"I wanted to see how parasocial an audience could be," is the WILDEST EXCUSE. Dude, it's not "toxic parasocial behavior" to be concerned that someone is hurting deeply, even if you don't know them personally. Caring about someone else's wellbeing is not "toxic parasocial behavior". It's being a human.
Honestly, I believe she believes she believes that, I’ve been a fan for years, she is that type of person (btw I’m not defending her faking a miscarriage is wild)
I had a similar experience with Devlemons and Not even Emily almost in the same day. There's this new trend of clickbaity videos on youtube that have thumbnails like "im in a bad situation" or something like that with a picture of them looking sad, but when you click on them they turn out to be some kind of joke.
imagine going through a miscarriage and then seeing another woman going through the same thing so you try to comfort and relate to her to make her feel better, only for her to laugh at you for "falling for it"
this is so true, i’ve never been in that situation but wow for some reason THIS comment got me. that is so upsetting and heartbreaking for ANYONE to go through and then to feel you can confide in someone who’s dealing with the same just for them to be laughing in the background? so sad
Yea I can’t even imagine the hurt those women felt. I had a miscarriage and it was horrible. I would’ve definitely tried to help or comfort her. She seems to not understand how much you go through when having and after having a miscarriage. I’m pregnant again and although I’m WAY passed the safe zone I’m anxious all the time. And I would’ve felt like shit if I did stumble upon her videos. After my miscarriage, because you don’t usually tell ppl until 12 weeks and I miscarried at 7 I did go through TH-cam videos to help process everything and get some hope from others. I really can’t imagine those women who did the same as me stumbling upon that video to help themselves AND that person to just have them laugh in their face. How shitty
My mother goes through absolute depression in september due to the loss of her stillborn daughter (my sister) and it's hard to watch her try to cope. Even if it's been 20 years
Knowing Caroline I kinda assumed she was lying about the pregnancy when I first saw the announcement video But I will admit it is definitely weird to do something like that JUST for advertising Patreon, even if she’s desperate
"You are too parasocial about my fake miscarriage....! So come contribute to my financial security in exchange for more in depth personal information..... Glad I could weed out the super parasocial freaks who get too invested in my personal life...." Ummm....ok? 🤦🏻♀️
the whole thing is that she literally did the opposite of what she set out to do. She said she wanted a patreon to weed out the parasocial ppl when literally normal people don't pay for videos they watch casually and only the hardcore or the weirdos will be paying her instead. also the "its social experiment" segment gave me flashbacks to freshman year college philosophy classes where everyone is just throwing thesaurus words at the wall hoping they can make any statement that sounds deep LOL like girl u cant just say "uwu the internet isn't real" and act like u cracked the da vinci code
@@aspwned HKJDGJJ THATS WHAT I THOUGHT OF TOO like. the "social experiment" card was tacky when he did it *literally over a decade ago,* who in their right mind would try to use that excuse in the year of our lord 2024? who's falling for that???
i used to really like her content, but MAN her doing this has completely put me off anything she does in the future. insanely wild to make a whole video which seemed to convey some very real emotions about her pregnancy, some real struggles, real JOY and then insanely frustrating to find out it was not only faked for money but also to see her seem so proud of doing this. seems like she thinks she’s SO clever for doing this. something about how condescending the way she talked & the language she used in that video was just so. gross. for someone complaining about the struggles of being a content creator she seems really disconnected from what is actually ok and funny on the internet and what’s gonna make you look conceited disingenuous and insane, especially when the original video about her pregnancy seemed so serious and personal.
Seeing as how her actual parasocial fans are supporting her and laughing at those who felt any ounce of empathy. She probably won't be afraid to do something like that again with people encouraging faking a miscarriage
im gonna be real, i was part of the target audience. i was a fan of her content for years, and.. i still found myself disgusted by this. this wasnt okay, and the hypocrisy of saying that anyone who empathized with her situation was parasocial, and then excusing it by saying “the real ones get it 🤷🤷” (which is nurturing a parasocial relationship???) is crazy.. definitely done w her content tbh
On Lil Nas X, I feel like the people who were mad that he was "making fun of women" is going hand in hand with conservatives saying drag queens make fun of women in their craft.
@alexv3372 so happy that people are becoming less and less tolerance of this B.S from "influencer" and celebrities soon they won't have people to give them money and support!! Can't wait for the rebellion.
I have several aunts who had miscarrages while trying to have kids, a few of them had multiple, and it crushed them. It's so frustrating that someone was okay with faking something that is so damaging and hurts people's mental and physical health.
ppl saying “she does stuff like this all the time!” i used to watch her, no she never did! she did like songs and rambled to the camera. She even talked about her mental health struggles before. Never shit like this.
honesty carolines videos made me get an ick because my mom went through multiple miscarriages before she had me, so seeing her vids was just very icky.
right..miscarriages can be so traumatizing to mothers and everyone around them. i dont understand how caroline thought that was an okay thing to lie about for money
Same. I lost my brother at birth. I can’t imagine saying things like Caroline because of how deeply it would hurt my parents (and me). It’s obvious she has no experience with it IRL.
Me too!!! My mom had 3 miscarriages between having my brother & me and was about 40 when having me , i learned this way later in life and she said it so casually and i was just like mom im so sorry it takes so much strength to get through ONE miscarriage let alone 3
i listen to the podcast she’s on (hypothetical nonsense) and she talked about how she’d had a pregnancy scare, so when i saw the first video i thought it was a kind of imagination video of what she thinks she would’ve gone through if she was actually pregnant. that was my interpretation of the video when it came out because i had the context from the podcast , but the way she clickbated a miscarriage and addressed the video/ viewers and then plugged her patreon… no words
impact over intent also reminds me of that streamer (the girl whose dog shit in the door dash grocery bags) who recently ran somebody over on the street and she kept going "I didn't see u! i didn't mean to hit you stop freaking out" as if her saying she didn't mean to run them over was gonna change the situation
My mom had a miscarriage and it’s honestly so disrespectful for someone to pretend to have a miscarriage just to be like “just kidding!1!1!” is fucking sick.
I def feel like Caroline missed the mark with this one. Usually she makes good points in her videos/ streams. But after seeing multiple people express how what she did defeated the entire purpose of discouraging parasocialness. But yeah no not a dub for her 😭.
lol I love how I started a thought and didnt finish it 💀. But yeah no it defeated the entire purpose, and everyone calling her out is doing a good job because that’s the opposite of the paradoxical behavior she should be against (I guess in practice she actually likes it idk). I feel like fanbases built around funny people can tend to glaze the Content creator, so it’s good that a lot of her audience is calling her out.
i’ve been watching caroline’s videos for a couple years now, i’ve always thought she was pretty funny and sweet. this is definitely not the kind of thing she would usually do and when she first announced her “pregnancy” i genuinely believed her. really disappointed in her behavior tbh
@MsMvsc ??? Bro have you been on the Internet? Describing someone as sweet could mean their personality, their actions, their content, or their persona, and in this context it was not parasocial? It says "funny and sweet," do you really think that parasocial?
My mom had two miscarriages before I was conceived and even 16 years later, I can see the effects they had on both of my parents. It's heart breaking, I'd never wish it on anyone. Faking it for a "social experiment" is so beyond disgusting, I'm at a loss. How could someone ever think that's okay?
"i faked a miscarriage so pay me about it :)" god forbid she actually did scam people on patreon but all that money should go to planned parenthood or smth for her clownery, how dare she
the way her fans are reacting your think calling someone tacky and tasteless/in poor taste is accusing her of a crime. nah friends its just that anyone spectating on this from afar realizes the parasocial reasoning she gives us for this doesnt make sense and her behavior is, at best, deeply out of touch
Edit: I hadn’t seen the announcement videos. A lot, a LOT of women and uterus having folks, *_do not get the option for the baby to not be real._* There are people experiencing those real feelings who don’t get the human right to opt out of that pregnancy. And there are pregnant people and people trying earnestly to be pregnant and be parents, who lose their children without any choice, it’s not their content it’s their reality. No genre of content explains this. It’s not parasocial to extend good faith empathy to other people. We are supposed to do that. This is like, a way to farm parasociality imo bc only stans would follow someone through that. “The AO3 mpreg girlies actually mad at Lil Nas X for his pregnancy photoshoot, we know these are your darkest fantasies made real, I see y’all” is immediately the realest shit, if nothing else, that is a necessary statement and it did heal me
I have looked up to her since I was 12 years old (im 16 now) and I listened to all the episodes of her podcast "korncast" in quarantine and this genuinely breaks my heart
"the joke is that you connected to something that isn't real" okay well all you have to do to see that is look at literally any fandom on the internet so idk why this girl felt the need to do all that
The “social experiment” excuse reminds me of 5th grade when me and someone else caught my friend in a lie and then he proceeded to lie and say it was a “social experiment” for the science fair.😭
tbh, i think one little thing would make it so much better- the thumbnail. instead of her looking really sad, just have her poking her head under a couch or something with comic sans saying "where is it". making it incredibly clear that there was no miscarriage (and no baby to begin with) wouldve been a better call. the best call would be just not faking a pregnancy
REAL As a former fan of her, I know for a fact that most people didn't expect the baby to be real so having that as a thumbnailswould be inoffensive and funnier, while being more inline with her content (leading to less people seeing it) Of course this doesn't help with the fundamental issue of the video but it is better
Tbh after seeing the video she is one of the most out of touch normal ahh person I have seen in a while 😭 like how are you so far removed from reality while looking like your everyday person
So this whole situation kind of reminds me of a girl I met in juvie who actually was pregnant at the time. And when we were both locked up, we would talk to each other about like meeting up when we got out because she had weed I want smoh weed, you know, casual things, but a day I got out. I went to go meet up with her there like a day after and She showed up late where we were meeting up and I asked her. "Hey, did you miss the bus?" And she said she had a miscarriage this morning and I'm like. "Oh my God, what? What happened" and then she just kinda looked me in the eyes sniffed like, rubbed her nose and I got the message of what she did. I'm like oh... "I'm sorry?" and she just like "It's chill"
I mean, even if people didn’t believe the pregnancy was real in the first place, that still makes lying about a miscarriage wrong. Like that’s such a traumatic experience and she’s doing it for money. Even if she was doing it as a “social experiment” it still makes it so wrong. AND IT WASNT EVEN A JOKE! There was no punchline, she just pretended to have a miscarriage WHICH IS NOT FUNNY
been watching Caroline for years, but i purposefully avoided the pregnancy announcement because i just assumed it was a really long skit. so glad i dodged this bullet, this is really disappointing to see from her
I am a rainbow baby. My mom had 3 miscarriages before me and 1 with me. I was literally born with a birth defect (TGA & ASD [the one with the heart, I have the neurological disorder too but isnt related]). My mom really wanted children. Both of my parents did. I know it hurt my mom alot but I am really important to her. I am disgusted she could do such a thing, miscarriages are a serious thing that really hurt everyone involved.
As someone who has lost a pregnancy, I was really upset by this. And then all of the comments were defending her and saying this was just her style of humor but like… where’s the joke? Jokes are supposed to be funny.
as a caroline enjoyer her announcement video really hit me in my feels and i sympathized with her deeply because i've struggled with issues like that myself so it kinda feels like a slap in the face to be a fan and care only to get lied to like that i understand her parasocial points but you can make them in a more efficient and less hurtful way (also shes been on a podcast for a few months now and shes very entertaining there so clearly she knows how to be funny and this "comback" was the hardest miss ever)
i really don’t think she was making any new or interesting points about parasocial relationships either. that whole video she made seemed to me like word salad to make herself seem smart as if she hadn’t just made a really stupid and unfunny decision.
ive never heard of her before this video n that clip u showed rly did get me 😭 if i had seen it w/o context i wouldve thought it was real n felt rly bad for her
My aunt had a miscarriage last about a year and a half ago and it was tough on everyone, she was always the girl who never wanted kids but she finally changed her mind and started trying for a baby every one was so excited and she was so attached. When the news came in the Greif was absolutely crushing for everyone I didn’t get to see her for a while because she was in an extreme mental state that no kid/teenager should see. It was hard and I was so excited to have a baby cousin I told everyone I knew. After she recovered about 2 months later she fell pregnant with her rainbow baby and now my sweet baby cousin Luna is in this world and my aunt is over the moon. It’s really disrespectful to pretend to go through one of the hardest most sensitive experiences a mother can go through. It effects the whole family and its a new kind of Greif fir the mother my aunt is really strong for going through that and now raising her baby girl
I'd like to add that Caroline has been in the spotlight since she was like super super young. She also has bipolar disorder and has done several and I mean several bizarre things online during her manic episodes. She also has been living alone in an apartment paid for by her parents since age fourteen. She isn't stable enough for a platform. It also doesn't help that she has had a ton of orbitors who sexulized and sexual harrased her online since she was 15.
Yes I understood the "para social" direction of this to be more specifically to the "fans" that sexually harass her. I wasn't that big of a fan but I knew enough that there are a lot of creeps that follow her content. Doesn't excuse what she did but I imagine it being a kind of hail Mary.
honestly the very second she admitted this was all fake to plug her patreon, nothing she says afterwards matters. you can label this a social experiment all you want to sound intelligent and high level. meanwhile people who enjoyed your content genuinely empathized with you and it wasn’t something parasocial, it’s literally basic human kindness, OR, you never know that person may have gone through something similar. so to group those people in with everyone and call them parasocial, is actually beyond disgusting. especially with how the hardships women go through are literally constantly treated like a joke 24 fckin 7. side note my awful ex bf had a influencer crush on her for some reason LMAO (he was a serial cheater) so learning that she’s also a crappy person is like the sugar to my sweet tea idk. the cherry on my pie. just happy to see her lose support in my own personal way
I haven’t kept up with her content in YEARS but i miss when she would just post art on her account :( she had such a cool art style she’s crazy talented
I use to listen to a podcast she was in called best friends today and I remember an episode where she talked about how she might be pregnant or missed her period and that she would keep us updated and I thought that was so strange and odd she would say that so publicly cause she lives in Texas and the abortion laws are so awful I was worried about her and knowing that she was just panting a seed is fucking weird I don’t listen to the podcast anymore cause they insinuated she was pro Israel 🤢🤢🤢 red flags all around
the way pathological liars say it’s your fault that they lied and you took it at face value, maybe don’t lie? the only thing she’s done is chew up her own credibility for anything lmao
@@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW i dont remember specifics and it appears she’s deleted it now, but there was this video she made that mentioned a bunch of social issues and the conclusion to it was basically “why do you care so much?”
Last year I found out I am infertile. I am 18 now. It absolutely broke me and honestly I cannot even begin to imagine the pain miscarriage has to cause. I was destroyed for months over the loss of a potential child, I cannot imagine actually losing a real child.
Imagine, thinking it's funny or weird that people have empathy for those we don't know. That's one of the best things to come out of parasocial relationships. WTF.
saw the vids as they came out and ngl i thought at first it was just clickbait to get back viewers after the hiatus and that she would reveal either at the beginning or by the end it was all fake. However when she started speaking abt her trouble with infertility and the struggles of chosing whether or not to be a young mother I built alot of sympathy for her and even felt a bit upset at ppl in the comments suggesting she was joking because I thought, "wow how sad to take someone rlly opening up abt the issues them and so many people can face and accusing them of just doing some prank, how belittling". Sufficed to say when i got the second video i was not impressed.
My mom had 6 miscarriages and a stillborn. It’s a hard thing. I have PCOS so if and when I do want to get pregnant it will be a difficult process for me and miscarriages are more than common with PCOS… it’s a devastating reality to so many people.
my mom had four miscarriages and its was heartbreaking to hear what she had to go through alone. its a very devastating reality esp wth the guilt and shame with the recovery afterwards. pcos is the worst. i wish ppl were more aware and cautious of the sensitivity of infertility and miscarriages
I had one a few weeks ago. It was the most physically and mentally excruciating experience I ever had. I wouldn't have wanted it but im still mourning. If I had come across her videos thinking it was real and felt some parasocial trauma bond (probably not using those words right) just to be told it was a joke id feel so fkn stupid and alone. I hope she realizes she potentially did that to people
I know it’s been mentioned before but for someone who doesn’t like parasocial relationships she’s really bad at expressing it xD. Making a patreon for more real life content and liking comments that say “you’re not a real fan if…!”
As an empath it is difficult to read narcicist because they believe what they are saying. Empaths can read deception but narcs can cloak it in true belief. That’s why u have to be careful- as an elder I can assure u it gets easier
Thanks for talking about this I haven’t really seen any other videos talking about what happened and I thought that it was weird that all the comments on her video just seemed to either not care or just play along. It makes me sad to see her fake something as traumatic as a miscarriage, especially since I really liked a lot of her other videos Again thanks wurld for talking about it :>
I got a notification when she uploaded the pregnancy announcement since I had subbed long ago. But considering the account hadn't been active for several years, I was immediately suspicious and didn't watch the vid. I was therefore, not surprised when the second vid came, unfortunately. Its a shame, I really liked her old meme songs and whatever.
I saw that video and legitimately felt bad for her, I mean, how could you not? the video felt genuine, real, and relatable. once she uploaded the second one and I read all the comments talking about “oh you guys must be new here,” I felt very out of the loop even tho I’ve liked her videos for awhile. tho I’m not even sure she likes her own videos considering she removed a ton of them awhile ago (which is completely fair. she was the creator of them, after all. I’ve also deleted some projects from my past, I think most ppl have.) I like her humor, but maybe that’s another reason why I didn’t like her two most recent videos; they weren’t funny.
i've been watching this girl for a while, i know that she does some satire and when i watched that pregnancy vid at the very start i was like this is a little odd....but the feelings she put into it just broke my heart but then to find out she fakes one of the hardest things someone can go through is not funny. like im dissapointed in her and the people who are supporting her. this isn't a topic that should be joked about.
As someone who's parents were trying really fucking hard to have a kid, and who had repeated miscarriages, this whole situation is just disgusting. Also her implying that people getting emotional over her videos about very real struggles people have are parasocial is just insulting to not only her audience, but everyone who watches any content creator.
"peeing by yourself, handsome?" no, i'm shitting violently. thanks for the question.
…by yourself? ;)
scoot over....😘
SAME TF
she caught me on the toilet too 😢
@@carlmclaggne LMAO
"I wanted to see how parasocial an audience could be," is the WILDEST EXCUSE. Dude, it's not "toxic parasocial behavior" to be concerned that someone is hurting deeply, even if you don't know them personally. Caring about someone else's wellbeing is not "toxic parasocial behavior". It's being a human.
Yes It’s called EMPATHY 😅
Yeah when I heard her say that I was out.
That’s... it’s such a weird thing to do... for no reason.
She really tried to shame people for being empathetic, like sorry we’re not all sociopathic like you
Honestly, I believe she believes she believes that, I’ve been a fan for years, she is that type of person (btw I’m not defending her faking a miscarriage is wild)
I had a similar experience with Devlemons and Not even Emily almost in the same day. There's this new trend of clickbaity videos on youtube that have thumbnails like "im in a bad situation" or something like that with a picture of them looking sad, but when you click on them they turn out to be some kind of joke.
being autistic I hate the butt of the joke being taking someone at face value like 💀
Same it's so frustrating 😭😭 now i always overthink the most basic statements just in case
Same 🥲
Like I have trouble interpreting sarcasm already I don't need to deal with this conscious fuckery.
This is a very under discussed aspect of this topic yeah.
imagine going through a miscarriage and then seeing another woman going through the same thing so you try to comfort and relate to her to make her feel better, only for her to laugh at you for "falling for it"
this is so true, i’ve never been in that situation but wow for some reason THIS comment got me. that is so upsetting and heartbreaking for ANYONE to go through and then to feel you can confide in someone who’s dealing with the same just for them to be laughing in the background? so sad
Yea I can’t even imagine the hurt those women felt. I had a miscarriage and it was horrible. I would’ve definitely tried to help or comfort her.
She seems to not understand how much you go through when having and after having a miscarriage. I’m pregnant again and although I’m WAY passed the safe zone I’m anxious all the time. And I would’ve felt like shit if I did stumble upon her videos. After my miscarriage, because you don’t usually tell ppl until 12 weeks and I miscarried at 7 I did go through TH-cam videos to help process everything and get some hope from others. I really can’t imagine those women who did the same as me stumbling upon that video to help themselves AND that person to just have them laugh in their face. How shitty
I can only imagine the pain of pregnancy loss. using it as promo is so gross and insensitive.
My mother goes through absolute depression in september due to the loss of her stillborn daughter (my sister) and it's hard to watch her try to cope. Even if it's been 20 years
I don’t get her point like “you connected with something that wasn’t real”, people do that all the time with shows and books etc.
I know, like… yeah…. And? What is honestly so bad with connecting with something that isn’t real?
Knowing Caroline I kinda assumed she was lying about the pregnancy when I first saw the announcement video
But I will admit it is definitely weird to do something like that JUST for advertising Patreon, even if she’s desperate
I thought “shrugs good for her” and moved on with my life??? She made it content. Nobody asked her specifically to do something so strange
Kinda fucked up i like her old humor and all but this is going too far
"The joke wasn't that you're gullible, it's that you're gullible" is basically what miscarriage misleader said.
"bro is empathymaxxing"
"You are too parasocial about my fake miscarriage....!
So come contribute to my financial security in exchange for more in depth personal information.....
Glad I could weed out the super parasocial freaks who get too invested in my personal life...."
Ummm....ok? 🤦🏻♀️
and the dumbest thing is that showing…basic…concern… for a woman going through a miscarriage isn’t parasocial behavior, it’s literally just kindness??
@@wilted-daisy68she fr thinks having empathy is the same as a parasocial relationship smh
in reality she’s keeping the parasocial people and making the actually level headed leave
the whole thing is that she literally did the opposite of what she set out to do. She said she wanted a patreon to weed out the parasocial ppl when literally normal people don't pay for videos they watch casually and only the hardcore or the weirdos will be paying her instead. also the "its social experiment" segment gave me flashbacks to freshman year college philosophy classes where everyone is just throwing thesaurus words at the wall hoping they can make any statement that sounds deep LOL like girl u cant just say "uwu the internet isn't real" and act like u cracked the da vinci code
cole sprouse tumblr moment
@@aspwnedur so right tho.
@@aspwned HKJDGJJ THATS WHAT I THOUGHT OF TOO
like. the "social experiment" card was tacky when he did it *literally over a decade ago,* who in their right mind would try to use that excuse in the year of our lord 2024? who's falling for that???
NOT THE “ it’s prom! “ GIRL, NOOO, I LOVED THAT VIDEO.
😭😭😭
I loved her old videos idk what happened smh 💀
i loved her std song lol
so true
that's DEVASTATING
Ikr😔😔 I literally loved her vids bro
i used to really like her content, but MAN her doing this has completely put me off anything she does in the future. insanely wild to make a whole video which seemed to convey some very real emotions about her pregnancy, some real struggles, real JOY and then insanely frustrating to find out it was not only faked for money but also to see her seem so proud of doing this. seems like she thinks she’s SO clever for doing this. something about how condescending the way she talked & the language she used in that video was just so. gross. for someone complaining about the struggles of being a content creator she seems really disconnected from what is actually ok and funny on the internet and what’s gonna make you look conceited disingenuous and insane, especially when the original video about her pregnancy seemed so serious and personal.
This one
Seeing as how her actual parasocial fans are supporting her and laughing at those who felt any ounce of empathy. She probably won't be afraid to do something like that again with people encouraging faking a miscarriage
im gonna be real, i was part of the target audience. i was a fan of her content for years, and.. i still found myself disgusted by this. this wasnt okay, and the hypocrisy of saying that anyone who empathized with her situation was parasocial, and then excusing it by saying “the real ones get it 🤷🤷” (which is nurturing a parasocial relationship???) is crazy.. definitely done w her content tbh
On Lil Nas X, I feel like the people who were mad that he was "making fun of women" is going hand in hand with conservatives saying drag queens make fun of women in their craft.
yeah or terfs who got angry at the term "people who menstruate"
Damn, we’re so cooked just for having basic human empathy 💀
APPARENTLY empathy isn’t a thing anymore and if you show it it considered “parasocial”
WTF my dude
@alexv3372 so happy that people are becoming less and less tolerance of this B.S from "influencer" and celebrities soon they won't have people to give them money and support!! Can't wait for the rebellion.
impact over intent >>>>>>
I have several aunts who had miscarrages while trying to have kids, a few of them had multiple, and it crushed them. It's so frustrating that someone was okay with faking something that is so damaging and hurts people's mental and physical health.
ppl saying “she does stuff like this all the time!” i used to watch her, no she never did! she did like songs and rambled to the camera. She even talked about her mental health struggles before. Never shit like this.
She was on a show called BFT and she did a lot of similar bits all the time
honesty carolines videos made me get an ick because my mom went through multiple miscarriages before she had me, so seeing her vids was just very icky.
right..miscarriages can be so traumatizing to mothers and everyone around them. i dont understand how caroline thought that was an okay thing to lie about for money
Same. I lost my brother at birth. I can’t imagine saying things like Caroline because of how deeply it would hurt my parents (and me). It’s obvious she has no experience with it IRL.
Me too!!! My mom had 3 miscarriages between having my brother & me and was about 40 when having me , i learned this way later in life and she said it so casually and i was just like mom im so sorry it takes so much strength to get through ONE miscarriage let alone 3
maybe we should not fake miscarriages? just a thought!
i listen to the podcast she’s on (hypothetical nonsense) and she talked about how she’d had a pregnancy scare, so when i saw the first video i thought it was a kind of imagination video of what she thinks she would’ve gone through if she was actually pregnant. that was my interpretation of the video when it came out because i had the context from the podcast , but the way she clickbated a miscarriage and addressed the video/ viewers and then plugged her patreon… no words
we need to lock up the word parasocial cuz some people dont know what that word means
PLEASE
How do we do that?
impact over intent also reminds me of that streamer (the girl whose dog shit in the door dash grocery bags) who recently ran somebody over on the street and she kept going "I didn't see u! i didn't mean to hit you stop freaking out" as if her saying she didn't mean to run them over was gonna change the situation
I’m sorry she WHAT?
Did he file a lawsuit?
Also how did whole um … dogshit thing happen exactly?
@@alexv3372Apparently her dog was in the backseat of the car where the food bags were and it took a dump in them
My mom had a miscarriage and it’s honestly so disrespectful for someone to pretend to have a miscarriage just to be like “just kidding!1!1!” is fucking sick.
I def feel like Caroline missed the mark with this one. Usually she makes good points in her videos/ streams. But after seeing multiple people express how what she did defeated the entire purpose of discouraging parasocialness. But yeah no not a dub for her 😭.
lol I love how I started a thought and didnt finish it 💀. But yeah no it defeated the entire purpose, and everyone calling her out is doing a good job because that’s the opposite of the paradoxical behavior she should be against (I guess in practice she actually likes it idk). I feel like fanbases built around funny people can tend to glaze the
Content creator, so it’s good that a lot of her audience is calling her out.
BON PLUSH IN THE BACKGROUND?!1!?1?
WALTEN FILES FAN?
HOLY SHIT!!!! I LOVE TWF
I KNOWW I JUST GOT MINE 💗💗 LOVE THAT SHE HAS ONE TOO FR
I SAW IT TOO, I HAVE ONE
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT
i’ve been watching caroline’s videos for a couple years now, i’ve always thought she was pretty funny and sweet. this is definitely not the kind of thing she would usually do and when she first announced her “pregnancy” i genuinely believed her. really disappointed in her behavior tbh
You do unironically seem too parasocial with her. You literally don't know her and described her as sweet 😂
@@MsMvsc lol i just thought she seemed like a nice person. idc about her
@MsMvsc ??? Bro have you been on the Internet? Describing someone as sweet could mean their personality, their actions, their content, or their persona, and in this context it was not parasocial? It says "funny and sweet," do you really think that parasocial?
My mom had two miscarriages before I was conceived and even 16 years later, I can see the effects they had on both of my parents. It's heart breaking, I'd never wish it on anyone. Faking it for a "social experiment" is so beyond disgusting, I'm at a loss. How could someone ever think that's okay?
well, you know they say ... karma's a bitch
i should've known better
If I had a wish, I would have never effed around
When I saw the pics of you with her I felt the knife twist
karmas a bitch
And shes with you right now
"i faked a miscarriage so pay me about it :)"
god forbid she actually did scam people on patreon but all that money should go to planned parenthood or smth for her clownery, how dare she
She got that bag tho
the way her fans are reacting your think calling someone tacky and tasteless/in poor taste is accusing her of a crime. nah friends its just that anyone spectating on this from afar realizes the parasocial reasoning she gives us for this doesnt make sense and her behavior is, at best, deeply out of touch
Edit: I hadn’t seen the announcement videos. A lot, a LOT of women and uterus having folks, *_do not get the option for the baby to not be real._* There are people experiencing those real feelings who don’t get the human right to opt out of that pregnancy. And there are pregnant people and people trying earnestly to be pregnant and be parents, who lose their children without any choice, it’s not their content it’s their reality. No genre of content explains this. It’s not parasocial to extend good faith empathy to other people. We are supposed to do that. This is like, a way to farm parasociality imo bc only stans would follow someone through that.
“The AO3 mpreg girlies actually mad at Lil Nas X for his pregnancy photoshoot, we know these are your darkest fantasies made real, I see y’all” is immediately the realest shit, if nothing else, that is a necessary statement and it did heal me
Right it’s the realest comment lmao I screamed… I support my mpreg lovers but I KNOW half of them are also getting mad abt lil nas
she's so shallow. i know some of my moms friends almost commit s* bcs of lost pregnancies.
Glad someone talked about this because I was really confused all about this
the moment i heard her name my jaw dropped instantly in realization that this was the same girl who made "It's Prom!"
also i got so happy seeing the bon plush
I have looked up to her since I was 12 years old (im 16 now) and I listened to all the episodes of her podcast "korncast" in quarantine and this genuinely breaks my heart
"the joke is that you connected to something that isn't real" okay well all you have to do to see that is look at literally any fandom on the internet so idk why this girl felt the need to do all that
The “social experiment” excuse reminds me of 5th grade when me and someone else caught my friend in a lie and then he proceeded to lie and say it was a “social experiment” for the science fair.😭
THE HAMLET SLANDER 😭😭😭
i’m losing the yap battle if he was my opponent
@@WURLDSTARme when i pull up to the yapping competition and hamlets my opponent 😟😟🏃🏻🏃🏻🏃🏻💨💨
besides the point, BUT I MISREAD THAT AS "HADAM SANDLER" 😭😭
@@Punmaestro LMFAAAOOOO
I've watched her content since years ago. She's talented, smart, and very witty. And, apparently, when she encounters empathy, she points and laughs.
Actual, (also former fan of hers)
tbh, i think one little thing would make it so much better- the thumbnail. instead of her looking really sad, just have her poking her head under a couch or something with comic sans saying "where is it". making it incredibly clear that there was no miscarriage (and no baby to begin with) wouldve been a better call. the best call would be just not faking a pregnancy
REAL
As a former fan of her, I know for a fact that most people didn't expect the baby to be real so having that as a thumbnailswould be inoffensive and funnier, while being more inline with her content (leading to less people seeing it)
Of course this doesn't help with the fundamental issue of the video but it is better
Tbh after seeing the video she is one of the most out of touch normal ahh person I have seen in a while 😭 like how are you so far removed from reality while looking like your everyday person
i saw her first video… this is the first im hearing of the patreon thing😭 what the hell
Pissing bye yourself handsome- WURLD
So this whole situation kind of reminds me of a girl I met in juvie who actually was pregnant at the time. And when we were both locked up, we would talk to each other about like meeting up when we got out because she had weed I want smoh weed, you know, casual things, but a day I got out. I went to go meet up with her there like a day after and She showed up late where we were meeting up and I asked her. "Hey, did you miss the bus?" And she said she had a miscarriage this morning and I'm like. "Oh my God, what? What happened" and then she just kinda looked me in the eyes sniffed like, rubbed her nose and I got the message of what she did. I'm like oh... "I'm sorry?" and she just like "It's chill"
I hope your friend's doing okay
the irony of scolding people for having a "parasocial" relationship and then making people pay to see her personal life is WILD
Real
I mean, even if people didn’t believe the pregnancy was real in the first place, that still makes lying about a miscarriage wrong. Like that’s such a traumatic experience and she’s doing it for money. Even if she was doing it as a “social experiment” it still makes it so wrong. AND IT WASNT EVEN A JOKE! There was no punchline, she just pretended to have a miscarriage WHICH IS NOT FUNNY
i'm soooo glad someone brought this up😭 i had watched both videos as they were coming out and the whole situation really sent me through a loop
been watching Caroline for years, but i purposefully avoided the pregnancy announcement because i just assumed it was a really long skit. so glad i dodged this bullet, this is really disappointing to see from her
this is my first time on your channel but it feels like listening to a friend explain drama, love the vibe :D
welcome! :D
The mpreg comment im dying
I am a rainbow baby. My mom had 3 miscarriages before me and 1 with me. I was literally born with a birth defect (TGA & ASD [the one with the heart, I have the neurological disorder too but isnt related]). My mom really wanted children. Both of my parents did. I know it hurt my mom alot but I am really important to her. I am disgusted she could do such a thing, miscarriages are a serious thing that really hurt everyone involved.
As someone who has lost a pregnancy, I was really upset by this. And then all of the comments were defending her and saying this was just her style of humor but like… where’s the joke? Jokes are supposed to be funny.
The joke is mostly that you were dumb enough to believe it. Not a very good joke but that’s what it is.
as a caroline enjoyer her announcement video really hit me in my feels and i sympathized with her deeply because i've struggled with issues like that myself
so it kinda feels like a slap in the face to be a fan and care only to get lied to like that
i understand her parasocial points
but you can make them in a more efficient and less hurtful way
(also shes been on a podcast for a few months now and shes very entertaining there so clearly she knows how to be funny and this "comback" was the hardest miss ever)
i really don’t think she was making any new or interesting points about parasocial relationships either. that whole video she made seemed to me like word salad to make herself seem smart as if she hadn’t just made a really stupid and unfunny decision.
@catqueen235fair!! she really couldve just stopped the "bit" instead of going to that extreme
like "hey guys, that was a lie" then move on
I don’t understand how she has any fans, I’ve seen a couple of clips of her “jokes” and they’re very unfunny to me 😅
ive never heard of her before this video n that clip u showed rly did get me 😭 if i had seen it w/o context i wouldve thought it was real n felt rly bad for her
im part of her target audience and omg that's just a weird thing to lie or joke about. weirdly insensitive i thought bro was fr
My aunt had a miscarriage last about a year and a half ago and it was tough on everyone, she was always the girl who never wanted kids but she finally changed her mind and started trying for a baby every one was so excited and she was so attached. When the news came in the Greif was absolutely crushing for everyone I didn’t get to see her for a while because she was in an extreme mental state that no kid/teenager should see. It was hard and I was so excited to have a baby cousin I told everyone I knew. After she recovered about 2 months later she fell pregnant with her rainbow baby and now my sweet baby cousin Luna is in this world and my aunt is over the moon. It’s really disrespectful to pretend to go through one of the hardest most sensitive experiences a mother can go through. It effects the whole family and its a new kind of Greif fir the mother my aunt is really strong for going through that and now raising her baby girl
I'd like to add that Caroline has been in the spotlight since she was like super super young. She also has bipolar disorder and has done several and I mean several bizarre things online during her manic episodes. She also has been living alone in an apartment paid for by her parents since age fourteen. She isn't stable enough for a platform. It also doesn't help that she has had a ton of orbitors who sexulized and sexual harrased her online since she was 15.
Oh jeez that is horrific!
Yes I understood the "para social" direction of this to be more specifically to the "fans" that sexually harass her. I wasn't that big of a fan but I knew enough that there are a lot of creeps that follow her content. Doesn't excuse what she did but I imagine it being a kind of hail Mary.
omg love the walten files plushie
People really have to learn what an “experiment” actually is because this does not qualify as an “experiment” 😭
honestly the very second she admitted this was all fake to plug her patreon, nothing she says afterwards matters. you can label this a social experiment all you want to sound intelligent and high level. meanwhile people who enjoyed your content genuinely empathized with you and it wasn’t something parasocial, it’s literally basic human kindness, OR, you never know that person may have gone through something similar. so to group those people in with everyone and call them parasocial, is actually beyond disgusting. especially with how the hardships women go through are literally constantly treated like a joke 24 fckin 7.
side note my awful ex bf had a influencer crush on her for some reason LMAO (he was a serial cheater) so learning that she’s also a crappy person is like the sugar to my sweet tea idk. the cherry on my pie. just happy to see her lose support in my own personal way
thanks for mentioning operation olive branch, ur my fav now
You missed a "What is this a crossover" episode pun
i noticed that!!! idk why i didn’t say it !!!!!!
@@WURLDSTAR betrayal give me your crown and your license to make bojack references and not cry immediately
I haven’t kept up with her content in YEARS but i miss when she would just post art on her account :( she had such a cool art style she’s crazy talented
it wasnt a marketing tactic. the baby is somewhere and we've just yet to find them
It'd be fair enough if she just admitted "yeah I faked it LMAO" but then she tried to act if she had a point or something 😭
She's always been edgy so I'm not surprised tbh
I use to listen to a podcast she was in called best friends today and I remember an episode where she talked about how she might be pregnant or missed her period and that she would keep us updated and I thought that was so strange and odd she would say that so publicly cause she lives in Texas and the abortion laws are so awful I was worried about her and knowing that she was just panting a seed is fucking weird I don’t listen to the podcast anymore cause they insinuated she was pro Israel 🤢🤢🤢 red flags all around
the way pathological liars say it’s your fault that they lied and you took it at face value, maybe don’t lie? the only thing she’s done is chew up her own credibility for anything lmao
isn’t she the girl who made that obnoxiously centrist video a couple years ago
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@@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW i dont remember specifics and it appears she’s deleted it now, but there was this video she made that mentioned a bunch of social issues and the conclusion to it was basically “why do you care so much?”
The justification was just very much we live in a society
Last year I found out I am infertile. I am 18 now. It absolutely broke me and honestly I cannot even begin to imagine the pain miscarriage has to cause. I was destroyed for months over the loss of a potential child, I cannot imagine actually losing a real child.
You probably aren’t actually infertile, they’re wrong about that all the time. Just wait and see if it happens and don’t freak out about it
@@frog_humidifier585 Thank you. I am actually going in for a second opinion, because I also do not think (hope) that it is not true. :)
Imagine, thinking it's funny or weird that people have empathy for those we don't know. That's one of the best things to come out of parasocial relationships. WTF.
I LOVED BEST FRIENDS TODAY WHY THE FUCK DID THIS HAVE TO HAPPEN 😭😭 im so disgusted
saw the vids as they came out and ngl i thought at first it was just clickbait to get back viewers after the hiatus and that she would reveal either at the beginning or by the end it was all fake. However when she started speaking abt her trouble with infertility and the struggles of chosing whether or not to be a young mother I built alot of sympathy for her and even felt a bit upset at ppl in the comments suggesting she was joking because I thought, "wow how sad to take someone rlly opening up abt the issues them and so many people can face and accusing them of just doing some prank, how belittling". Sufficed to say when i got the second video i was not impressed.
My mom had 6 miscarriages and a stillborn. It’s a hard thing. I have PCOS so if and when I do want to get pregnant it will be a difficult process for me and miscarriages are more than common with PCOS… it’s a devastating reality to so many people.
my mom had four miscarriages and its was heartbreaking to hear what she had to go through alone. its a very devastating reality esp wth the guilt and shame with the recovery afterwards. pcos is the worst. i wish ppl were more aware and cautious of the sensitivity of infertility and miscarriages
this is very on brand for her
Her reasoning really gave me a one two punch.
If she did all that on April 1st, then maybe? But if I want to "connect" to a fictional story, I always have that tried and true film and literature.
NOOOO I LOVED CAROLINE’S VIDEOS WHY DID SHE DO THISSSSSS
Oh the intro
my bad
Yes thank god people are talking about this… it was so fucked
I had one a few weeks ago. It was the most physically and mentally excruciating experience I ever had. I wouldn't have wanted it but im still mourning. If I had come across her videos thinking it was real and felt some parasocial trauma bond (probably not using those words right) just to be told it was a joke id feel so fkn stupid and alone. I hope she realizes she potentially did that to people
i find it funny that the bon plush, the scary haunted robot bunny, is sitting on a bigger, cute looking bunny.
braxton wurld jr kinda eats! 😭
don’t set my future baby up like that LMAO
I know it’s been mentioned before but for someone who doesn’t like parasocial relationships she’s really bad at expressing it xD. Making a patreon for more real life content and liking comments that say “you’re not a real fan if…!”
As an empath it is difficult to read narcicist because they believe what they are saying. Empaths can read deception but narcs can cloak it in true belief. That’s why u have to be careful- as an elder I can assure u it gets easier
Thanks for talking about this I haven’t really seen any other videos talking about what happened and I thought that it was weird that all the comments on her video just seemed to either not care or just play along. It makes me sad to see her fake something as traumatic as a miscarriage, especially since I really liked a lot of her other videos
Again thanks wurld for talking about it :>
I got a notification when she uploaded the pregnancy announcement since I had subbed long ago. But considering the account hadn't been active for several years, I was immediately suspicious and didn't watch the vid. I was therefore, not surprised when the second vid came, unfortunately. Its a shame, I really liked her old meme songs and whatever.
I love the Bon plushie!
I saw that video and legitimately felt bad for her, I mean, how could you not? the video felt genuine, real, and relatable.
once she uploaded the second one and I read all the comments talking about “oh you guys must be new here,” I felt very out of the loop even tho I’ve liked her videos for awhile. tho I’m not even sure she likes her own videos considering she removed a ton of them awhile ago (which is completely fair. she was the creator of them, after all. I’ve also deleted some projects from my past, I think most ppl have.)
I like her humor, but maybe that’s another reason why I didn’t like her two most recent videos; they weren’t funny.
off-topic, but your voice is so nice!! love your content ♡
just found your channel, i absolutely love the vibe/bojack clips! and the operation olive branch shout out at the end!!!
all my old favourites are getting burned now huh
return the slab made me doubletake so fast
i've been watching this girl for a while, i know that she does some satire and when i watched that pregnancy vid at the very start i was like this is a little odd....but the feelings she put into it just broke my heart but then to find out she fakes one of the hardest things someone can go through is not funny. like im dissapointed in her and the people who are supporting her. this isn't a topic that should be joked about.
As someone who's parents were trying really fucking hard to have a kid, and who had repeated miscarriages, this whole situation is just disgusting. Also her implying that people getting emotional over her videos about very real struggles people have are parasocial is just insulting to not only her audience, but everyone who watches any content creator.
THE AO3 COMMENT LMAOO???
U mentioned dollar sign slime and I had to pause this, go listen to that real quick, and come back.
I am peeing by myself and I’d like to keep it that way🤗