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- The Māori fight for justice leads the way on how to reckon with a dark past.
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When the British colonized New Zealand, they left the country’s indigenous Māori population with nearly no land; war and new diseases they introduced to the islands nearly killed off all Māori. Nevertheless, Māori managed to survive - and for decades they protested against the British crown’s pillaging. By the 1970s, the crown could no longer ignore Māori’s mass uprisings rallying for justice; it was forced to respond and established a tribunal to investigate how it violated Māori sovereignty over New Zealand.
Since 1995, the British crown has been engaged in a process of land settlements with Māori - giving the tribes back land and cash, and offering apologies for their historical and modern-day thefts. By putting billions of dollars into this reparations program since the mid-1990s, New Zealand is leading the world with this kind of atonement and redress.
In this special episode of Missing Chapter, Vox reporter Fabiola Cineas traveled across New Zealand to explore how Māori are using the compensation to build a new future for themselves - and to investigate what the US can learn about reparations from their story.
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Vox's companion piece by reporter Fabiola Cineas: www.vox.com/th...
We referenced these maps from Te Puni Kōkiri, the Ministry of Māori Development, to help create a rough map of government-recognized iwi: www.tkm.govt.n... Many iwi borders overlap with others, so in our map we used dots to symbolize iwi instead of exact boundaries.
The Treaty of Waitangi by Claudia Orange was helpful to understanding the treaty’s history, www.google.com...
The Treaty of Waitangi Settlements, edited by Nicola Wheen and Janine Hayward, provided different perspectives to understanding the impact of these settlements www.bwb.co.nz/...
He Tohu, National Library of New Zealand, • Land ownership
The Alexander Turnbull Library Collections at the National Library, natlib.govt.nz...
Te Ara, the Encyclopedia of New Zealand, helped us understand the details of land loss, war, and inequality over time. teara.govt.nz/en
Waitangi Tribunal, waitangitribun...
List of treaty settlements, www.govt.nz/br...
Waikato-Tainui settlement, www.govt.nz/br...
Ngati Maru settlement, www.govt.nz/as...
Museum of New Zealand, www.tepapa.gov...
NZ History, nzhistory.govt...
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Throughout this piece you’ll hear me use the name Aotearoa, the Māori language name for New Zealand. It’s often translated to mean “long white cloud” and is probably a reference to what the area looked like to Polynesian voyagers from the horizon.
Today, there’s a movement for the government to officially change the country’s name to Aotearoa. While we wish we could have gotten more into the intricacies of the Māori language movement in this video - in many ways it’s a continuation of the fight to restore Māori rights that we explore here. -Fabiola
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Living in New Zealand and learning the history is pretty amazing.
I just want to say that I appreciate the use of "Aotearoa" and the effort that was clearly put into pronunciation. A lot of people (and publications) here are pretty vocally opposed to the name and pronounce all the place names in the most anglicised way possible, so it's cool to see people abroad using the name so freely and making an effort to pronounce things correctly.
@Zaydan Alfariz I agree. It also just sounds nicer and like more of an identity.
That’s like saying one native group from New York calls America ‘xyz’ and so it should be renamed that, while ignoring what every other native group from Arizona or Texas etc calls America.
Like that’s no better at all is it (find a name all groups agree to not just from one native group)
Well done on your pronunciation of Māori names. I really enjoyed the documentary.
The fact that she's going above and beyond to say the original Maori words/terms is my favorite part
Might be the best effort ive ever heard, even hit the soft t's
Agreed. Also kudos at pronouncing everything pretty much flawlessly.
You can tell she has put alot of effort in which is awesome to see. Ka Pai
I'm sure she met a lot of Maori people on the trip who'd be happy to coach her pronounication. People are generally happy to help if they believe you have their best interest at heart.
yeah, so woke
As a Māori it’s truely commendable seeing outside interest in our culture, most people don’t bother, even her attempting all of the words and names is a welcomed surprise 😊
I love Māori culture! I'm from the Netherlands but it's so so interesting to me
@@AJGress Polynesians are all related someway or another, from Hawaii to Guam to here and all islands in between
I think the world is really impressed by New Zealand and the respect to Māori culture. I think their doing better than others ex-colonies…
@@djjoshski I've heard that before! I was thinking of buying the book "Sea People" to learn more about the connections between them
The British Empire - great empire, a civilizing force
Knowing that the Māori people were inspired by Black and Native American protests in the US, and have comparatively made more sufficient economic and political gains than the movements that inspired them really makes you think about how effective the US government is at silencing marginalized voices
To provide some perspective, NZ had its first [acting] Māori Prime Minister over a hundred years ago. The US protests appeared to be more about stuff everyone in NZ, including the Māori, already took for granted. In my opinion, the progress in NZ is more about preserving/ restoring the Maori identity, including language and culture.
The USA is like the Roman Empire... whole different beast compared to this small country
Because they have a valid argument for it. Native Americans have a better argument for reparations than African Americans do.
More importantly, why...
Story of Palestinians today.
As a Maori, I really appreciate you making the effort to learn our pronunciations and words. It means more than you know.
I learned about some of the war crimes committed by the Maori's enslavement and murder of the Moriori people 1830-1860, your peaceful neighbors. Reparations, pfft
@@markmakallister4653 relevancy?
Agreed. At the least. it is a courtesy, and it is a beautiful language.
@@mspaint93 Obviously "reparations" implies "group" guilt, based on past "crimes" committed by one people on another. That whole concept is totalitarian, but, here we are and in that way the Māori are murderous slavers who's reign of terror was stopped by the British...no need for reparations or "white guilt". The Māori, as a historical group, were very sadistic in their imperialism.
Can you speak Maori?
As a Kiwi - this an exceptional effort to tell the Maori story. Not a lot of New Zealanders pay as much attention to this. Well done Vox.
@@medit8iv_native970 - nah, I’m literally an endangered brown flightless bird.
I’m glad you took another moment out of your busy day correcting people, to correct another person. Kā pai.
And pretty good pronounciation considering!
Of course they don't....
Maori aren't the original inhabitants of NZ. The Maori arrived on boats & ate the locals to complete extinction, the hori ori / pygmies. Yet British are the barbarians!?..😂
@@Jackson-uk8xx - I see you have listened to the common Kiwi myths spread around at primary school. Read some actual history on the subject, it's not hard to come by in any local library.
Noone actually said the Maori weren't a violent people (many have admired their martial prowess). Maori also didn't invade England and turn the English into second class citizens in their own country. Whether you like it or not, Maori in NZ are still dealing with the echos of that trauma in NZ today. I can understand why some feel somewhat aggrieved by the past.
In reference to British barbarism, see the British colonization of India and tying people to cannons before firing them - hardly a civilized act to be proud of. Google search is wild for this one.
My main point is that it is useful to understand trauma from the past - (even if not your own peoples), you get a new appreciation for the country you live in. It doesn't make me any less proud to be a New Zealander, what is, is what happen. We can only take those lesson forward.
I don't think any culture is free from acts of cruelty or disregard to others - it is not the sole measure of a people - or at least I hope not.
- regards, A descendant of a British colonist.
By no means a perfect relationship, by no means an honourable history. But what we do have is a starting point and a desire to move forward together and a place from where this conversation can begin.
Can't move forward when you dwell on the past
@@Judochop9 There's dwelling and then there's understanding in order to heal. Colonisation stripped Maori of economic stability, identity, community and decimated our numbers through diseases/war. All of which has had long lasting, long reaching effects right up until today.
See thats the thing, they're never happy and always want more, you can't win with entitled people. the reparations is the end point, not the starting point. besides it wasn't them who were even effected in the first place, it was their ancestors, nor was it the current generations fault, it too was the fault of their ancestors.
@@Judochop9 you can. Move on whilst never forgetting the past
@@shadowboxing7029 oh well
As an African (Ugandan) who fell in love with Aotearoa after watching Lord of the Rings and studying Law which drew me to compare Constitutional History of many colonial states.....
The Maōri struggle for sovereignty and identity in a post colonial state is one I deeply empathise with.
Apologies for the misspellings.
The whole idea of a native land is racist. If you went to Germany and an ethnic German came up to you as a recent migrant and told you you didn't belong or it was their land wouldn't that just be racism. How is it different for any other ethnic group trying to do the same, just because their ancestors happened to be their first. Seems a massive double standard.
@@adamirish-yb7rj Historical inequality. The Maori had their land systemically taken under their feet. I as a migrant to Germany are not taking the land from them. British settlers took Maori land and marginalised the original inhabitants. It's hardly the same.
@@adamirish-yb7rj The Germans still own the land in Germany. The Moari's land was stolen by European settlers. It is not the same.
It wasn't stolen by European settlers. Land that was taken was confiscated as punishment for the NZ wars and the breach of the Treaty by king county iwi. Which has now mostly been settled. All the rest of it was freely traded away for a price at the time of purchase. These over simplicity judgement based on how the USA was settled did not happen in NZ and ignore our actual history.
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one super impressed by Fabiola Cineas and commending her for doing the research, homework and learning how to pronounce Māori. Good job Fabiola and thank you Vox for putting together this missing chapter of the Māori story.
Well, to report a one sided story you only really have to do half the work.
@@funtimesatbeaverfallswell, the other half of the story has been offered many a platform and was widely accepted around the world since the 1800s. All I'm saying is it's about hightime the Maori half is given the same attention
Great piece! Growing up in NZ in the 90s/00s, we were taught the Māori language from 6 years old, learned traditional music, dance, mythology, visited a marae… all of this really instilled respect for the culture. But at the same time, we were definitely not given a thorough and accurate history lesson. As was mentioned, the Treaty of Waitangi was held up as a positive and mutual thing.
Wow, what school was this? Mine all failed, the teachers they hired couldn't speak a word. I'm a little jealous honestly
All I learnt was the language and songs
We definitely had everything she mentions: east coast.
Interesting. I went to school in the 2010s and early 2020s and I had the opposite experience.Teaching of Te Reo and Tikanga was ridiculously insufficient. But I feel like I got a really good education in Maori and colonial NZ history in both primary and secondary school.
Growing up in the 00s/10s, my experience was very similar to yours too. Mostly just surface level contents of the Maori culture during primary school that I've forgotten over time, such as mythologies which is a shame.
I remembered being taught the treaty of Waitangi's faults and inaccurate translation between the English and Te reo maori treaties during social studies at high school.
Can I just say that your pronunciation is FANTASTIC 🙌🏼✨ it’s always very refreshing to hear foreigners speak Te Reo Māori so well, it shows you’ve really taken the time to connect with our people
Not fantastic. Partly ok, partly lazy like a pakeha would attempt to phonetically try.
@@mark-ish even if not perfect, it’s nice to hear the effort put in :) especially her vowels and t’s. I’ve seen a lot of American channels put out content about Māori/Aotearoa and butcher those words entirely (the easy ones LOL)
@@astronei It's the "t" and "r" that she's pronouncing correctly. Not the vowels. The vowels, particularly "e" and "o" are off.
@@astronei Nah, she's only getting the 'r' correct, but I have to commend her for the effort
agreeed, most people mispronounce the rs and ed
Epic to see this from Vox and loved how you had the activists and inspiring indigenous leaders sharing their voices. Kiwis are quick to forget how much oppression and racism still exist in Aotearoa today.
Yet what they are preaching is based on racial division philosophy, you don't solve racism by creating more racism. No one/leader can speak or represent me, I speak for myself as I expect everyone else also speak for themselves.
Almost as if it's human nature.....people also forget that racism can be found in all races.
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 go educate yourself e hoa
@@lucaslarraman What a reply! Debate me on your garbage ideologies.
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 lol funny whataboutism ! Thanks we do know racism is exhibited everywhere !
I was born in raised in Canada, and I am white but it would be AMAZING to see similar things done here for indigenous peoples. In my area there is a lot of art made by native peoples everywhere in some attempt of these reparations without any of the compensation or returnal of land
Are you kidding me! Have you not seen the news for the last bunch of decades how many billions and billions and billions of dollars are given to the Inuit or the Native Americans. Justin just doled out another one and a half billion dollars again!
You would think that with all the casinos that have been built that they’d be self-sufficient by now.
Because after all having a casino is part of their heritage right!
How about the guns that are smuggled through the reservations across the border from the states to Canada.
Or the cigarettes that cross the border across the Saint Laurent on a regular basis. Seriously you weren’t aware of any of that.
I'm a Kiwi, and when I visited Squamish I was amazed to see a huge Tainui Maori sculpture in the museum. Apparently Tainui and Squamish are working together to gain rights.
Doesn’t Canada already do a lot for indigenous people? I’m American, so I wouldn’t really know what that looks like
@@rykloog9578 structurally it’s basically the same as the states with reservations that have poor to no drinking water and poor infrastructure and food deserts. With a nice coat of paint of seeming to uplift indigenous voices and support indigenous artists without actually dealing with the issues that affect them
Surely, if you were sincere in wanting to do the right thing, you would leave the land your ancestors invaded and colonised, and look to return to where your ancestors originated or migrate to a land where you are welcomed by the indigenous people.
Vox is the ultimate proof that students at school love to learn about the Geopolitics and history but schools don't know the right way to teach the kids. Literally it would be so cool if you were my teacher 🙏🙏🙏
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People like learning from brief videos that are designed to drive engagement. But these are only surface level introductions to bigger topics. The depth and requirements for a school course are naturally going to be more boring (no fancy editing or soundtrack). And watching a video is passive compared to a history or civics class that demand critical thinking and argument. Watching a 20 minute TH-cam video can start a conversation, but it's not a class
Ask them the details of this video in a month's time or a year. You'll know interested people were.
To be fair, at least tens of hours of work went into making this video (maybe hundreds) , whereas a teacher only has a couple of hours to prepare a class, at best. So this is just gonna be higher quality, no matter the teacher's motivation and understanding
Kia Ora Vox. As a Māori man in New Zealand I thank you for such an in-depth and beautifully presented analysis of our story. Nga mihi ki a koutou! Thank you to you all. And especially for the wonderful job by the presenter to pronounce all the names correctly. This video brought me to tears. Hearing someone else tell our story really puts in perspective what our tipuna (ancestors) and ourselves today have been through. Thank you.
Me, as Ukrainian living through the war protecting our land from imperialist, must say - I cried when the lady was talking about how when you lose your land, you lose your identity 🇺🇦💔 May every nation wroged by empires stay strong and recieve acknowledgment of their hurt 🫂
SLAVA UKRAINE!
Y’all will be ok. Half y’all racist anyway
Kia kaha (stand strong) my Ukrainian friend. The road is long and at times dark but Ukrainian people are strong.
Слава Україні!
You guys will make it through, stay strong! Slava Ukraini!
As a kiwi in NZ, I'm happy to see a person covering Māori-related events and issues at a very sincere level. Just the bare minimum of learning how to properly pronounce Māori language and terms is so pleasing and I'm glad Māori history is getting the recognition it deserves.
They forgot the part about the ram raids. That part of the culture is not getting the recognition it deserves.
Seeing this and what is happening currently to the Māori people is just so wrong. May they get the justice, rights, lands, waterways and humane treatment that they and their ancestors are so deserving of. 🤍
I’m born and raised in Aotearoa and I learnt more about our history here than what I did in school. That is undoubtedly a key source of tensions today, our true history is often sugarcoated or missed all together. Thank you for sharing
I was almost angry I was having our history so well explained by an american 😆
I mean, how old are you? Today it depends on what school you go to but as I am currently a teen, the education system explains all of this history. There's much more that is also explained, like the musket wars and local history (in my case, my old school even got to meet our local iwis multiple times, and learn about protests as they were happening).
Another good thing is the push from students to get professional Te reo Māori teachers. At me old intermediate there was a massive petition, signed by over half the school.
Also yes, the history is sometimes sugar-coated or dumbed down a little in primary schools, but it still gets it correct and tells kids how horrific the entire situation was.
I know there is a good amount of motivation to get teachers educated on this matter, I've seen it happen with my own teachers. Alotof teacher are also trying, all the schools I've been to had a mandatory karakia to start the day, one of them had mandatory kapa haka, and we got māori lessons.
Yes there are still issues, majority of teachers are pākeha. I have only been taught by two māori teacher in my lifetime. But I think it's still changing for the better, it seems like that anyways.
Overall i think it matter what school you go to but guessing by the average age of vox viewers I'm gonna say you went to school a while ago, and I think it's improved since you finished.
I'm glad to report that things have changed now. I am a teen still at school in NZ and we have been learning NZ history since year 10 (that I remember). Weeks were spent on Te Tiriti in year 10, including discussions on the differences between the Te Reo and English versions. We spent about a term in year 11 and 12 each going through major events such as the Land Wars, the march shown in this video and much more, including hours of old footage and documentaries and internal assessments on the topics! This was also taught alongside some American history of the civil war as a connection!
I know it may be different in other schools but I really have appreciated my history lessons.
I learned about some of the war crimes committed by the Maori's enslavement and murder of the Moriori people 1830-1860, your peaceful neighbors. Reparations, pfft
@@molpish. I finished high school 5 years ago - apart te tiriti, we didn’t do much on nz history and I did history all the way through until level 3 - I know they’ve just changed the curriculum so it has to be a part of it which is great but I definitely learned more about colonisation in university than in high school.
I’m glad I’m in the last generation to have to have a university degree to learn about this stuff but even then, it depends which courses you take - I did pols sci but I still unintentionally avoided it until my 3rd year at uni. Having colonisation taught in yr 9 and 10 will be great 😊
Still the British government refuses to formally apologize for the innumerable atrocities committed in the Indian subcontinent
Ka pai! What a great video and amazing pronunciation (see everyone, it's not so hard!). This is the Aotearoa that I see and to have captured it so well in this doc was incredible and I'm excited for Aotearoa to have this sort of international recognition. The fact someone not even from here can consistently call this country Aotearoa instead of New Zealand, and include regular te reo throughout the piece is so amazing to see! It's not uncommon here to see this but there's always some who disagree and don't try, so to have an American putting in the mahi and doing it so well is commendable!
Thank you for telling this story, we're not perfect here but I think we're on the right track and it would be great to see more colonial countries picking up the torch and carrying it's flame. I haven't been since 2020 but apparently Australia has been increasing it's recognition and acknowledgment of Country and it's these small changes that make way for large scale change later. This has been a long fight in Aotearoa but I personally only started seeing small changes like increase in te reo use in media and more Māori-focused stories being told in recent years and it's been great to see. I think we're seeing the beginning of something great to come and getting international media to tell this story to the world is incredible! Kia ora!
youd hope its pronouced right this channel is owned by the top 0.00000001%
You mean calling New Zealand an unofficial, a-historical name that was invented post the naming of the country as New Zealand. Where 65% of the country want to keep the name New Zealand only. Sounds like you despise both democracy and history.
@@wonk9910 ok???
Her pronounciation is not 100% but she's probably better than most Pākehā
Btw Aotearoa isn’t the “correct” name it is just as valid as New Zealand, Aotearoa New Zealand is in my opinion better as it acknowledges the both parties and their culture.
Such a good piece, and I've never heard an American with such good pronunciation in Te Reo. I mean, most pakeha can't do it, so credit to you for putting in the effort, we love to see it.
Pakeha aren't paid to research, write & produce a documentary, hence her effort was ordinary, when she & VOX have resources to make it professional rather than amateurish.
@@mark-ish literally every American ever, whether they've got money for it or not, always butchers Te Reo pronunciation. I don't see anything wrong with giving credit where its due. Also, in New Zealand, pakeha should pronounce properly, its literally the lowest effort possible
@@mark-ish Pakeha do live here mind you so it should be easier to learn and as they do live here they should.
ya and most maori miss pronounce english words
@@1112-g1x you're one to talk, you can't even spell them
"Loosing land takes away culture" is something that strongly resonates with me, as my ancestors have also been forced to flee their lands and some had land stolen from them during the world wars. Granted, this was in Europe and there is no way of tracing this back with the chaos that happened, I still struggle to find a peoples identity.
Also, at 4.03: Maori were never a single nation. The declaration of independence was only signed by Northern iwi, claiming to represent everyone else, and hence is controversial in its own right
Thanks for bringing that to attention. It’s a very important aspect of the issues surrounding the treaty
Ngapuhi sold maori down the drain by hooping In to bed with the crown.
Yes, it is often glossed over for the sake of simplicity.
Us it,then lose it to have our own
Similar to how the Maori party aims to represent "all maori" yet only a fraction of maori support them
As a Māori woman i appreciate this video and your effort to prounonce the words awesome work thank you ❤
As a NZ pakeha (white guy) this did a better job of explaining the struggle of maori than anything I've heard from Aotearoa media.
Trying to separate the toned down version of history, of my older generation, from the modern version, that includes maori voices, is a journey. Nice work (starting with the language!) of expressing the journey so well and helping us non maori people get it a bit better.
Nice job!
You sound racist, it's always about race for racists. People can never be individualists.
Law based on race is a disaster. Time will prove me correct!
My bestfriend is Māori and I love hearing her tell me about her life and culture in New Zealand. I’ve also heard many stories of her being protected by strangers because they could tell she was Māori
Kia ora, I have some nitpicks and there's always more to the story but on the whole I think this is very well done for a twenty-six minute video for an international audience. A disparity between Māori and non-Māori remains and I'm not sure we'll ever completely agree on what the right balance of power and resources is, but the Treaty Settlements have been a good start to rebuilding the relationships between our people because none of us are going anywhere, so we might as well take care of each other.
"our peoples" what a load of nonsense. I'm only me and you are only you. If you walk down the street grouping and classifying people into races the fault lies with you.
@@adamirish-yb7rj shut up
Exactly right. There's never going to be a balance that the Maori accept because the hardliners want the entire nation under Maori control. What these stories always forget is that history isn't neat and polite. Racism was a major part of society. People believed others to be different or below them. Those people were empowered to feel that way because their side was more militarily powerful and therefore could make laws and enforce their will on others. That's simply how history is - a less civilized and refined time, bigger army diplomacy was the name of the game. I don't support any of this in the modern day and, clearly, the majority of people (Maori and non-Maori) don't either. That's how we have evolved as a nation and a people together. If the feeling was still that Maori didn't deserve a place in this world, we'd be experiencing a situation much closer to the Uyghurs in China, than talking about the Treaty or Maori grievances.
Where I take issue however is around a statue of limitations. Where do these reparations end? Because what is conveniently forgotten in arguments is that the reparations are made up of public funds. These funds might be raised through taxes on companies or people, it might be income from SOEs or other interests. But ultimately the money is public funds raised by the democratically elected government of NZ and would otherwise be spent on its communities and infrastructure. But instead, it is spent on reparation structures.
I'm not opposed to some kind of restitution, particularly for those very disadvantaged Maori communities, but its never enough. Public funds in the order of hundreds of millions of dollars are spent and the Tribe will always say "this is a start" or "we expect this forms part of a wider settlement". Where is the justice in all of this money being spent for the rest of the nation? On services and infrastructure we could all use, not just a single minority? When is enough, enough?
This will never end until everyone that is not Maori has left. That is the only outcome that will stop the ongoing protests. It doesn't matter what is paid or what changes are done, it will never be good enough. That's the sad hard truth.
@@dynamo1796 That's some good analysis of the situation, I think if the hardliners have their way people will be leaving in droves. I have almost no relations that are still living in NZ, they all left for Australia.
I am Zambian but went to School in Melbourne. While there I made a few close Māori friends and got to learn more about the people. This documentary is absolutely incredible because it shines light on their history and how the crown disenfranchised the natives in the southern pacific.
Not True!!
@@mrsmith9597it doesn’t work like that
This is amazing. I am Salvadorian by my parents but born in the US… I use to visit my grandparents home and my grandfather had old books of mythology folklores from that region. I got more curious about the original indigenous languages only to discover they are no longer spoken most likely due to Spanish colonialism. To see other indigenous people be able to keep at least part of their heritage alive is truly beautiful, even in the heartbreak of it all. ❤
interesting watch as a filipino. we were notably colonised thrice (spain, USA, japan) yet in only decades have lost all vitriol when it comes to demanding reparations. our own government fails to recognise the war crimes committed against its own people; former president duterte had a statue commemorating comfort women taken down because that issue is "done and over with."
Ive noticed that with filipinos I know, figured it was just like that with American/canadian ones though.
There is a very strong grasp the organized religions have on the people. It is often tied to the system of oppression.
As a Kiwi it absolutely astounds me to hear so many people say they weren’t taught this in school. I genuinely thought we all had heard this a million times.
Right!! I was taught about this and the treaty every year since yr7😭
I'm 65 and learnt almost none of this at school. The narrative was pretty much, that Māori had willingly sold their land and were greedy and ungrateful. It was a massive shock to come back from years living overseas and find out about why Māori were protesting at Takaparawhā/Bastion Point. l started asking questions, then l found out about the 2 versions of the treaty etc etc...
What an honour to have you create a documentary about our beautiful country and the struggles our indigenous peoples endured. Thank you so much for pronouncing the Reo correctly, you did better than most of people living here. May African Americans and Native Americans find peace and justice for the wrongdoings against them.
It's always baffling to me how similar history can be for New Zealand and my motherland...
Same here, where are you from?
I guess as a Maori I would say that on some level we are all people.
However, I would love to know where you are from. I can read your name but that just makes me more interested.
I'm from Poland.
@@julm7744 I knew that someone without any knowledge of oppression in Europe would show up eventually 😆 Look up "Kulturkampf" and then tell me what you think...
@@julm7744 They have many similarities between them.
This is really well done! The perpetuation of the myth of a "peaceful agreement" between Pakeha and Maori has had far-reaching consequences, including the continued confusion of older generations who were taught this false narrative in schools. As someone born in 1997, I've had more exposure to the truth, but for my parents' generation and older, many are still confused about reparations because they were lied to about Aoteraroa's history in school. I hope more information like this video shared is on platforms like this to educate people about the reality of our history, rather than the fairytale we were taught. It's also interesting to hear how this video can be great resource not just for people in Aoteraroa, but also for anyone interested in how other countries are dealing with the aftermath of colonisation. It's clear that we still have a long way to go in terms of reconciliation and reparations, but it's good to see that at least we're taking some steps in the right direction. By learning from other countries and sharing our own experiences, we can all work towards creating more fair and equal societies.
Very salient point, thanks for explaining this.
I was in school in NZ 15 years before you were born and they taught a very honest and enlightened history at that time that considered the full impacts of European colonization for the Māori people. The enlightened approach of modern NZ has resulted in a society that is as blended as any you will ever find.
I (pakeha) was born in 1982 and I grew up with some knowledge it was a very messy "agreement". Schooling wasnt too terrible by the 90's on this topic. As I got older I only got more sympathetic to Maori and the history that disadvantaged them as a people.
This is probably why there is so much push back in the US about "CRT"
Interestingly that narrative is also still present overseas too. Many people say to me - ah New Zealand, you were very good to your indigenous people. I tend to feel uncomfortable even saying we were better. What does better mean when you have systematically robbed, marginalised, and striped the rights of a nation of people all for your own gain? Better still is not good enough and I try my best to set the story straight when people congratulate us
I thought this series is dead... I'm happy with the Missing Chapters series came back again...hope the Darkroom series too...
Same fingers crossed
Man I miss Darkroom series so bad
@@hachi78787 What was/is the "Darkmoon" series about?
land back, always. one of the greatest gifts of my life was building relationships in aotearoa with Māori classmates. the impact of solidarity and refusal in Māori communities was undeniably powerful.
My parents sold their farm and now the land has gone up in value, can I get my family land back to?
@@adamirish-yb7rj troll
@@yeetman4953 the entire idea of land back is a troll
@@dopaminedreams1122 the land was never sold.
@@adamirish-yb7rj our people had our land stolen, can we steal it back too?
I wish there was a video like this about indigenous tribes across Canada
They're given an unbelievable amounts of privilege and benefits.
@@MrSeekerOfPeace it’s very believable actually, considering the horrors the white settlers commited. Also these “benefits” are bandaid solutions that don’t get close to healing the generational trauma white settlers inflicted
@@andrewbrabandt4975 so hunting animals out of season and duty free goods aren't enough? Interesting. I didnt know the past was such an affliction and to be blamed for all the problems society faces.
@@MrSeekerOfPeace hardly. You seem like you are disconnected from First Nations history and what they still deal with today. All good, but I’d hope you’d think differently if you had more information on the state of things.
@@MrSeekerOfPeace all of their land got stolen and never returned and most of their population got brutally murdered and u think getting to hunt more is ,,unbelievable amounts of privilege"?
An interesting tidbit is that in the New Zealand Wars, Māori utilised trench warfare, which reintroduced the idea to the British and is a big reason they ended up using it in WW1.
This is completely untrue.
Trenches were used in the Peninsular War, the Crimean War, Boer War etc. and even in the American Civil War there were great examples of trenches in Plattsburgh and Vicksburg. This myth comes from James Belich; a proven liar and fraud.
Wow. Is there anywhere I can read about this?
@@jamalraslan2642 also interested in learning more!
I wonder where the Germans learned trench warfare from?
Nonsense! Europeans had been using trenches in wars for centuries! Victorian era Brits were no strangers to it and didn't need it "reintroduced".
You should hear about how hawaii was taken and transformed into a tourist spot. It used to support over a million people and now it couldn't support half the population if it had too
i studied in nz for a while and honestly grew to love the country and the people there. and seeing this being covered and educating the masses about what happened in aoteroa is powerful.
before studying in nz i barely knew anything about māori or their culture as it’s buried, until i made a close friend at work who is māori, who told and explained to me the horrific things that the british has done on sacred lands.
even as someone who isn’t a kiwi, i’m so glad to see that their story is being told.
This is insightful! Since working for a Kiwi client for over a decade now, I've only known a few Maori words. It's fascinating how they continuously thrive and ensure their culture survives.
This is an eye opener, specially for those of us who immigrated to NZ.
Everyone immigrated or migrated to New Zealand 🇳🇿 🤔
@@steveatlas3492 He meant migrated recently I guess.
@@steveatlas3492migrated during the last 200 years is what they mean
I learned about some of the war crimes committed by the Maori's enslavement and murder of the Moriori people 1830-1860, their peaceful neighbors. Reparations, pfft, the British ended slavery in NZ, and the rest of the World.
@@fallenangel_899 Setteled
her pronounciation of Māori names is amazing! ka pai!
No it isn't. What is wrong with you?
@@sekhemkare7002 Fabiola butchered many Māori words, despite having a researcher and several other assistants that contributed.
As a Māori person, this video nearly brought me to tears. We don't really get educated on these sorts of things so it's quite emotional every time I discover another thing that people in our culture have struggled with. I mean colonisation is an issue that we've dealth with for centuries now and we've still had to fight for what is ours and what we deserve. Thanks for this video, Vox.
I'm not related to any native peoples, but I cried lots, very touching, I hope justice continues~
We are educated on the treaty and treaty settlements all the time. They are regularly in the news and even part of the general highschool curriculum. Also our Rangatira and Kaumātua should always be teaching this.
@@bremCZ How about learning something that is actually useful like computer programming.
As long as we conveniently forget the largest tribes in NZ that were trying to genocide some of the smaller ones. Thank god for colonisation and civility.
@@funtimesatbeaverfalls Just like how we conveniently forget that the British were trying to completely genocide and control dozens of countries at a time? Thank God for ignorant people trying to cover up their blatant racism by saying it's civil.
That was so perfectly well done. I speak Māori and she was beautiful. What really surprised me was that she used the word 'pākeha' correctly. Not even our own government and media can get that right.
I'm Maori and this is such a good video. This is something that my family has gone through and it's a good thing. I live in Australia and how they treat the Aboriginal people makes me really sad.
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 why or how
@@kiwi3085 think about it, no one wants to revert back to living in caves and making hand paintings all day long, no thanks. Things are a lot better the way they are, nothings perfect.
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 I don't see how them having lower technological advancement makes what happened to them deserved though.
It’s awful. I feel for their people and what they have gone through and it does make me happy that there is at least a path forward in New Zealand
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 what tribes lived in caves
Māori are pioneers for native language revival through Kohanga Reo and TKKM and now for reparations. Cultures around the world will look to Māori a san example of how this can be possible.
Maori were inspired by many other peoples and movements too just saying...
None of what you said is true.
Thank you.
This is the most humanising piece of media on oppressed people I have ever experienced.
Thank you for educating and telling this story. It brought tears,hope,sorrow and perhaps a way to deal with our history.
Thank you, you touched my heart.
Thank you for this video! Māori people have asserted their identity beautifully and are an example to all marginalised communities.
Begging the government for handouts isn't reclaiming an identity
@Zaydan Alfariz yes
@Zaydan Alfariz Why would Malaysian Indians and Chinese need reparations? I think Malaysian Indians and Chinese should get equality (like removing the affirmative action in education and public sectors) with Malays but I don't think they need reparations because they are already doing better economically than Malays. If anyone in Malaysia needs reparations that would be Sabah and Sarawak due to the federal government's neglect of the east.
Pokhraj, the notion they have "reclaimed their identities" is ot only superficial but mostly widely inaccurate. It's mostly limited to those with getting financial handouts.
@Zaydan Alfariz orang asli and other Bornean, sure, but Chinese and Indian in Malaysia are doing quite well-off (and in Chinese case, their communities are doing better than Malay) despite the government oppressing them left and right (well the government knew if they go full Idi Amin or Pol Pot the country economy would collapse).
perhaps its best by making affirmative action along income level instead of racial would help but that require strong, authoritarian power to do a radical reform and keep the country together and even non-bumi politician are not willing to do as they gain nothing from it.
As a native South African, I will say and repeat. We are Maori and Maori are us. Not just culturally but our stories. We can look upon them as a guiding light as they looked upon us and saw their plight when they boycotted the Springboks in the 70's and 80's. People will always try to bend and spin their own narratives, but we forgive but will never forget.
i really enjoyed this video as someone who is half new Zealander its great to see new Zealand covered and its Maori history hopefully we may see more in the future!
Same! All of my mothers side is from new Zealand and I go to see them every few years.
Half? What does that even mean? If you've never lived with us, you are not one of us
@@Vaginaninja I suspect Golden guys is referring to one of their parents coming from New Zealand.
@@AndrewMcColl lol at that point they're just regular white that got a stint living in colonized land. Why are all yt ppl so proud about their colonizing ancestors 🙄
@@Vaginaninja that's a very narrow viewpoint :( as long as they hold personal connections to us and our culture i see no issue with identifying as part "new-zealander"
Ka ngangaro Vox for your awe of what Maaori have achieved...seeing the Waikato river shots and people reminded me of the unifying saying, "He piko, he taniwha". I hope everyone will support the Water Services legislation, like Timi Maipi says in this little doco, the reparations are a drop in the bucket... this upcoming law is another way to repair things (and it makes economic and ecological sense).
This doco has great visuals for me and my Year 9 Social Studies classes next year with a necessary reverence of the many people who protested and instigated change in my own lifetime. It's about 25% Tongan students at school so they'll recognise the footage of QEII hanging with her mate, the wonderful Queen Sālote Tupou III. I'd probably swap out that B&W footage for something to show the hard hard work done before my lifetime, maybe a clip of Te Puea? Ngaa mihi manahau
Finding this now with the Treaty's Principles bill that's going on. Thank you, Vox, this was very educational.
Colonization is colonization, no matter where it occurs. This report gave me a thought: that “reparations” (which effectively means “repairs”) is, perhaps, too kind a word. Will reparations in the US, for example, repair the damage? “Settlement” is, perhaps, a better word because it is agreed to by both sides. It may not come close to repairing the damage, but it’s a place to start. Lots to consider for post-colonial repair negotiations.
How about thankyou to the white man for the modern world and relative peace and security.
@@funtimesatbeaverfalls I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic, but I hope you are. I’m learning to invoke Titus 3:9 for certain responses, but I have to say that none of the so-called “modern world” was possible without the brutality against nonwhite people. Also, I haven’t seen much peace and security.
I believe we would have achieved much better peace, security, progress, and prosperity if the brutality of slavery and colonialism never happened.
Today people are going to protest against the government who want to go back on the treaty. Today our people will rise around the country holding strong against this racist government we will not be suppressed, we will raise our voices and be heard far and wide
As a pakeha kiwi I will stand with you
The difference between New Zealand/Aotearoa and their success is due to the size of their land compared to places like Australia, Canada, USA etc.
This means that the original inhabitants (the Maori) share much more similar culturally compared to the First Nations from Canada (many differences from East to West coast).
The Maori are able to unite easier due to less diverging cultural practices and languages.
This is an interesting point. It makes it easier for the indigenous people to agree and easier for the oppressor to make an agreement. It's the whole divide and conquer thing. Harder to divide equals harder to conquer.
And even then….
Does mean reparations still can’t happen
I mean, they used to regularly fight wars and enslave one another along tribal lines before colonisation, so I wouldn't say they were united.
As a Maori I am very familiar with the concept of the "Iwi of one". For a small country we are often very dividend and often trying to kneecap each other for personal, family or tribal advantage.
I think there are many factors which helped New Zealand be as good as it is, which is by no means perfect.
- We were colonized late compared to other places.
- other than good farm land there aren't a lot of resources to extract so settlers came to live and farm.
- Maori, while stone age, had a highly sophisticated social system so could understand English people
- Maori and Pakeha find each other attractive. I come from a mixed race family and this has always been the norm. Intermarriage is a good basis for a society that doesn't get to bad.
America is large but the federal structure gives a lot of space to do things at a smaller scale.
New Zealand is small but we can't do that here because we are big is a bit weak.
Dispossession is not only historical in this country. Twenty five per cent of the population right now own no property.
For "property" read "land."
''God is one off them.
This was a great video. As an Australian who recognises the great, and very similar, injustices done to our aboriginal tribes, it would be wonderful to see a similar video produced on what happened in Australia.
Mate, if you think the injustices in Australia were 'very similar', you have a bit of an education ahead of you.
@@davidsteed7278 I know it was quite bad in Australia. I used “similar” as a simple catch all for the whole genocide and wiping out of culture etc
@@davidsteed7278 Can you please elaborate
Awesome work on the video - especially for a foreign company to do their research and put out a well-informed piece. Kā pai.
As a Kiwi It's awesome to see Māori representation, especially on a big channel like Vox. Great video and nice pronunciation! It's hard to watch and listen to the pain inflicted on the Māori people, but its so necessary to look back so we can remember those who died, and also so we can grow. I pray for Aotearoa and hope that someday the Māori will have their beautiful country back fully. Love and peace to all! 🥰🤙
Hawaii has the exact same history. Like scarily similar. You should do them next !
The Maoli and the Maori! Same word same people same atrocities. Also Ainu and Aluets and sub Saharan Mauri…also the woman of these nations had chin tattoos and are all related anatomically via rocker jaw. And Rua Kenana was an Israelite who got a pardon but otherwise ignored in his claims. Maori legends vary minutely and contrary to modern narratives.
Its funny we all have the same problem in common 😅
Duh cos we’re cousins
@@FlameAlchemyIO wasn’t expecting someone to mention the ainu people, nice
Wow! Congratulations for this video. It tells it straight and as well at least as any New Zealand doco has done and way better than anyone else (including some British attempts)
Even your pronunciation of Maori was the best I've heard from a foreigner and better than many Pakeha. As a retired teacher who loved to teach New Zealand History I wish I'd had this at my disposal during those years. The present government has forced a complete rewrite of our history curriculum to tell it straight too.
I'm proud of what New Zealand - Aotearoa has achieved thus far but I know it is just a start. However a good start I believe and some benefits to Maori are showing. Kia kaha e hine.
Really appreciate Vox for willing to commit resources to do these long-form reporting.
Not least because it is expensive to send a reporter + camera crew across the Pacific Ocean. But to do it in a considerate manner of letting a Black Woman lead the narrative. This is worthwhile investment for journalism - on a par with NYT.
Keep up the good work!
And there in lies the problem, foreigners with a one sided view of history telling me about my history when I have spent years studying it. Best to let locals tell the story.
Imagine that African Americans make some headway on reparations inspired by the Māori's work, the Māori who's land march was inspired by American civil rights movement. A full circle of support and connection while being an ocean apart
Your neat alright lady it's very commendable to see you speaking te reo maori with such ease. Thank you for showing an important history of Aotearoa and the struggles our ancestors have been through. Much love to the reporter and Vox and everyone who has been involved in this video. Thank you.
As much as I support reparations, cash and land settlements are, as the gentleman said, peanuts.
These is no trade price for genocide. You cannot put a price on it and hope the survivors are satisfied, and I hope that what these Maōri are rewarded blossoms through their generations.
American reparations need to start from the ground up for our society to make sure no one is set up for that kind of vulnerability. The things that keep people trapped in cycles of poverty, crime, drug abuse, racism, all need to be addressed. That means universal free healthcare. That means ending the war on drugs. That means getting religion out of schools, getting southern revisionism out of textbooks. Prison reform. Police reform. Abolishment of predatory financial institutions, of our current credit score system. Auditing of institutions that redline and blacklist people.
UBI, child care programs, I really could go on.
But cash payments by themselves would just not be enough.
Tino Pai To Mahi! Great Job! Appreciate The Thought And Time You Spent On Research Of This Topic That Affects Us Still & Your Pronounciation of Our Reo😊
Great Video Vox, but please note that the British Crown is distinct from the New Zealand crown. We share the same monarch, but the Crown here refers to the institutions of the state-ministries, agencies etc. So it is the NZ crown and the British monarchy that have recognised their responsibility to Maori
I have to disagree with you - our crown is the same as the British crown. Our crown agencies and ministers are representatives of the Queen and serve at her pleasure - they are the same entity, they cannot be separated.
Nga mihi nui
@@cheekyb71 legally they are different crowns though. The King of New Zealand is legally a different person than the King of the United Kingdom and the Crowns are different legal entities. The atrocities were committed by the British Crown but the modern day stuff is all the New Zealand crown
I recall a newspaper article that suggested that becoming a republic and ceasing to recognize the King of the UK as head of state would amount to a constitutional reset for New Zealand, under which it is not certain that the Treaty of Waitangi and Maori people would continue to have as much of a special place in government as they do now.
@@yosefcoleman how were hey commited by the British crown? We were a ceremonial monarch then s surely it was the settlers and he British goverment that did
Benjamin is correct. The "British Crown" is not paying the settlements. In Commonwealth countries, the "Crown" refers to the state. In this case, the NZ Government. Neither Britain nor the Monarchy has paid a single cent towards treaty settlements.
As a Kiwi. I am so glad you can pronounce Māori really good for being an American or non New Zealander
I am a white New Zealander, I am glad my country has done as much as it has for the Maori people, but there is still much to be improved.
Ka pū te ruha, ka hao te rangatahi.
Amazing to see you pronounce te reo pretty accurately!! A lot of North Americans have trouble with the vowel sounds but you were really good. So cool to see you’re exposing the rest of the world to our bicultural country 😊 thank you!!!
Her vowels were off though. Particularly "e" and "o" but sometimes even the "a"s.
@themaidofmiddleearth Yeah, and I appreciate it, but it's just not as good as many of the comments are claiming.
NZ history is not taught in our own schools, this is the type of digestable education that is so valuable. Thank you for your mahi
What kind of school did you go to to not get taught this? We literally got the same story shoved down our throats every Waitangi Day through my education.
Excellent documentary. You looked at it unflinching, something many of my pakeha family like to conveniently ignore. And I hope the Black and Native American people who watch this are inspired. May I also say, the young lady who narrated this has excellent pronunciation of te reo Maori. I want to point my relatives who say they struggle with pronunciation to this and say, "If this American can do it, so can you!" Ka pai.
Wow. I’m so moved by the respect gone into the history and research. As an Australian, I hope the same will be done for Aboriginal people here and reparations will improve for all native peoples around the world moving forward.
Thank you so much for making this Vox! Reparations are possible.
Your pronunciation was so beautiful, this was so well put together
9:26 btw this is Queen Salote of Tonga. She isn’t Māori. But thank you for recognising our country and it’s people.
Yeah, shouldn’t be surprised Vox would make that mistake. Their analysis of any topic involving monarchies, British or otherwise, is often chock full of inaccuracies
I was just gonna say that too 😂
respect for the pronounciation. the amount of people here in nz that don't even want to try is baffling
Wow!! I'm from Australia and I've never seen such great coverage of this topic! Thank you!
Thank you so much for shedding light on the work being done over here in Aotearoa! Your pronunciations of the word is so fantastic too, you should be very proud of yourself! We genuinely really appreciate your interest and work in shedding light on this subject. Thank you for sharing our history and new ways of building up our people with the rest of the world
Thanks for this doco on the Treaty of Waitangi settlement process. Thanks for covering the differences between the English and Maori versions of the Treaty. Just a correction. Crown in New Zealand refers to the New Zealand Government and not the British Crown. The British Monarch may be our head of state but most of the everyday decision making is done by elected representatives from the NZ House of Representatives. The Governor-General represents the British Monarch in NZ.
The Governor-General also is the one who signs the laws made by parliament into law. So at the end of the day, the British Crown gets the final say. Actual Kiwi here!
@@moiscotv Technically it is the New Zealand Crown. With the Governor-General representing the King of New Zealand.
@@579simon Actually good point. King Charles is the King of New Zealand too. It's really all semantics at that point but technically true.
Still missing a few details. The Governor-General does not represent the monarch of Great Britain, they represent the monarch of New Zealand. The representative of the British crown in New Zealand is the British High Commissioner to New Zealand (and also the Governor of the Pitcarin Islands), Iona Thomas
@@Edmonton-of2ec Yep.
The nuance is that State and Royalty are not the same. The New Zealand State is "Ruled" by The New Zealand Crown which just so happens to be held by the British Monarch, not because the Monarch is British. The British Government no longer has any authority over New Zealand, Crown and State are two separate entities. The idea of nationhood like we see it now is very different from how the crown exists.
I was part of that land march in 1975 from Porirua to Wellington with my parents it was a pivotal time for Aotearoa, I will never forget the aroha during that march as a small child.
I've never thought I would see a video about new zealand, I'm so happy as a kiwi
there are LOTS of videos about Aotearoa/New Zealand on youtube - you can be a very happy kiwi over xmas break 🙃
@@juliaconnell but not that many on Vox's channel. At least not entirely about Aotearoa.
@@AndrewMcColl so look elsewhere. 🤦♂️
@@mark-ish I not the one looking, I was just clarifying the original comment for Julia.
An amazing piece. Bravo. As echoed by other comments, the detail with how she pronounced te reo was a delight to see.
The fact that the Royal Family recognized their wrongdoings and paying the Maori (even just a little bit) while France literally made Haiti pay for their own revolution and independence is so....
Still shocks me today when Tainui offered to help the Ngā puhi tribunal in negotiating with the crown for settlements and the "leaders" rejected it. These old heads would rather fight amongst themselves instead of investing in the future of the next generation. Honestly just gonna have to wait for them to pass on and the next generation take over for there to be any further movement.
jordy- ''' keep all expectations below zero on that one.'''
"...We want the whole car" That part
Māori are lucky to get what they have now, considering how brutal humanity is & not get eviscerated like the Māori did with the Moriori, killing them off.
I felt that part.And he's right.Give them back everything is the only way to make amends
@@mark-ish You know the Moriori are still around, aye? Also I don't see how that's a justification for the treatment the Māori received from the British, especially when it was the British that caused the Musket Wars in the first place and sowed division specifically to claim as much land as they did.
In South Africa the Khoisan has lost everything. We are now called coloureds and we dont know what our history really was. All our rich history was stolen
I absolutely LOVE the Maori people. 💜
I get so emotional when I see or hear a Haka. ✌️🇨🇦
Watching this made me cry. Thank you for showcasing many Māori voices and showing how difficult it is to both fight for reparations and to process the complex feelings about how inadequate they are. Watching the official apology ceremony was inspirational and deeply sad. It is beautiful to see that many people in Aotearoa are trying to find a way forward. It is painful, imperfect work, but it seems to be making an impact on the dignity and life trajectories of Māori. It makes me hopeful that we can find some kind of a path of healing for my own United States.
Shoutout to this Black American sister educating the people. It’s us to the world. ❤
oh my god, this has got to be the best pronouncing from a non kiwi i have ever heard, great job on this video!!!
Good wasn’t it
Inspirational to all native peoples in the who were dispossessed of their land by the colonizers
The Maori SOLD their land to get European goods.
I want this to happen in America so so bad. For all indigenous and black people, and special efforts for the tribes that walked the trail of tears for when it starts.
I am simply speechless! What a phenomenal work! Congrats, Vox!
The thing that absolutely pains me is the fact that when say for example a new outlet uses Aotearoa in their caption there will be hundreds of boomers in the comment saying how it's wrong, "its new Zealand" and "oh hope they're coming to New Zealand, never heard of this place called Aotearoa" . that's the kind of things they say. There are plenty of people who love it, unfortunately, a few struggle to accept our language luckily it would seem that the younger generations are the ones supporting it.
I prefer Aotearoa easily. It's a unique name, not derivative of an Island in Holland. Also its just weird to call our country "Country 2.0".
@@caad5258 yeah, I like both. I guess it kind of represents how we have two sides to the country. If I had to choose id chose Aotearoa
@@caad5258 Not at all, there's dozens of places and countries called New Something. Completely normal.
@@TomorrowWeLive while this is not a country, an example would be "New York"
Thanks for teaching me the real name of those islands. *Aotearoa* Such a beautiful name. I will use it from now.
I'm very pleasantly surprised to see Aotearoa covered. Kia kaha
Redress has been pitiful a mere 2% of all confiscated land yet many British New Zealanders call it a gravy train.