Cheap TIG Welder
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024
- Not too many years ago you had to spend over $1,000 to get a decent TIG machine. Now you can get an acceptable one for less than a few hundred bucks! In this video I put a $215 (shipped!) Yes Welder though its paces, and see how it compares to my professional Miller TIG machine. If you're a Patreon supporter of mine, you'll have a chance to win this Yes Welder when I give it away!
LGBT inverter? I think thats the name of that Christian summer camp in Montana
might be monkeypox on it
@@jasonking9727 *”that’s transphobic!”*
My Little Green Bastard Truck is offended! It isn't green, but it's gonna be a truck!
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Those are actually a good welder for light duty.
But how many of us weld 3 ft of weld at a time at max amperage
At 160 amp, I would.
My preferred method is to set current so I can go about as fast as I can with the pedal floored. With an on/off pedal I would have to start at that speed, not roll in to it, I'm not sure if i could do that.
I've never used a pulser, never needed it.
These days any serious machine is going to have lots of gimics because it's just a little programming on the digital controls.
My advice to anyone buying is make sure you get pre/post flow, HF start, variable current pedal and watch reviews. There is a lot of junk out there, a lot of good stuff and a lot in between. If you are trying to go in between to save money, be very careful.
I bought a similar machine for my dad here in germany, his assessment, not even close to professional ones but good enough for the usual household welding and way cheaper.
Yep, a few hundred bucks and bang, you're a welder.
220,221 whatever it takes. Mr. mom
My local FFL just received a big ol wood crate full of BFG-50 goodness with my name on it. Gotta say worth the wait. So glad you started offering the nitride barrel coating, along with the practical side it just looks good. Thanks for putting out a rock solid rifle and thanks to the office people for making everything smooth and easy.
@rusty schackelford Thanks for buying one of my "babies"!
if this is my final TH-cam comment it means I burned my shop down learning how to weld
i don't know about that lgbt welder, may switch polarity without warning
So is LGBT the new way of saying your welder is AC/DC?🤣
Primeweld 225x ac/dc tig for around $800..is a beast and has USA customer service with 3 yr warranty.. Lotos welders are good too but no real customer service or great warranty but the prices are great and machines are actually good..
I have one myself . I’ve welded .043 aluminum and have fusion welded razor blades together with my prime weld . The pulse settings are very nice too
Nice to see you still posting videos, and those were some fine dimes
Say what ya like, that was still better welding than I can do with my sh1tty 20-year-old "pre-owned" MIG setup...
Excellent content as always ya big-old Pew-Pew Designer/Pew-Pew Nut 😎👍
I just wanted to let you know. I enjoy watching crafting videos of all kinds. Plus I have epilepsy. Usually I have to watch welding through a filter. That was the first time I didn't. Thank you! I always wanted to get into machining and welding but it wasn't in the cards for me.
Welding 40 + years.
A Very Rewarding Endeavor.
So far I like your video man and you're the first person I've seen that took a yes welder take 205 DS and put it up next to a professional Miller especially the syncrowave 200 apples for apples but love that you know you tell the truth that you're able to do professional welds with a cheap machine I got a cheap machine I started with a susemse mig-215 and I still have it today.
LGBT welder. I worked with a few of those over the years lol
Well I’m no welder but TIG welding over mill scale will always give horrible results the tungsten stick out was too long for that small cup and the tungsten was contaminated. My experience is grind any material to shiny metal then clean it with solvent if your going to TIG weld it.
so... isn't polartec fleece kinda flammable?
@WA Ivan Yeah, but I actually found that out while shooting fireworks in the shop, not while welding. ;-)
@@markserbu stay safe or at least don’t kill yourself lol
@@markserbu the true way to NFPA test, *FIREWORKS!*
Gotta clean the mill scale...
23:40 Hahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This jus' made my night! Yeah, I have heard this stupid@$$ expression xD
Mr. Mom. I'm an electrician and my boss has a big "220/221 whatever it takes" neon sign in the shop. The 165 amps is probably from using 120V.
Knowledge is power brother
So thank you
Have a great day
Just saying
Mark is a true gentleman. He's willing to give a reach around to make the video better for the viewer.
I own the yeswelder pulse tig with HF start and that machine has been a solid performer. I would take a look at their higher end offerings.
Commenting for Al Gore's rhythm
165 amps on 110v. probably need to plug into 220v to get the full 200 amps.
I’m a welder , I work in boilers and nuclear shutdowns just a couple of tips because I can tell you know how to weld , but your technique is off. 1 clean your metal way better , that’s why the welds looks like horse sh*t , flapper wheel and maybe some sand paper ? 2. Turn your heat down , your welds are burnt out there for shrinking into the metal , yes it’s penetration but the weld is cooking itself out. 3 your not adding enough filler material. Your just dabbing little by little . Use your hand to hold and your finger to feed more metal , it should be good penetration and good support as well, I can tell you have welded a lot so I’m not gonna slam you but , you can do better with a hood or bad machine , have a good day
Sup 50cal Val, hope all is well 👊👍👍🇺🇸🐍
@Guns N' Blades She's got a 1-month old baby boy now!
@@markserbu congrats Granddad!
mark welds can look nice but do you test the depth of penetration? or if they stress the metal around them?
After welding Hold the tungsten against the work piece and bump the pedal/button every second and you get post flow for how ever long you need. I figured it out on my cheap tig. Also you compared the weight like it was a bad thing why would a inverter welder weigh the same as a large transformer welder? There a different beast entirely ones for light duty stuff clearly the other is an industrial grade machine.
What I usually do is inhale some argon and then exhale it right onto the bead as I let off the pedal.
First to add a pedal if you find out what the ohm value for the front amp adjust is, you can get a pedal and match it. Then get a plug to make it a jack in type if pedal and wire it in parallel with a cut off switch.
The pre and post flow can be done easy with a second line off the regulator to where are welding
Mr. Mom! One of my favorite movies!
Where is the link to get it at $215.00 shipped?
Mr. Mom was the movie, but I believe the line was "210, 220 whatever it takes" Great video as usual.
Excellent product video informative and interesting thank you for sharing five stars
That machine only does 165 amps at 120V. If you plug into 220V, you get 200 amps.
Well you say you TIG weld I don't think you do you plug that yes welder into 110 volts you're not going to weld that thick of steel that you've been trying to weld with it you got to plug the 220 part of the plug into a 220 to get the full amperage
Great Report .
Thank You .
Mr. Mom would have prepped the parent metal by brushing, or light sanding.
Probably fine as a farm welder. But for high end stuff like your firearms, no way!
I bought one similar to this about 2yrs ago when I was opening my shop. Mine does have post flow though, no pedal, and high frequency start. I knew I wouldn't be doing a ton with it so I wasn't looking to spend a ton. I was honestly pretty surprised by it. As an arc welder I would rate it as good as any buzz box I've used and actually welded some pretty heavy steel with great results. The tig mode took me forever to figure out, mine has an extra switch an knob that weren't documented in the instructions, although I couldn't understand half the translations anyways. Once I got it figured out it does run pretty good but only running on 220v. I tried it for about 15 minutes on 110v when I had to go weld up a bracket on my dad's tractor and it just didn't seem to have the same output and was unpredictably heating. I have yet to try it with stainless or aluminum but I would assume it's passable. All in all for someone who just needs a welder for odd jobs I wouldn't hesitate to recommend one, for anyone doing serious or extended work on a daily basis it would probably work but I wouldn't bet on it lasting long under those circumstances.
Have you tried welding with it plugged into 220 volt?
When welding that pipe and the surface looked bad it looked like during the actual welding there was wind blowing past that probably blew the gas away. There was smoke so you could see the air moving
Thanks for the video.
I liked the "Uzi test". That was one of the times when I was cursing not having a TIG machine, for sure! I wasn't about to use MIG/FCAW or stick, so I ended up using my oxy/acetylene to build my Uzis. Worked great, still would have preferred a TIG.
It goes to the 205 after you plug it into a 220 outlet.
Hey man! Don't KNOCK the Craftsman AC BuzzBox! I'm still running one to this day! Runs like a champ!
Singer sewing machines make a variable speed foot pedal switch for their machines and look almost identical to the one featured here. Perhaps something to look into. I would tend to believe it would require a slight modification but hey, if it works and doesn't burn your shop down you're good to go.
You would have to "read" the resistance on the control inside the welder After you disconnect all three wires to it ( remembering where the wires go) next you need to read the resistance of the resister block in the pedal. More than likely it will be a mismatch.
There might be some TH-cam videos as to how to make a variable foot switch.
That machine is reminiscent of the $140 flux core welder I got from Harbor Freight.
Neat trick that... Welding the inside of the tube from the outside.
Yes pretty cool stuff!
I am looking at gas welding to make clean welds. It is said that gas welding is used to weld small parts made from plate steel. So it should give some decent results, and i already have the torches, only need to get the cylinders. I think im going to take that a try.
Greetings,
Jeff
I want to learn to tig weld so I can do a G3 clone on a few of my kits . Should I spend a bit more money or would this be ok for a few rifle projects and various practice ? I've done some stick welding and oxygen acetylene as well .
Really depends, is this literally JUST for a few small projects? If so, find something used for cheap, something that you'll actually be able to resale when you're done with it.
If it's a little more than that, something you're planning on keeping for future use, look into Harbor Freight's welders, they're much better than these eBay machines without being too expensive. They have a 140 multiprocess for $550, a little more than double the price of this thing - but it's also a much better DC TIG welder than this, while also having MIG functionality too, and includes a stick stinger,. It's an impressive package for the price, can pretty much do everything but AC TIG(for aluminum and such). Spend money on a good quality regulator(don't cheap out there), good consumables, and an auto darkening helmet and call it a day. Can't beat HF's no questions warranty either, you bring anything back and they just give you a new one lol.
Everlast is another great budget brand, they have a 140 DC TIG/stick for $280 and are solid machines. That thing absolutely craps all over this eBay machine lol. Also, a 140 multiprocess MIG/TIG/stick for $600 that's, frankly, probably a step up from the HF unit - but it's hard to beat being able to run down to HF when you need something(especially warranty stuff). Assuming you have an HF near you of course, would be surprised if you don't.
Anyway, with how good budget level machines are from more legitimate brands(kinda wild that HF can be a more legit brand than eBay brands lol, we've come a long way boys), there's no reason to go with this stuff. I mean, that Everlast for $280 is lightyears better than this, and is an established brand that's actually been around for years now.
edit: I take that back, the Everlast 140STI doesn't have variable control - the $400 160ISTH would be the go to for a real entry level TIG. The 140 is kinda like the eBay machine with its very limited functionality, but a better quality version(you really want variable control though).
Otherwise, I don't think I screwed anything else up lol. Anyway, check out some reviews, a number of welders have machine reviews on YT, and Harbor Freight & Everlast are a good place to start comparing machines(quality/features vs price).
Personally, id use this on projects, but probably not on any pressure sensitive areas. I'd have to have a lot of practice with it before I would trust it that much
Mark, with the YesWelder, if you haven't already done it... have someone set the amps while you are welding. The stick out looked a little too much. It looks like it's almost a 1/2 inch. Cut it back to no not than 3/8 inch. With that gas on that thickness and tungsten size, Argon or 75/25 AR/HE mix @ about 12-20cfh max... with 75/25 the helium will make it burn a little hotter. Not sure if you already know this info, just putting it out there for those wanting to learn more as well.
If some people in the comments get butt hurt watching you weld... they would send death threats after watching me weld.
Always good to see your content and I learned quite a bit about welding so thank you mark appreciate you
I thought the same when the video started on the sharpie box modification. 👍 Otherwise this video really reminds me I need a shop to work in again, at least out of sun and rain.
If I remember right those smaller ones are 200 amps and I haven't had any problem with them almost every so-called cheap welding machine comes with those
I find with the low-end plasma cutters their performance improves when they get the best power available. Mine does much better on 220 than 110.
Immediately smashed the "like" button after clicking on the notification! Good Morning Mark! #NotificationGang
Lmao, not the Abby normal
All I know about welding is from watching YT videos, but that doesn't stop me from calling pigeon shit out when I see it out and about. Good to see you Mark!
I enjoyed the Idiocracy clip at the end, it's basically where we are at this point
"Can you get gun quality welds..."
What. Gun?
Royal None Such, LOL.
Whether you're welding on a PPS (metal tube where the least amount of welding ability is needed) or a trigger sear all gun welds should be the highest quality you can manage.
Abby Normal Young Frankenstein!
It's $168 with free shipping and free returns on the rainforest site...change your opinion?
Gotta love the “Idiocracy” clip! Living that every day, it seems..
You’ll be glad to know mark uses this method to build all his guns.
i'll come show u how to stack some dimes...lol
For tig (Actually GTAW) it's typically called the torch or cup.
For stick welding (SMAW) the clamp that holds the rod is called a stinger.
For MIG (GMAW) it's called a gun.
Interesting, might have to get one of these.
You can add an external pedal with a variable resistor to mimic the factory pedals. You need to read the resistance of the control, disconnect the wires to it knowing where each on goes back on the control. I have seen some videos where people build their own pedals with the proper resistor in it to replace the internal control of the machine. I have a cheap scratch start machine that I am planning to do the same modification. One will need a triple pole double throw switch and a four conductor connector similar to what is used in CB radio microphones. This will allow one to select which control will be used ( foot control for TIG and internal control for stick). BTW who is watching the baby if .50 cal Val is holding the mike. Was talking with a friend who built up a semi Uzi from a parts kit and receiver section they offered in the past. He told me that he butt welded the pieces together without a filler rod. Is this possible or common and is it strong enough without filler? Would it be advisable to weld from both sides considering there is a micro gap on the back side of your last weld. About eight years ago I found some company in the UK who was selling pulser modules to add to existing welders, there might be some plans out there if your a DIY electronics geek.
Keep these educational videos coming!
The welds turn out better when you grind the millscale off.
You would be surprised at how many you tube videos of welders stacking dimes are really using a pulse welder and never mentioning it. It definitely can be done without the pulse. Retired welder here. I love your videos!!!!
Could you do aluminum with this or is it not enough amps? Oh I suppose it would also supposed to have the etching pulse in there too
Continuous ac high frequency is what I’ve always tig welded aluminum with. I’ve heard you can weld with out the high freq but I’ve never tried it. From what I’ve read it’s a really erratic arc with out the high freq and hard to control. But welding amps you could do 1/8 and lower. Anything bigger I bet it would depend on the duty cycle of the machine if you preheat the metal.
Would the Yes welder work better if you put a gas lens on it like you have on the Syncrowave?
Thanks for the education.
Yes Welder is now "woke". I bet they sent a free machine to Elton John for evaluation.
Lets hope TH-cam don't demonetise this one because you mentioned the Uzi 😂
Without further ado, welds tungsten to material
Try ER70S6 for junk material. And a #12 cup.
I have one from China that was $210 and that's bigger and nicer made with nice clamps and such. Thing actually does damn good! Bought a nice Miller at auction cheap and it barely does any better tbh, just has more settings and doesnt require as much focus. And allows high frequency too
Was that a Mr Mom movie reference?
Yup!
Why wouldn't Valerie put her smart finger over the Mic? Lol!
Yes some people say stinger!
Mister Mom!
Dang, you crack me up!!!!🤣🤣👍
“Wat the yes welder did.” No mark wat your ass did 😂
Looks like a copy of Miller’s Maxstar 150 inverter machine.
Yo, Kevin Murray!
Oh yeah I think I looked at one of those a few years ago I liked that it was the size of a sewing machine you could fit in the back of my apartment closet.
Hey Mark, I have a SyncroWave but I bought the 250amp YesWelder on sale a couple of months ago (Memorial Day Sale) for $599 and it kicks ass. I was very pleasantly surprised. I TIG welded some 1/4" 6061 and it worked great. However, keep in mind that it's only rated at something like 200 or 210amps when using SMAW (tried it with some 5P/6010) and it worked just fine.
What is your take on pulsed MIG? Too much welding for an old man (like me)?
I've spent years tig welding thin tubing with a Miller Syncrowave I agree high frequency start and remote amp control are must haves. You have to play with them a bit to get a feel for how stable the arc is too.
Mark as for the crudie welds look at your gas lens or defuser if they are cruded up this will effect gas flow and coverage. Also how clean are the surfaces that are being welded?
Some years ago I picked up a ThermalArc 130 GTS off Craigslist for 230 dollars so I could weld aircraft tubing at home. The 130 was around a 1700 dollar machine 25 years ago.
As of late I'm using the machine running Stick at work because at 20 pounds it more portable than the shops 75 pound TIG/Stick unit.
I have one of the $400 Tooliom multi process welders and it works great. Using it as a stick welder it will burn 3/16 hard facing rods no problem. With some practice it is also extremely controllable as a tig welder. Technology has progressed to the point where you no longer need to spend $2500 to get a good welder. The duty cycle on it is also insane. It says ot has a 70% duty cycle, but I haven't had it cut off on me even once. On 120 it is not the best however it is usable, but on 240 it is wonderful and it has never blown the 30 amp circuit breaker that I have it hooked up to. I am considering getting one of their plasma cutters as well.
Let's go Algo!
Great video.
Just saw a BFG 50 picture in Ukraine!
Would be nice to hear their feedback.
Mark, you're a funny guy.
But looks aren't everything.
Hey mark if i really didn’t want to spend a lot of money could i weld a cetme c receiver with this welder? With the medal being so thin
Hey Mark were you using the same bottle for both welders? Because bad gas can cause issues, especially as the bottle gets low.
Go away I'm bait'in
Mr Mom
So you were stuck welding barrel lugs on? It didn’t warp the barrel inside?
Wow
All these guys with there bfg-50 and me still sitting here dreaming of having one wellbi guess life gives some of us 50's and some of us lemons guess I will go make my lemonade
LGBT inverters
I also paused
I knew this thing sounded like my electric toothbrush!