The Dangers of Unconscious Bias | Hollyoaks
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Martine's health is at risk... because of someone's unconscious bias.
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The sad thing is that Peri didn’t even said sorry, it was her fault for double booking, Not Martinez. And she had the courage to blame her.
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@@crockettfinn You really think that's an apology for Peri calling Martine aggressive....?
Both women were being aggressive
@@shandatoney2611 true, but Felix has nothing to do with a double booking! 😊
@@shandatoney2611 😂
This episode was so heartbreakingly good. The actress that plays Martine is so talented and she’s also great when she’s on Loose Women!
She was brilliant singer in eternal too
@@xx_crystal_xx9110 Now I know that the actor and actresses who plays Cher, Darren and Nana aren’t the only ones who can sing and the actor who plays Darren was on the show “Dancing With The Stars”! 😂😂😂😂 Question really quick (Two actually). How would you feel that if one Day Hollyoaks became a musical like the shows American Horror Story, Empire, Glee, Julie And The Phantoms, Riverdale, Nashville, Scream Queens and Victorious. 😃😃😃😃 What do you think???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
R White I can’t wait to watch tomorrow!!!! ☺️☺️☺️☺️
@@ChelseyLinden you don’t have to wait until tomorrow, you can watch the episode right now on E4, it’s airing now
@@nicolew4513 I can’t because of the Country I live in Nicole.
It's the same feeling when people say things to me like "posh", "talking/sounding white", "proper" and/or "acting white" just because my vocabulary and punctation is correct and accurate cos I don't speak like the stereotypical black person. I speak articulately, that's all.
I get the same thing as a black man
Exactly, society is too corrupted.
@@Dangerkiller-D and prejudiced... Ohh, and selfish too. ☹️
I get the same thing a lot and i'm based in london
There’s no type of stereotype black person. My grandfather is a black man who didn’t talk black. He was well mannered and well brought up and spoke with an accent. Being white and being black there is no difference and those who see there is a difference needs to be educated because Times of changed. It’s not them and us it’s we!
i really don’t understand why skin colour matters to anyone? like, ANYONE, why is it even a problem
Both of my parents have/had cancer and I would be heartbroken if they were delayed their treatment because of their skin colour. This episode upset me more than I thought it would. Cancer doesn't discriminate. Neither should healthcare.
These actors (especially Grace, Peri and Martine) are doing such an amazing job with this storyline!
this episode was written amazingly. i just hope peri gets a piece of someone’s mind.
Nicole W Hopefully that “piece of someone’s mind” is Brooke, Celeste, Martine, Ripley and Walter! 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯🤯 What do you think Nicole???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Nicole W Okay maybe not Walter considering he’s a priest and priest’s don’t go having down hill conversations with People like that tbh.
Oh boy this episode is gonna make a LOT of people uncomfortable and I'm glad it will
Watched it last night then went to hollyoaks page well recieved and it was powerful
Yes, it is going to make some very uncomfortable and face how they have been acting. The things that has been happening in the U.S. and England (Harry and Megan) I believe is what led to this storyline. This storyline is going to make people think about how they unconsciously treat others who look different from them. I'm just going to sit back and read the comments.
I just thought it was unrealistic, because it was. No normal person would act this way towards someone just because they're black.
@@jaywest3734 yes they would, thats the whole point, most people dont realize they're doing it, thats why its called unconscious bias
@@salvatore2004 It wouldn't happen like the way it played out in this episode, it wasn't realistic.
This is exactly what's needed in Hollyoaks how subtle it seems but it's huge.. this feeling I know all too well as I'm sure many others reading this do too! The grey area was amazing.. so powerful!! Hit the like if you're tired of people confusing your passion with aggression 😑
How can Peri act like that. "Grace obviously really needs it". Of course she does, but Martine needs it just as much as Grace does and as she said, she was there first. She also wasnt aggressive, she reacted how any person in that situation would have reacted and we all know if Grace was the one who didnt get the appointment she would have kicked off a lot more and nothing would have been said.
Exactly. I hated the aggressive part. 😔💔
Wasn't realistic.
@@jaywest3734 What do you mean, black women get labelled as aggressive all the time for acting no more "aggressive" than a white person in the same situation who doesn't get that label
@@cirahquinn8102 The storyline wasn't realistic. All the things that happened to her wouldn't just happen in one day like that, and people that she knew wouldn't come out with that shit. I live in America and it at least wouldn't happen around people I know. My boss is a black female and I respect her, so.
@@jaywest3734 I never said you didn't have respect. They don't have time to spread it out over days, weeks or months, so they put all the problems into one episode. Its a TV show, it can speed up things for the narrative, doesn't mean the issues are any less real
It’s so sad to see this but even worse that it’s so real 😞
The fact that POC get called aggressive when they stand up for themselves is disgusting
Kelle Bryan was amazing in this episode. 👏🏾👏🏾
I really hope she gets an award for her performance she really deserves it, but this episode deserves a soap award
Agree
When I first watched this , I was blown away at how well written this was . Almost brought me to tears as a young black woman. “I can’t compete with the story you’ve created in your head” such a powerful like. I’m happy this was specific to black women - because that “strong black women” trope is so dehumanising. We are allowed to feel vulnerable and be protected.
Amazing episode! Well done to all involved and definitely to Kelli who acted her socks off!
Martine's speech had me in tears. No one should be made to feel that way. I hate racism I pray for a day it doesn't exist. It's so sad we live in a world still fighting for the same things Martin Luther king did.
Sadly, storylines like this don’t help, unconscious bias is a new lefty buzzword that divides people further not unite
@@JayJay-nc7pr I agree this is an agenda wow or is it me being paranoid about this role. I don't think so, simply because there is no trust. Like this damn pandemic they give a little to appease then wham lock down again. People need to be wary of those in power they're sleek in their and lies.
As a woman of colour, there’s always been times when I’ve been unsure whether a person is being racist to me or not just because it’s always been quite subtle whereas in the media it’s always depicted as something really obvious and in your face. It’s the subtle things like how people will treat u over a certain incident compared to if a similar situation happened to a white person. I’ve always been grown up in a pretty much white community, so I’ve always been unsure/uncomfortable talking about racism when it seems like such a subtle thing that can be dismissed so easily.
Well said. Very glad Hollyoaks did this storyline. People think unless you are yelling slurs, or being overtly racist, that means you have nothing to improve on. We can all do better on not making snap judgements and consider why we think a certain way about certain people. We also need to LISTEN to other people's stories. Some of the reactions on here are quick to dismiss this story when it is based on MANY black women's experiences with healthcare.
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This made me cry really hits home. Well done Kelle I always looked up to you and your timeless beauty
SO POWERFUL! Martine is the definition of Queen😢💜
That's how you use your platform to bring awareness after saying BLM👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Mmhmm, they're *so* amazing that *two* of the black cast members quit because of racism from the crew.
@@Vixyvix01 perhaps that's why they are trying to do better
The subject of "aggression", in particular is a struggle that is also felt by black men too, myself included. A number of white people I've come across expect me to be calm, happy and content, but once I stand up for yourself or call something out that is not right, they either play the victim, get scared/offended and tell me to stop being so 'aggressive'.
I'm so glad that Hollyoaks had the balls to call this out.
I'm white and people are like that with whites Asians blacks and every other race stop racial profiling and get on with ur life
@@Adam-uz9sc Of course, I know this is an issue that affects all people regardless of race, creed and class. I was just merely expressing my own personal experience and opinion. Have a nice day, pal.
@@Adam-uz9sc no one said it didn't happen to other he's say how he feels
@@stars63964 how am I on a troll account I'm called Adam and my postcode in m43
When you stand up for yourself as a black person your called 'aggressive' or 'you have a chip on your shoulder' but I never hear the latter being used on any other race when there being confrontational! Am glad Hollyoaks have highlighted this issue.
Unconscious bias is how Dr. Susan Moore ended up dying from COVID :(.
Mixed race here, and I really appreciate/love this story line. Love to every multicultural person out there🙏🏼 love to everyone🙏🏼
There is definitely racial bias in healthcare, though honestly I'm american so I can't speak to British healthcare. But I had to switch doctors a few months ago because of racism.
I cried after I heard her story I feel so bad I understand how to treat everyone the same but... Wow
Martine said nothing but the truth well done Martine.
Now this spreads an amazing message
Wow... this is so powerful I am so proud of Kelle Bryan for her delivery and commend the writers.. #howcanyoubebetter well done Hollyoaks
“Microagressions” nobody over the age of 25 knows what that is
Hi. Hello. 28. I know what it means. Thanks.
You mean under
I don't think peri would say that normally
Imagine living in a world where you can just be black and treated the same. I hate this planet honestly.
I just can't believe, Peri especially with this act she pulled here, on Martine geez that was deep.
This is a very powerful and important storyline.🥺
hollyokes-telling us that racism bad
while also portraying two women as children arguing over felix like hes the last toy in a sandpit
...its frustrating
dont get me started on how abusive women are treated as powerful but when men display the exact same behaviour their cruel and evil
(Ill let you guess who i have in mind with that issue)
I use to be immpressed with hollyoaks abillity to tell intreating and realistic portrayals of REAL issues but now im seeing a serius decline in quality due to pathetic exaggerated responses to utter non-issues like this!
THANK YOU! I’m sorry, I’m not racist and I think it’s disgusting. But I don’t get how anyone could experience this and think “oh yeah, that’s racism”. No. It couldn’t just be the interviewer didn’t like her answer, or didn’t overly like her. Grace was crying so Perri felt more sorry for her than Martine who wasn’t , she had to choose one of them and she picked. Maybe perri shouldn’t have turned martine away but that was a professional issue, and nothing to do with race. And I can’t hold this opinion without someone interrupting and telling me how it’s my “white privilege”.
The same with this whole ordeal at the moment about women and men. We are literally being taught to fear every man, blaming them all for a couple of men. Yet nobody ever mentions the women who hurt or kill or rape. “Not all men but enough to make a difference”. Yet that is the same for women.
Honestly, we are just becoming a society of moaners. Blaming people for things that aren’t their fault. Calling them racist for taking a certain view, sexist for standing up for equality. Why we can’t all just be totally equally and stop blaming each other is beyond me
@@chloecarpenter1404 Them white tears instantly stopped before she walked through those doors Grace was putting on a show
Omgg her acting was amazing😍I didn’t realise things was this bad in real life
Seriously Peri???
Martine and peri are really good actors
Well done Hollyoaks 🙌🏾🙌🏾
oh….I see it now
You think this is hard to watch 😂 watch THEM on AMAZON Prime, yikes couldn't finish it, and if you're sensitive SKIP episode 5, i had to end the series there, i couldn't watch anymore it was too disturbing x
Sooo important black babies have a higher mortality rate in US hospitals alone because of this even though it's births aren't complicated .... I am happy and sad that it's shown. But needs to be this is a public service!!!
The same in the U.K.
Havnt really been watching much Hollyoaks lately but that was an incredible scene for a soap..very deep, emotional and saddening but i suppose true to life..Martine is cool, good actress and so beautiful..i hope this scene and its message resonates with people. Nice job Hollyoaks, not an important part of this scene or whatever but damn i cant stand Grace🤔
Go Kelle, that's my Eternal girl #PowerOfAWoman ❤❤❤
Well done hollyoaks
Love this show
This is so emotional. I cried a bit while watching.
Way to go hollyoaks addressing the racism issue 👏👏👏
What a load of bollocks.
Is anyone else having a hard time seeing some of the comments?
I’m hating perri’s character
Clever clever writers 👍
i get what Hollyoaks was trying to do but them trying to put peri as racist is kinda annoying
That’s not quite what they are doing. They are talking about us challenging our subconscious bias, many people like Peris character in this don’t think “why did I make that decision” or “why did one persons actions seem aggressive to me when another’s didn’t” after the right wing grooming story we know open discrimination and racism is not what she’s about. But this story and using a character we know not to be our picture of a racist is important because it makes us all think of our own behaviour instead of finding ourselves not guilty all the time or defensive. Great and well done episode, makes people think.
YESSSS HOLLYOAKS, speak on it🗣
This was so well written.
This is too true.
Poor Martine
Terrible storyline. Great acting by Martine.
loving this blm storyline
I love this but unfortunately hollyoaks it’s self has treated me this way and as an actress. It was at a time they were only hiring white actresses and my agency who predominately had actors who are hired by hollyoaks had to shut down because it didn’t reach the diversity quota. I was the 1% it was only me. I’m glad they brought this up but perhaps check yourself as I don’t see black people on this show even getting the proper hair and make up. Constant head scarfs Durags and bad wigs.
There shouldn't be a diversity quota. Hello tokenism. Shows like Hollyoaks should employ based on acting experience, ability and talent, just like any employer should do. If that meant the entire cast was black then so be it.
This storyline is so cringe worthy. What if Peri had chose the black woman? This is black privilege, you can play the race card anytime you don’t get what you want.
What is black privilege? What is a race card? How are they used?
What is black privilege?? I haven’t experienced it but maybe it will happen for me one day soon
More race baiting good job
Well it actually has been received as a positive episode from comments I've seen on social media for those that watched it yesterday ... opened up positive dialogue so clearly a well needed episode .... unconscious bias is being added to alot of training in workplaces etc as it clearly exsists. Raising awareness is not race baiting
Raising awareness of how prominent racism, unconscious bias and micro aggressions are in society is not race baiting. If you’re uncomfortable good, it’s your choice to watch the episode, but for black people, and other people of colour it’s not their choice to experience this sort of treatment everyday.
How!???
There is no such thing just another race baiting narrative. If you are racist your racist ever decision you make you use your brain there is no such thing as unconscious bias
@@shandatoney2611 there is. Calling a black woman agressive for simply standing up for herself is a micro aggression, peri doesn’t realise or even know that, she didn’t understand how using that word is stereotyping Martine, that an unconscious bias. Peri has obviously never been used about micro aggression that white people used against black people everyday especially black women.
This is just stupid, fair enough peri overbooked but grace was first either one of grace or martine had to get seen thst day at that time, if she had told martine to go through, it would be seen as racist against grace because shes white, and as for peri asking martine to stop being aggressive she would say the same to grace if she was being aggressive towards her, im all for blm but the hospital scenes weren’t racist or anti-blm
ok soap
This video th-cam.com/video/RhqMEiTVICU/w-d-xo.html explains what it is and why it’s important. Leave a comment below the video and we will reply.
Hang on I'm white and get treated the same ! Where I live . What on earth will it be like in another 10 years for our kids in this world . . Love Hollyoaks tho x
You might be treated like that in the area you live but the whole point here is that Martine was treated differently to Grace by the very same people. It's not saying white people aren't ever treated disrespectfully. Black people are more likely to experience these micro-aggressions than white people and it is racist when certain people who don't do it to white people do it to black people
Racism on any level is wrong the way the world is looking there will be alot more white people who will experience Racism
This episode is highlighting unconscious bias and for this particular character on the show this is her experience.... Unconscious biases are social stereotypes about certain groups of people that individuals form outside their own conscious awareness. Everyone holds unconscious beliefs about various social and identity groups, and these biases stem from one's tendency to organize social worlds by categorizing. So yes it can have an impact on other people but for the purpose of this storyline it is being told through the characters experience.
@@shandatoney2611 Hmmm the reason one should treat everyone with respect it won't be nice when the cards switch.
@@simmysim1422 correct i agree its a social construct to cause divide and keep it that way. Media has a lot to answer for.
Literally propaganda
Channel 4: "Let's come up with as many contrive scenarios to fan the flames of racial tensions as we can"
Or just shine light on the truth 🤷♀️
Most unrealistic shit ever, all the stuff that happened to her wouldn't just happen to her in one day like that. I laughed when girl was like "stop being so aggressive."
it was all simple things; everyday tasks. that’s the point
Black power ❤️❤️❤️
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tbh she was aggressive
No she was not!!!! You clearly miss the point that was being made
If Grace reacted the same way, no one would bat an eye.
Loool how on earth was she aggressive FFS
No she's not that's the whole point. She stood up for herself, that's not aggression, she isn't yelling or being violent.
No she wasn’t. She simply didn’t understand why Grace got seen first, peri double booked the appointment and martine arrived first. Grace only got seen because she was upset. Martine has a lump as well, might have cancer as well and is just as scared as grace is, that’s not aggressive.
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Lol I love it what load of left wing tosh, I was skipping the channels and watched the last 15 mins of this and haven’t followed Hollyoaks for about 5 years wth happened when did it become ok to be so anti-white ? Also this acting is by the kamala Harris looking women is pathetic I couldn’t stop laughing when she was reading her diary 😂😂
Oh please 🙄 be quiet
For crying out loud Peri you should’ve helped Martine first not going around 🎵”Falling”🎵 (Harry Styles: Falling 😉😉😉😉) for Grace’s tears of crying. 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Martine had every right to stand up for herself and if I didn’t know any better I’d say that interviewer might have a thing for Grace Black. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 And if you’re thinking that I’m wanting everyone in the village to be Bisexual, Gay or Lesbian. 🤨🤨🤨🤨 Think again! 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯🤯 (I’ve always wanted to say that “Think again part” 🤣🤣🤣🤣!) And every time I hear about racism in the village I’m always saying “And I thought Black Slavery was over. 😠😠😠😠😡😡😡😡🤯🤯🤯🤯 Looks like I was wrong. 😔😔😔😔” I hope Martine’s lump won’t be cancerous or anything and I hope #Melix will get back together and be a Familia. 😟😟😟😟🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 What do you People think???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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I'm earlyyyy
You were also first
First
no one cares
So what
Imagine not being first but saying first
@@fgwrts no one cares
@@nicolew4513 Exactly. Nobody doesn't care I agree. I don't care if someone comments first, second or third because it's not a race or competition. It's not a big deal to be honest! 👍