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Destiny 2 Lore - The Next Adventures! Echoes, Revenant, Heresy & "Frontiers!" Let's talk lore!

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  • Destiny 2's Lore and Story is pivoting with the defeat of the Witness in the Final Shape! With the upcoming episodes launching, we're about to see Bungie lay the groundwork for stories in Echoes, Revenant and Heresy! 3 episodes that launch after the Final Shape. They also confirmed a new release in 2025 called "Frontiers!" This will likely see us leaving sol! Today we're going to talk about the lore and possibilities for this next year, leading up to Frontiers!
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  • @moonlitmortician6694
    @moonlitmortician6694 หลายเดือนก่อน +1056

    I hope these "vampire Scorn" are like actual Vampires that drain Ether from Eliksni and turn them into more Scorn.

    • @mrdockane1771
      @mrdockane1771 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      That would be an awesome story as to how they turn into them

    • @Brimst0ne6800
      @Brimst0ne6800 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

      give us an excuse to cosplay as bloodborne hunters and van helsing! I NEED this!

    • @MynameisByf
      @MynameisByf  หลายเดือนก่อน +318

      Dark ether corruption from their own ether converts them into Scorn... Feels totally possible.

    • @KelgorothTheFinalShape
      @KelgorothTheFinalShape หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@Brimst0ne6800a hunter must hunt

    • @Brimst0ne6800
      @Brimst0ne6800 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@KelgorothTheFinalShape and so, the hunt begins again.
      Beast all over the shop.

  • @Sta_cotto
    @Sta_cotto หลายเดือนก่อน +343

    I kinda love that Eliksni seasons can get a little goofy: we got to be cyberpunk hackers in Splicer, pirates in Plunder, now Vampire Hunters in Revenant. Just full "wouldn't it be cool if" vibes.

    • @user-ku8yi5to4f
      @user-ku8yi5to4f หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      The strange thing is that, behind the Goofy stuff are very brutal things

    • @Sta_cotto
      @Sta_cotto หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-ku8yi5to4f which honestly is the best part

    • @czesciek8775
      @czesciek8775 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      hopefully they bring back cloak of taniks 😔

    • @devilkid224
      @devilkid224 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Eliksni are my favorite enemies and my favorite allies, favorite season was Plunder cuz space pirates are my shit... Can't wait for the vampire shit

    • @xuxon24
      @xuxon24 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I hope is more splicer and less plunder, plunder wasn't a good season.

  • @akiranakahara7569
    @akiranakahara7569 หลายเดือนก่อน +548

    Honestly im excited for the fact that Nessus is remembered by Bungie and that we're getting a story involving Failsafe

    • @aq5426
      @aq5426 หลายเดือนก่อน +8


    • @Spookyy24
      @Spookyy24 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Ive missed failsafe shes so hilarious

    • @A_Gent_Agent
      @A_Gent_Agent หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      In one of the new lore pieces there's an exchange of Failsafe and Ikora - and it straight up calls out everyone for leaving it alone for so long. 😅

    • @burningbronze7555
      @burningbronze7555 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I missed failsafe

    • @deviljocky598UT
      @deviljocky598UT หลายเดือนก่อน

      I want to back it was one of my favorite places

  • @Cyrum7
    @Cyrum7 หลายเดือนก่อน +416

    Oryx coming back actually makes sense as the name of the episode is “Heresy” and there is no heresy to the hive that is lower than Necromancy

    • @AngeMaru486
      @AngeMaru486 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

      It’d be funny if Oryx becomes pissed at Xivu and/or Savathun, assuming that they brought him back from the dead, when in reality neither of them did and it was whoever has the Echo, or even the Echo itself

    • @Opalescape
      @Opalescape หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Damn nice icon, twin

    • @magetsalive5162
      @magetsalive5162 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      If it was the Echo, do we just say it was the Traveler's doing?
      "Well, it more or less worked out well with Savathun, why not?"

    • @adamherrick6077
      @adamherrick6077 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Oryx has a no resuscitation band

    • @sniperfity2327
      @sniperfity2327 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      ​@@AngeMaru486 oryx being unintentionally revived by the echo could be an awesome plot hook

  • @collinsblakely9847
    @collinsblakely9847 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Reclaiming Torobatl sounds like it could be an absolute top tier expansion, a full campaign and raid would be so COOL

    • @aljazslemc9569
      @aljazslemc9569 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Just wanna warn you that frontiers will almost certainly be a "filler expansion" im thinking something like a rise of iron or Lightfall. Just according to the pattern of how bungie has been doing things. That being said, i actually think that an expansion about Torobatl is a perfect setting for a smaller scale expansion. And it can tease something bigger. Like how Shadowkeep did

    • @Grayves_X
      @Grayves_X หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@aljazslemc9569I'd be happy if Frontier references 3 episodes if it means Destiny 3 is in the works

    • @archonthaaproducer
      @archonthaaproducer หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@aljazslemc9569 I don't think people hate the concept of filler expansions tbh. I feel like people only dislike those because the narrative took a hit because it was treated as a filler by Bungie. As long as the content is good and the narrative is actually decent I think people will be fine

    • @sh4rkstooth340
      @sh4rkstooth340 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Grayves_X D3 is not happening just drop that shit

    • @jam-etc
      @jam-etc 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      we owe it to Caiatl, you know???

  • @jayallen5599
    @jayallen5599 หลายเดือนก่อน +303

    There is that one scannable on Nessus that, if you're an exo, Ghost warns you to stay away from

    • @Brad.M.
      @Brad.M. หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      I'm an Exo on my Titan main....now I gotta know where this is. Got a general idea where it is?

    • @TimelostInTheSauce
      @TimelostInTheSauce หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      @@Brad.M.it’s where Xur normally shows up on Nessus, right on the tree, also the area where the Season of Opulence ship used to be.

    • @freaky4985
      @freaky4985 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember that being on Io in the cave where Xur spawned. Is there also one on Nessus?

    • @redhoodie4111
      @redhoodie4111 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@TimelostInTheSauce All that does is summon vex

    • @TimelostInTheSauce
      @TimelostInTheSauce หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@redhoodie4111 wrong area, it’s where xur’s nessus spawn is

  • @BBBey
    @BBBey หลายเดือนก่อน +325

    The shape of that strange light around Saint-14 looks like the Ishtar Collective logo.

    • @flagondragon1854
      @flagondragon1854 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Was gonna point out the same thing, glad I'm not the only one who noticed

    • @simonediamante7556
      @simonediamante7556 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      I noticed too! Don't forget the wishkeeper exotic mission..in the last week, in taranis lair in the black garden, we enter that vex portal and we see the ishtar logo there..i think this episode will be the most interesting

    • @simonediamante7556
      @simonediamante7556 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Most important question about this is, why we found thay portal in a ahamkara lair? Are the vex connected to the wish dragons? What if we see a taranis simulation? A thing that i think is worth remember (even if it's not connected to this episode) is that mara still have these ahamkara eggs.. if bungie play their cards well, we will see a lot of cool things.

    • @Bruvboi
      @Bruvboi หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@simonediamante7556 Well, Taranis' lair was within the Black Garden, which is directly related to the Vex

    • @PixelleHearts
      @PixelleHearts หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@simonediamante7556 My dude, didn't you pay attention? Taranis and Riven made their lair inside the Black Garden. As in, it was never their land to begin with. They wanted a place to rest between all worlds so they could grow their family in peace.

  • @Rayrayplaysall
    @Rayrayplaysall หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    It really feels like there's a renewed vigor for the future of destiny after seeing what they've already shown so far it's absolutely insane.

    • @lordpumpkinhead265
      @lordpumpkinhead265 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Bungie has finally decided to put their foot on the gas pedal and floor it, and I seriously hope they keep this momentum through Year 10 and beyond. They went from one of the worst DLCs on record to the best DLC they've ever released, and now it's time to take off.

    • @dumbsterdives
      @dumbsterdives หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@lordpumpkinhead265with any luck, this has made the braindead execs responsible for Lightfall's state and the layoffs see some logic, considering its been said that after the backlash they actually sat down and listened to the dev team and this was our result (im paraphrasing of course.)

    • @DreamingGod05
      @DreamingGod05 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Final Shape has bought a lot of goodwill. It is the most fun I've had in Destiny in a long while and it seems the community shares the sentiment.

  • @Phurlo
    @Phurlo หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    HUGE discovery!!!
    We already know (if you didn’t already know) that the Witness broke the 4th wall towards the end of the final campaign mission where he talked about guardians going for loot, commendations and triumphs.
    In the 4th encounter of Salvations Edge, The Witness recognizes what we’re doing with 2D and 3D shapes and kills the 3 guardians split off into solo rooms testing to see if we can return our ghosts to each other without seeing where we are because he knows we’re communicating outside of the game, breaking the 4th more aggressively than before.

    • @poplthemaidensrevengetmr3573
      @poplthemaidensrevengetmr3573 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haven’t played the raid but if this is true😲😲

    • @africanpenguin3104
      @africanpenguin3104 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The witness gonna start coming after us now

    • @Phurlo
      @Phurlo หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I need Byf to see this comment man this was wild when I figured out (took doing the campaign 3 times and being stuck on 4th encounter for a few hours to figure it out

    • @marcusskinner1041
      @marcusskinner1041 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This needs more likes damn

    • @life-destiny1196
      @life-destiny1196 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As fun as fourth wall shenanigans are to me, I don't really think raid comms qualify. Now, the whole thing with Savathun and 999 light, however...

  • @furmiga3d346
    @furmiga3d346 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    the dreadnought, we becoming it's navigator... to use it to go to new places...

    • @TheShamann
      @TheShamann หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      YES! Totally goes with the name Frontiers for the next year

    • @furmiga3d346
      @furmiga3d346 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@TheShamann right?! and, come on, would be so badass to just go to another systems in the dreadnought... maybe it can even become te main hub in the another system, like the tower is in Sol.

    • @suminternetsht290
      @suminternetsht290 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@furmiga3d346 actually 🔥

    • @thorodinson292
      @thorodinson292 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We leavin' sol with this one🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥

    • @MxSteelscale
      @MxSteelscale หลายเดือนก่อน

      Project Frontier

  • @mkpalmer88
    @mkpalmer88 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    I think the lore tab for the "Ill Omens" sword coming out this Episode points to Eris taking up Oryx's mantle as 'The Navigator' and assuming control of the Dreadnought:
    "Eris placed a third card beside the others.
    The Harbinger.
    So, she still had a role to play in all this. She stared down at the image of herself, running an ungloved fingertip along its edge.
    They would come for her soon...
    The feeling evaporated. The card faces stared up at her. The three of them united once again: Eris Morn, Savathûn, and Xivu Arath. The cards spoke of confrontation, but also sorority. Xivu Arath had called her sister. Was she still?
    One final card.
    The visage of Oryx, his Dreadnaught, his logic and his laws. That phantom with a shadow so long it lingered over them long after his death."
    With Eris as Navigator, we take the Dreadnought out of Sol and my personal hope is retaking Torobatl and a final confrontation with Xivu Arath.

    • @user-ug6sm4nj9b
      @user-ug6sm4nj9b หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      So in English soon the dreadnought will be our new ship possibly as a flagship of the coalition I mean look at the size of that thing

    • @gabrielbarbosacoutinho8207
      @gabrielbarbosacoutinho8207 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And certainly with her own hive brood under her command as the hive goddess of vengeance once again (or maybe hive goddess of something else but between us, hive goddess of vengeance suits Her better, right?).

    • @user-ug6sm4nj9b
      @user-ug6sm4nj9b หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gabrielbarbosacoutinho8207 yeah maybe we can have our own hive ships if she want to be the hive goddess of vengeance and want a good hive brood and maybe we will have vex allies as well if so our coalition will get bigger and stronger

    • @bestsynth4102
      @bestsynth4102 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I think, personally, we should go after Riis (and any other Eliksni colony) first - the Eliksni deserve to return to their homeworld. (I say it once and I say it again, Eramis was done dirty by the story.)

    • @RodrigoLeaf15
      @RodrigoLeaf15 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Had the same idea, especially with the mention of Frontiers. We don't have ships capable of travel outside of the Solar System, but the Dreadnaught would be perfect for that role. And Eris claiming the title of Navigator, but repurposing in for the benefit of the people of Sol would be a great move for her character. It puts her back on the Hive Pantheon, but maybe no longer as a God of Vengeance (tho if we can have her back, I won't complain xDDD)

  • @Zxykary
    @Zxykary หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    This is Failsafe’s era. She’s going Billboard Top 10 baby. It’s her moment.

    • @2ndlegend125
      @2ndlegend125 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Give her a human/vex/exo body and shes easily #1.

    • @bobertastic6541
      @bobertastic6541 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@2ndlegend125seems odd we kind of just left her in that ship alone, we should let her get around more

    • @byranwitherspoon5369
      @byranwitherspoon5369 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@2ndlegend125that could happen

    • @Deterna
      @Deterna หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does she have the same va? Sounded different to me

    • @bobertastic6541
      @bobertastic6541 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Deterna probably because she has actual concern and stuff and isn’t just being sassy.

  • @dumbsterdives
    @dumbsterdives หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Important thing to note: the Sparrow, Ghost Shell, and Ship in the season pass have lore tabs that are personal logs of an unnamed person that is clearly our mysterious enemy. One thing they talk about in these logs is the simulated copies in the vex network, basically saying they dont count as true people. What this makes me think is that this is actually the original Maya, corrupted by her interactions with the Veil and planning to use the Vex for her own ends (seemingly uplifting humanity going by these lore tabs) regardless of the cost. Another note: In the altered version of the Insight Terminus strike from Micah's lost ghost quest has a cloned Kargen attempting to access it and being stopped from accessing it outright *by Maya*.

    • @Grayves_X
      @Grayves_X หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was wondering if Byf had done that mission yet

  • @barreldragon65
    @barreldragon65 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I just remembered....Brother Vance went into the Infinite Forest. We might fight him...and nothing will be lost.

    • @rawpie2
      @rawpie2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1


  • @DualEquinox
    @DualEquinox หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Also putting my money on it now, with Failsafe having made us Armor this season in order to entice us to visit since we get to go to all the cool places, is gonna end up realising the meme and making itself into a gun, as it realises that is how it can get us to take them to see all the cool places.

  • @MobiusVDProductions
    @MobiusVDProductions หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Byf: Clovis bray would have experienced pain beyond imagining.
    Me: Good.

  • @itskingcactus4618
    @itskingcactus4618 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    Nessus and failsafe being remembered is insane ngl

  • @JJMomoida
    @JJMomoida หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Not gonna lie, I chuckled when one of the devs said "we're gonna take the hive pantheon and shake up the snowglobe" like... dude, far as I'm concerned, the snowglobe was smashed to pieces back in The Witch Queen with the revelation that the Hive's existence is predicated on a lie.

  • @viable3589
    @viable3589 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I'm not the only one who noticed that the collar on Saint-14 and the Vex looks a lot like the Ishtar logo, right? It lines up with the theory that the new big bad in this Episode will be Maya Sundaresh, too, or at least validates it a little more.

    • @PTO214
      @PTO214 หลายเดือนก่อน

      JUST commented about that too!

  • @RodrigoMAOEE
    @RodrigoMAOEE หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "The Taken King will rise again"

  • @emperorholocron8278
    @emperorholocron8278 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    After The Hidden exhuming Oryx’s body last year in Ghosts of the Deep, Savathûn saying she’s preparing for a future game in the pale heart, Bungie saying they want to focus on the siblings, then showing pictures of Oryx AND going back to the dreadnaught?
    The Taken King is coming back baby 😤

    • @flaming_skull
      @flaming_skull หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Don't forget that in the end cutseen what xivu is reaching for

    • @epicgamerzfail4575
      @epicgamerzfail4575 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      question is, would oryx be friendy or enemy if he's brought back? with the witness gone and the sword logic broken, what would he be loyal too?

    • @soraxstacy1477
      @soraxstacy1477 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Remember that Oryx hates necromancy as he thinks that is "heresy". As bungie said, they want to put an extreme stress test on the sisters.

    • @AngeMaru486
      @AngeMaru486 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@epicgamerzfail4575wouldn’t he still be an enemy to us, since we still killed his son Crota

    • @Kyubii01
      @Kyubii01 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@epicgamerzfail4575the sword logic can’t be extinguished . People can practice it like Eris. He can pick the sword logic where he left off

  • @Arkaeus04
    @Arkaeus04 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Nokris appearing in heresy but now he follows an eldritch outer god meddling in the dreadnaught

  • @chriszalitach2462
    @chriszalitach2462 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Way too much is pointing towards Torobatl as our next major destination. The Cabal have had such a massive presence in Destiny 2 from the Red Legion, Calus, Caiatl, The Shadow Legion, The Psions, Xivu’s invasion.
    Destroying Xivu and liberating Torobatl would bring closure to so many plot threads that its begging to be explored as an expansion narrative.

  • @MysticCasey
    @MysticCasey หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    "Hive! Bring a snow globe!" The line they need to add to the Drifter come Heresy.

    • @IDragon1930
      @IDragon1930 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I could like x5 I would.

    • @DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando
      @DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also maybe fix Gambit. It was fun before they changed it what it is now, now it's just slow

    • @lazyvoid7107
      @lazyvoid7107 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrandoThey added two new factions in Gambit

    • @DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando
      @DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lazyvoid7107 neat, just wish it played it the same as old gambit, not even original gambit, just old gambit

    • @lazyvoid7107
      @lazyvoid7107 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando you mean 3 rounds Gambit?

  • @foolishfooligan4437
    @foolishfooligan4437 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Dang Byf, you got this out *fast*

  • @DualEquinox
    @DualEquinox หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    With the focus on the Vex, I hope we get to explore 2082 Volantis. Been hoping to sink my teeth into new Lore on what is on the other side of that portal since we fought Belmon

  • @The5lacker
    @The5lacker หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You know, between being an impossible, inverted space and fact it's literally a corpse, makes sense that the Dreadnought would be literally pulling itself apart at the seams if a new power gets introduced to it.

    • @FuKuNinja
      @FuKuNinja หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or just being to close to Saturn

    • @The5lacker
      @The5lacker หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@FuKuNinja I get the sneaking suspicion the radical new power introduced in the finale that's the source of the changes in the other two episodes *might* be the source of the changes in the third episode, as opposed to the... normal-ass planet the Dreadnought's been in orbit of for seven years.
      But they could throw a curveball, sure.

  • @intelliligibleverbose2340
    @intelliligibleverbose2340 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Getting my Voidwalker Dresstiny ready for Reveanent, so I can be Destiny Alucard.

    • @user-ku8yi5to4f
      @user-ku8yi5to4f หลายเดือนก่อน

      Time to fucked up filkrul yet again

    • @DragonKnight90001
      @DragonKnight90001 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Time to go for a walk, a very enthusiastic walk.

  • @sonatafrost
    @sonatafrost หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Toland finding an echo and becoming some sort of eldritch force of Darkness, potentially being the one who's peeling away the surface of the Dreadnaught & opening these gateways sounds like a really enticing idea to me!

  • @newtypeshot
    @newtypeshot หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One thing to point out is that in the shot at 12:12 you can actually see in the top right that there's at least one Pyramid vessel among Fikrul's new fleet. In one of the post campaign quests where you recover a Ghost from Nezarec's pyramid for Micah, the dialogue mentions that the Pyramid is yearning for a master. So it's possible that with the Witness gone, Fikrul was able to exert some sort of influence over one or more of the Black Fleet vessels and use them to his advantage.
    I've also seen a theory going around the community that the whole navigator theme in Heresy is pointing towards us taking control of the Dreadnaught and using it to leave Sol, to new systems and destinations in Frontiers. And I think that concept is AWESOME.

  • @trevelyandovah8479
    @trevelyandovah8479 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The season with "what if we were flying the dreadnaught" immediately followed by "Frontiers" as well as the recent Rhulk lore from pantheon about the coordinates of Lubrae gives a pretty clear indication of the path forward

  • @bawalbaba4820
    @bawalbaba4820 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One thing you forgot to mention, in regards to the Dreadnought, is that the ship is literally the second strongest Worm God's remains. There is bound to be immense reserves of power left over, even after Oryx's death. The fact that the Worm Gods are being featured prominently after the death of their subjugator, is very interesting.
    Personally, if I ONLY get the Navigator armor for my Titan, I'll be a happy camper. The rest is just bonus.

  • @coolking4715
    @coolking4715 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I just want the IX, the Aphelion and Volantis to get some love after these episodes.
    The IX are major players in the universe, they could have an entire expansion for themselves.
    The Aphelion could be something interesting as a new enemy race. But maybe instead of a whole race, they could be one type of enemy that hunt awoken and tech witches (idk how to spell it) in groups. Like a pack of wolves or something.
    Lastly Volantis could be an interesting Dungeon location with new Vex types.
    There is so much more too, things like the disciple connected to Winterbite and similar things.
    God I hope for D2 to continue being good, an animated Destiny show could be great too.

    • @NakulKrishna
      @NakulKrishna หลายเดือนก่อน

      I could see the aphelion being a dungeon. Would be so interesting, and creepy.

    • @Vextral4653
      @Vextral4653 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The thing is, the nine are not good nor bad. They just want to find a way back into the universe. Some of them are kinda stuck, which is why they send Xur and the other one to interact with us. If we got like a IX story it would be like we need them, bring them back. Kinda thing.

  • @CrazyByDefault
    @CrazyByDefault หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The "Vex Collar" is basically the Ishtar Collective logo put around their necks, practically confirming that the hooded figure is Maya Sundaresh, reborn via the echo.

  • @zombiepicnic9683
    @zombiepicnic9683 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm excited for all of these. Since Failsafe is involved with this first episode, I wonder if we'll revisit the original captain of the Exodus Black who we encountered as a Vex back in vanilla D2.

  • @ThatOneGuyWatching
    @ThatOneGuyWatching หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We could finally meet back up with Lady Efrideet, possibly.

  • @MorganNull-uj6uu
    @MorganNull-uj6uu หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Vex do whatever it takes to survive, no matter how immoral or wrong that is. But not all Vex, despite being interconnected like a hive mind, followed or worshipped the witness meaning they knew the witness wasn’t going to be the end all be all.

  • @Silencersix
    @Silencersix หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    3:46 Something I just realized is that this is the same place we saw in the Season of the Undying trailer (it had all of the empty Vex frames suspended in water, before going through a portal to the Black Garden)

    • @markricheard1870
      @markricheard1870 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Actually, it was originally intended for use under the cancelled Destiny 1 DLC named *”Vex Void”*

    • @PTO214
      @PTO214 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think they were just reusing that cinematic as part of their montage about the Vex and Echoes.

  • @abelortiz3010
    @abelortiz3010 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love how bungie takes their time when bringing back fan favorites. Especially with exotics and destinations. Imagine how lackluster a lot of renewed content would be if bungie was quick to please the nostalgia zombies.

    • @Blanktester685
      @Blanktester685 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      they brought back red death the nostalgia zombies have already been fed

  • @jeannis2234
    @jeannis2234 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Frontiers sounds like a fresh start to destiny, like a brand new story, obviously with the context of the old one but a new start that’s more calculated and many times better than the previous stories they’ve told, CANT WAIT.

  • @jackgammon1490
    @jackgammon1490 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm so glad you finally mentioned Entry 12. One of my favorite lore entries ever cause of how ominous and terrifying it is.

  • @nekotyrant1629
    @nekotyrant1629 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's still so surreal that the Witness is gone, as someone who started their Guardian's journey in 2015. I remember 2 subclasses only. Really anxious to see what Bungie's devs do next.

  • @ComicallyLargeSpoon25
    @ComicallyLargeSpoon25 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im really excited for the episodes! I really hope they end up uncovering more of the 9'a mysteries going forward and I hope we see Siva again !

  • @codylujan
    @codylujan หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's nice seeing Fikrul come back only because its a big "told you so" from him. He knew that even if we killed him in Forsaken, he would come back even more powerful and we wrote him off as just another ad.
    However, I do want to say, I'm extremely excited to play reprised Nessus. I was in love playing vanilla D2 going through Nessus. Such a pretty planet. Glad it's having an overhaul.

  • @JustAMagicDuck
    @JustAMagicDuck หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ok. So the lore pages from the ghost, sparrow, and ship from the season pass all seem to be from Maya’s perspective. She references “my Vex” several times but most importantly at one point she essentially asks the question, “is all of humanity necessary for another golden age?” And her conclusion seems to be that they are not.
    Chilling stuff. Can’t wait to learn more.

  • @matthewtaber9635
    @matthewtaber9635 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The dreadnought will be our new helm outside of the solar system! Maybe if we're lucky we'll get to vibe it up with Savathun's Light/Hive aesthetics.

  • @bionuvanui3142
    @bionuvanui3142 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If you look carefully at the Vex and Saint, you’ll see that the neck brace they wear matches the Ishtar collective insignia.

    • @life-destiny1196
      @life-destiny1196 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's more clear on that shot of Saint, but the Vex ingame look like overload champions to me--which leads to more than a few jokes.

  • @xTGE
    @xTGE หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As someone who plays magic, I'm all for my Titan looking like Elesh Norn with that Navigator armour helm lol

  • @Cadwun
    @Cadwun หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In relation to "Frontiers," i think the quote of one of the devs that they echoes "have spread throughout the GALAXY."
    I think we are defs spending the 11th year exploring all the different planets that the Echoes have gone to as we shut them down/collect them?

  • @Hijack279
    @Hijack279 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Something to note is Fikrul has black fleet vessels in his ranks as well.

  • @fuhkyu8146
    @fuhkyu8146 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love that oryx story with him going into the void with that vessel he had made to commune with the darkness, I feel like the entity he spoke with might come up again

  • @wolfrosefrost5475
    @wolfrosefrost5475 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    With how the Dreadnaught is being changed, I can see it becoming a Lucent Hive ship.

    • @oxsila
      @oxsila หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know much about how all this works. But is there some sort of possibility of Xivu Arath being involved in the Dreadnaught? So the enemies will be Wrathborn instead of Lucent Hive? Or maybe Xivu overtakes the Lucent Hive as her own i have no idea lol

    • @wolfrosefrost5475
      @wolfrosefrost5475 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m a sense, the Darkness of the Dreadnaught is being peeled away as the ship is infested with Light.

  • @PridetheFallen
    @PridetheFallen หลายเดือนก่อน

    The white bone is so very Savathun! I believe either she's meddling with the Dreadnaught or someone else is to honor her or as her direct pawn. Super excited for it's return!

  • @sniperfity2327
    @sniperfity2327 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Where are the nine in all this? It feels like bungie has either forgotten or hasn't found a good place for them but it would be nice.

  • @reamoinmcdonachadh9519
    @reamoinmcdonachadh9519 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    And Clovis would have deserved every bit of it!!

  • @j2valid64
    @j2valid64 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Aye man last video was a straight hit and ngl you said some real things glad to continue this ride!!

  • @tiradeee
    @tiradeee หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I hope each episode is the equivalent of the amount of content that into the light has

  • @MalcIgg
    @MalcIgg หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Echos bursting free of the Witness, affected by the Light and scattered across Sol and beyond, makes for a great deal of freedom in 'what next'. Becoming a fabulous bridge towards the next long campaign (multiple years' worth of content) -- feels very much like where I would set a Destiny TTRPG with lots of freedom to explore, and folk to create, etc -- however I'm also looking forward to continuing stories from the devs and team - supported by our very own loredaddy ;) Thanks Byf :)

  • @jx6135
    @jx6135 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm also happy to have a new Gambit map. Plus, the Shadow Legion and Lucent Hive have been added to Gambit

  • @mwatts622
    @mwatts622 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Byf on a roll with these uploads. Let’s go!

  • @mrkat8137
    @mrkat8137 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im calling it, oryx comes back through necromancy (thus the name heresy) which explains why they mentioned how it’ll leave the pantheon changed forever.

  • @jaywrites9066
    @jaywrites9066 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I absolutely love the direction Destiny is currently taking. I've been playing since D1 but hadn't honed in on any of the lore at the time. I was playing with blinders on and with an exhausted mindset that didn't really leave me open to doing more than just brainlessly shooting things to get through the missions. I've been spending a lot of time recently watching old Byf videos, absorbing the lore like it's my own personal Ether, and I'm so absolutely beyond thrilled with all these possible connections.
    It would be really interesting to see more of the Six Coyotes, and why we're only now starting to see a return there. There seems to be this interesting and beautiful balance between looking deep into the past (with discovering ancient civilizations) and looking forward with what happens next. My own theories are that we might finally get some answers about the K1 artifact in year 11! With the idea that we might venture deeper outside of Sol, we might get information on who or what it was communicating with, and what it's purpose was. Who knows, maybe we'll see the seeds of these answers in Echoes!

    @xXUNDUTCH4BL3Xx หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here patiently waiting for byf to dive us into the new lore🙌🏻

  • @goldenyak629
    @goldenyak629 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A thought about the Precursor's 'glass minds.'
    The FS-campaign quest for the Insight Terminal had a mention about how the psion's OXA machine and the Future War Cult's prediction Device were somehow the same thing. OXA is sometimes described as 'eternally lost and eternally rebuilt'.
    Maybe, every time you build a predictive engine that's accurate enough, you essentially get the same device. A machine that performs the same function, essentially identical regardless of who is building it or when or out of what.
    Glassminds, OXA, the Device... what if, whevever you build a prediction engine that's robust enough, you essentially end up with Vex? Vex that are as 'real' as the Vex that occur 'naturally' from radiolaria and mechanical frames. Functionally identical. That's just what you wind up with when you take predictive technology far enough.

    • @life-destiny1196
      @life-destiny1196 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Convergent evolution, sorta. I like it.

  • @RoyalSolari
    @RoyalSolari หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually super excited about these next 3 episodes! They sound like they are trying to answer some biggish questions that have been around for a very long time. Can’t wait to hear more!

  • @inquisitorichijou883
    @inquisitorichijou883 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So we know that Fikrul rejected Mara's offer of alliance.
    "So be it" as Mara said.

  • @malachairasmussen4591
    @malachairasmussen4591 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am so.... freaking hyped about being a Vampire Hunter. I might even play a Hunter to actually be a Vampire Hunter beside my Titan.

    • @DarthLevicor
      @DarthLevicor หลายเดือนก่อน +1


    • @malachairasmussen4591
      @malachairasmussen4591 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarthLevicor the caption would be "Hold on tight, Spider Monkey.".

    • @DarthLevicor
      @DarthLevicor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@malachairasmussen4591 I WAS THINKING OF EXACTLY THAT

    • @malachairasmussen4591
      @malachairasmussen4591 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarthLevicor great minds and whatnot.

    • @DarthLevicor
      @DarthLevicor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@malachairasmussen4591 ah yes indeed indeed 🤔

  • @jpd014
    @jpd014 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I started thinking about episodes beyond the first three and where they go. It'd be really cool to see The Nine somehow gain access to one of the echoes and an episode focus on helping out the faction that sends Xur and the Emissary to us.

  • @Cellardoor_
    @Cellardoor_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    Going to Riis would be amazing. They had concept art of giant moth people and giant frogs and all that - they can finally use them.

  • @gabodee
    @gabodee หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was patiently waiting for you my guy

  • @vexmorrigan527
    @vexmorrigan527 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The final shape was so fucking good. Alle three of the episodes sound very intresting.

  • @kramersolinsky5841
    @kramersolinsky5841 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The collars of light are eerily similar to the Ishtar Collective insignia 👀

    • @skillshottopher
      @skillshottopher หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely is the symbol. Think the community is on point for thinking Maya Sundaresh is coming.

  • @seannwatts6132
    @seannwatts6132 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be able to talk or see Kabr again would be awesome. One of the most important guardians in history

  • @Lewt_2B
    @Lewt_2B หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you missed that fikrul is also commanding pyramid ships in that image

  • @uragu1505
    @uragu1505 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really glad bungie are pushing on with destiny 2

  • @PageKasai
    @PageKasai หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Lets go Vex Seasooooon

    • @godlyhax4172
      @godlyhax4172 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cant wait for the saint and Maya sex scene

    • @robertmiles1194
      @robertmiles1194 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      wasn’t Lightfall basically one big Vex season…..

    • @Spookyy24
      @Spookyy24 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@robertmiles1194 with 0 lore

    • @godlyhax4172
      @godlyhax4172 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robertmiles1194 no?

    • @One_Eyed_Bandit
      @One_Eyed_Bandit หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Episode” gosh get it right! /s lol

  • @azteral3834
    @azteral3834 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think I've ever been this early to a Byf video... I'm actually kind of impressed with the timing.

  • @AyyFuji
    @AyyFuji หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m most excited for Heresy, I was hoping the Witness had an eldritch form, which we kind of got in the raid and Excision, but if it’s a whole Episode/Season with that vibe, I’m hyped.

  • @mosquitojames5690
    @mosquitojames5690 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buf, you have bo idea how reliant some of us are on you to keep us up to date in the story So PLEASE KEEP UP TGE AWESOME WORK!!!!

  • @dominicmascall5324
    @dominicmascall5324 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love to see a TSLAYP for The Final Shape. Listening to Byf's "Loregasm's" during The Witch Queen was very entertaining, so id love yo see his reactions to some of the stuff during The Final Shapes campaign.

  • @Dorian_Kellum
    @Dorian_Kellum หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d love to see Oryx again (in whatever way we can) in this new era of Destiny storytelling. He was criminally underused compared to the villains we get these days. I wonder what he would think of all that has happened, how he would feel about his sisters and us.

  • @gavinlucas1111
    @gavinlucas1111 หลายเดือนก่อน

    considering that the excerpt regarding maya sundaresh disecting Clovis I also discussed her corruption of his interstellar navigation system meant to dicover new locations for humanity to inhabbit, I'd say that the importance of her exposition in this first echo will be of great value leading up to frontiers.

  • @antares8826
    @antares8826 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The dialogue of the "Insight Terminus" Strike has also been updated, where a Clone of Kargen tries to gain insight of MSund12 and the OXA-Machine again

  • @nihilumgaming6718
    @nihilumgaming6718 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If memories are part of the dark, there is a possibility Guardians might being resurrected with full memory of their prior lives right? I think if they brought Amanda back this might tie into the “if you were brought back, you wouldn’t be you” at the end of defiance.

  • @HadrosaurHero
    @HadrosaurHero หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The big thing with the episodes is we're finally getting some new villains. Pretty much everything for a while has been connected to the Witness in some way. Now we're finally getting a villain that we can identify for the Vex. The Scorn are getting to rise in prominence with the 2nd episode, and exploring the Fallen. And the Hive are in a weird state where one of their gods is dead, one is disgraced in their eyes, and the last true one is heavily weakened with only one life. I personally think the Hive may be looking at a big shake up in the pantheon. Now that the 3 siblings are weakened, I think some other prominent Hive are going to rise up and become demi-gods to full on gods in their own right. Probably more of them too, split up the hive and diversify them a bit with several gods. We already saw Eris take on the mantle of God of Vengence, who knows what others would show up.

  • @Kn.77
    @Kn.77 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm so excited for tomorrow!!! The future looks super bright :D

  • @Hedron1027
    @Hedron1027 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I legitimately hope that we get to hear from Praedyth again at some point in Echoes. Because Praedyth’s fall hasn’t happened yet, and it will happen again.

  • @Omar-hn3gu
    @Omar-hn3gu หลายเดือนก่อน

    So hyped for the future updates!!

  • @comentnine1574
    @comentnine1574 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Something that’s been on my mind recently as I’m still watching the complete story video and it’s are there still Awoken in the dualality or whatever it was called because if memory serves Mara Sov only led a expedition back to Sol and not the whole Awoken race.

  • @zxDrew
    @zxDrew หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My hope is with the reveal of Revenant, the first words spoken were something to the effect of “Revenant is very Fallen”, meaning Wrath of the Machine will finally make its way back in that season/episode. Cope or not, the timing would be right

  • @grzetim
    @grzetim หลายเดือนก่อน

    The second whoever that figure is in Echos was able to control Saint like that my mind went right to control of the mind fluid. I wonder if they'll be something special that Exo guardians can hear that others cannot; like when you would have Nez's gear equipped.

  • @ahabthewhatifer
    @ahabthewhatifer 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The dreadnought bit is making me think that Ahka(or however tf you spell his name) either 1 wasn't truly dead much like Xol isn't truly dead, or 2 that the dreadnought is peeling away to reveal Ahkas bones that are the supports for the dreadnought, either way, it sounds fun and cool

  • @markricheard1870
    @markricheard1870 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    “As much as people want Destiny 3 to be announced now.” Lol no, I sure as hell don’t. And honestly it’s really just the top Tier 1% of Players (and TH-camrs who are carried by fans within the 1%) who want that, because they wouldn’t need to put up much effort to get everything they lost back. Personally I don’t want to wait 5 Years for the Kings Wrath Weapons and Armor to be patched back in. Remember how in the Cinematic for D2 Launch, they showed the Queens Wrath Armor being worn…which to this day, has not been added…
    Oh, uh I mean yaaaay! D3! Everything I’ve scraped by to get gone! Woohoo…

    • @xuxon24
      @xuxon24 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The only way D3 makes sense is if they plan a full game upgrade from the engine level, it's pointless if it's just to add new destinations.

    • @kobolddraconneon679
      @kobolddraconneon679 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Amen. Nothing D3 could offer other than an entire new game engine would be worth the change.
      Bungie has proven we can completely rework class structures and even go pseudo classless with prismatic, it wouldn't be hard for them to gradually shift to the system people use to excuse the existence of a D3. I'll happily keep my memories and loot and Bungie can keep rotating episodes annually or some such, trying new things in between.
      They don't need to waste 5 years developing that in the background, they need to continue this positive trend of bringing D2 back swinging. Plus, given how poorly they perform financially, I'm not even sure Bungie could get the green light for a huge investment like D3 when they already have 2 other unlaunched, unfinished titles that don't have any real chance of having a long term dedicated playerbase.

    • @MorganNull-uj6uu
      @MorganNull-uj6uu หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah I want D3

    • @xuxon24
      @xuxon24 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kobolddraconneon679 and you have to think that TFS went way over budget for the extra months of work they did all of that work was accounted for in the beginning and they did all that to correct the mistakes. Also telling people you are taking all their stuff again lol it's going to be meltdown if they feel it's only a minor update.

    • @radarhead82
      @radarhead82 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's either D3 eventually or shadow keep and beyond light get vaulted :/ or file size balloons to insane sizes

  • @Outlander19
    @Outlander19 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One thing that has been discovered by a friend of mine is that the dialougue at the end of Insight Terminus has been changed to mention Maya Sundaresh by Name at tne start of TFS

  • @iceboxx887
    @iceboxx887 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let’s go!!!! Been waiting for this one today!!!

  • @Radcaster
    @Radcaster หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have a lot to look forward to, I am personally excited for our eventual confrontations with the Aphelion

  • @Soulverine
    @Soulverine หลายเดือนก่อน

    When Byf said, "That's how you get Lightfall and I don't think any of us want another Lightfall," I immediately pictured Archer saying, "Do you want ants?!? This is how you get ants, Lana!!"

  • @FrostieTS
    @FrostieTS หลายเดือนก่อน

    The new ghost for the season has a log from maya. I read it yesterday and freaked out that that figure is potentially maya. So excited for these episodes

  • @micahb.194
    @micahb.194 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first thoughts when I saw Frontiers were Torobatl and Riis. I'm excited for the future of Destiny!

  • @captainrelyk
    @captainrelyk หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m most excited for revenant. Not only is it dark fantasy themed, but I love house of light and mithrax is my favorite character. Cyberpunk tech splicer meets dark fantasy? Hell yeah!