TSM vs ahq e-Sports Club | MSI Group Stage Day 2 Mid Season Invitational 2015 | Team Solomid vs AHQ
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Mid Season Invitational 2015 in Tallahassee Florida - League of Legends tournament. MSI Day 2 - Group Stage!
Second match of the day - TSM vs ahq e-Sports Club best of 1.
TSM vs AHQ MSI full game in HD 1080p.
Team Solomid Line-up:
Dyrus - top Hecarim
Santorin - jungle Gragas
Bjergsen - mid Cho'Gath
Wildturtle - ADC Kalista
Lustboy - support Thresh
ahq e-Sports Club Line-up:
Ziv - Top Mokai
Mountain - Jungle Rek'Sai
westdoor - Mid Fizz
AN - ADC Urgot
Albis - Support Nautilus
Patch: 5.8 - season 5
Game date: 08.05.2015 | 05/08/2015 | May 8th 2015
Game place: Tallahassee, Florida
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TSM was my favorite Wildcard team
People need to stop pointing fingers at TSM and yelling 'so bad', and stop taking away from AHQ's amazing performance, they're looking really strong and are really opening eyes at this tournament, Im impressed
fox110110 They got REKT anally by every single team but the wildcard team. I wouldn't be impressed by any team "amazing performance" against TSM, it's just what's expected from them.
AHQ also beat Fnc and the wildcard team, they're looking looking really strong, so like I said before, stop taking away from how well they're doing
fox110110 Yes AHQ is playing well but TSM is playing like complete shit. By saying this game is strictly due to AHQ's amazing performance takes away from the fact that TSM is falling completely flat once again against the best in the world.
peter cassidy exactly why the look like shit is because this isn't NALCS
Mike Evangelion this right here lol. Na is so weak compared to other regions lmao. I guess they need more imports xP
man I feel bad for dyrus he didnt even get the chance to play league of legends
LeBronze James he clearly cant hang with the new blood in the top lane anymore. Shouldve stick to a tank rather than trying his luck with carry-top
Hwk Max its not even him though.... lol. The whole team got run over.
TSM is not bad, AHQ is just better, people underestimate teams from LMS not knowing that a team from that region won Season 2 Worlds.
感謝dyrus的幫忙LOL
Get Rekt FREESM
every single fight this game, santorin, full hp and hiding behind wild turtle.
Spoiler...
When AHQ beat up Fnatic, I thought that was a very low point for the west. Now AHQ even does a harder beat down on TSM and now you have to seriously question where the west stacks up comparably to the rest of the regions. Quite depressing.
Reddit is currently just slaughtering Dyrus, Santorin and Wildturtle. Dyrus for his poor positioning, giving up first bloods and his bad TPs, Santorin for... well for farming. He just isn't ganking in the early part of the game and it allows the other team to be aggressive in the TSM lanes starting snowballs for them. And Wildturtle, well they want him to carry and he has looked horrible on Kalista.
This game today illustrates the problems facing TSM. First picking Kalista? Why? Get Maokai and get it on Dyrus. That had to be the first pick. And why are they so fixated on Cho Gath for Bjergsen? Put him on an assassin. Against Westdoor, get Bjergsen on an assassin so he can influence the game. These picks and bans have been a huge failure for TSM and you have to blame much of that on Locodoco.
The hard part for TSM is that they are the best team in NA. There isn't a team that is close to them. So really how is TSM going to improve? Remember, if they are winning their own region, its very hard to simply say they need to replace 2 or 3 players because who are they going to find to replace these players with? The chorus for change is very loud but TSM is going to have to be careful since they are at the top of their region.
Dias Benes maybe they are just hiding strat for worlds? Why would they tryhard at msi it's not even worth they won IEM already and i bet they know what they are doing or the coach is fking retarded for putting bjerg on cho 2 time in a row
Lapoiinte911 lol not they seen lmao. They are playing good teams here not the middle table teams that were at iem. Tsm > korea Kappa
Dias Benes Fnatic is not a western team.
Lapoiinte911 Nah i dont think so , they've tried everything and proved they are actually a really underdog after all.
Thane Soren Western = America, and Europe. So, yes Fnatic is a western team.
Spoilers:
As a huge tsm/dyrus fan, i am pissed the hell off by both the pick and ban phases and how dyrus keeps playing the same 1 dimensional style on carry top laners. He keeps pushing waves and drawing jungle pressure, which is the opposite of what he wants. also the chogath pick just doesnt work at the international level. TSM went into msi cocky as hell and for this reason got shit on by teams other than the wildcard team. Extremely letdown by tsm.
Dyrus should change his name , like " Pls Dont Camp Top "
Willer Kilo He should change his name to Period, cus he's always First Blood. ;D
Willer Kilo Maybe if he didn't suck ass they wouldn't be camping his lane for free kills.
I know that looking back is always 20/20 but I just think it's funny that the comment section for epicskillshot videos has better video dissection and understanding of what needs to be done for the next games of any losing team regardless of who it is FNC TSM or otherwise. Although replay videos tend to be viewed only by people who a: missed it or b: enjoy analyzing.
Hope TSM will make a video on MSI. The plays here were so off compared to how they were in the finals playoffs. Maybe it shows a better team can capitalize on their mistakes better than the teams in NA.
The crab at 15:45 refuse to ward dragon.. :(
AHQ: Lets play a rape game
TSM: No?
AHQ: Thats the fcking spirit
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In every MSI game so far, Santoran has been a nonfactor for the team. He didn't do anything at all every single game. You know somethings wrong when the jungle is the one that is least involved in fights. Not only did he not help dyrus at all, he didn't even help bjerg this time either. Every game, the enemy jung wins the game for them against tsm. Wtf happened to the lcs santoran?
Semi final: ahg edg skt and fnatic
OFC SPOILER (comment section duh)
Ok i already talk in some video before about some of TSM problems but now i want to focus on 2 players: Dyrus and Santorin.
I don't know the problem with Santorin but he just doesn't play really well...ok i'm wrong at the moment he is pretty much not in the game at all and i don't know why...stress?
But the biggest problem is Dyrus...why Hecarim Dyrus? Dyrus is the guy with most dead between ALL toplaner in MSI, he get focused and die. His focus are champion that support TSM so why pick a carry top like hecarim? I'm a main top too and i know that if you try to play something that you don't know very well you lose and if hecarim doesn't get gold he is useless.
I don't want to be mean but...i think TSM need a different top laner because Dyrus is too weak compared to other players.
You might as well replace him after all stars or s5 but the question is,who is going to replace him
Kyle Calairo They can buy Zion Spartan :P. He wanted to join TSM > CLG anyways.
But honestly, I think TSM's team comps suck at the moment. Cho'Gath does nothing, beyond outlaning. Santorin and Lustboy constantly play tanks, and Dyrus can't play high damage champs. TSM are playing the wrong tank champs for the current meta and just have no chance to perform well. Why is Bjergsen, the midlaner known for winning lane every time with solo 1v1s, playing passive champions that are only there for the lane phase? He can't take his advantages outside the lane.
***** dyrus can carry the team if they helped him, if you saw how TSM changed strategy since Santorin
joined, TSM jungler now in mid and bot lane only, and they left Dyrus alone
also in picks and bans, its all from coach, not dyrus fault for that. hecarim pick
( thats why Crumbs left DIG team )
i believe the main problem for TSM stepdown is: jungler
he is 0 skills, and i mean it, he cant make one single play
and his ganks so lame
also if you see the analyst disk after this match, they blame Jungler for all of the TSM matches lost
i dont say Dyrus is the best, or i'm Dyrus blind super fan
dyrus did alot of mistakes, but if you see it again you gonna know that he want to do somthing while his team left him top or bot lane alone
dyrus is fighter
so, i wish they can replace Santorin after World Champ
* i hope i dont see Bjergsen with Cho'gath again -.- *
Zack ZakTM tsm zion confirmed
cho gath pick makes me facepalm every time. it's only good vs zed because you 100% hit q if he ults you.
blindspottrs Thank you! I hate it!
When is dyrone getting benched? Time for him to take a fooking seat.
To those who say TSM is bad. They are one of the two teams who beat SSW at worlds last season.
but they just get rekt.
*****
Quit that. That's just sad. TSM has royally messed up here. I'm not going to say they're bad over all as a team, but at MSI they might as well be a wild card team. This isn't TSM, this is Dark Passage or something.
***** They won one game , and got stomped next three games by SSW .
***** SSW trolled hard on picks and bans on that game, I still remember.
Murieta
I wish we could forget. But yea, they got trolled and won 1 game. :(
謝謝AHQ~你們證明Taiwan不是弱區!!!
dyrus on a carry bjergsen on fking cho gath....same reason they lost vs fnc
Their picks and bans were not very bad, horse can force fights Bjg wanted to counter Westdoor ,jg is a good pick but most of picks they chose showed that they didn't have the same level of skills compare to Ahq, especially Top Jg and AD ,they even didnt ban Westdoor's fizz this guy is a god with fizz, Urgot is An's main ad that he won LMS with it, so after the p/b i knew TSM had no chance to win.
i think they need to switch dyrus for impact and wildtrutle for piglet if tsm really wanna "try" to win worlds...
Spoilers:
Mistakes.....Mistakes..... and more mistakes. Seriously TSM need to fix their problems. If they can fix their problems before worlds they would have a big chance in winning.
PsychicBeats
Winning what? A game? Not the whole worlds. Even if they played how they normally do when the pressure isn't thick, they wouldn't have probably won MSI. I believe they would have been top 3, but not won. I don't overhype TSM, but what they've done at MSI is overly depressing. TSM fan crushed here (and I know they are probably pretty damn sad themselves). :(
Crazyz Probably at least make it to the semi finals like last year or at least put up a fight. I don't overhype TSM either and yes what they have been doing this MSI has been really depressing. I'm sure a bunch of TSM Fans are sad right now. But I just hope they reach certain goals before worlds which will at least give them TSM fans some true hype rather than....this false hype.
Dyrus should change his name to Period, cus he's always First Blood. ;D
Dyrusyndrome OP~
Fans were so quiet near the end of the game
36:34 FreeSM.
+MarchBird TheHomie You know that you have achieved 100% troll success when someone busts out the mom jokes. FreeSM son! lol
dyrus + bench + veteran top laner = TSM winning
Aster Hal Dyrus IS a veteran top laner.
what do you mean ziv can just team fight you dont follow lms enough he has really good individual skills...
Finally we can all legitimately say FREESM!
what are they holding in their hands during the ban
I remember a long time ago season 3 tsm and others said Koreans were on a whole another level than anyone else but then season 4 they said that was a misconception. I still hold firm to the original belief to this day lol wtf guys
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AHQ to worlds 2015 ^
TSM TSM TSM.. #TSMFORWORLDS wahahahhahahaha
4 I am definately NOT a TSM fan but I have to admit Dyrus dies a lot. The reasoning for this is that TSM use this tactic in NA to get the upper hand somewhere else on the map. While it might be true it works in NA LCS, you can't simply import this tactic against world class teams and expect it to work again.
The BIGGEST weakness overall in TSM lies within their tactic. It's not a strong tactic to isolate your top laner and let him die to then focus on the duo lane getting strong on this world class level. You MUST make something happen but that's definately not the case. If your duo lane gets outclassed, your solo laner dies by getting camped, mid lane becomes a farm lane and the jungler has no control over his own jungle... What will you do?
~ Words from a C9
Well done by AHQ
I never expect ahq to be like this in msi ... well expect the unexpected i guess ... poor tsm
vermon cagasan chinese taipai won season 2 worlds why would you expect there number one team to not do well??
vermon cagasan AHQ surprised everyone at worlds by beating EDG, they're definitely a team that no one should underestimate
Can we all just agree that Dyrus NEVER had a good game on a carry toplaner? Although, honestly, this time I wanna blame turtle. That teamfight when they gave a triple to urgot, just cause turtle decided to jump in 1v4 gave ahq the lead they needed to steamroll the rest of the game. Bjerg dies too easily with no mobility, Santorin is just... Eh, kinda underwhelming. He's nowhere to be seen during the laning phase. Come on tsm, you guys can do better...
I feel bad, TSM CHOKE @cosign
Ziv太猛……
西門好sup
What languages does the Garena league speak usually, AHQ/TPA...
chinese
Bob Bobby AHQ & TPA are not in Garena Premier League anymore because they are not real South East Asia (like Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia). They are now playing in LMS (League Master Series) which contain team from Taiwan, Hong-Kong and Macao. They speaks mandarin Chinese.
Thanks
Another great example of why Bjerg is so freaking overrated.
He can win early against a fizz YAY.... lol. As soon as it becomes anywhere near even he gets rekt.
I have changed my opinion, Bjerg is not only outside the top 5 mids in the world, he is outside the top 10
what a slaughter holy shit
Gg ez
U guys talks about tsm bad why don't talk about ahq is good
Where is AHQ located?
Ibrahim Bahakim taiwan. they used to play on gpl or garena premier league. but they always win if not taipei assassins. so teams from taiwan and hongkong and macao left gpl (because gpl is the weakest tournament in asia) and formed their own league called lms or league of legends master series.
aha I see, thanks bless you :p
textmachine09 AHQ >FW>HKES>TPA...on LMS ..
I mean, Its not even that they lost to every team besides wildcard, but goddamn they got curbstomped in every single game. What a freaking embarrasment.
Im really hating this Cho gath pick for bjerg, he cant make any plays which is a huge loss for them
好看
Asian mode is happen to be here again ... Poor TSM
I want TSM win ... god please ... my favourite team for the last 2 years ... till now
Dont let them say we are FREE-SM
They just all get fcked just stay true to you ... (Eminem... relyric)...
pffff TSM coach and players were talking about winning worlds's xD, man .... FNC showed a better fight, daaime this AHQ team is sooooooo good
darius needs to retire.. hes like tsm biggest weakness.. its sad to see the teams taking advantage of him
koog008 Sadly, they took advantage of every single TSM player all game long. I'd day Bjerg's performance was even worse than dyrus' in this match.
koog008 Wildturtle is a shame to watch aswell...
Ok, TSM Zionspartan Inc.
Some people said ''Bjergsen>Westdoor'''but its actually Westdoor>Bjergsen (Salty Tsm fangirls at worlds tsm is going to get stomped again by everyone)
FREE SM or Team Solo Feed
SEA>NA confirmed.
This australian caster .. said reksai with a machete can solo a drag at lvl 3 ... Ok ............
ZionSpartan in TSM please. And carries for bjergsen
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Problems solved.
TIMxisxHERE ayyy lmao you see Westdoor's Chogath? Did that shut your whining about chogath up?
ahq is the best in the world
How to beat TSM ?
Farm kills on Toplane :D
不要不要 飛斯好了
TSM should just pack up and leave the tournament
Spoiler
What a rape seriously,
Dyrius pack ur thing plz u made it to ur limit,
how turte made it to rank 1 na really messing with my sense of logic.
sadly na is weaker then EU
Westdoorbjergsen wtf!!!
Come on Dyrus just.. retire bro.
Man, faker confirmed never gna pls Leblanc, forever banned
Bench dyrus, he's worse than Hai
so dyrus needs to stop playing champs he doesnt know how to play and just go back to what he knows best which is tanks and burgerking needs to start playing better carry champs and not cho or ziggs
Is TSM trolling ? Because they have decaded from they're old style (pick tank, ap carry , ad carry + win lane! & dragon) and they are playing foolishly. It's like I am seeing a bad Complexity game ...
AHQ/TPA come from Taiwan Asia teams is no one weaker
Welp if you want to rub something in a TSM's fans face show them this torney
Lol tsm is so weak now
tsm botlane is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo overated
haha
troll a
rekt
Tsm what a joke
tsm so bad go back to bronce pls
BAHAHAHA
FIRZT
SPOILER ALERT:
Be ready for BLACK SKT SKINS WORTH OF 1350 RP EACH.
SKT MAOKAI or RUMBLE
SKT REK SAI
SKT LEBLANC
SKT SIVIR or KALISTA
SKT ALISTAR.
& Dyrus sucks balls, never been a fan of him specially he's a trashtalker just like Doublelift and TSM you gotta see that your strategy for Dyrus isn't working against other regions because its only in NA where Dyrus can do that while other lanes are winning. #SKTSEASON5
TSM needs to get there shit togethar and play zed and lb and every other assassin. berg cant play passive champs, hes good on high mobile champs, lustboy sucks totall ass he can land hooks, thats it, kalista is a trash champ, wild turtle needs to stay on sivir corki bc he has the worst postioning. santorin needs to get his shit off gragas and play his god like rek sai. and dryus needs to learn to not get ganked and run flash and gank right, like that fight TF was an ez win if he didnt go around bc cho would have lived and started to rekt, plus FULL AP cho is trash, rod tank cho is the best bc the only things that made cho a good champ is the heavy cc in the kit, plus he has sustain for his ult.
horuslv864 You had me until "kalista is a trash champ"
totally personal lol, shes 2 hard to set going, solo q is a pain, shes like one of those glass cannon champs, like u ethier get here rolling or she falls behind really hard. "trash" as in pretty much hard to play and use right.
CoBeX31 i guess he meant turtle's performance on her, since Deft completely proved kalista is actually op in th right hands. But yeah, turtle has had bad positioning with her, and I really miss bjerg's ahri, lb, zed and other assassins, and since the team works best with santorin and dyrus on tanks, i think lustbuy should feel free to run a morgana, an annie, even his godly nami
adrianoadj Deft's Kalista is not even considered top 3. SKT Bang's Kalista is a pick/ban versus him. He never lost a game on her competitively, hence why he is the most successful Kalista atm.
indeed, thank you for bringing that up