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for meta purposes Topaz is the choice but I find March 7th to just feel and look better to play with Feixaio despite not giving her as big of a buff. seeing March and Feixaio attack the same enemy 4 times every Feixaio turn is very satisfying over having to attack the enemy Topaz marked to have numby attack it as well and her ultimate not doing an attack to give Feixaio another stack for her ultimate is a bit bad.
@@ARNAUDPERLEMOINE they literally didnt even read the first line of text i typed. Then tried to explain why topaz was the best even though I already said I know she's the best for feixaio. No mercy for people who can't read.
4:23 I tested it with bronya since she has over 100% crit chance with passive. 1.5k without prey, 1.9k with prey. If u have his e2 in battle the wording is *"When allied targets attack the enemy marked as "prey", the CRIT DMG dealt increases by 40%"*
Funny thing actually, i pulled fexiao BECAUSE of topaz. My topaz was benches ever since her first banner and now she's getting the attention she deserves.
Easy answer is no. This is coming from a e0s1 Topaz user as well. I have pretty much became a heavily FuA archetype roster so I can safely say, Topaz has been a great investment to support characters that use FuA mechanics. The thing is, as great Topaz is, Moze and March is perfectly fine to charge Feixiao's Ult. If you do not want to invest in Topaz, you are better off getting her Light Cone instead which works wonderfully on any character.
I think you kinda defeated your own argument because Moze and March being fine doesn't change that Topaz is a great investment. So, I disagree. The easy answer is yes.
@@Mystra That's not the point. The point is why would someone invest into Topaz when Moze already does everything you need him to in a Feixiao team? For most F2Ps you have to look at every single character and what they do to pinpoint exactly who you should and shouldn't pull for so that you can invest into characters that are more useful. Topaz is definitely better than Moze but why should someone get Topaz when they can use Moze? You should only get her when you're trying to mixman your Feixiao team.
@mooseoncaffeine I mean Moze doesn't do that imo, first you need him E6 to do comparable damage. And his ult generation for Feixiao is slower than Topaz. I would agree that he does alot of the things you need for Feixiao but not everything though. As for your question, the answer is because she's better. It's not the same but hear me out because the concept is the same. Why get Robin if you have Ruan Mei right? Ruan Mei works fine for Feixiao team. The thing is, Robin is better for it Like we can say this about almost every unit, why get Feixiao in the first place, Dr Ratio is fine. Well the point is to go for the best teams in my opinion. If you can't afford it, sure March and Moze are solid options. But I don't think deliberately skipping Topaz when you can get her is the move.
@@Mystra I don't think videos like this are really for people with limitless resources. Which is why the question isn't, is Topaz better, it's should you pull for her, which is very nuanced based on your account. Really the answer is that she is the last priority on the team and it depends entirely on the state/needs of your other teams on if her improvement is notable enough to take resources that may be used to strengthen those teams instead. Topaz is very unique in how strong her 4 star alternatives are. A lot more realistic then just assuming someone has another limited 5 star and that the limited 5 star isn't being used in another team(Like you did with Ruan Mei vs Robin).
One perk about Topaz’s value most players fail to mention is that unlike Xueyi, Hunt March, Moze, etc, Topaz can still do damage & gain energy while debuffed/cc/dazed thx to Numby. Moze can still be debuffed on his off turn if his skill isn’t activated after his stacks end. This might play into her being a summon character in the future meta getting dmg outside her turn. Cant wait to roll for her.
Hunt March 7th feels so good from a satisfaction point of view compared to the other two I really wanna see Lingsha at her full potential (crit hybrid?) in a Feixiao comp tho... That'll be interesting to see.
While March and Moze are the free options and have their benefits as well, there is a reason Topaz is the premium option. Its more or less the amount of turns Numby takes and her supportive capabilities. Although she is the most replaceable because of the other options available. Is she needed? Nah, but if you do have her then yeah she is a good in between March and Moze that can support and deal out pretty decent damage for a sub dps
I think after watching this i can resist the urge to pull for Topaz. Currently running Fei, M7H, Robin, and Lingsha. I think the move is to keep running this, and save for Aventurine in the latter half of 2.6 so I have 2 awesome sustains.
Yeah, according to some tests run on the creator's server, I'm pretty sure moze's e2 is a team wide crit damage increase if they attack the enemy marked as "prey". So I'd say that, having him at e6 is probably better than an e0s0 topaz
Actually topaz still clears faster. If you watch the gameplay it's pretty evident. But yes, he is so good and you absolutely do not need her at all. Thanks for the info btw!
@Ananta9817 Now with this info, since he gives feixiao a slightly better buff, it'd come down to their personal damage. I believe Moze loses a lot of his personal damage without E4 and E6, so building March may be slightly better. Especially since the "she can attack smaller targets while feixiao focuses on the bigger enemies" is still true. She's cuter too
@@mooseoncaffeine It depends on a team and tuning. Based on my testing on E6 Moze is similar or better then Topaz. Especially cause I use Yunli as pseudo sustain and Moze disappearing helps with aggro. I'd say that meta-wise if you are not going for Topaz E1 you can stick with Moze
One thing that I haven't seen people mention is that some endgame modes sometimes have buffs that work together with ult damage, and since topaz doesn't do ult damage they miss out on that. Personally I'm going with Feixiao, robin, aventurine, march
Well, I've realized that I don't need to watch this anymore since I lost to Yanqing. I just wanna disappear among the sea of butterflies right now, you know?
Yep, most people won't have E6 Moze, so unless you have that you should either pull Topaz or use March 7th since she's a free e6. If I was building a Feixiao team I'd use March and pull for Lingsha instead because I don't have Aventurine. but I don't have feixiao either so I'm just a preacher not a practicer here
@mooseoncaffeine Sounds good! But I'd like to point that with how soon Robin rerun, Aventurine and Acheron shouldn't be far behind. I personally think Aventurine is better for this team than Lingsha. I like Linghsa too but I really don't like she only cleanse 1 cc at a time from party members, vs Aventurine can make it so no cc apply to you at all, granted with some rng
what do i do if have both D: completely conflicted on whether to give topaz to ratio or topaz to feixiao like which one benefits more with topaz? can e6 march work with ratio?
@darknessrises948 You're planning on running 2 follow up teams or 1? If just 1, Topaz + Feixiao is better because more damage and faster ultimate stacks. If running 2, we'll Dr Ratio needs debuffs so yeah he will need Topaz. But imo you should only run 1 follow up team because the game is more fun with some versatility imo. For example FuA on team 1, Break on team 2 is a nice combo. But up to you ofc :)
In my personal experience, currently as the banner is running for topaz I do think she is a good character for Her but I’m putting all my Pulls into lingsha mostly due to the fact that I don’t really have a good Fire character in her healing is nuts
Awesome video man. Also I have the best e0 s0 Dr ratio in Europe Soo and I just finished building my march 7th and I was thinking about building moze if I lose my 50 50 on robin ( praying I win ). Also i might just get e1 s1 acharon if I don't get a 5 star do you think it's worth it?
@8lolbit59 yeah I'd say it's worth it but only if you go for E2 acheron as well. Praying you win that Robin too 🙏but I believe building Moze is useful either way.
@@mooseoncaffeine yeah but I I am so dry on materials I have nothing so prob just going to save some stuff for robin also there are some character that i would call backbones of team archetype like Kafka Topaz Harmony mc and I think these characters are the most interesting type of character and I think a you should definitely make a video abt them
Pulled Topaz when she first came out be because she's hot. Missed Robin the first time, grabbed Robin on gaurentee from failing Yunli (was on the verge of hitting but I stopped when I saw Fei was coming) and then I instantly failed my 50/50 which allowed me to dump the rest of my pulls in for a gaurenteed Fei. Gonna fish for E1 Robin...wish I could use my gaurenteed LC on Fei, but I gotta save for Acheron's LC because that shit is stupid.
I have E0S0 Feixiao, E0S0 Robin, E0S0 Aventurine, E6 Hunt March 7th, and E3 Moze. I don't have Topaz. All have +15 relic and planar sets. Except for Moze, whom I'm in the process of getting to Lv. 80, all are Lv. 80. Robin and Aventurine's traces are fully leveled up. I plan to pull for Robin to get her to E1, like my Ruan Mei and Black Swan are. So Moze may end up in a couple of weeks at E4+.
@Enkadia if you have E6 Moze I would go for E1 Robin. If you don't have E6 Moze I'd go for Topaz. However if you don't have Aventurine i would go for Lingsha instead.
I can get FeiXiao on my alt account but I need to do so many missions and past events . Probably not gonna get her 😂😂. What are your thoughts on alt account’s? I tried and it just burns me out replaying the whole story again.
Good luck. I have two accounts, a main account and a Destruction Only account for challenge content. I personally love alt accounts but I also had a Hunt Only account for a while until it truly became too much. 2 is probably the limit. They're really good for trying to get everyone without spending. You're just spending your time instead.
@@mooseoncaffeineThat’s exactly why I built that 2nd account for that intended purpose but I do not have the time and patience to do it all over again. You are pretty dedicated to this game. Glad you enjoy it as much .
As for Moze's E2: If I understand it correctly, it's like this: When allies attack an enemy marked as "Prey", the damage is calculated as if they had 40% more crit damage. If an ally has 160% crit damage, it would calculate damage as if they had 200% crit damage, but that ally doesn't get the 40% crit damage. Hope it helps, and that I didn''t confuse ppl
ohh thank you, I thought the allies will carry the 40% Cdmg through the whole battle after they just attacked the prey lol I was like "that's fckin OP" lmao I'm glad you cleared this up
If you have E4+ Moze, then don't get Topaz. She's only better than E4+ Moze if she has her lightcone. If you don't, then getting her would give you a small upgrade.
I accidentally got e1 topaz and e1 feixiao by luck in a single 10 pull on their banners, that e1 crit dmg from topaz is fricking insane as it also helps dr.ratio guarantee his chalk throws
My problem is that i don't have aventurine, every team has either aventurine moze or march or whatever, i already have feixiao, topaz and robin but no aventurine, i have gepard e1 so can i use gepard instead or should i throw my account out the trash because no one goes into depth in that and its killing me
I have e2 s1 topaz and she's incredible i cant imagine a followup team without her. I pulled topaz on her debut banner, its one of the best decisions ive made in star rail she aged like a fine wine
I have a question why not just bring Robin over march? March does boost Feixiao's dmg but if you talk about overall dmg wouldn't robin be better as she buff feixiao and topaz? (This is for the Fei, Topaz, March, Sustain comp)
In Less than one multi i got my next 5 stars (lost my previous 50/50) so i am guaranted to get the unit BUT, i need an advice Should i go For E1 Robin or Topaz E0S0 perhaps E1S1 Or E1 Feixiao ? I heard that Topaz is good but don't deserve 75 pulls or a garanted for her I think that E1 Robin would be the better choice but need some clarification What do you think ?
@PimpJimmy Just like Yunli and Clara, fun double dps situation. Unless you have E1, then it can be pretty good. I don't know if it's better than Topaz though.
Apparently it does apply that 40% CDMG to everyone. However I still think March is better than E2 Moze because of 2 reasons. One is that she can attack secondary smaller targets while Feixiao attacks the larger elite enemies, while Moze needs to have his Prey on the enemy Feixiao is targetting. Two is that at E2 I doubt Moze's personal damage is more than March's. You can really do more than 300k-400k with March around twice a cycle with the right team and build, and I'm pretty sure only E6 Moze can beat that, unless I'm proven wrong.
@@mooseoncaffeine I have not tested like you, but it seems like Moze also raises the personal damages of Aventurine and Robin with his E2. Better synergy teamwide. Correct me if I am wrong though.
@tyshadonyxs2008 Robin's damage instances from her ult are set at 150 Crit DMG so you can't increase them. It does do it for Aventurine though but it's only reliable single target since Aventurines FUA is bounce, and his damage is negligible compared to Feixiao.
@mooseoncaffeine ypu are right, I forgot about Robin's set dmg and Moze's prey mechanic. I will still go ahead with Moze as it will refresh Aven shield stacks more times than M7 and keep Feixiao happy at same time. Thanks for the reply!
@@mooseoncaffeine I’m out of everything lol. My plan is now to save until the FATE collaboration. Who knows how many units they will release id like to E6 them all
@@JLJ1234 same😭😭 I got a beautiful looking relic for fx with cr and cd and it completely avoided them both I’ve already used up all my saved up energy but I’m loving this team sm especially because I’m coming from using qq as my dps
With Moze on E2, both of their support capabilities for Feixiao is already on par in terms of support. In my Opinion, from this point you should considering which one can do more damage because their support kit is already on the same level. I think using March E6 is better because she can deal more damage than of E2 Moze.
March is significantly more versatile in terms of content. Moze falls off massively in multi target. The stronger your Feixiao gets the worse Moze gets because if Feixiao is killing too fast he has to constantly dispel his Prey mark.
I honestly think they're like 100% the same in this situation, so largely depends on enemy weaknesses. Also Moze is completely skill point neutral because of one of his traces that creates an extra skill point. March however is literally the most skill point positive character in the game, and she's easier to use imo. Moze does more FUAs though.
Yeah that's pretty much the conclusion i came to. I wanted to get a fua team soon and Feixiao was perfect for it, as well as Robin and later Topaz rerunning. While pulling both Robin and Feixiao, i actually was able to get Moze to E6, looked at everything he does again and was like "Isn't he pretty much on par with Topaz?" and yes, i would say so, maybe better in certain cases. As i'm one of the few people having Ratios LC, which seems to be overall better than Feixiaos if you can keep up all the effects, and Moze inflicting 2 debuffs compared to Topaz with 1, he does a better and more comfortable job at this. Hell, with Topaz LC, he can keep up Ratios LC buff alone with inflicting 3 debuffs now, while dealing incredible damage for a 4 star unit, which is even more boosted by one of his traces allowing him to go with atk% boots no problem, instead of the usual speed boots (and everything he does looks a lot cooler than what Topaz does). Moze has replaced the need for Topaz completly and i love it. Except if you're one of the mentally ill people doing everything they can for meaningless fastest MoC clears
"Do you need her?" Like why? Why? WHY? Why do people do this? I mean, if you pulled for Fei, most likely you also have at least E2 Moze already. Just build that guy and you're good to go. No need to pressure yourself to pull for another limited character when you have a sufficient 4-star alternative already. Their performance and value for Fei is literally super close.
That's literally why I made this video, to inform people you don't need Topaz and that she's just a luxury unit if you want to minmax your feixiao team.
@@max_mojo4917 If you are at 0 pity and have enough pulls to burn, then try your luck. Personally, I go with 40 pulls (I consider it as early), so that even if I lose, at least it was early and now I have a guarantee. If I fail to get that character within 40 pulls, I'll save my remaining pulls and wait for future units and use some alternatives I have instead. If I lose my 50/50... it's fine... it's early... it is what it is... and if I still have remaining pulls, then I'll try my luck and see if I can get another early. At least now it's guaranteed.
"if you pulled for Fei, most likely you also have at least E2 Moze already". Sir, f you. Sincerly f you for assuming I even get a single copy of Moze from Feixiao banner.
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My e4 moze managed to 0cycle moc with Feixiao, care to explain?🤭
for meta purposes Topaz is the choice but I find March 7th to just feel and look better to play with Feixaio despite not giving her as big of a buff. seeing March and Feixaio attack the same enemy 4 times every Feixaio turn is very satisfying over having to attack the enemy Topaz marked to have numby attack it as well and her ultimate not doing an attack to give Feixaio another stack for her ultimate is a bit bad.
Yep, march is super satisfying to play. By far my favourite character gameplay, design, and lore wise.
Guoba Cert tested stack accumulation and Topaz is thr highest, Moze is the second highest, and March had the lowest stack generation.
@@Osprey1994 cool no one asked what that drama cc said. now read where I said March just feels better to play.
Why so angry ?? 😂@@Gilgamesh-em6ru
@@ARNAUDPERLEMOINE they literally didnt even read the first line of text i typed. Then tried to explain why topaz was the best even though I already said I know she's the best for feixaio.
No mercy for people who can't read.
4:23 I tested it with bronya since she has over 100% crit chance with passive. 1.5k without prey, 1.9k with prey. If u have his e2 in battle the wording is *"When allied targets attack the enemy marked as "prey", the CRIT DMG dealt increases by 40%"*
Funny thing actually, i pulled fexiao BECAUSE of topaz. My topaz was benches ever since her first banner and now she's getting the attention she deserves.
🫡 true dedication to a character
You didn’t play her with Ratio?
@@benoitgarin6477 nah, he's not built. I stopped playing for a while after I got him
thats what im going to do once aventurine reruns, i wish i had ratio to go along with her but the pc i used to play honkai was broken until now
Same tbh. I have had Topaz since her first rerun and I had her benched, but now I'm finally using her with Feixiao and she is delivering.
I am a clara main since day 1 and pulled E0S1 topaz on release. As more follow-up dps get released, topaz gets better and better.
Indeed. Insane character.
Those who said she sucked were on some cope.
A fellow Clara main! Just got Robin, If I lose to Fei then might have to pull for Topaz.
@@DESTROYEROFGOD5I am also Clara main does can Clara be alternative option instead of topaz with fexion
@@agastya5128 hmm I don't think so.. it's dual dps for sure but Clara doesn't buff Fx in anyway, also Clara is pretty slow. You can use m7 for feixiao
@@DESTROYEROFGOD5 got it
Easy answer is no. This is coming from a e0s1 Topaz user as well.
I have pretty much became a heavily FuA archetype roster so I can safely say, Topaz has been a great investment to support characters that use FuA mechanics.
The thing is, as great Topaz is, Moze and March is perfectly fine to charge Feixiao's Ult.
If you do not want to invest in Topaz, you are better off getting her Light Cone instead which works wonderfully on any character.
@@endwarAH80blackfoot yep! that's the exact conclusion of the video.
Thanks for your comment!
I think you kinda defeated your own argument because Moze and March being fine doesn't change that Topaz is a great investment. So, I disagree. The easy answer is yes.
@@Mystra That's not the point. The point is why would someone invest into Topaz when Moze already does everything you need him to in a Feixiao team?
For most F2Ps you have to look at every single character and what they do to pinpoint exactly who you should and shouldn't pull for so that you can invest into characters that are more useful.
Topaz is definitely better than Moze but why should someone get Topaz when they can use Moze? You should only get her when you're trying to mixman your Feixiao team.
@mooseoncaffeine I mean Moze doesn't do that imo, first you need him E6 to do comparable damage. And his ult generation for Feixiao is slower than Topaz. I would agree that he does alot of the things you need for Feixiao but not everything though. As for your question, the answer is because she's better.
It's not the same but hear me out because the concept is the same. Why get Robin if you have Ruan Mei right? Ruan Mei works fine for Feixiao team. The thing is, Robin is better for it
Like we can say this about almost every unit, why get Feixiao in the first place, Dr Ratio is fine. Well the point is to go for the best teams in my opinion. If you can't afford it, sure March and Moze are solid options. But I don't think deliberately skipping Topaz when you can get her is the move.
@@Mystra I don't think videos like this are really for people with limitless resources. Which is why the question isn't, is Topaz better, it's should you pull for her, which is very nuanced based on your account. Really the answer is that she is the last priority on the team and it depends entirely on the state/needs of your other teams on if her improvement is notable enough to take resources that may be used to strengthen those teams instead.
Topaz is very unique in how strong her 4 star alternatives are. A lot more realistic then just assuming someone has another limited 5 star and that the limited 5 star isn't being used in another team(Like you did with Ruan Mei vs Robin).
One perk about Topaz’s value most players fail to mention is that unlike Xueyi, Hunt March, Moze, etc, Topaz can still do damage & gain energy while debuffed/cc/dazed thx to Numby. Moze can still be debuffed on his off turn if his skill isn’t activated after his stacks end. This might play into her being a summon character in the future meta getting dmg outside her turn. Cant wait to roll for her.
Here is the summarized ver.
Should you pull for Topaz for Feixiao?
PULL ROBIN FIRST
E1TOPAZ > MARCH > E0 TOPAZ
Hunt March 7th feels so good from a satisfaction point of view compared to the other two
I really wanna see Lingsha at her full potential (crit hybrid?) in a Feixiao comp tho... That'll be interesting to see.
@@Heliotropic95 oo sounds pretty cool. Good luck on your pulls! Make it happen
@@mooseoncaffeine already done with my pulls... ~167 spent in total and walked away with E0 S1 Feixiao, E0 S0 Robin and E4 Moze
Thanks for the video! Really appreciate how fast you got it out. Keep up the good work! 👍
@ris8961 Glad you liked it! Thank you!
While March and Moze are the free options and have their benefits as well, there is a reason Topaz is the premium option. Its more or less the amount of turns Numby takes and her supportive capabilities. Although she is the most replaceable because of the other options available. Is she needed? Nah, but if you do have her then yeah she is a good in between March and Moze that can support and deal out pretty decent damage for a sub dps
I think after watching this i can resist the urge to pull for Topaz. Currently running Fei, M7H, Robin, and Lingsha. I think the move is to keep running this, and save for Aventurine in the latter half of 2.6 so I have 2 awesome sustains.
Yeah, according to some tests run on the creator's server, I'm pretty sure moze's e2 is a team wide crit damage increase if they attack the enemy marked as "prey". So I'd say that, having him at e6 is probably better than an e0s0 topaz
Actually topaz still clears faster. If you watch the gameplay it's pretty evident.
But yes, he is so good and you absolutely do not need her at all.
Thanks for the info btw!
Is he worth building at e2 over e6 March 7th?
@Ananta9817 Now with this info, since he gives feixiao a slightly better buff, it'd come down to their personal damage. I believe Moze loses a lot of his personal damage without E4 and E6, so building March may be slightly better.
Especially since the "she can attack smaller targets while feixiao focuses on the bigger enemies" is still true.
She's cuter too
@@mooseoncaffeine It depends on a team and tuning. Based on my testing on E6 Moze is similar or better then Topaz. Especially cause I use Yunli as pseudo sustain and Moze disappearing helps with aggro. I'd say that meta-wise if you are not going for Topaz E1 you can stick with Moze
How many people that go for E0S1 Feixiao will have E6 Moze? I got E0S1 Feixiao and E1S1 Robin in this patch and still only got E1 Moze.
I pulled topaz specifically cos i thought she would become more valuable as more follow up charas came out, and im glad i did.
One thing that I haven't seen people mention is that some endgame modes sometimes have buffs that work together with ult damage, and since topaz doesn't do ult damage they miss out on that. Personally I'm going with Feixiao, robin, aventurine, march
Me using all three of this characters in the same team with her😂
Same.just.cause I want to test some things
Yeah topaz is so strong you can get away with everything. 😭
Very viable too but I think I rather want Aventurine and Robin on the team than Moze and March
Actually as a f2p, I can still afford the whale team (since only aventurine is the only one i dont have and WILL have) or Im just lucky with pulls
Well, I've realized that I don't need to watch this anymore since I lost to Yanqing. I just wanna disappear among the sea of butterflies right now, you know?
oh no..
Getting E1S2 Topaz was definitely a good decision
@@TheRealKitty103 why e1s2 why not e2s1
@@mooseoncaffeine Topaz's E2 is only 5 extra energy when Numby attacks not really a gamechanger imo
@TheRealKitty103 I see, good point.
Could've used that ~70 pulls on something other than a superimpostion though
Unless you got it in like 20
@@mooseoncaffeine I got extremely lucky with Topaz and Robin
Honestly if you already have jade she's absolutely fantastic with feixao as a followup dps, plus she is aoe.
If you have Feixiao or Dr Ratio, Absolutely imo! Topaz is so cool too. Get E0S1 if you can :) My Moze is only E1 I think most won't have E6
Yep, most people won't have E6 Moze, so unless you have that you should either pull Topaz or use March 7th since she's a free e6.
If I was building a Feixiao team I'd use March and pull for Lingsha instead because I don't have Aventurine.
but I don't have feixiao either so I'm just a preacher not a practicer here
@mooseoncaffeine Sounds good! But I'd like to point that with how soon Robin rerun, Aventurine and Acheron shouldn't be far behind. I personally think Aventurine is better for this team than Lingsha. I like Linghsa too but I really don't like she only cleanse 1 cc at a time from party members, vs Aventurine can make it so no cc apply to you at all, granted with some rng
what do i do if have both D:
completely conflicted on whether to give topaz to ratio or topaz to feixiao like which one benefits more with topaz? can e6 march work with ratio?
@darknessrises948 You're planning on running 2 follow up teams or 1? If just 1, Topaz + Feixiao is better because more damage and faster ultimate stacks. If running 2, we'll Dr Ratio needs debuffs so yeah he will need Topaz.
But imo you should only run 1 follow up team because the game is more fun with some versatility imo. For example FuA on team 1, Break on team 2 is a nice combo. But up to you ofc :)
@@Mystra unfortunately lost my 50/50 on firefly which is why I have Feixiao rn
In my personal experience, currently as the banner is running for topaz I do think she is a good character for Her but I’m putting all my Pulls into lingsha mostly due to the fact that I don’t really have a good Fire character in her healing is nuts
Awesome video man. Also I have the best e0 s0 Dr ratio in Europe Soo and I just finished building my march 7th and I was thinking about building moze if I lose my 50 50 on robin ( praying I win ). Also i might just get e1 s1 acharon if I don't get a 5 star do you think it's worth it?
@8lolbit59 yeah I'd say it's worth it but only if you go for E2 acheron as well.
Praying you win that Robin too 🙏but I believe building Moze is useful either way.
@@mooseoncaffeine yeah but I I am so dry on materials I have nothing so prob just going to save some stuff for robin also there are some character that i would call backbones of team archetype like Kafka Topaz Harmony mc and I think these characters are the most interesting type of character and I think a you should definitely make a video abt them
I have e4 moze and maxed out march no topaz but man I just love moze to much he just looks to cool and I love his voice lines im sticking with him
Pulled Topaz when she first came out be because she's hot. Missed Robin the first time, grabbed Robin on gaurentee from failing Yunli (was on the verge of hitting but I stopped when I saw Fei was coming) and then I instantly failed my 50/50 which allowed me to dump the rest of my pulls in for a gaurenteed Fei.
Gonna fish for E1 Robin...wish I could use my gaurenteed LC on Fei, but I gotta save for Acheron's LC because that shit is stupid.
I have E0S0 Feixiao, E0S0 Robin, E0S0 Aventurine, E6 Hunt March 7th, and E3 Moze. I don't have Topaz. All have +15 relic and planar sets. Except for Moze, whom I'm in the process of getting to Lv. 80, all are Lv. 80. Robin and Aventurine's traces are fully leveled up. I plan to pull for Robin to get her to E1, like my Ruan Mei and Black Swan are. So Moze may end up in a couple of weeks at E4+.
Which is better Topaz E0 or robin E1 for Feixiao since the pull costs are the same if you already have robin?
@Enkadia if you have E6 Moze I would go for E1 Robin. If you don't have E6 Moze I'd go for Topaz. However if you don't have Aventurine i would go for Lingsha instead.
@@mooseoncaffeine aventurine is supposedly going to have a rerun in 2.6 so it might better to hold off pulling lingsha for a feixiao team just in case
E6 March carries no topaz needed. I got a 36 clear on MOC just using Feixiao, E6 Hunt March, sparkle and E6 Gallagher.
Yep, topaz is very powerful. Hunt March is too.
Love it when your favourite character gets meta love.
As a 2.4 joiner, I don’t think I will. Feixiao works beautifully with Hunt 7th and Moze already so I think I’m gonna aim for Rappa next.
I can get FeiXiao on my alt account but I need to do so many missions and past events . Probably not gonna get her 😂😂.
What are your thoughts on alt account’s? I tried and it just burns me out replaying the whole story again.
Good luck.
I have two accounts, a main account and a Destruction Only account for challenge content. I personally love alt accounts but I also had a Hunt Only account for a while until it truly became too much. 2 is probably the limit.
They're really good for trying to get everyone without spending. You're just spending your time instead.
@@mooseoncaffeineThat’s exactly why I built that 2nd account for that intended purpose but I do not have the time and patience to do it all over again.
You are pretty dedicated to this game. Glad you enjoy it as much .
As for Moze's E2: If I understand it correctly, it's like this:
When allies attack an enemy marked as "Prey", the damage is calculated as if they had 40% more crit damage. If an ally has 160% crit damage, it would calculate damage as if they had 200% crit damage, but that ally doesn't get the 40% crit damage.
Hope it helps, and that I didn''t confuse ppl
ohh thank you, I thought the allies will carry the 40% Cdmg through the whole battle after they just attacked the prey lol I was like "that's fckin OP" lmao I'm glad you cleared this up
I started in 1.4 and happened to get her cuz she was hot😭so glad I have her now realizing her worth lol
I did not manage to pull jingliu, so i went for e1s1 Topaz, many argued topaz damage. By this time of writimg, she never left any of my team
Unfortunately another Jiaoqiu Situation 😅.
And Thanks for your effort ❤.
I already got robin and feixiao. Should i get robins lightcone or topaz for feixiao?
If you have E4+ Moze, then don't get Topaz. She's only better than E4+ Moze if she has her lightcone. If you don't, then getting her would give you a small upgrade.
I accidentally got e1 topaz and e1 feixiao by luck in a single 10 pull on their banners, that e1 crit dmg from topaz is fricking insane as it also helps dr.ratio guarantee his chalk throws
@@Arewaaaa that's some insane luck. Ggs.
I will be honest. I have a lot of undiscovered chests and I'm going to pull for topaz strictly to open the chests
Considering my Topaz is E1S1... yeah, she wins. But Moze is cool so imma build him!
I don't have Robin but I'll probably skip her and grab Topaz instead. I never cared for fast clears and Topaz has the added bonus of finding chests :3
I use Fei Xiao with Sparle and march , and its pretty viable
My problem is that i don't have aventurine, every team has either aventurine moze or march or whatever, i already have feixiao, topaz and robin but no aventurine, i have gepard e1 so can i use gepard instead or should i throw my account out the trash because no one goes into depth in that and its killing me
You can try and get Lingsha, since she's a good replacement until you can get Aventurine.
You can definitely use Gepard until then.
I have e2 s1 topaz and she's incredible i cant imagine a followup team without her. I pulled topaz on her debut banner, its one of the best decisions ive made in star rail she aged like a fine wine
at e0s0 she’s meh she could be replaced for moze but since you have e2s1 I bet she’s nutty
At e0s0 she's just like Jiaoqiu over Pela.
A very good upgrade, but not worth 75 pulls or a guaranteed 5 star imo.
Can't imagine e2s1 damn.
Acheron exists@@mooseoncaffeine
@@Dorian-sq1mj yeah? we all know that idiot
Thanks
Oh my god thank you so much! You really shouldn't have!
I'm locking in just for you. 🫡
I use all of them with feixiao/yunli and it’s just follow up mayhem. Not practical but fun
I use feixaio in break team because I don't have Robin,topaz and aventurine.for break team I use ruan mei,hmc, March
I only have E0 Moze so I might build March. Also her being skill positive maker her comfier to use
I have a question why not just bring Robin over march? March does boost Feixiao's dmg but if you talk about overall dmg wouldn't robin be better as she buff feixiao and topaz?
(This is for the Fei, Topaz, March, Sustain comp)
@watashi_sensei2427 that comp is for those that don't have robin
In Less than one multi i got my next 5 stars (lost my previous 50/50) so i am guaranted to get the unit
BUT, i need an advice
Should i go For E1 Robin or Topaz E0S0 perhaps E1S1 Or E1 Feixiao ?
I heard that Topaz is good but don't deserve 75 pulls or a garanted for her
I think that E1 Robin would be the better choice but need some clarification
What do you think ?
Going to pull for Topaz not because she is great for Feixiao. Because she is Waifu. She looks hot 🔥 and Numby can help to find chests.
Where would jade be placed in this video?
@PimpJimmy Just like Yunli and Clara, fun double dps situation.
Unless you have E1, then it can be pretty good.
I don't know if it's better than Topaz though.
i got robin then did a random 10 pull after on feixiao’s banner and got her too 😅
I too am confused with e2 Moze... Let me know once youve find out
Apparently it does apply that 40% CDMG to everyone.
However I still think March is better than E2 Moze because of 2 reasons.
One is that she can attack secondary smaller targets while Feixiao attacks the larger elite enemies, while Moze needs to have his Prey on the enemy Feixiao is targetting.
Two is that at E2 I doubt Moze's personal damage is more than March's. You can really do more than 300k-400k with March around twice a cycle with the right team and build, and I'm pretty sure only E6 Moze can beat that, unless I'm proven wrong.
@@mooseoncaffeine I have not tested like you, but it seems like Moze also raises the personal damages of Aventurine and Robin with his E2. Better synergy teamwide. Correct me if I am wrong though.
@tyshadonyxs2008 Robin's damage instances from her ult are set at 150 Crit DMG so you can't increase them.
It does do it for Aventurine though but it's only reliable single target since Aventurines FUA is bounce, and his damage is negligible compared to Feixiao.
@mooseoncaffeine ypu are right, I forgot about Robin's set dmg and Moze's prey mechanic. I will still go ahead with Moze as it will refresh Aven shield stacks more times than M7 and keep Feixiao happy at same time. Thanks for the reply!
Is March 7th Hunt still available?
Yes she will always be free, via a trailblaze continuance mission.
@@mooseoncaffeine thank you very much. I was worried I lost her
Just won my 50/50 for robin so my current team is E0 FEIX, E0 Robin, E6 Moze, and E0 huohuo
@JLJ1234 nice! If you have any leftover jades I'd go for Lingsha for the FUAs, or keep saving for Aventurine if you don't want Lingsha.
@@mooseoncaffeine I’m out of everything lol. My plan is now to save until the FATE collaboration. Who knows how many units they will release id like to E6 them all
We have the same team😅
@@Elek-o how’s it working for you? I’m struggling to get better relics :,) lol
@@JLJ1234 same😭😭 I got a beautiful looking relic for fx with cr and cd and it completely avoided them both I’ve already used up all my saved up energy but I’m loving this team sm especially because I’m coming from using qq as my dps
whats better for feixiao . E2 moze or e6 march 7th ?
With Moze on E2, both of their support capabilities for Feixiao is already on par in terms of support.
In my Opinion, from this point you should considering which one can do more damage because their support kit is already on the same level.
I think using March E6 is better because she can deal more damage than of E2 Moze.
March is significantly more versatile in terms of content. Moze falls off massively in multi target.
The stronger your Feixiao gets the worse Moze gets because if Feixiao is killing too fast he has to constantly dispel his Prey mark.
@@td984 I see tysm
Her? Maybe not.
Her Lightcone? Hell yea
I will just use them depending on enemy weakness
Hsr is so fkin greedy this patch rerunning 4 charachters, especially 2 of them are really good with feixiao
also you need their lightcons
E5 moze or E6 march!?
depend on enemy weakness. but if you want to only build one unit then i recommend march 7 for comfort and sp positif
I honestly think they're like 100% the same in this situation, so largely depends on enemy weaknesses.
Also Moze is completely skill point neutral because of one of his traces that creates an extra skill point.
March however is literally the most skill point positive character in the game, and she's easier to use imo.
Moze does more FUAs though.
I'm the one that needs topaz not feixao😭😭😭😭
Yeah that's pretty much the conclusion i came to.
I wanted to get a fua team soon and Feixiao was perfect for it, as well as Robin and later Topaz rerunning. While pulling both Robin and Feixiao, i actually was able to get Moze to E6, looked at everything he does again and was like "Isn't he pretty much on par with Topaz?" and yes, i would say so, maybe better in certain cases. As i'm one of the few people having Ratios LC, which seems to be overall better than Feixiaos if you can keep up all the effects, and Moze inflicting 2 debuffs compared to Topaz with 1, he does a better and more comfortable job at this. Hell, with Topaz LC, he can keep up Ratios LC buff alone with inflicting 3 debuffs now, while dealing incredible damage for a 4 star unit, which is even more boosted by one of his traces allowing him to go with atk% boots no problem, instead of the usual speed boots (and everything he does looks a lot cooler than what Topaz does).
Moze has replaced the need for Topaz completly and i love it. Except if you're one of the mentally ill people doing everything they can for meaningless fastest MoC clears
March e3 or moze e6?
Moze E6>M7 E6
Moze E3 below
@@watermelon6439 thank you 🙏
@@watermelon6439 hi is there a video or link that proves this statisically? lmk when you can pls n ty
No one cares to sub.. i very rarely sub why should i when u can find your videos by typing star rail and look at videos..
@@chrisbryant2867 well imo if you like the videos it's an easy way to support for free
"Do you need her?"
Like why? Why? WHY? Why do people do this? I mean, if you pulled for Fei, most likely you also have at least E2 Moze already. Just build that guy and you're good to go. No need to pressure yourself to pull for another limited character when you have a sufficient 4-star alternative already. Their performance and value for Fei is literally super close.
That's literally why I made this video, to inform people you don't need Topaz and that she's just a luxury unit if you want to minmax your feixiao team.
But I really like Topaz 🥺
@@max_mojo4917 If you are at 0 pity and have enough pulls to burn, then try your luck. Personally, I go with 40 pulls (I consider it as early), so that even if I lose, at least it was early and now I have a guarantee.
If I fail to get that character within 40 pulls, I'll save my remaining pulls and wait for future units and use some alternatives I have instead.
If I lose my 50/50... it's fine... it's early... it is what it is... and if I still have remaining pulls, then I'll try my luck and see if I can get another early. At least now it's guaranteed.
"if you pulled for Fei, most likely you also have at least E2 Moze already". Sir, f you. Sincerly f you for assuming I even get a single copy of Moze from Feixiao banner.
Fking privelage ass mf thinking EVERYBODY who pulls feixiao guaranteed to have Moze. F you.
I js searched for this can’t believe i found it in a video uploaded at the same moment 🥲
Oh wow that means you should subscribe
same here lmao
@@mooseoncaffeine ofc!
@@mooseoncaffeine Im already am 🫡
Her? Maybe not.
Her Lightcone? Hell yea