Dodgy "Sponsorships" Are Tricking Small Streamers

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  • @StreamScheme
    @StreamScheme  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    To clarify a few points, because I know nobody will watch in full. 1. The major issue is the misleading emails and campaign offers promoting thousands of dollars, when in reality most won't earn that. 2. I think ANY pay to a creator is awesome, but I think these deals are underpaying the majority of you, for what you're generating for these brands. 3. I know there are positive experiences, but it's important to step back from our personal positive experiences, and look at how the wider community is being effected by things like this, and finally... 4. I love StreamElements as a service, I think its an amazing tool, I just want them to be more ethical in how they promote, payout, and onboard creators to there campaigns.
    If I can make entire videos on how Streamlabs is doing unethical, gross, or misleading attempts to take money out of Streamers pockets, then I would be doing a disservice to my audience if I didn't speak up on things like this just because the brand is positively viewed by the majority.

    • @MihauRit
      @MihauRit 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      > I know nobody will watch in full.
      I watched in full. Don't worry.

    • @Yakikitsu
      @Yakikitsu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MihauRit same

    • @jazzylev
      @jazzylev 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MihauRitsame here!

    • @RantsOrFacts
      @RantsOrFacts 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Appreciate the honesty

    • @GoldenCharacterDesign
      @GoldenCharacterDesign 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Don't count us out! Watched in full as well.

  • @ArkSurvivalMom
    @ArkSurvivalMom 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I use SE for their free overlays and for handling my tips/donations, but that's it. I read the fine print on these offers and just said nope!

  • @ultragamerb5574
    @ultragamerb5574 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I’m so glad this video popped up in my notifications. I just set up my stream elements account, without much expectations. Now I know what to look for when I check in with it later on Twitch!

    • @MatomicEntertainment
      @MatomicEntertainment 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i use stream elements for free overlays honestly wish this process was more relationship fulfilling than a place im just posting links to feel like the sponsors are makin streaming weird

  • @GetAwesomeGaming
    @GetAwesomeGaming 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Honestly i'm small enough that I just assume everything is a scam. I think the issue would really only come if i get large enough to where i would have to debate the worth of my brand to actual legitimate sponsors

    • @HandsTurn
      @HandsTurn 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True. And even if I were to get big enough, I think I'd rather get sponsors that aren't related. Like how LTT is sometimes sponsored by that shoe company.

    • @illogicalbear6200
      @illogicalbear6200 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol saaaaame

    • @OCTOBANKZ
      @OCTOBANKZ 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Faaaaaaacts I second this

    • @Daliovos800
      @Daliovos800 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I thought it was all pretty sketchy anyway 😂

    • @charlesedwinbooks
      @charlesedwinbooks 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Honestly you'd be surprised at what companies are willing to work with regardless of size.
      I used to peak at around 10 avg viewers and I had sponsor / affiliate link with Oats Overnight. All I had to do was mention the product at least once per stream. They always sent me free product, folks used the link, I had a good relationship with my contact there. IMO reach out to brands you like and see what happens.
      I reached out to square enix once, expecting no reply, and their person's reply was super nice despite turning me down.

  • @raivendf6606
    @raivendf6606 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Bruh. This popping up 4 hours ago after I've been looking info about channel sponsorships... and the day after thinking about stream scheme again... must be fate to watch it.

  • @that_metal_chick
    @that_metal_chick 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    It reminds me of the Techni Sport chair thing in 2018.. everyone was a game chair salesman. Some of these are just pyramid schemes smh

  • @Daedraflame
    @Daedraflame 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I can totally relate. I was blacklisted from sponsorship offers because one of my viewers went overboard trying to help out with the promotion. While I understand that it wasn’t ideal and I take responsibility, it’s frustrating that they offer no chance for reconciliation. Once you’re blacklisted, it’s like a permanent sentence-no matter how much you apologize or promise to improve, they just won’t give you another opportunity.
    Losing that extra income as a small creator is tough. But honestly, how are you supposed to control your audience if they decide to rally everyone, including their grandma, to sign up? Are creators expected to sit there reciting the terms and conditions instead of focusing on promoting the product?
    In hindsight, I’m glad I got banned from their offers-the games weren’t great anyway.
    Thanks for the awesome video, Eljay!

  • @HandsTurn
    @HandsTurn 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    This sounds like MLM but worse.

  • @yauklin
    @yauklin 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Glad you decided to make the vid, and to post it to warn others! much respect

  • @Shiggstream
    @Shiggstream 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Back when I tried streaming, I got a bunch of these offers with my 2 avg viewership, but even a cursory scan of the opening paragraph made it apparent they were scams.

  • @mrandmrsbearau
    @mrandmrsbearau 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Love the Richard Nixon impression at 4:04

  • @ItsMeekoYT
    @ItsMeekoYT 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Incredibly informative video! I did a total of 4 SE sponsors back when I did streaming, made a pretty nice amount and then was restricted due to unfortunate circumstances; Unless you have a good audience to warrant doing these sponsors, it mostly just comes down to you asking friends and family to do it for you and then getting paid a very low amount because quite a lot of people wont download these games, or they have already done it for another streamer before. I also always wonder how these companies manage to pay out creators thousands of dollars and still manage to profit off said sponsors. Incredible video again, cant wait for next weeks!

  • @MuirlySims
    @MuirlySims 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I 100% agree with what you've said here. SE and their fake "sponsorships" are robbing Content Creators and stuff like this needs to stop.
    I've only accepted two of SE's "sponsorships". the reason? both gave me a base flat rate with bonuses if x number of people signed up. The flat rate was $30 USD per 2 hour long campaign. Not even minimum wage where I live (UK), but I really needed the money. It put a bit of food on the table. I haven't been given a base rate payment offer in ages, so I haven't done any of their sponsorships since.

  • @ShaunRF
    @ShaunRF 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'll add my voice to the reports about the signups disappearing after the campaign ends. I know a streamer that was using these offers to fund PC giveaways for his community. The payouts being drastically cut after it ended were a big blow to him.

  • @inwils
    @inwils 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I've tried to do the sponsorship as a small streamer twice, and twice, they have refused to give me any cash. Both times, their widget failed, and even though they initially asked me to send a list of the goals I achieved, they then changed their mind and refused payment. I am not doing them anymore.

  • @beardogetsscared
    @beardogetsscared 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm glad someone has covered this. The entire thing is cruel to small streamers. Maybe a idea for you for a future video, the dangerous spam accounts pretending to be davinci resolve, monster energy and other larger companies that look authentic but send people zip files for assets instead of mp4. Basically unleashing viruses etc on people's machines. I've thought about covering it myself but it doesn't align with my content so nonone would see it

  • @alderoth01
    @alderoth01 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I tried this once and it didn't make sense. They require you to alter so much on your personal pages, where real sponsorships don't seem to require the same. It's just weird. I haven't done another one.

  • @Video_Hamster
    @Video_Hamster 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks for the heads-up!!
    Do you have any advise for a small streamer? (Avg of 8 viewrs on Twitch, 12 on TH-cam)
    What's a legitimate way to find actual sponserships on?

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Grow mate :) You're not going to get legit sponsors till you're larger, focus on external content like TH-cam videos, make valuable content, and grow first.

  • @chrono32123
    @chrono32123 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've done a few campaigns and made in total around $600 bucks over the last 3 years.
    The best ones were Hello Fresh and Factor. The worst ones have been the mobile games. Genshin Impact did alright.
    I think it comes down to my willingness to push a product. food services are super easy, do you like to eat but hate deciding what to eat?
    The games ones required people to click through several pages for it to count and several people did the base goals so I got a decent payout but Star Trek Fleet Command was THE WORST ONE to try and get people to play.
    My rule is this: if I want to play it, why not do the campaign and get other people on-board? My viewership is pretty low so I know not that many people are signing up while I'm live. However, I have done facebook ads and social media posts to push and got a few extra conversions that I wouldn't have actually gotten.
    None of the current game campaigns are interesting though and I just finished the Honkai Star Rail one and my wife was the only signup that actually did all of the goals over the course of the campaign. So I made about $50 bucks for my wife just playing a game she now enjoys.

  • @MatomicEntertainment
    @MatomicEntertainment 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    frothing out the mouth got the like

  • @pizzaman-3-d4b
    @pizzaman-3-d4b 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    damn, i thought streamelements was better than this

    • @RifterArchive
      @RifterArchive 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can taste the sarcasm

  • @The1nteger
    @The1nteger 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yep, this video was needed. The practice is misleading and unhelpful in many cases, taking advantage of non established / broke Creator's inexperience and desperation.

  • @GloknarBald
    @GloknarBald 35 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Im a very small streamer whos just starting out. 2 average viewers usually in a 4 hour stream. Ive been offered these "sponsorships" as well. BUT! I dont think they are ver misleading at all. The key phrase i noticed was "UP TO" however much money. All i had to do was click on the offer and see that it was clearly performance based and something i cant achieve right now. If you're small and getting excited about offers like this, take a step back and actually read through the requirements before you think youve just hit a gold mine. All it takes is slight critical thinking to realize that these deals are impossible to make money off of as a brand new streamer.

  • @TheBigGeordieGeek
    @TheBigGeordieGeek วันที่ผ่านมา

    I spent about 3 seconds reading the first email, realised it was a scam and just ignore them now

  • @crestcoasttattoos
    @crestcoasttattoos 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    yes i just did one and unbelievable taking it off

  • @streamrsm1009
    @streamrsm1009 40 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    The thing that made me mad was that you only find out what the goals are after you have already accepted the sponsorship. Obviously they do that because if the streamer saw what they have to do they wouldn't accept the sponsorship.

  • @ShocktorGaming
    @ShocktorGaming 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been getting these offers for "sponsorships" since day 1 of streaming three years ago... I was excited at first, then laughed it off when I saw the criteria. Now, I gauge how well my streams are doing based on the "sponsorships" offers I get.... if I see [certain non-games sponsorships] [EDITED out the names], (those are still not good by the criteria) I realize that my streams are doing better. When I see "Raid Shadow Legends" I start thinking of retiring....

  • @CaptainJackedPickle
    @CaptainJackedPickle 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Scammers going to Scam.
    "take what you can, give nothing back"
    -Pirates of the Caribbean
    also 3 minutes after vid dropped
    Great video
    Cheers

  • @SpookyNaz
    @SpookyNaz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For anyone curious, yes the offer amount is less compared to covid. I received $500 for a 2hr stream and 20 signups for the Raid Sponsorship.

  • @ShOwOba
    @ShOwOba 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this plus the twitch ai cat emote fiasco has gotten me a lot more weary about the environment that streamers inhabit now, what's the next thing that these companies are gonna do to betray the creators that depend on them for a living?

    • @comedyblastYT
      @comedyblastYT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wait, I haven't heard of this yet, what happened??

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In short, Twitch used AI to make Christmas Emotes this year rather than artists cause in October they hired streamer artists to make global emotes and the artists received hundreds of harassing messages and death threats from streamers and twitch viewers who didn’t like the emotes.

    • @comedyblastYT
      @comedyblastYT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@StreamScheme oh that's awful in so many ways! Those poor artists 😵‍💫 people really need to chill sometimes

  • @packmanisback
    @packmanisback 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    all of my "sponsorships" are $400 or less, even with raid. I was super happy when it first showed up shortly after i started streaming. However, after reading it, i found out id make nothing since at the time there was no base pay for streaming/promoting them for 2+ hours, and i had no viewers at all. So ive been ignoring them for the past couple years.

  • @singleplayermoments
    @singleplayermoments 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do appreciate this! I have gotten these emails and I did think they seemed too good to be true. I haven't taken them yet because I imagine the very few people who do watch me would be turned off by a sponsored stream, but I've always kept them in mind. Guess I won't be bothering now!

  • @naits95
    @naits95 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i've stopped getting these sponsorships, in fact, my list of "sponsorships" in streamelements is completely empty now?

  • @RifterArchive
    @RifterArchive 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The funny thing is i know its Raid because i accepted this same campaign on my own MoyDee channel. I know i wont get big money, but if i can make $50 then thats a little money towards a new bit of gear or my capcut subscription. Another guy that streams and makes cintent with me was able to get a steelseries mic and arm from it. I would love to be a full time creator. I know these are lies, and im being taken advantage of.

  • @hardstucklive
    @hardstucklive 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Some of theirs are decent though. I was averaging 20 viewers and did a factor sponsorship for them. 4 hours of sponsored streaming and I made $600. Only had a few people sign up for the service.

  • @QuietStormSimmer
    @QuietStormSimmer 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I thought it was weird I was getting these emails. I’m glad I didn’t bite though.

  • @Parts_Guy
    @Parts_Guy 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    While I understand and appreciate that the majority of this video is for streamers to know their worth and to keep their expectations realistic, I also appreciate that you make a point to show that some of the sponsorships can have an actual base pay instead of it all requiring "new users." Unfortunately, some of these "base pays" are hidden as "bonus pay" and require a 30 minute "play with your community" session, like in the Genshin Impact sponsorship I looked at.

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think overall a major flaw is also how inconsistent every campaign is, I understand what you’ve written but imagining someone who didn’t just make a whole video on the tool trying to decipher the differences you’re explaining… I just can’t.

    • @Parts_Guy
      @Parts_Guy วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@StreamScheme I agree with your sentiment of "do not recommend" for these sponsorships. Especially for people that are unfamiliar with these in the first. Sorry if my comment gave off the wrong impression of "Yes, do it." (Posted it before going to sleep so I didn't think about how my comment was worded. I like that you reply on comments that may need a "yes, but" addition or comment instead of leaving them up to interpretation by others.)

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I didn't take that away from it, I thought your comment was saying they're inconsistent, and confusing hahaha so I was agreeing

    • @Parts_Guy
      @Parts_Guy วันที่ผ่านมา

      @StreamScheme Oh yes lol.

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Text is brutal lmao

  • @Raz_Games_
    @Raz_Games_ 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I kept seeing this in my email as a SUPER small streamer and I was always suspicious. I also just stream for fun and I'm not trying to get rich off of it. Thanks for the super informative video!!

  • @FriendlyMinecrafter1
    @FriendlyMinecrafter1 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Idk when I was streaming and averaging 15-20 viewers a stream, anything that seemed too good to be true I assumed was lol

  • @ShadwPhoenix
    @ShadwPhoenix วันที่ผ่านมา

    I also got some of these emails for a streamelements "sponsor" i just knew it wasnt going to payout anywhere near what they were promising so i just deleted the email and moved on xD I dont even look at the sponserships section in their dashboard xD (keep in mind the most viewers i had on one stream was 4, by all means people should not be coming to me for sponsors)

  • @theritaradar
    @theritaradar 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I learned the hard way. Thank you for this information. It is valuable.

  • @ravensrolltop
    @ravensrolltop 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yet another reason to use OBS. Thank you for the video.

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      StreamElements is a tool that is built to work with OBS.

  • @thumbtacos4307
    @thumbtacos4307 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If it’s too good to be true, it probably is.

  • @KevinFarnsworthh
    @KevinFarnsworthh 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good video and information. Some feedback, maybe provide some insight from other content creators. Some of this could be misleading unless you provide some references or sources.

  • @MAVOmusicYT
    @MAVOmusicYT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I got so far 800$ from Raid Shadow Legends. Only reason cuz i know the game and know how to speed level and some other secret stuff.
    Then they increased requirements for the same money which already way above my knowledge how to do them for free in small time range.
    Was cool boost but now they just want you to have banner on and make them some clicks for free.

  • @Cable-GC
    @Cable-GC 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a Very new small streamer averaging 0-1 views on stream, the spam and scamming is very high. I only stream to record content for my channel, but its actually quite bad. Please note, no one legit will contact you while streaming. Stream elements wanted me to do some deal, but i got actually no one watching my streams, its dodgy af.

  • @st_cuthbert544
    @st_cuthbert544 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good vid I like almost everything about it BUT
    How do we find GENUINE sponsorships? Cause I (and I assume many others) do not know.
    And why assume noone watches in full? I always watch your complete vids... weird shout

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because I can see the average retention rate on the video.
      And the second question, most people aren’t big enough to find genuine sponsors, when you grow an established and proper audience, you can talk to real brands and they’ll also want to talk to you.

  • @Hunterman9924
    @Hunterman9924 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    not gonna lie I literally did the same exact thing he did have streamed in over two years on twitch and I decided the other day to start streaming on both sites and then the very next morning 21 offers of things I will not be able to reach

  • @JeiceTwiggs
    @JeiceTwiggs วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So uhh... might wanna blur smth out at 13:27 lmao

    • @forthosebehind
      @forthosebehind วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yea ascii or not im shocked its managed to stay up even this long

    • @JeiceTwiggs
      @JeiceTwiggs วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ ikr? It's extremely annoyong bc many many years ago when I wanted to post a little music video ( screen recording of the Beepbox website that lets you make chiptune stuff ) youtube struck my channel for having sexual and explicit imagery. HOW IS A WHITE BAR MOVING OVER MUSIC NOTES SEXUALLY EXPLICIT?!?!
      but yeah, that strike still haunts me bc they didn't just strike me, they logged me out and threatened to terminate my channel.
      Cool stuff

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s a clip from a video I uploaded 2 years ago, no issues.

  • @PLAYCOREE
    @PLAYCOREE 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah, Harris heller lost massiv respect from me when he did that streamelements sponsorship that was just about those "sponsorship"

  • @EdgardB
    @EdgardB 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When I use to stream they tried that shit with me lol. I knew better 😂😂

  • @theadventuresofsolykos
    @theadventuresofsolykos 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds like a MLM scheme

  • @pojoh2585
    @pojoh2585 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I disagree.
    I used to stream with 5 viewers on average.
    And we agreed to not give money to Twitch with subs, but to be engaged during those sponsored stream.
    A viewer preferred to play during 2h with me and let me earn 10-40eu thanks to him, than to pay 5eu for a sub.
    And in fact, I won almost 200eu.
    It's really "easy" to win money with those systems.
    And yes, as a small streamer, 200eu is HUGE.
    You can buy a new cam and a new mic.
    It's huge.
    Of course Stream Elements is earning more money than us, like all the sponsors out there.
    But I was still earning money myself. So that's ok.

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      To clarify, what part do you disagree with?
      This comment feels like you didn't finish the video, because several sentences you say I echo and agree with in the video.
      I simply want them to be more ethical in their outreach, show a more accurate sum of money, show a more accurate number of hours required, etc

  • @Noble1717
    @Noble1717 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    yeaaaaaaa. saw that an was like, noooo. Beware my dudes, if they wanna give you money, be hella skeptical.

  • @ArshPlaysChess
    @ArshPlaysChess 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can u link ur streaming channel please ?

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey, as I explain in my growth videos, if the content is something you'd like, TH-cam will recommend it to you.
      But if I promote it here, I'll get dead subs who don't actually like or engage your content which kills the channel.

  • @blksuit
    @blksuit วันที่ผ่านมา

    If it sounds too good to be true....💯💯

  • @redbeardedviking8087
    @redbeardedviking8087 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How can we get real sponsorships

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      By growing a substantial audience, and working with real reputable brands.
      When you're small and starting out, focus on the content and the audience, not what you can get.

  • @JpFaux
    @JpFaux 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Needed to be said

  • @WvlfeTV
    @WvlfeTV 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is no such thing as free money, nobody is paying for 0 viewership streams. Although, Raiders Shadow Legends can kick rocks either way, until they make a real game. Lol

    • @StreamScheme
      @StreamScheme  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, that's the problem.
      Creators, with small communities, are doing hours of work advertising to their small communities and not being paid.
      And they're sending the emails out to literally anyone and everyone for pure numbers.

    • @WvlfeTV
      @WvlfeTV 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@StreamScheme
      Indeed, it's a very predatory method of trying to get advertising.
      I'm very much in the camp of a streamer that is very small and gets no viewers. I don't really check my email because I know there isn't anything in there for me to consider in terms of business. I have seen the promotions, and generally I just assume it's too good to be true and ignore it.
      Getting paid for the hours one day would be nice, overall what I meant was if it's too good to be true, it is. I would like for something different to happen in this regard, because people do need to get paid for the time.

  • @TonyPlaysIt
    @TonyPlaysIt วันที่ผ่านมา

    😅dubby don't forget dubby

  • @Eazyrun
    @Eazyrun 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought this'll on the topic of Josh Strife Hayes video on MapleStory lol
    Regardless, I've lost some respect towards a majprity of the studios displayed ngl. This is disgusting.

  • @rickswanracing3139
    @rickswanracing3139 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just hope to make affiliate :)

  • @MardaxGames
    @MardaxGames 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You say I can make my friend + me to sign to mobile app and reach few goals to earn me few bucks? :D

  • @ProwlerGamesOfficial
    @ProwlerGamesOfficial 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hi

  • @HexVisualNovelPlaythroughs
    @HexVisualNovelPlaythroughs 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    getting 500 subs my goal 1st