Yeah, the only people who believe that this is a good update are the people dumb enough to believe they're getting to level 50 on F2P. I'm Kyber 5, 9 mil GP and I'll be lucky to get to level 25 out of 50. So we're getting MAJORLY HOSED!
@@meglobob9217 honestly, lets say anyone that has never spent money on the game gets an ad, when they open it and then every like 30mins in game or after every 10th ingame fight. More money for CG and they have less incentive for money grabs.
It has double edged sword. If done properly, it will boost revenue and player satisfaction at the same time. I know a game that does it flawlessly. But a lot of the times, it makes the game much worse. I'm talking about you, unskip-able ads. Either way, i never see any EA games has implemented ad system (unless it's for other EA games, which i remember vaguely, is pretty rare)
The most recent GC is impossible for F2P players to clear any feats without Tuskens. If CG keeps this up with GC, then the only way you are reasonably getting the same rewards as before without dedicating all your time to the game is by opening your wallet and whaling for CG.
It's not even good for those of us who bought the pass. I'm a 7m gp roster, I bought the pass, and yet I'm totally locked out of both Tusken feats completely, and only can get up to 4* Huyang feats. I feel horrible for f2p, but I want to point out this GC structure is horrible even for those of us with the pass, too! How is it that those of us who DID open our purses, to fund CG's game, specifically to NOT be locked out of GC progress, are ALSO still locked out due to their obscure feats and the Marquee paywall. I don't think ANY of the feats should be paywalled, and the "win with pass active" is an absolutely horrible and malicious game "feat". With that being said, if they INSIST on paywall feats, then there's NO WAY there should be 2 feats paywalled. They should remove either the win with pass paywall, or the win with marquee paywall. I personally think the Marquee paywall feat is the best to remove, since it would benefit BOTH f2p and p2p players, whereas removing the "win with pass" paywall wouldn't ease the pressure on those of us who did buy the pass but can't do anything with obscure factions like Tuskens and momentum. Change the marquee feat to a generic skill/ mechanic feat for each GC. In other words, a feat that can be completed by any team or faction, like "win without losing a unit", or " win after 10 crits in a row", etc. That way there, at least one feat every GC is accessible to both f2p and p2p, and they still have their incentive for pass buyers with the "win with pass" feat, even though I think that's so silly.
Totally agree! To me, I appear to be paying $20 just to get the rewards I got before. Definitely not getting the same rewards as before. Thus, people are already wrong.
I think you’re right that CG sees the trend in the game shifting down and they are switching to milking mode while they still have a relatively large player base. The funny thing is this cash grab makes me much less likely to spend money on things like light speed bundles.
I cannot even do 1 thing on today’s challenge with a 6mil account…. Which means I earn nothing… this has to be the stupidest update ever on a game I have ever seen. Swgoh is nothing more than a pathetic joke at this point.
The most you can get is 2 of 4 feats if you dont have battle pass and assuming you dont have the new character. So you cant free to play at all anymore. There is a whole section of the game that you can't play unless you cough up 20 bucks
I agree with you Nooch. Not simple. Paywall is a kick in the d*ck. What really bothers me with GC's is that they have taken a game mode and made it so I cannot play it. Next couple weeks is Tuskens and Jawa's... Two teams that I have never had a reason to invest in at 6.3gp. So I have zero reason to play and enjoy GC anymore. They have tKen this mode away from me.
Yea, I bought the pass, but I totally sympathize with f2p, and also, this isn't good even for those of us with the pass. The marquee paywall is obscene, WAY too expensive for even most spenders to access every time. Also, if they insist on sticking with this style of the update, then they ABSOLUTELY need to take out all obscure factions and feats from ALL future GCs. I'm 7m gp, and a somewhat heavy whale, but I've only been playing for 13 months, so I don't have Tuskens at all. I have 3 unlocked. Despite buying the pass, I couldn't make ANY progress on 2 entire feats, PLUS I could only achieve up to 4* Huyang feats. What was the point of spending $20 fricken dollars of my husband's and mine hard-earned money, to STILL be locked out of majority of the GC?? I thought the whole point of the pass was to avoid being disadvantaged in the GCs and to gain some extra rewards. But if they keep doing GCs with super obscure factions, then the value from the pass is significantly hindered. I feel scammed, and unless they remove the obscure factions from GC and alter the marquee paywall feats, I doubt I'll buy the pass again. It's a betrayal of BOTH free to play and Pay to Play, and I feel like all the attention is on how Free To Players are being spit on, while noboby is acknowleding how most Pay to Players are being spit on, too! How many of us spenders, even us whales, buy a 7* Marquee every time? Probably a small percent. I bought a 6* Punishing One, and that was the most I ever spent on a Marquee, despite spending a few thousand dollars overall since joining 13 months ago. This update needs to be adjusted, big time. Change the Marquee paywall feat to a generic skill/ mechanic feat for all GCs, like "win without losing a unit", or "win after 10 crits in a row", so that everyone, f2p and p2p, can make at least some decent progress every GC and not be totally screwed by obscure factions.
Yeah. The current GC I could get literally none of the feats beyond 3* Huyang on tier 1-2 without paying. The rest are inaccessible without a very specific and completely outdated squad. Where before I was doing at least box 8, this would be the equivalent of getting no crates at all. The numbers work out apparently, but it feels bad for sure. With all these missing points, I guess we'll see if f2p is even actually completing the f2p track to get that purported parity with prior rewards.
I couldn't care less if the math says you can complete it. The problem is we have to hope CG doesn't give us galactic challenges that are absolute garbage to complete. Starting with rebel fighters sets the tone for the entire update and that tone is "you're gonna need teams that most f2p don't have upgraded". I'm 12mil gp even i barely have a rebel fighter team, my tuskens and Jawas are g12. I'll be fine as i spend money on this game, it's not about me though. For an update touting "one thing we wanted to concentrate on is our f2p players" it's certainly doing a lot of things that screw them over
This change is another nail in swgoh’s coffen: for us f2p players who have been a long time developing our game it slow us down, because we can get less omicrons (3 per week instead of 4), at the same time it helps people who buy the passes to get much more omicrons, in a few months f2p will be in a very bad position.
Honestly, I can't understand how any logical human being can say that the update of putting "complete the battle" and the marquee crap behind a paywall is a "good update". It's like the government saying that bottled water is better than ever but your tap water is undrinkable now.
Because logically, the math works? It’s a good update because I get more stuff and I get agency over it, at the cost of being reminded that people could pay more to get more. This is industry standard, and Swgoh Was better than the industry for a while, but water finds its level. It’s a change, and it viscerally will feel bad for a while. But then two months will go by and things will be the same or better. And you will get used to it, you will know the math works - because it will have worked for you. The thing that’s worse for the game is all the content creators getting together to collectively make money off rage bait videos. If everyone had made videos lowering the temp of the community by talking about the math, why this change is a positive and yes mentioning the feel bads instead of crying out about the game dying, the community wouldn’t be in such a bad spot. If you want to talk about greed, look at all the content creators doing what’s best for their bottom line, not for the community.
@TheMegaMTG I'm sorry but I am not going to place the state of the game's blame on the content creators lol... they are usually the driving force for positive change and voicing the opinions of the community on the grandest stage for developers to see when there is clearly an issue worth addressing and also showing them the things we appreciate most and respond most positively towards. The trajectory of the game and state of the game is on the developers. I would say a majority of the player base don't tune in to content creators anyway, so the reason they leave or stay can't be a result of "rage bait"
They said "F2p players will be able to complete the track". They forgot to mention that only f2p players that have 8 year old accounts with all the teams are the ones that will BARELY be able to finish it, without daring to miss one day. It's not their fault, it's ours. Give a round of applause for all of us who bought LSB's after the new update was out. We deserve this treatment from CG because we're only cows for them to milk.
I got screwed with the galactic conquest and the new episode quest today I can only get 2 feats done in total I am on an account only a month and 3/4 old I have none of these things I still think marquee and episode pass should be added rewards for the high end players that pay. We need more FTP feats like we had
this upadte also forces you to play every. single. day. For me who loves the game and plays it religously ofc it's not a problem, but I have a friend who only finds teh time to play it 2 or 3 times a week. With GC before he'd still get good rewards and progress, but now he will get like 25% of his previous omicrons and infinitly less gear, because he just doesn't have the time for it
Its so clear to me that we're gonna be short, omis, gear and everyone forgets the character shards we used to get with galatic challenges which are needed or convert to shard shop.. its so obvious they took rewards to push F2P or light spenders to buy a pass for 20 quid.
The Math ONLY works if you do everything you can! Normally I would have get one omicron in these tusken challenges… now I get nothing!!! As I logged in I directly logged out again…
You don't need the gc to get that omicron anymore that's the difference. Is that as "fun" maybe not depending on what you deem "fun" since that's subjective but it's actually easier than ever for you to get your rewards and for the 100th time I'll say it, GC feats are nothing new! Some GC's you'll have the teams needed others you won't just like before.
@ I need omicrons and if I can only do t2 with Huyang (because I don’t have tuskens yet) I get nothing… usually I would have gotten 1 because I finished the last tier and maybe the other requirement… so the math DOESN’T WORK FOR ME!
If you don’t do any galactic challenges for the whole month, you will still get 15/16 omis. With the old gc structure, you would’ve gotten 1 omi from this gc. Then assuming you reached box 8 in every other gc, you would be at 15 omis for the month total (maximum). Therefore it does work out the same and you won’t loose out on omis. But I get the frustration.
Great video Nooch! I totally share your point of view. This update drove the greatest player exodus since they introduced the conquest paywall. We taught this game had years to the counter still but we the share amount of players quitting this week the future seems grim for sure.
This update is literally FORCING you to log in EVERY SINGLE DAY into the game and complete the dailies and what not for the rewards. You go onto a vacation? OOPSIE you are losing a lot of rewards and a Marquee - who knows when or if EVEN they will have a rotation later on....
@@24zawisza that's how it's always been. And yes to get ahead or even keep up in this game you need to play every day, that's the nature of this type of game
Indeed, i missed out on the adrad marquee bc i had quit for awhile and literally just unlocked him recently. I only blame myself for missing his marquee though and when i wanna farm him he's easily farmable
no matter how much math u show to other players, it's still irrelevant to those who don't play that much. galactic challenge was one of d events i get mats and shards but CG is choking those who don't want to spend.
For those saying the math adds up let me put this a way you may understand if I pay someone an apple to carry a box from there door to the road then after a few months of them getting that apple I say now I want you to take the box 3 miles down the road and I'm gonna still pay you an apple....the math adds up but it doesn't mean it's fair
So what if the math works out? Clearly they are after the money. Making those silly goals in galactic challenge and linking it to characters you need to spend money on says everything. We cant decently get omicrons any longer for free
@@NOOCH2GUDis simple, when you buy from the Web store for mobile (the PC client doesn't have this yet) you get points (coaxium) that go towards a rewards tree. Once you get to a specific level (parsecs) you get rewards for those levels (parsecs). You can get some points (coaxium) from the free daily box they give out, you will never max out the rewards from the free box, it is just another incentive to spend money. I'm assuming it resets every 28 days.
@@PacificEgg If you're f2p - you don't really have to worry about the complex parts. Just go in once a day when you get the free crates, click Kessel Run and get the 100 energy. If you miss it it stays available it looks like for two more days. The rest of it is honestly a pretty straightforward rewards program but you don't really have to interact with it to get the basic rewards. I hope this helps!
The daily episode quest just popped and it's to do 5 Galactic Challenge feats. After I already did my feats (and used a ton of credits to get 3 of my tuskins to 85 so I scrape a few feats out) so I guess I just miss out on those EPs and the 8000 EPs from completing 7 episode quests this week
@@stephendacruz179 notice there are no timers counting down, these quests UNLOCK one a day and last for the entirety of the episode. The only quest you HAVE to do in 24 hours is the one that releases on the last day
Something needs done about these galactic challenges. This is getting out of hand. I struggle enough between 4 accounts doing gc especially not always having teams. Something needs to be done and us as a community needs to speak up. There a difference of change and forcing something only people who can pay to play don't complain about.
To add, I quit the game years ago over the change to ships. I joined back a couple years ago to pick it back up as I had time, and for hopes of jarjar. All the changes coming back to took some getting used to but overall wasn't awful. I've grown to love the game again however since the gac crunch lady year I've seen nothing but a downhill spiral. Math or not this is the worst change I've seen, I frankly don't care if it's double the rewards the concept of this whole update atrocious and anyone who likes it has some serious issues.
THEY REFUSE TO BOYCOTT THEY CLOWN ME AND REFUSE TO BOYCOTT SO HONESTLY I AM ENJOYNG WATCHING YOU ALL MAD WHEN I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS CG IS GREEDY AND NEEDS TO BE FORCED TO CHANGE I GET TOLD TO SHUT UP AND HOW CAPITALISM IS GOOD SO WHY YOU CRYING NOW
@osets2117 even on one account, the biggest one I got is at 11 mil and these gc teams ain't up and running for jawas and reble fighters or to beat tier x tuskens. So regardless of one account or four this update absolutely sucks. If you like paying money to play just say so. Or buy everyone else the pass. Say something intellectual instead of "4 accounts seems a little excessive."
@@austin0634 oh I agree with you this update sucks, and I'm right there with you my account is 12mil and I barely have rebel fighters, my tuskens and jawas are both G12 at most. CG knows that most people wouldn't be able to complete these GCs because they want you to freak out and buy their pass just so you don't miss out on your rewards
Even tho it may look bad for free to play players, I still find enjoyment for the game such as collecting some characters and ships. I haven't spent a dime ever since it's early years and I'm still free to play on the present day. Although, I'm a bit disappointed with how many things are paid content, but there are always other ways to enjoy the game without becoming pay to play.
I'll be honest, I still am not a fan of the changes either. They are still catering to whales and have removed accessibility for f2p, especially in GC. All I can do for GC currently is the 3-star marquee for 2 feats. That's it. The rebel fighters I got to 4, but then I forgot to do the 3* Huyang for those too. And their supposed 'fix' that they gave today? All it did was make the paywall reward people more! It did not fix accessibility. The argument will be 'now the math is better.' The fundamental problem is accessibility here. And they have completely crapped the bed.
I'm going to add a reply to this: The next episode quest for f2p is PAY TO WIN!!! 5 GC feat completions for people without the teams to do them means you are relegated to the Marquee feats. How much worse will this get?
I agree, regardless of if the math checks out, it doesnt feel good. Its a crummy manipulation tactic to get more people to buy the pass and invest in the new marquees. They are giving us ec as an "apology" and restructuring the ec rewards both from daily quests and in gc, but not changing the feats. Dailies are being increased by 50 per quest and they are front loading the ec for gc. T1-5 give more t6 stays the same and t7-10 give less. Personally i think they should revert back to the normal 4 quests and then have the bonus 2 paywall rewards. Theyd have to restructure the ec rewards to keep it where they want it, but it wouldnt feel as bad
So up front I’ll say I don’t like the update. However, I disagree with the “simple rewards are gone.” I see it as I am given the latitude to choose which rewards I need most in my account at any given time.
Agree 100% with the character quests popping up on the screen, needs to go away. It's telling you that you completed a quest, then you go look to claim rewards and realize you can't claim without spending money, just a way they're trying to get you to buy the pass and spend money on marquee shards, they're exploiting that fear of missing out feeling.
That would be cool! I'm the great-niece of Bobby Fischer, and everyone on my father's line of my family are chess masters or grandmasters. I won an International Junior Chess Championship when I was an 11 year old girl, and have beaten one of South Korea's champions/ grandmasters 3 games out of 3 when I was 16 and in S. Korea as something akin to a TaeKwon Do "foreign exchange student". I LOVE chess, and would love to see how a Nooch plays! I'll bet he'd find he could be better than he thinks if he was patient with himself and practised. I'm on the Spectrum, and learned to play chess before I started talking (I didn't start speaking till I was almost 5, due to being on the Spectrum, but chess was one of the ways I got comfortable with socializing and interacting with other family members beyond my mom and older sister. It's such a powerful game). Sorry for the long winded comment, I just was really excited to see the love and respect Nooch showed to a game that my family is famous for!
Im a new player since 2 months. The update doesnt bother me that much in Sense of the whole character journey. Yes its Bad to be reminded nonstop with the quests ingame but you can ignore that. BUT what colossaly freaks me out Are the GCs. Im only at 630k cp but it was fun to try and get a little bit further each GC. I liked it. Now i think its fucked up. Today tusken came out. I did 2 Level with huyang 3* that Both got oneshot by my rex s3… and thats it. I cant give Momentum 150 times and i didnt spend on the pass. This rly destroys my experience. And im a mediocre spender if the Game is good and i Like it. But i always wait half a year or more to See if i Fall in love with it.
all they had to do was add one extra GC crate for spenders. you pay 20 bucks you get the best crate with extra rewards. problem solved. this whole update with all the changes was not needed at all.
Does this mean a Tuskan and Jawa lightspeed bundles could be coming down the road just for these GCs? Seems like everything except Galactic Legends and Legend type characters will be seeing Lightspeed bundles at some point.
The math doesn’t help me when I’m a casual player who doesn’t have the time to revolve my entire schedule for this game. If I miss a day, I’m out of luck. If I can’t log in the game to get the free energies during the timeframe? Well I guess to have to spend more gems than I’m actually rewarded making me lose gems to replenish my energies.
I don’t like how this all feels, but I am giving it the month to see how it plays before grabbing my pitchfork. Good on CG for the update. I am not sure if it would be complicated if we didn’t know the old system. It has created confusion and chaos for certain. IMO it is like so much of the F2P track in SWGOH. A player needs to be patient and let it build over time. It would have been wise to not throw Tuskens and Jawas at us right away.
The problem with the whole thing is psychologically it feels bad. It doesn't matter that mathematically, you get more rewards. It FEELS bad. I could offer you solid gold bars covered with priceless diamonds on top of a giant stack of crisp new hundred dollar bills inside of a priceless Ferrari and if I do it in a way that makes you feel bad, science says that something like 55% will reject the offer. I expect that this won't get better and that any iteration on it is only going to be tweeking rewards like they've already announced. I would love to be proven wrong, but I don't see them further redesigning things to give back the "Complete the battle" reward just to please non-spenders. So everyone should make their peace with it, or vote with your time and wallet and stop playing.
They claim quality of life by adding sims but adding more things to tap on in their maze of pay walls in game and the web store….probably some study on humans tapping more gets them more addictive. Then the FOMO in your face. You know what it feels like. When TH-camrs throw 15 ads on a video. Buy TH-cam premium or watch the ads. Makes for a shitty experience.
I agree with you 100%. Who cares about the math. The changes are too complex. 3 independent activities with separate rewards rolled into one time gated track so a $20 pass can be sold to monetize a previously non-monetized set of activities. Hope the P&L looks better after this change.
I do not know what they were thinking with this and the assualt battles. I dont think there is a single person thats happy with the current trajectory of the game.
Nooch, they added another galactic challenge quest in our episode quests. as a 90% f2p player, who is in desperate need of omis, this is enraging. i dont want to quit the game, as starwars is a passion, but every time i see a single promo message or insentive to buy a pass or crystals, a little bit of my will to live dwindles. this, quite frankly is hurting the f2p community like you said, and locks so much more of the game behind a paywall. do you think they did this on the back of the success of conquest? anyway, love your videos, really helpful, and ur gonna be seeing a lot more of me in your comments. much love man. keep it up
I agree with you 100%. I am a mostly free to play player so I will now not be getting any of these galactic challenge done. And on top of it It’s so complicate, so many steps and more work. I hate it.
Except at least some people are not looking at the math correctly from how they break it down. First there is zero reason to complicate something when someone is doing something positive for you. If you've ever worked a cash register for any real length of time you will know about the scam when making change. People will ask for change and in an overly complicated way so that you will mistakenly make change incorrectly and give them more back than they were asked to make change for. The way to avoid this(besides just not making change at all) is to break each part into a different step. If you take the total math before the rewards it has been said there are already less character shards(several that have done the math said this). It doesn't matter if you(generic and I'm not sure why people get that any more) don't want shards it is an overall loss for people. Then there is the fact that all the math I've seen has been calculating over the month, however the shop is 7 days. It really doesn't matter how much of the new currency you end up with if you miss 1/2/3 shops of rewards or part of rewards. The spacing of the new currency, the break down of what you receive at each node, etc. It is all meant to make it more likely that the average person miss rewards, to be allowed to be convinced it all works out, but to ultimately miss out and to spend. If you buy the pass, get enough of the marquee character each time, or do both then there is no worries. There is no advantage to this change from a system stand point. The only advantage is to the bottom line for making a sale. This is on top of the AB changes are not positive one for the player experience. They are asking you to make change.
Regardless of the math, they did add pay walls and ruined Galactic Challenge and didn't not fix any major bug issues and just added more ways to make money. Simple Greed. You weren't wrong to react the way you did Nooch. Anyone who supports the latest updates is naive and will constantly get taking advantage of for their money. It's adorable IMO. Just shows how many sheep play this game.
Based on your title I can say that if you pay for the update stuff then it is great but if your free to play then boo The other problem I have with it is that if you do not pay to play, it does not feel like you’re playing the game as they intended So in order to get everything that they offer for free to play, I have to treat this game like a full-time job. I don’t have time for that. Nobody has time for that.
it's so odd to do this during an Anniversary? It's almost like they thought they can sneak it in, it's a very odd ball company, last time I checked anniversaries are meant to CELEBRATE the game you played, not make a whole different game and give long time players a middle finger?
No I love the update! Who doesn’t love taking their relic 5 tuskens into the galactic challenge with their 7* huyang they spent £200 on and their £20 episode pass 🎉🎉🎉
Here is today's episode quest... complete 5 galactic challenges feats..... how? I can't get the completion feat without paying, I dont have tuskens, I dont have any way of gaining momentum, have to pay to get huang shards.... so even the free to play quest makes me have to wait to do this quest, or pay.....you can't make this crap up...
this is why i like nooch and i dont care that you are not top tier player bla bla, watching scrybe suggesting that f2p should invest in marquee crystal chest made me sick and i comment on his sht post vid.
Wow. Bespin: Droid. You literally cant get any points unless you run Tuskens........BUT, if you buy the pass or Huyang you can bypass Tusken and still get points
I used to be able to unlock a decent chest playing 1 battle with my best squad regardless if I had the required team. The math ant mathing for time/work 100%. We'll see how far I get on the track as just daily/f2p/sometimes rarely buying something if it's a good deal. Fml is a miss a daily log in
Remove the p2w popups, make all GC feats f2p that used to be. These two changes would go a long way. I actually kind of like choosing what I want in the store, but to each their own.
I got the Episode Pass, thats 24€ in Europe! not 20 😢, and the good thing is. I never use to buy the new char shards Packs or offers. And, for sure, i never got latest chars to 4*. So now my Huyang ist 4* and close to 5* 😊 when i noticed the tab for rewards was telling me i need 110 shards i was rly made. Sitting 100 shards and seeing my possible rewards but OH NO DEAR without paying you will not het them. Then suddenly the Huyang gal. challange reset, mid of the day?!, and i can complete it agn to get 5 shards and the next day agn to get 5 shards. So ist got to 110/115 shards and can collect the other rewards that got the requirement of owning 110/115 Huyang shards without spending. At the end of this Episode i will have the new char at least at 5*. And i never got the Marquee and 5* before. Okay i payed for it sure but if i would buy chrystals for 20 bucks i would never get enough shards out of the purchase to get the Marquee to 5*. BUT from the point of view of a f2p Player this Update ist crap totaly. And the worse thing overall ist to let the ppl see what they miss if they not spend. Besides of the freakn Bad idea to put the "win the battle" points away from the gal. challange structure. Even with the Pass i did not see to get the same amount of important rewards like Omis at the end if the episode. CG had to work on it and they must to do ot fast or more players will quit!! Never saw so many players quit a game so fast bc of a QoL 😂 Update.
Let's not compare SWGoH to Chess with misinformation about Chess not being updated. One's a mobile game with 5+ game modes while another is just one game that has experienced changes even currently.
As a FTP player, they've made it virtually impossible to progress along GC or the Episode Tracks without buying an episode pass - and that really makes me angry. I'm feeling frustrated and disappointed - I've spent years playing this game, and it's like with this new update they took all the fun out of it for FTP people like me and only catered to their paying customers. Talk about greed!
I hate to bring up the math but it seems that maybe they heard the complaints. So they are updating the math to make this better. Now daily quests account for 79% percent of a level up so now don't your daily episode quest that should put a bit over the 5000 you need to level up (about 5950) so you can get a level up per day supposing you can do the episode quest. Of course they haven't even made that live yet. So that will help but they haven't made it live yet which is frustrating. People are upset now why make them wait for the improved math That said your are still getting daily rewards just you're they used to. But now they added episode points to those daily rewards. Just like that added fleet currency to the daily rewards when they added fleets. All that said I do agree with all the pay stuff being thrown in your face. Sadly that's business being business. Like when they pizza delivery chains decided they will charge your for delivery. And then ask the other chains decided that if that chain can make more money for charging for deliveries we should too. I starting seeing this trend when they started spamming your with ads for bundles in the store. I had seen other games like raid find it so if choose they decided that they needed to jump on the band wagon. Then it was moving the 4 or 5 things we can but from the store with credits down a liner or two in the store so that they can use the first line to show you stuff you have to buy with crystals. It's sucks but you can just ignore it. Just like you probably immediately close those stupid ads that pop up when you launch the game
Episode quest today is complete 5 galactic challenge feats. As a player with no tuskens and free to play, I did 2 feats. I am out 2000 points today and can’t complete the weekly so out another 8000. That makes the math not so right now.
those 2 feats didn't look like they counted for me, so maybe I'll be able to get 2 for Jawas and 2 for whatever is next and then complete this 1 quest in a month or 2
It's as if CG peaked over at MSF and saw what a shitshow it's been with recent changes and thought, "Well if they're doing it, let's make our own shitshow." It's definitely frustrating. I don't think mobile games want to KISS though. Complexity and obfuscation makes it more difficult to use sound judgement. Good video, man. People can say Everything's Fine, and maybe it is for them, but you're not alone in your feelings - it seems like that's what the majority of players on YT and Reddit are feeling as well.
Personally, I like it. I don’t think it’s that complex and makes the daily gameplay slightly more interesting and joined up. But I can see why people would be against the change
Nah this Update sucks. I can't even get my Omicrons anymore. And I depend on those GC'S now they completely ruined it. I don't what anyone says about math or anything. I'm with Nooch2gud on this. KEEP THE GAME SIMPLE!
EA - We need to make more money CG - We found a way to incorporate paywall in to the game. How angry do you want us to make our core player base? EA and CG - Yes.
We have always had gc that require the likes of tuskens or jawas or ewoks etc that isnt anything new I used boba to get momentum feat then just did tier 5 or 6 tuskens and called it a day as i would have when we had a tusken gc before the update
101% and its not just this, they also wreaked the ship meta and made us do that job like grind of a raid. and i still can't see my datacron or datadisk stats easily. it also impacts the rate you get materials. im definitely not able to slice 6 dot mods like i could before. maybe ill get a bunch of materials in a week or 3, but im already feeling the missing GC.
We've got Nooch2Chess before GTA 6 🗣🗣🗣 But seriously though, does this thing happened in the dark era of BF2? If so, CG/EA doesn't learn from previous mistakes for sure...
I got here fully prepared to throw hands based on the title, but no its a good summary of why this update is terrible. The way it is, non-whales can do AT MOST 2 of the GC feats. This week I can do exactly 2 feats, not for all the tiers, but 2 in total. I can do the level 3 huyang on teir 1 and 2. I dont have tuskans, and momentum is basically a secondary "have tuskan" feat. Like the progression is tied to GC in a large way, and if you dont have this weeks team unlocked, you cannot gain any rewards for it. You used to be able to always get at least 1 omi for completing the highest tier battle even if you could do nothing else. Now you straight up get nothing. I dont care if the math works out, its not fun and its a fucking video game is it not?
BLAME NOOCH AND THE OTHER WHALE YOUTBERS WHOSE GREED FOR MONEY HAS MADE US ALL SUFFER CG KNOWS WERE SSTUPI DLAZY AND WEAK WILLED SO THEY UPAY NOOCHH AND THE OTHER TH-camRS TO CONVINCE US TO SPEND MONEY IN HOPES OF BEING LIKE THEM THEN THEY DEFEDN CG AT EVERY TURN NO MATTER WHAT AND NEVER ORGANIZE A BOYCOTT
As a free to play player I feel targeted, just so I get credit for this galactic challenge I spent some energy to unlock the last 2 tuskens and get unlock the leader ability of the Cheitan. I hate the episode quests staring me in the face and I feel like I’m in a crystal drought making me question buying refreshes. I really hope they change the system before the next marquee.
I can only imagine what it'll be like for a brand new player coming to the game. How confused will they be with all of these points the transfer to other points to throttle your rewards that used to be straight forward and simple. Imagine a returning player with the new update, both and new and returning players will be lost. To the returning player rewards will appear to be less until they watch a video and learn about the complexity or what they need to do to ATTEMPT to break even for rewards. If you are displeased with they way CG rolled this out and is handling it, tell CG by keeping your money in your wallet. There is no better way to get them to listen.
I like the change, and I do think the math works out (don't worry I won't try to convince anyone on the math and how it works out anymore lol). That's my opinion. I just find it frustrating that they show so much random crap that's put in front of the paywall. That's the part I hate so much. Because whether or not the change is good or not, whether or not we are losing rewards are not, it shouldn't be this difficult to figure out whether or not we are being robbed in clear daylight. It can't be. That's why I hate it. I think if they just simplified all the paywall crap and FOMO crap so that we can see the update for what it is, we wouldn't be having such a problem. Because people won't have such a bad feel bad feeling when doing basic parts of the game.
Rebel fighters, Tuskans & Jawas in a row, in GC. 1000% CG planned that on purpose. And they wonder why people are hating on them.
So true, I can only get the two quests for using 3 star huyang
Yeah, the only people who believe that this is a good update are the people dumb enough to believe they're getting to level 50 on F2P. I'm Kyber 5, 9 mil GP and I'll be lucky to get to level 25 out of 50. So we're getting MAJORLY HOSED!
they way CG purposely shows the rewards that you can NOT get if you are FTP, is really messed up
They should put ads in the game. That would be amazing. Give you an option to skip but when you skip you have to watch another ad.
Hahahhahahha
They were actually thinking of doing that, they said around a year a go it was a possibility.
@amountaingoat2917 dont forget a "Premium Pass" for it, with it you will dont get any Ad! Only $19,99 per Month. 😅
@@meglobob9217 honestly, lets say anyone that has never spent money on the game gets an ad, when they open it and then every like 30mins in game or after every 10th ingame fight.
More money for CG and they have less incentive for money grabs.
It has double edged sword. If done properly, it will boost revenue and player satisfaction at the same time. I know a game that does it flawlessly.
But a lot of the times, it makes the game much worse. I'm talking about you, unskip-able ads. Either way, i never see any EA games has implemented ad system (unless it's for other EA games, which i remember vaguely, is pretty rare)
I love how Nooch has to keep his cool and make sure he is keeping his language in check
Dad energy
The most recent GC is impossible for F2P players to clear any feats without Tuskens. If CG keeps this up with GC, then the only way you are reasonably getting the same rewards as before without dedicating all your time to the game is by opening your wallet and whaling for CG.
It's not even good for those of us who bought the pass. I'm a 7m gp roster, I bought the pass, and yet I'm totally locked out of both Tusken feats completely, and only can get up to 4* Huyang feats. I feel horrible for f2p, but I want to point out this GC structure is horrible even for those of us with the pass, too! How is it that those of us who DID open our purses, to fund CG's game, specifically to NOT be locked out of GC progress, are ALSO still locked out due to their obscure feats and the Marquee paywall.
I don't think ANY of the feats should be paywalled, and the "win with pass active" is an absolutely horrible and malicious game "feat". With that being said, if they INSIST on paywall feats, then there's NO WAY there should be 2 feats paywalled. They should remove either the win with pass paywall, or the win with marquee paywall. I personally think the Marquee paywall feat is the best to remove, since it would benefit BOTH f2p and p2p players, whereas removing the "win with pass" paywall wouldn't ease the pressure on those of us who did buy the pass but can't do anything with obscure factions like Tuskens and momentum.
Change the marquee feat to a generic skill/ mechanic feat for each GC. In other words, a feat that can be completed by any team or faction, like "win without losing a unit", or " win after 10 crits in a row", etc. That way there, at least one feat every GC is accessible to both f2p and p2p, and they still have their incentive for pass buyers with the "win with pass" feat, even though I think that's so silly.
Totally agree! To me, I appear to be paying $20 just to get the rewards I got before. Definitely not getting the same rewards as before. Thus, people are already wrong.
I think you’re right that CG sees the trend in the game shifting down and they are switching to milking mode while they still have a relatively large player base. The funny thing is this cash grab makes me much less likely to spend money on things like light speed bundles.
I do not care for Huyang as a character, a very odd choice for their first character in the battle pass.
I cannot even do 1 thing on today’s challenge with a 6mil account…. Which means I earn nothing… this has to be the stupidest update ever on a game I have ever seen. Swgoh is nothing more than a pathetic joke at this point.
@@kylenorris7537 I left. Good riddance. Model train time.
The most you can get is 2 of 4 feats if you dont have battle pass and assuming you dont have the new character. So you cant free to play at all anymore. There is a whole section of the game that you can't play unless you cough up 20 bucks
i am baffled at the people defending this update on reddit and youtube. like why? it's just not better than how things were before.
@@timHUUUU the author of the video doesn’t want you to quit.
They demoralized the player base with this one man it's really sad ⚰️
I agree with you Nooch. Not simple. Paywall is a kick in the d*ck.
What really bothers me with GC's is that they have taken a game mode and made it so I cannot play it. Next couple weeks is Tuskens and Jawa's... Two teams that I have never had a reason to invest in at 6.3gp. So I have zero reason to play and enjoy GC anymore. They have tKen this mode away from me.
YES
Yea, I bought the pass, but I totally sympathize with f2p, and also, this isn't good even for those of us with the pass. The marquee paywall is obscene, WAY too expensive for even most spenders to access every time.
Also, if they insist on sticking with this style of the update, then they ABSOLUTELY need to take out all obscure factions and feats from ALL future GCs. I'm 7m gp, and a somewhat heavy whale, but I've only been playing for 13 months, so I don't have Tuskens at all. I have 3 unlocked. Despite buying the pass, I couldn't make ANY progress on 2 entire feats, PLUS I could only achieve up to 4* Huyang feats. What was the point of spending $20 fricken dollars of my husband's and mine hard-earned money, to STILL be locked out of majority of the GC?? I thought the whole point of the pass was to avoid being disadvantaged in the GCs and to gain some extra rewards. But if they keep doing GCs with super obscure factions, then the value from the pass is significantly hindered. I feel scammed, and unless they remove the obscure factions from GC and alter the marquee paywall feats, I doubt I'll buy the pass again. It's a betrayal of BOTH free to play and Pay to Play, and I feel like all the attention is on how Free To Players are being spit on, while noboby is acknowleding how most Pay to Players are being spit on, too!
How many of us spenders, even us whales, buy a 7* Marquee every time? Probably a small percent. I bought a 6* Punishing One, and that was the most I ever spent on a Marquee, despite spending a few thousand dollars overall since joining 13 months ago. This update needs to be adjusted, big time. Change the Marquee paywall feat to a generic skill/ mechanic feat for all GCs, like "win without losing a unit", or "win after 10 crits in a row", so that everyone, f2p and p2p, can make at least some decent progress every GC and not be totally screwed by obscure factions.
Yeah. The current GC I could get literally none of the feats beyond 3* Huyang on tier 1-2 without paying. The rest are inaccessible without a very specific and completely outdated squad. Where before I was doing at least box 8, this would be the equivalent of getting no crates at all. The numbers work out apparently, but it feels bad for sure. With all these missing points, I guess we'll see if f2p is even actually completing the f2p track to get that purported parity with prior rewards.
I couldn't care less if the math says you can complete it. The problem is we have to hope CG doesn't give us galactic challenges that are absolute garbage to complete. Starting with rebel fighters sets the tone for the entire update and that tone is "you're gonna need teams that most f2p don't have upgraded". I'm 12mil gp even i barely have a rebel fighter team, my tuskens and Jawas are g12.
I'll be fine as i spend money on this game, it's not about me though.
For an update touting "one thing we wanted to concentrate on is our f2p players" it's certainly doing a lot of things that screw them over
This change is another nail in swgoh’s coffen: for us f2p players who have been a long time developing our game it slow us down, because we can get less omicrons (3 per week instead of 4), at the same time it helps people who buy the passes to get much more omicrons, in a few months f2p will be in a very bad position.
This update is disgusting
I deleted the app and left my guild yesterday. 9 years, multiple accounts.
:(
@@NOOCH2GUD :)
I wouldnt be suprised if they locked simmable battles behind episode pass+ next
4:05 I’m sitting here thinking “Rock Paper Scissors”
Lol maybe just physical combat
@ Definitely an older and simpler game🤣
Honestly, I can't understand how any logical human being can say that the update of putting "complete the battle" and the marquee crap behind a paywall is a "good update". It's like the government saying that bottled water is better than ever but your tap water is undrinkable now.
Because logically, the math works? It’s a good update because I get more stuff and I get agency over it, at the cost of being reminded that people could pay more to get more.
This is industry standard, and Swgoh Was better than the industry for a while, but water finds its level.
It’s a change, and it viscerally will feel bad for a while. But then two months will go by and things will be the same or better. And you will get used to it, you will know the math works - because it will have worked for you.
The thing that’s worse for the game is all the content creators getting together to collectively make money off rage bait videos. If everyone had made videos lowering the temp of the community by talking about the math, why this change is a positive and yes mentioning the feel bads instead of crying out about the game dying, the community wouldn’t be in such a bad spot.
If you want to talk about greed, look at all the content creators doing what’s best for their bottom line, not for the community.
@TheMegaMTG I'm sorry but I am not going to place the state of the game's blame on the content creators lol... they are usually the driving force for positive change and voicing the opinions of the community on the grandest stage for developers to see when there is clearly an issue worth addressing and also showing them the things we appreciate most and respond most positively towards. The trajectory of the game and state of the game is on the developers. I would say a majority of the player base don't tune in to content creators anyway, so the reason they leave or stay can't be a result of "rage bait"
They said "F2p players will be able to complete the track". They forgot to mention that only f2p players that have 8 year old accounts with all the teams are the ones that will BARELY be able to finish it, without daring to miss one day. It's not their fault, it's ours. Give a round of applause for all of us who bought LSB's after the new update was out. We deserve this treatment from CG because we're only cows for them to milk.
oh boy wait till he sees gc tdy
I got screwed with the galactic conquest and the new episode quest today I can only get 2 feats done in total I am on an account only a month and 3/4 old I have none of these things I still think marquee and episode pass should be added rewards for the high end players that pay. We need more FTP feats like we had
i totally agree this is not a quality of life change to a game, they just made it more annoying.
this upadte also forces you to play every. single. day.
For me who loves the game and plays it religously ofc it's not a problem, but I have a friend who only finds teh time to play it 2 or 3 times a week.
With GC before he'd still get good rewards and progress, but now he will get like 25% of his previous omicrons and infinitly less gear, because he just doesn't have the time for it
Its so clear to me that we're gonna be short, omis, gear and everyone forgets the character shards we used to get with galatic challenges which are needed or convert to shard shop.. its so obvious they took rewards to push F2P or light spenders to buy a pass for 20 quid.
The Math ONLY works if you do everything you can! Normally I would have get one omicron in these tusken challenges… now I get nothing!!! As I logged in I directly logged out again…
You don't need the gc to get that omicron anymore that's the difference. Is that as "fun" maybe not depending on what you deem "fun" since that's subjective but it's actually easier than ever for you to get your rewards and for the 100th time I'll say it, GC feats are nothing new! Some GC's you'll have the teams needed others you won't just like before.
@ I need omicrons and if I can only do t2 with Huyang (because I don’t have tuskens yet) I get nothing… usually I would have gotten 1 because I finished the last tier and maybe the other requirement… so the math DOESN’T WORK FOR ME!
If you don’t do any galactic challenges for the whole month, you will still get 15/16 omis. With the old gc structure, you would’ve gotten 1 omi from this gc. Then assuming you reached box 8 in every other gc, you would be at 15 omis for the month total (maximum). Therefore it does work out the same and you won’t loose out on omis. But I get the frustration.
Great video Nooch! I totally share your point of view. This update drove the greatest player exodus since they introduced the conquest paywall. We taught this game had years to the counter still but we the share amount of players quitting this week the future seems grim for sure.
This update is literally FORCING you to log in EVERY SINGLE DAY into the game and complete the dailies and what not for the rewards. You go onto a vacation? OOPSIE you are losing a lot of rewards and a Marquee - who knows when or if EVEN they will have a rotation later on....
Marquee never go on rotation, they just get put on nodes.
@@osets2117 that stinks so much.... RIP to all the players who were not playing...
@@24zawisza that's how it's always been. And yes to get ahead or even keep up in this game you need to play every day, that's the nature of this type of game
Indeed, i missed out on the adrad marquee bc i had quit for awhile and literally just unlocked him recently. I only blame myself for missing his marquee though and when i wanna farm him he's easily farmable
the people who keep mentiong the math are almost as annoying as cg.
no matter how much math u show to other players, it's still irrelevant to those who don't play that much. galactic challenge was one of d events i get mats and shards but CG is choking those who don't want to spend.
I 100 percent agree with you Nooch, I don't like the update even if I do get the same or more rewards. Glad you brought chess into the video
For those saying the math adds up let me put this a way you may understand if I pay someone an apple to carry a box from there door to the road then after a few months of them getting that apple I say now I want you to take the box 3 miles down the road and I'm gonna still pay you an apple....the math adds up but it doesn't mean it's fair
You're NOT wrong Nooch!
So what if the math works out? Clearly they are after the money. Making those silly goals in galactic challenge and linking it to characters you need to spend money on says everything. We cant decently get omicrons any longer for free
CG and EA staff deserve a Jelly of the Month club Christmas bonus this year!
Dad didnt even mention the Parsecs and Coaxium from the webstore 😂
I did. But i dont really understand that
You mean the literally free 2800 normal energy f2p will get per month from that? Oh yeah that's such a terrible inconvenience for the f2p player 🙄
@@NOOCH2GUDis simple, when you buy from the Web store for mobile (the PC client doesn't have this yet) you get points (coaxium) that go towards a rewards tree. Once you get to a specific level (parsecs) you get rewards for those levels (parsecs).
You can get some points (coaxium) from the free daily box they give out, you will never max out the rewards from the free box, it is just another incentive to spend money. I'm assuming it resets every 28 days.
@@mike.armstrong92 I never said it's an inconvenience lmfao. But it is confusing for sure 💀
@@PacificEgg If you're f2p - you don't really have to worry about the complex parts.
Just go in once a day when you get the free crates, click Kessel Run and get the 100 energy. If you miss it it stays available it looks like for two more days.
The rest of it is honestly a pretty straightforward rewards program but you don't really have to interact with it to get the basic rewards. I hope this helps!
The daily episode quest just popped and it's to do 5 Galactic Challenge feats. After I already did my feats (and used a ton of credits to get 3 of my tuskins to 85 so I scrape a few feats out) so I guess I just miss out on those EPs and the 8000 EPs from completing 7 episode quests this week
You literally don’t? Those quests stick around the whole episode. You didn’t miss anything. You got delayed 48 hours.
@TheMegaMTG what about the weekly worth 8000 EP? Does that stick around?
@@stephendacruz179 if they follow the cadence of every other battlepass game in existence. Yes
@@stephendacruz179 notice there are no timers counting down, these quests UNLOCK one a day and last for the entirety of the episode. The only quest you HAVE to do in 24 hours is the one that releases on the last day
Something needs done about these galactic challenges. This is getting out of hand. I struggle enough between 4 accounts doing gc especially not always having teams. Something needs to be done and us as a community needs to speak up. There a difference of change and forcing something only people who can pay to play don't complain about.
To add, I quit the game years ago over the change to ships. I joined back a couple years ago to pick it back up as I had time, and for hopes of jarjar. All the changes coming back to took some getting used to but overall wasn't awful. I've grown to love the game again however since the gac crunch lady year I've seen nothing but a downhill spiral. Math or not this is the worst change I've seen, I frankly don't care if it's double the rewards the concept of this whole update atrocious and anyone who likes it has some serious issues.
I think the solution is to just not have 4 accounts, that sounds excessive
THEY REFUSE TO BOYCOTT THEY CLOWN ME AND REFUSE TO BOYCOTT SO HONESTLY I AM ENJOYNG WATCHING YOU ALL MAD WHEN I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS CG IS GREEDY AND NEEDS TO BE FORCED TO CHANGE I GET TOLD TO SHUT UP AND HOW CAPITALISM IS GOOD SO WHY YOU CRYING NOW
@osets2117 even on one account, the biggest one I got is at 11 mil and these gc teams ain't up and running for jawas and reble fighters or to beat tier x tuskens. So regardless of one account or four this update absolutely sucks. If you like paying money to play just say so. Or buy everyone else the pass. Say something intellectual instead of "4 accounts seems a little excessive."
@@austin0634 oh I agree with you this update sucks, and I'm right there with you my account is 12mil and I barely have rebel fighters, my tuskens and jawas are both G12 at most. CG knows that most people wouldn't be able to complete these GCs because they want you to freak out and buy their pass just so you don't miss out on your rewards
Even tho it may look bad for free to play players, I still find enjoyment for the game such as collecting some characters and ships. I haven't spent a dime ever since it's early years and I'm still free to play on the present day. Although, I'm a bit disappointed with how many things are paid content, but there are always other ways to enjoy the game without becoming pay to play.
I'll be honest, I still am not a fan of the changes either. They are still catering to whales and have removed accessibility for f2p, especially in GC. All I can do for GC currently is the 3-star marquee for 2 feats. That's it. The rebel fighters I got to 4, but then I forgot to do the 3* Huyang for those too. And their supposed 'fix' that they gave today? All it did was make the paywall reward people more! It did not fix accessibility. The argument will be 'now the math is better.' The fundamental problem is accessibility here. And they have completely crapped the bed.
I'm going to add a reply to this: The next episode quest for f2p is PAY TO WIN!!! 5 GC feat completions for people without the teams to do them means you are relegated to the Marquee feats. How much worse will this get?
I agree, regardless of if the math checks out, it doesnt feel good. Its a crummy manipulation tactic to get more people to buy the pass and invest in the new marquees.
They are giving us ec as an "apology" and restructuring the ec rewards both from daily quests and in gc, but not changing the feats. Dailies are being increased by 50 per quest and they are front loading the ec for gc. T1-5 give more t6 stays the same and t7-10 give less. Personally i think they should revert back to the normal 4 quests and then have the bonus 2 paywall rewards. Theyd have to restructure the ec rewards to keep it where they want it, but it wouldnt feel as bad
So up front I’ll say I don’t like the update. However, I disagree with the “simple rewards are gone.” I see it as I am given the latitude to choose which rewards I need most in my account at any given time.
Agree 100% with the character quests popping up on the screen, needs to go away. It's telling you that you completed a quest, then you go look to claim rewards and realize you can't claim without spending money, just a way they're trying to get you to buy the pass and spend money on marquee shards, they're exploiting that fear of missing out feeling.
did i hear that right?!? nooch2chess?!? we getting chess content in here ;-;!
That would be cool! I'm the great-niece of Bobby Fischer, and everyone on my father's line of my family are chess masters or grandmasters. I won an International Junior Chess Championship when I was an 11 year old girl, and have beaten one of South Korea's champions/ grandmasters 3 games out of 3 when I was 16 and in S. Korea as something akin to a TaeKwon Do "foreign exchange student". I LOVE chess, and would love to see how a Nooch plays! I'll bet he'd find he could be better than he thinks if he was patient with himself and practised. I'm on the Spectrum, and learned to play chess before I started talking (I didn't start speaking till I was almost 5, due to being on the Spectrum, but chess was one of the ways I got comfortable with socializing and interacting with other family members beyond my mom and older sister. It's such a powerful game).
Sorry for the long winded comment, I just was really excited to see the love and respect Nooch showed to a game that my family is famous for!
Im a new player since 2 months.
The update doesnt bother me that much in Sense of the whole character journey. Yes its Bad to be reminded nonstop with the quests ingame but you can ignore that.
BUT what colossaly freaks me out Are the GCs.
Im only at 630k cp but it was fun to try and get a little bit further each GC. I liked it. Now i think its fucked up.
Today tusken came out. I did 2 Level with huyang 3* that Both got oneshot by my rex s3… and thats it.
I cant give Momentum 150 times and i didnt spend on the pass.
This rly destroys my experience. And im a mediocre spender if the Game is good and i Like it. But i always wait half a year or more to See if i Fall in love with it.
all they had to do was add one extra GC crate for spenders. you pay 20 bucks you get the best crate with extra rewards. problem solved. this whole update with all the changes was not needed at all.
Agree on all fronts. I'll be blowing all my f2p 120k crystals on GL Ahsoka, play with her a bit, then I'm outta here. This game is toast
Does this mean a Tuskan and Jawa lightspeed bundles could be coming down the road just for these GCs? Seems like everything except Galactic Legends and Legend type characters will be seeing Lightspeed bundles at some point.
Yuck
The math doesn’t help me when I’m a casual player who doesn’t have the time to revolve my entire schedule for this game. If I miss a day, I’m out of luck. If I can’t log in the game to get the free energies during the timeframe? Well I guess to have to spend more gems than I’m actually rewarded making me lose gems to replenish my energies.
I don’t like how this all feels, but I am giving it the month to see how it plays before grabbing my pitchfork. Good on CG for the update. I am not sure if it would be complicated if we didn’t know the old system. It has created confusion and chaos for certain. IMO it is like so much of the F2P track in SWGOH. A player needs to be patient and let it build over time. It would have been wise to not throw Tuskens and Jawas at us right away.
NO WE NEED TO FORCE A BOYCOTT NOT WAIT AND BE LOSERS
Hey at least you still have a free login calendar. It’s more than lotr home could say for its last couple months.
In the words of Three Days Grace, "Lets Start A Riot!"
The problem with the whole thing is psychologically it feels bad. It doesn't matter that mathematically, you get more rewards. It FEELS bad. I could offer you solid gold bars covered with priceless diamonds on top of a giant stack of crisp new hundred dollar bills inside of a priceless Ferrari and if I do it in a way that makes you feel bad, science says that something like 55% will reject the offer. I expect that this won't get better and that any iteration on it is only going to be tweeking rewards like they've already announced. I would love to be proven wrong, but I don't see them further redesigning things to give back the "Complete the battle" reward just to please non-spenders. So everyone should make their peace with it, or vote with your time and wallet and stop playing.
They claim quality of life by adding sims but adding more things to tap on in their maze of pay walls in game and the web store….probably some study on humans tapping more gets them more addictive. Then the FOMO in your face.
You know what it feels like. When TH-camrs throw 15 ads on a video. Buy TH-cam premium or watch the ads. Makes for a shitty experience.
I agree with you 100%. Who cares about the math. The changes are too complex. 3 independent activities with separate rewards rolled into one time gated track so a $20 pass can be sold to monetize a previously non-monetized set of activities. Hope the P&L looks better after this change.
I do not know what they were thinking with this and the assualt battles. I dont think there is a single person thats happy with the current trajectory of the game.
"Merchant games"
We are not playing until we pay, who cares about the math.
Love you Nooch!! Thanks for the video. Now have a deep deep deep breath and drink some coffee :)
tea please
Criminal what they have done. Latest one is tuskens which means 0 rewards for 99% of free to play players
Nooch, they added another galactic challenge quest in our episode quests. as a 90% f2p player, who is in desperate need of omis, this is enraging. i dont want to quit the game, as starwars is a passion, but every time i see a single promo message or insentive to buy a pass or crystals, a little bit of my will to live dwindles. this, quite frankly is hurting the f2p community like you said, and locks so much more of the game behind a paywall. do you think they did this on the back of the success of conquest? anyway, love your videos, really helpful, and ur gonna be seeing a lot more of me in your comments. much love man. keep it up
I agree with you 100%. I am a mostly free to play player so I will now not be getting any of these galactic challenge done. And on top of it It’s so complicate, so many steps and more work. I hate it.
This update come out and 4 of the main guys in my guild stopped playing ,they really messed up with this update
Except at least some people are not looking at the math correctly from how they break it down. First there is zero reason to complicate something when someone is doing something positive for you. If you've ever worked a cash register for any real length of time you will know about the scam when making change. People will ask for change and in an overly complicated way so that you will mistakenly make change incorrectly and give them more back than they were asked to make change for. The way to avoid this(besides just not making change at all) is to break each part into a different step.
If you take the total math before the rewards it has been said there are already less character shards(several that have done the math said this). It doesn't matter if you(generic and I'm not sure why people get that any more) don't want shards it is an overall loss for people. Then there is the fact that all the math I've seen has been calculating over the month, however the shop is 7 days. It really doesn't matter how much of the new currency you end up with if you miss 1/2/3 shops of rewards or part of rewards. The spacing of the new currency, the break down of what you receive at each node, etc. It is all meant to make it more likely that the average person miss rewards, to be allowed to be convinced it all works out, but to ultimately miss out and to spend. If you buy the pass, get enough of the marquee character each time, or do both then there is no worries.
There is no advantage to this change from a system stand point. The only advantage is to the bottom line for making a sale. This is on top of the AB changes are not positive one for the player experience. They are asking you to make change.
You are right 100% imo. This update really rtook away my will to play.
Actually there are updates to chess; castling, in passing capture and the fifty move rule did not exist 2000 years ago.
Yes. 10 updates in 2000 years.
You guys got me there.
What are the p2w updates?
Regardless of the math, they did add pay walls and ruined Galactic Challenge and didn't not fix any major bug issues and just added more ways to make money. Simple Greed. You weren't wrong to react the way you did Nooch. Anyone who supports the latest updates is naive and will constantly get taking advantage of for their money. It's adorable IMO. Just shows how many sheep play this game.
Based on your title I can say that if you pay for the update stuff then it is great but if your free to play then boo
The other problem I have with it is that if you do not pay to play, it does not feel like you’re playing the game as they intended
So in order to get everything that they offer for free to play, I have to treat this game like a full-time job. I don’t have time for that. Nobody has time for that.
it's so odd to do this during an Anniversary? It's almost like they thought they can sneak it in, it's a very odd ball company, last time I checked anniversaries are meant to CELEBRATE the game you played, not make a whole different game and give long time players a middle finger?
No I love the update! Who doesn’t love taking their relic 5 tuskens into the galactic challenge with their 7* huyang they spent £200 on and their £20 episode pass 🎉🎉🎉
Here is today's episode quest... complete 5 galactic challenges feats..... how? I can't get the completion feat without paying, I dont have tuskens, I dont have any way of gaining momentum, have to pay to get huang shards.... so even the free to play quest makes me have to wait to do this quest, or pay.....you can't make this crap up...
this is why i like nooch and i dont care that you are not top tier player bla bla, watching scrybe suggesting that f2p should invest in marquee crystal chest made me sick and i comment on his sht post vid.
I love scrybe! He didnt suggest that, did he?
Wow. Bespin: Droid. You literally cant get any points unless you run Tuskens........BUT, if you buy the pass or Huyang you can bypass Tusken and still get points
I used to be able to unlock a decent chest playing 1 battle with my best squad regardless if I had the required team. The math ant mathing for time/work 100%. We'll see how far I get on the track as just daily/f2p/sometimes rarely buying something if it's a good deal. Fml is a miss a daily log in
Remove the p2w popups, make all GC feats f2p that used to be. These two changes would go a long way. I actually kind of like choosing what I want in the store, but to each their own.
There are no updates to chess.
I will quote you for sure
I got the Episode Pass, thats 24€ in Europe! not 20 😢, and the good thing is. I never use to buy the new char shards Packs or offers. And, for sure, i never got latest chars to 4*. So now my Huyang ist 4* and close to 5* 😊 when i noticed the tab for rewards was telling me i need 110 shards i was rly made. Sitting 100 shards and seeing my possible rewards but OH NO DEAR without paying you will not het them. Then suddenly the Huyang gal. challange reset, mid of the day?!, and i can complete it agn to get 5 shards and the next day agn to get 5 shards. So ist got to 110/115 shards and can collect the other rewards that got the requirement of owning 110/115 Huyang shards without spending. At the end of this Episode i will have the new char at least at 5*. And i never got the Marquee and 5* before. Okay i payed for it sure but if i would buy chrystals for 20 bucks i would never get enough shards out of the purchase to get the Marquee to 5*. BUT from the point of view of a f2p Player this Update ist crap totaly. And the worse thing overall ist to let the ppl see what they miss if they not spend. Besides of the freakn Bad idea to put the "win the battle" points away from the gal. challange structure. Even with the Pass i did not see to get the same amount of important rewards like Omis at the end if the episode. CG had to work on it and they must to do ot fast or more players will quit!! Never saw so many players quit a game so fast bc of a QoL 😂 Update.
Let's not compare SWGoH to Chess with misinformation about Chess not being updated. One's a mobile game with 5+ game modes while another is just one game that has experienced changes even currently.
As a FTP player, they've made it virtually impossible to progress along GC or the Episode Tracks without buying an episode pass - and that really makes me angry. I'm feeling frustrated and disappointed - I've spent years playing this game, and it's like with this new update they took all the fun out of it for FTP people like me and only catered to their paying customers. Talk about greed!
I hate to bring up the math but it seems that maybe they heard the complaints. So they are updating the math to make this better. Now daily quests account for 79% percent of a level up so now don't your daily episode quest that should put a bit over the 5000 you need to level up (about 5950) so you can get a level up per day supposing you can do the episode quest. Of course they haven't even made that live yet. So that will help but they haven't made it live yet which is frustrating. People are upset now why make them wait for the improved math
That said your are still getting daily rewards just you're they used to. But now they added episode points to those daily rewards. Just like that added fleet currency to the daily rewards when they added fleets.
All that said I do agree with all the pay stuff being thrown in your face. Sadly that's business being business. Like when they pizza delivery chains decided they will charge your for delivery. And then ask the other chains decided that if that chain can make more money for charging for deliveries we should too. I starting seeing this trend when they started spamming your with ads for bundles in the store. I had seen other games like raid find it so if choose they decided that they needed to jump on the band wagon. Then it was moving the 4 or 5 things we can but from the store with credits down a liner or two in the store so that they can use the first line to show you stuff you have to buy with crystals. It's sucks but you can just ignore it. Just like you probably immediately close those stupid ads that pop up when you launch the game
Episode quest today is complete 5 galactic challenge feats. As a player with no tuskens and free to play, I did 2 feats. I am out 2000 points today and can’t complete the weekly so out another 8000. That makes the math not so right now.
those 2 feats didn't look like they counted for me, so maybe I'll be able to get 2 for Jawas and 2 for whatever is next and then complete this 1 quest in a month or 2
16:10 and the wind is blowing back in your face sadly 😢
It's as if CG peaked over at MSF and saw what a shitshow it's been with recent changes and thought, "Well if they're doing it, let's make our own shitshow." It's definitely frustrating. I don't think mobile games want to KISS though. Complexity and obfuscation makes it more difficult to use sound judgement. Good video, man. People can say Everything's Fine, and maybe it is for them, but you're not alone in your feelings - it seems like that's what the majority of players on YT and Reddit are feeling as well.
Personally, I like it. I don’t think it’s that complex and makes the daily gameplay slightly more interesting and joined up. But I can see why people would be against the change
BOOTLICKING LOSER
Nah this Update sucks. I can't even get my Omicrons anymore. And I depend on those GC'S now they completely ruined it. I don't what anyone says about math or anything. I'm with Nooch2gud on this. KEEP THE GAME SIMPLE!
Its a good update it just does nothing for people on the edge of already quiting
BOOTLICKING LOSER
EA - We need to make more money
CG - We found a way to incorporate paywall in to the game. How angry do you want us to make our core player base?
EA and CG - Yes.
Yes Nooch it is. This time it's Tuskens how many f2p players do you have a maxed out tusken team??
We have always had gc that require the likes of tuskens or jawas or ewoks etc that isnt anything new
I used boba to get momentum feat then just did tier 5 or 6 tuskens and called it a day as i would have when we had a tusken gc before the update
101% and its not just this, they also wreaked the ship meta and made us do that job like grind of a raid. and i still can't see my datacron or datadisk stats easily.
it also impacts the rate you get materials. im definitely not able to slice 6 dot mods like i could before. maybe ill get a bunch of materials in a week or 3, but im already feeling the missing GC.
We've got Nooch2Chess before GTA 6 🗣🗣🗣
But seriously though, does this thing happened in the dark era of BF2? If so, CG/EA doesn't learn from previous mistakes for sure...
I got here fully prepared to throw hands based on the title, but no its a good summary of why this update is terrible. The way it is, non-whales can do AT MOST 2 of the GC feats. This week I can do exactly 2 feats, not for all the tiers, but 2 in total. I can do the level 3 huyang on teir 1 and 2. I dont have tuskans, and momentum is basically a secondary "have tuskan" feat. Like the progression is tied to GC in a large way, and if you dont have this weeks team unlocked, you cannot gain any rewards for it. You used to be able to always get at least 1 omi for completing the highest tier battle even if you could do nothing else. Now you straight up get nothing. I dont care if the math works out, its not fun and its a fucking video game is it not?
BLAME NOOCH AND THE OTHER WHALE YOUTBERS WHOSE GREED FOR MONEY HAS MADE US ALL SUFFER CG KNOWS WERE SSTUPI DLAZY AND WEAK WILLED SO THEY UPAY NOOCHH AND THE OTHER TH-camRS TO CONVINCE US TO SPEND MONEY IN HOPES OF BEING LIKE THEM THEN THEY DEFEDN CG AT EVERY TURN NO MATTER WHAT AND NEVER ORGANIZE A BOYCOTT
As a free to play player I feel targeted, just so I get credit for this galactic challenge I spent some energy to unlock the last 2 tuskens and get unlock the leader ability of the Cheitan. I hate the episode quests staring me in the face and I feel like I’m in a crystal drought making me question buying refreshes. I really hope they change the system before the next marquee.
It’s like CG watched Ready Player One and took notes from IO
😂😂😂😂
Epilepsy Ads are next
And the irony is I’ve gotten intrested in spending money and found a decent stride in this game for this to happen
I can only imagine what it'll be like for a brand new player coming to the game.
How confused will they be with all of these points the transfer to other points to throttle your rewards that used to be straight forward and simple.
Imagine a returning player with the new update, both and new and returning players will be lost. To the returning player rewards will appear to be less until they watch a video and learn about the complexity or what they need to do to ATTEMPT to break even for rewards.
If you are displeased with they way CG rolled this out and is handling it, tell CG by keeping your money in your wallet. There is no better way to get them to listen.
I like the change, and I do think the math works out (don't worry I won't try to convince anyone on the math and how it works out anymore lol). That's my opinion. I just find it frustrating that they show so much random crap that's put in front of the paywall. That's the part I hate so much. Because whether or not the change is good or not, whether or not we are losing rewards are not, it shouldn't be this difficult to figure out whether or not we are being robbed in clear daylight. It can't be. That's why I hate it. I think if they just simplified all the paywall crap and FOMO crap so that we can see the update for what it is, we wouldn't be having such a problem. Because people won't have such a bad feel bad feeling when doing basic parts of the game.
Also keep in mind they did make it a little easier with the recent update!
Are galactic challenges now pay to play? Yes. Is the overall economy for F2P now better? Yes.
This is a good take
thing is new players will not know the difference
Yeah but the paywall will be clearly visible from day one
Remember how, when EA tried to put micro transactions and loot crates in Battlefront the entire SW fanbase REVOLTED?
This is the same.
Ngl, all these game modes I can careless about anyways.