I have to disagree with the first one. I feel like if you agreed to make plans with someone you have the responsibility to follow through with such plans. I'm less likely to want to make plans again with you if you flake because I'm scared you might just do it again. Flaking on your friends should really not become a habit especially doing it on the day. It's frustrating because you get excited and prepared for it then you just cancel. I'd even go as far as to think it's little selfish as well.
Well sure, until we're factoring in mental health. I can't really predict when I'll wake up and need to stay locked down in one spot trying not to think about killing myself.
@@Jeremy-hx7zj came here to say this. I have not only mental health factors but also chronic pain so I don't know how I'll feel in an hour let alone a week or whatever. Best wishes to you on your mental health journey 💜
If it’s a every once in a while thing then i’d say it’s not a big deal, but if you’re doing it consistently and telling your friends “I’ll definitely be there” only to call the morning of and cancel that’s jerk behavior. Like you have to address the pattern at that point and see that you’re getting all your friends hopes up only to let them down. Also if y’all are buying tickets to places and then canceling at a point where they can’t be refunded? Asshole move
@@Jeremy-hx7zj that's fair. I'm just trying to consider both parties. To getting really excited about going out and seeing someone - then being let down and feeling like nobody wants to be around you because that person flaked on you. It's hurtful to their mental health as well. It's just inconvenient and frustrating to now have to be alone with nothing to do because your plans were cancelled.
On the topic of bailing on social situations, you two are spot on when cancelling or going through your plans. I spent years going through cycles of depression and I would often do this. Some days I was tired and really didn't want to hang out with friends. Other days I was just too depressed or I had such low self-esteem that I would bail almost last minute. I definitely disappointed some friends along the way, but it usually worked out. One thing I could say to everyone as a good life lesson/idea is that the people that understand why you can't always be there for them are the people you want to keep as friends. As long as you hold the same standards for yourself when friends can't be there for you, you are on the path to finding a real lifelong friend. Understanding each other on a personal level is just as important as having mutual interests or complimentary personalities. Also, as a frequent reddit user, I take offense! 😡😂
That last story. The whole family is toxic. The sister for cheating, the parents for cutting their own child out because he didn’t support her, then using other family members to manipulate him with guilt, and the OP for trying to get back at his sister by trying to convince their parents to uninvite her to the family gathering. Let me be clear, nobody is required to endure narcissistic abuse from family. Once you are old enough to move away, you have the full ability to protect your own mental health. I’ve done it. My mother taught me how because she stopped taking the mistreatment as well. The backhanded compliments, the gossip and lies, it was totally unnecessary. But to escape it means to not emulate that behavior. Do not try to get back at them by treating them how they treated you. You can be around them but make clear boundaries. The moment they play their games, walk away. Don’t make a scene. Just go. For your own health. It will be completely obvious to other family members that the boundaries have been crossed. And yeah, that’s going to be talked about after you leave. And it might embarrass the mean one, they may not care, it doesn’t matter because you will be away from the situation and next time your other family members will check them on their crap before they push that boundary again. Nobody has to take mistreatment. And nobody should reward the narcissist by fighting back.
I have to disagree with the first one. I feel like if you agreed to make plans with someone you have the responsibility to follow through with such plans. I'm less likely to want to make plans again with you if you flake because I'm scared you might just do it again. Flaking on your friends should really not become a habit especially doing it on the day. It's frustrating because you get excited and prepared for it then you just cancel. I'd even go as far as to think it's little selfish as well.
100% agree
Well sure, until we're factoring in mental health. I can't really predict when I'll wake up and need to stay locked down in one spot trying not to think about killing myself.
@@Jeremy-hx7zj came here to say this. I have not only mental health factors but also chronic pain so I don't know how I'll feel in an hour let alone a week or whatever. Best wishes to you on your mental health journey 💜
If it’s a every once in a while thing then i’d say it’s not a big deal, but if you’re doing it consistently and telling your friends “I’ll definitely be there” only to call the morning of and cancel that’s jerk behavior. Like you have to address the pattern at that point and see that you’re getting all your friends hopes up only to let them down. Also if y’all are buying tickets to places and then canceling at a point where they can’t be refunded? Asshole move
@@Jeremy-hx7zj that's fair. I'm just trying to consider both parties. To getting really excited about going out and seeing someone - then being let down and feeling like nobody wants to be around you because that person flaked on you. It's hurtful to their mental health as well. It's just inconvenient and frustrating to now have to be alone with nothing to do because your plans were cancelled.
On the topic of bailing on social situations, you two are spot on when cancelling or going through your plans. I spent years going through cycles of depression and I would often do this. Some days I was tired and really didn't want to hang out with friends. Other days I was just too depressed or I had such low self-esteem that I would bail almost last minute. I definitely disappointed some friends along the way, but it usually worked out. One thing I could say to everyone as a good life lesson/idea is that the people that understand why you can't always be there for them are the people you want to keep as friends. As long as you hold the same standards for yourself when friends can't be there for you, you are on the path to finding a real lifelong friend. Understanding each other on a personal level is just as important as having mutual interests or complimentary personalities.
Also, as a frequent reddit user, I take offense! 😡😂
My favorite is Phoebe from Friends when she says
"I wish I could, but I really don't want to."
That last story. The whole family is toxic. The sister for cheating, the parents for cutting their own child out because he didn’t support her, then using other family members to manipulate him with guilt, and the OP for trying to get back at his sister by trying to convince their parents to uninvite her to the family gathering.
Let me be clear, nobody is required to endure narcissistic abuse from family. Once you are old enough to move away, you have the full ability to protect your own mental health. I’ve done it. My mother taught me how because she stopped taking the mistreatment as well. The backhanded compliments, the gossip and lies, it was totally unnecessary.
But to escape it means to not emulate that behavior. Do not try to get back at them by treating them how they treated you. You can be around them but make clear boundaries. The moment they play their games, walk away. Don’t make a scene. Just go. For your own health. It will be completely obvious to other family members that the boundaries have been crossed. And yeah, that’s going to be talked about after you leave. And it might embarrass the mean one, they may not care, it doesn’t matter because you will be away from the situation and next time your other family members will check them on their crap before they push that boundary again.
Nobody has to take mistreatment. And nobody should reward the narcissist by fighting back.
How does drunk guy know he didn’t corner the coworker since he was clearly unable to read discomfort?
Those parents are completely in the wrong.
anyone else just knew about the Ship of Thesius because of Wandavision or is it just me xD
Trevor, you PokéLegend you
It's goddamned 3am why you uploading.. with all the love, wtf
I am the only degenerate who should be up at this time, and I have a damned good job which expects me to be up early tomorrow.
Why you do dis????
Grandpa
Yes you are.