Thanks for sharing. I like to tie the Goddard but never thought of substituting CDC for the hackle. Great video. I think you are brave to use 18/0 on deer hair. I would have cut it off rather quickly. I have to use a wider thread for that. All the best, Sean
The cdc makes the fly look a lot more natural in my opinion. Also it's cheaper and floats really well. Yes the 18/0 I do not recommend for deer hair work. But if you keep flattening it out it works.
Hi Joe, Thanks a lot! The scissors are the tungsten carbide from Dr.Slick www.drslick.com/catalog/view_item/scissors/tungsten-carbide I've had them for over 2 years, with constant use and they can still cut gsp
If you are not careful, the 18/0 will easily cut right through the deer hair and it sure has happened to me. A trick is to spin the boobin counterclockwise to get a little flatter thread that will not cut as easily. I would recommend using a slightly thicker thread though, but I'm all out of 12/0 gsp.
Hi Simon, wow that's a great job on tying & trimming that deer hair on a #16 hook. It would make a nice muddler head too. On the original G&H caddis, according to a book of patterns I have, the thread is reattached at the rear after trimming, and a body of green dubbing is a applied, then tied down before adding the hackle. Are you familiar with the pattern? I have recently watched Barry Ord Clarke tie a streaking caddis. He said it was tied by a Swedish tier Lenart Bekest (don't know if correct spelling). Do you know that tier? Anyway most of these caddis I've seen are tied on much bigger hooks, even 2x long. Amazing you're able to tie that on a #16! Lots of possibilities for that head on different patterns. I see you're using Partridge hooks lately, how do they compare with the others you've used? Thanks my friend, awesome tutorial.
Hi Joe, thanks a lot! the deer hair spinning on a size 16 sure is a little finicky. I'm glad it worked out for the video. On camera, all kinds of unpredictable things tend to happen :) I have seen the pattern you are referring to, I think I had it in my first tying book. I have never tied it this way as it just seemed to be an extra step that didn't add that much to the pattern, but would be interesting to tie some flies in both variations and test them out at the same time to see if the dubbed body makes a difference. Makes for a nice looking fly though. Yes, Lennart Bergqvist is one of the most known Swedish tyers with patterns like the streaking caddis and the superpuppa. I have to get hold of his book some time. Usually I tend to tie my goddard caddis on bigger hooks as well, I've just ran out of them so 16 it had to be. The Partridge hooks are some of the best I've tried and I especially like their range of barbless hooks. The hooks also seem to be a little heavier wire, or at least the ones I've tried, and as I use gsp thread for almost all my flies, I like to put a lot of tension and the hooks don't bend as much, which is nice. I haven't found something to complain about yet.
HacklesAndWings I agree on the extra step for the body on the G&H. Especially when you could probably color the underside with a marker. I've never seen anyone else do it either. If it ain't broke don't fix it, right? And you can always edit a video, :) Take care Simon and thanks again.
That sure is a great idea! Would be really cool to see trout attack a big dry fly/ mouse on the surface. To tie in really big sizes, I would substitude the deer body hair for some deer belly hair, which is a little more durable.
Thanks for sharing. I like to tie the Goddard but never thought of substituting CDC for the hackle. Great video. I think you are brave to use 18/0 on deer hair. I would have cut it off rather quickly. I have to use a wider thread for that. All the best, Sean
The cdc makes the fly look a lot more natural in my opinion. Also it's cheaper and floats really well. Yes the 18/0 I do not recommend for deer hair work. But if you keep flattening it out it works.
Another great video, as always. What kind of scissors do you use to cut the GSP so easily?
Really enjoy your ties. Thank you.
Joe
Hi Joe, Thanks a lot! The scissors are the tungsten carbide from Dr.Slick www.drslick.com/catalog/view_item/scissors/tungsten-carbide I've had them for over 2 years, with constant use and they can still cut gsp
Did you notice the thread cutting the deer hair ? 18/0 thread is so thin that I think it could cut through the deer hair if you pull it really tight
If you are not careful, the 18/0 will easily cut right through the deer hair and it sure has happened to me. A trick is to spin the boobin counterclockwise to get a little flatter thread that will not cut as easily. I would recommend using a slightly thicker thread though, but I'm all out of 12/0 gsp.
Hi Simon, wow that's a great job on tying & trimming that deer hair on a #16 hook. It would make a nice muddler head too. On the original G&H caddis, according to a book of patterns I have, the thread is reattached at the rear after trimming, and a body of green dubbing is a applied, then tied down before adding the hackle. Are you familiar with the pattern? I have recently watched Barry Ord Clarke tie a streaking caddis. He said it was tied by a Swedish tier Lenart Bekest (don't know if correct spelling). Do you know that tier? Anyway most of these caddis I've seen are tied on much bigger hooks, even 2x long. Amazing you're able to tie that on a #16! Lots of possibilities for that head on different patterns. I see you're using Partridge hooks lately, how do they compare with the others you've used? Thanks my friend, awesome tutorial.
Hi Joe, thanks a lot! the deer hair spinning on a size 16 sure is a little finicky. I'm glad it worked out for the video. On camera, all kinds of unpredictable things tend to happen :) I have seen the pattern you are referring to, I think I had it in my first tying book. I have never tied it this way as it just seemed to be an extra step that didn't add that much to the pattern, but would be interesting to tie some flies in both variations and test them out at the same time to see if the dubbed body makes a difference. Makes for a nice looking fly though. Yes, Lennart Bergqvist is one of the most known Swedish tyers with patterns like the streaking caddis and the superpuppa. I have to get hold of his book some time. Usually I tend to tie my goddard caddis on bigger hooks as well, I've just ran out of them so 16 it had to be. The Partridge hooks are some of the best I've tried and I especially like their range of barbless hooks. The hooks also seem to be a little heavier wire, or at least the ones I've tried, and as I use gsp thread for almost all my flies, I like to put a lot of tension and the hooks don't bend as much, which is nice. I haven't found something to complain about yet.
HacklesAndWings I agree on the extra step for the body on the G&H. Especially when you could probably color the underside with a marker. I've never seen anyone else do it either. If it ain't broke don't fix it, right? And you can always edit a video, :) Take care Simon and thanks again.
I have that book also. I haven't been able to get that hair right. This video was very helpful. Thank you.
Hi, why not tie it on a larger hook, add a tail and call it a mouse? Works in NZ when we have a mouse population explosion! Trout love nice fat mice.
That sure is a great idea! Would be really cool to see trout attack a big dry fly/ mouse on the surface. To tie in really big sizes, I would substitude the deer body hair for some deer belly hair, which is a little more durable.
Not nice finish