Lol I could tell by your edit you already watched the Lion and the Rose. So funny what you do in the editing. My favorite is when you include when you're so wrong
@@xnareglans3982 No, they really shouldn't watch any GoT related content before they have seen the show - YT would start to push them spoilers faster than they could blink.
It's funny hearing them say, "That's the guy from Last of Us!" while the rest say on TLOU, "That's Oberyn Martell!". Oberyn is Pedro Pascal's breakout role. After Game of Thrones, he was then cast in Narcos, Madalorian and The Last of Us.
The sword that was melted is Ice, Ned's valyrian greatsword, passed down through generations of Starks. Also it was Ned's own sword which was used to behead him, who was branded a traitor, just as he had used it to behead those he branded as traitors.
Beheaded with your own ancestral sword. What a way to go :( Then to have that sword melted down and used by such snakes as the Lannisters. Insult to injury
he makes a huge impression in storm of swords, especially considering he's in only about a third of the book. i think he has line in only 4 chapters of storm if i recall.
Spartan is right, tormund (red hair guy) was not there when ygritte shot Jon. She did it as she was hurting, so releasing that pain but not killing him cause she loves him
Oberyn went to kings landing in the first place at this time is because he was irritated by what happened at the red wedding. Pedro pascal has huge range GOT’s Oberyn is a testimony of that as you mentioned very different from the last of us as well as older work such as The Equalizer 2 , The Mandalorian , Narcos among many more. The man can do action, drama, comedy, horror, science fiction, f good guy, villain , half villain, warrior, thief not to mention he is respected and loved by all his costars and everyone who met him, What can’t this man do is the question!
Yeah, he acts different with each role. Unlike others that seem like to play as themselves, making the acting similar and all you can see is the actor, not the character.
Jamie loves cersei bc he trully loves her. Cersei only uses Jaime, and “like” him bc he remembers her of herself. She is so narcissistic that she is in love with the way Jaime looks like her. In the books is pretty noticeable the way they think about each other.
@@dreamfyre3868 Yep, book!Cersei's feelings about Jaime are complicated because she feels trapped in her patriarchal role and wants to be a man (or at least treated equal to men). Therefore, her feelings for Jaime are a muddled mix of feeling so connected to him because his is her twin and she believes they a unit and not individuals. But also madly jealous of the opportunities he has because he is a man. And also dismissive of him because she believes she has the stronger personality of the two, and disdainful because he lets her completely manipulate him. I can't remember if she says it in the books or show or both, but she believes she is the "son" - the heir - that her father should have had. And she holds it against both Jaime and Tyrion that her father - and the world at large - doesn't recognize this.
Daenerys having trouble with the dragons makes so much sense since you guys watched HOTD and saw how things were before. The other Targaryens had a dragonpit and special trainers and dragons tamed since birth. Daenerys is literally creating her own rules and trying to come up with stuff on the spot to train them like inventing "Dracarys" and other Valyrian commands. To add to it, she is dealing with three dragons personally bonded to her like a mother rather than a single dragon/dragonrider bond. I like to interpret their disobedience as also fussy children and later rebellious teenagers lol.
Truth. If anything, though we didn't see much of him, Robb was more like Brandon Stark than Ned in terms of personality based on what we hear about Brandon before he died and Robert's Rebellion.
Sansa and Tyrion got a shotgun wedding just to secure the north which is why Tywin was so set on the consumation because they need a child of Stark blood to rule after Sansa. The Red Wedding was either already planned at that point or being planned
She's not asking why they are being married (that's the obvious part), but why do their wedding before Joffery's, the reasons you give can still go into motion after the Royal wedding, I mean they already have Sansa anyway so why the haste? Sansa is Lady Lannister now, that means she won't be ruling Winterfell, and her first born son would be heir to Casterly Rock, not Winterfell and there's a 50/50 chance she gives birth to a dwarf and we know how Tywin would feel about that...
@@drenzik6284 Having Sansa now doesn't guarantee that they would have her later. It was rushed to guarantee the union would go through. And it was not something that needed to be big and glamorous like a royal wedding so it didn't need to wait.
@@Golladan Ah, she's still a prisoner, even after the 'union', how does that guarantee that they will have her later, even Tyrion will have to rape her to have anything going with her, seriously how?...
@@drenzik6284 It actually doesn't matter what her name is if she is next inline to nherit. She would get Winterfell by the laws if succession and Tyrion as her husband would rule after her. That's how feudal inheritance works. They did it suddenly nd without warning for the reasons above as well as to forestall the Tyrell plot. Also the Lannisters are paranoid and they didnt want someone else to steal her away and beat them to the punch which to be fair the Tyrell's almost did.
The cold open tells a fascinating story. We see the Blacksmith making the two swords from Ned's sword Ice as the slow and mournful Stark theme plays, which picks up pace and transforms into the Lannister theme as it cuts to Tywin sinisterly putting a symbolic nail on the Stark coffin by throwing the wolf carcass into the fire. And yes I know that's not how swords are actually forged, but the scene is aesthetically awesome🤷♂️. Jaime...the one man in Westeros who can say no to Tywin's face and live to tell the tale. The favorite son. Very different vibe from Tyrion's talk with Tywin at the beginning of last season.
Idk if you noticed at the end, Arya got her sword and her horse that she wanted, along with a bit of revenge. And the hound got his chicken. It was a “happy ending” to their previous scenes. I thought it was a nice way to start the season, ending the first episode with a point for team stark. Although it’s a small victory, it’s a victory nonetheless. We deserved that after end of the last season. That’s how I looked at it, anyway.
Notice the subtle differences in Sansa’s beliefs. She always wanted to be a southerner where they worship the Seven, and yet she went to the Godswood where her father would have prayed. It’s possibly the only place she can connect to the north in king’s landing. And then her hair, too. She’s no longer wearing it like a southern lady (all fancy and up) but rather down like how she wore it in the first few episodes. Oh, and with Sansa and Tyrion being married earlier - Tywin had already planned the Red Wedding beforehand and needed the two married for an heir to be born ASAP. Joffrey and Margery’s wedding was always planned to happen after the main war was over, which was mainly the one with Robb for that. And then Cersei and Loras’s was planned to happen after Joffrey’s.
don't expect consistent good things... this show is a perfect combination of beauty and devastation and you're better off embracing both the beauty and the devastation
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 I disagree about the constant disappointment - there are many more great moments to come in the next 4 seasons. But I agree with the second part - this show isn't your typical good guy wins and bad guy loses kinda show, the good guys win and lose and the bad guys win and lose, which makes this show unpredictable and a pleasure to watch.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 You're out of your mind if you think this is constant disappointment and only the heroes losing. No one would watch this show if it was just predictable misery porn. Heroes can win just as easily as the villains can in GoT. It's just that no one is guaranteed to win.
Tywin did have a slight smirk when melting down the greatsword Ice, Ned's valyrian sword. He most likely gets a kick out of being victorious over other ancient houses and annihilating all traces of them. The way he dealt with his father's vassals house Reyne of Castamere was a similar instance and it is said it was one of the few times in his life where he genuienly smiled, though not warmly of course.
@@stanmann356 At least not for a long time. They did have Brightroar, purchased from Valyria while it still existed, but a fumbling Lannister king lost it while adventuring at sea.
@@alexanderb5726 True. And in the books Tywin had been trying to obtain another Valyrian steel sword for quite some time. (Isn't Tywin's youngest brother sailing the world in search of Brightroar?)
@@jcompton8507 Gerion yeah, the "funny brother" who took nothing seriously, he boarded the "laughing lion" ship in Lannisport when Tyrion was a boy but hasn't been seen since. He was one of the few who was kind to Tyrion growing up.
A smirk would need a slight twist of the mouth, it was actually more a smug look of satisfaction, as he'd finally replaced his family's lost Valyrian sword, as well as all but extinguished the Stark family line. Insult after insult, after insult, after injury. 💔😭
Another way of looking at from Roose Bolton's POV (don't get me wrong I despise the Boltons, but...) : he started to see that despite his early successes, Robb was making bad judgement calls all over the place, and an experienced military man would probably have been able to deduce that Robb's likelihood of winning the war was fading rapidly after doing things like breaking his oath to House Frey, and losing all of the Karstark men. So, if you're Roose Bolton, you eventually have a choice land right in your lap courtesy of Tywin Lannister - stay loyal to your liege lord and if, as signs are indicating, he loses the war, your head can be mounted beside his in Kings Landing and your house will face ruin. OR, betray your liege lord, switch sides, and be rewarded with the wardenship of the entire North, a move that will immediately make your house much more powerful. I will always hate Bolton and his decision, but it can't be argued that it was not a smart and pragmatic one from the point of view of his and his house's survival and prosperity.
Not only that but even if Robb was successful Bolton knows he wouldn't be allowed to do that torture stuff that's on his banners. Robb was good at tactics, but not so good at politics. I've gotta say that story plays on our expectation that everything will work out alright for the heroes, because true love and all that. Of course Talisa is a perfect match for Robb, everything'll be just fine and - ope guess not.
There is also a rivalry that spans millennia between the Starks and the Boltons. The Starks and the Boltons are both descended from the First Men, and both were Kings in their own right in the past - the Kings of Winter and the Red Kings, respectively. They fought each other time and again, and eventually the Boltons surrendered to the Starks and became vassals of Winterfell. It was at this time that the Starks decreed that the Boltons could no longer flay men. The Boltons have been biding their time to make their move against the Starks.
@@Golladan yup...in the books you see this playing out. How Roose cosntantly holds his men back and does little things that constant;y sacrifice other northerners more loyal to house Stark. At the wedding, all the Boltons and Karstarks and Freys knew what was up, everyu other Stark bannermen was getting sloshed and drunk....
Pedro Pascal is a great actor. He seems to play all these different roles without effort. In fact, when the crew was asked who is sharing the most characteristic with the character they are portraying, they named Peter Dinklage being as intelligent and witty as Tyrion and Pedro Pascal being a party animal.
I’d say actors adapt to their role, in a similar way people adapt to the other people around them in their environment (if you hang out a lot with someone who uses unique slang words a lot, you might find yourself saying them, too, for example), but I don’t know for certain.
Pedro Pascal is an amazing actor, and his characters in GOT and TLOU could NOT be more different...except their love for their families being so fierce. LOVE Pedro.
That scene with the Hound & Arya is one of the best. Their banter, and his dry smack talk with Poliver before you know what is coming is just too good.
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One of those guys from the Nights Watch was actually the person who controlled the City Watch in Season 1 and murdered Roberts Bastards and got sent to The Wall by Tyrion early in Season 2.
What a great end to the episode - Arya got to strike a name off her list and she got her own horse, while The Hound got his chickens 😊 I love those two together.
When Arya gets her first vengeance kill and jaqen h’ghars theme plays in the background as she’s filling with dopamine watching him just gives me chills
Tywin was very serious at the beginning, no nonsense here from his part. He understands well a meaning of symbolism at his level (kings, wardens, hands to the king, etc.). Valyrian sword is a very rare thing, and these families, who owns one, treasure them. Even the ones which lack money, sell everything but the Valyrian steel swords. And Lannister family never had one. Tywin waits until everything is finished with Starks and only then proceeds with melting the sword. They could melt the sword before (had it since Season 1). Now Stark family is gone, Tywin made sure of it. Here follows burning of a wolf's fur, a very symbolic action, as wolf is a sigil of House Stark. And here comes the time to get a new Valyrian sword into Lannister family.
Actually, the Lannister family did once have their own House Valyrian Steel sword; it was called "Brightroar", but it was lost a few generations back when an adventurous Lannister took it on a sea voyage, never to be heard of again. The loss has always rankled Tywin, who believes it diminishes the status of his House not to possess such an heirloom.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 Cool, I probably knew that some time ago, but forgot it. "Adventurous Lannister" rings some bells now, thanks for reminding me of it.
You heard in passing in the early seasons and histories and lores that when King's Landing fell the Lannister army butchered all the Targaryens and Tywin had the two children of the Targaryen Crown Prince dragged out of their beds and put to the sword. Well now you're hearing the same story from the mother's side, Elia Martell of Dorne, who was also killed during the sack of the city. Oberyn is her brother. Pedro Pascal has played some amazing characters in some great shows from Narcos to Mandalorian..but this one just might have his most memorable moment🤐
Tormund wasn't there when she shot him. She just wanted to hurt him because he hurt her, but didn't have it in her to kill him. She's just heart broken.
The Unsullied have Spartan attributes, but they are much more closely modelled off the Persian Immortals that fought the Spartans at Thermopylae. Old Ghis in GoT is their stand in for the Ancient Persian empires, with Valyria as George's Rome.
Ser Dontos, the guy who gives the necklace to Sansa, is the last member of House Hollard who had their lands taken away and all of its members executed for taking part in kidnapping the Mad King during what is called the Defiance of Duskendale. Ser Dontos was only a child when it happened and he was only spared because Ser Barristan asked and the Mad King granted this favor since Ser Barristan was the one who saved the king.
"The Lannisters aren't the only ones that pay their debts" one of my all-time favorite quotes. This is my favorite GoT episode with two of my favorite characters - Tywin Lannister and Oberyn Martell the Red Viper of Dorne.
My favorite part off that last scene with Arya getting needle back, is that she waited until he remembered, to kill him. She wanted him to know who she was and what he did.
"People love their king." "They know I saved the city, they know I won the war" and Jaime silently replying "the war is not won". That's how the trailer of Season 4 starts and everyone did the CJ from San Andreas "awww shit here we go again" thinking about how Joffrey is going to troll us for another season 😂. Both the OG trailer and the DVD/blueray trailer feat. Hozier are fantastic. A very uncanny feel to them. The Hozier trailer might be my favorite GoT trailer. Fitting for the GOAT season.
The writer has said in this stage the dragons are teenagers so they are extra rebellious, yes you can’t fully control them but because she’s their mom, they can listen.
Spartan is forever respected for having Tywin on his love list. We all love a good antihero! Arya was never going to help the hound. How would it look if a little girl had to help someone like the hound in a fighting match. She also has a very different outlook on her guardian then we do, so there’s that. Great reaction as always.
I found your channel when you were well through watching season 2 of GoT I think, and I gotta say I love watching along and being witness to your GoT journey. What an awesome show, and you guys are really diving in deep, what a treat for us GoT lovers! Thank you!
Robb's mistakes? Well, not going through with the marriage pact was a big one. Not just because it bent Walder Frey out of shape, but if Robb could go back on his word, a vow that evoked the gods no less, then what wouldn't he go back on? ALL of Robb's bannermen might wonder about that. It definitely opened Robb up towards potential betrayal, something Tywin Lannister was eager and quick to take advantage of. Talisa the character is an invention of the show; but the situation still exists in the books. Robb's wife in the books was Jeyne Westerling, the daughter of one of the Lannister bannermen, whom Robb had taken the Westerling castle to enter the Westerlands to fight on Lannister ground. This was something of a 'Romeo and Juliet' element that the show didn't go for. I think that the dismay of Robb's bannermen over his wife would have made more sense if the writers had just followed the book. Personally, I think that Robb's first and biggest mistake was in allowing himself to become 'King of the North'. When I read the novel, I was initially aghast at it, because it's something Ned would have never done--and he had the opportunity. Robert became king, Ned did not become King of the North. Robb basically turned his back on what his father was imprisoned for and executed for, whether he realized it or not. Becoming King of the North was great for morale and cohesion of the forces early on, but would later act as a wedge between Robb and some of his bannermen and also against potential allies. Honestly, keeping Jaime alive was more trouble than it was worth. Jaime Lannister might not have all of Tyrion's gifts, but he proved quite capable of getting under people's skin. Just as Tyrion could drive divisions against his captors in the heart of the Arryn power; Jaime could ultimately do the same. The Karstark issue over those two Lannister boys was fairly ridiculous. Unfortunately, it might have been the honorable and just--if harsh--response to the murders of captives, but what is done in peace and what is done in war can be two different things. Robb lost a terribly important bannerman. Robb might have listened to his bannermen better. Karstark and Bolton were free with their advice, but Robb rarely paid much heed. Robb didn't communicate his plans well, leading to the problem with his Tully uncle. Again, Robb was willing to let them put a crown on his head which suggests insufficient planning and goals, allowing the bannermen to project their own 'national pride' onto him and his effort; yet, once he allowed them to do that, he no longer paid them much mind.
Tyrions speech to Sansa is one of the greatest pieces of acting ever. Mostly because everyone missed the meaning. Hear me out. Watch it again when not so emotional. Literally every compliment Tyrion gives to Sansa about her mother is Cersi. They are the only things he likes about Cersi as stated in season 2. He was talking about his sister in the same breath.
There are a number of factors at play as to why Sansa and Tyrion were quickly wed before the royal wedding. One main reason is Tywin's multi level plan to secure the North. Cersei's spies had figured out that the Tyrell's planned to marry Sansa off after Joffrey married Margaery. Tywin states that he wouldn't allow Sansa to "be taken from him", so it's reasonable to deduce that he planned to marry her off to someone after the war and Joffrey's wedding. Timing therefore was of the essence if he was going to beat the Tyrells to the punch. Another smaller reason was that the royal wedding was more of a big deal and required more work, planning and guest travel. Sansa's wedding to Tyrion was a political maneuver that could be done and over with quickly.
I think this is my favorite opening episode for any season. Nice symmetry to it. It starts with two swords, one larger, one smaller, and it ends with the same. Well, see you at the reception. It should be just lovely.
This is probably the best season of the show. Perfect mix of writing and production value. Before the show became more about the spectacle and the writers felt that they could do no wrong.
Yes, I think they gloried in their success for the later seasons. But I think they were also bitter and angry that GRRM hadn't finished the books to give them more source material to work with. And you can tell. It all feels a bit tinged with an "I don't give a f*ck about this story and its finer details anymore" attitude towards the writing of it.
@@jcompton8507 What's worse is they actually didn't "ran out of books to adapt", that's a popular thing people say but that's not what happened. After season 4 (end of book 3), they pretty much stopped paying attention to the books and started inventing their own shit. Books 4 and 5 could have been two seasons each, but instead they loosely glanced over both of them in season 5, and than people started saying they "ran out of books", NO they didn't, they IGNORED them. D&D are morons and deserve no sympathy.
@@RYPA190 Yeah...there is a ton of material from Books 4 and 5 that they didn't even bother to try to adapt - the Dorne plot, the Greyjoy plot, Young Griff, Lady Stoneheart... I completely understand why George was so upset.
Pudgey saying how she still crys at the red wedding scene and then getting emotional as Spartan talks about it. 🤣 idk I think pudgey may to be innocent to keep watching this
It’s funny how when watching GoT for the first time, we saw this episode and we’re like “wow dragons are getting big” but after season 1 of HoTD it’s like “oh yeah these dragons are 4 years old and not hundreds of years old”
First time commenting but have been watching since first episode of hotd and love your reactions. This is my favourite season and I’m really excited to see what you guys think of it ❤🇬🇧
The sword is Ned’s sword, Ice. It’s Valyrian Steele, very rare in Westeros and there’s only a few people that know how to melt/reforge it. Tywin has found 1 such person to reforge it into 2 swords of which there will only be a few in all of Westeros
@@Fett411 It's in the books. Here's part of his ASOIAF wiki: "Tobho learned to smith in Qohor. He is one of the few armorers who can work Valyrian steel,[4] and claims to be the only armorer in King's Landing who can add tint to the metals in a suit of armor without using paint.[1] Ser Loras Tyrell and Lord Renly Baratheon are among the nobles who have purchased armor from Tobho... At Lord Tywin Lannister's request Tobho melts Eddard's Valyrian steel sword, Ice, to forge two new swords. The armorer admits that he tried to color the swords the crimson of House Lannister, but despite his spells the steel darkened to grey and red patterns.[4]"
@@Fett411 It's one of the main reasons there were so many fan theories that Gendry's skills would play a big role in making weapons to use against the Army of the Dead. And, as a descendent of the Baratheons, he is a genetic descendent of Targaryens and thus also Old Valyria...so with whatever magic is involved, he may be able to take the skills even further than Tobho Mott did??
Had to laugh a bit when you said, thats' the guy from The Last of Us. Everybody who saw GoT before The Mandalorian and The Last of Us will always say: Wait, ain't that Oberyn?
Glad to see you are still enjoying the show after the horror of the Red Wedding. It was terrible but memorable at the same time. Not many shows can carve such a deep wound in our memories. I think Tywin was smirking, he was losing the war at some point and it all turned around with just a few letters. We saw him doing it while talking with Cersei a while back. Such a good character, but here comes Oberyn Martel openly seeking vengeance. This season is really good so I can't wait to watch it with you. - Future Trunks USSJ in the middle of the background - mucho respect guys :D -
OMG just as they're also watching The Last of Us they also are watching this season. Also, Sansa's wedding occured first as they were preventing her to be married to Loras. Tywin said it.
In the books, it made even more sense because she was being married to Loras's older brother Willas, who was heir to Highgarden and not gay (as far as we know). So she would have been more likely to produce both the heirs to Highgarden and Winterfell, with the Tyrells having power/influence over both kingdoms and Margaery as Queen. Tywin was not going to let the Tyrells have what he wanted for the Lannisters.
Pedro Pascal said himself that role of Oberyn "mfing" Martell changed his carreer. It's been 9 years between season 4 and The Last Of US, it's interesting experience that you now watch the same actor in two shows separated by a decade.
They really did the Thenns dirty in the show. In the books they're by far the most civilized and well-organized wildlings with a strong social structure and technology like metalworking.
At the begenning, it was not Robb's sword, but Ned Stark's sword call "Ice". It is the biggest Valyrian steel's sword in the world (Two hands). That's the sword we see on ep 1 when Ned kill the deserter. And Ned was executed with is self sword.
This may have already been mentioned. The music in GoT is BRILLIANT. So pay attention to the musical cues. They are an important part of the storytelling. The music at the end of this episode was beautiful and emotional.
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Lol I could tell by your edit you already watched the Lion and the Rose. So funny what you do in the editing. My favorite is when you include when you're so wrong
Be careful with this seasons History and Lore, heavy spoilers for Hotd in the first 7 mins
After season 3 you really should watch "Honest Trailers Game of Thrones part 1"... good fun and only spoilers for season 1-3
right now i am watching reaction :D and Joffrey actor visiting my country (ukraine) right now, he gifted pickup car for army :)
@@xnareglans3982 No, they really shouldn't watch any GoT related content before they have seen the show - YT would start to push them spoilers faster than they could blink.
It's funny hearing them say, "That's the guy from Last of Us!" while the rest say on TLOU, "That's Oberyn Martell!". Oberyn is Pedro Pascal's breakout role. After Game of Thrones, he was then cast in Narcos, Madalorian and The Last of Us.
For me he will be always the sexy Oberyn Martell
It’s actually Neds sword and it’s called Ice. Such a slap in the face scene lol
the ancient family sword of house Stark is a better term :(
The ancestral sword of house Stark destroyed by Tywin. They took it from Ned after his arrest in Kings Landing.
And it was definitely a smirk-subtle, but it’s there.
It’s the look of self accomplishment a man gives himself when he knows he’s bettered another man
I remember this and folks at work kept saying the north remembers and I was like yeah wait and see lol book vs show watchers
The sword that was melted is Ice, Ned's valyrian greatsword, passed down through generations of Starks.
Also it was Ned's own sword which was used to behead him, who was branded a traitor, just as he had used it to behead those he branded as traitors.
Correct, there is little Valyrian left.
Beheaded with your own ancestral sword. What a way to go :(
Then to have that sword melted down and used by such snakes as the Lannisters. Insult to injury
@@KelappanKing yes, so sad. The sword was indeed heavy metal. So much irony.
**ba dum tss** forgive my puns 😅
Was ice
@@soulscyther666 😂😂😂
"Tell your father I'm here. And tell him the Lannisters aren't the only ones who pay their debts." such a cold line, i love oberin lol
One of the greatest characters in GoT. Such a badass 👍
Me too!!
@@chrisb.2178 And pretty much led to the spike of Pedro Pascal in media today. So 100% a win, dude is so fucking good
@@Mrryn it's funny to me that they saw him and said hey the guy from TLOU when the rest of us saw him in TLOU and said hey the guy from GOT 😂
@@Mrryn Perfect casting choice
Ahhh Oberyn Martell. One of my favorite characters in the book. Yall are going to love him this season
he makes a huge impression in storm of swords, especially considering he's in only about a third of the book. i think he has line in only 4 chapters of storm if i recall.
Yeah, i wished better for him. He was supposed to be the GOAT.
He’s in my top 3 of all time
He's the only character I named my favorite.
Spartan is right, tormund (red hair guy) was not there when ygritte shot Jon. She did it as she was hurting, so releasing that pain but not killing him cause she loves him
Lol, finally a time when Spartan was right xD
Oh she was so SSSuuurree Tormund was there 😂
@@mannyram9717 She was so convinced I almost went to look. Then I thought no, I've seen that moment half a hundred times. If not more.
Oberyn went to kings landing in the first place at this time is because he was irritated by what happened at the red wedding. Pedro pascal has huge range GOT’s Oberyn is a testimony of that as you mentioned very different from the last of us as well as older work such as The Equalizer 2 , The Mandalorian , Narcos among many more. The man can do action, drama, comedy, horror, science fiction, f good guy, villain , half villain, warrior, thief not to mention he is respected and loved by all his costars and everyone who met him, What can’t this man do is the question!
There is ZERO evidence, both in the books and show that Oberyn cared about the red wedding
Yeah, he acts different with each role. Unlike others that seem like to play as themselves, making the acting similar and all you can see is the actor, not the character.
Finally :D Oberyn is very needed character after death of starks, one of best characters in GoT
Jamie loves cersei bc he trully loves her. Cersei only uses Jaime, and “like” him bc he remembers her of herself. She is so narcissistic that she is in love with the way Jaime looks like her.
In the books is pretty noticeable the way they think about each other.
Yeah he literally said to Brienne like 10 episodes ago that we dont choose who we love
You have some points but don’t compare book cersei with show cersei. show!cersei truly loves jaime in her own way.
@@dreamfyre3868 Yep, book!Cersei's feelings about Jaime are complicated because she feels trapped in her patriarchal role and wants to be a man (or at least treated equal to men). Therefore, her feelings for Jaime are a muddled mix of feeling so connected to him because his is her twin and she believes they a unit and not individuals. But also madly jealous of the opportunities he has because he is a man. And also dismissive of him because she believes she has the stronger personality of the two, and disdainful because he lets her completely manipulate him.
I can't remember if she says it in the books or show or both, but she believes she is the "son" - the heir - that her father should have had. And she holds it against both Jaime and Tyrion that her father - and the world at large - doesn't recognize this.
@@jcompton8507 Can’t wait to read the books, in like 15 years, when my kids grow up so I have time 😝 Did he even finish them? Maybe by then…
@@tangerine4665 Well, no rush I suppose. It's been 12 years or so since the last book. I doubt he can finish the next two withing 15 years.
Daenerys having trouble with the dragons makes so much sense since you guys watched HOTD and saw how things were before. The other Targaryens had a dragonpit and special trainers and dragons tamed since birth.
Daenerys is literally creating her own rules and trying to come up with stuff on the spot to train them like inventing "Dracarys" and other Valyrian commands. To add to it, she is dealing with three dragons personally bonded to her like a mother rather than a single dragon/dragonrider bond. I like to interpret their disobedience as also fussy children and later rebellious teenagers lol.
Jon is more like Ned Stark than the other siblings, even Rob.
100%
Facts!
no
Yup. He's so much like him. I love Jon Snow so much.
Truth. If anything, though we didn't see much of him, Robb was more like Brandon Stark than Ned in terms of personality based on what we hear about Brandon before he died and Robert's Rebellion.
Sansa and Tyrion got a shotgun wedding just to secure the north which is why Tywin was so set on the consumation because they need a child of Stark blood to rule after Sansa. The Red Wedding was either already planned at that point or being planned
Shotgun weddings happen BECAUSE of pregnancy.
She's not asking why they are being married (that's the obvious part), but why do their wedding before Joffery's, the reasons you give can still go into motion after the Royal wedding, I mean they already have Sansa anyway so why the haste? Sansa is Lady Lannister now, that means she won't be ruling Winterfell, and her first born son would be heir to Casterly Rock, not Winterfell and there's a 50/50 chance she gives birth to a dwarf and we know how Tywin would feel about that...
@@drenzik6284 Having Sansa now doesn't guarantee that they would have her later. It was rushed to guarantee the union would go through. And it was not something that needed to be big and glamorous like a royal wedding so it didn't need to wait.
@@Golladan Ah, she's still a prisoner, even after the 'union', how does that guarantee that they will have her later, even Tyrion will have to rape her to have anything going with her, seriously how?...
@@drenzik6284 It actually doesn't matter what her name is if she is next inline to nherit. She would get Winterfell by the laws if succession and Tyrion as her husband would rule after her. That's how feudal inheritance works. They did it suddenly nd without warning for the reasons above as well as to forestall the Tyrell plot. Also the Lannisters are paranoid and they didnt want someone else to steal her away and beat them to the punch which to be fair the Tyrell's almost did.
I could watch a whole show that was only Arya and the Hound - easily my favorite POV group in GoT!
best duo on the show tbh then Brienne and Jamie next
Bronn and Tyrion are up there too
Arya and Tywin toooo
Or Queen of Thorns and...anyone, she makes every scene fantastic
Agreed! Also love Jaime and Bronn as a duo, along with Brienne and Podrick.
Pudgey isn't having any of that Tywin nonsense lol. Season 4 really is excellent... fun re-watching these with other eyes
The cold open tells a fascinating story. We see the Blacksmith making the two swords from Ned's sword Ice as the slow and mournful Stark theme plays, which picks up pace and transforms into the Lannister theme as it cuts to Tywin sinisterly putting a symbolic nail on the Stark coffin by throwing the wolf carcass into the fire. And yes I know that's not how swords are actually forged, but the scene is aesthetically awesome🤷♂️. Jaime...the one man in Westeros who can say no to Tywin's face and live to tell the tale. The favorite son. Very different vibe from Tyrion's talk with Tywin at the beginning of last season.
Idk if you noticed at the end, Arya got her sword and her horse that she wanted, along with a bit of revenge. And the hound got his chicken. It was a “happy ending” to their previous scenes.
I thought it was a nice way to start the season, ending the first episode with a point for team stark. Although it’s a small victory, it’s a victory nonetheless. We deserved that after end of the last season. That’s how I looked at it, anyway.
Notice the subtle differences in Sansa’s beliefs. She always wanted to be a southerner where they worship the Seven, and yet she went to the Godswood where her father would have prayed. It’s possibly the only place she can connect to the north in king’s landing. And then her hair, too. She’s no longer wearing it like a southern lady (all fancy and up) but rather down like how she wore it in the first few episodes.
Oh, and with Sansa and Tyrion being married earlier - Tywin had already planned the Red Wedding beforehand and needed the two married for an heir to be born ASAP. Joffrey and Margery’s wedding was always planned to happen after the main war was over, which was mainly the one with Robb for that. And then Cersei and Loras’s was planned to happen after Joffrey’s.
Good catch Pudgey for noticing Jon didn't mention Ygritte to the Night's Watch council!
don't expect consistent good things... this show is a perfect combination of beauty and devastation and you're better off embracing both the beauty and the devastation
Kinda like life……
@@RamsayboltonSnow Exactamundo!
Sparta is destined for constant disappointment, not sure he's understood the nature of the show yet, he still thinks heroes win and villains lose
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 I disagree about the constant disappointment - there are many more great moments to come in the next 4 seasons. But I agree with the second part - this show isn't your typical good guy wins and bad guy loses kinda show, the good guys win and lose and the bad guys win and lose, which makes this show unpredictable and a pleasure to watch.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 You're out of your mind if you think this is constant disappointment and only the heroes losing. No one would watch this show if it was just predictable misery porn. Heroes can win just as easily as the villains can in GoT. It's just that no one is guaranteed to win.
Tywin did have a slight smirk when melting down the greatsword Ice, Ned's valyrian sword. He most likely gets a kick out of being victorious over other ancient houses and annihilating all traces of them. The way he dealt with his father's vassals house Reyne of Castamere was a similar instance and it is said it was one of the few times in his life where he genuienly smiled, though not warmly of course.
He had also been upset that his house didn't have an ancestral Valyrian steel sword, and now his house would have two, giving them even more status.
@@stanmann356 At least not for a long time. They did have Brightroar, purchased from Valyria while it still existed, but a fumbling Lannister king lost it while adventuring at sea.
@@alexanderb5726 True. And in the books Tywin had been trying to obtain another Valyrian steel sword for quite some time. (Isn't Tywin's youngest brother sailing the world in search of Brightroar?)
@@jcompton8507 Gerion yeah, the "funny brother" who took nothing seriously, he boarded the "laughing lion" ship in Lannisport when Tyrion was a boy but hasn't been seen since. He was one of the few who was kind to Tyrion growing up.
A smirk would need a slight twist of the mouth, it was actually more a smug look of satisfaction, as he'd finally replaced his family's lost Valyrian sword, as well as all but extinguished the Stark family line. Insult after insult, after insult, after injury. 💔😭
Ugh i just love Jon Snow, i know you guys will fall in love with him too. He is a stark through and through, definitely carries on Neds legacy proudly
Another way of looking at from Roose Bolton's POV (don't get me wrong I despise the Boltons, but...) :
he started to see that despite his early successes, Robb was making bad judgement calls all over the place, and an experienced military man would probably have been able to deduce that Robb's likelihood of winning the war was fading rapidly after doing things like breaking his oath to House Frey, and losing all of the Karstark men.
So, if you're Roose Bolton, you eventually have a choice land right in your lap courtesy of Tywin Lannister - stay loyal to your liege lord and if, as signs are indicating, he loses the war, your head can be mounted beside his in Kings Landing and your house will face ruin. OR, betray your liege lord, switch sides, and be rewarded with the wardenship of the entire North, a move that will immediately make your house much more powerful.
I will always hate Bolton and his decision, but it can't be argued that it was not a smart and pragmatic one from the point of view of his and his house's survival and prosperity.
Not only that but even if Robb was successful Bolton knows he wouldn't be allowed to do that torture stuff that's on his banners. Robb was good at tactics, but not so good at politics. I've gotta say that story plays on our expectation that everything will work out alright for the heroes, because true love and all that. Of course Talisa is a perfect match for Robb, everything'll be just fine and - ope guess not.
There is also a rivalry that spans millennia between the Starks and the Boltons. The Starks and the Boltons are both descended from the First Men, and both were Kings in their own right in the past - the Kings of Winter and the Red Kings, respectively. They fought each other time and again, and eventually the Boltons surrendered to the Starks and became vassals of Winterfell. It was at this time that the Starks decreed that the Boltons could no longer flay men.
The Boltons have been biding their time to make their move against the Starks.
Bolton was undermining Robb's war effort from the start. He only ramped it up when Theon took Winterfell.
@@Golladan yup...in the books you see this playing out. How Roose cosntantly holds his men back and does little things that constant;y sacrifice other northerners more loyal to house Stark. At the wedding, all the Boltons and Karstarks and Freys knew what was up, everyu other Stark bannermen was getting sloshed and drunk....
Gotta say, Roose Bolton is the closest that the North has to someone as smart as Tywin.
Pedro Pascal is a great actor. He seems to play all these different roles without effort. In fact, when the crew was asked who is sharing the most characteristic with the character they are portraying, they named Peter Dinklage being as intelligent and witty as Tyrion and Pedro Pascal being a party animal.
I’d say actors adapt to their role, in a similar way people adapt to the other people around them in their environment (if you hang out a lot with someone who uses unique slang words a lot, you might find yourself saying them, too, for example), but I don’t know for certain.
Pedro Pascal is an amazing actor, and his characters in GOT and TLOU could NOT be more different...except their love for their families being so fierce. LOVE Pedro.
"I think I'll take TWO chickens." - The Hound - I absolutely love that scene, Hound and Arya kicked so much ass in that tavern!
That scene with the Hound & Arya is one of the best. Their banter, and his dry smack talk with Poliver before you know what is coming is just too good.
Entering Oberyn Martell. Maybe the most charismatic character in GoT. Such a badass. And Pedro Pascal was the perfect casting choice.
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One of those guys from the Nights Watch was actually the person who controlled the City Watch in Season 1 and murdered Roberts Bastards and got sent to The Wall by Tyrion early in Season 2.
It's fun when these little things just trickle through the seasons in such a natural way.
What a great end to the episode - Arya got to strike a name off her list and she got her own horse, while The Hound got his chickens 😊 I love those two together.
When Arya gets her first vengeance kill and jaqen h’ghars theme plays in the background as she’s filling with dopamine watching him just gives me chills
Tywin was very serious at the beginning, no nonsense here from his part. He understands well a meaning of symbolism at his level (kings, wardens, hands to the king, etc.). Valyrian sword is a very rare thing, and these families, who owns one, treasure them. Even the ones which lack money, sell everything but the Valyrian steel swords. And Lannister family never had one. Tywin waits until everything is finished with Starks and only then proceeds with melting the sword. They could melt the sword before (had it since Season 1). Now Stark family is gone, Tywin made sure of it. Here follows burning of a wolf's fur, a very symbolic action, as wolf is a sigil of House Stark. And here comes the time to get a new Valyrian sword into Lannister family.
Actually, the Lannister family did once have their own House Valyrian Steel sword; it was called "Brightroar", but it was lost a few generations back when an adventurous Lannister took it on a sea voyage, never to be heard of again. The loss has always rankled Tywin, who believes it diminishes the status of his House not to possess such an heirloom.
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 Cool, I probably knew that some time ago, but forgot it. "Adventurous Lannister" rings some bells now, thanks for reminding me of it.
Season 4 with Spartan & Pudgey! And now our watch begins, again 😉
Nice !! Season 4 is awesome and it's going to be even better watching with Spartan and Pudgey.
“You’re willing to die for some chickens?”
Someone will 🔥🔥🔥
You heard in passing in the early seasons and histories and lores that when King's Landing fell the Lannister army butchered all the Targaryens and Tywin had the two children of the Targaryen Crown Prince dragged out of their beds and put to the sword. Well now you're hearing the same story from the mother's side, Elia Martell of Dorne, who was also killed during the sack of the city. Oberyn is her brother. Pedro Pascal has played some amazing characters in some great shows from Narcos to Mandalorian..but this one just might have his most memorable moment🤐
Tormund wasn't there when she shot him. She just wanted to hurt him because he hurt her, but didn't have it in her to kill him. She's just heart broken.
I love the moments when Arya and the Hound eat chickens! and Oberyn was definitely one of the most interesting characters in the entire series.
Sword in the beginning was Ice, the sword of Ned stark and ancestral Valyrian steel sword of house stark
Glad we didn’t lose you after last season 🙏🏻
The Unsullied have Spartan attributes, but they are much more closely modelled off the Persian Immortals that fought the Spartans at Thermopylae. Old Ghis in GoT is their stand in for the Ancient Persian empires, with Valyria as George's Rome.
Prince Oberyn Martell the Viper! Best character of season4! Greetings from Germany❤
Ser Dontos, the guy who gives the necklace to Sansa, is the last member of House Hollard who had their lands taken away and all of its members executed for taking part in kidnapping the Mad King during what is called the Defiance of Duskendale. Ser Dontos was only a child when it happened and he was only spared because Ser Barristan asked and the Mad King granted this favor since Ser Barristan was the one who saved the king.
Man. That entire Inn sequence is one of my favorite moments in this show.
Oberyn, one of my favorite characters, done so masterfully, all the other jobs opened up! Good episode, Arya gets needle back!
"The Lannisters aren't the only ones that pay their debts" one of my all-time favorite quotes. This is my favorite GoT episode with two of my favorite characters - Tywin Lannister and Oberyn Martell the Red Viper of Dorne.
My favorite part off that last scene with Arya getting needle back, is that she waited until he remembered, to kill him. She wanted him to know who she was and what he did.
I guarantee that there was one comment from Pudgy during the introduction that every single person smiled at. Can’t wait for you guys to see why😜
Spartan is like that guy who saw Nirvana live at a club show in 1989, the way he gives Pudgey grief for not being on the Dany train sooner LOL
"People love their king." "They know I saved the city, they know I won the war" and Jaime silently replying "the war is not won". That's how the trailer of Season 4 starts and everyone did the CJ from San Andreas "awww shit here we go again" thinking about how Joffrey is going to troll us for another season 😂. Both the OG trailer and the DVD/blueray trailer feat. Hozier are fantastic. A very uncanny feel to them. The Hozier trailer might be my favorite GoT trailer. Fitting for the GOAT season.
joffrey really good guy irl, right now visiting my country (ukraine) he gave bought a a car for army needs
The writer has said in this stage the dragons are teenagers so they are extra rebellious, yes you can’t fully control them but because she’s their mom, they can listen.
7:34 FYI The Freys are not of the North. They're from the Riverlands. They are vassals to House Tully, but they act as if they aren't.
Spartan is forever respected for having Tywin on his love list. We all love a good antihero!
Arya was never going to help the hound. How would it look if a little girl had to help someone like the hound in a fighting match. She also has a very different outlook on her guardian then we do, so there’s that.
Great reaction as always.
Tywin was absolutely smirking haha, he loved doing that
Both sisters got a smile this episode
This is what made Pedro pascal famous. So great! Oberyn is boss as can be. Let’s go!
The North Remembers
I found your channel when you were well through watching season 2 of GoT I think, and I gotta say I love watching along and being witness to your GoT journey. What an awesome show, and you guys are really diving in deep, what a treat for us GoT lovers! Thank you!
I wasn't aware until today that not everyone on the planet knows Pedro Pascal's name. One of the greatest actors of the last 200 years.
„She is struggling to control her dragons…“ Well, well, it‘s called puberty. 😄
this is personally my favorite season. cant wait to see you guys react to it!
Nothing makes me smile as much hearing Pudgey's "OHH NOARRRR"s 🤣
Ha! Yes! She manages to cram a whole range of letters (and emotions) into one small, 2-letter word!
Seeing Tywin melt down Ice was like watching the red wedding all over again.
Yayyy love your GOT reactions when I'm on lunch. This is literally the best season so far guys you're going to LOVE it
Robb's mistakes? Well, not going through with the marriage pact was a big one. Not just because it bent Walder Frey out of shape, but if Robb could go back on his word, a vow that evoked the gods no less, then what wouldn't he go back on? ALL of Robb's bannermen might wonder about that. It definitely opened Robb up towards potential betrayal, something Tywin Lannister was eager and quick to take advantage of.
Talisa the character is an invention of the show; but the situation still exists in the books. Robb's wife in the books was Jeyne Westerling, the daughter of one of the Lannister bannermen, whom Robb had taken the Westerling castle to enter the Westerlands to fight on Lannister ground. This was something of a 'Romeo and Juliet' element that the show didn't go for. I think that the dismay of Robb's bannermen over his wife would have made more sense if the writers had just followed the book.
Personally, I think that Robb's first and biggest mistake was in allowing himself to become 'King of the North'. When I read the novel, I was initially aghast at it, because it's something Ned would have never done--and he had the opportunity. Robert became king, Ned did not become King of the North. Robb basically turned his back on what his father was imprisoned for and executed for, whether he realized it or not. Becoming King of the North was great for morale and cohesion of the forces early on, but would later act as a wedge between Robb and some of his bannermen and also against potential allies.
Honestly, keeping Jaime alive was more trouble than it was worth. Jaime Lannister might not have all of Tyrion's gifts, but he proved quite capable of getting under people's skin. Just as Tyrion could drive divisions against his captors in the heart of the Arryn power; Jaime could ultimately do the same.
The Karstark issue over those two Lannister boys was fairly ridiculous. Unfortunately, it might have been the honorable and just--if harsh--response to the murders of captives, but what is done in peace and what is done in war can be two different things. Robb lost a terribly important bannerman.
Robb might have listened to his bannermen better. Karstark and Bolton were free with their advice, but Robb rarely paid much heed. Robb didn't communicate his plans well, leading to the problem with his Tully uncle. Again, Robb was willing to let them put a crown on his head which suggests insufficient planning and goals, allowing the bannermen to project their own 'national pride' onto him and his effort; yet, once he allowed them to do that, he no longer paid them much mind.
Thanks for bringing this up. In the books even Robb and Jeyne's wedding was instigated by Tywinn. He had a master plan to rid himself of Robb Stark.
@@aaronia8092 Thanks. Also, I had no idea that Tywin was behind Robb and Jeyne.
Tyrions speech to Sansa is one of the greatest pieces of acting ever. Mostly because everyone missed the meaning. Hear me out.
Watch it again when not so emotional.
Literally every compliment Tyrion gives to Sansa about her mother is Cersi.
They are the only things he likes about Cersi as stated in season 2. He was talking about his sister in the same breath.
There are a number of factors at play as to why Sansa and Tyrion were quickly wed before the royal wedding. One main reason is Tywin's multi level plan to secure the North. Cersei's spies had figured out that the Tyrell's planned to marry Sansa off after Joffrey married Margaery. Tywin states that he wouldn't allow Sansa to "be taken from him", so it's reasonable to deduce that he planned to marry her off to someone after the war and Joffrey's wedding. Timing therefore was of the essence if he was going to beat the Tyrells to the punch. Another smaller reason was that the royal wedding was more of a big deal and required more work, planning and guest travel. Sansa's wedding to Tyrion was a political maneuver that could be done and over with quickly.
Pudgey remembers the red wedding like it was yesterday haha
I think this is my favorite opening episode for any season. Nice symmetry to it. It starts with two swords, one larger, one smaller, and it ends with the same.
Well, see you at the reception. It should be just lovely.
The Hounds chicken statement is one of the best lines in the show "I understand that if any more words come pouring out " 🤣🤣🤣🐔
Sansa's "I don't pray anymore" breaks me everytime
Pudgey’s face when Spartan said he didn’t hate Tywin even though he was behind the death of Robb 😂 Same girl 🤣
This is probably the best season of the show. Perfect mix of writing and production value. Before the show became more about the spectacle and the writers felt that they could do no wrong.
Yes, I think they gloried in their success for the later seasons. But I think they were also bitter and angry that GRRM hadn't finished the books to give them more source material to work with.
And you can tell.
It all feels a bit tinged with an "I don't give a f*ck about this story and its finer details anymore" attitude towards the writing of it.
@@jcompton8507 What's worse is they actually didn't "ran out of books to adapt", that's a popular thing people say but that's not what happened. After season 4 (end of book 3), they pretty much stopped paying attention to the books and started inventing their own shit. Books 4 and 5 could have been two seasons each, but instead they loosely glanced over both of them in season 5, and than people started saying they "ran out of books", NO they didn't, they IGNORED them. D&D are morons and deserve no sympathy.
@@RYPA190 Yeah...there is a ton of material from Books 4 and 5 that they didn't even bother to try to adapt - the Dorne plot, the Greyjoy plot, Young Griff, Lady Stoneheart... I completely understand why George was so upset.
Pudgey saying how she still crys at the red wedding scene and then getting emotional as Spartan talks about it. 🤣 idk I think pudgey may to be innocent to keep watching this
Ssh her tears nourishes us. 😂😂😂
She's already made it past some of the very worst, so it would be a shame to pull out now, lol
Oberyn and the Hound say, "this is how you pick a fight"
I love the fact that you most want to see the Lannisters getting their due, yet two out of three characters on both your love lists are Lannisters !
I rly enjoy Pudgey crying about anything 😂😂😂 she cried on tyrion and sansa convo,ive never seen anyone cry at that scene haha
I love watching you guys experience this for the first time.
HE F****KIN CALLED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
never seen that
It’s funny how when watching GoT for the first time, we saw this episode and we’re like “wow dragons are getting big” but after season 1 of HoTD it’s like “oh yeah these dragons are 4 years old and not hundreds of years old”
How I know I’m House Spartan - Finally has Jon Snow on the love list. Also love the Tywin/Hound choices
You guys finally arrived to my favorite season, can't wait for your reactions!
First time commenting but have been watching since first episode of hotd and love your reactions. This is my favourite season and I’m really excited to see what you guys think of it ❤🇬🇧
Thank you! we're excited too!
Brienne : I promise you, i'll avenge Renly
Marg : who ?
Brienne : your husband, who was brutally murdered
Marg : ho yes, that guy.
The sword is Ned’s sword, Ice. It’s Valyrian Steele, very rare in Westeros and there’s only a few people that know how to melt/reforge it. Tywin has found 1 such person to reforge it into 2 swords of which there will only be a few in all of Westeros
Isn't it Tobho Mott, the blacksmith who was training Gendry?
@@jcompton8507 If it was, I was not aware and its a nice bit of knowledge
@@Fett411 It's in the books. Here's part of his ASOIAF wiki:
"Tobho learned to smith in Qohor. He is one of the few armorers who can work Valyrian steel,[4] and claims to be the only armorer in King's Landing who can add tint to the metals in a suit of armor without using paint.[1] Ser Loras Tyrell and Lord Renly Baratheon are among the nobles who have purchased armor from Tobho...
At Lord Tywin Lannister's request Tobho melts Eddard's Valyrian steel sword, Ice, to forge two new swords. The armorer admits that he tried to color the swords the crimson of House Lannister, but despite his spells the steel darkened to grey and red patterns.[4]"
@@Fett411 It's one of the main reasons there were so many fan theories that Gendry's skills would play a big role in making weapons to use against the Army of the Dead.
And, as a descendent of the Baratheons, he is a genetic descendent of Targaryens and thus also Old Valyria...so with whatever magic is involved, he may be able to take the skills even further than Tobho Mott did??
Had to laugh a bit when you said, thats' the guy from The Last of Us. Everybody who saw GoT before The Mandalorian and The Last of Us will always say: Wait, ain't that Oberyn?
Pudgey is loyal to the realm!
Glad to see you are still enjoying the show after the horror of the Red Wedding. It was terrible but memorable at the same time. Not many shows can carve such a deep wound in our memories.
I think Tywin was smirking, he was losing the war at some point and it all turned around with just a few letters. We saw him doing it while talking with Cersei a while back. Such a good character, but here comes Oberyn Martel openly seeking vengeance.
This season is really good so I can't wait to watch it with you.
- Future Trunks USSJ in the middle of the background - mucho respect guys :D -
OMG just as they're also watching The Last of Us they also are watching this season.
Also, Sansa's wedding occured first as they were preventing her to be married to Loras. Tywin said it.
In the books, it made even more sense because she was being married to Loras's older brother Willas, who was heir to Highgarden and not gay (as far as we know). So she would have been more likely to produce both the heirs to Highgarden and Winterfell, with the Tyrells having power/influence over both kingdoms and Margaery as Queen.
Tywin was not going to let the Tyrells have what he wanted for the Lannisters.
@@jcompton8507 yapp. And Loras was actually a kingsguard
It was actually Ned's greatsword - Ice.
Pedro Pascal said himself that role of Oberyn "mfing" Martell changed his carreer. It's been 9 years between season 4 and The Last Of US, it's interesting experience that you now watch the same actor in two shows separated by a decade.
Pedro : I don’t want to be most of us ……. I want to be the last of us.
They really did the Thenns dirty in the show. In the books they're by far the most civilized and well-organized wildlings with a strong social structure and technology like metalworking.
Yes! I've been waiting all week for this. Thank you Ser and Lady
At the end, Arya got her Ponny and the Hound finally got some chicken. Riding off to the sunset. Go the Hound!!
Great ending to the episode.
At the begenning, it was not Robb's sword, but Ned Stark's sword call "Ice". It is the biggest Valyrian steel's sword in the world (Two hands).
That's the sword we see on ep 1 when Ned kill the deserter. And Ned was executed with is self sword.
My fave hound seen . Can't believe you talked over hounds chicken line . 😆 love that scene this is best season by far for me .. enjoy
This may have already been mentioned. The music in GoT is BRILLIANT. So pay attention to the musical cues. They are an important part of the storytelling. The music at the end of this episode was beautiful and emotional.
Season 4 is peak Game of Thrones, clearly