mikeymike7431 oh you went sailing? fun, did you see any whales?
Yeah they literally had to change the rules to illegitimately force it to pass. Lowering the requirement from 75% to 70%.
In a game where you can instantly travel to every single place with a teleport from your house at no cost, it’ll be nothing but dead content that nobody wants to do.
Ahahaha the clue step McDonald’s box got me
I went to renew my annual membership. Didn’t realise it went up 30% already. I’m not renewing, it runs out in 5 days!
i haven't made an account since i got banned for macroing or whatever that is
@@0liverr94botting
You're membership does not go up unless you stop paying for 30 days ...
@@garrysuits I basically manually renew it each year, rather than leaving it on automatic renewal if that makes sense. It's so I don't forget about it..
cancelled mine months ago because of previous price hikes.. fuck gaygex
10:40 imagine you are mining and you get a random ad "buy dubby with 20% off today!" LOL
I bet that Devs and other Jagex employees were like "this will not fly, trust us this will be BAD" and the owners were like "hmm...we dont believe, announce it so we can see the feedback". But I bet they will implement something nontheless and then ppl will quit...
that's because that the people running the show don't even play games. They don't care as long as they can make more money no matter the cost.
@@AlkaVirusyep that's why we gotta fight back by collectively going about the long way with 3rd party stuff and not giving in by swiping the credit cards.
Many such cases and not only in game development - everywhere.
Exec that is out of touch with reality forces a change while ignoring guys with boots on the ground saying it won't work. Classic.
They 100% knew, this is a corporate strategy called anchoring. They're gonna suggest all this ridiculous shit, everybody's gonna rightfully freak out, and in the next few months when they implement these features for cheaper prices people aren't gonna be as outraged, that's how it's supposed to work at least, I hope this continues to blow up in the face of Jagex
Did you forget that Ash defended Trident? They are all corrupt. Bet 30 more egirls will get jmod by the time I post this
Jagex's player support is so trash that their "enhanced player support" is really just barely reaching back up to normal support.
jagex vid kinda just looked like mr.krabbs letting you know what he will change, but only for money
“We could do all the things you’ve wanted if you pay us, but otherwise we can’t do it” is what I heard
2:05 Yeah in the standard subscription. This is such a dishonest statement from Jagex. Nobody was asking for membership tiers lmao. People want to see basic functionality added to their already extremely expensive membership even by MMO standards.
World of warcraft is £10 a month and you can speak to support in game withing 15 mins
5:51 this very well could be something to help get rid of bots but it's also lickley an invasion of privacy I guess we will just need to wait until there is more info avalable.
This is the American corporate model coming to this game. Raise prices until you have a balance of lower customers but still the same revenue. MTX will be soon after this, once they cut the OSRS staff to RS3 size and probably reduce servers as well. Damn they will be making so much money.
Let's hope they don't.
CVC is European but okay
@vessar1571 and whats the relevance? This is still the American business model.
@@fatheadjonny8955European companies don’t follow a similar business model? L O L, laughed out loud at that one. Gagex has been greedy since their pre-EOC days, it starts with their lead developers and not a single one of them were/are American….. all from Europe.
This does not work on MMOs and MOBAs because a small number of players creates a domino effect, where the remaining players get frustrated and quit due to difficulties in trading, finding, or interacting with others in a timely manner, leading to a further reduction in the player base. Also, this game has a lot of bots, and if there aren't enough people willing to buy bonds, the bots will quit as well.
The McDonalds puzzle got me dying 😂
6:10 It's not free though... We pay for a subscription that they already recently increased. They just don't care to offer the service at all.
This is what happens when you let people/companies have a monopoly over ideas (copyright) you KNOW they wouldn't try this shit if there was other competing OSRS servers.
Jagex wants to charge so much money for features that WoW has had for a decade, Oh and for half the price.
Yea true but let's not pretend that actiblizzard is any better
bro that McDonalds add at Zuk is the best representation of all of this summed up in one meme.
What mod is that? Seems like they threw him to the wolves. He knows this is bad news and he knows he’s the face of it now. He looks terrified.
😂😂 Oda thank you for representing everything that i would want said publicly on my behalf about this. Thank you for your use of platform to battle this nonsense
No way that guy works at JamFlex. He's brown
Jagex in the last two years only hires if you’re a minority, lgbt or depressed - you must have missed the memo. Why do you think all these bad changes are happening?
what are you saying about my Nigha?
This is straight up like the scene from ready player one where the bad guy intern is offering different payment plans for the game 💀
GTA 6 is coming out anyways about to buy a PS5. Peace out RS canceled my membership I’m good.
greedy jagex
Jagex looked at what blizzard did to overwatch and said "hold my beer"
I guess y'all didn't know. RuneScape classic used to be fully web based and ran from a webpage. They had ads back then. I remember to combat the laggy ads, there was a trick by zooming in the ad to have it hyper zoomed into less pixels.
Them moving backwards is wild.
But I can confidently tell you. If they raise members, I will officially quit. I love osrs because I'm a super old head from 01. But I have too much real life going on so if I'm having to pay $20+ a month to play, it just will give me the ultimate reason to officially cut ties from RuneScape forever and I will 100% do it
I don't understand how companies would risk everything for short term gain. I will never.
So the company owner can sell the company to another group of investors who have no idea that the company is dying.
I was thinking about returning to OSRS I'm glad they made my choice for me.
Oda, you are the face for MOST of the RS community, you have achieved alot!
WE NEED YOU, to tell GAGEX this is the last straw, we will show them how petty we can be just as EOC
we will MASS quit this game if this happends. its eoc all over again brother.
I'm not waiting for oldschool oldschool runescape. We're grown up. I will quit and never look back
It was a fun ride to release my inner child again in osrs but i will never again, i've maxed, i've done what i wanted.
The new membership tiers are terrible. That being said so is DMM, it should never have a prize pool. Calling a company greedy but demanding a prize pool in order to make an unbearable event watchable (it won't be) is a joke too.
This was the best troll video ever lmao. I was howling!!!!😂😂😂
The McDs clue scroll puzzle at the end has me crying
the thing that gets me the most about this is how excited jagex was about this survey, there were three newsblog posts mentioning it i knew of, pretty sure i seen highlighted mods talk about it on reddit and even the ingame notification bar mentioned it to keep an eye out for it.
also, prices going up before got dogshit reasons, started 5 bucks a month, went up to 7 or 8 to help servers cuz ddos attacks were bad, went to 11 dollars just cuz, and then this recent 30%increase to 14 a month for no reason other than them saying "btw its going up 30%"
now they want to provide basic account help that any other game at this level already does, for 25 a month. and thats not even including "add bonus account"
nah bro the ad pictures had me dying so many memes coming from this
That poor lad had to sit there and spew this drivel with a straight face. He deserves a raise.
Imagine being last row at TOA in a 500 Invocation that you've been trying for weeks and getting a Temu ad
🙄
"Inshallah sit rat ofufufufuuuu"
I’m a pilot and they are trying to do something similar with our ATC. I’m not sure if ads over the radio would ever be a thing… but that’s the running joke with nextgen…. Imagine landing at an airport, but you need to play an ad for the pax first.
May day may day may day.
Sorry you havent upgraded your radio rights you are only allowed to use pan pan
Ads in any form while playing a game is insane
*laughs in mobile gaming*
At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if Gagex locks Sailing behind a subscription plan.
13:00 nah the McD puzzle box had me weak LOL