A mill... and a Lathe?
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I always wished I could turn parts on my mill but alas, it's only a two axis CNC. Then I realized, just turn the head! (and make something tall to hold the tools)
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There are numerous R8 faceplates which accommodate 3 to 6 inch chucks. Clamping the cutter in your vise gives lathe abilities. People have used this in a pinch for decades.
I go to a voc school and I'm in the machine tool shop this video is really awesome and I'm gonna try to convince my related teacher to show this in class so thanks for making a cool video and cool rig
Glad you liked it!
When I subscribed to you years ago due to your crazy Portal laser logo/music videos, I never imagined you'd go on to make stuff like this, which particularly interests me as I'm about to graduate Engineering.
Nothing is more satisfying than just buttering away rusty metal and getting that amazing shiny surface.
Me either! I'm glad you stuck around to watch.
Beautiful. Now if you can make a follow rest so you can keep the end of a longer bar steady (acts like a Swiss lathe), and add the cutoff tool on a separate holder from the back, you can make a whole row of pieces from a bar without stopping.
Love the fun mindset, apparently that is lost on quite a few commenters lol. At least you are out there in the shop tinkering and learning. No better way to learn.
+Tater79bj Thanks!
"Go little end mill! ... nope." That made my day. :D
Is ' unsquareness 'a word . I love it .well done
"Yes thats a cnc project in the background, yes im using it as a table" You have my sub dear Sir!
:)
very creative of you! necessity is the mother of invention!!
Your machine works beauty full
haha my god man! you are a treat :) not everyone can do the job with your ways and lack of tools, but if it is done, hey! its well done!
thanks for sharing the video. you can have tail stock seated on the work bench and for controlling speed you can use a big stepper connected parallel to the shaft of the spindle by belt or gearbox
Oh gawd, that took balls to cut the top of that square using that cutter running on the X axis parallel to the jaw faces while it was standing tall in the vice. I would have chickened out and used an angle plate or at the very least used a Y axis cut.
Man that sure looks fun!
"Go little end mill!.... Nope."
Hahaha, you sir, have got yourself a new subscriber
the little mill that could !
Chris I will never judge but I might cry a little tear for the loss of good steel into the chip bucket
I like old fashioned, I bet not more than one or two out of ten of cnc people would have any idea how to go about doing things like you are doing in the manual way!
Very good idea. Might be missing something here but wouldn't the vice be heavy enough to carry a tool holder apparatus or fixture for the quick change holder? just asking, like I say may be missing something here. Good presentation, thank you for sharing this.
Yes, I suppose it would. :)
Oooooh that music... yeah Zircon.
lol dont judge. i like that. listen there has been times when i had to tac weld a peice of work to my mill table. sometimes we do what needs to be done in order to do what needs to be done. so thumbs up for getting it done.
Indeed cool to see, but also handy when in need of a lathe.
Great vid quality and material and nice fat mill)
Cool project
DUDE FUCKING BRILLIANT !!! BRAVO MAN YOU WIN DUDE OF THE YEAR AWARD !!!!!
wow epic ending!
A mill , a lathe and a coffee table lol
Nicely done, keep it coming....................
Yes, you can use a tailstock, by modifying an X/Y/Z table (aliexpress or something) to accept a lathe toolholder, and mount on it's side onto the mill table.
That way you'll be free to install a tilt-able worm-gear tailstock.
Hugely entertaining video.
Nice work! I like your mill!
Thanks!
bessey clamps trump the kant-twist in the application shown. fun channel to watch you I may end up subscribing later after few more videos
How in the hell you use a multiflute countersink to cut without chattering is beyond me. I won't judge you for not having those tools, but I will judge you for not having a knee drill driver adapter. You've got a lathe now, no excuses. ;)
Good work. I've lathed a few things on my mill, but usually sitting on the floor, looking up, with a bit clamped in the vise.
I've milled a couple things on my lathe....
Go little endmill! :-)
Nope.............
toolmaking looks to be very fun.
+erik61801 It really is - as a hobby. Doing it for a living is probably stressful and not nearly as enjoyable.
Very impressive.
still great machinist
if you can do that pawn you can modify the program to do treads.
That is a pretty fricken coool video
Brother I am a retired Soldier and newby I won't embarrass myself and call me a machinist but have have taken advanced machining and my thoughts are if your methods work then rock the house my friend!!
Awesome work! very interesting!
very clever! I take it your mill was cnc converted? jeepers that's a big block of 6061!
Awesome video!
Have you ever thought of adding a third axis to the machine?
If the steel turns black, it means it's getting REALLY hot.
If you want a tailstock - just use the other side of the tool holder! Put a chuck there, you've got an insane travel anyway.
That's what I was going to say! Just put a Morse taper quick change tool holder on the other side of the tool post. Sweet! Also you have a VFD on the spindle motor, don't you? I mean you do power tapping, right? So I don't understand why you wouldn't be able to calibrate it to handle threading. Like faster and easier threading setup than most any QCGB leadscrew lathe.
+Spirit Thanks! I haven't thought about it, really. I need to get the mini VMC project finished up and then this mill will be manual use (maybe 2D CAM) only.
I don't follow in the tailstock idea...
+Jon Miller Let me think... I suppose I could set up the CAM for threading and get the spindle RPM from there. Then I'd need to get a tachometer for the spindle and manually adjust the speed until it matched what was in the CAM. Hmm.. I'll give that some more thought. Sounds like it could be done - I just meant the machine couldn't handle threading by itself.
That makes sense. I actually find this idea rather exciting. I have room in my tiny shop for a mill or a lathe. I've looked at the Smithys and others like those but it's such a compromise. Your setup has the potential for a compromise worth making, at least to me.
Chris DePrisco You can either put the chuck(for the "tailstock") inside the block and move the knee up when you want to do the work(make the chuck removable), or just mount it on the opposite side of where the tool points, so that you can move forward in the Y axis and switch to the chuck/collet.
2 dowels and one screw is not enough to get an accurate positioning, use 2 dowels on one side and the other dowel on the other side and you have a good defined position
Hey man that was cool! I often thought about making a "Smithy" out of my old Bridgeport cause I haven't the space for a lathe.
I always envied my dad having a ShopSmith for his woodworking projects and wished I had the same for metal work.
I know there are 3 in 1's like the Smithy for we chip makers, but I'm not making watches or doll houses.
What you've done would certainly get me through the kinds of things I usually run into, heavier work for hot rods and motorcycles etc.
Excellent work, mate! About how long did that project take?
Thanks for sharing that video with us!
Peace.
This is the first of your videos I've seen, nice project. The clamping of the upright piece did look a little sketchy, not that I've ever done anything that wasn't completely OSHA compliant! Lmao
nicely done. Congrat !
Why you threw in shaving you lower, it is possible to cut off ?
Wonderful well made!
So, ever get a band saw?
It's so much fun to judge😉
That is so cool! How much did you pay for your mill if you don't mind me asking?
+ViperishTiger Let's just say it was sitting idle at work for over a year and they were considering scrapping it. ;)
I have a smithy Midas 3 in 1 and a lablond lathe from 1928 and a Bridgeport M head that I'm trying to rebuild but need to find parts. I want to retrofit the smithy drill mill lathe with a CNC kit but really need some guidance
great idea.
"Square things...squarer"
One of them fancy 3.5 flute endmills huh
I'm sorry, You have Fusion 360 for this mill?! Are you a professional or a hobbyist enthusiast?
love watching your vids bro
really nice job man
No need to control spindle speed
You can mount optical sensor to spindle to read RPM from it, and use that signal for threading (at least LinuxCNC can adjust axis speed with readings from spindle)
Interesting... I don't think the Anilam controller will do that but that's neat to hear. I bought a tachometer for the spindle which I still need to install, then I can hopefully manually dial in the speed I set up in the CAM.
nice work man --really cool!!
+bcstrings1 Thanks!
Was that an actual edge mill or did you abuse that poor end mill?
I love it , Great idea man !!
hi, sorry my question is not about your awsome project (because u already recorded that very detailed.. especially, pins was not fitting becouse of air presseure :) ) that is my question: did u cover your wall with soundprofing material? could you explain a bit.
The walls are just covered in standard insulation with a paper backing, although it does help with sound.
Thanks for answer.. i have also a workshop in my apartmen but, i have many trouble with vibration and sund :(.. i need to move somewhere else, before my neighbour kills me :/
congratulations!
What is that thing at 1:57? I have seen it before but couldn't find the actual purpose of it
It's an edge finder. I don't know exactly why they work but it tells you when you are a specific distance from the edge of your part.
+Chris DePrisco I see. Thank you. Please continue your wonderful work :)
There is a distinct difference between Why and How !!!.......The reference made here is for ...How ?
Hey man you could always make some extended jaws for your mill or buy the off of mister jaws .just thinking, love your video.
4:15 no. but the oil on the steel would turn black.
i think what all machinists need is a small forge. then there would have no excuse for not owning a set of transfer punches... or a wide variety of other tools.
I'm judging you so hard! Haha, slick project though, who needs to power cut threads anyway?
This is your Lagun CNC mill, what model is it?
+Paul Gdry It is a FTV-2 with Anilam 3200mk CNC controls (2 axis only).
I have done this before but just put the right angle head up and use that for a spindle.
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Hey Chris what area of the country do you live. Bill
Northeast Indiana.
Skills!
brother I love your work you obviously know your machining however we both know if you have up and down , left and right as well as front to back you have 3 axis so no disrespect from this this old Soldier but ??? now understand i am a newbie who just finished Advanced machining and CNC at my local college and love it after 25yrs in the Army but I'm curious why you say you only have 2 axis?
The Z doesn't have a motor. I can move in 3 axis of course but it can only move in X and Y automatically.
I see. Well you know that no disrespect meant right? And I would love to speak with you reference help with a tail stock for a LeBlond Regal lathe if you would not mind.
Absolutely, I appreciate that. :P
Unfortunately I don't know the first thing about LeBlond lathes (or really any lathes) so I don't think I can be much help to you there!
Chris DePrisco well its as simple I believe as the tailstock you just made and seeing as you made one you are way ahead of me lol. im in the need of a tailstock for a 13" lathe I have the original but im thinking the person who owned before me had no respect for his tools as there was a cheap weld done and not very well. I am curious if maybe you might be able to cast anouther upper portion of the tailstock with info provided.
Why not keeping the spindle vertical and move the tool with Z and X?
Because the Z is not CNC controlled.
Neat, but a lot of work for two pawns.
+James Lamb Those were just some models I downloaded to see if the thing worked! :)
+James Lamb vk.com/id275094966?z=photo275094966_403449438%2Fwall275094966_622 ?????
Agent of Death, this link no longer shows Pic unfortunately.
John, Australia.
yes but better then two pawns for a lot of work
I think with just 2 pawns he won the game!
What is the milling machine your useing?
awesome!
AWESOME!
Often use a HSS steel tool bit in the vice to modify small parts in a hurry eg making flat ends on grub screws mods to cap screw heads etc there always seems to be odd modified parts in tool making and that's what has broken
Hey man!
Nice video!
Can you give me the names of your cnc machines mill and turn?
Looks like a Bridgport.
Is it me or does the music sound like the arcade game "Spy Hunter"?
chris nice work.
+Robert Kutz Thanks!
Great thanks
So it's a cnc lathe to?
Up voted for "Laser eye ball" comment!
What type of controller panel do you use
you sound like This Old Tony, are you his younger brother?
Very nice work! New subscriber here... Gimme a chair!
+malibuu6969 Glad to have you along! Stay tuned, there is some neat stuff coming soon... :D
Love it!!
The machinist comment only meant I don't see myself as skilled enough to call myself that lol
A more througher look at the finished item please.
no, precision would mean it fits all 8 ways.
hehe cool project man
Interesting concept but with all the material and work you could have had a second hand lathe and convert it to CNC.
Dave
no
is it imachining passes at 5:01 ?
Those are just the Adaptive Clearing passes from Fusion 360.
yeah thumbs up - I don't really understand the config of the finished product though - ending was too quick and up too close
ok wait got it - vertical lathing... pawn was 90 degreed vidya
I hade the same idea : D
I judge you are a craftsman. Nice video.
Thanks!
great !!!!