Finally a quality video that actually describes how to fix something on my Nissan. Thank you, even if my noise isnt from my timing chain i found this useful and interesting.
Had the same problem. Husband fixed it replacing all 3 chains and all the internal parts with his dad and took them well over 4 days total cost around $600. You have to be real careful to make sure the seal around the timing chain case and oil pan is perfect or it will leak oil because its a liquid seal and you have to make sure the bead is perfect and you dont rub off the bead trying to get the timing chain cover back into a tight spot. The biggest part of this job is removing everything thats in the way around and under the timing chain case including the entire top of the engine
You need to remove the upper intake manifold and both valve covers. Only thing left is the intake manifold and cylinder heads so pretty close.@@ramblingrebel6811
My Nissan Titan has roughly 310,000 miles and still running strong as normal. I change my own oils and use synthetic. I also add a little marvel mystery oil in the crankcase every other oil change. Haven't had any issues whatsoever.
It is not only the miles, but also the time. If they went over 6 months before an oil change, this can cause the problem. The real reason is the oil was not changed properly via time or mileage. Hope you changed the water pump at the same time.
Thanks for the video man. I have a 05 SE-R and I felt the noise at start up was something to do with timing guide or a chain. 120k and it's already like that. Also, if you have any videos over the CVT auto transmission that would help a lot or if you know anything about them?
My 02' Nissan Altima 3.5L SE seems to be making the same rattle. This is a great video,though I do wish you'd shown the procedure of taking that all apart & getting inside the engine as you had. Seems that is the most difficult part & I want to be sure, of what I need to perform it & procedure.
I own 3 Nissan Maxima's. At 178k,251k and 194k, Maintenance is key.I bought the one with 251k, replaced the Chain,gears etc., due to LACK OF OWNER MAINTENANCE. This is the ONLY thing you must do. These are INCREDIBLE Engines, just absolute Lousy owners. I also own a Acura TL, Good car, just a daily driver.
Great video. my '02 Sentra is doing this right now. Was the tensioner the only part you had to replace or was the chain and other things replaced aswell? thanks for the video
If you are digging that deep into the engine everything ought to be replaced. Wear and tear on the sprockets and chain guides is easy to see, the chain itself can be a bit more difficult to assess. Best to just do it all, especially on a Sentra where all of these parts are fairly cheap. Replace the hydraulic tensioner as well.
Hi, I have a 2005 Nissan Quest and it’s making a Loud rattling noise and also shakes on the side where the motor is ....can you give me a few notes please on what I need to do?
Great video. Have a question. We have a 2005 Altima v6 with 73k miles that also has noise coming from the timing chain. I used a screwdriver with my ear to the handle and it sounds like the noise may be coming from the upper guide instead of the tensioner guide although I have not taken the cover off to verify it's the exact same issue as this one. It sounds similar. Since the chain is supposed to last over 100k miles, can I change just the tensioner and the 3 guides without removing the chain? Or does the chain have to come off in order to change the guides and tensioner?
You could replace just the guides and tensioner if you want. The chain on this engine seemed perfectly fine but it was replaced because by the time you get in there you might as well do it all. Usually all the parts come in the kit anyway. Having said that, the secondary chains that go between the cams and their associated tensioners require more time and effort to get to, but some may choose to leave them alone. Ideally you should do everything behind the cover, but ultimately it's up to you, and I think you could probably get away with just doing the guides and tensioner if you really wanted too.
my Nissan Maxima 1997 turns on but it won't drive when I switch gears it makes a harsh noise when I placed it back to park...is the transmission bad or is it a sensor please help
Mine is an 02 with 213,000 on it and upon start up after it has been sitting a while(usually overnight) i hear this "rattle" that lasts like one second then goes away. It's been doing that for a while now and hasn't gotten worse. Would changing the tensioner fix this?
i have a 2010 nissan frontier le and the muffler has holes in the bottom. i sometime here a rattling sound from muffler. would the holes cause the sound
thank you for the video pointing to the problem but i wished you had a video how to take the guide off or at least point to what needs to be done i have been looking for that video or forum but to no avail.
Does the engine still wynd and the cam still spin if theres a problem with the chain, started it up cranking ova but not starting opened up oil cams still turning, is that still the problem though, cheers for any help.
In your opinion, is it absolutely necessary to remove the upper oil pan. I've seen other videos on this job, and there is no mention of removing it. I know the Nissan shop manual states to remove it, but I'm hoping to bypass that step. My concern is the seal at the bottom of the timing chain cover since the upper oil pan would be already in place. I plan to do a dry fit to see how it will go.
I removed the upper oil pan because it was leaking from the gasket on the transmission side. With the upper pan out it is easier to assure that the lower part of the timing chain cover will seal when you put it back. However, you don't need to remove it if you don't want too, and you can put the cover back on and have things seal up nicely.
I am hearing a ticking / knocking noise from this area. It sounds almost like frayed serpentine belt hitting something or a playing card hitting a bicycle tire. Could it be related to any timing components? What kind of noise would a faulty timing component make? I thought it could be lifters, but I used a stethoscope and it's clearly louder under the timing cover. I hear it more distinctly at idle, although intermittently off and on. Especially after coming back from a highway drive. It's a 2007-2012 4 cylinder
To whom it may concern: I have a 2004 Nissan quest 3.5 L engine and recently the timing chain was changed when I got the car back I was getting a code P0305, I installed new spark plugs you coils and new injectors, and I also check compression which was excellent any ideas as to why I'm getting this code? Is it possible that the timing chain can be off one tooth?
If you are off even one degree you’ll know it,back fires&shakes engine& sounds awful,likely just needs code cleared,try disconnecting - term on battery for 5 minutes,if that fails need a good scanner to clear.,
have this problem on my 2004 Lincoln aviator it rattles on the start for a brief 4 seconds which I know is the tensioner but while it's running either parked or on natural it will be a clicking noise exactly like the one on this video but not that bad but goes away when I accelerate. What can be the clicking noise? I know it's coming from the timing chain area
So did the owner of the car say what kind of oil they use something they told you made you assume it wasn't synthetic right just asking I buy synthetic just wonder if it's worth it
I have a 2004 Nissan Quest with 134k miles and I have never had this timing chain problem. Do you think I may have this problem in future? At what mileage does this problem occurs of these vans?
HEY , MY TENSIONERS WERE CHANGED TWICE NOW, EVERY TIME THE COLD START UP SLACK SOUND FROM THE CHAIN GOES AWAY LIKE FOR 4 DAYS AND COME BACK, THE FIRST TENSIONERS THAT WERE CHANGED HAVE VERY LITTLE MARKS OF THE TIMING CHAIN, WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE,??? I HAVE A PERFECTLY CLEAN AND HEALTHY ENGINE AND CLEAN OIL, BUT THE SOUND DRIVES ME NUTS. COULD THE PHASER BE MAKING THE SOUND AT START UP???
fireblade639 My 2002 Nissan Maxima was making this noise. I replaced the front left catalytic converter in which the clicking noise on the left side stopped. There's still a clicking on the right side of the car so I plan on replacing the timing chain to see if that addresses the noise. The Nissan service department alleges that both of my cats were performing at an inefficient level. When I got the repairs done for the cat, my mechanic (including a second opinion) confirmed that only one cat came up on the diagnostic code. I'm hoping that reolacimg the timing chain will resolve the clicking noise however; I may not be totally convinced that the radiator side doesn't need to be replaced as well. Just providing you with something to consider.
That's most definitely a timing chain mine's make a ticking sound I know it's not timing chain mine is probably lifters so this video helped me I thought mine was a timing chain thank God it wasn't
My timing chain on my '02 Maxima made a louder than usual rattling noise on startup this morning. It's always made a racket when it's first started in the morning, but today was louder. I hope this "fun" job is not in my future!
Well, 2 years later and the engine and chain are still doing just fine. I did recently replace the valve cover gaskets myself and the area under the valve covers look like a new car at 165k miles. I really do think the only VQ's that have timing chain issues are because of people stretching out the oil changes too far. I've always changed mine at 5k miles, but my car burns a quart every 1000 miles so even after 5k the oil has been refreshed pretty well. If it didn't burn oil I'd go with 3,500 mile OCI's on this car on dino oil or 5k OCI's on synthetic.
Question folks! Does anyone know what gaskets or seals are under the upper oil pan? I have to tackle noisy chains but could not find any info on the gaskets. Does the upper pan use liquid gasket?
Hello to all of you! question, i am not a mechanic but i know how to play with tools - if i follow your instructions do you think i can do this alone?. i have all the necessary tools, the mechanic wants to charge a lot and i don't have the money to pay. please advise.
This vehicle is not mine, the owner swears they change the oil every 4 or 5 k miles which should be fine but who knows what kind of oil they are using. The sludge buildup in this motor is extreme. Joseph Moran: if it is just making noise at start up it could just be the tensioner, but this engine only made the noise at start up for the first little bit before it got much worse. Here is the video showing some of the sludge buildup found in this motor. Engine Sludge
wwccauto Mine did not have that much sludge. Its likely they used the wrong oil because a nissan is very specific on what kind of oil to use. On top of that makes me wonder if they had any cooling system issues because poor performing cooling systems cause more sludge to form.
yes, people say a lot of things when it comes to oil changes.. they always say " i had it done recently"... when you ask 5x then they admit that the last recently was 2 or 3 years ago... bad/wrong oil and too little oil changes play a big role when it comes to chain or tensioner issues...chains need clean and good oil and they`re also quite hard on the oil, too (shearing)
How will I know if I have a timing chain or timing belt for 2006 Nissan Sentra? I lifted the hood and saw a timing belt but not a chain. When I called to price an AC belt and timing belt, the guy said you should have a chain, not belt. I clearly hear the noise of the belt and I felt it and it feels like it's warn and cracking. Any suggestions/advice? Thanks👍🏼
Rhonda Hill your timing chain incsed in a metal cover& is lubercated with oil,if you don’t know that then you better not try changing it,it’s a lot of work& I recommend you buy a manuel& read it first!good luck if you mess up the timing while doing it!
Took the timing cover off and fixed the tensioner. When I put it all back together it apparently jumped timing. Now it's out time. Both cams are sitting at 2 o'clock. Ugh. With an interference engine how the heck to you fix it without taken the top of the engine apart? Turning the crank doesn't work because the cams don't line up at all.
stumpmtsr now it gets complicated,get a manual to find out how many degrees off top dead center to set it,,you have to find out which cylinder is #1,pull the spark plug on #1&put a long screw driver in the hole,with a breaker bar rotate the engine(turning the crank shaft clockwise till the piston pushes the screw driver all the way up)that puts #1 cylinder at top dead center.now rotate further to degree book shows for your engine(both lifters should be level&valves closed when top dead canter)when putting on the chain expect a little kick back,so recheck degree mark after installed,repeat if gear moved off mark when you check till you have degree(4 to 8 degrees off top dead center.you better get a good Manuel,hayes preferred) this happens to be common problem because the kick back off sets the degree mark.live&learn,good luck
wwccauto......I just rebuilt my 08 Nissan Sentra and it started right up no problem after assembly but it seems to have the same noise as in your video....im not very experienced .....the chain looked good so I didn't change it nor the guides....it seems the noise is from the valves like a diesel engine.....I don't know what it would be.....help....thanks,
SuperScareface1 noise travels through metal,hard to locate,might try 5oz of sea spray in oil& one can of sea spray in intake first to clean oil ports to head&lifters first.
Yeah they changed the oil every 4000 miles, they probably didn't mention that they idled the engine for hours a day. I change the oil in my car every 10-12k miles and there is zero sludge. The difference is my commute is 40 miles one way and i dont sit and idle. I dont use drive throughs.
I have this issue with my Infiniti g35. When I drive it on the highway at high speed and release the gas pedal I hear the timing chain making a loud noise spinning
@@sblagg527 not sure if they do have self adjusting lifters. I took it to the infiniti dealership that's what they told me. It's a common problem with the G35.
You agree that Nissan engines are unecessarily complicated and time consuming to repair. When something goes wrong, mechanic needs to remove so many parts to fix the problem ?
My Nissan murano is making a similar noise. But it only happens when its gear and accelerating the gas pedal. The car does not have to be in motion only in gear and be given gas . Would it be the tensioner or timing chain or with timing chain the noise happens even in park ?
Do not use additives and make sure you change the oil every 5k kms not 5k miles use catrol mobil ,shell you need to replace the timing chains in can break anytime and will certainly breaks your valves and cylinder head
2004 maxima with 104k miles ,same noise, is very hard to do the job?? Do o have to remove the oil pan in order to remove the bolts for time cover?? Thanks
I do not like Nissans because of the timing chain problem it is costly n plus if you no how to do the work you dont want to do it, I done one and it sucks, now this quest,smh, I have to do it again now right after I'm selling it
hi there, i have a 2017 nissan pathfinder, and i was wondering if there is a timing chain kit to buy,, if there is a part number or something to find it,, thanks again
Yes you can but there is a chance that you will slip your timing if the tensioner cannot hold up, mine needs to be serviced also but it's going to have to wait...
to those who complain about their vehicles:- people are too stupid today than they where 30 years ago , I am not a Mechanic but I sure know as you do too; you need air , food and water in order to stay alive ! so does your vehicle you rely on . it needs its oil change every 3000 miles or every 3 months , water ( antifreeze ) checked weekly with other fluids , and its tune up every year give or take . and other necessary parts such as brakes , tires , fuses , relays e.t.c . a big example is my girlfriend's niece drove her brand new Nissan Altima for 2 years and never changed its oil , and she wondered what the fuck went wrong with it ! as I showed her stupid ass the blown up head gasket . and a factory printed date on the oil filter 2 years prior that was never changed and the oil was so fucked ? it actually crystallized from burning dead. and she replied : oh , I didn't know that I had to change the oil . all the blessings you have and you complain about your vehicles been crappy ? I say :- you don't even deserve a fucking drivers license to begin with .
I sure hope you can answer my question. Nissan maxiam 2002 code p0011. In 2004 camshaft sponsor replaced recalled from factory. Car is making that noise but was wondering could replacing the sensor be a good idea before doing the timing chain? Could the bad sensor cause the noise?. Please answer and thank you. Sandra or hoopy lol.
Sandra Rose check some Nissan and/or maxiIMA specific forums. Do a search there and both on google for "p0011" and ask some questions there. I'm sure you'll get answers.
Is this a sound it would make all the time or just when the gas pedal is pushed?. I'm hearing a rattle but only when I go to accelerate, hear zero noise when it is idling
I had the same problem with my 2014 Juke SL manufactured on November 29,2013. yet Nissan Canada looks at it as a 2014 model. Not covered under the Voluntary Recall Campaign P-4213 that covers all Juke models 2011 to 2013, Service Bulletin SB-10055923-4231, Valid from Sept. 22,2014 to Oct. 30,2015. Yet the problem of timing chain stretching wasn't discovered until May 5,2014. So I had to pay $2,440. out of my own pocket for the repairs. So why was my Juke not covered? Nissan has a problem with Model and Manufacturing dating!!!!
My 2005 Altima SE-R did that for a few weeks. Now, it sounds like you hit a pot a few times when you first crank it over, and then it goes away. Does anyone know what this could be? I was told that it isn't a thrown rod because it doesn't sound like that all of the time (only start up and sometimes when its about to shift). Has anyone else had this sound on start up??
Kendall Rand these motors have a problem with the oil system. You can look it up on forums. I think the oil pan isn't big enough and ultimately my oil pump failed and spun the bearing. I wouldn't drive it at all. You can replace the bearing but it will fail again.
it wasn't his car it was a customers who promised they changed the oil every 4000 miles and I'm guessing a girl customer because anytime a girl tells you i promise it's a lie.
wwccauto i do the same in my 2005 nissan pathfinder.after change it, when starter the truck in the morning the oil gauge, take like 2 3 seconds to goin up, oil pump are the same, make noise like dry chain, just for 2 3 seconds, then everything is fine, look like oil pump does not start right away, already change oil and use nissan filter oil. any ideas? i would appreciate , wwccauto
+zyou8er No. A skipped chain means the timing has either advanced or retarted. These engines are Zero tolerance so that means if something like that were to occur, the valves would hit the pistons. Most of the time, the timing tensioners and guides need to be replaced.
"hot spots" in the engine from carbon buildup can cause sludge (due to oil breakdown from excessive heat) .. so keep engine clean with gasoline additives like Chevron Techron, etc).
Finally a quality video that actually describes how to fix something on my Nissan. Thank you, even if my noise isnt from my timing chain i found this useful and interesting.
Had the same problem. Husband fixed it replacing all 3 chains and all the internal parts with his dad and took them well over 4 days total cost around $600. You have to be real careful to make sure the seal around the timing chain case and oil pan is perfect or it will leak oil because its a liquid seal and you have to make sure the bead is perfect and you dont rub off the bead trying to get the timing chain cover back into a tight spot. The biggest part of this job is removing everything thats in the way around and under the timing chain case including the entire top of the engine
Total bullshit.. you do not need to remove the entire top of the engine
You need to remove the upper intake manifold and both valve covers. Only thing left is the intake manifold and cylinder heads so pretty close.@@ramblingrebel6811
My Nissan Titan has roughly 310,000 miles and still running strong as normal. I change my own oils and use synthetic. I also add a little marvel mystery oil in the crankcase every other oil change. Haven't had any issues whatsoever.
The 3.5 engines were notorious for these plastic tensioners breaking so your post holds no value.
I like how u say "but anyway". Like it's just a walk in the park for u to work on difficult engine jobs
It is not only the miles, but also the time. If they went over 6 months before an oil change, this can cause the problem. The real reason is the oil was not changed properly via time or mileage. Hope you changed the water pump at the same time.
He had left over bolts meaning he is a better engineer than the engineers themselves lol
Thanks for the video man. I have a 05 SE-R and I felt the noise at start up was something to do with timing guide or a chain. 120k and it's already like that. Also, if you have any videos over the CVT auto transmission that would help a lot or if you know anything about them?
Great stuff, I think my guide has fallen off as well.
My 02' Nissan Altima 3.5L SE seems to be making the same rattle. This is a great video,though I do wish you'd shown the procedure of taking that all apart & getting inside the engine as you had. Seems that is the most difficult part & I want to be sure, of what I need to perform it & procedure.
There's actually a video on that. There are 3 parts.
MAN!!! Nice Vid Bro!! I’m a fan for sure 🙏👊🏼
Did you have to remove the AC compressor and drain the freon?
Do you have a video on how to repkace the oil pan gasket upper?
Your a beast..... the Maxima has the same engine same problem. But with the max u have more space. Most people with the quest drop the engine.
"more"?! Jesus, I must be looking at my engine bay wrong
Mine is doing it now where can I get my parts from so I can have the work done to my Nissan
Also, what would cause it to rattle on start up for a quick second then stop? And to have it going on for 2 years now without getting worse?
my engine is YD25 (frame d22) and a had a similar noise on the road yesterday which stopped after 20min , what was that noise?
I own 3 Nissan Maxima's. At 178k,251k and 194k, Maintenance is key.I bought the one with 251k, replaced the Chain,gears etc., due to LACK OF OWNER MAINTENANCE.
This is the ONLY thing you must do. These are INCREDIBLE Engines, just absolute Lousy owners. I also own a Acura TL, Good car, just a daily driver.
What is good maintenance on these engines? Just regular oil changes? (3k-5k)
@@deasttn look online for the owners manual if you don't have one but it should list owner maintenance throughout 0-200,000 miles
Great video. my '02 Sentra is doing this right now. Was the tensioner the only part you had to replace or was the chain and other things replaced aswell? thanks for the video
If you are digging that deep into the engine everything ought to be replaced. Wear and tear on the sprockets and chain guides is easy to see, the chain itself can be a bit more difficult to assess. Best to just do it all, especially on a Sentra where all of these parts are fairly cheap. Replace the hydraulic tensioner as well.
Hi, I have a 2005 Nissan Quest and it’s making a Loud rattling noise and also shakes on the side where the motor is ....can you give me a few notes please on what I need to do?
Great video. Have a question. We have a 2005 Altima v6 with 73k miles that also has noise coming from the timing chain. I used a screwdriver with my ear to the handle and it sounds like the noise may be coming from the upper guide instead of the tensioner guide although I have not taken the cover off to verify it's the exact same issue as this one. It sounds similar. Since the chain is supposed to last over 100k miles, can I change just the tensioner and the 3 guides without removing the chain? Or does the chain have to come off in order to change the guides and tensioner?
You could replace just the guides and tensioner if you want. The chain on this engine seemed perfectly fine but it was replaced because by the time you get in there you might as well do it all. Usually all the parts come in the kit anyway. Having said that, the secondary chains that go between the cams and their associated tensioners require more time and effort to get to, but some may choose to leave them alone. Ideally you should do everything behind the cover, but ultimately it's up to you, and I think you could probably get away with just doing the guides and tensioner if you really wanted too.
my Nissan Maxima 1997 turns on but it won't drive when I switch gears it makes a harsh noise when I placed it back to park...is the transmission bad or is it a sensor please help
Mine is an 02 with 213,000 on it and upon start up after it has been sitting a while(usually overnight) i hear this "rattle" that lasts like one second then goes away. It's been doing that for a while now and hasn't gotten worse. Would changing the tensioner fix this?
i have a 2010 nissan frontier le and the muffler has holes in the bottom. i sometime here a rattling sound from muffler. would the holes cause the sound
thank you for the video pointing to the problem but i wished you had a video how to take the guide off or at least point to what needs to be done i have been looking for that video or forum but to no avail.
Four years later and there still isn't much info on the topic...how to fix it wise.
the car engine misfire and shakes in idle ..will it may be timing chain .note that i checked the car and changed the sensers
did you drop the engine or leave it in
What would it cost to fix? I have that same problem with my 2005 quest?
Does the engine still wynd and the cam still spin if theres a problem with the chain, started it up cranking ova but not starting opened up oil cams still turning, is that still the problem though, cheers for any help.
would a 18 VQ35DD be the same issue possibly?? p0014/17 noisy chain on cold start and still heard while running not as bad tho
No wonder. look at all the sludge. did you change oil?
Is it possible to change out the primary tensioner through the access parts without removing the the entire timing chain cover?
Duran Ortiz yes
In your opinion, is it absolutely necessary to remove the upper oil pan. I've seen other videos on this job, and there is no mention of removing it. I know the Nissan shop manual states to remove it, but I'm hoping to bypass that step. My concern is the seal at the bottom of the timing chain cover since the upper oil pan would be already in place. I plan to do a dry fit to see how it will go.
I removed the upper oil pan because it was leaking from the gasket on the transmission side. With the upper pan out it is easier to assure that the lower part of the timing chain cover will seal when you put it back. However, you don't need to remove it if you don't want too, and you can put the cover back on and have things seal up nicely.
I am hearing a ticking / knocking noise from this area. It sounds almost like frayed serpentine belt hitting something or a playing card hitting a bicycle tire. Could it be related to any timing components? What kind of noise would a faulty timing component make? I thought it could be lifters, but I used a stethoscope and it's clearly louder under the timing cover.
I hear it more distinctly at idle, although intermittently off and on. Especially after coming back from a highway drive. It's a 2007-2012 4 cylinder
Did you ever find what the problem was ? Im having the same issues.
great video man that is my problem with my car right now i went to the dealer and they quote me 2300 to fix it it the about right or not
To whom it may concern: I have a 2004 Nissan quest 3.5 L engine and recently the timing chain was changed when I got the car back I was getting a code P0305, I installed new spark plugs you coils and new injectors, and I also check compression which was excellent any ideas as to why I'm getting this code? Is it possible that the timing chain can be off one tooth?
If you are off even one degree you’ll know it,back fires&shakes engine& sounds awful,likely just needs code cleared,try disconnecting - term on battery for 5 minutes,if that fails need a good scanner to clear.,
have this problem on my 2004 Lincoln aviator it rattles on the start for a brief 4 seconds which I know is the tensioner but while it's running either parked or on natural it will be a clicking noise exactly like the one on this video but not that bad but goes away when I accelerate. What can be the clicking noise? I know it's coming from the timing chain area
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change your oil?? whats that?
So did the owner of the car say what kind of oil they use something they told you made you assume it wasn't synthetic right just asking I buy synthetic just wonder if it's worth it
Can I send you some videos so I can diagnose my 2007 maximas noise?
I have a 2004 Nissan Quest with 134k miles and I have never had this timing chain problem. Do you think I may have this problem in future? At what mileage does this problem occurs of these vans?
Mine is 2005 and it just started at 110 k miles. I started hearing "coffee grinder" kind of noise coming from the passenger side of the engine.
@@melocitomelopongo2177 my '08 started doing it around 117k. but we made the mistake of not allowing it to warm up before driving it
The Auto Rules what symptoms did you have i have a 2005 nissan altima and i am getting the engine code p0303 missfire in cylinder 3
HEY , MY TENSIONERS WERE CHANGED TWICE NOW, EVERY TIME THE COLD START UP SLACK SOUND FROM THE CHAIN GOES AWAY LIKE FOR 4 DAYS AND COME BACK, THE FIRST TENSIONERS THAT WERE CHANGED HAVE VERY LITTLE MARKS OF THE TIMING CHAIN, WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE,??? I HAVE A PERFECTLY CLEAN AND HEALTHY ENGINE AND CLEAN OIL, BUT THE SOUND DRIVES ME NUTS. COULD THE PHASER BE MAKING THE SOUND AT START UP???
fireblade639
My 2002 Nissan Maxima was making this noise. I replaced the front left catalytic converter in which the clicking noise on the left side stopped. There's still a clicking on the right side of the car so I plan on replacing the timing chain to see if that addresses the noise. The Nissan service department alleges that both of my cats were performing at an inefficient level. When I got the repairs done for the cat, my mechanic (including a second opinion) confirmed that only one cat came up on the diagnostic code. I'm hoping that reolacimg the timing chain will resolve the clicking noise however; I may not be totally convinced that the radiator side doesn't need to be replaced as well. Just providing you with something to consider.
Feels weird to say thanks for making my heart sink, but thanks 😢
Bhai Hyundai Verna ki timing chain kit replacement ki video bana do
That's most definitely a timing chain mine's make a ticking sound I know it's not timing chain mine is probably lifters so this video helped me I thought mine was a timing chain thank God it wasn't
My timing chain on my '02 Maxima made a louder than usual rattling noise on startup this morning. It's always made a racket when it's first started in the morning, but today was louder. I hope this "fun" job is not in my future!
Well, 2 years later and the engine and chain are still doing just fine. I did recently replace the valve cover gaskets myself and the area under the valve covers look like a new car at 165k miles. I really do think the only VQ's that have timing chain issues are because of people stretching out the oil changes too far. I've always changed mine at 5k miles, but my car burns a quart every 1000 miles so even after 5k the oil has been refreshed pretty well. If it didn't burn oil I'd go with 3,500 mile OCI's on this car on dino oil or 5k OCI's on synthetic.
So you had this noise and never got it taken in to get changed out?
Maximaniac72 Never made the noise after that so I forgot about it. Car has 165k on it now and still runs like a top. It's never even had a CEL!
After what? What did you replace on it?
John Ortiz Nothing.
Question folks! Does anyone know what gaskets or seals are under the upper oil pan? I have to tackle noisy chains but could not find any info on the gaskets. Does the upper pan use liquid gasket?
yes it is liquid gasket Nissan calls it threebond part # 999MP1217FPP . there are gaskets in the aftermarket but i wouldn't use them.
how long can it run like this before it causes a real problem?
Hello to all of you! question, i am not a mechanic but i know how to play with tools - if i follow your instructions do you think i can do this alone?. i have all the necessary tools, the mechanic wants to charge a lot and i don't have the money to pay. please advise.
This vehicle is not mine, the owner swears they change the oil every 4 or 5 k miles which should be fine but who knows what kind of oil they are using. The sludge buildup in this motor is extreme. Joseph Moran: if it is just making noise at start up it could just be the tensioner, but this engine only made the noise at start up for the first little bit before it got much worse.
Here is the video showing some of the sludge buildup found in this motor.
Engine Sludge
so, you say it's a time consuming job. How long did it take you to complete?
wwccauto Mine did not have that much sludge. Its likely they used the wrong oil because a nissan is very specific on what kind of oil to use. On top of that makes me wonder if they had any cooling system issues because poor performing cooling systems cause more sludge to form.
+Stephanie H I've bin a Nissan mechanic 12 years, that era 3.5 and 4.0 engines all do it sooner or later. It's a design flaw. I've done many!
mrjoeyb how long does it usually take to clean up and fix?
yes, people say a lot of things when it comes to oil changes.. they always say " i had it done recently"... when you ask 5x then they admit that the last recently was 2 or 3 years ago... bad/wrong oil and too little oil changes play a big role when it comes to chain or tensioner issues...chains need clean and good oil and they`re also quite hard on the oil, too (shearing)
How will I know if I have a timing chain or timing belt for 2006 Nissan Sentra? I lifted the hood and saw a timing belt but not a chain. When I called to price an AC belt and timing belt, the guy said you should have a chain, not belt. I clearly hear the noise of the belt and I felt it and it feels like it's warn and cracking. Any suggestions/advice? Thanks👍🏼
Rhonda Hill Try Google
The chain is hidden and the belt you see is probably for the ac,power steering,and all that shit...
Rhonda Hill your timing chain incsed in a metal cover& is lubercated with oil,if you don’t know that then you better not try changing it,it’s a lot of work& I recommend you buy a manuel& read it first!good luck if you mess up the timing while doing it!
How long it can run in this condition?
What did you do with all the extra bolts you had leftover when you put it back together?
Sell them on ebay. LOL
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Took the timing cover off and fixed the tensioner. When I put it all back together it apparently jumped timing. Now it's out time. Both cams are sitting at 2 o'clock. Ugh. With an interference engine how the heck to you fix it without taken the top of the engine apart? Turning the crank doesn't work because the cams don't line up at all.
stumpmtsr now it gets complicated,get a manual to find out how many degrees off top dead center to set it,,you have to find out which cylinder is #1,pull the spark plug on #1&put a long screw driver in the hole,with a breaker bar rotate the engine(turning the crank shaft clockwise till the piston pushes the screw driver all the way up)that puts #1 cylinder at top dead center.now rotate further to degree book shows for your engine(both lifters should be level&valves closed when top dead canter)when putting on the chain expect a little kick back,so recheck degree mark after installed,repeat if gear moved off mark when you check till you have degree(4 to 8 degrees off top dead center.you better get a good Manuel,hayes preferred) this happens to be common problem because the kick back off sets the degree mark.live&learn,good luck
Thanks for making the video
wwccauto......I just rebuilt my 08 Nissan Sentra and it started right up no problem after assembly but it seems to have the same noise as in your video....im not very experienced .....the chain looked good so I didn't change it nor the guides....it seems the noise is from the valves like a diesel engine.....I don't know what it would be.....help....thanks,
SuperScareface1 noise travels through metal,hard to locate,might try 5oz of sea spray in oil& one can of sea spray in intake first to clean oil ports to head&lifters first.
How to chak 2010 model this same probkem
Yeah they changed the oil every 4000 miles, they probably didn't mention that they idled the engine for hours a day.
I change the oil in my car every 10-12k miles and there is zero sludge. The difference is my commute is 40 miles one way and i dont sit and idle. I dont use drive throughs.
I have this issue with my Infiniti g35. When I drive it on the highway at high speed and release the gas pedal I hear the timing chain making a loud noise spinning
Will you please answer my question? Please I don't hardly have anyone to help me and I need help bad.
Did you have to move the engine to remove the cover for the timing chain ?
I believe he removes one engine mount
Help me how did you get the crank bolt off ? Mine is on there really tight I’ve used a 1100 ft lb torque impact and no luck
Torch it and shock it with cold water
@@hellosweetheart3350 Put a breaker bar on it leaning on the ground and crank your engine...it worked for me.
Hello Sweetheart fuck no. don’t shock you idiot
can anyone tell me where the timing marks should be on the pulley of the crankshaft so I do not have to tear it all the way down
rocky qualls yes
Hi can you Adjust the tensioner without taking the the entire cover off ?
Tensioner adjusts using oil pressure
Did you say how many miles where on that engine? I have one with 107,000 that has this issue...... Not looking fwd to this repair.
Me either
Where are you located? If in Las Vegas area reach out I’m having this problem right now!! Help plz!!
To me that sounded like your needing a valve adjustment, I had the same problem same ticking noise. And after the repair everything was gravy
Why would the valves need adjusting on an engine with hydraulic (self-adjusting) lifters?
@@sblagg527 not sure if they do have self adjusting lifters. I took it to the infiniti dealership that's what they told me. It's a common problem with the G35.
You agree that Nissan engines are unecessarily complicated and time consuming to repair. When something goes wrong, mechanic needs to remove so many parts to fix the problem ?
My Nissan murano is making a similar noise. But it only happens when its gear and accelerating the gas pedal. The car does not have to be in motion only in gear and be given gas .
Would it be the tensioner or timing chain or with timing chain the noise happens even in park ?
How did you get the cover back on? I am having a hard time with it.
Do not use additives and make sure you change the oil every 5k kms not 5k miles use catrol mobil ,shell you need to replace the timing chains in can break anytime and will certainly breaks your valves and cylinder head
one question you need to remove the engine oil to remove the cover
What's the cost of a full timing chain and tensioner guides typically cost?
William Russell $1200-$1800
I have a Haynes guide, metric socket set & gift card to Harbor Freight. But, have a ?. 3:44 upper oil pan?
2004 maxima with 104k miles ,same noise, is very hard to do the job?? Do o have to remove the oil pan in order to remove the bolts for time cover?? Thanks
Yep
@@melvinriddick7325 I ready hate thia car
I do not like Nissans because of the timing chain problem it is costly n plus if you no how to do the work you dont want to do it, I done one and it sucks, now this quest,smh, I have to do it again now right after I'm selling it
hi there, i have a 2017 nissan pathfinder, and i was wondering if there is a timing chain kit to buy,, if there is a part number or something to find it,, thanks again
There is but u need a specifc kit. Get the part numbers id say.
Excellent video! Can I drive my 2004 Nissan Quest 3.5SL for a month like this? I’m waiting on a Paper Stimulus Check. My noise began February 28th!
Yes you can but there is a chance that you will slip your timing if the tensioner cannot hold up, mine needs to be serviced also but it's going to have to wait...
@@SageBlackmoon Thanks for the info!
I changed timing chain and i drove for abt 600km and it started again producing noise wat could be the problem
At how many kms it should be changed?
why they always lying? (singing)
to those who complain about their vehicles:-
people are too stupid today than they where 30 years ago , I am not a Mechanic but I sure know as you do too; you need air , food and water in order to stay alive ! so does your vehicle you rely on .
it needs its oil change every 3000 miles or every 3 months , water ( antifreeze ) checked weekly with other fluids , and its tune up every year give or take . and other necessary parts such as brakes , tires , fuses , relays e.t.c .
a big example is my girlfriend's niece drove her brand new Nissan Altima for 2 years and never changed its oil , and she wondered what the fuck went wrong with it ! as I showed her stupid ass the blown up head gasket . and a factory printed date on the oil filter 2 years prior that was never changed and the oil was so fucked ? it actually crystallized from burning dead. and she replied : oh , I didn't know that I had to change the oil .
all the blessings you have and you complain about your vehicles been crappy ? I say :- you don't even deserve a fucking drivers license to begin with .
What does it sound like when you start the motor?
Clicking noise, especially when the engine is below operating temperature.
Can I swap the guide and tensioner without taking the entire timing.cover off?
I sure hope you can answer my question. Nissan maxiam 2002 code p0011. In 2004 camshaft sponsor replaced recalled from factory. Car is making that noise but was wondering could replacing the sensor be a good idea before doing the timing chain? Could the bad sensor cause the noise?. Please answer and thank you. Sandra or hoopy lol.
Sandra Rose check some Nissan and/or maxiIMA specific forums. Do a search there and both on google for "p0011" and ask some questions there. I'm sure you'll get answers.
Does the car show any codes when this issue occurs?
Nope
2011 maxima same issues thanks man
Thanks so much
what all do you have to remove to get to the guide without removing motor
Jennifer Hott depends on if your car is rear or FWD
If you have to ask its over your head!
i thought my click on my maxima was bad lol this is horrible. That engine is hella dirty too ha
MangoExpress85 put
I have a Maxima too! It has 174899 miles on it
If chain breaks, will oil leak out from the bottom?
If the chain breaks, chances are you'll need to replace the motor because the pistons will most likely be hitting the valves
Is this a sound it would make all the time or just when the gas pedal is pushed?. I'm hearing a rattle but only when I go to accelerate, hear zero noise when it is idling
Your car's noise is probably caused by the front hub.
Its mean the car engine is dead?
I had the same problem with my 2014 Juke SL manufactured on November 29,2013. yet Nissan Canada looks at it as a 2014 model. Not covered under the Voluntary Recall Campaign P-4213 that covers all Juke models 2011 to 2013, Service Bulletin SB-10055923-4231, Valid from Sept. 22,2014 to Oct. 30,2015. Yet the problem of timing chain stretching wasn't discovered until May 5,2014. So I had to pay $2,440. out of my own pocket for the repairs. So why was my Juke not covered? Nissan has a problem with Model and Manufacturing dating!!!!
My 2005 Altima SE-R did that for a few weeks. Now, it sounds like you hit a pot a few times when you first crank it over, and then it goes away. Does anyone know what this could be? I was told that it isn't a thrown rod because it doesn't sound like that all of the time (only start up and sometimes when its about to shift). Has anyone else had this sound on start up??
I have that problem on my 2006 nissan altima what is it?
Kendall Rand it's a spun rod bearing. I am replacing my motor due to this. These motors are AWFUL. When something goes wrong be prepared.
How long you think I can drive? And what you think caused it?
Kendall Rand these motors have a problem with the oil system. You can look it up on forums. I think the oil pan isn't big enough and ultimately my oil pump failed and spun the bearing. I wouldn't drive it at all. You can replace the bearing but it will fail again.
Thanks for the tip.
What kind of crap oil were you using
Murder oil
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it wasn't his car it was a customers who promised they changed the oil every 4000 miles and I'm guessing a girl customer because anytime a girl tells you i promise it's a lie.
wwccauto i do the same in my 2005 nissan pathfinder.after change it, when starter the truck in the morning the oil gauge, take like 2 3 seconds to goin up, oil pump are the same, make noise like dry chain, just for 2 3 seconds, then everything is fine, look like oil pump does not start right away, already change oil and use nissan filter oil. any ideas? i would appreciate , wwccauto
Hi Javier Marin my maxima is doing the exact thing.. Did you fix yours already??
Javier Marin if you add a little bit of Lucas it would help a lot!
Carlos Arias add where. in the oil?
oscar padilla yeah. they have lucas for transmission and motor because oil alone isn't enough.
I guess he doesn't answer any questions then he needs to disable comments cause it gives us hope he will answer.
Can a skipped chain cause misfire? Thanks!
+zyou8er No. A skipped chain means the timing has either advanced or retarted. These engines are Zero tolerance so that means if something like that were to occur, the valves would hit the pistons. Most of the time, the timing tensioners and guides need to be replaced.
I thought it was the tensioner because it sounds similar
if engine oil is changed every 5kto8k miles. this issue will not happen.
dirty engine will sludge up the tension componants.
"hot spots" in the engine from carbon buildup can cause sludge (due to oil breakdown from excessive heat) .. so keep engine clean with gasoline additives like Chevron Techron, etc).
No, it's a defective design. The replacement parts are corrected for this defect.
Bro if I stuck something to the end of the tensioner so it pushed on the plastic thing so you think that could stop the noise?