Hi Jorge, thanks for your kind words. While installing, you will be asked to choose a location for the folder; otherwise, it will be put somewhere on your system by default. You can redo the installation and choose a location you would remember. After that, you need to drag and drop a green GHA file onto your grasshopper canvas. That's it. In the same folder there are example files as well. I have a new version ready. Will release it soon. Please consider joining the group on the forum for updates, reporting issues and wishes.
Hi Paul, good question... by building a graph from axial lines using this component you can do all analyses on this graph as well. It is a bit slow in the current released version, but there will be improvements and additions in the version we are going to release soon (local analyses, faster graph formation process and a whole bunch of new components for plan topology generation).
Thank you for your quick answer. I'm trying now to improve the definition to be able to read excel sheets via Ghowl or something. Also, the analysis tools you provided gave me an insight I had never thought about before. Great job ! Cheers from Brussels.
hi Mr.Nourian. im really glad to see your amazing work.good job.im Ma student of architecter in iran, and i want to start my thesis in this month, and i want to work on space syntax theory, i recently found out that this theory in architecture level is very young, and you worked on it, i want aks you to keep in touch with you and help me a little bit about this field and software if its possible...thank you very much
Hasan Bazaz Zadeh Hi, thanks for your compliments. You are welcome to join our group and ask 'technical questions'; but I am unable to provide further in depth support for any graduation project as I have many obligations at TU Delft next to my own PhD.
Hi, unfortunately I did not record a sound track back in 2013... If you have questions, please post them on our page in the GH forum: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
Hey Pirouz, incredible job building space syntax! its a very powerful tool. I am having a little trouble though, when i imput all my points (62) the program names clunk all up together and when i try to move each individual point further, for some reason some of the text scales to a larger size, is it a bug? Cheers
Nicolas Rawitscher Torres Hi, thanks for your compliments; could you please post your issue on our forum? Could be that the graph you are trying to work with is not planar. Please attach pictures if possible. Cheers www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
@@atelierholmes Hi, the latest version we put on Food4Rhino was a test release with Rhino6. We did not manage to finish it but my students are currently using the older one from my website without any issue. A remedy was posted recently on our forum page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
Hey Pirouz, I'm really interested in the applications for this but I ran into some problems maybe you could help me with. I want to import agent groups from an excel sheet with different relation properties and use Space Syntax and Kangaroo to create a 4D relation diagram. How can I have multiple points with the same label and what would be the best way to implement the kangaroo physics engine? I really hope you could help me as I'm stuck on it for some time now. Thank you in advance :)
Hi, please post the issue on our forum www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax; there is a code snippet in C# that I have posted there a while ago for baking the bubble chart. For baking the other things we still need to update them in Python for the new version.
Hi Rutger, a couple of our group members have shared their Kangaroo definitions for spatial layout. I think it would be more efficient if you follow this matter through our group on Grasshopper3D website. You will need to introduce springs for attraction forces and a force following power law for the repulsion forces. This is the basic idea of our 'force-directed' graph drawing algorithm. The interactions of these two groups of forces might lead the system to an equilibrium state and thereby result in a nice graph drawing. However, there is no guarantee for convergence of such algorithms in general. Ours is not an exception.
Hi, you can ask your questions in our forum page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax and read our papers, which are all referenced there. I hope that helps
1. Solution exception:Object reference not set to an instance of an object. I get this error when I change the boolean toggle to true for the force directed graph. What is the solution to this? Everything disappears in one of the rhino files.
Hello, great tool! I am exploring the use of it in small airport terminals. I tried following the tutorial above but have reached a problem with the DiskoGraph stating "1. Solution exception:Object reference not set to an instance of an object." I was wondering how I could resolve this? Cheers!
Hello Kim, could you please check the list of answers in our forum to similar questions? www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax There are multiple reasons for this problem namely the impossibility of making a coin-graph drawing due to the incompatible radii of the disks with the graph structure; as to which you can try lowering the attraction and repulsion strengths of the force-driected graph drawing component (discograph). A common mistake is that people use strange units like milimetres for working with a building model and thus end up with numbers in very different orders of magnitudes in their GH and RH files. I would only use metres for Space Syntax studies.
Hi, you are probably downloading the tools from one of the legacy locations, please try installing the one on this page: genesis-lab.dev/products/syntactic/
Hi Pirouz, Your plug-in look really good! I want to use it for my architecture project, but when I install it the plug-in isn't full. Some of components missed. I downloaded file from food4rhino and from Space Syntax . I tried many ways for intalling, but still it doesn't work. So, I want to ask : Is it possible to get full version pulg-in?
Hi, thanks for your compliments; sorry for this late response, for quick communication please post your issues on www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax. There is a remedy suggested by one of the forum members for this particular issue.
Hi, Pirouz! His work is amazing! Congrats! Can you help me how to install? I did the auto install, but nothing appears on Grasshopper ... also can not activate it by Rhino ...
Hi Jorge, I am seeing this now, you need to have an up to date Rhino and Grasshopper, then after completing the installation you get a folder where you specify during installation, which contains a GHA file and example files. You need to drag and drop the GHA file onto your GH canvas. Then open the example files. If something went wrong, please post your issues on our forum page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
Hi Pirouz, I downloaded the Space Syntax but it doesn't have the DiskGraphDrawing icon and one more, as shown at your video. I have less options in my Syntactic and that causes me a problem, I cannot run properly the programm. What should I do?
hi Nikoletta, you must have downloaded it from Food4Rhino. That version is unfortunately incomplete. Please take it from my own website. BTW, please post your tech questions on the forum; I do not notice questions so often in here.
Hi Omar Chenge Said, thanks for your kind words; the Weighted Voronoi draws a Voroni diagram which can be weighted as to values associated to input points. It considers those values as radii of circles drawn from those points and the intersects them accordingly. For further technical questions; may I suggest that we continue on our forum page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax.
Hi Pirouz! Thanks a lot for this great plug in ! I'm getting an error while building the algorithm, it's written "object reference not set to an instance of an object" do you know what does it mean and how resolve it ? Thanks again !
Isabelle Camille Tertrais Hi, thanks for your compliments. That could be because an input is missing or in an unexpected shape for a component. Could you please post your issue with the files attached on our forum page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
Hi Pirouz! Your job is amazing! I'm starting to work with grasshopper in university and i`m really interested in a possible application of space syntax in social housing. So your work is all i ever dreamed. hahaha I downloaded your new release(2.7) but couldn't understand why the graphs that look like rooms (step 3-b and 4 in your paper) do not actualize when i change the value in the Gene Pool. Is still in development? Thank you anyway! Greetings from Brazil!
hi, thanks for your compliments, that is something we did not finish (section 3-b). We are currently investigating alternative ideas. Sorry for this very late reaction, somehow I had not noticed the comments for a few years! For Q&A, please use our forum page www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
Hi @Pirouz Nourian i am new to space syntax looking to explore for small project . I am hesitantly asking you where can i download the latest version of grasshopper plugin. I have installed syntactic from your website but it does not work in rhino grasshopper . kindly reply
Hi Sharath, I answer technical questions on this page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax On the same page you can find a link to my personal website for downloading the latest version of the plugin.
Hi, the current version might be slow in handling big graphs. But 21 nodes should not be a problem. You can post your file in the forum, we will then check it. I suspect you have a non-planar graph and you are trying to get a bubble diagram out of our tools. Your graphs must be planar, that is, it must be possible to draw them on a piece of paper without any two edges crossing one another.
I did not define it myself, I got the name and the idea from a paper by Hillier, Hanson and Peponis in 1987. my interpretation is as follows: the higher the entropy the more difficult it is to reach other spaces from that space
Hi all, we released a new version yesterday including tools not shown in this video. You can get the new package from sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/syntactic-design
and its slides: www.researchgate.net/publication/350922877_Open_Source_Participatory_Design_and_Construction_of_Open_Buildings_Affordable_'Haute_Couture'_for_the_Masses_by_means_of_Design-Build_Games
Hi there, I invite you to use the papers describing this approach and the other tools related to this project on my personal website and on researchgate. sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/syntactic-design The longest version of my stories in my PhD dissertation: sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/configraphics and the papers are on www.researchgate.net/profile/Pirouz_Nourian You can help us continue this work by citing these papers in your papers.
Hi Jorge, thanks for your kind words. While installing, you will be asked to choose a location for the folder; otherwise, it will be put somewhere on your system by default. You can redo the installation and choose a location you would remember. After that, you need to drag and drop a green GHA file onto your grasshopper canvas. That's it. In the same folder there are example files as well. I have a new version ready. Will release it soon. Please consider joining the group on the forum for updates, reporting issues and wishes.
Hi Paul, good question... by building a graph from axial lines using this component you can do all analyses on this graph as well. It is a bit slow in the current released version, but there will be improvements and additions in the version we are going to release soon (local analyses, faster graph formation process and a whole bunch of new components for plan topology generation).
Thank you for your quick answer. I'm trying now to improve the definition to be able to read excel sheets via Ghowl or something. Also, the analysis tools you provided gave me an insight I had never thought about before. Great job ! Cheers from Brussels.
PAULEFORIE My pleasure. Very happy to hear that! Cheers from Netherlands!
hi Mr.Nourian. im really glad to see your amazing work.good job.im Ma student of architecter in iran, and i want to start my thesis in this month, and i want to work on space syntax theory, i recently found out that this theory in architecture level is very young, and you worked on it, i want aks you to keep in touch with you and help me a little bit about this field and software if its possible...thank you very much
Hasan Bazaz Zadeh Hi, thanks for your compliments. You are welcome to join our group and ask 'technical questions'; but I am unable to provide further in depth support for any graduation project as I have many obligations at TU Delft next to my own PhD.
Thanks a lot for your support. Please let us know if you have any suggestions. comments or wishes for the future releases.
Hi! Is there any problem with the sound in your Space Syntax videos or is it intentionally muted like that? Thank you!
Hi, unfortunately I did not record a sound track back in 2013... If you have questions, please post them on our page in the GH forum: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
@@pirouzaan Hi! Thank you for replying me.
Hi Pirouz, Amazing work ! Just a question : I don't understand the utility of the isolated axial lines at the end. Could you develop a bit? Cheers
Hey Pirouz, incredible job building space syntax! its a very powerful tool. I am having a little trouble though, when i imput all my points (62) the program names clunk all up together and when i try to move each individual point further, for some reason some of the text scales to a larger size, is it a bug?
Cheers
Nicolas Rawitscher Torres Hi, thanks for your compliments; could you please post your issue on our forum? Could be that the graph you are trying to work with is not planar. Please attach pictures if possible. Cheers
www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
It looks like there are some components missing in the current version - how does this now work?
@@atelierholmes Hi, the latest version we put on Food4Rhino was a test release with Rhino6. We did not manage to finish it but my students are currently using the older one from my website without any issue. A remedy was posted recently on our forum page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
Hey Pirouz, I'm really interested in the applications for this but I ran into some problems maybe you could help me with. I want to import agent groups from an excel sheet with different relation properties and use Space Syntax and Kangaroo to create a 4D relation diagram. How can I have multiple points with the same label and what would be the best way to implement the kangaroo physics engine? I really hope you could help me as I'm stuck on it for some time now. Thank you in advance :)
Pirouz is it possible to do a small video on how to get from the Graph drawing to a conceptual geometry?
same
Hey Pirouz .. thank you for your work.
i had a problem baking the work ( followed your video step by step) any ideas ?
Hi, please post the issue on our forum www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax; there is a code snippet in C# that I have posted there a while ago for baking the bubble chart. For baking the other things we still need to update them in Python for the new version.
Hi Rutger, a couple of our group members have shared their Kangaroo definitions for spatial layout. I think it would be more efficient if you follow this matter through our group on Grasshopper3D website. You will need to introduce springs for attraction forces and a force following power law for the repulsion forces. This is the basic idea of our 'force-directed' graph drawing algorithm. The interactions of these two groups of forces might lead the system to an equilibrium state and thereby result in a nice graph drawing. However, there is no guarantee for convergence of such algorithms in general. Ours is not an exception.
Hello. The video has no sound. How can I have a guide to use this plugin?
Hi, you can ask your questions in our forum page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax and read our papers, which are all referenced there. I hope that helps
1. Solution exception:Object reference not set to an instance of an object. I get this error when I change the boolean toggle to true for the force directed graph. What is the solution to this? Everything disappears in one of the rhino files.
Is there a part 2?
please any one guide me how to install space syntax plugin in grasshooper.
Hello, great tool! I am exploring the use of it in small airport terminals. I tried following the tutorial above but have reached a problem with the DiskoGraph stating "1. Solution exception:Object reference not set to an instance of an object." I was wondering how I could resolve this?
Cheers!
Hello Kim, could you please check the list of answers in our forum to similar questions? www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax There are multiple reasons for this problem namely the impossibility of making a coin-graph drawing due to the incompatible radii of the disks with the graph structure; as to which you can try lowering the attraction and repulsion strengths of the force-driected graph drawing component (discograph). A common mistake is that people use strange units like milimetres for working with a building model and thus end up with numbers in very different orders of magnitudes in their GH and RH files. I would only use metres for Space Syntax studies.
Hello, I don't see some plugin tools, for example "DiskoGraphDrawing". What I can do? thanks
Hi, you are probably downloading the tools from one of the legacy locations, please try installing the one on this page: genesis-lab.dev/products/syntactic/
Hi Pirouz,
Your plug-in look really good!
I want to use it for my architecture project, but when I install it the plug-in isn't full. Some of components missed. I downloaded file from food4rhino and from Space Syntax . I tried many ways for intalling, but still it doesn't work. So, I want to ask : Is it possible to get full version pulg-in?
Hi, thanks for your compliments; sorry for this late response, for quick communication please post your issues on www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax. There is a remedy suggested by one of the forum members for this particular issue.
Hi, Pirouz!
His work is amazing! Congrats!
Can you help me how to install? I did the auto install, but nothing appears on Grasshopper ... also can not activate it by Rhino ...
Hi Jorge, I am seeing this now, you need to have an up to date Rhino and Grasshopper, then after completing the installation you get a folder where you specify during installation, which contains a GHA file and example files. You need to drag and drop the GHA file onto your GH canvas. Then open the example files. If something went wrong, please post your issues on our forum page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
Tools available for download here: syntactic design | pirouznourian
Hi Pirouz, I downloaded the Space Syntax but it doesn't have the DiskGraphDrawing icon and one more, as shown at your video. I have less options in my Syntactic and that causes me a problem, I cannot run properly the programm. What should I do?
hi Nikoletta, you must have downloaded it from Food4Rhino. That version is unfortunately incomplete. Please take it from my own website. BTW, please post your tech questions on the forum; I do not notice questions so often in here.
Hi, I recently installed your plugin and its working good but I have problem on this. I don't have diskographdrawing component in the installed pack
hiii... please tell me how did you install it. it isn't working in my pc.
@@vkrmbundela after you download it from Google
Copy the file and paste that file on rhino plugins file .which will be in Drive'c' .
@@aswath_art935 thank you
u can see step by step for instalation : th-cam.com/video/SgTiGKkDD0U/w-d-xo.html
Can you explain a little bit about the voronoi component of the new release? Thanks for this amazing tool, by the way!
Hi Omar Chenge Said, thanks for your kind words; the Weighted Voronoi draws a Voroni diagram which can be weighted as to values associated to input points. It considers those values as radii of circles drawn from those points and the intersects them accordingly. For further technical questions; may I suggest that we continue on our forum page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax.
Hi Pirouz! Thanks a lot for this great plug in ! I'm getting an error while building the algorithm, it's written "object reference not set to an instance of an object" do you know what does it mean and how resolve it ? Thanks again !
Isabelle Camille Tertrais Hi, thanks for your compliments. That could be because an input is missing or in an unexpected shape for a component. Could you please post your issue with the files attached on our forum page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
For reporting issues, suggestions and comments consider joining the group: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
Hi Pirouz! Your job is amazing! I'm starting to work with grasshopper in university and i`m really interested in a possible application of space syntax in social housing. So your work is all i ever dreamed. hahaha I downloaded your new release(2.7) but couldn't understand why the graphs that look like rooms (step 3-b and 4 in your paper) do not actualize when i change the value in the Gene Pool. Is still in development? Thank you anyway! Greetings from Brazil!
hi, thanks for your compliments, that is something we did not finish (section 3-b). We are currently investigating alternative ideas. Sorry for this very late reaction, somehow I had not noticed the comments for a few years! For Q&A, please use our forum page www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
Hi @Pirouz Nourian i am new to space syntax looking to explore for small project . I am hesitantly asking you where can i download the latest version of grasshopper plugin. I have installed syntactic from your website but it does not work in rhino grasshopper . kindly reply
Hi Sharath, I answer technical questions on this page: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
On the same page you can find a link to my personal website for downloading the latest version of the plugin.
Thanks Pirouz Nourian i got the plugin , sure will ask for any queries on grasshopper forumn
The new version of this plugin is now available at www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
how can I download space syntax ? I can't find any link
iCol from integration outputs empty. has anyone else have this problem?
Im sorry is your program has maximum input? Because i try 21 point not worked out, but 5-10 its worked flawlessly
Hi, the current version might be slow in handling big graphs. But 21 nodes should not be a problem. You can post your file in the forum, we will then check it. I suspect you have a non-planar graph and you are trying to get a bubble diagram out of our tools. Your graphs must be planar, that is, it must be possible to draw them on a piece of paper without any two edges crossing one another.
what does entropy measure in this case?
I did not define it myself, I got the name and the idea from a paper by Hillier, Hanson and Peponis in 1987. my interpretation is as follows: the higher the entropy the more difficult it is to reach other spaces from that space
Hello, how do you change the colors of the legend? Plz and thank you, sir
Hi, you can recompose the attributes by the programme component and use a list of arbitrary colours.
www.researchgate.net/publication/368290116_Generative_Design_in_Architecture_From_Mathematical_Optimization_to_Grammatical_Customization
Can you share this file plz.
The files are available here: sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/syntactic-design?authuser=0
Hi all, we released a new version yesterday including tools not shown in this video. You can get the new package from sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/syntactic-design
👌👌👌👌
wow that looks awesome, cannot wait to give it a try! big up;)
Stay tuned for the new stuff: www.grasshopper3d.com/group/space-syntax
*good*
syntactic design | pirouznourian
Thank you so much.
www.slideshare.net/PirouzNourian/syntactic-space-syntax4generativedesign-80911800
www.slideshare.net/PirouzNourian/geo1004-lecture-1topologyamptopologicaldatamodelsfinal
www.cogitatiopress.com/urbanplanning/article/view/1299
A recent lecture on digital transformation of affordable mass housing: th-cam.com/video/51HcapJ5w34/w-d-xo.html
and its slides: www.researchgate.net/publication/350922877_Open_Source_Participatory_Design_and_Construction_of_Open_Buildings_Affordable_'Haute_Couture'_for_the_Masses_by_means_of_Design-Build_Games
Hi there, I invite you to use the papers describing this approach and the other tools related to this project on my personal website and on researchgate. sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/syntactic-design
The longest version of my stories in my PhD dissertation: sites.google.com/site/pirouznourian/configraphics
and the papers are on www.researchgate.net/profile/Pirouz_Nourian
You can help us continue this work by citing these papers in your papers.
See what we are working on these days: th-cam.com/video/I0GAzDlTc9E/w-d-xo.html
update: www.researchgate.net/publication/350978312_Collective_Intelligence_in_Generative_Design_A_Human-Centric_Approach_Towards_Scientific_Design
www.researchgate.net/publication/344440703_Generative_Design_Research_Methodology_Theoretical_underpinnings_of_practice_for_systematic_deduction_and_exploration_in_design
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