Nietzsche: Master and Slave Morality Explained

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  • @PhilosophyVibe
    @PhilosophyVibe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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  • @FutureMindset
    @FutureMindset 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    It seems that slave morality is a coping mechanism developed by people who have come to terms with being unable to live successful lives by making their weakness into a virtue.

    • @ROSHing1
      @ROSHing1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      you are correct

    • @David-sq2en
      @David-sq2en 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are assuming the slaves have the agency to do this.

    • @caseyspaulding
      @caseyspaulding 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dang!

    • @G-host0069
      @G-host0069 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The wise peasant bows and silently farts

    • @UN1VERS3S
      @UN1VERS3S ปีที่แล้ว

      Greed can be with wealth or without wealth.
      Humility is being proud of your strengths aswell accepting your weaknesses
      Obedient = follow rules for self to be better
      Opressed = follow rules soley for another abusive persona's betterment.
      Purity = having respect and dignity for body, with or without sex.
      Nietzsche's mind is fucked up.

  • @maverick114e9
    @maverick114e9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very cool explanation! You do a good job at summing up concepts in philosophy! May i request you do more Aristotle?

    • @PhilosophyVibe
      @PhilosophyVibe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you, glad you like the content. Is there any specific Aristotle topics you would like to see covered?

    • @maverick114e9
      @maverick114e9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PhilosophyVibe His contribution to science or his “A is A” premise (this is off the top of my head and i dont know everything about him)

  • @mhtinla
    @mhtinla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The last part: slaves taking away masters' power, wealth, and status in order to achieve equality... Is that also from Nietzsche or a reflection of current affair?

    • @romannosatyi2772
      @romannosatyi2772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      from Nietzsche, he didn't like socialists

    • @austinsowers2974
      @austinsowers2974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@romannosatyi2772 It sounds like he was pro socalism though with that end.

    • @romannosatyi2772
      @romannosatyi2772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@austinsowers2974 it might seem so, but he saw equality as immoral

    • @defoperator7993
      @defoperator7993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they fought ww2 over these very issues laid out here

    • @defoperator7993
      @defoperator7993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and most likely ww3

  • @jasonjones2329
    @jasonjones2329 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Simple, quick and very informative. 👍

    • @PhilosophyVibe
      @PhilosophyVibe  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it

    • @darillus1
      @darillus1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      simple yes, quick yes, informative no

  • @Comboman70
    @Comboman70 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn, this channel is so good!

    • @PhilosophyVibe
      @PhilosophyVibe  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @UN1VERS3S
      @UN1VERS3S ปีที่แล้ว

      Greed can be with wealth or without wealth.
      Humility is being proud of your strengths aswell accepting your weaknesses
      Obedient = follow rules for self to be better
      Opressed = follow rules soley for another abusive persona's betterment.
      Purity = having respect and dignity for body, with or without sex.
      Nietzsche's mind is fucked up.

  • @elgatofelix8917
    @elgatofelix8917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Since slaves are, according to this philosophy, cowards; does that mean a courageous individual born into poverty is considered a "master" ?

    • @premprasun1516
      @premprasun1516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I guess so

    • @Dan-ud8hz
      @Dan-ud8hz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, that's actually more in line with his ideas than people being born into wealth and comfort being of master-morality material, as they develop affluenza and are essentially chained as a slave to their status and image, as well as those who want to be them. In essence, slave morality is living entirely superficially and inauthentically: in short, posers.
      This is a good description of Nietzsche's sense of morality along the lines of self-mastery and overcoming:
      “Man is a rope stretched between the animal and the Superman--a rope over an abyss.
      A dangerous crossing, a dangerous wayfaring, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous trembling and halting.
      What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not a goal: what is lovable in man is that he is an OVER-GOING and a DOWN-GOING.
      I love those that know not how to live except as down-goers, for they are the over-goers.
      I love the great despisers, because they are the great adorers, and arrows of longing for the other shore.
      I love those who do not first seek a reason beyond the stars for going down and being sacrifices, but sacrifice themselves to the earth, that the earth of the Superman may hereafter arrive.
      I love him who lives in order to know, and seeks to know in order that the Superman may hereafter live. Thus seeks he his own down-going.
      I love him who labors and invents, that he may build the house for the Superman, and prepare for him earth, animal, and plant: for thus seeks he his own down-going.
      I love him who loves his virtue: for virtue is the will to down-going, and an arrow of longing.
      I love him who reserves no share of spirit for himself, but wants to be wholly the spirit of his virtue: thus walks he as spirit over the bridge.
      I love him who makes his virtue his inclination and destiny: thus, for the sake of his virtue, he is willing to live on, or live no more.
      I love him who desires not too many virtues. One virtue is more of a virtue than two, because it is more of a knot for one's destiny to cling to.
      I love him whose soul is lavish, who wants no thanks and does not give back: for he always bestows, and desires not to keep for himself.
      I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favor, and who then asks: "Am I a dishonest player?"--for he is willing to succumb.
      I love him who scatters golden words in advance of his deeds, and always does more than he promises: for he seeks his own down-going.
      I love him who justifies the future ones, and redeems the past ones: for he is willing to succumb through the present ones.
      I love him who chastens his God, because he loves his God: for he must succumb through the wrath of his God.
      I love him whose soul is deep even in the wounding, and may succumb through a small matter: thus goes he willingly over the bridge.
      I love him whose soul is so overfull that he forgets himself, and all things that are in him: thus all things become his down-going.
      I love him who is of a free spirit and a free heart: thus is his head only the bowels of his heart; his heart, however, causes his down-going.
      I love all who are like heavy drops falling one by one out of the dark cloud that lowers over man: they herald the coming of the lightning, and succumb as heralds.
      Lo, I am a herald of the lightning, and a heavy drop out of the cloud: the lightning, however, is the SUPERMAN.--”
      ― Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra
      “Many bad men are rich, many good men are poor; but we shall not exchange wealth for honor, for money flits from man to man but honor abides forever.”
      ― Solon of Athens

    • @JesusHChrist2000
      @JesusHChrist2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well since the courageous slave still lacks the ability to do what they want, I'd say that they're more likely to be judged by the standards of slave morality, as their peers are more than likely from the "slave" class.
      Meaning that their courage is likely to be seen as a vice.

    • @jimmyfaulkner1855
      @jimmyfaulkner1855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daniel Duvalle Was Nietzsche a virtue ethicist?

    • @harisbbbbaaa
      @harisbbbbaaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wealth never stays in bloodline in free, capitalist systrm

  • @willdan11
    @willdan11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This clip seems, somehow, very relevant.
    Thanks for sharing

  • @Mijn3023
    @Mijn3023 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nietzche accentuated the favorable and unfavorable aspects of both master and slave morality

  • @vinm300
    @vinm300 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well done, very informative.

  • @contentweaverz2438
    @contentweaverz2438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for explaining it better.

  • @brianw.5230
    @brianw.5230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wonder what Nietszche thought about himself because his life imbodied the slave.

    • @zachjones6944
      @zachjones6944 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nietzsche was not a member of “the herd”.

    • @praz7
      @praz7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He's now become an Ubermansche as his ideas are now used as an inspiration by everyone whether it's right wing or left wing, they try to claim him as their own.

    • @brianw.5230
      @brianw.5230 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Inquisitor how did he become a noble, in his words?

    • @gammadion
      @gammadion ปีที่แล้ว

      Did it though? I'm not certain you understand what that means.
      He created his own morality, thus he is a master.

  • @paxtonanthonymurphy3733
    @paxtonanthonymurphy3733 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Would an example of Master/Slave Morality be Ayn Rand's philosophy ?

    • @Dan-ud8hz
      @Dan-ud8hz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. The opposite in fact. Will to Power is a collection of his notes arranged by his sister after his death that really distort Nietzsche's actual ideas and to help support her own beliefs, which were more akin to Slave Morality. This is a good description of Nietzsche's sense of morality along the lines of self-mastery:
      “Man is a rope stretched between the animal and the Superman--a rope over an abyss.
      A dangerous crossing, a dangerous wayfaring, a dangerous looking-back, a dangerous trembling and halting.
      What is great in man is that he is a bridge and not a goal: what is lovable in man is that he is an OVER-GOING and a DOWN-GOING.
      I love those that know not how to live except as down-goers, for they are the over-goers.
      I love the great despisers, because they are the great adorers, and arrows of longing for the other shore.
      I love those who do not first seek a reason beyond the stars for going down and being sacrifices, but sacrifice themselves to the earth, that the earth of the Superman may hereafter arrive.
      I love him who lives in order to know, and seeks to know in order that the Superman may hereafter live. Thus seeks he his own down-going.
      I love him who labors and invents, that he may build the house for the Superman, and prepare for him earth, animal, and plant: for thus seeks he his own down-going.
      I love him who loves his virtue: for virtue is the will to down-going, and an arrow of longing.
      I love him who reserves no share of spirit for himself, but wants to be wholly the spirit of his virtue: thus walks he as spirit over the bridge.
      I love him who makes his virtue his inclination and destiny: thus, for the sake of his virtue, he is willing to live on, or live no more.
      I love him who desires not too many virtues. One virtue is more of a virtue than two, because it is more of a knot for one's destiny to cling to.
      I love him whose soul is lavish, who wants no thanks and does not give back: for he always bestows, and desires not to keep for himself.
      I love him who is ashamed when the dice fall in his favor, and who then asks: "Am I a dishonest player?"--for he is willing to succumb.
      I love him who scatters golden words in advance of his deeds, and always does more than he promises: for he seeks his own down-going.
      I love him who justifies the future ones, and redeems the past ones: for he is willing to succumb through the present ones.
      I love him who chastens his God, because he loves his God: for he must succumb through the wrath of his God.
      I love him whose soul is deep even in the wounding, and may succumb through a small matter: thus goes he willingly over the bridge.
      I love him whose soul is so overfull that he forgets himself, and all things that are in him: thus all things become his down-going.
      I love him who is of a free spirit and a free heart: thus is his head only the bowels of his heart; his heart, however, causes his down-going.
      I love all who are like heavy drops falling one by one out of the dark cloud that lowers over man: they herald the coming of the lightning, and succumb as heralds.
      Lo, I am a herald of the lightning, and a heavy drop out of the cloud: the lightning, however, is the SUPERMAN.--”
      ― Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

  • @elgatofelix8917
    @elgatofelix8917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Are you sure that obedience is seen as a virtue by the lower class? If so, why is rebellion seen as cool and edgy?
    Especially since rebellion is needed to take the wealth from the upper class and achieving a so-called "state of equality"

    • @a.bismail6492
      @a.bismail6492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Among the herd they are weak and obedient but towards the top they are envious and rebellious.

    • @praz7
      @praz7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Because you have to be obedient in the herd, but when it comes to confronting their perception of evil, they believe in rebellion

    • @lykastannis7662
      @lykastannis7662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All these modern socialists think they are being cool and edgy rebels by having an opposing view of the system they live in but really they are just following the herd. Socialism is cool and edgy because the media, big tech, and celebrities say it is. Being what is perceived as rebellious and revolutionary by society is actually being obedient to the masters. It's a great trick. The best way to control the herd and keep them loyal is to convince them they are doing the opposite.

    • @haydee7476
      @haydee7476 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lykastannis7662 how is the media socialist? what are you saying

    • @lykastannis7662
      @lykastannis7662 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@haydee7476 I'm from Europe and left wing media in the west is framed to be very liberal and progressive but in reality the average liberal by American standards is a complete radical socialist and their opinions are normalized while they consider the average Conservative traditionalist a Nazi. The liberal media in the west appeals to Socialists. I'm from former communist Yugoslavia. I know what I'm talking about. The only difference is that the socialists being created in the west build their philosophy on the grounds that they are weak and lazy so really they will never be a threat.

  • @kayukthebruh5601
    @kayukthebruh5601 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im quite interested if anyone care to give me an example of a person who was "powerful" but also had "slave morality" and WITHOUT them pretending to have slave morality to keep their "power"

  • @ivymukherjee26
    @ivymukherjee26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please make a video on Ontology..

    • @PhilosophyVibe
      @PhilosophyVibe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for the recommendation, we will look into this.

  • @marcpadilla1094
    @marcpadilla1094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Power has to be shared for progress. Masters are not necessarily progressive. E.G. The South, slavery, and the civil war. Absolute power loves to ignore taking responsibility for itself and the quality of life of their subjects.

    • @gammadion
      @gammadion ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and I'm sure whoever rules over you would love to hear you say this to them. And I'm sure that you will change your mind once you prove how inhuman and mean they're acting.

    • @marcpadilla1094
      @marcpadilla1094 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gammadion Truth to power. Always a backlash. Is it worth it ? Probably not but Masters will ensure a resistance mounts since the life and death drive dynamic keeps the potential threat of self hatred always in play. Why referencing history is such an effective way for gaining and keeping political leverage. That and propaganda and false flags ,hoaxes, and any relevant current event to the same effect.

    • @UN1VERS3S
      @UN1VERS3S ปีที่แล้ว

      Greed can be with wealth or without wealth.
      Humility is being proud of your strengths aswell accepting your weaknesses
      Obedient = follow rules for self to be better
      Opressed = follow rules soley for another abusive persona's betterment.
      Purity = having respect and dignity for body, with or without sex.
      Nietzsche's mind is fucked up.

  • @eugenedeguzman5675
    @eugenedeguzman5675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this :)

  • @nicoleweigelt3938
    @nicoleweigelt3938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The guy in the purple jacket still cracks me up

  • @karambakbak6226
    @karambakbak6226 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done

  • @enemybird
    @enemybird 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The problem with master morality is that there is less humanity in it. I say that as an atheist. Humans are social animals that evolved toward cooperation, altruism and companionship. Certain societies will always have people at the very top but unregulated "master morality" from those who have extreme amounts of control have a more detrimental impact because of the power they have. There should always be a governing body to prevent the extremes on both ends. I know this video was an objective explanation, Im just thinking out loud.

    • @yessir2514
      @yessir2514 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah Epstein, Bezos, Maxwell, R kelly, Saddam Hussein or any major corporation.

    • @mouwersor
      @mouwersor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The people who had master-morality were pretty good at cooperation and companionship. Are you sure you aren't envisioning a strawman-version?

    • @Multi407D
      @Multi407D 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No they aren't. You are cherry picking evolutionary psychology to fit your ideology. Humans are not altruistic. The evolutionary term is called 'kin altruism', it posits that humans act altruistically reciprocally, but it is directly correlated to in group preferences (Ie, Brothers with brothers, Tribe members to tribe member), these benefits are rarely confered to an out-group.
      It is literally a mechanism which exists to facilitate genocide.

    • @gd9259
      @gd9259 ปีที่แล้ว

      We already see what happened to truly altruistic societies i.e. Hunter gatherer. Where the hunters, i.e, the strong are denigrated. The societies never advance and more advance societies wipe them out.

    • @gammadion
      @gammadion ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your very expression of that is not an objective critique but an expression of your slave morality.
      In reality, slaves don't get this luxury of criticizing, or rather their criticism is not able to defend them from being subjugated.
      The only hope a slave has is to enslave the master and making him feel guilt ridden for being so.
      TL;DR, nature is cruel and masters always win unless they are convinced not to.

  • @ShareefusMaximus
    @ShareefusMaximus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Between master and slave is the freeman that wants neither masters nor slaves. Get free, stay free.

  • @narcissistfactoryproxy9221
    @narcissistfactoryproxy9221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    they're both slaves really, one is just more honest w himself.

  • @xyoungdipsetx
    @xyoungdipsetx ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it’s a little more than what u pointed out.

  • @redpillsatori3020
    @redpillsatori3020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    *Christianity, Marxism, and Feminism have entered the chat

  • @rachitaurora
    @rachitaurora 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @johncaze757
    @johncaze757 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if someone has both moralities?

    • @KevinKamto
      @KevinKamto 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They get a cookie! 😊

    • @centercannothold
      @centercannothold หลายเดือนก่อน

      they are called hypocrite.

  • @David-vb8tg
    @David-vb8tg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's still happening.

  • @balajzafarr
    @balajzafarr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thought provoking

  • @wovokanarchy
    @wovokanarchy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Narcissism? I would label it as psychopathic or Genocidal.

  • @fooraapkotjakker8131
    @fooraapkotjakker8131 ปีที่แล้ว

    Masters and slaves are dependent on each other. There is no freedom in dependance.

  • @zachjones6944
    @zachjones6944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The “herd” & herd immunity.

  • @starkjenkins204
    @starkjenkins204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    will smith brought me here!!

  • @ErikAnkan73
    @ErikAnkan73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So.... Political correctness?

  • @syppy7416
    @syppy7416 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    NGL, Nietzsche sometimes gives off the same vibes as the 12-14 year olds who quote him nonstop

    • @Morphdog9819
      @Morphdog9819 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Give me a break. Nietzsche would’ve hated the edgelords. He hated nihilism, and was trying to warn us about the nihilists. 12-14 year old children are not representative of Nietzsche’s ideology, or any other ideology for that matter. Try engaging with the philosophy yourself instead of making dumbass comments based on what you gleam from a 3 minute TH-cam video.

  • @yakub3962
    @yakub3962 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know many slaves. Too bad, for them.

  • @Shanaevaz
    @Shanaevaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An this why people still have a slave mindset today. I love your viedo ❤ all this education is making me free ❤

  • @cherylanne4762
    @cherylanne4762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This misses the difference between poverty caused by oppression because the Masters don't allow us, and poverty due to the consequences of our own failings.

  • @phoenix0110
    @phoenix0110 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agreed, this is exactly what happen in china

  • @Rubmanation
    @Rubmanation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    haha, show this to a Buddhist monk.

    • @Rubmanation
      @Rubmanation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, I am not a monk myself but I see a lot of people around me suffering, and this is caused by craving or not letting go of things and/or identity, holding on to the idea of master and slave morality. Also Nietzsche himself was suffering from major depressions in his later life. In this sense, I can't see much wisdom in the dualistic categorical truth he proclaimed here.

  • @kayukthebruh5601
    @kayukthebruh5601 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Slave morality because you are weak is bad, because you are a hypocrite.
    Being weak because of slave morality is good, because you are sacraficing yourself for the bigger picture.
    However the problem is knowing which one are you because being honest with yourself is the hardest thing to do.
    This is all factual and i am right.

  • @samricher
    @samricher ปีที่แล้ว

    Righthhhs

  • @UN1VERS3S
    @UN1VERS3S ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Greed can be with wealth or without wealth.
    Humility is being proud of your strengths aswell accepting your weaknesses
    Obedient = follow rules for self to be better
    Opressed = follow rules soley for another abusive persona's betterment.
    Purity = having respect and dignity for body, with or without sex.
    Nietzsche's mind is fucked up.

  • @xperiagalvez2398
    @xperiagalvez2398 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Christianity was invented to supress the intellect, and infiltrate intellectual societies, by emphasizing the concept of humility. "Virtues", such as humility, are CONCEPTS. Humility, is the absence of self, and therefore, requires the individual to compromise their unique identity. That makes one a fool, not wise. Youre telling me, that im supposed to treat a lesser specimen, as my equal? And that that makes me a good person? BULL! It makes me a fool! Religion is the devils most ingenious trick, and all the dim wits succumb to it.

    • @kayukthebruh5601
      @kayukthebruh5601 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You say that religion is the devils trick but where is the devil found but in religion. Not a christian btw

    • @yessir2514
      @yessir2514 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Master morality will end humanity in Nuclear War.

    • @kayukthebruh5601
      @kayukthebruh5601 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yessir2514 replace "master morality" with "pshycopats born into powerful families"

    • @yessir2514
      @yessir2514 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kayukthebruh5601 You forgot Isaac Newton, Rene Descartes, Gallileo Gallilee, Nikola Tesla. These people were mocked and jeered but they didn't give a fuck. They did what they wanted and actually found truth and helped the world make a better place. The slaves are lucky that these people didn't weaponize their inventions against them.
      There is no afterlife, so why not make this only life we have better.

    • @Mijn3023
      @Mijn3023 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a very oversimplified approach, a half-truth.