I was shocked by this wonderful music, especially by 2, 3, 4 pats. And excellent performance. Ready listen it more and more. Thank you for such a good music.
This is grand, powerful, evocative, Wagnerian, ... ; awesome, late-Romantic, lyrical, and triumphant music from Dopper, who makes wind instruments shine from the outset !!! Thanks Bom Cabedal for posting this gem.
It is - but it also appears to draw inspiration from French and Italian comic opera, just like Wagner did up to and including his first great success, Rienzi. Cheesy marching band tunes or short melodic passages that would not have sounded off in one of Meyerbeer or Rossini's operas can be heard, but also almost literal quotations (in terms of texture, figuration but also use of wind instruments and how contrasting motifs are pitted vs. one another) from Der Fliegende Holländer.
I know this will sound lame, but life is so full of challenges I've taken to seeking out music that doesn't put up too much of a fight. This is absolutely perfect. It's pretty much just tunes! And lovely ones too.
È un poema sinfonico. Poetico,affascinante,estraneo ad una corrente musicale del tempo,quindi molto soggettivo. Lo trovo piacevole. Complimenti a Cabedal per averci scoperto questo compositore olandese.
I am certainly glad to have the opportunity of hearing Dopper's First Symphony. Four of his other symphonies are available on TH-cam and they are enormously attractive works, of which this, his first, is also, If you can give us his 4th and 5th symphonies, I would be most appreciative. Glad to have found you, Bom Cabedal!
Thanks so much for this Bom. I discovered Mr Dopper's symphonies a couple of years ago. I have recordings of Symphonies 2,3, 6 & 7. I would love all of his symphonies and I have emailed Naxos to suggest they have a look at his music with a view to championing him.
During the last few years Dopper's work has been rediscovered in the Dutch Groningen province (Stadskanaal lies in this Northern Dutch province) and in the meantime it received regular media coverage. It was only because of this I learned about this composer and got to appreciate his work.
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Very interesting work! Never heard of th8s composer before
First time I hear Dopper. His name is familiar. It's one of the 'great composers' names that grace the walls of the Concertgebouw Hall. So he must have been thought highly of by his countrymen a hundred years ago.
Your mention of Dopper's 4th and 5th symphonies remaining in manuscript reminds me of the situation with the English composer, Charles Stanford. According to Groves, his 1st Symphony remains "unpublished", yet Vernon Handley resurrected it and there is now an integral set of all 7 Stanford symphonies (note 7 - like Dopper!). An "epic symphony of Mahlerian size and length" - now THAT I'd love to hear - one can only hope that Dopper fares as well as Stanford.
These were part of a larger project with the Residentie Orchestra and Matthias Bamert; they also recorded the Hol symphonies and works by Voormoolen and Verhulst (the Verhulst symphony is very good indeed). The project appears to have ended, unfortunately.
Oorspronkelijk en speciaal zowel in stijl als in vorm, vooral deel IV.Het is totaal anders dan de Duitse school als een mentaliteit van expressie, Cornelis Dopper is origineel.Geweldige en prachtige Symfonie.
Also, 30:47 sounds more like the start of the 4th movement, 30:00 just sounds like the middle of the previous movement. And I have to say that final movement is absolutely epic
Good spot! But it's not 30:47. The fourth mvt begins at 26:54. I've changed the description, so thanks! A while ago, I was updating all my older videos with track times, and I might've goofed here and there.
For awhile Chandos was projecting the complete Dopper symphonies. However, something happened there and it appears to be dead in the water. Very unfortunate.
Neither the 4th nor the 5th have been recorded and - to my knowledge - only exist in ms. The fourth is an epic symphony of Mahlerian size and length, based on Homer's Iliad.
In Nederland praat iedereen elkaar na; men durft niet meer uit te komen voor een andere smaak dan die van het establishment. Gelukkig dat ik toch nog een medestander heb.
You can hear the post-Romantic phrasing and motifs that would later fuel cinematic productions of the modern era. It was all downhill from here, unfortunately.
I was shocked by this wonderful music, especially by 2, 3, 4 pats. And excellent performance. Ready listen it more and more. Thank you for such a good music.
This is grand, powerful, evocative, Wagnerian, ... ; awesome, late-Romantic, lyrical, and triumphant music from Dopper, who makes wind instruments shine from the outset !!! Thanks Bom Cabedal for posting this gem.
It is - but it also appears to draw inspiration from French and Italian comic opera, just like Wagner did up to and including his first great success, Rienzi. Cheesy marching band tunes or short melodic passages that would not have sounded off in one of Meyerbeer or Rossini's operas can be heard, but also almost literal quotations (in terms of texture, figuration but also use of wind instruments and how contrasting motifs are pitted vs. one another) from Der Fliegende Holländer.
I know this will sound lame, but life is so full of challenges I've taken to seeking out music that doesn't put up too much of a fight. This is absolutely perfect. It's pretty much just tunes!
And lovely ones too.
Could be the best composer ever 🎉.
TH-cam has triggered with me a persistent searching for yet another enjoyable orchestral work. I found this one enjoyable.
È un poema sinfonico.
Poetico,affascinante,estraneo ad una corrente musicale del tempo,quindi molto soggettivo.
Lo trovo piacevole.
Complimenti a Cabedal per averci scoperto questo compositore olandese.
I am certainly glad to have the opportunity of hearing Dopper's First Symphony. Four of his other symphonies are available on TH-cam and they are enormously attractive works, of which this, his first, is also, If you can give us his 4th and 5th symphonies, I would be most appreciative. Glad to have found you, Bom Cabedal!
Thanks so much for this Bom. I discovered Mr Dopper's symphonies a couple of years ago. I have recordings of Symphonies 2,3, 6 & 7. I would love all of his symphonies and I have emailed Naxos to suggest they have a look at his music with a view to championing him.
During the last few years Dopper's work has been rediscovered in the Dutch Groningen province (Stadskanaal lies in this Northern Dutch province) and in the meantime it received regular media coverage. It was only because of this I learned about this composer and got to appreciate his work.
Very interesting work! Never heard of th8s composer before
First time I hear Dopper. His name is familiar. It's one of the 'great composers' names that grace the walls of the Concertgebouw Hall. So he must have been thought highly of by his countrymen a hundred years ago.
He was also Mengelberg's second-in-command at the Concertgebouw and very beloved by the public because he conducted most of the subscription concerts.
Your mention of Dopper's 4th and 5th symphonies remaining in manuscript reminds me of the situation with the English composer, Charles Stanford. According to Groves, his 1st Symphony remains "unpublished", yet Vernon Handley resurrected it and there is now an integral set of all 7 Stanford symphonies (note 7 - like Dopper!). An "epic symphony of Mahlerian size and length" - now THAT I'd love to hear - one can only hope that Dopper fares as well as Stanford.
Never heard anything about English composer Charles Stanford. But now l'l try find his symphonies in TH-cam. Thank you.
Smooth, rich, flowing
Beautiful, interesting.
These were part of a larger project with the Residentie Orchestra and Matthias Bamert; they also recorded the Hol symphonies and works by Voormoolen and Verhulst (the Verhulst symphony is very good indeed). The project appears to have ended, unfortunately.
Thank you Bom Cabedal. You are truly a gift to mankind.
Magnificent!
Oorspronkelijk en speciaal zowel in stijl als in vorm, vooral deel IV.Het is totaal anders dan de Duitse school als een mentaliteit van expressie, Cornelis Dopper is origineel.Geweldige en prachtige Symfonie.
En nooit te horen in de Nederlandse concertzalen.....
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Also, 30:47 sounds more like the start of the 4th movement, 30:00 just sounds like the middle of the previous movement. And I have to say that final movement is absolutely epic
Good spot! But it's not 30:47. The fourth mvt begins at 26:54. I've changed the description, so thanks! A while ago, I was updating all my older videos with track times, and I might've goofed here and there.
For awhile Chandos was projecting the complete Dopper symphonies. However, something happened there and it appears to be dead in the water. Very unfortunate.
Molto grazie...:)
Neither the 4th nor the 5th have been recorded and - to my knowledge - only exist in ms. The fourth is an epic symphony of Mahlerian size and length, based on Homer's Iliad.
Absolute shame that no recordings exist of those. I’d love to hear them
A delightfully pictorial bit of phantasmagoria -- okay, a little silly, but with some very fun story-telling.
Wauw! Wanneer weer eens op het programma in Nederland ?
Absolutely love 6:41 to 8:36
Prachtige muziek. Waarom horen we deze symfonie nooit in de Nederlandse concertzalen?
In Nederland praat iedereen elkaar na; men durft niet meer uit te komen voor een andere smaak dan die van het establishment. Gelukkig dat ik toch nog een medestander heb.
Maybe CPO can take up the cause. They've done some amazing work with composers even more obscure than Dopper.
Pure beauty, just like Diana herself!
She seems to have improved with age judging by this beautiful musical tribute.
You can hear the post-Romantic phrasing and motifs that would later fuel cinematic productions of the modern era. It was all downhill from here, unfortunately.
Sometimes It looks like Dvorak!