I have heard from a retired prison officer who worked at one of the prisons were Tony was that he was a very polite, gentleman who enjoyed cooking classes whilst he was serving his time. I always thought he looked extremely handsome, really smart dresser.
In addition to my last comment, I'm actually enjoying this. Tony obviously had a very dim view on Mad Frankie and I don't think he was alone among the other guys at the head table.
@flammable Hector yep! They all shit on each other when it got too hot, they was all a bunch of arse lickers of two bullies who couldn't actually commit a crime themselves, they just muscled in on everyone elses work. Freddy foreman and Joe Pyle are the real criminal masterminds and Roy shore was just a fighter who used brute force to steal money, the kray twins would have got murdered not long after if they would not have gone to prison.
He’s absolutely correct in what he says, when Tony was born the midwife turned to his mammy and said it’s a MAN because that’s what he was Requiescat in Pace Tony 🙏🌹🙏. He was a proper London gangster unlike the cardboard ones who thinks they are sadly missed Tony Joey Pyle another gentleman who always came across as a humble man who also did a lot for charities that people fail to mention helped many many charities and people till he passes away Requiescat in Pace Joey 🙏🌹🙏
Never a "Kray boss". Not even on the firm. Just a man in the wrong place at the time that was stupid enough to dispose of a body, took his brother Michael down with him.
Who the hell is Michael? The brother who got put away with him was Chris and Chris if anything was the real deal he was an handful and Tony lived off his rep
@David stopbrexit shut up idiot boy,,I was talking about the brothers Chris and Tony to someone else so don't go butting in where your not wanted ok ,yeah sure micky was useful but then again so is half of London
Don't think I've ever heard him say he was a boss the newspapers and publishers came up with all this Kray gang boss and the Krays lieutenant in order to publicise the book. This is England the Krays weren't the cosa Nostra with their bosses, underbosses, capo regimes etc
So what these guys have never denied being criminals and criminals aren't known for the honesty of course they're going to embellish their stories and exaggerate their own importance. The same could be said of all autobiographical stories whether they're by sportsmen pop stars or politicians they're telling the stories from their perspective
No they didn't. They liked to pretend they did there's never been order in the underworld but people in general were a lot harder in those days. If someone had burgled my mums house I would have got my mates together and ironed the burglar out. Most working class people would have done the same. That doesn't mean I was a gangster it's just that people in those days were more prepared to go out and have a row
@@patkearney9320 Still I think the sentence he got was extreme for what he did. The Krays according to there solicitor Ralph Haeems was offered a deal where everyone could have walked if they threw their hands up also they would have probably been better off anyway they would surely have got a smaller sentence. Its like they was on death wish and they dragged others down with them
There's always three sides to a good story as we all know. First of all, RIP, T. No one's going to write bad about themselves. Plenty of embellishment, having the liberty to write what you like.Tony and and his brother had different part's in the murder. Tony the bigger part because of his involment from start to finish. His brother after the fact. That the truth.
Tony was a role model prisoner always yes sir no sir three bags bla bla. In Brixton back in the 80 no one listened to his BS. And yes he told nipper what happened ( but wouldn't sign a statement) he dry snitched. No one considered him a gangster. And seeing him now! B.S LIES. He was a piss boy.
@@The_welder_ thanks mate. I’ll take it your a fan of crime. Interesting life view, I’m a fans of no crime in general so I would suggest it’s you and other “lovers of crime” who need help. Is it all crime you love such as burglary or just the really cool stuff
Wot a mess we are all in the mess they were involved in eod there mess learn from it people because the mess hasn't changed just the faces God help us all
Clive Wilson Tony is a bit of a hypocrite really because he said he had a lot of respect for awning but it put money down about selling the books and making money and he needs work so we'll be all for all the killings with money writing a book I'm quite so going to get it I'll make your own mind up about Tony I'll be turning in some aspects he's very genuine but he's also being a hypocrite crazy did the books make lucky money inside not outside and we gotta remember that craze a bunch of bullies what do you need to sell them to make money and I know two people bellend by morning and they had nothing to do with the gangster f****** thing so as a bit b******* to but I guess it's making your mind up and know what the truth is
+badboybaldy1 hi mate, thanks for the reply but is there any chance you can reread what you wrote and post again? as I can't made head nor tale of it, Lol.. thanks bud
Lol sorry mate on me tablets and haven't slept for a few days . I repost it later today k . I just read it fuck no wonder u can't understand it Clive lol
@@johnc4701 he wasn't even really a close inner member of the gang, more of a recent addition to the hangers on at the time of his arrest. If he wasn't there the night of mcvities murder and used by the twins to get rid of the body, no one would ever have heard of him. He was hardly a master criminal or even a known hard man.
don't think u understand the no comment no grassing law among crims mate. it's kinda how the whole thing works. live by the sword. no going back kinda thing
Tony and Chris only associated with the twins in the last 8 months of their freedom. Chris and Tony were eager to run errands for the twins and it cost them 15 years.
I wasn't around when these guys were doing their stuff so i won't know the truth, but I have a query and it's that in a few videos on TH-cam I've heard geezers from back then saying that Tony wasn't really liked and that he was the main reason Jack the hat Mcvitie got killed cause apparently he kept going backwards and forwards to Reggie and Ronnie telling them both things that Jack had done or said, like rubbing salt into the wound and Tony if this is the truth, he goes around trying to look like a good fella a nice guy, knowing that Ronnie was a blinking psycho and could do something very bad, Tony should of kept his mouth shut, as I've also heard on videos that Jack was a nice guy, liked by loads and that he had never done anything against the Krays for Reggie to take it that far, Jack in a drunken stupor might of made a silly comment, but nothing to get killed about. So question is was or is Tony a nice person or not?
Wrong....................................................................... Kev The Guy I think you are referring to was a guy called "Ronnie Bender" Been well documented by both Roy Adams (Hard Nights) And Paul Grimes ( Powder Wars) Read both books ;)
The kray twins they were made examples of they shouldn't ever ever got 30 years the ones that they killed with no good people anyway and deserved it at the end of the day kray twins we're a good firm wish I was around that time
The way Reggie carried himself inside they couldn’t let him out he played the Godfather trying to impress young guys, I was a young man and he creeped me out in Durham, the way he’d smile at you was truly creepy.
About pointing fingers lol read Tony's statements in them he clearly grasses the twins up big time lol he didn't think they'd be assessable but he was wrong and everybody know the score
I loved Tony's book, he's a down to earth man, wise and good hearted. Sad he's passed on.
what is a called pal?
George Barclay inside the firm
agree im freinds with his niece , but with respect how was he the krays boss?
@@davidowenwinter3111 hes no boss ,he set jack the hat up n wiped ronnies arse whenever he needed a shit
They all had a bad word about him, kiss ass, Bully, a mug
Old school was the best school ♥️
I have heard from a retired prison officer who worked at one of the prisons were Tony was that he was a very polite, gentleman who enjoyed cooking classes whilst he was serving his time. I always thought he looked extremely handsome, really smart dresser.
A good solid man .never hear him say anything bad about any one
Fred’s about the only one left of this era.
always liked tony and Chris ...told it like it was and is ...and didn't take shit . 16 years i did 12 good man
Cornwall was alright,but I preferred Devon!
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Liam....brilliant vid mate...keep it up....
cheers mate - hope you're well
Caterham?
After all those years he does not feel guilty for Jack,
How do you know what he feels lots of people never express their true feelings
In addition to my last comment, I'm actually enjoying this. Tony obviously had a very dim view on Mad Frankie and I don't think he was alone among the other guys at the head table.
I see courtney never got invited!!
Lol i was waiting on his baldy wee head popping up infront of the camera 😂😂😂😂
U gonna find him under the table cleaning bells
JEDI MASTER 🤣🤣🤣
Fkn tosser
if he'd turned up they'd have probably refused entry, just like at Bruce Reynolds funeral
Such a gentleman. RIP Tony
3:11 Lambrianou "ive never pointed the finger at anyone" as hes literally pointing his finger at someone..
Your comment made me laugh haha
@@snails1108 ..glad i could help..👍
@flammable Hector yep! They all shit on each other when it got too hot, they was all a bunch of arse lickers of two bullies who couldn't actually commit a crime themselves, they just muscled in on everyone elses work. Freddy foreman and Joe Pyle are the real criminal masterminds and Roy shore was just a fighter who used brute force to steal money, the kray twins would have got murdered not long after if they would not have gone to prison.
gutz323 How the fuck is Joey Pyle a real criminal mastermind?? Who is Roy Shore?? ..... you mean Roy Shaw
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eric mason said of tony he always enjoyed stirring up trouble
well he set his own mate up to get murderd
Is this someone's idea of a good night out?
He’s absolutely correct in what he says, when Tony was born the midwife turned to his mammy and said it’s a MAN because that’s what he was Requiescat in Pace Tony 🙏🌹🙏. He was a proper London gangster unlike the cardboard ones who thinks they are sadly missed Tony Joey Pyle another gentleman who always came across as a humble man who also did a lot for charities that people fail to mention helped many many charities and people till he passes away Requiescat in Pace Joey 🙏🌹🙏
Never a "Kray boss". Not even on the firm. Just a man in the wrong place at the time that was stupid enough to dispose of a body, took his brother Michael down with him.
Chris
@@johnniethepom2905 yep definately Chris
Who the hell is Michael? The brother who got put away with him was Chris and Chris if anything was the real deal he was an handful and Tony lived off his rep
@David stopbrexit shut up idiot boy,,I was talking about the brothers Chris and Tony to someone else so don't go butting in where your not wanted ok ,yeah sure micky was useful but then again so is half of London
Don't think I've ever heard him say he was a boss the newspapers and publishers came up with all this Kray gang boss and the Krays lieutenant in order to publicise the book. This is England the Krays weren't the cosa Nostra with their bosses, underbosses, capo regimes etc
Is that Roy hodgson
Tony wasn't a gangster, back in the day his brother Chris was an handful and Tony lived off his brothers rep
That's the way the world works
Ronnie Kray was apparently so pissed off at Tony Lambrianou for that book he wrote in 1991. Was never what he claimed to be apparently.
So what these guys have never denied being criminals and criminals aren't known for the honesty of course they're going to embellish their stories and exaggerate their own importance. The same could be said of all autobiographical stories whether they're by sportsmen pop stars or politicians they're telling the stories from their perspective
The beauty about these gangs is they kept order in the criminal underworld. Gangs today are are of control
How do you know ?
No they didn't. They liked to pretend they did there's never been order in the underworld but people in general were a lot harder in those days. If someone had burgled my mums house I would have got my mates together and ironed the burglar out. Most working class people would have done the same. That doesn't mean I was a gangster it's just that people in those days were more prepared to go out and have a row
@@michaelharrison3602 disagree
No Ron, not that
Poke his eyes out 😆
Tony went 30 seconds without a ciggie.
roy wud kill the lot of them if he lost his heAD .. a monster
So reminds me of ole stub's zz 3 CARD Bragg .thinking of ya where ever ya r 😉😎
I felt sorry for Tony, it was huge sentence because the Krays wouldn`t throw their hands up and they dragged everyone down with them
Don't feel sorry Tony loved the shadow of the krays, and for years the twins called him a rat. Judus.
@@patkearney9320 Still I think the sentence he got was extreme for what he did. The Krays according to there solicitor Ralph Haeems was offered a deal where everyone could have walked if they threw their hands up also they would have probably been better off anyway they would surely have got a smaller sentence. Its like they was on death wish and they dragged others down with them
What does he in the audience say at 5:43 ?
legends never rated
old school gangsters a dieing breed
There's always three sides to a good story as we all know. First of all, RIP, T. No one's going to write bad about themselves. Plenty of embellishment, having the liberty to write what you like.Tony and and his brother had different part's in the murder. Tony the bigger part because of his involment from start to finish. His brother after the fact. That the truth.
Tony was a role model prisoner always yes sir no sir three bags bla bla. In Brixton back in the 80 no one listened to his BS. And yes he told nipper what happened ( but wouldn't sign a statement) he dry snitched. No one considered him a gangster. And seeing him now! B.S LIES. He was a piss boy.
Strange night out to go on. Who would actually be bothered to ask a question
True crime fans.
True crime fans.
@@The_welder_ fans of crime?? What’s the difference between true crime and crime is this really cool 😂😂 all a bit sad
@James Tiltman I see your previous comments are abusive. I hope you find the help you need friend.
@@The_welder_ thanks mate. I’ll take it your a fan of crime. Interesting life view, I’m a fans of no crime in general so I would suggest it’s you and other “lovers of crime” who need help. Is it all crime you love such as burglary or just the really cool stuff
Wot a mess we are all in the mess they were involved in eod there mess learn from it people because the mess hasn't changed just the faces God help us all
who was bloke they fell out with?
The Word frank Fraser
why is it tony has good words to say about the twins but his brother says the opposite?? anyone know?
Clive Wilson Tony is a bit of a hypocrite really because he said he had a lot of respect for awning but it put money down about selling the books and making money and he needs work so we'll be all for all the killings with money writing a book I'm quite so going to get it I'll make your own mind up about Tony I'll be turning in some aspects he's very genuine but he's also being a hypocrite crazy did the books make lucky money inside not outside and we gotta remember that craze a bunch of bullies what do you need to sell them to make money and I know two people bellend by morning and they had nothing to do with the gangster f****** thing so as a bit b******* to but I guess it's making your mind up and know what the truth is
+badboybaldy1 hi mate, thanks for the reply but is there any chance you can reread what you wrote and post again? as I can't made head nor tale of it, Lol.. thanks bud
Lol sorry mate on me tablets and haven't slept for a few days . I repost it later today k . I just read it fuck no wonder u can't understand it Clive lol
+badboybaldy1 Lol no worries mate, I know what writing on these "smartphone" ext can be like..
Fuck can I buy some of those tablets???😜😜😂😂
Kray boss????? Lol!
It says that on the front of his book too
@@johnc4701 he wasn't even really a close inner member of the gang, more of a recent addition to the hangers on at the time of his arrest. If he wasn't there the night of mcvities murder and used by the twins to get rid of the body, no one would ever have heard of him. He was hardly a master criminal or even a known hard man.
@@gutz323 and all his talk about keeping his trap shut isn't strictly true. He wrote a statement against the twins
@@gutz323 he wasn't even given the task to get rid of the body. He just went back to find his brother
Mr T is on next time
True proper people the old school not many of them left ard today ..keep ur mouth shut and do ur bird ..
What a sad lot of old men and hangers on
where's frank
Frank wasn't there because he is the only one that got out of prison and has since been there for all people needing help copping with life problems
@@johnmicallef2627 Fraser died eight years ago, which is seven years before your comment. God, people write some shite on here.
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Tony sounds like hes chewing a brick
Better than Ron and Reg chewing a prick...or five.
foremans the only decent gangster ther,who would take 16 years for the krays,muppett
Foreman took 10 for them
The word is LOYALTY!
don't think u understand the no comment no grassing law among crims mate. it's kinda how the whole thing works. live by the sword. no going back kinda thing
@@imogenkent6183 cos they were so loyal when telling people they had to tell the police they killed the people the Krays did. What mug would do tht...
Tony was no no boss just a very minor pawn in there firm
Tony and Chris only associated with the twins in the last 8 months of their freedom. Chris and Tony were eager to run errands for the twins and it cost them 15 years.
I wasn't around when these guys were doing their stuff so i won't know the truth, but I have a query and it's that in a few videos on TH-cam I've heard geezers from back then saying that Tony wasn't really liked and that he was the main reason Jack the hat Mcvitie got killed cause apparently he kept going backwards and forwards to Reggie and Ronnie telling them both things that Jack had done or said, like rubbing salt into the wound and Tony if this is the truth, he goes around trying to look like a good fella a nice guy, knowing that Ronnie was a blinking psycho and could do something very bad, Tony should of kept his mouth shut, as I've also heard on videos that Jack was a nice guy, liked by loads and that he had never done anything against the Krays for Reggie to take it that far, Jack in a drunken stupor might of made a silly comment, but nothing to get killed about. So question is was or is Tony a nice person or not?
its sad really most of em are penniless with no friends the end result of being schoolyard hard men take
notes kids
Don't kn a lot abt tony
All mugs apart from Foreman. Got laughed out of Liverpool.
Ian Barrie had quite a presence about him too .
Tony and Ian were at HMP Featherstone finishing off in '81 .
Wrong.......................................................................
Kev
The Guy I think you are referring to was a guy called "Ronnie Bender"
Been well documented by both Roy Adams (Hard Nights)
And Paul Grimes ( Powder Wars)
Read both books ;)
If I don't like some 1 I will slag them down behind their back .but I will also say to their face
The kray twins they were made examples of they shouldn't ever ever got 30 years the ones that they killed with no good people anyway and deserved it at the end of the day kray twins we're a good firm wish I was around that time
Could have left your front and door unlocked.
The way Reggie carried himself inside they couldn’t let him out he played the Godfather trying to impress young guys, I was a young man and he creeped me out in Durham, the way he’d smile at you was truly creepy.
About pointing fingers lol read Tony's statements in them he clearly grasses the twins up big time lol he didn't think they'd be assessable but he was wrong and everybody know the score
Inaudible.
Bell end
Kray boss?? Former kray enforcer?? Don’t make me laugh 😂 more like a nobody who ponced off there name. Fraud. 🙄
You could say the same about any one of the firm none of them had ever been on a serious bit of work
@@michaelharrison3602 Hm disagree. How you think they made Acquaintances with them
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