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Ronnie is desperate and stupid enough to put his whole family at risk with NO basic information given to his mother... but let's blame WHT ppl and institutional waaaaythism right?
On highway 16, West of Prince George where I lived for several years, there is a town called Vanferhoof. In 2014 my mom got a job there and due to some circumstances she took it. She was given a place to stay which was an old motel turned into 5 rental units. My mom called me first night she was there and told me she was feeling very unsafe and had a bad feeling. The room next to her was talking very loudly and there was a car circling the property. She decided to drive to a busier part of town and sleep in her car. Next morning when she returned. There was a police everywhere. The people in the room next to her got killed. The thought of if she decided to stay there that night still haunts me. Highway 16 is no joke.
@@Stumpchunkman226Observation of your environment and recognizing that it is not safe is literally part of your intuition or your "gut feeling", wtf is your point?
Thank you for addressing the myth of serial killers being "geniuses" who evade police capture. So many just take advantage of holes in a system that doesn't care about minoritized people.
Daycare at a logging camp. Ronnie was clearly desperate. When ronnie was unable to get his brother to watch his kids and the mystery man told him that there was actually day care at the logging camp, I'm guessing alarm bells went off for he and/or his wife, hence the disturbing last words on the call. It seems like they ignored their gut on this one.
they probably thought that it seemed to good to be true and that it was all just way to convinient but given their situation they decided to take the risk just to support their family. Is truly horrible
Hard to imagine what the motivation would be for the killer. These people didn't have any money, and having to dispose of an entire family (and win a violent encounter with the husband) seems like a steep entry price for just a SA on the wife (if that was the motivation), and we don't know if Ronnie had even mentioned his family at all at the point that the two began discussing work at the logging camp (leaving open the possibility that the killer was primarily interested in Ronnie). The two advantages this course of action seemed to have was getting one/some/all of these people to _willingly_ travel to a destination in the middle of nowhere (where nobody would be around to see or hear whatever happened next), and also to eliminate the only other person who could point investigators in the right direction. The kids seemed to just be in the wrong place at the wrong time, but I'm not any kind of expert on this case (or an expert at all, for that matter) Edit: I wrote another long post after thinking this over some more and I've become pretty convinced that this is likely to be sexually motivated
@@mackhomie6 motivation could very well just be racism tbf. thatd be my guess based on how youre saying with there not really being any other reason to do this
The second I realized the family was an indigenous one, I knew the police would make this case a frustrating one. HUGE props to you for not making the fact that this was likely a hate crime a side note, and for noting the violent history the Canadian government has with its indigenous population, many other creators wouldn't.
Oh give it a rest, it’s a cold case, stop accusing police of not caring about Indigenous people. I am Indigenous, and it is such a false narrative. Like there are no Caucasian people missing for decades or Caucasian families missing or murdered that are COLD cases!
While I agree indigenous ppl seem to get unfairly forgotten by police in these cases, I believe the narration here was misguiding, it seems to me police genuinely had trouble setting the record straight from the stories told by family members, including the one who actually told police they had been found and were fine. That detail alone to me seems massive and warranting of an investigation, if a family member indeed said that then that person must have been somewhat involved in a cover up yet the narrator here glossed over like it was just police making stuff up, did they make it up or did the family member lie? That's a pivotal question, not an anecdote to just move on from.
There's a deeply upsetting pattern here in Australia where law enforcement frequently dismisses cases of missing Indigenous people by saying they've probably gone walkabout (a traditional practice that does NOT mean disappearing without telling anyone) - even in cases of missing young children. I'm always happy to see these greater issues talked about.
Aussie here too! There's also been numerous cases of aus police picking up indigenous people (particularly kids) and then dropping them off in random extremely rural areas in the middle of the night
Dont forget, indigenous people commit horrific crimes also. They’re not treated poorly by police because they got drunk under a tree. Machete attacks, rape, pedophilia and brutal assault just to name a few.
Sad, but true. I was going to make a similar comment myself, but you beat me to it. Well said. 👏Unfortunately, the racist legacy of colonialism is alive and well in both Canada and Australia.😢😡
So disgusting. Lord knows the long list of systemic abuse that still occurs today. No doubt if it were revealed these atrocities would ignite protests, revolts, perhaps revolution.@@eeeeeeeeeerrr
I agree. I've watched 2 RH videos so far and I think it's so nice how she's not disrespectfull at all, no glitz and glam and sensationalism. Just a story, told very well, acknowledging the indegenious part of the equation and all that. Genuinly brings me hope in humanity.
I'm watching this on july 26th, and according to 31:12, it would have been little Ryan's 38th birthday today. Happy birthday, Ryan. You and your family are not forgotten, and hopefully one day, your disappearance will be solved and you all will be at peace. Heartbreaking.
I know she holds a lot of guilt about it. But to go through so much (most of which I didn't mention in this video) and to still have the balls to stand up and say "no, this is my sister and this isn't fair" is a real testament to her character.
As a Canadian I have to say I have immense respect for how open and real you are about the horrible treatment of indigenous communities instead of tip toeing around the details. A lot of the history classes I did in school very vaguely grazed on it with a very broad open ended description and then moved on like it wasnt important that there was a mass murder and torture of people that happened here. Thank you for your amazing work and research on these videos
I have to agree. I had to sign up for a special social justice class just to learn about indigenous groups in Canada and the injustices that they faced. (Deplorable that it wasn't in history classes to begin with) It was a class run by a teacher who made it her passion to teach topics that weren't regularly taught. The school board hung it over her head that if students didn't sign up-- she couldn't teach it. I'm forever grateful that we had members of different groups come in and share their experiences and open up about the terrible things they were forced to go through, like the residential schools. It's not something we should ever forget.
The thing is it's the same everywhere. I'd turn myself in to whoever did this for a accurate sociopath test used countrywide, if your profession includes authority that means you passed. I assume it won't be quick for me, nobody needs to know about my sacrifice either.. besides me and my new housemate whose above me on the ground floor loading a syringe with muscle relaxer, he won't take me for a spin without it.
In both of the high schools I attended it was mandatory to take an indigenous focused art class and English class which focused on art and literature created by indigenous people. In one of the indigenous studies English classes I took, at the second school I went to, we had to do research on historical events focusing on the injustices and the oppression of indigenous peoples here in Canada. (I live in Ontario btw). I did mine on the Oka Crisis, but a girl in my class did one on the highway of tears. It was the second time I had heard of it but the first time I had really learned about it and became familiar. That was a project that stuck with me, because as we all presented our research and applied the context of Indigenous culture and the generational trauma caused by residential schools, I could tell we all gained an emotional connection and understanding of the topics we chose and learned about. It became even more personal to me then. As a young, white Canadian, I am genuinely glad to see Canada's horrific history truthfully being taught in school today, for I probably would have remained sheltered from it just as past generations have. I think being upfront about the validity of Canada's brutal treatment towards indigenous peoples, allows people to truly see the problem and understand, in a clearer sense, the next steps to reconciliation. Obviously there is a loooonggg way to go, but it feels like we're in a step in the right direction. More than we ever have been. The way the information was presented in this video helps people from in and outside of Canada become aware of its history as well, which is something I admired.
Canadian and I agree as well. It wasn’t until university I had an inkling of what absolute horrors happened to the indigenous people of Canada *and* what effects it continues to have on them and their communities. I also guessed as soon as I heard the family member’s names that the case was not given the attention it deserves from the police and media.
I live in the US and it's mostly the same here. in school we'd talk about this for a day or two, maybe a week, then just keep going to talk much more extensively about some random white dude. It's infuriating
I grew up on the streets of this cesspool. I saw the ads about the family on TV. I watched my friends disappear over the years and have no idea how I’m still alive. Thank you for presenting this with such respect.
@@rugeramerican308 doesn't it kind of come through by his comment? It's clear he's a minority and he's witnessed some serious abuse against indigenous people. Or at least unexplained events causing them to disappear. I would say discrimination/serial killing would be the best guess.
@@SH-to8shits plausible but the thing that strikes as odd is the police AND the media united that the familly is found and "fine",thats not incompetence nor racism BUT malicious imho and could indicate they were either killed by a serial killer OR a powerfull group of ogran traffickers
I’m an indigenous lady. Yurei = ghost. No one I knew there had any clue what happened. It’s obviously more than one serial killer. I left 20 years ago and i don’t even visit, Prince George is now full of meth addicts, violent homeless camps and often has the highest murder rate per capita in Canada. Best hope is that all the fracking around there causes enough earthquakes to swallow the city whole.
Incredible film. I'm from Washington State, just below BC and spend a lot of time there. There are SO many missing indigenous peoples there. I don't understand it, but of course, it's still a bit of the "Wild West" here on the rugged, far, Pacific coast. Thanks again for this. And I look forward to your next video. Cheers!
As a Tsimshian who lives less than an hour from Prince Rupert, this is something I grew up terrified about, and would constantly be trying to prevent since I was only 5 and I am so grateful that the horrific conditions we experience are FINALLY being talked about more. So from the bottom of my heart, thank you for helping bring attention to an issue that is all too often ignored or swept under the rug
Thank you for discussing this case. I'm indigenous myself and the continual apathy surrounding indigenous disappearances and murders is truly infuriating. We're just not "interesting" enough for our deaths to be worth the effort, even just to talk about. Also, to all the people saying this history "isn't real horror", this video is talking about children being kidnapped from their parents, not allowed to bond with family or engage with their culture, being abused in every way possible, then growing up and not receiving the help they need when their lives are in danger, all due to something they can't change. I think that qualifies as horror.
Worst part is this type of treatment continued well past what most think. I remember heart that in the 60s and 70s the Canadian version of CPS was removing children from their families “because they were poor” and still institutionalized them. So on certain levels it continued and while less overt still does so. So of course the native communities will be closed off and not talk to the cops, they are the enemy
Goes to show how normalized violence is against indigenous populations in the Americas. Its sickening that people have been conditioned into being so apathetic so that the systematic oppression of a group can be acceptable
My mom has been missing for 5 years from Alberta.. she is part Cree and was homeless/addicted to drugs all my life, so the police just literally don't care... seeing that the jack family got no coverage at all really makes me think of her case.....
I just refuse to believe that the strange man had no involvement in what happened to the family. Who would just go to a random guy in a bar you don’t frequent and offer him a job? Not only that, but to keep adding details to the job so that Ronnie couldn’t say no, such as hiring his wife and having a conveniently located daycare for the children. At 1 AM?? I hope that the truth comes out soon and that the family gets the peace they deserve after all this time Edit: I’m not at all blaming the family for agreeing to this whole deal. I was never and will never be in their shoes so I can’t pass judgement on them. I am pointing out that the theory that the stranger wasn’t involved in the disappearance doesn’t make any sense to me
Knowing the RCMP I think it's fair to assume they have precisely 0 people working on this case and if the truth ever comes out it won't be as a result of any so-called "investigation."
Yeah. It seems that way. And evidence seems to suggest that Ronnie attempted to get someone to care for the kids (his brother) before accepting the offer, so it clearly wasn’t the ideal scenario for the family, else they wouldn’t have made that call. People say the offer of daycare is weird but what if was more casual (as in ‘just bring the kids and watch them yourself’) and Ronnie just said day care was available to his mom to appease her? Then such an offer would have been much for believable for Ronnie and Doreen. The offer may have just been made at 7pm but they were chatting in the pub for a while, and 1am was just when they left as Doreen would have needed time to prepare for the kids. So many aspects to this case. If only there were more witnesses in the pub that night…
it depends on what country one is in... in my country strangers offer other strangers jobs all the time. I had a friend come over and visit me for three months from overseas and while he was here, he had two offers given to him for a job just out of the blue by strangers (when he wasn't even after a job).
Most true crime commentators, when covering cases like this, put the fact that it was most likely a hate crime against indigenous people as a side note. I appreciate the fact that you genuinely took the time to explain the atrocities committed by the canadian government and police against indigenous communities, and how that long history of violence is being continued today. As you said, things like this do not happen in a vacuum. It's a continuing cultural genocide. I'm certain that if it was a white family that went missing, it would make national headlines for years.
It’s also imo an opportunity based crime (not always hate focused); they know they won’t be prosecuted so they’ll focus on certain minorities knowing police and governments won’t put much effort into things. I have a friend who is a native and was violently attacked and brutalized by a white man, he had 5 other victims. He attacked a white woman and was convicted of a less severe attack on her and jailed for a few years. The police never filed charges against him for the native women even after lots of evidence it was the same guy, those cases are either cold or closed. My friend has been trying to find out why now that she’s an adult and can advocate for herself but the department still has little interest in it, maybe hate crime on governs now that I think about it; turning a blind eye so these communities will still suffer; but to the criminal they’re just easy prey with 0 consequences
@@jettanyx1 70% of murdered Canadian indigenous women are murdered by the own partners. They're also 3 times as likely as non indigenous Canadian to suffer from DV>
@@isabellind1292 yep, misogyny always trumps any other form of bigotry. that's why all women of colour are victims of crime at a much higher rate than men of colour. similar rates of crime are prevalant in all poverty stricken groups
The fact you make these brilliant videos alone is honestly astounding. You have a real talent and, although there are a lot of horror story channels out there, yours deserves far more praise and attention: particularly since you provide such broad, well researched context for each story that goes the extra mile in terms of immersion. Long may it continue! Thanks for all your efforts.
The RCMP getting pissy about indigenous locals "not helping enough" when EVERYONE knows cops put minimal effort/resources/manpower into these cases is WILD to me. What a horrific tragedy for this family and their community.
Thats very true or they say oh well they had a history of running away or drinking or drugs or prostitution like these arent humans and like that even matters in this situation obviously if they come from a historically poor and neglected area then theirs gonna be higher numbers of people with substance issues and people doing whatever they can for money the lack of police interest over a period of 50 years is extremley infuriating 🤬
When my cousin disappeared the police refused to search for her for 48 days, we the whole village searched for her and found her dead body in the woods in a condition so terrible I'm not sure I can even say it and they never investigated. The case is technically open but they questioned nobody and did nothing we had to demand the autopsy report for weeks and it has been 7 years
@@kaniq6120 My heart goes out to you with my deepest sympathy and apology. Absolutely horrific to hear. I can only imagine that these officers/investigators have detached from reality to be so callous and be able to sleep at night. It's unexceptionable to be in that profession yet to be without some kind of a soul.
I’m an indigenous women from bc, this story has always been one that I find myself coming back to. Thank you for covering it. It’s always such a validating feeling when a channel i frequent speaks on the issue of missing indigenous peoples in Canada.
@SH-to8sh 'a classic for the campfire'? This isn't some childish horror fable, it's a real case with real people who are victims of systemic racism, and further horrors beyond our comprehension. Think before you type, especially if you're replying to someone who themselves is a minority
No. The guy who did this to the Jack family and the investigation (or lack thereof, shall we say) is the definition of why we failed as a society.@@vagabond2570
@@assas1nscreed Im a minority, Navajo. there is no such thing as "systemic racism" I can name 2 people right now who lost heir life to gun violence, one was half white the other was gunned down in some sort of gang initiation at a red light. Their stories didnt even get front page in our own town. Take your democratic talking points and shove it up your ....
"Will we ever find out what happened to the Jacks family? I have no idea. But somebody does." These parting words paired with the sketch of the unknown man was deeply unsettling. It kept me up for hours the first time I watched this video, and even now as I rewatch it, I have to look away. Your videos are informative, respectful to the victims and insanely well made when it comes to sharing these horrific stories. Please keep up the great work!
I think your covering of the systemic racism that first nation people's face was honestly so vital to hear. I'm a guy from England, so I'm pretty damn far removed personally from so much of it to the point it's just really hard to actually learn about. That said, from the sadly little amount I've heard, indigenous Americans culture and history is just Incredible. I knew about the schools, and knew about the poverty. But to hear how much is still going on just fills me with such god damn shame. I honestly was verging on tears. I don't know what we expect when i clicked this video, but thank you. Sometimes a kick in the teeth like this is just the best way to learn. Do you happen to know any charities that would seek to improve the conditions for indigenous people in Canada? I know i can just Google some bit i like to get some opinions on which ones are actually good.
here are some BC charities that are either specifically for indigenous people, have indigenous programs, or deal with issues that disproportionately effect indigenous peoples (I'd love to add some links, but If I do youtube will nuke my comment.) aboriginal mother centre society (provides free housing for mothers and children at risk of homelessness and helps them get back on their feet) pacific association of indigenous women (provides childcare, youth outreach programs, and education in indigenous languages) the downtown east side women's centre (provides food, housing, vocational programs, and cultural programs to those effected by homelessness in vancouver's notoriously impoverished downtown east side) squamish helping hands (provides addiction recovery programs, mental health support, free food, and housing support) RAVEN trust (provides legal aid to indigenous people protecting their land rights)
@@marlenejack4861 I'm sorry I don't know anything, I just think the RCMP really fumbled on this case and that moment was a good example of how incompetent they could be
@@tannerb1527 according to the video they aren't sure what ranch is actually being referenced, and while they did some digs they weren't able to find anything. :(
My brother Meysam Mokri vanished into thin air in Aug of 2014. We are immigrants and very little was done to look for him. There has been absolutely no trace of him. But when a white woman literally blocks away went missing, it was all over the news. Helicopters all over our neighborhood, massive search party went on foot with dogs through the surrounding area, including forests. She was found almost 2 hours away in another city. But what about my brother. His disappearance has devastated me! BC has a huge problem with the number of people who go missing in this province and nothing is being done about it! This is absolutely horrible and unacceptable! What is it gonna take for them to take this matter seriously??? These are living, breathing human beings. They are someone’s loved ones! How can they vanish without a trace?? 😭😭🤣
stay strong, i send my best wishes to you. i cant imagine how frustrating it is, thinking if the police had just helped your brother might've been found as quickly as that white woman. i hope you get that closure you desperately need
That's what I immediately thought about as well, I would forever feel guilty that because of a choice I'd made the kids went missing too. Not that it was the uncle's fault of course, he had no way of knowing what was happening, but if it were me the what ifs would kill me.
it seems like it would be a red herring but I believe the uncle was present at the house at 1am..which is weird in itself. If it was to say goodbye he may have warned them...we don't know that detail. Don't forget these were desperately hungry people, but on the other hand I wonder if it was something sinister arranged within the family.
It is absolutely horrific the level of desperation someone has to be in to jump on a "job" offer like that from a stranger. It reeked of ill intent from the get go, but then to offer child care and a ride out for the whole family is just an entirely different level of manipulation. I can't imagine what circumstances would drive me to take that risk. I do really wonder though, why Robbie didn't get an address, company name, or contact number at all to relay to his mother, especially with that last comment on the phone. He knew there was something suspicious, even if the remark was meant as a joke it's rooted in concern. I really do wish for any information on this case to arise, the family and community deserve closer after all this time.
let's not act as if people of color aren't put at a disadvantage because of colonialism. You are more likely to sympathize with people who look like you, that is a fact. Argo the media and police force, mostly white, aren't going to care about cases revolving around minorities as much as their own race. And it is nobody's fault, in the families disappearance, but the person that took them, HE is the one who planned it, HE is the one that lied to them, and ultimately made them disappear. The father acted in desperation, for what he thought was the betterment of his children. There is no such thing as a perfect victim, and the fact that you rather blame the father than the PERPETRATOR speaks volumes. But yeah keep talking about how white people are somehow the victims of this story and not the missing family. You are disgusting.
@jason.larsenthedanishgreek1226 Did you stop watching the video halfway through? Of course the problems in this case stems in institutional racism. 1. The father would've and taken the risk if he wasn't in poverty that is extremely common in Native Americans because of how few enoconmics
I can't imagine how that brother feels. One could never assume this tragedy, but knowing those children could have come with his family and been ok. I hope his heart heals.
@@EntertainMeTVI don’t think it’s fair to assume his brother had it any easier. Perhaps their family was also struggling and they couldn’t afford to care for additional kids for those two weeks. The family probably has enough guilt on their conscience already without others blaming them for the actions of a monster and the complicity of the police.
@@EntertainMeTVcome on dude. He suddenly was told in the middle of the night that he’d have to start watching his brothers kids the next day for two whole weeks. That’s a sudden thing to be told with no warning, it’s fully understandable why he’d decline
@@audellaroque4730if a family member called me like that in the middle of the night, I’d be asking all kinds of questions. What an odd thing to ask, and to have to leave right then and there in the middle of the night to this mysterious job? No certain location? Idk. I’m sure he does feel guilty, but it really is overall an odd situation. No time to even think about things or figure if they can make it work. I understand why he said no, but I wonder if he told him anything else. Like maybe not to go or if he’s sure it’s legit. Maybe he did say something, and that’s why he got the idea to tell his mom to go look for him if he didn’t come back?
As soon as I heard RCMP I already knew how this was going to go. It's just rage-inducing the treatment that indigenous people get in this country and the complete lack of care from police officials and the government is astounding.
Agreed the RCMP are useless. All that time elapsed had allowed the obvious dodgy creature posing as a person with a too good to be true job setting his sights on a poor and desperate indigenous family in the late 1970s early 1980s. That amount of time could allow the creep to kill and bury the family in the snowy Forrest or leave them in the snowy province, to succumb to the elements. Drown them in the lake in body bags.... Somewhere cold and the snow fell over the years on their corpses..
The idea of day care at a logging camp might sound weird but on a summer vacation in the BC interior in '84 or '85, we took a wrong turn and ended up on a logging road, at the end of which was a logging camp that looked more like a campground there were so many campers and families. We were allowed to stay for a couple days because the people running the camp were really nice and understood how we got there (and dad just happened to have a few bottles of rye in the camper..) but there were dozens of kids of all ages. That kind of camp existed so It's not completely outside the realm of possibility for a job prospect to include daycare, which would really make a the Husqvarna guy's story believable.
This was absolutely phenomenal in every way. This police investigation would be hilarious if it wasn't so horrifically tragic. I really can't believe I've never heard of this family and this moved me so so so so deeply
Well there's very little the Police can do if you *carelessly* place yourself in danger! I mean seriously, who invites a TOTAL STRANGER into their home and entrusts their wife and children into their hands?
Thank you. I think so much of that has to do with a ‘cycle of apathy’. It’s really hard to report on something that has almost no coverage (because journalists generally don’t deem native people going missing to be interesting), therefore - without any facts around the case - people lose interest and speculate less and police are ultimately less pressured to put more resources into a case. But that cycle in itself is extremely telling.
I've heard this story a few times on TH-cam as well. You might just not be looking for these kinds of stories. Personally, I'm glad more people cover it and this channel has such great editing and graphics to add more perspective on this case.
@@Stabity thank you! I don’t necessarily know that the full facts of this case have been covered but yes, I have seen videos on the Jack family. My big hope is that more content will be created around this. I wrote a 10k word article outlining all the current publicly available info, fully cited, and I really hope it can be used as a basis for a deeper dive, maybe a multi-part podcast or something. My 35 mins is only scratching the surface, the article is much, much more in depth.
@@Stabity can you tell me the names of the channels that cover these types of stories or this story in particular? i'm an avid true crime watcher and this is the first time i've heard of this case. the algorithm is notorious for suppressing these types of stories and i'd like to expand my horizon!
the fact that this happens to native people especially women constantly at ridiculous rates is horrifying. i’m native and thank you so so much for covering our stories. when you’re native police and rcmp, even normal people don’t care as much about native people. they don’t see their humanity and assume they’re drinking or leading an unsavoury life as a response to trauma caused by racism and the canadian government. history, they’d say. but it’s my families stories. i hope one day people can care about us being murdered at horrifying rates. cause no one really does. it’s heartbreaking. it honestly makes me feel hopeless as a native teen to see how most of society ignores us even in death.
I’m an indigenous person who resides in Canada and wanted to say I really appreciate that you went into detail about Canada’s treatment of our peoples as a factor in this case and not just a simple “serial killer was smart!” You’ve earned my respect 🧡
I'm generally not a fan of systematic racism arguments, but this one is indisputable. Either the leadership of the RCMP is rotten or there is legit institutional racism going on here. Its fucking pathetic our taxes go towards such a backwards organization.
Man, as a Canadian I got chills at this “but somebody does…and whoever that person is, chances are they’re still out there” yikes, really got me thinking. What an incredibly sad story though.
you earned my respect for this one it’s very much a victim-centered approach with candidness on the specific roadblocks indigenous people face as well as law enforcement incompetence. You’re a highly competent filmmaker, your work is better than a lot of TV “true crime” productions
Kind of reminds me of the case here in Ohio where you had a guy offering people a job to work on his farm. But come to find out he was a straight-up serial killer.
was this the guy who "hired" another desperate couple similar to this one and then immediately killed the man once they arrived and kept the girl in a shipping container torturing her? Or am I thinking of yet another story
Was that the same or another as the guy who owned like a closed down farm and would tell people it was a club or something, invite homeless women, drug them so they couldn’t leave the party and then chop them up on the farm
@@JensenWinchester1You're thinking of Todd Kohlhepp in South Carolina. It was two couples at separate times. With the first couple, he ended up killing the woman too because she kept fighting back.
Your production quality is immaculate, and I can’t commend you enough for your acknowledgement of First Nations peoples’ struggles at the hands of the RCMP and media outlets. Thank you for doing this. I hope you can keep going.
I have lived in BC my whole life. Most folks from here can't cover these stories with this kind of compassion and nuance. Thank you for telling this story with such depth
This video made me so sad. I've lived in BC my whole life and it's an absolute travesty the continued deaths of these people and the lack of action by our government. We have so much more progress to make. Thank you for shining a light on this case and the highway of tears in general.
It's not just a lack of action. Our government has funded the kidnapping of Indigenous Children in the past, in the name of destroying indigenous language and culture. Those in power in our government are choosing to look the other way, if they aren't actively involved.
@@barneyronnie Or neither? Not every person who eventually immigrated to Canada were part of the Colonization/Theft of Indigenous Lands and Murder of Indigenous People. Some immigrated to Canada as a refuge from the horrors, and religious conflicts in their previous homes.
Amazing work. Very chilling. The police's incompetence and severe mishandling of this case creates a whole new type of horror. May the Jack family find peace.
Well there's very little the Police can do if you *carelessly* place yourself in danger! I mean seriously, who invites a TOTAL STRANGER into their home and entrusts their wife and children into their hands?
@@Peekaboo-Kitty you dont understand how bad those people have it do you, most of them do not have cars or trucks, so they have to hitch hike, jobs are almost impossible to find, have you ever been on tribe land its like a third world country and people in Canada could care less about those people there just natives who cares right
the institutional racism in canada and the us is truly a terrifying pattern, especially in the cases of missing and murdered indigenous people. thank you for touching on this, it's rare to find channels that speak about cases like this while addressing systemic issues.
@@jordannewman177only a white person would say that, I don’t suppose that means anything to you. It’s one of those, if it doesn’t happen to me or my family, it doesn’t exist.
The audacity of the man to walk into a bar full of people and sit at the house with family members able to identify him makes me think he’d done it many times to feel comfortable enough to pull it off.
it sounds to me Ronnie is the one who often got his family into trouble too. Beating on his wife, drinking away precious dollars at a pub and finally accepting a job offer only to have him and his family never to be seen again. This was just a concoction of bad decisions leading up to something sinister.
Yeah, not saying he’s a genius in anyway, but he’s so sure no one will notice him, he must live far far away. Or he’s dumb! Well he’s Dumb regardless! Even if he was a genius, showing your face at a bar with a guy you’re about to make disappear is unbelievably ignorant!
@@txkoutdoorfam6911 I don't think he's a genius. I think he just targets people he knows people won't be looking for (indigenous). No one's stopped him before, why should he be worried about someone stopping him now, is what I think he thought before he made these decisions
@@SH-to8sh There's no evidence the man targeted the rest of the family either. The man targeted RONNIE. Ronnie was a drunk and desperate. You wouldn't need to know him to realize he was an easy mark. Then Ronnie brought up his wife. "Well, bring her too! They need more people, she can be trained on the job." Then Ronnie hesitated because of the kids. "Well, they got camp ladies doing cooking who watch each others' kids. Its no problem." The rest of the family were endangered because RONNIE wanted them with him.
The crazy thing is, I now believe this whole case could seemingly still be innocent. Imagine if he really was a logger at a struggling company and needed men to do trial work before fully committing? I believe the man told Ronnie that the job was only for 10 days. The eerie thing is we have no evidence of anyone hiring or a mysterious man going missing. No car crash or bodies, So it likely is foul play,, I'm not trying to stick up for the man but the bush area and a car crash is def still being considered a possibility combined with alcohol.@@Badficwriter
As a young Indigenous woman I can't thank you enough for shining a light on this case. I am in law enforcement in the US and have been fascinated by this case since I first heard about it. If I was a retired detective I would dedicate the rest of my life searching for these poor people, that apparently no one cares about, except their remaining families and communities. I have a little experience with being thought unworthy due to being Native and it is just unexceptable, in this day and age, especially when two little boys were involved. 💔😔😪
@@Raptor810Blue It's actually quite bad in America but it seems worse in Canada. Google Indigenous residential school deaths in Canada. The number of Indigenous deaths of children is horrific and they find their bodies in mass graves under the old school buildings. Today many Indigenous people are still very much treated like second class citizens. As a 28 year old half Indigenous, half white, University educated woman i still experience quite a lot of racially motivated disrespect. It can get discouraging.
Almost the entire interior of this province is an ideal spot for someone wanting to harm others or commit any horrible acts without getting caught, especially up north. The northern half of BC only has a population of roughly 260,000 despite being 569,000 square kilometres. That’s one tenth the population of Brooklyn in an area larger than the UK. It’s also incredibly easy to get lost, even for those familiar with the areas. Just minutes from a town or city can find you in places of unnerving isolation with no one else around. Mountains, hills, valleys, canyons, thick forests, swamps, raging rivers, etc. it’s all here, and it’s a perfect place for evil to hide. Add in the systematic racism, bureaucracy, and general laziness of the RCMP and chances anyone will be found are frustratingly small. I hope proper closure can be achieved for the families of all those missing one day, and that justice can be served to all who have destroyed these people’s lives. Exceptional documentary!
thank you so much for including the abuse and neglect of indigenous peoples by the Canadian police system, not a lot of people know about these injustices and it is a breath of fresh air to see a big channel talk about it.
I feel like it's because there is so much focus on the racism and corruption of law enforcement in the USA, that the horrible crimes committed by the Canadian Police System gets swept under the rug. A lot of Canadians pat themselves on the back saying that we aren't as bad as the USA, but that's just willful ignorance. I remember when I was young finding out about Canadian History Of Residential Schools for the Indigenous Children. It disgusts me how our own government funded the kidnapping, abuse of Indigenous children, while also trying to destroy their language and culture. The blood of those children is on the hands of the adults that allowed such atrocities to be carried out.
It happens in America too. Really sad part is indigenous people were here before white came but white people have the gall to say no more immigrants can come here.. All white people are the immigrants..
"Some people are worthy of shining a light on, while others belong in the dark" a matter of fact and reality amongst natives being a victim of crime or even on unequal opportunity. Heart goes out to the Jack family and indegenous people everywhere.
the second i heard B.C. and saw their photos, i knew what kind of “vanishing” we were discussing. investigators repeatedly fail indigenous men, women, children and families and don’t care to bring them home safe. it is a sickening and sobering truth about our home and Native land.
I wasn’t expecting this to turn the way it did. I was just watching some creepy videos for the creepy vibes, but I’m glad you brought up what you did during the highway segment. Thank you for making this and helping me be more aware of this issue. You’re right that these issues are not just happening in a vacuum. What this family and millions of others have been put through for the past several centuries up until today is truly real horror.
all your work is incredible, but this one is especially important. the lack of importance and care around crimes committed against indigenous people needs to be talked about more. systemic racism needs to end. these communities deserve justice, coverage and love.
Oh man, the animations are sooo good. It really improves more and more. Always amazing seeing this much work and time you put in these videos. Not to mention that if you don't trust something or a source, you keep on searching deeper until you know 100% sure. Like MANUALLY checking all those news articles, rather than giving up if there isn't a search result. Mad respects, really.
Out of all the video essay creators that I have watched, this channel is my favourite.Everything is of high quality, the research,modelling and editing are all very good.But there are many other channels that also has those qualities.But this channel takes the cake for the most important thing in the making of video essays,narration.The way her voice carries so much emotion,you can feel the sadness in her voice and in the story itself.The way she makes you feel for these people that you've never even heard before and I'm over here feeling depressed, sad and angry just because of her script and narration.All this is just to say thank you for this top of the notch content.Thank you for sharing the stories that barely anyone has ever even heard about that are just as important as the famous ones.All around just a big thank you and keep up the content!
Your content is incredible, I really appreciate your in-depth research, sympathy to victims, and diligent research. Everything about your content and channel are just spectacular!
@@stephenalex4345 ha! Apparently simpletons don't understand arrogance plus ignorance equals hilarious. I get it, ignorance is bliss. Might as well stay ignorant.
This is the first I’ve found your channel . I love you calm and detailed narration, respect for the victims and family, and touch of sarcasm at the investigators
I remember my family teaching me about this case when I was younger, this case has always haunted me as an Indigenous person. It just contributed to my understanding of how our community remained underrepresented or cared for. These stories are chilling and untold so I appreciate you sharing this on your platform. We can’t forget about these people.
VERY well done piece not only about the family's disapperence, but also putting it in some context within Canada's ptoblematic relationship with it's indigenous natives
I really appreciate what you're doing with your channel. You go the extra mile to deliver high quality documentaries of these tragic stories and seem to care a lot about each and everyone involved. Thank you very much for your great effort. Keep up the good work, you are exceptional.
This is such a beautiful video. So well made. Not sure if you're a one person channel but you speak so soothingly and calmingly. Thank you for this. Please upload more.
I really, really appreciate how detailed, careful, and respectful this coverage is. I had stopped watching true crime because the coverage of it felt extractive and gruesome, but your thumbnail caught my eye and I'm glad it did. Thank you for investing the time to do this (delicate!) production correctly.
I live in Canada, Born, and raised. I'm now in my 60's, and believe me when I say this is just the tip of the iceberg. The RCMP in every province are the worst you will come across. They have ruined so many lives in Canada who they say they serve. They don't serve anyone except their interests. I suggest that if you do live in Canada or wishing to visit Canada, take this advice, do not trust any RCMP officer you come across. Never trust them.
I don't normally comment on TH-cam videos but I just want to thank you for such an amazingly well researched and produced upload. I'm blown away this is free to watch, absolutely fascinating to watch. Thank you!
Your work put into this channel is incredible, level of production, visual, audio etc. is just amazing, I have no words. Please keep doing what you do, this is very much needed and appreciated.
Your content continues to capture my attention in ways few others can manage. Thank you for providing the necessary context to this incident as well. Too many people become victimized in stories very similar to this one and go neglected and forgotten by the institutions put there to protect them.
Im relatively new to this channel (this is only the second video Ive watched) and I have to say this deserves an award! The content, research and way its made with empathy and intelligence is outstanding.
This is excellent. I'm glad you talked about the underlying causes for why this case didn't receive attention from press or police. It doesn't get talked about enough in this context.
As soon as I saw the photos of the family long before the 18:00 mark, I instantly suggested that the lack of interest by the Police was because of the race of the family. For a very similar reason many of Jeff Dahmer's cases were overlooked - it was mostly black and gay people, which police also didn't care too much about back in those days.
Wow I can't believe RCMP mistakenly closed the case basing on their flippant assumptions and disgusting prejudice. I mean they are known for their incompetency but this was next level ridiculous how they botched the investigation in the initial stage. Simply heartbreaking to have seen Doreen's sister break into tears. As if they haven't suffered enough already! Props to you guys for your brilliant work and how you laid this case bare. The narrator is supremely talented and her dedication and commitment reflects through the video. Moreover she didn't hesitate to show her compassion and empathy towards the victims and in essence, natives in Canada who take the hit and I think that's very commendable. Most narrators just read from the script but she seemed really connected to her content. The morbid undertone combined with exceptional research makes this one of the most well-made and thorough videos based on Jack family disappearance! I know chances are very slim but I just hope their loved ones receive some closure. 34 years is not a joke!
I watch so many skilled one-man documenters on TH-cam (nexpo, lemmino, etc) and honestly yours might be my favorite to listen to. Your speaking style is just much more chilling than the others and your voice is so beautiful. My bad if that sounds weird everything else is nice too that’s just what stands out to me the most 💀
i’m native from northern michigan, and this case hurts me, it’s so tragic. i still can’t believe the police, media, and the public are still so disinterested in this case. thank you so much for shedding light on it.
just found your channel this morning and have already watched all your videos. the production and quality is amazing. i wish you had more videos, but i can't imagine the time and effort you put into them already. they truly are amazing please keep up the awesome work
Thank you for taking the time to make a video about this case and dip into issues like MMIW, the highway of tears, the 60s Scoop/residential schools and generational trauma. So many Canadians refuse to take these issues seriously and it’s infuriating. Videos and commentary like this are very important to continue spreading the word and getting people to think critically about these issues. Great video, thank you
YESSSSS A NEW REAL HORROR VID! This one is so close to home i live in the same province it occured.. I want to thank you for giving the family a voice and shedding light on the horrific systemic mistreatment of the indigenous population. It is a huge problem here and it is not talked about enough!
The quality of these videos is sensational, the work that must go into them I can only imagine. Thank you for telling this story in such respectful detail.
I usually put these long form videos in the background while I do other things, but your content is so well-done both visually and research wise that it would feel like a disservice to the effort you've put into it. Thank you for doing what you do!
Your videos are always a pleasure to watch, even if the content isn't. The production quality and research you perform is amazing. I hope the Jack family finds some peace and justice.
Just wanna say, you voice is the most perfect thing ever to tell such stories, calm, smooth, almost like a whisper, you can feel the eeriness and horrors you’re about to tell us before even telling us
You are very talented I love the format of your videos, the tact with which you explore the case, and that it’s a case I’d never heard of before that needs more media attention. Im subscribed and look forward to the next video. May the Jack family Rest In Peace and I hope their family members get closure and justice.
The way you approached this story...the truth of how it was fumbled by racist authorities and so many cases are. I just have huge respect for you. Thank you.
You are my new favourite channel. I found you recently and your video quality is just impeccable. Thank you so much for covering this case. There is a continuous issue of missing and murdered indigenous people in Canada and they never, ever get enough media coverage. Your voice is important.
Thank you for covering this. As a Canadian- its unbelievable how racist our population is toward indigenous people. They get almost no media coverage and they go through some of the worst possible things. Its sad what happened to this family and it definitely could have been handled differently. If they were white they most likely would have had a bigger media presence...
what evidence is there that there was racism involved? There was no evidence of a crime. Yes, they didn't contact their family but then again, these were adults. I see no evidence that the "indifference" was due to racism, as opposed to anything else, such as, nobody wants to believe such a strange, unusual crime has been committed.
If they were white they’d be demonized for simply existing out of some retarded and misplaced social justice attempt by brainwashed leftists and the Marxists that are pulling their strings Causing a successful, inventive and awesome ppl like the Caucasian people to self loathe over the last 30-40 years is the tiny hats greatest accomplishment
@@raphaellavictoria01So many people comment to go all "erm this is an unusual crime? How is it racist? Who cares" to muddy the conversation. they're uncomfortable with the idea that their nation silently sweeps foreigners and the poor indigenous folk under the rug. there have been schools found to house geaveyards of bodies, mostly indigenous. keep dancing around the screaming truth, it's entertaining
Thanks for proving his point, bigot. You're exactly the type of person to support murderous cops who intentionally kill unarmed people of color then say, "they aren't racist they were just doing their jobs!". There's a word for that... bootlicker. @@raphaellavictoria01
I mean I agree about our horrific and racist past... but to say that this topic gets no media coverage... I mean you must not get cbc where you live. It is most definitely something that's frequently covered, and has been my entire adult life. People get frustrated because the causes to these situations are multifaceted and really hard to fix, and want to jump to the conclusion that there must be public apathy or an unwillingness to try and address the problem. The truth is even worse: people do care, and the governments throw money at it, but the problems are so entrenched and difficult to fix...
I appreciate you not only talking about minority victims , but going into detail at how so many institutions failed minority victims. You didn’t have to make a video about this family nor one talking about the dangers natives face, but you did, and I applaud you for it.
This entire video is on a whole other level of perfection. I was hooked the entire time but the last few minutes of your narration was truly something different. The combination of atmosphere, photo, music and your voice created something haunting, hopeful and tragically poetic. Yes, they may be gone but they are not forgotten and here's hoping the truth comes out in our lifetime. Everyone deserves to come home, everyone deserves justice and we will find the answers some day.
New subscriber here. Great job. Canadian here who has never heard of this family disappearance...Ive lived in B.C for years as well.. in different areas. RCMP needs to be dismantled. Toxic leaders.
Real Horror, who are you? You seem to be a documentary superstar, probably (hopefully) working for the best broadcasting companies in the world, and here you are creating these masterpieces for us on TH-cam. Thank you!
you dont have many videos out yet but i can already tell this is going to be (if not already tbh) one of the best true crime docu channels on youtube, you speak on the cases with such respect for the victims and family and i really like how you so far have made videos on less well known cases such as this one. bringing up the issues that indiginous people in canada phase. i hope you keep it up and your channel continues to grow
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- The driver is on the right side of the road but the wrong side of the car
- The sign should say 12am, to indicate midnight, not 12pm
- Any statistics refer to ‘the highway of tears’ (the area between Prince Rupert and Prince George) not highway 16 in general, which is much longer
Btw, ive just subbed to your channel & left you a long comment about my experience concerning The Big Dipper amusement ride in Battersea Park.
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It was an experience that set my path for the future.
Though not hurt, i could so very have been.
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Ronnie is desperate and stupid enough to put his whole family at risk with NO basic information given to his mother... but let's blame WHT ppl and institutional waaaaythism right?
Amazingly well created & researched videos. Hauntingly gripping from beginning to end.
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But when will you upload again? We've been begging 😢😢😢😢😢
On highway 16, West of Prince George where I lived for several years, there is a town called Vanferhoof. In 2014 my mom got a job there and due to some circumstances she took it. She was given a place to stay which was an old motel turned into 5 rental units. My mom called me first night she was there and told me she was feeling very unsafe and had a bad feeling. The room next to her was talking very loudly and there was a car circling the property. She decided to drive to a busier part of town and sleep in her car. Next morning when she returned. There was a police everywhere. The people in the room next to her got killed. The thought of if she decided to stay there that night still haunts me. Highway 16 is no joke.
holy shitttt. goes to show the importance of listening to ur gut!! im so glad your mom is okay
@@meghansullivan6812that’s not listening to your gut. That’s directly observing your environment and recognizing it’s not safe. 😂
That is genuinely terrifying. so glad your mom is safe!
That is obedience to the leading of the spirit of God
@@Stumpchunkman226Observation of your environment and recognizing that it is not safe is literally part of your intuition or your "gut feeling", wtf is your point?
Thank you for addressing the myth of serial killers being "geniuses" who evade police capture. So many just take advantage of holes in a system that doesn't care about minoritized people.
I was minoritized Christian, but I don’t go to church anymore
Not everything is about you tho
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Daycare at a logging camp. Ronnie was clearly desperate. When ronnie was unable to get his brother to watch his kids and the mystery man told him that there was actually day care at the logging camp, I'm guessing alarm bells went off for he and/or his wife, hence the disturbing last words on the call. It seems like they ignored their gut on this one.
I guess the risk seemed less significant than the reward in that moment. Absolutely tragic
they probably thought that it seemed to good to be true and that it was all just way to convinient but given their situation they decided to take the risk just to support their family. Is truly horrible
Hard to imagine what the motivation would be for the killer. These people didn't have any money, and having to dispose of an entire family (and win a violent encounter with the husband) seems like a steep entry price for just a SA on the wife (if that was the motivation), and we don't know if Ronnie had even mentioned his family at all at the point that the two began discussing work at the logging camp (leaving open the possibility that the killer was primarily interested in Ronnie).
The two advantages this course of action seemed to have was getting one/some/all of these people to _willingly_ travel to a destination in the middle of nowhere (where nobody would be around to see or hear whatever happened next), and also to eliminate the only other person who could point investigators in the right direction. The kids seemed to just be in the wrong place at the wrong time, but I'm not any kind of expert on this case (or an expert at all, for that matter)
Edit: I wrote another long post after thinking this over some more and I've become pretty convinced that this is likely to be sexually motivated
@@mackhomie6 motivation could very well just be racism tbf. thatd be my guess based on how youre saying with there not really being any other reason to do this
@@mackhomie6video said most victims in Highway 16 are indigenous. Don’t be surprised if he killed other indigenous. Racism motive
The second I realized the family was an indigenous one, I knew the police would make this case a frustrating one. HUGE props to you for not making the fact that this was likely a hate crime a side note, and for noting the violent history the Canadian government has with its indigenous population, many other creators wouldn't.
Nazi crown colony
All channels do tf
Oh give it a rest, it’s a cold case, stop accusing police of not caring about Indigenous people. I am Indigenous, and it is such a false narrative. Like there are no Caucasian people missing for decades or Caucasian families missing or murdered that are COLD cases!
They are mostly killed by other natives, not by Whites are you are insinuating.
While I agree indigenous ppl seem to get unfairly forgotten by police in these cases, I believe the narration here was misguiding, it seems to me police genuinely had trouble setting the record straight from the stories told by family members, including the one who actually told police they had been found and were fine. That detail alone to me seems massive and warranting of an investigation, if a family member indeed said that then that person must have been somewhat involved in a cover up yet the narrator here glossed over like it was just police making stuff up, did they make it up or did the family member lie? That's a pivotal question, not an anecdote to just move on from.
There's a deeply upsetting pattern here in Australia where law enforcement frequently dismisses cases of missing Indigenous people by saying they've probably gone walkabout (a traditional practice that does NOT mean disappearing without telling anyone) - even in cases of missing young children. I'm always happy to see these greater issues talked about.
Aussie here too! There's also been numerous cases of aus police picking up indigenous people (particularly kids) and then dropping them off in random extremely rural areas in the middle of the night
@@eeeeeeeeeerrrAnd letting white men who lynch Indigenous people get away with it. Sick pigs
Dont forget, indigenous people commit horrific crimes also. They’re not treated poorly by police because they got drunk under a tree.
Machete attacks, rape, pedophilia and brutal assault just to name a few.
Sad, but true. I was going to make a similar comment myself, but you beat me to it. Well said. 👏Unfortunately, the racist legacy of colonialism is alive and well in both Canada and Australia.😢😡
So disgusting. Lord knows the long list of systemic abuse that still occurs today. No doubt if it were revealed these atrocities would ignite protests, revolts, perhaps revolution.@@eeeeeeeeeerrr
this started out as a true crime video and ended up being a documentary that genuinely educated me. thank you so much for being so thorough.
An example to follow.....
I agree. I've watched 2 RH videos so far and I think it's so nice how she's not disrespectfull at all, no glitz and glam and sensationalism. Just a story, told very well, acknowledging the indegenious part of the equation and all that. Genuinly brings me hope in humanity.
I'm watching this on july 26th, and according to 31:12, it would have been little Ryan's 38th birthday today. Happy birthday, Ryan. You and your family are not forgotten, and hopefully one day, your disappearance will be solved and you all will be at peace.
Heartbreaking.
The picture of the sister, with her sign "Taken Not Forgotten", just made me cry. This is just heartbreaking.
I know she holds a lot of guilt about it. But to go through so much (most of which I didn't mention in this video) and to still have the balls to stand up and say "no, this is my sister and this isn't fair" is a real testament to her character.
Taken Forever sounds close to reality
As a Canadian I have to say I have immense respect for how open and real you are about the horrible treatment of indigenous communities instead of tip toeing around the details. A lot of the history classes I did in school very vaguely grazed on it with a very broad open ended description and then moved on like it wasnt important that there was a mass murder and torture of people that happened here. Thank you for your amazing work and research on these videos
I have to agree. I had to sign up for a special social justice class just to learn about indigenous groups in Canada and the injustices that they faced. (Deplorable that it wasn't in history classes to begin with) It was a class run by a teacher who made it her passion to teach topics that weren't regularly taught. The school board hung it over her head that if students didn't sign up-- she couldn't teach it. I'm forever grateful that we had members of different groups come in and share their experiences and open up about the terrible things they were forced to go through, like the residential schools. It's not something we should ever forget.
The thing is it's the same everywhere. I'd turn myself in to whoever did this for a accurate sociopath test used countrywide, if your profession includes authority that means you passed. I assume it won't be quick for me, nobody needs to know about my sacrifice either.. besides me and my new housemate whose above me on the ground floor loading a syringe with muscle relaxer, he won't take me for a spin without it.
In both of the high schools I attended it was mandatory to take an indigenous focused art class and English class which focused on art and literature created by indigenous people. In one of the indigenous studies English classes I took, at the second school I went to, we had to do research on historical events focusing on the injustices and the oppression of indigenous peoples here in Canada. (I live in Ontario btw). I did mine on the Oka Crisis, but a girl in my class did one on the highway of tears. It was the second time I had heard of it but the first time I had really learned about it and became familiar. That was a project that stuck with me, because as we all presented our research and applied the context of Indigenous culture and the generational trauma caused by residential schools, I could tell we all gained an emotional connection and understanding of the topics we chose and learned about. It became even more personal to me then.
As a young, white Canadian, I am genuinely glad to see Canada's horrific history truthfully being taught in school today, for I probably would have remained sheltered from it just as past generations have. I think being upfront about the validity of Canada's brutal treatment towards indigenous peoples, allows people to truly see the problem and understand, in a clearer sense, the next steps to reconciliation. Obviously there is a loooonggg way to go, but it feels like we're in a step in the right direction. More than we ever have been. The way the information was presented in this video helps people from in and outside of Canada become aware of its history as well, which is something I admired.
Canadian and I agree as well. It wasn’t until university I had an inkling of what absolute horrors happened to the indigenous people of Canada *and* what effects it continues to have on them and their communities.
I also guessed as soon as I heard the family member’s names that the case was not given the attention it deserves from the police and media.
I live in the US and it's mostly the same here. in school we'd talk about this for a day or two, maybe a week, then just keep going to talk much more extensively about some random white dude. It's infuriating
I grew up on the streets of this cesspool. I saw the ads about the family on TV. I watched my friends disappear over the years and have no idea how I’m still alive. Thank you for presenting this with such respect.
Did you or other locals have any theory on this or other dissapearences?
@@rugeramerican308 doesn't it kind of come through by his comment? It's clear he's a minority and he's witnessed some serious abuse against indigenous people. Or at least unexplained events causing them to disappear. I would say discrimination/serial killing would be the best guess.
@@SH-to8sh - Why do you presume it's a he? I'd wager the OP is female.
@@SH-to8shits plausible but the thing that strikes as odd is the police AND the media united that the familly is found and "fine",thats not incompetence nor racism BUT malicious imho and could indicate they were either killed by a serial killer OR a powerfull group of ogran traffickers
I’m an indigenous lady. Yurei = ghost. No one I knew there had any clue what happened. It’s obviously more than one serial killer. I left 20 years ago and i don’t even visit, Prince George is now full of meth addicts, violent homeless camps and often has the highest murder rate per capita in Canada. Best hope is that all the fracking around there causes enough earthquakes to swallow the city whole.
Riveting and heartrending. Thank you for bringing such thought-provoking incidents to the attention of a wider audience.
I'm sorry how much fucking money did you donate!?
Wow you must really like him, Nice!
@@titan_hublol that’s 2,000 Indian rupees, so about 24 dollars in United States. Like yes but not 2,000 dollars lol
Oh, still he very must like him@@justins794
@@justins794 ₹2000 is a lot for most of Indians to just donate it in a video , so.....
Incredible film. I'm from Washington State, just below BC and spend a lot of time there. There are SO many missing indigenous peoples there. I don't understand it, but of course, it's still a bit of the "Wild West" here on the rugged, far, Pacific coast. Thanks again for this. And I look forward to your next video. Cheers!
Thank you 🙏 I really appreciate it!
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why couldn't you give that money to a african american that is oppressed by americans?
Don't even get me started, bruh
As a Tsimshian who lives less than an hour from Prince Rupert, this is something I grew up terrified about, and would constantly be trying to prevent since I was only 5 and I am so grateful that the horrific conditions we experience are FINALLY being talked about more. So from the bottom of my heart, thank you for helping bring attention to an issue that is all too often ignored or swept under the rug
I'm amazed by the amount of native women compared to native men in the comments
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@@RaytardtheUntrainableyou’re a loser
@@RaytardtheUntrainablewtf is funny
@@nakedbarebear8090Read his name, "Raytard". Makes sense why he's laughing right now.
Thank you for discussing this case. I'm indigenous myself and the continual apathy surrounding indigenous disappearances and murders is truly infuriating. We're just not "interesting" enough for our deaths to be worth the effort, even just to talk about.
Also, to all the people saying this history "isn't real horror", this video is talking about children being kidnapped from their parents, not allowed to bond with family or engage with their culture, being abused in every way possible, then growing up and not receiving the help they need when their lives are in danger, all due to something they can't change. I think that qualifies as horror.
You and your whole family go missing and no one is properly looking for you? Sounds like horror to me
Small children most likely being murdered is exactly what horror sounds like
Worst part is this type of treatment continued well past what most think. I remember heart that in the 60s and 70s the Canadian version of CPS was removing children from their families “because they were poor” and still institutionalized them. So on certain levels it continued and while less overt still does so. So of course the native communities will be closed off and not talk to the cops, they are the enemy
Goes to show how normalized violence is against indigenous populations in the Americas. Its sickening that people have been conditioned into being so apathetic so that the systematic oppression of a group can be acceptable
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My mom has been missing for 5 years from Alberta.. she is part Cree and was homeless/addicted to drugs all my life, so the police just literally don't care... seeing that the jack family got no coverage at all really makes me think of her case.....
"homeless/addicted to drugs"
I’m very sorry that happened, I hope you find closure someday
I’m terribly sorry that you’ve had to go through this. Prayers for closure!
@@andy-xz2ukand?
@@panini1292and police don’t really care for homeless drug addicts hence she’ll never be found unless she comes forward herself
I just refuse to believe that the strange man had no involvement in what happened to the family. Who would just go to a random guy in a bar you don’t frequent and offer him a job? Not only that, but to keep adding details to the job so that Ronnie couldn’t say no, such as hiring his wife and having a conveniently located daycare for the children. At 1 AM?? I hope that the truth comes out soon and that the family gets the peace they deserve after all this time
Edit: I’m not at all blaming the family for agreeing to this whole deal. I was never and will never be in their shoes so I can’t pass judgement on them. I am pointing out that the theory that the stranger wasn’t involved in the disappearance doesn’t make any sense to me
Knowing the RCMP I think it's fair to assume they have precisely 0 people working on this case and if the truth ever comes out it won't be as a result of any so-called "investigation."
Yeah. It seems that way. And evidence seems to suggest that Ronnie attempted to get someone to care for the kids (his brother) before accepting the offer, so it clearly wasn’t the ideal scenario for the family, else they wouldn’t have made that call. People say the offer of daycare is weird but what if was more casual (as in ‘just bring the kids and watch them yourself’) and Ronnie just said day care was available to his mom to appease her? Then such an offer would have been much for believable for Ronnie and Doreen. The offer may have just been made at 7pm but they were chatting in the pub for a while, and 1am was just when they left as Doreen would have needed time to prepare for the kids. So many aspects to this case. If only there were more witnesses in the pub that night…
And the way he hurried them, they had to leave that night!
Many would. Never under-estimate human stupidity!
it depends on what country one is in... in my country strangers offer other strangers jobs all the time. I had a friend come over and visit me for three months from overseas and while he was here, he had two offers given to him for a job just out of the blue by strangers (when he wasn't even after a job).
Most true crime commentators, when covering cases like this, put the fact that it was most likely a hate crime against indigenous people as a side note. I appreciate the fact that you genuinely took the time to explain the atrocities committed by the canadian government and police against indigenous communities, and how that long history of violence is being continued today. As you said, things like this do not happen in a vacuum. It's a continuing cultural genocide. I'm certain that if it was a white family that went missing, it would make national headlines for years.
It’s also imo an opportunity based crime (not always hate focused); they know they won’t be prosecuted so they’ll focus on certain minorities knowing police and governments won’t put much effort into things. I have a friend who is a native and was violently attacked and brutalized by a white man, he had 5 other victims. He attacked a white woman and was convicted of a less severe attack on her and jailed for a few years. The police never filed charges against him for the native women even after lots of evidence it was the same guy, those cases are either cold or closed. My friend has been trying to find out why now that she’s an adult and can advocate for herself but the department still has little interest in it, maybe hate crime on governs now that I think about it; turning a blind eye so these communities will still suffer; but to the criminal they’re just easy prey with 0 consequences
@@jettanyx1 70% of murdered Canadian indigenous women are murdered by the own partners. They're also 3 times as likely as non indigenous Canadian to suffer from DV>
@@isabellind1292 I know, its similar for natives in the US
@@isabellind1292 yep, misogyny always trumps any other form of bigotry. that's why all women of colour are victims of crime at a much higher rate than men of colour. similar rates of crime are prevalant in all poverty stricken groups
@@isabellind1292😢💔🇨🇦
The fact you make these brilliant videos alone is honestly astounding. You have a real talent and, although there are a lot of horror story channels out there, yours deserves far more praise and attention: particularly since you provide such broad, well researched context for each story that goes the extra mile in terms of immersion. Long may it continue! Thanks for all your efforts.
The RCMP getting pissy about indigenous locals "not helping enough" when EVERYONE knows cops put minimal effort/resources/manpower into these cases is WILD to me. What a horrific tragedy for this family and their community.
Thats very true or they say oh well they had a history of running away or drinking or drugs or prostitution like these arent humans and like that even matters in this situation obviously if they come from a historically poor and neglected area then theirs gonna be higher numbers of people with substance issues and people doing whatever they can for money the lack of police interest over a period of 50 years is extremley infuriating 🤬
They just want someone to blame. Cops whether from Canada, UK, to Asia, are all the same. PIGS!
When my cousin disappeared the police refused to search for her for 48 days, we the whole village searched for her and found her dead body in the woods in a condition so terrible I'm not sure I can even say it and they never investigated.
The case is technically open but they questioned nobody and did nothing we had to demand the autopsy report for weeks and it has been 7 years
@@kaniq6120’m so, so sorry. So much love to you and your family and community. I couldn’t imagine.
@@kaniq6120 My heart goes out to you with my deepest sympathy and apology. Absolutely horrific to hear.
I can only imagine that these officers/investigators have detached from reality to be so callous and be able to sleep at night. It's unexceptionable to be in that profession yet to be without some kind of a soul.
I’m an indigenous women from bc, this story has always been one that I find myself coming back to. Thank you for covering it. It’s always such a validating feeling when a channel i frequent speaks on the issue of missing indigenous peoples in Canada.
@SH-to8sh 'a classic for the campfire'? This isn't some childish horror fable, it's a real case with real people who are victims of systemic racism, and further horrors beyond our comprehension. Think before you type, especially if you're replying to someone who themselves is a minority
@@SH-to8sh girl stfu. jesus christ, people like you are so insensitive
@@SH-to8sh You are the definition of why we failed as a society.
No. The guy who did this to the Jack family and the investigation (or lack thereof, shall we say) is the definition of why we failed as a society.@@vagabond2570
@@assas1nscreed Im a minority, Navajo.
there is no such thing as "systemic racism"
I can name 2 people right now who lost heir life to gun violence, one was half white the other was gunned down in some sort of gang initiation at a red light.
Their stories didnt even get front page in our own town. Take your democratic talking points and shove it up your ....
"Will we ever find out what happened to the Jacks family? I have no idea. But somebody does." These parting words paired with the sketch of the unknown man was deeply unsettling. It kept me up for hours the first time I watched this video, and even now as I rewatch it, I have to look away. Your videos are informative, respectful to the victims and insanely well made when it comes to sharing these horrific stories. Please keep up the great work!
I think your covering of the systemic racism that first nation people's face was honestly so vital to hear.
I'm a guy from England, so I'm pretty damn far removed personally from so much of it to the point it's just really hard to actually learn about. That said, from the sadly little amount I've heard, indigenous Americans culture and history is just Incredible.
I knew about the schools, and knew about the poverty. But to hear how much is still going on just fills me with such god damn shame. I honestly was verging on tears. I don't know what we expect when i clicked this video, but thank you. Sometimes a kick in the teeth like this is just the best way to learn.
Do you happen to know any charities that would seek to improve the conditions for indigenous people in Canada? I know i can just Google some bit i like to get some opinions on which ones are actually good.
I was the same until I began looking at the data. It’s a human rights issue, plain and simple. Thank you friend 🙏
here are some BC charities that are either specifically for indigenous people, have indigenous programs, or deal with issues that disproportionately effect indigenous peoples (I'd love to add some links, but If I do youtube will nuke my comment.)
aboriginal mother centre society (provides free housing for mothers and children at risk of homelessness and helps them get back on their feet)
pacific association of indigenous women (provides childcare, youth outreach programs, and education in indigenous languages)
the downtown east side women's centre (provides food, housing, vocational programs, and cultural programs to those effected by homelessness in vancouver's notoriously impoverished downtown east side)
squamish helping hands (provides addiction recovery programs, mental health support, free food, and housing support)
RAVEN trust (provides legal aid to indigenous people protecting their land rights)
@@bogwife7942 thank you. I'll be sure to donate as soon as I can. Really appreciate the help
You have white saviour complex
If you care so much about indigenous people, why are you selling out your own country lol
"Jack family are buried at the south end of Morton ranch"
"Is this regarding the Jack family?"
Fantastic detective work RCMP
what are you saying ? you know something ? or you just comment on video ?
@@marlenejack4861 I'm sorry I don't know anything, I just think the RCMP really fumbled on this case and that moment was a good example of how incompetent they could be
Was there ever any follow up on that call?? Did they do any digs out there?
@@tannerb1527 according to the video they aren't sure what ranch is actually being referenced, and while they did some digs they weren't able to find anything. :(
Smartest Canadian
My brother Meysam Mokri vanished into thin air in Aug of 2014. We are immigrants and very little was done to look for him. There has been absolutely no trace of him. But when a white woman literally blocks away went missing, it was all over the news. Helicopters all over our neighborhood, massive search party went on foot with dogs through the surrounding area, including forests. She was found almost 2 hours away in another city. But what about my brother. His disappearance has devastated me!
BC has a huge problem with the number of people who go missing in this province and nothing is being done about it! This is absolutely horrible and unacceptable! What is it gonna take for them to take this matter seriously???
These are living, breathing human beings. They are someone’s loved ones! How can they vanish without a trace?? 😭😭🤣
I hope you find out what happened to your brother one day 🧡
@@SugarandSarcasm thank you. Not having closure is so difficult 🥺
stay strong, i send my best wishes to you. i cant imagine how frustrating it is, thinking if the police had just helped your brother might've been found as quickly as that white woman. i hope you get that closure you desperately need
@mehrimazedeh that is so very kind of you 🙏🙏🫶
@@albedoweatheruno thank you for your kind words. They mean so much to me 🙏🙏🫶
I wonder how the uncle who didn't want to take in the kids felt about what happened. I would have been tormented with guilty forever.
That's what I immediately thought about as well, I would forever feel guilty that because of a choice I'd made the kids went missing too. Not that it was the uncle's fault of course, he had no way of knowing what was happening, but if it were me the what ifs would kill me.
it seems like it would be a red herring but I believe the uncle was present at the house at 1am..which is weird in itself. If it was to say goodbye he may have warned them...we don't know that detail. Don't forget these were desperately hungry people, but on the other hand I wonder if it was something sinister arranged within the family.
@@SH-to8sh I thought it was a cousin visiting, not the uncle.
@@margeebechyne8642 it was the uncle..he told his brother too before they left
@@SH-to8sh Oh, okay. I probably should listen again, but this one was a hard one for me. The children make it so hard.
It is absolutely horrific the level of desperation someone has to be in to jump on a "job" offer like that from a stranger. It reeked of ill intent from the get go, but then to offer child care and a ride out for the whole family is just an entirely different level of manipulation. I can't imagine what circumstances would drive me to take that risk.
I do really wonder though, why Robbie didn't get an address, company name, or contact number at all to relay to his mother, especially with that last comment on the phone. He knew there was something suspicious, even if the remark was meant as a joke it's rooted in concern.
I really do wish for any information on this case to arise, the family and community deserve closer after all this time.
Yea but she blamed institutional racism so f WHT people right? Lol it's not our fault he put his family at risk
@@jason.larsenthedanishgreek1226 hush cry baby
let's not act as if people of color aren't put at a disadvantage because of colonialism. You are more likely to sympathize with people who look like you, that is a fact. Argo the media and police force, mostly white, aren't going to care about cases revolving around minorities as much as their own race. And it is nobody's fault, in the families disappearance, but the person that took them, HE is the one who planned it, HE is the one that lied to them, and ultimately made them disappear. The father acted in desperation, for what he thought was the betterment of his children. There is no such thing as a perfect victim, and the fact that you rather blame the father than the PERPETRATOR speaks volumes. But yeah keep talking about how white people are somehow the victims of this story and not the missing family. You are disgusting.
@jason.larsenthedanishgreek1226 Did you stop watching the video halfway through? Of course the problems in this case stems in institutional racism. 1. The father would've and taken the risk if he wasn't in poverty that is extremely common in Native Americans because of how few enoconmics
Economic opportunities they are given
I can't imagine how that brother feels. One could never assume this tragedy, but knowing those children could have come with his family and been ok. I hope his heart heals.
my first thought upon hearing it. I would have felt insanely guilty about it
All he had to do was babysit for two weeks. For his brother going through financial struggles. Refusing was foolish, and his choice
@@EntertainMeTVI don’t think it’s fair to assume his brother had it any easier. Perhaps their family was also struggling and they couldn’t afford to care for additional kids for those two weeks. The family probably has enough guilt on their conscience already without others blaming them for the actions of a monster and the complicity of the police.
@@EntertainMeTVcome on dude. He suddenly was told in the middle of the night that he’d have to start watching his brothers kids the next day for two whole weeks. That’s a sudden thing to be told with no warning, it’s fully understandable why he’d decline
@@audellaroque4730if a family member called me like that in the middle of the night, I’d be asking all kinds of questions. What an odd thing to ask, and to have to leave right then and there in the middle of the night to this mysterious job? No certain location? Idk. I’m sure he does feel guilty, but it really is overall an odd situation. No time to even think about things or figure if they can make it work. I understand why he said no, but I wonder if he told him anything else. Like maybe not to go or if he’s sure it’s legit. Maybe he did say something, and that’s why he got the idea to tell his mom to go look for him if he didn’t come back?
As soon as I heard RCMP I already knew how this was going to go. It's just rage-inducing the treatment that indigenous people get in this country and the complete lack of care from police officials and the government is astounding.
@@NickyBlue99Don't be so heartless and cruel, Pale Face.
@@NickyBlue99bigot
Agreed the RCMP are useless. All that time elapsed had allowed the obvious dodgy creature posing as a person with a too good to be true job setting his sights on a poor and desperate indigenous family in the late 1970s early 1980s. That amount of time could allow the creep to kill and bury the family in the snowy Forrest or leave them in the snowy province, to succumb to the elements. Drown them in the lake in body bags.... Somewhere cold and the snow fell over the years on their corpses..
well, Canada, Aus, and USA are all Britain Jr. so what can we expect? 😢
What does RCMP stand for?? I understand it is the police?
This one really struck a chord in my heart. Those poor souls deserved better. Thank you for covering this ❤
The idea of day care at a logging camp might sound weird but on a summer vacation in the BC interior in '84 or '85, we took a wrong turn and ended up on a logging road, at the end of which was a logging camp that looked more like a campground there were so many campers and families. We were allowed to stay for a couple days because the people running the camp were really nice and understood how we got there (and dad just happened to have a few bottles of rye in the camper..) but there were dozens of kids of all ages. That kind of camp existed so It's not completely outside the realm of possibility for a job prospect to include daycare, which would really make a the Husqvarna guy's story believable.
This was absolutely phenomenal in every way. This police investigation would be hilarious if it wasn't so horrifically tragic. I really can't believe I've never heard of this family and this moved me so so so so deeply
Well there's very little the Police can do if you *carelessly* place yourself in danger! I mean seriously, who invites a TOTAL STRANGER into their home and entrusts their wife and children into their hands?
@@Peekaboo-Kitty You really didn't listen to this video, did yyou
Thank you for highlighting the sort of disappearances that most true crime won't cover.
Thank you. I think so much of that has to do with a ‘cycle of apathy’. It’s really hard to report on something that has almost no coverage (because journalists generally don’t deem native people going missing to be interesting), therefore - without any facts around the case - people lose interest and speculate less and police are ultimately less pressured to put more resources into a case. But that cycle in itself is extremely telling.
... I've seen this story many times on other true crime channels.
I've heard this story a few times on TH-cam as well. You might just not be looking for these kinds of stories. Personally, I'm glad more people cover it and this channel has such great editing and graphics to add more perspective on this case.
@@Stabity thank you! I don’t necessarily know that the full facts of this case have been covered but yes, I have seen videos on the Jack family. My big hope is that more content will be created around this. I wrote a 10k word article outlining all the current publicly available info, fully cited, and I really hope it can be used as a basis for a deeper dive, maybe a multi-part podcast or something. My 35 mins is only scratching the surface, the article is much, much more in depth.
@@Stabity can you tell me the names of the channels that cover these types of stories or this story in particular? i'm an avid true crime watcher and this is the first time i've heard of this case. the algorithm is notorious for suppressing these types of stories and i'd like to expand my horizon!
the fact that this happens to native people especially women constantly at ridiculous rates is horrifying. i’m native and thank you so so much for covering our stories. when you’re native police and rcmp, even normal people don’t care as much about native people. they don’t see their humanity and assume they’re drinking or leading an unsavoury life as a response to trauma caused by racism and the canadian government. history, they’d say. but it’s my families stories. i hope one day people can care about us being murdered at horrifying rates. cause no one really does. it’s heartbreaking. it honestly makes me feel hopeless as a native teen to see how most of society ignores us even in death.
I’m an indigenous person who resides in Canada and wanted to say I really appreciate that you went into detail about Canada’s treatment of our peoples as a factor in this case and not just a simple “serial killer was smart!”
You’ve earned my respect 🧡
I'm generally not a fan of systematic racism arguments, but this one is indisputable. Either the leadership of the RCMP is rotten or there is legit institutional racism going on here. Its fucking pathetic our taxes go towards such a backwards organization.
same here, they just earned a subscriber 🧡
Man, as a Canadian I got chills at this “but somebody does…and whoever that person is, chances are they’re still out there” yikes, really got me thinking. What an incredibly sad story though.
you earned my respect for this one it’s very much a victim-centered approach with candidness on the specific roadblocks indigenous people face as well as law enforcement incompetence. You’re a highly competent filmmaker, your work is better than a lot of TV “true crime” productions
Kind of reminds me of the case here in Ohio where you had a guy offering people a job to work on his farm. But come to find out he was a straight-up serial killer.
@@Abstract I think this serial killer got his victims by placing ads on Craigslist.
Do you mean Richard Beasley?
was this the guy who "hired" another desperate couple similar to this one and then immediately killed the man once they arrived and kept the girl in a shipping container torturing her? Or am I thinking of yet another story
Was that the same or another as the guy who owned like a closed down farm and would tell people it was a club or something, invite homeless women, drug them so they couldn’t leave the party and then chop them up on the farm
@@JensenWinchester1You're thinking of Todd Kohlhepp in South Carolina. It was two couples at separate times. With the first couple, he ended up killing the woman too because she kept fighting back.
Your production quality is immaculate, and I can’t commend you enough for your acknowledgement of First Nations peoples’ struggles at the hands of the RCMP and media outlets. Thank you for doing this. I hope you can keep going.
I have lived in BC my whole life. Most folks from here can't cover these stories with this kind of compassion and nuance. Thank you for telling this story with such depth
This video made me so sad. I've lived in BC my whole life and it's an absolute travesty the continued deaths of these people and the lack of action by our government. We have so much more progress to make.
Thank you for shining a light on this case and the highway of tears in general.
Are you indigenous, or a descendant of the marauding killers?
It's not just a lack of action. Our government has funded the kidnapping of Indigenous Children in the past, in the name of destroying indigenous language and culture. Those in power in our government are choosing to look the other way, if they aren't actively involved.
@@barneyronnie Or neither? Not every person who eventually immigrated to Canada were part of the Colonization/Theft of Indigenous Lands and Murder of Indigenous People. Some immigrated to Canada as a refuge from the horrors, and religious conflicts in their previous homes.
Amazing work. Very chilling. The police's incompetence and severe mishandling of this case creates a whole new type of horror.
May the Jack family find peace.
Seems very common in these
Well there's very little the Police can do if you *carelessly* place yourself in danger! I mean seriously, who invites a TOTAL STRANGER into their home and entrusts their wife and children into their hands?
@@Peekaboo-Kitty you dont understand how bad those people have it do you, most of them do not have cars or trucks, so they have to hitch hike, jobs are almost impossible to find, have you ever been on tribe land its like a third world country and people in Canada could care less about those people there just natives who cares right
The killings keep going on down this highway.
If they cared they would make an effort to do something.
@@Peekaboo-KittyYou SMELL of privilege
the institutional racism in canada and the us is truly a terrifying pattern, especially in the cases of missing and murdered indigenous people. thank you for touching on this, it's rare to find channels that speak about cases like this while addressing systemic issues.
There is no systematic racism in either country.
@@jordannewman177only a white person would say that, I don’t suppose that means anything to you. It’s one of those, if it doesn’t happen to me or my family, it doesn’t exist.
@@jordannewman177 >yt people say the darndest things
@@jordannewman177 there is no war in ba bing se
@@brkctrlOnly a non white person would attribute systemic oppression to their own failures.
The audacity of the man to walk into a bar full of people and sit at the house with family members able to identify him makes me think he’d done it many times to feel comfortable enough to pull it off.
it sounds to me Ronnie is the one who often got his family into trouble too. Beating on his wife, drinking away precious dollars at a pub and finally accepting a job offer only to have him and his family never to be seen again. This was just a concoction of bad decisions leading up to something sinister.
Yeah, not saying he’s a genius in anyway, but he’s so sure no one will notice him, he must live far far away. Or he’s dumb! Well he’s Dumb regardless! Even if he was a genius, showing your face at a bar with a guy you’re about to make disappear is unbelievably ignorant!
@@txkoutdoorfam6911 I don't think he's a genius. I think he just targets people he knows people won't be looking for (indigenous). No one's stopped him before, why should he be worried about someone stopping him now, is what I think he thought before he made these decisions
@@SH-to8sh There's no evidence the man targeted the rest of the family either. The man targeted RONNIE. Ronnie was a drunk and desperate. You wouldn't need to know him to realize he was an easy mark. Then Ronnie brought up his wife. "Well, bring her too! They need more people, she can be trained on the job." Then Ronnie hesitated because of the kids. "Well, they got camp ladies doing cooking who watch each others' kids. Its no problem." The rest of the family were endangered because RONNIE wanted them with him.
The crazy thing is, I now believe this whole case could seemingly still be innocent.
Imagine if he really was a logger at a struggling company and needed men to do trial work before fully committing? I believe the man told Ronnie that the job was only for 10 days. The eerie thing is we have no evidence of anyone hiring or a mysterious man going missing. No car crash or bodies, So it likely is foul play,,
I'm not trying to stick up for the man but the bush area and a car crash is def still being considered a possibility combined with alcohol.@@Badficwriter
As a young Indigenous woman I can't thank you enough for shining a light on this case. I am in law enforcement in the US and have been fascinated by this case since I first heard about it. If I was a retired detective I would dedicate the rest of my life searching for these poor people, that apparently no one cares about, except their remaining families and communities. I have a little experience with being thought unworthy due to being Native and it is just unexceptable, in this day and age, especially when two little boys were involved. 💔😔😪
Women in this country are treated w/disrespect..
@@Cokehead_Drug_Addict_ZelenskyHow dare you. If you don't have anything non-racist to contribute, leave.
Is racism really that bad for indigenous North Americans?
@@Raptor810Blue It's actually quite bad in America but it seems worse in Canada. Google Indigenous residential school deaths in Canada. The number of Indigenous deaths of children is horrific and they find their bodies in mass graves under the old school buildings. Today many Indigenous people are still very much treated like second class citizens. As a 28 year old half Indigenous, half white, University educated woman i still experience quite a lot of racially motivated disrespect. It can get discouraging.
Do you mean unacceptable? 😊
Almost the entire interior of this province is an ideal spot for someone wanting to harm others or commit any horrible acts without getting caught, especially up north. The northern half of BC only has a population of roughly 260,000 despite being 569,000 square kilometres. That’s one tenth the population of Brooklyn in an area larger than the UK. It’s also incredibly easy to get lost, even for those familiar with the areas. Just minutes from a town or city can find you in places of unnerving isolation with no one else around. Mountains, hills, valleys, canyons, thick forests, swamps, raging rivers, etc. it’s all here, and it’s a perfect place for evil to hide. Add in the systematic racism, bureaucracy, and general laziness of the RCMP and chances anyone will be found are frustratingly small. I hope proper closure can be achieved for the families of all those missing one day, and that justice can be served to all who have destroyed these people’s lives. Exceptional documentary!
thank you so much for including the abuse and neglect of indigenous peoples by the Canadian police system, not a lot of people know about these injustices and it is a breath of fresh air to see a big channel talk about it.
I feel like it's because there is so much focus on the racism and corruption of law enforcement in the USA, that the horrible crimes committed by the Canadian Police System gets swept under the rug. A lot of Canadians pat themselves on the back saying that we aren't as bad as the USA, but that's just willful ignorance. I remember when I was young finding out about Canadian History Of Residential Schools for the Indigenous Children. It disgusts me how our own government funded the kidnapping, abuse of Indigenous children, while also trying to destroy their language and culture. The blood of those children is on the hands of the adults that allowed such atrocities to be carried out.
It happens in America too.
Really sad part is indigenous people were here before white came but white people have the gall to say no more immigrants can come here.. All white people are the immigrants..
I had no idea about this situation, but do they perform better and more thorough investigations now?
"Some people are worthy of shining a light on, while others belong in the dark" a matter of fact and reality amongst natives being a victim of crime or even on unequal opportunity. Heart goes out to the Jack family and indegenous people everywhere.
the second i heard B.C. and saw their photos, i knew what kind of “vanishing” we were discussing. investigators repeatedly fail indigenous men, women, children and families and don’t care to bring them home safe. it is a sickening and sobering truth about our home and Native land.
I wasn’t expecting this to turn the way it did. I was just watching some creepy videos for the creepy vibes, but I’m glad you brought up what you did during the highway segment. Thank you for making this and helping me be more aware of this issue. You’re right that these issues are not just happening in a vacuum. What this family and millions of others have been put through for the past several centuries up until today is truly real horror.
Would have liked to see a comparison of cases between this highway and others because we get no sense of how disproportionate it actually is...
all your work is incredible, but this one is especially important. the lack of importance and care around crimes committed against indigenous people needs to be talked about more. systemic racism needs to end. these communities deserve justice, coverage and love.
I could listen to you narrate literally anything. Everything about your narration is so pleasing and adds to the tension of the stories.
You did this family justice and that is so appreciated.
Oh man, the animations are sooo good. It really improves more and more. Always amazing seeing this much work and time you put in these videos.
Not to mention that if you don't trust something or a source, you keep on searching deeper until you know 100% sure. Like MANUALLY checking all those news articles, rather than giving up if there isn't a search result. Mad respects, really.
someone paid for it
Out of all the video essay creators that I have watched, this channel is my favourite.Everything is of high quality, the research,modelling and editing are all very good.But there are many other channels that also has those qualities.But this channel takes the cake for the most important thing in the making of video essays,narration.The way her voice carries so much emotion,you can feel the sadness in her voice and in the story itself.The way she makes you feel for these people that you've never even heard before and I'm over here feeling depressed, sad and angry just because of her script and narration.All this is just to say thank you for this top of the notch content.Thank you for sharing the stories that barely anyone has ever even heard about that are just as important as the famous ones.All around just a big thank you and keep up the content!
Your content is incredible, I really appreciate your in-depth research, sympathy to victims, and diligent research. Everything about your content and channel are just spectacular!
😢Sounds like Vancouver author Eve Lazarus, I've read many of her books Murder by Milkshake, Victoria and Vancouver history.
@@stephenalex4345 ha! Apparently simpletons don't understand arrogance plus ignorance equals hilarious. I get it, ignorance is bliss. Might as well stay ignorant.
This is the first I’ve found your channel . I love you calm and detailed narration, respect for the victims and family, and touch of sarcasm at the investigators
Thanks for putting this together，it's well organized, the graphics are sophisticated and your voice over is gripping❤
I remember my family teaching me about this case when I was younger, this case has always haunted me as an Indigenous person. It just contributed to my understanding of how our community remained underrepresented or cared for. These stories are chilling and untold so I appreciate you sharing this on your platform. We can’t forget about these people.
VERY well done piece not only about the family's disapperence, but also putting it in some context within Canada's ptoblematic relationship with it's indigenous natives
I really appreciate what you're doing with your channel. You go the extra mile to deliver high quality documentaries of these tragic stories and seem to care a lot about each and everyone involved. Thank you very much for your great effort. Keep up the good work, you are exceptional.
Your work quality is phenomenal, happy to see another upload
This is such a beautiful video. So well made. Not sure if you're a one person channel but you speak so soothingly and calmingly. Thank you for this. Please upload more.
I really, really appreciate how detailed, careful, and respectful this coverage is. I had stopped watching true crime because the coverage of it felt extractive and gruesome, but your thumbnail caught my eye and I'm glad it did. Thank you for investing the time to do this (delicate!) production correctly.
the RCMP stating the family had been “found” when they haven’t and publishing misinformation pisses me off so bad 😭
I live in Canada, Born, and raised. I'm now in my 60's, and believe me when I say this is just the tip of the iceberg. The RCMP in every province are the worst you will come across. They have ruined so many lives in Canada who they say they serve. They don't serve anyone except their interests.
I suggest that if you do live in Canada or wishing to visit Canada, take this advice, do not trust any RCMP officer you come across. Never trust them.
Protecting who. A red haired man that is who. Abbotsford 1995-1996. Quess who.
I don't normally comment on TH-cam videos but I just want to thank you for such an amazingly well researched and produced upload. I'm blown away this is free to watch, absolutely fascinating to watch. Thank you!
Your work put into this channel is incredible, level of production, visual, audio etc. is just amazing, I have no words. Please keep doing what you do, this is very much needed and appreciated.
Your stories are the rare ones that I don't see elsewhere or on news. You're narrating is amazing!!! Keep it up!
Your content continues to capture my attention in ways few others can manage. Thank you for providing the necessary context to this incident as well. Too many people become victimized in stories very similar to this one and go neglected and forgotten by the institutions put there to protect them.
Im relatively new to this channel (this is only the second video Ive watched) and I have to say this deserves an award! The content, research and way its made with empathy and intelligence is outstanding.
This is excellent. I'm glad you talked about the underlying causes for why this case didn't receive attention from press or police. It doesn't get talked about enough in this context.
Your channel is by far one of my favourites. Very thorough, very respectful, and very informative. I could wait 5 years for a 10 minute docu from you!
As soon as I saw the photos of the family long before the 18:00 mark, I instantly suggested that the lack of interest by the Police was because of the race of the family. For a very similar reason many of Jeff Dahmer's cases were overlooked - it was mostly black and gay people, which police also didn't care too much about back in those days.
“In those days”?
@@Nocturnalux1994 was thirty years ago, yes it’s “those days”, just like 1964 was “those days” in 1994
Wow I can't believe RCMP mistakenly closed the case basing on their flippant assumptions and disgusting prejudice. I mean they are known for their incompetency but this was next level ridiculous how they botched the investigation in the initial stage. Simply heartbreaking to have seen Doreen's sister break into tears. As if they haven't suffered enough already! Props to you guys for your brilliant work and how you laid this case bare. The narrator is supremely talented and her dedication and commitment reflects through the video. Moreover she didn't hesitate to show her compassion and empathy towards the victims and in essence, natives in Canada who take the hit and I think that's very commendable. Most narrators just read from the script but she seemed really connected to her content. The morbid undertone combined with exceptional research makes this one of the most well-made and thorough videos based on Jack family disappearance! I know chances are very slim but I just hope their loved ones receive some closure. 34 years is not a joke!
I love the amazing editing. People have no idea how much effort and time this takes. You have a gift for sure!
Ha, no kidding. That one calendar transition scene towards the end nearly made me throw my PC out the window 😂
I watch so many skilled one-man documenters on TH-cam (nexpo, lemmino, etc) and honestly yours might be my favorite to listen to. Your speaking style is just much more chilling than the others and your voice is so beautiful. My bad if that sounds weird everything else is nice too that’s just what stands out to me the most 💀
i’m native from northern michigan, and this case hurts me, it’s so tragic. i still can’t believe the police, media, and the public are still so disinterested in this case. thank you so much for shedding light on it.
Your videos are always so fantastic!
Thank you so much Erin!!
just found your channel this morning and have already watched all your videos. the production and quality is amazing. i wish you had more videos, but i can't imagine the time and effort you put into them already. they truly are amazing
please keep up the awesome work
Thank you for taking the time to make a video about this case and dip into issues like MMIW, the highway of tears, the 60s Scoop/residential schools and generational trauma. So many Canadians refuse to take these issues seriously and it’s infuriating. Videos and commentary like this are very important to continue spreading the word and getting people to think critically about these issues. Great video, thank you
YESSSSS A NEW REAL HORROR VID! This one is so close to home i live in the same province it occured.. I want to thank you for giving the family a voice and shedding light on the horrific systemic mistreatment of the indigenous population. It is a huge problem here and it is not talked about enough!
This channel has to be one of the best, highest quality channels I've seen on my like 17 years on TH-cam.
The quality of these videos is sensational, the work that must go into them I can only imagine. Thank you for telling this story in such respectful detail.
I usually put these long form videos in the background while I do other things, but your content is so well-done both visually and research wise that it would feel like a disservice to the effort you've put into it. Thank you for doing what you do!
Thank you for your coverage. We don’t get enough.
Your videos are always a pleasure to watch, even if the content isn't. The production quality and research you perform is amazing. I hope the Jack family finds some peace and justice.
Just wanna say, you voice is the most perfect thing ever to tell such stories, calm, smooth, almost like a whisper, you can feel the eeriness and horrors you’re about to tell us before even telling us
I could not have said it better
You are very talented I love the format of your videos, the tact with which you explore the case, and that it’s a case I’d never heard of before that needs more media attention. Im subscribed and look forward to the next video. May the Jack family Rest In Peace and I hope their family members get closure and justice.
The way you approached this story...the truth of how it was fumbled by racist authorities and so many cases are. I just have huge respect for you. Thank you.
You are my new favourite channel. I found you recently and your video quality is just impeccable. Thank you so much for covering this case. There is a continuous issue of missing and murdered indigenous people in Canada and they never, ever get enough media coverage. Your voice is important.
Thank you for covering this. As a Canadian- its unbelievable how racist our population is toward indigenous people. They get almost no media coverage and they go through some of the worst possible things. Its sad what happened to this family and it definitely could have been handled differently. If they were white they most likely would have had a bigger media presence...
what evidence is there that there was racism involved? There was no evidence of a crime. Yes, they didn't contact their family but then again, these were adults. I see no evidence that the "indifference" was due to racism, as opposed to anything else, such as, nobody wants to believe such a strange, unusual crime has been committed.
If they were white they’d be demonized for simply existing out of some retarded and misplaced social justice attempt by brainwashed leftists and the Marxists that are pulling their strings
Causing a successful, inventive and awesome ppl like the Caucasian people to self loathe over the last 30-40 years is the tiny hats greatest accomplishment
@@raphaellavictoria01So many people comment to go all "erm this is an unusual crime? How is it racist? Who cares" to muddy the conversation. they're uncomfortable with the idea that their nation silently sweeps foreigners and the poor indigenous folk under the rug. there have been schools found to house geaveyards of bodies, mostly indigenous. keep dancing around the screaming truth, it's entertaining
Thanks for proving his point, bigot. You're exactly the type of person to support murderous cops who intentionally kill unarmed people of color then say, "they aren't racist they were just doing their jobs!". There's a word for that... bootlicker. @@raphaellavictoria01
I mean I agree about our horrific and racist past... but to say that this topic gets no media coverage... I mean you must not get cbc where you live. It is most definitely something that's frequently covered, and has been my entire adult life. People get frustrated because the causes to these situations are multifaceted and really hard to fix, and want to jump to the conclusion that there must be public apathy or an unwillingness to try and address the problem. The truth is even worse: people do care, and the governments throw money at it, but the problems are so entrenched and difficult to fix...
I appreciate you not only talking about minority victims , but going into detail at how so many institutions failed minority victims. You didn’t have to make a video about this family nor one talking about the dangers natives face, but you did, and I applaud you for it.
This entire video is on a whole other level of perfection. I was hooked the entire time but the last few minutes of your narration was truly something different. The combination of atmosphere, photo, music and your voice created something haunting, hopeful and tragically poetic. Yes, they may be gone but they are not forgotten and here's hoping the truth comes out in our lifetime. Everyone deserves to come home, everyone deserves justice and we will find the answers some day.
One of the finest narration I've come across. Amazing channel, wish you had more videos.
This is some of the best content on TH-cam. Incredible presentation, delivery, and animation. Bravo!
New subscriber here. Great job. Canadian here who has never heard of this family disappearance...Ive lived in B.C for years as well.. in different areas.
RCMP needs to be dismantled. Toxic leaders.
Thanks!
Real Horror, who are you? You seem to be a documentary superstar, probably (hopefully) working for the best broadcasting companies in the world, and here you are creating these masterpieces for us on TH-cam. Thank you!
you dont have many videos out yet but i can already tell this is going to be (if not already tbh) one of the best true crime docu channels on youtube, you speak on the cases with such respect for the victims and family and i really like how you so far have made videos on less well known cases such as this one. bringing up the issues that indiginous people in canada phase. i hope you keep it up and your channel continues to grow
A fantastically researched and articulated documentary.