Another aspect in a race? They also should bring back the FULL Nordschleife (aka nurburgring), with the long track, from slow corners to the masive straights (very, very old start finish straight before the newer straight and somewhere else in the track). It got everything (also altitude changes)
Oh boy how do i miss that era...screaming V10s, gravel and sand, praying for mc laren engine to blow up,waking up early for suzuka and late at night for canada...Those were the days...R.I.P F1.
It's be even better if It included the Porsche Curves from Le Mans (I know you are just using former and current F1 Tracks, but despite this I think it would be an awesome addition) :)
maybe Verstappen size balls are more accurate? (i'm not a fan of him or his driving style.. i quite dislike his style but that boy certainly can light up those 2 corners)
+Tijs Herijgers not just the corner, but the downhill straight before it is what makes eau rogue. It wouldnt be such a spectacular corner if the straight leading up to it was half as long
i couldn't agree more, I watched a Renault 2.0 race weekend (plus gt3 and Renault sport rs 01) and I couldn't believe how steep the downhill straight before eau rouge was!
Corners are all way too fast. Needs a chicane or two for overtaking or at least some slower corners somewhere. I love seeing these cars flying through super fast turns but it makes for some boring races i think.
Daniel Brain i agree, every single corner on this track are high speed and have no overtaking opportunities. but i would still give my life to thrash any era of F1 car around a track like that!
+DonMichaelCapone There is a race called 24hours of Nürburgring, but they don't race just the GP circuit, they race on the whole Nordschleife layout for 24 hours, man. Now that's an epic stuff and this Dream Track is almost nothing compared to the Green Hell.
But look at the Nurburgring Nordschleife structure, the turns are not that hard. A lot of parts of the circuit is full throthle and long 6 or 7 gear turns. I play Nordschleife a lot in a GTR 2 mod for PC and is not a circuit that turns you crazy is so softer and perfect for an endurance race. This dream circuit turns you crazy, so hard turns and so strong for a car 24 hours of race.
+DonMichaelCapone I was racing on Nordschleife in simulators, too. Maybe there are harder turns in the Dream Track, but there are hard turns in Nordschleife, too. Let's begin with the fact, that it's a very tough thing to setup the car correctly, because there are lots of long straights, but there are slow and fast corners, which can be very tricky. This Dream Track is full of "predictable" corners and it's much easier to setup the car correctly, because you don't really need to worry about the top-speed-penalty you would get in Nordschleife (I'm very sure Monza's straight wouldn't do much head ache to anybody in setup). But it's a matter of skill and experience, of course.
i sim race too. the ring has soo so many off camber high speed sweepers. over 120 corners and every single one is unique. so yeah i agree. so tough to set up a car on that crazy course. not to mention the curbs. hitting a curb on the ring is like hitting a square curb on a real city street. those curbs will launch you to the other side of the narrow ass track and into the grass/armco faster than you can blink, let alone attempt to recover.
This is the track which will separate the men from the boys. I am sure Ham, Schumi, Vettel, Alonso, Kimi would find plenty of overtaking opportunity there.
No he can't. His computer software only makes boring tracks with same curves over and over again. He is just pressing "Randomize" button and the track layout-generator gives him the result. Hermann-dude is the biggest disaster that ever struck F1. I'd rather keep Bernie if they only got rid of that boring track designer. Have you seen his interview? He's just as boring as his track layouts!
To be fair, it's not all Tilke's fault. He has to work with what he is given, and the truth is that there is an atrocious number of regulations that don't allow him to do anything interesting without repeating himself. For example, with today's regulations, Eau Rouge could not exist. And you may think that this is an extreme case, but probably Acqua Minerali wouldn't be allowed too! So blame the FIA and Bernie.
today they like to project the track too much. racing tracks always have to use the natural design of the geagrphy of the place... like the elevation changes in interlagos and spa,
Right and tracks nowaday are created like this. As a trackdesigner I can confirm this. But if the building site is plane you can´t do much as a designer. I think people just don´t realise what amount of stuff you have to think about while designing a racetrack. It´s much more than "only" the layout. Of course, it´s the first and actually the most important step but really, there is so much more. At the end it´s all about money... And to be fair, also at Tilke tracks are many great corners
+schroeder1112 how much money are we talking here? I know that legit F1 tracks run into the multi 100 million dollar range but how much would a relatively plane and simple track like willow springs cost realistically? complete with ground, permits, parking and some small facilities.
Bring back cars from 2000 to 2008 and they would sound better and make it easier to overtake because they would be thinner and dirty air wouldn't be a problem
@@CrazyBiti I see an off camber downhill 130r into Eau Rouge dip then raise to raidillion and kemmel straight, just like gran turismo 2's license stage.
I heard that the old flat out A1 Austrian grand prix curve was a great adventure. Also the curved straight of the Hockenheimring going into the tight chicane. This would add an opportunity ot overtake.
Amazing dream track! Just one thing, in Interlagos, after the "Junção", is "Subida do Café" - we don´t call it "Arquibancadas". After Senna´s "S", is "Curva do Sol". Anyway, great job!
Cool circuit, but a pain in the ass to overtake. I see about four overtaking spots: Elf, Dunlop-Kehre, Senna S, Parabolica. With some luck the first turn in Suzuka when you can use DRS xD
Confi_User_3 I think that turn no. 7 would be also a good overtaking point. But, yes, I agree that it would be hard for drivers to overtake in such a circuit
I would add Ascari turn also. Instead of Nurburgring a part of the stadium of Hockenheim? Anyway i m glad Aqua Minerali is also there. Spa and Monza make my hair stand up lol. Great work!
Schumachring instead of the Nurburing. Another Suggestion the Monza straight leading onto the Baku Straight followed Eau Rouge then then Hanger Straight and then 130R to finish. Full speed ahead. Average speed! 240mph. Lovely!
Ich mach mal auf deutsch.... Ich finde die Auswahl und die Reihung Perfekt! Wer braucht Überholmanöver wenn die Autos fliegen? Überholmanöver wurden weich gewaschen und endedelt (
Really sad to think how since this footage of Schumi in his heyday was taken, most of these corners have been either neutered by changes to kerbs and runoff, or lost from the calendar all-together.
Awesome design, but 3 laps and your tyres would be burned out with all those high speed corners :D
Another aspect in a race? They also should bring back the FULL Nordschleife (aka nurburgring), with the long track, from slow corners to the masive straights (very, very old start finish straight before the newer straight and somewhere else in the track). It got everything (also altitude changes)
Davy Lievens f1 would ruin the whole track because you would need new asphalt, barriers and things like that. the whole spirit would be gone
Davy Lievens wouldn't work, the track is probably "too dangerous" they would have to rebuild a lot of it and that would ruin it
Jacob Billberg MORE 2ND GEAR CHICANES
Dave McKeegan and sore neck
See from video, can understand the feeling from that..the feeling from driving at every turn ..speed & overtakes
this circuit would be good to old school drivers like Prost,Senna,Gilles Villeneuve... they can overtake anywhere..
Verstappen can overtake anywhere as well
Oh boy how do i miss that era...screaming V10s, gravel and sand, praying for mc laren engine to blow up,waking up early for suzuka and late at night for canada...Those were the days...R.I.P F1.
When I was little my favorite circuit was the Hockenheim ring, so this is too many corners to my taste. These days I love Spa, but this is too much.
My idea of a dream circuit already exists. It's called Suzuka.
much better engine sound than today.
What a great lap
1:10, Spa, not a waver, flat out. Glad I got to see him 2 times at Indy. We miss you.
Great Circuit. Nice Idea👍👍👍
Turn 8 at Istanbul Park would have been a good addition.
Let's build it! ;)
I'm sensing that you like your fast corners
It's be even better if It included the Porsche Curves from Le Mans (I know you are just using former and current F1 Tracks, but despite this I think it would be an awesome addition) :)
need the Loews harpin from Monaco !
832 Pirelli engineers cowered in fear
nice job man
his head would come of with so many high speed corners :p
I’d only change the Barcelona section to Singapore turn 1-3
Hermann Tilke be like: "not enough 90 degrees corner"
and dont forget the 2 km asphalted escape areas on each corner
one dislike for you cuz is not 2 is 5
Sorry, my mistake. I've never been to Yas Marina, so I've mistakenly shrieked the escape zones based on what I see on TV
Robby Irza I wipe my ass with Tylke's ideas.
Robby Irza or its not a 1 min 40 lap time.
130R into Eau Rouge requires some Ricciardo Size balls
is that balls the size of Ricardo himself, or just simply, balls the size of Ricardo's?
Nhf1185 xD
maybe Verstappen size balls are more accurate? (i'm not a fan of him or his driving style.. i quite dislike his style but that boy certainly can light up those 2 corners)
There is noone who takes eau rouge better than kimi...
F4aXxZ 〈3 Nah the Renault Guy that crashed (forgot if it was magnussen or palmer) takes it the best
i'd say that spa is the dream circuit by itself.
Eaux rouge is the best corner in the world
+Tijs Herijgers not just the corner, but the downhill straight before it is what makes eau rogue. It wouldnt be such a spectacular corner if the straight leading up to it was half as long
i couldn't agree more, I watched a Renault 2.0 race weekend (plus gt3 and Renault sport rs 01) and I couldn't believe how steep the downhill straight before eau rouge was!
Nope, Nordschleife would be the dream track for F1.
Máté Ágoston yea, if you are into mass suicide, Nordschleife sounds pretty good
Great idea but there would be no overtaking opportunities for cars.
However for motoGP it would be awesome.
Maybe turns 1, 10, 17 and 36? :D
***** it's very hard to overtake on turn 1 and 17
911gpd I think this would be good for endurance racing
Corners are all way too fast. Needs a chicane or two for overtaking or at least some slower corners somewhere. I love seeing these cars flying through super fast turns but it makes for some boring races i think.
every corner is a over taking zone.
Can you imagine how many Honda units you'd get through doing a weekend of this?
Well maybe not now. But when they first came, I have to ask how many Honda units you'd need to get through 1 lap of this.
Just think how many Renualt PU's this would destroy.
*doing a lap
Bryce Peters The engines are fine, it’s the electronics that are the problem.
Maurizio Arrivabene I like your username lmao
Someone needs to make this into a mod for anything. rFactor, GTR2, Assetto Corsa, AMS, anything! Just let me drive this awesomeness!
Who's up for playing with the GT6 track designer? ;-)
Or they could just add a track designer for any of those games.
stig16 The GT6 playstation game already has such a track designer. Many of the hosted online games use custom designed tracks.
Someone should make this track in GT6 then, and then make a video of it. What a track!!
There is already a mod for Rfactor, its the F1 total circuit
absolutely zero overtaking opportunities
Daniel Brain Very hard but you could try turns 1, 10, 17, and 39
Megalomanic Like Alonso did to Schumacher around the outside in 2006 I think it was. Very hard but not impossible.
3.1
Daniel Brain i agree, every single corner on this track are high speed and have no overtaking opportunities. but i would still give my life to thrash any era of F1 car around a track like that!
Gavin Murrell Amen!!!
it would be a 24-25 lap race
No it's 25-26
+Lego Tuber you have got to divide 300 by 12.17
305/12,17=25,06, so 26 laps.
Bring it on. Best racers at the front, with a longer qualification.
GP2 Feature Race would be like 13 laps and the sprint would be about 8, LOL
You'd need about 10 engines to complete a GP of this.
no because a gp isn't always the same amount of laps. it depends on the lenght of the track
+South4153 You can do a 28 laps gp or something
+South4153 they run 305km. only in Monaco they run 270km because the layout is slow paced and the race would be longer than 2.5 hours
usually F1 GPs have more or less 300 km + one lap
e.g. 1954 German Grand Prix
Course length 22.810 km (22 laps)
Fastest lap: 9:55.1
Very nice. If i win the Lottery, we will biuld it, together!!
Actually.... That's a great idea! *For Ireland tho*
Toyota would lap every one
Very nice your circuit, imagine a 24 hour race in this track.
The drivers need some mental help if they run 24 hours in this circuit, so much turns and concentration.
+DonMichaelCapone There is a race called 24hours of Nürburgring, but they don't race just the GP circuit, they race on the whole Nordschleife layout for 24 hours, man. Now that's an epic stuff and this Dream Track is almost nothing compared to the Green Hell.
But look at the Nurburgring Nordschleife structure, the turns are not that hard. A lot of parts of the circuit is full throthle and long 6 or 7 gear turns. I play Nordschleife a lot in a GTR 2 mod for PC and is not a circuit that turns you crazy is so softer and perfect for an endurance race. This dream circuit turns you crazy, so hard turns and so strong for a car 24 hours of race.
+DonMichaelCapone I was racing on Nordschleife in simulators, too. Maybe there are harder turns in the Dream Track, but there are hard turns in Nordschleife, too. Let's begin with the fact, that it's a very tough thing to setup the car correctly, because there are lots of long straights, but there are slow and fast corners, which can be very tricky. This Dream Track is full of "predictable" corners and it's much easier to setup the car correctly, because you don't really need to worry about the top-speed-penalty you would get in Nordschleife (I'm very sure Monza's straight wouldn't do much head ache to anybody in setup). But it's a matter of skill and experience, of course.
i sim race too. the ring has soo so many off camber high speed sweepers. over 120 corners and every single one is unique. so yeah i agree. so tough to set up a car on that crazy course.
not to mention the curbs. hitting a curb on the ring is like hitting a square curb on a real city street. those curbs will launch you to the other side of the narrow ass track and into the grass/armco faster than you can blink, let alone attempt to recover.
We already have a dream circuit, it's called Nurburgring (the old one).
I thought the very same...
+tormen76 I was talking about Nordschleife
its too long
Carlos Ortiz 300 km (race distance) / (circuit lenght) = number of laps. Where is the problem?
Great !!
Pouhon into 130R into Eau Rouge/Raidillon into Suzuka sector 1, my god can you imagine? Nice idea, cool video!
I donate my back yard to this project! .. Sadly it would have to be about 1/1000th scale :-(
😂😂😂 race with rc cars then :/ (:
It would still be awesome
Pouhon into 130R into Eau Rouge, im salivating,
Pouhon on to 130R and then Eau Rouge? Holy cow.
Rossticles holy cOow
Yahir Barragan holy f**ck, I hanging here like a cow. Get me out there’s fire, there’s fire
Brilliant idea for a perfect track !
With Master Schumi for the example, this track should be named *"Trial of Schumacher"*.
"You are hereby sentenced to Trial by Schumacher Course. Get the lap done in under 4 minutes or lose your SuperLicense"
Everyone: oh god oh fuck
Pouhon>130R>Eau Rouge would be pure sex 😭😭🔥🔥🔥
Then the Suzuka First Turn + Esses 👌👌👌
It would be cool but everyone would die there they're the two most deadly corners on the calendar
Where's Istanbul Turn 8?
in Istanbul
Lol
You don't need a dream circuit when Suzuka already exists
“Tires gone after 10 laps”
Watch Hamilton have no tyres after the first corner
@@philippdolschan7669 Bonoooooooo! My tyres are dead!
with 5 DRS zones
Varun Aggarwal seems legit
No drs zones just bring back the cars from 2000 to 2008
@@ethancantwell8549 *g i v e t h e m d r s a s w e l l*
Drs for noobs drivers
@@ethancantwell8549 YES
*_1:14_**_ and _**_1:23_**_ would be my favorite part. Thet match perfectly._*
That was fun!! Nice compilation you put together! :thumbs up:
Cheers!
EEver tried the rFactor World Circuit? It has some similarities to this.
To me, the dream circuit already exists... Nürburgring!!
You Are Right.
Old Nürburgring is Ready.
The amount of high speed corners in your track would make it a nightmare for tyre wear :)
This is the track which will separate the men from the boys. I am sure Ham, Schumi, Vettel, Alonso, Kimi would find plenty of overtaking opportunity there.
At the end:
"Oh theres a lot of puke in here!"
That was the idea of Magny-Cours french grand prix, taking some famous track corner and made a new one :)
Nice track but i would put some corners from Monaco
True
Swimming pool section, casino section, all worthy.
appelpower1 it would be mas though. he was bombing flat out crazy corners and then suddenly Casino where barely 2 cars fit Side by Side.
Mirabeau
But with wide track
Get well soon Schumi
The G-forces round this track would be insane! Although there isn't much heavy braking which is the main G-forces the driver experience.
Herman Tilke ? could you do that circuit please ? thanks
No he can't. His computer software only makes boring tracks with same curves over and over again. He is just pressing "Randomize" button and the track layout-generator gives him the result.
Hermann-dude is the biggest disaster that ever struck F1. I'd rather keep Bernie if they only got rid of that boring track designer. Have you seen his interview? He's just as boring as his track layouts!
To be fair, it's not all Tilke's fault. He has to work with what he is given, and the truth is that there is an atrocious number of regulations that don't allow him to do anything interesting without repeating himself. For example, with today's regulations, Eau Rouge could not exist. And you may think that this is an extreme case, but probably Acqua Minerali wouldn't be allowed too! So blame the FIA and Bernie.
today they like to project the track too much. racing tracks always have to use the natural design of the geagrphy of the place... like the elevation changes in interlagos and spa,
Right and tracks nowaday are created like this. As a trackdesigner I can confirm this. But if the building site is plane you can´t do much as a designer. I think people just don´t realise what amount of stuff you have to think about while designing a racetrack. It´s much more than "only" the layout. Of course, it´s the first and actually the most important step but really, there is so much more. At the end it´s all about money... And to be fair, also at Tilke tracks are many great corners
+schroeder1112 how much money are we talking here? I know that legit F1 tracks run into the multi 100 million dollar range but how much would a relatively plane and simple track like willow springs cost realistically? complete with ground, permits, parking and some small facilities.
Whoa! It works for me. When can they start construction?
Channel name: *GermanFootball*
Video: _F1 Dream Circuit_
wtf
Germanfootball will be his sponsor.
Mucht too fast. Needs tighter curves and chicanes unfortunately. But I like the idea a lot!
So that wouldn't be a dream circuit...
Maybe Maldonado would have enough skills to take out all the cars in time.
beutiful, but dificult overtake there!
How?
@@spacemanmonster23 Many high-speed corners. It's hard to overtake because of dirty air
Bring back cars from 2000 to 2008 and they would sound better and make it easier to overtake because they would be thinner and dirty air wouldn't be a problem
Imagine passing through 130r, feeling the track suddenly drop out beneath you then seeing eau rouge looming above you.
That's Raidillon actually.
@@CrazyBiti I see an off camber downhill 130r into Eau Rouge dip then raise to raidillion and kemmel straight, just like gran turismo 2's license stage.
Imo Suzuka is the dream track by itself...that track has got it all
To many fast corners, cars would have lack of break temperature issue
good, new challenges, danger and exploding engines, nothing to do with ecology and economy, welcome back F1
How to be a true formula 1 fan:
Complain about everything and go against opinions.
If one of the 4817 billionaires on earth, has a spare island and likes cars!?
I heard that the old flat out A1 Austrian grand prix curve was a great adventure. Also the curved straight of the Hockenheimring going into the tight chicane. This would add an opportunity ot overtake.
Amazing dream track!
Just one thing, in Interlagos, after the "Junção", is "Subida do Café" - we don´t call it "Arquibancadas". After Senna´s "S", is "Curva do Sol".
Anyway, great job!
*I'm the only one who tried to guest what circuit were without watching de right side of the screen?*
Cool circuit, but a pain in the ass to overtake. I see about four overtaking spots: Elf, Dunlop-Kehre, Senna S, Parabolica. With some luck the first turn in Suzuka when you can use DRS xD
It might not require DRS since there is a huge full throttle distance from Pouhon to Suzuka first turn. And drivers could slip stream past.
Confi_User_3 I think that turn no. 7 would be also a good overtaking point. But, yes, I agree that it would be hard for drivers to overtake in such a circuit
Tire deg and overtaking oppurtunities don't matter, that's why it's a dream circuit.
Pouhon into 130R into Eau Rouge holy cow
The old Hockenheim is my dream circuit
130r to eau rouge you must be ricciardo for that
I would add Ascari turn also. Instead of Nurburgring a part of the stadium of Hockenheim? Anyway i m glad Aqua Minerali is also there. Spa and Monza make my hair stand up lol. Great work!
Grand valley speedway or trial mountain
Pouhon, 130R and Eau Rouge back to back... :o
They need Blancmont, Masta, and LaSource.
that engine sound though, miss it.. :(
It sounds fast
In the current era, mercedes would literally win all the time at this circuit.
Would be nice if F1 would get interesting again.... Like in 2012 but oh hey I guess not cuz Mercedes and Ferrari bullshit
Bring back 2000 to 2008 cars and it would be interesting
Renault wouldn't be far behind
Recommendation: add Turn 8 from the Turkey GP circuit to the map, that would be an awesome ballsy addition, great work too! :)
front right tire wouldn't last even 1 lap lol
Someone needs to map this on a driving sim, would be amazing.
beamNG.drive
Project cars, mod for f1 2016. FUCKING AWSOME
Number2 rFactor
鈴鹿を沢山使ってくれて有り難う😊
Schumachring instead of the Nurburing. Another Suggestion the Monza straight leading onto the Baku Straight followed Eau Rouge then then Hanger Straight and then 130R to finish. Full speed ahead. Average speed! 240mph. Lovely!
Don't usually like dream circuit stuff, but that was epic! Would love to drive that on a game.
The constant top speed would eat the engines tho
It might be worse than the old Hockenheim before it was neutered. Grenading engines in the forest section..........
Ich mach mal auf deutsch....
Ich finde die Auswahl und die Reihung Perfekt!
Wer braucht Überholmanöver wenn die Autos fliegen?
Überholmanöver wurden weich gewaschen und endedelt (
what about the corner before the finish line in Canada?
If only the circuit had the original tamburello in this circuit.
haha nice concept. I expecting a Rose-Hair pin corner(monaco) at some point .XD
FANTÁSTICO parabéns pelo vídeo
Amazing track... Love the Interlagos part (I'm brazilian...) hehe
Really sad to think how since this footage of Schumi in his heyday was taken, most of these corners have been either neutered by changes to kerbs and runoff, or lost from the calendar all-together.
Omg... all fast corners... it would be the most insane track ever... XD
I'd also add Tamburello + Tosa (Imola) ;)
I miss at least one overtaking point...
if project Cars 2 has ability to custom make track, making this for sure, awesome!
I really love Eau Rouge, is the turn that you really feels what is the sense of speed.
great video. But i think we dont need it. Just go to the Nordschleife.
#RIPfronttyres
Well,
Just send F1 to Bathurst and bring them back to Laguna Seca ...
I'd love to see F1 at Mt Panorama. It would be 10X better than Adelaide or Melbourne.
Now April 2018 - God bless you Michael...
The Speeds on this track
Would be over 9000!!!
Lets make that happen in rFactor, using bobs track builder. :D
Yes, if someone will make that happen, then I can hardly wait.
simple, the old Le Mans was the perfect circuit.
1:33 This is stupid! Why would you race these corners if you could do a straight line??
To make it more fun and so they can boast on how long their track is
Hardly see an overtaking opportunity at this track