Not outrageous. Phrase it as- if you are catholic nobody is ever going to push you in to an abortion. If you are not they will not allow you even for your own safety to have an abortion.
As a routine user of this hospital, I am so not looking forward to this. If this dictatorship really wanted a new ACT run hospital, then build one yourself. Leave Calvary alone!
@Andrew Crane state law states that a baby born alive, outside a woman's womb, should be killed. It's like having a law that supports gas chambers with mass unmarked graves. So what you are saying is that you support state laws such as this..... Sick beyond belief.
I'm with you on that.. why destroy something that is already functional and serving the community of those who are happy with the services they offer.. i feel there is much more going on in this instance.. and just like everything else that goes on in the halls of OUR parliamentary suites that the ppl of this nation PAID for with 'their' hard earned taxes, and whose wages WE the TAX payer pays.. we find out 'after' the event.. all the while, they continue to treat us like MUSHROOMS!! Kept in the dark and fed BS... these slugs NEVER fess up to what they're really up to.. then we, the public who are after all 'their employers'.. too many Aussies FORGET that simple fact.. THEY OWE us the TRUTH but we RARELY get it.. and NEVER by their mouth.. always some whistle-blower who steps up and then gets black balled for his/her effort.. they're 'selected' and, NOT by us!!! Ps.. i have always had much better and more compassionate care from privately run (public) hospitals than the General Grubberment run public INSTITUTIONS..
@@NathanCroucher 'ghost man in the sky' - never heard that one before. Freemasons call Him the great architect of the universe and I've always thought that funny enough. Is Calvary Hospital in Canberra the only hospital anywhere to have a fire. Over a period of 15 years I went to many fires in Canberra in all different types of buildings. In the present political climate I would think a lot of hospitals may be struggling in some way. Anyway what will be in Sin City will be. I would ask one thing of you that you could possibly do for me - if & when you get up there and if you get time could you please say hello to your ghost man for me.
@@NathanCroucher have u not heard all public hospitals in OZ are struggling? eg ambulance ramping, insufficient & underpaid staff, elective & urgent surgery waiting lists of up to 2yrs for some surgery. 🤮
Has anyone noticed that the Chapel in The Canberra Hospital has been dismantled. The religious icons have been removed without any conciliation . When my parents where both dying in Canberra Hospital it helped so much to have somewhere to go for quiet reflection & prayer away from the noise of the hospital. People need this space available particularly when their family member is dying or is very ill . It’s part of a hospital.
Why is it not performing? Where did you get that idea? It’s operating properly under their care ethos. Just like any organisation can. It’s Catholic! 😜
@@koala2464 If it were a private hospital, I'd be inclined to agree with you. But they operate the only northside public hospital. They receive medicare funding, and as a matter of law should HAVE to provide all services. But if you still think that, then that's exactly why the government is taking it over. A private enterprise running a public essential service like a hospital shouldn't be allowed to run it under some religious based morality clause. Thats absurd.
@@Steezypleasy It's considered risky practice to undertake a tubal litigation or any other procedure at the same time as a C section...you know, so those pesky little facts...
@@cathryncavaney5070 I'm afraid that you may be misinformed, or at least I can't manage to find sources that agree with you. Most health sources in fact suggest it as a safety measure after a second caesarean. There are many studies that show the risks are not significant
@@cathryncavaney5070 there are risks with every surgical procedure, that doesn’t mean it is not medically recommended? Not providing contraceptive and reproductive health services goes against best medical practice also...
THE difference in Catholic healthcare is it is healthcare for everyone, including the not-yet-born. A public service can choose to intentionally murder a human, a Catholic service cannot. This does not mean the Catholic service does not provide the same level of life-saving care and surgical procedures for a mother, it just means they also afford the highest level of CARE possible to the child as well.
The ACT Government suspended laws and introduced new legislation to ENABLE this compulsory acquisition of Calvary Hospital. This also now includes Clare Holland House. The ACT Health Minister can talk all she likes but the Labor/Greens do not believe in the rule of law…a CONTRACT is not worth the paper it is written on. You can bet your bottom dollar that ABORTIONS and VAD services ( not offered at Canberra Hospital currently) will be new “health options” freely available at Calvary from July. As I stated in emails to Albanese, Barr and Rattenbury. I hope you have the decency to CHANGE THE NAME before you offer your death-dealing services! Would I go to Clare Holland House for palliative care now it is in the hands of LABOR/GREENS control? NO……because the ONLY option would be morphine induced respiratory collapse or the BIG NEEDLE! The health minister needs to go on a trip to California……there are laws there now where you can ABORT your baby up to 27 days AFTER BIRTH!!😢. I suppose that is a “health option” too?! The ACT Government is, like the Federal Government VERY ARROGANT.
@@suecollins8199 I can't see my reply? did I reply? did it get deleted? hm. questions questions questions. The first 30 seconds of the video states that the hospital is indeed a public hospital, run under contract; it is a public hospital. public hospitals should be in public hands. public hospitals must not restrict vital health services based on ideology.
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A D&C is not an abortion. It is a medical procedure for women after a miscarriage (baby has already died & passed from the womb ). It is practiced regularly to remove maybe endometriosis, cancers or abnormal tissue inside the uterus. Calvary did these procedures as it was part of women’s health care. I find it disingenuous for Rachel Steven Smith to say they did not perform D&C’s at Calvary
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We've had some issues at St John of God Midland WA. I pretty hard and fast on this. If you get Medicare funding for existing, then you supply every service on Medicare Schedule. No if's or but's. ACT Govt is a Territory. It doesn't own the land so Feds can do what it likes. As it does in other States. Martin needs to be removed. He's ex Health Dept and needs to leave. Abortion, And of Life Care and the understood premise that in an emergency Police always take patients to the nearest available hospital bed. If Catholics want to have a debate about why individuals(the great unwashed) can't enter their doors then I'm agreeing with ACT Govt just like I want WA to do the same thing at the nice new shiny hospital in Midland. We all pay the Medicate Levy so we all pay for hospitals to make money for their shareholders. So we have a say over how they operate.
Leonie563. There are lots of ppl who DON'T pay the Medicare levy: eg many pensioners, unemployed & disabled. However, many of those people [frequently] require public hospital services.
@@suecollins8199 Medicare funding is taken from all tax anyway. The medicare levy is just extra tax to support it. Those pensioners likely already paid into the system before the levy was introduced. So again hardly important. And if thats what you take from the comment, thats sad.
@@PBMS123 I said "many pensioners, unemployed & disabled". If there are less people working, there'll be less tax to fund the Medicare levy/health services/facilities AND the NDIS.
@@suecollins8199 Ok.... sure...... but so what? Why would there be less? People are disabled, Australia knows that. Protection for those people is built.
I think its great that government is acquiring and updating Public hospital ownership .. Nothing stems from Privately owned hospitals for the Public .. whether owned by a Church or Caymen island multinational .. I believe that hospitals should be owned by public Taxpayers not Entrepreneurs or for Political strategists, funded at least by our federal Health system ..
@@anthonyporens4983 that is an absolutely outrageous mindset. “Does not the ear test words, as the palate tastes its food?” Job 12:11 Critical thinking is a gift from god. How dare you not use it?
@@anthonyporens4983 Indeed, and such is humanity that we support them in their endeavours towards health. As I assume you meant? Being a good Christian and all...
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@@Steezypleasy i thought some of your other comments were reasonable and even gave you 👍 up.. maybe i shouldn't have hmmm 🤔.. but i'm beginning to wonder about you now.. what do you mean by your comment? If you reply, plz respond with something reasonable and don't just waste my time..
If they need more Hospitals then build another one not take over and replace an existing one. This stinks.
I would guarantee it's NOT for anyone's real best interest 🤷♀..
Not outrageous. Phrase it as- if you are catholic nobody is ever going to push you in to an abortion. If you are not they will not allow you even for your own safety to have an abortion.
Catholic doctors/nurses may be forced to do the job though.
@@pinkpotatoes9849 nope doctors can always refer on if they are religiously opposed to providing good patient care.
As a routine user of this hospital, I am so not looking forward to this.
If this dictatorship really wanted a new ACT run hospital, then build one yourself. Leave Calvary alone!
That would be a valid argument if the Church was willing to provide care in line with State law. They are not.
@Andrew Crane state law states that a baby born alive, outside a woman's womb, should be killed. It's like having a law that supports gas chambers with mass unmarked graves. So what you are saying is that you support state laws such as this..... Sick beyond belief.
I'm with you on that.. why destroy something that is already functional and serving the community of those who are happy with the services they offer.. i feel there is much more going on in this instance.. and just like everything else that goes on in the halls of OUR parliamentary suites that the ppl of this nation PAID for with 'their' hard earned taxes, and whose wages WE the TAX payer pays.. we find out 'after' the event.. all the while, they continue to treat us like MUSHROOMS!! Kept in the dark and fed BS... these slugs NEVER fess up to what they're really up to.. then we, the public who are after all 'their employers'.. too many Aussies FORGET that simple fact.. THEY OWE us the TRUTH but we RARELY get it.. and NEVER by their mouth.. always some whistle-blower who steps up and then gets black balled for his/her effort.. they're 'selected' and, NOT by us!!!
Ps.. i have always had much better and more compassionate care from privately run (public) hospitals than the General Grubberment run public INSTITUTIONS..
For people with private health insurance, what choices will they have in a public hospital system which is already 'struggling'?
Who'd choose a hospital that catches fire and is run by a ghost man in the sky. "struggling" Where was this mentioned???
@@NathanCroucher 'ghost man in the sky' - never heard that one before. Freemasons call Him the great architect of the universe and I've always thought that funny enough. Is Calvary Hospital in Canberra the only hospital anywhere to have a fire. Over a period of 15 years I went to many fires in Canberra in all different types of buildings. In the present political climate I would think a lot of hospitals may be struggling in some way. Anyway what will be in Sin City will be. I would ask one thing of you that you could possibly do for me - if & when you get up there and if you get time could you please say hello to your ghost man for me.
@@NathanCroucher have u not heard all public hospitals in OZ are struggling? eg ambulance ramping, insufficient & underpaid staff, elective & urgent surgery waiting lists of up to 2yrs for some surgery. 🤮
@@suecollins8199 you gonna vote to give them more funding?
@@tezismith8795 more funding to whom?
The ACT is already funded (probably) more than the rest of the country....😬😒
Private business in a public hospital? A bigger hospital is needed anyway. If its a contract it can be taken back
that the Catholic church paid for....
@@cathryncavaney5070 parishoners paid for.😊
*it’s 👍🏻
Terrible and unjustifiable. Never in my life will I ever vote ALP again.
Same here, dictatorial actions that required a change to the law to avoid prosecution. Disgusting.
Leave Calvary Hospital alone!
The vast majority of ACT voters want this change. What makes you think your opinion is more important than the rest of us.
@@adcrane that's religion in a nutshell. Even hospital thinks it's beliefs overrule public health needs.
Love how Barnaby is incredulous that people wouldn't know it's Catholic while he gets the name of the operator wrong.
Nationalise, nationalise, nationalise. Lots of work to do.
Has anyone noticed that the Chapel in The Canberra Hospital has been dismantled. The religious icons have been removed without any conciliation . When my parents where both dying in Canberra Hospital it helped so much to have somewhere to go for quiet reflection & prayer away from the noise of the hospital. People need this space available particularly when their family member is dying or is very ill . It’s part of a hospital.
Probably because they are doing massive renovations, it's likely that's its either rebuilt already or planned to be rebuilt
What do you think they are, a bowling group 😂😂
Good work, if private enterprise demonstrates it's unfit to perform then too bad.
And when it's public?
Why is it not performing? Where did you get that idea? It’s operating properly under their care ethos. Just like any organisation can. It’s Catholic! 😜
@@koala2464 If it were a private hospital, I'd be inclined to agree with you. But they operate the only northside public hospital. They receive medicare funding, and as a matter of law should HAVE to provide all services.
But if you still think that, then that's exactly why the government is taking it over. A private enterprise running a public essential service like a hospital shouldn't be allowed to run it under some religious based morality clause. Thats absurd.
The ACT Health Minister is so arrogant and blase about this, and there is no real need to contiue this acquisition, unfair as it is.
You don't like facts and logical arguments? Strange
So Minister Stephen-Smith advocates AGAINST best medical practice according to the NASOG guidelines....I see....
Explain how
@@Steezypleasy It's considered risky practice to undertake a tubal litigation or any other procedure at the same time as a C section...you know, so those pesky little facts...
@@cathryncavaney5070 I'm afraid that you may be misinformed, or at least I can't manage to find sources that agree with you.
Most health sources in fact suggest it as a safety measure after a second caesarean. There are many studies that show the risks are not significant
@@cathryncavaney5070 there are risks with every surgical procedure, that doesn’t mean it is not medically recommended? Not providing contraceptive and reproductive health services goes against best medical practice also...
@@cathryncavaney5070 I think you meant tubal ligation (sterilisation) 😂
Government liky Government taky. Property rights.... guess not.
THE difference in Catholic healthcare is it is healthcare for everyone, including the not-yet-born.
A public service can choose to intentionally murder a human, a Catholic service cannot.
This does not mean the Catholic service does not provide the same level of life-saving care and surgical procedures for a mother, it just means they also afford the highest level of CARE possible to the child as well.
If the catholic healthcare service is not offering a range of reproductive services to women, then it’s hardly the healthcare for everyone is it?
What a bunch of bollocks. Did you even watch the video and hear how they were denying certain procedures?
@@Steezypleasy Elective abortions (murders) have nothing to do with healthcare.
@@Steezypleasy Tubal Ligations are also not healthcare, they are life-preventing interventions for which there are effective alternative i.e., NFP
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@@colin.charbel that's your opinion, you don't get to restrict others healthcare.
Katy Gallagher and Penny Wong need to be in jail.
Ummm... Why?
Get outside and off fox news you nutter
public hospitals should be in public hands. simple as that.
The ACT Government suspended laws and introduced new legislation to ENABLE this compulsory acquisition of Calvary Hospital. This also now includes Clare Holland House. The ACT Health Minister can talk all she likes but the Labor/Greens do not believe in the rule of law…a CONTRACT is not worth the paper it is written on. You can bet your bottom dollar that ABORTIONS and VAD services ( not offered at Canberra Hospital currently) will be new “health options” freely available at Calvary from July. As I stated in emails to Albanese, Barr and Rattenbury. I hope you have the decency to CHANGE THE NAME before you offer your death-dealing services! Would I go to Clare Holland House for palliative care now it is in the hands of LABOR/GREENS control? NO……because the ONLY option would be morphine induced respiratory collapse or the BIG NEEDLE! The health minister needs to go on a trip to California……there are laws there now where you can ABORT your baby up to 27 days AFTER BIRTH!!😢. I suppose that is a “health option” too?! The ACT Government is, like the Federal Government VERY ARROGANT.
But it's their hospital
Be nice for women to finally be able to get access to the full suite of health services offered elsewhere in Australia.
@@navarrenavarre Healthcare's pretty sweet. Get real mate
vbevan- the public hospital in Canberra should already be providing the service that Australians receive in other states & NT.🫠
@@suecollins8199 hospitals*, not one, and one of them was letting ideology dictate the way in which they deliver healthcare to women.
@@tezismith8795 one hospital is privately owned & managed & one is public (government) according to the report.
@@suecollins8199 I can't see my reply? did I reply? did it get deleted? hm. questions questions questions.
The first 30 seconds of the video states that the hospital is indeed a public hospital, run under contract; it is a public hospital. public hospitals should be in public hands. public hospitals must not restrict vital health services based on ideology.
Very sad, it should remain a Catholic organisation.
why?
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The LNP are deadest against this move. It must be a very good move.
That’s it
Voluntary assisted dying
A D&C is not an abortion. It is a medical procedure for women after a miscarriage (baby has already died & passed from the womb ). It is practiced regularly to remove maybe endometriosis, cancers or abnormal tissue inside the uterus. Calvary did these procedures as it was part of women’s health care. I find it disingenuous for Rachel Steven Smith to say they did not perform D&C’s at Calvary
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Civilisation was a thing before Catholicism.
@@tezismith8795 Maria doesn't agree because they weren't white. Classic
@@Steezypleasy Lol typical leftie bringing race into this. Probably more racist than any Christian
This is what happens when a party have been in power for over TWO DECADES
Arrogant ACT Labor have finally lost the plot
We've had some issues at St John of God Midland WA. I pretty hard and fast on this. If you get Medicare funding for existing, then you supply every service on Medicare Schedule. No if's or but's. ACT Govt is a Territory. It doesn't own the land so Feds can do what it likes. As it does in other States. Martin needs to be removed. He's ex Health Dept and needs to leave. Abortion, And of Life Care and the understood premise that in an emergency Police always take patients to the nearest available hospital bed. If Catholics want to have a debate about why individuals(the great unwashed) can't enter their doors then I'm agreeing with ACT Govt just like I want WA to do the same thing at the nice new shiny hospital in Midland. We all pay the Medicate Levy so we all pay for hospitals to make money for their shareholders. So we have a say over how they operate.
Leonie563. There are lots of ppl who DON'T pay the Medicare levy: eg many pensioners, unemployed & disabled. However, many of those people [frequently] require public hospital services.
@@suecollins8199 Medicare funding is taken from all tax anyway. The medicare levy is just extra tax to support it. Those pensioners likely already paid into the system before the levy was introduced. So again hardly important. And if thats what you take from the comment, thats sad.
@@PBMS123 I said "many pensioners, unemployed & disabled". If there are less people working, there'll be less tax to fund the Medicare levy/health services/facilities AND the NDIS.
@@suecollins8199 Ok.... sure...... but so what? Why would there be less? People are disabled, Australia knows that. Protection for those people is built.
@@PBMS123 so, where does the $ come from if less people are working?
And, robots won't pay income tax....🤣
I think its great that government is acquiring and updating Public hospital ownership ..
Nothing stems from Privately owned hospitals for the Public .. whether owned by a Church or Caymen island multinational ..
I believe that hospitals should be owned by public Taxpayers not Entrepreneurs or for Political strategists, funded at least by our federal Health system ..
Atheists should build their own hospitals.
Excellent news. Get it done.
How on earth people can think this has anything to do with religion, or is an attack on freedom of religion is just absurd.
Doctor: if the Act health minister& Mr Albanese were surgeons,( with their sort of attitude), would you like her to perform your life saving surgery?
What do you even mean? You don't trust the board that certifies surgeons?
@@Steezypleasy If I trust the Catholic church will my soul I also trust them with my body. That's what I am saying.
@@anthonyporens4983 that is an absolutely outrageous mindset. “Does not the ear test words, as the palate tastes its food?” Job 12:11
Critical thinking is a gift from god. How dare you not use it?
@@Steezypleasy i suppose some peolpe need surgeons others may need psychiatrists
@@anthonyporens4983 Indeed, and such is humanity that we support them in their endeavours towards health. As I assume you meant? Being a good Christian and all...
Very interesting. WEF was founded in 1971 too.
When the US went off the gold standard, and printed toilet paper for money.
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What is this junk? Looks like a bot wrote this
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@@aussiegirl3473 another bot?
@@Steezypleasy i thought some of your other comments were reasonable and even gave you 👍 up.. maybe i shouldn't have hmmm 🤔.. but i'm beginning to wonder about you now.. what do you mean by your comment? If you reply, plz respond with something reasonable and don't just waste my time..
Public hospitals in public hands.