How To Know Which Hole To Slide Your Trailer Tandems | Scaling A Load For Legal Weight
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I've had 2 trainers and never learned how to move the tandems. Every time I asked they just said "oh don't worry about it I'll check the weight" and then they would move so fast I didn't have a clue as to what they were doing. This has been very informative thank you so much.
Went through the same thing!
Same thing,here.
Same for me too!
May Trucking in Pensacola is the worst Company for instructions
You are literally the best teacher. Better than my whole CDL school I went to and trainers at work. Simple, understandable, and to the point 👌🏽
This was an excellent video I just came back from Ohio and I had to do This exactly. My school never showed me how to do this God-bless you brother.
I watched your videos while I was in school 2 months ago learning to back up and now that I’m on my own had to watch this one to distribute my weight. I can finally leave now after weighing 3 times lol!! Your videos are so helpful! Thank you!
I'm go start driving next week for a trucking company and this have shown me how to slide tandems best video I seen yet👍
Thank you for a thoroughly well explained demonstration. There's a lot of very bad "trainers" who don't do anything close to this.
Went right into food distribution after CDL school (no need for any of this) got a drop/hook job last week. Covid is used an excuse for no training. This is by far one of the best trucking “how to” videos I’ve seen! Thank you so much!✌️ & ❤️
Bro u still have to slide them at some places .......
Yeah his video was straight up & down
Tandems or 5th wheel, the rule is "move the box the way you need the weight to move". To move weight from drives to tandems, you move the box back (so tandems slide further forward in their frame). To move weight from drives to steers, you slide the box forward (5th wheel slides forward).
You neglected a step in 5th wheel sliding, you have to take the weight off the 5th wheel. That means dropping your landing gear all the way, and then either cranking the gear down more (like 25 turns in low gear, maybe more), or, if equipped, dump the air bags. If you dont have a bag dump, drop the landing gear til it doesnt want to crank in high gear, hit the slide switch, then crank in low gear until you hear the "CLANK" of the 5th wheel pins retracting.
For "reference points", I personally use the cab steps as the moving point, and a dropped glove as the fixed point. That way you're lining up points (eye, moving, fixed) in a straight line, nice and close... far more accurate.
One more "cheat", get a box of blackboard chalk (cheap, like a buck, the box will last years). Once you "count off" your holes on the tandem frame, use the chalk to mark your "target hole" (circle, cross hairs, v arrow, whatever). After your slide gets your reference line up, when you go back to extend your pins, you will see which direction you have to move to "latch" in the right hole, or if you missed entirely.
One last note, in my company 2018 cascadia, equipped with a bag dump, I have a bag pressure gauge. At 28,000 lbs or more drive weight, it functions well to give your drive weight. 2 lbs gauge pressure equals roughly 1000 lbs. So 62 psi is pretty close to 31000 drive weight. 64, 32000. I know an empty trailer and my cab with full fuel weigh about 34,500 lbs. I know my "normal" 5th wheel position usually gives 11,500 to 11,900 lbs on my steers under load. So let's say I picked up a 35,000 lb load headed to california. (Roughly 70k total weight). I subtract 11,800 steer weight, leaving 58,000 or so. Slide my tandems to the "cali line" (10 ft forward of the rear of my 53 ft trailer), then dump my bags, and reinflate them on level ground. Once the needle stops moving (it takes a full minute) I check the gauge. If it reads 60 psi, I have 30k roughly on my drives, so 28k on the tandems. If it shows less than 56 psi, my tandems could be overweight, because it gives no accuracy below 28k load. Then I'll put weight on the drives until i hit a stable 60 psi, and count holes to leave 34k or less on the tandems, and position the tandems there. Assuming i meet the bridge law positioning, i can confidently roll to a CAT scale assuming I'm reasonably legal for the whole trip. If not, I'm still legal to the scale, so I can get an accurate "rework weight" at the cali line.
Great advice guys. .. Don’t states have different rules when comes to random pin? Like Ca 40 or something?
@@ajdasa6169 that's called the state bridge law, and the motor carriers road atlas lists them all in the state by state dimensions table. In cali, it's 40 ft from kingpin to centerline of rearmost trailer axle. The kingpin is 3 ft from the header boards on a 53 ft trailer, so using a tape measurer to measure 10 ft from the swing door forward gives you 40 ft from the kingpin (53-3=50-10=40). Some states measure to the middle of the tandems from the kingpin for bridge length (the table lists specifics). Idaho has a "calculated offset" bridge law which seems like higher calculus is required, but their DOT website has a calculator page. The offset bridge is required on ALL routes that aren't "national network", and a permit is required. If you're on an interstate or within a mile of one (just passing through) you dont have to worry about it, but even some US highways in Idaho require the permit and offset bridge length. Check your weight and dimension tables in the atlas, some states are absolute "12, 34, 34", others allow heavier dual axle (tandems and drives) weights, some even allow up to 20k on your steers (IF your tires are rated for that weight) a couple have whacky "weight per inch of tire width" steer axle weights. It's always a good idea to make sure you're legit for your entire route before you roll, so you don't get bitten in the back pockets by a "500 lb per inch of steer tire width" max (which with 295 metric width tires is 11,600 lbs, lol).
Luddit, wow. You must be a trainer and a real pro in trucking .,great explanation bro ., I ll be doing intermodal in CA Az and Nv soon with Schneider and appreciate all you guys for educating us ..they don’t teach you so much in details in orientation., 👍
@@ajdasa6169 lol, I'm a noob (year and a half), and my "mentor" was a useless idiot who just wanted me to grind out miles. But my entire solo time has been OTR, and I stay out 3 months at a clip. Had tires in every lower 48 state but north dakota so far. I'm also a cheap bastard, and hate the idea of paying fines or losing time. I ask the old timers, hassle my fleet cubicle dwellers, and "check all the angles", lol. Here's a specific hint for you, with the regional gig you describe: go to the local home depot, and get an 8 ft 2x12 cut into 4 equal lengths. When you have to chain up (like for donner, trust me, you will), you roll the inner dually onto the board. That lifts your outter enough to get the chain on, tight, the first time (no rolling and tightening crap). 4 pieces so you have 1 each for 2 drives and 2 tandems. Got that from an old timer. Also make sure you have 40 or 50 bucks cash on you, that way you can pay a "chain up guy" to set them for you if you seriously have no interest in putting them on yourself (the ticket for ignoring a chain order is usually around 250 bucks, so even 50 is a bargain)
Luddit . Thnx for the reply. One more question if u don’t mind , as a new driver, backing isn’t easy at all. When u go to Amazon DC or Dollar general, backing into the hole isn’t Easy with 53’ and my trainer helped me out. If ur alone , and every driver and switcher at the dock , waiting until you finish backing impatiently and that’s intimidating., You don’t even feel like get out and look as we taught in trucking school . What should we do ? Just ignore them n take my time to Alley dock and backing ? Coz they all are watching like I m a fool ? 😀
One of the best videos on explaining the movements on the pins for your trailer thank you it was helpful especially the part where you explain how even the fifth wheel pins can be moved fortunately I know not every truck has that option but it was really nice that you talked about it thank you and God bless
Thank you for such an easy to follow video. Been trucking for almost 2 years but mostly flatbed. I am going to be driving dry van and wondered about the trailer tandems. This really was simple and couldn't have asked for a better tutorial. Thank you and have a blessed day.
Man best advice and video on how to slide tandems you put it where the goats 🐐 can get it like my uncle always says in other word simple not hard for some of us who take a bit to catch on I am so glad to have found your channel bravo love and peace
“Where the goats can get it” 😂😂😂 that’s a very funny saying
This dude needs to be a cdl instructor... Helped me out for sure thanks man
Im a new driver just finished my mentorship but I just couldn’t do OTR so I’m looking for a local job and this is great information you make it sound so easy you’re a great teacher
Go drive for DG fleet. Depending on location you could be home most nights. At the very least you get 2 days off a week in a roll so not too bad.
Very well explained brother. Better than a lot of videos I’ve seen. Keep up the good work and god bless you
Love the detail . Thank you brother. I now understand the tandems weight etc. I have yet to start school yet now feel a bit more condident that I can do this! Please keep making these videos. I am your number one follower sir.
Good explanation!
However, to make the adjustment, all you need to do is to first count how many holes are before the hole where the pin is before making the adjustment. In your case, the pin was on the very first hole relative to the front of the vehicle. There were no holes before the pin. Since you want to move 9 holes towards the tractor unit (driving the vehicle forward) to make the necessary adjustment, all you need is to drive forward until you get nine holes PAST the original pin position, which was hole number 1. After the adjustment, you will see the pin inside the 10th hole counting the pins from the front towards the rear side of the combination vehicle. In addition, you need to state the fact that the gross weight to be distributed should not exceed 80,000 lbs, which is 12,000+34,000+34,000=80,000. Moving tractor fifth-wheel tandems or trailer tandems won't resolve the weight distribution issue if the gross weight exceeds 80,000 lbs. You would only need to move the the tractor tandems (if the vehicle is equiped since not all tractors come configured with adjustable fith-wheel tandems) only if the legal weight distribution could not be resolved by moving the trailer tandems even if the declared gross weight is 80,000 lbs or less. This can happen when the shipper wrongly arranged the load inside the trailer when loading by putting way too much heavy weight to the front or to the rear of the trailer making it impossible to correct the distribution by moving the tandems. This can only be resolved by taking the load back to the shipper and asking them to rearrange the load correctly.
Thank you for this video, it gave me a better understanding of how to slide the tandems. I just got done with training and been on my own for one week. I trained with a trainer for about a month but he really didn't explain it that well. This video cleared some things up. Thanks again 🙏
You have been so specific. Very helpful. Thank you for this explanatory video 🙏🏽 You just became my new best friend on the road.
Glad it was helpful!
I never plan on becoming a trucker but even I understood your explanation perfectly! You’re a great teacher especially by actually showing how it’s done. Amazing job!
Excellent video my brother from Africa 🌍🌍🌍
My company’s trucks don’t have the adjustable 5th wheel. My last company’s trucks do and drivers were constantly adjusting the 5th wheel to be California legal. They also have tandem stoppers for the trailer. It makes adjusting much easier.
Thank you so much for this video. I was so confused when it came to anything regarding tandems but not anymore. You explained everything so thoroughly!
Glad it helped
Great video brother. I like how you give details and repeat information for any student to understand, which is a very good teaching technique. 🙏
Thank you so much!! You are greatly appreciated.. this helped me so much. I was used to doing teams and never learned the whole concept of sliding the tandems and weight distribution, now I am solo and you totally fixed that problem for me! I’m forever grateful. Feeling much more confident OTR
Glad it helped!
Im in cdl a school right now and inkeept failing the questions for these type of questions the school doesn't teach this but brother you just explained it to me so easily i get it now thankyou so much you just got a newsubscriber
Mr. Moses , You are the Best instructor i may say Sir, Thank you so much for sharing . God bless you ,
God bless you too!
Very good video. Very easy to understand! Thank you!
Very detailed great video this video will be very helpful for new drivers.
Seripusly bro you have the best video on TH-cam thanks so much
🌴☀️thanks bro I’ll never forget this now ☀️🌴
Those two references points for sliding the tandems was brilliant thank you
You explained this in a way that makes sense. Thank you.
When it comes to detailed information, this channel is where I check. BTW, chalk is excellent to use for the reference points mention in the video. Can you believe my trainer told me each hold is about 1,500 pounds!!! Thanks for the videos, keep up the good work
Your trainer said each hole is 1500???? Yikes. Sad we have to come to youtube after having trainers
You are really a good hearted person my friend......its the nice way to explain everything to the new drivers...every experienced person was one of the new ones before ......nd they should teach the new one like this brother...great job ...keep it up...👍🙏
Thank you for your kind words
I like how you explain and demonstrate in the video. You are a perfect teacher
Great videos and very helpful, Moses! Thank you!
Glad you like them!
I normally have post its to mark the hole. Sometimes is good to ask the yard if they have scales. If they do I would set the scales and adjust while the scale is on
Most customers will not allow you to adjust them while still on the scale because it messes the scale
Thank you so much!!!!! I’m with swift rn and my mentor did not teach me this at all!!!! But I now i have somewhat of a better understanding thank u again!!!
Nice and clear directions. Thanks much
You are welcome!
the best ever who explained how to do it. thanks man
Excellent!! THANK YOU for sharing your knowledge with us.
My pleasure!
brother your English similar to mine I'm getting it clearly thanks for the help
The best clearly detailed video ive seen on this . Good job my man This will help many people.
Love your videos ! As new driver here I value your advise and information greatly ! Praise
Thanks, work for sysco. Didn't know how to move 5th wheel slide so this helped.
Glad it helped
This is the best explanation so far. Thank you so much.
Love your technique, it's genius, I'll try with tape, and chalk
Great video! Im studying for the test and now I feel I got a good grip on this part! I kept getting these questions with moving x amount of holes to transfer weight wrong! Thank you for your video!
Glad it helped
Sir, I salute you thank you so much my trainer sucks
Whacko, Texas. You pronounced that just right! Just kidding, thank you for the video, my friend!
I love your videos. You always give me the right information at the right time! Thank you for helping me!!
Thank you for everything you do. The BEST
I'm moving and stationary reference point or on point that is so helpful thank you very much
Very awesome teacher your videos are amazing and also you are explaining step by step be blessed very soon I hope I will be truck woman
Very helpful video! Thanks!
Great video thank you so much…👍Truck driver from Southern California….🚛. 🚛
Great Video!! Learned a lot watching your video! Thank you for making it so simple.
Thank u sir... very good illustration. God bless you
Very good explanation
Thank you so much, especially with the mark the hole where you want to end up.
thanks bro you explained this so very very well
Glad to be of help
Definitely helped me thanks dude I really appreciate this
Glad it helped
@driversuccess I'm a master now lol thanks to you !!
Very thorough and helpful explanation, I was impressed.
Excellent video !! You have a new subscriber. I look forward to more videos from you !!
Nice reference point trick. Safe driving. 👍
Great info! Thank You! Love how detailed you were.
Hi Moses, good job on the video, and what a nice looking refrigerated container. I mean man, it looks really great. Plus too, that is a cool t-shirt that you had. I like it. Hey Moses, it looks like UPS and FedEx are getting involved with the vaccine distribution. I wish that J B Hunt could do the same thing.
I think it’s because Fedex and UPS are “mail/package” shippers.
This is brilliant
I’m new driver this helped a lot thank you so much brother
Excellent explanations you appreciate
Remeber if it gets stuck, try driving or reversing in the opposite direction of where you plan on moving them.
I can't get jiggy with this ish😂
I don’t think he gets the joke . Lol
So informative. Thank you Man.
Thank you for this video 👍🏻 You offered great explanations!
Thank you very much my friend really helped me out.
Thanks for the helpful tip driver, god bliss u and stay safe
VERY GOOD TEACHER A1.
Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video god bless your brother, keep safe and keep up the wonderful work you are doing.
You are the best
Thank you it was very informative
Glad it was helpful!
God Bless you my brother
Amen
Great explanation! Great video. 💯
Great video. Explained perfectly and in great detail. Well done Sir. Thank you.
What a natural teacher you are
This lessons was my hardest in my truck school but you make me easy to understand
Sweet video 👍🏽👍🏽
Love your videos man I’m learning from them
💪🏾You're the best. Thank you 🤲🏽
This was a great tutorial !
Thank you so much for this. Very very well explained and detailed. Truly awesome
Good information, thanks for the demonstration.
Thanks bro for the info. Well done
Nice , very good explanation, thank you
Very nice trick , it helps a lot
Thanks you for sharing
Golden!
Bro excellent job keep up with videos
Really great explaining keep it up brother. .
Who else is watching this because your trainer isn’t explaining this to you clearly? 😂😂
Appreciate it this definitely very helpful
Very good thank you for your time to teach us newbies.
Great training video!
Very straight forward. Thank u sir
Thanks you are the best keep it up