“It’s not just us” Ravens haven’t had an 8 season playoff win drought. It is just us. Ravens haven’t had a losing streak start at thanksgiving for 5 out of 7 seasons now? It is just us.
Yes yes yes. Watch the teams that throw over the middle like the Chiefs and bills. They just moved their way down the field with these. It’s such an easy throw.
He's 5'9 at best! I saw him face to face at training camp while he was walking along side Jalen Warren whose 5'8 and he looked like he is one inch taller.
@@andref9663 Sam darnold disagrees. Kerry collins disagrees, Kurt Warner disagrees, Jared Goff disagrees and the list goes on. Fields has a future in the nfl that’s a simple fact.
If I remember correctly, last year when you started talking about the draft, you were on Jaden Daniels and we're able to get him in the 4th round. It changed as the process went off, but that showed how perceptions can change
… Build the offense around Russ, with actual weapons, sure-up the o-line, and (trade up to) draft a QB in 2026 regardless. Be smart with existing contracts on defense, and the Pickens elephant.
@@craigjacobs6249Look at Russell passes. They are thrown right to receiver in stride. Russ was playing with bad O line and one good WR who doesn’t run good routes. Russ played 3 games without Pickens. Get 2 or 3 above average receivers and don’t call vanilla plays for entire first half and Russ is above average QB!! Fields is good also.
Adding Warren makes makes the team legitimately hard to match up with. If you come out in 12, do you stay base or go to nickel? If you go to 13, with Pat, Warren, and Mt Washington, thats really tough because all 3 are capable pass catchers and you really have to respect the beef when it comes to running and even QB designed runs. I am not saying move up, but if Warren is there at 21, you take him. He can contribute with designed runs as well making other teams play 11 on 11. He is a pass catcher as well, so although its not WR, like Matt said, hes going to line up in slot a lot.
Hey Dale, appreciate how yinz have a realistic approach to the offseason. How do you think the Steelers address slot CB heading towards next season? Couldn’t help but notice how that area was routinely picked on between Sutton and Beanie. Is the answer on the roster, in the draft, or free agency? Could the Steelers resign Jackson to try and convert him from outside to the slot? Do they go after a safety-CB hybrid type? Thanks in advance- keep up the good work… and stay warm out there!
That is why we have taken slot safety types in some of our mock drafts. I think ideally, they would like to have a bigger body there to help in the run game and blitz. Bishop is fine as a coverage guy, but he's a little undersized in the run game. They also could sign a veteran to fill that role, such as Byron Murphy who can play outside when two corners are on the field and bump inside on passing downs ala. Marlon Humphrey.
I think we should keep beanie at slot he's developed a lot especially since he was undrafted just needs some more time I think we need a real corner 1 Joey Porter jr is a great corner but we need someone else maybe more experienced but also kinda young
I've never seen anyone talk about how good the team was after a bad loss. That car road home would be quite af. CAN SOMEONE GIVE RUSSELL WILSON A PARTICIPATION AWARD !!!???
Right before I watched this video, I did a lone Mock on Pro Football Network and took Warren, Milroe and Skattebo...So, I was like come on guys get Skattebo. Oh well.
Finally a reasonable opinion on Russell Wilson vs Justin Fields. Whatever the team decides, I'm sick of everyone pretending there isn't a viable path forward if you go with Russ and draft a quarterback in 2026. There are pros and cons to going with Fields or Russ.
Nice to see the Ravens go down. all we heard all week was its a bad matchup. But when you have an actual coaching staff, they adjust. They don't go out and get run on for 299 yards. They actually give a crap and refuse to get embarrassed. Buffalo has pride and a staff that will not get embarrassed. Might lose, but not embarrassed. Look at the Commanders. They got better, and better, and better every week. Jayden Daniels got better and better every week. That's cause they have a coaching staff. The Steelers?? Worse and worse and worse and now go into 2025 losers of five in a row and got embarrassed on national TV all five games. All five. Facts hurt.
what do you think about resigning fields, signing daniel jones for a similar running style and drafting one in mid rounds with athleticim to set up offense for future. Easy contracts to get out of. If Wilson, daniels, moore, harris all get decent contracts and you signed a cut davante adams it could even be possible to get comp picks back while not mortgaging the future. GIve arthur smith a full year with fields and take a big swing next year possibly.
Comparing Russ to Crosby is one of the most absurd takes i think I've ever heard. Wilson has been a slightly above average/a pretty good QB his entire career. Sid is top 3 all time in his entire sport. Russ isnt too old to still play slightly above average, but he's certainly not getting us out of purgatory with his aging arm and legs.
Adding Warren as an H back/flex TE would be interesting and is on my wish list. Pair him with Fields and fast RB tandem then adjust your scheme and run a Dolphins style attack. Washington is not a threat to run a route beyond 5 yards and this scheme needs two good pass catching TE's. Putting T Warren, Muth, and Wash on the field at the same time could work if Fields could run it well
The Steelers still will put the same product on the field next season and beyond until they hire an experienced OL, DC, OC, and even HC. Stop hiring Tomlin’s friends or poor choices. Tomlin was gifted Coach Cowher’s team which is why he won a Super Bowl. Our schemes are not creative and opposing teams out scheme and out coach us in December and in the playoffs. 1 and done again if we even make the playoffs. Colberts draft picks didn’t pan out( most of them) and not having a franchise QB hurts. See you next year discussing the same issues. Put this on replay.
I like you guys but age matters more for Russ then Stafford. Also you are going to have to pay for a back up for Russ and at his age he missed quite a few games this year. Just be fair.
Let Najee and Russ go, start Justin Fields, build around him & Warren, sign Davante Adams for dual threat with GP, and draft a stellar Full back, Corner for other side of Porter Jr, and the rest of the draft grab O Linemen.
How is there even a direction to go? Pick the 50 year old qb who gets sacked all the time behind a bad offensive line or pick the young one who is faster then yur running backs hmmm hard decision
Our roster hasn’t been good since prime time Bell and AB , but somehow we keep making the playoffs and why are we complaining about it lack of playoff success……
Boy boy boy..I believe these 2 guys love Russ more than everyone,Lost 5 straight games..Moonball and check down not to mention we saw this 4 years ago..Give Fields the job let him make checks and give him the full offense and tell Tomlin stop living in his fears..
Mathew Stafford is a way better qb then russell wilson haha are we really having this conversation and even if stafford isnt better he has way more weapons
Here is a Fact for you guys. The Last seven Drafts since TJ the 1st round picks only 3 are left and one of which was a trade for Oh and I would add Najee but he knows to jump ship when he see a team is not focusing on the offensive side . The last two years picks in 1st we took chances and they its early but damn looking like what the national media said about them came true. Very Raw and injury prone. Heck go to the second round in last seven and see who are left. The Scouts or Coaching choose your poison. Either we pick duds or we can not coach em. That is your first fix of this team. Pick damn Steelers!!
So, I guess if you play a game on Sunday, then again the next Sunday - then "You played 2 games in 8 days" - as that 's the way everyone says 3 games in 11 - IT WAS 3 GAMES IN 10 DAYS!!!
The Steelers are not anywhere close to a Super Bowl. They are not a QB away. I hate what it means for TJ and Cam, but that is where they are right now. I say bring back Fields and let Russ walk.
@stanrock8015 I understand that. And as respectfully as I can, I disagree. The offense that Arthur Smith wants to run needs specific things that the Steelers don't have right now. He needs a top tier O-Line, which according to former O-Lineman, can take as much as 3 years before they truly learn to play together and are at a point where you can actually have an idea of whether they are a good O-Line or not. We are in year one, and that is not factoring in the fact that 2 of them are rookies. They need serious help at WR. They need a more dynamic RB that is capable of being a homerun hitter type speed. I don't think that they have the roster to compete with the elite QB's without an elite QB of their own. I'm not saying they couldn't win a game against one of them. But to run the gauntlet you will have to run on the way to a Super Bowl- Lamar, Allen, Burrow, Mahomes.. and beat them in consecutive games? You either need an elite QB or a stacked roster that can make up for just having a good QB. And even with an elite QB, you are going to need a pretty damn good roster. Especially when you are running the Arthur Smith offense. It isn't the most creative and deceptive offense. So you need to have players that can be dominant. Obviously, I'm not an NFL coach, scout, GM, etc.. So I could absolutely be wrong. This is just my opinion. They could be closer than I think and you could be right. That is just how I feel about the roster. I could go further with coaching decisions.. and I'm not even talking about firing Tomlin or anything. But regardless, we both want them to win and these conversations are what the off-season are all about😅.. 🫡✌️
I agree Russ should walk! This way you will see he wasn't the issue. Justin should be the starter to please the fan base. However, don't call for Tomlin's head next year.
@SamsP.O.V-hd7rb Just for the record, I've never been in the "Fire Tomlin" camp. I have criticisms for Tomlin, but I'm not part of the Fire Tomlin cult. Some have legitimate reasons they would like to see him go, but there is a group that has been on the fire Tomlin train since he was hired.. I don't get those people. But I think Russ has limitations, on top of his mobility decline with age, that keep him from being the REASON a team wins a Super Bowl. If he has an elite O-Line, at least a 1A and 1B WR's, a great TE, a dynamic RB, and an innovative and creative OC Russ could win a SB. I just don't think he is the force multiplier like he used to be when he was younger in Seattle. I also don't think Fields is that guy either. But if we aren't going to win a Super Bowl, I would rather go with Fields for $10-$15M/yr for 2 years instead of $30M+/yr for 2 or 3 years for Russ. We need to have our focus on whatever it is going to take to get the next franchise QB in the 2026 draft or beyond. The 2025 draft is not the year to get that QB. So, in my opinion, and that is all this is, MY OPINION, 2025 is almost a lost year already🤷♂️ I don't think it matters who we have at QB, Russ or Fields. So I would just go with the younger and cheaper option to hopefully use that money to build up the offense around him. I apologize for the super long reply😅 And if you read it, I truly appreciate you🫡✌️
Fields has already hit his ceiling. Joe Milton is better than Fields. They should actually keep Wilson as bridge quarterback instead of changing qbs 4 or 5 years in a row.
The QB market sucks. Therefore Wilson AND Fields' will get more than they may deserve or warrant. Steelers are going to have to pay up because if they don't the Raiders, Giants, Jets, or Saints will. Again, Colbert screwed this organization in so many ways. Not just the awful awful drafting but not having a succession plan in place for Ben will haunt them for a long time.
Why doesn't tomlin go get aaron Rodgers? He likes 50 year old qbs that won superbowls in there early 20s. Wilson has no fight in him. There's no dog in Russell Wilson. Good qbs get mad and strike back. This guy will lose and talk about how good the team is.
So who's throwing a pile of excuses now? Using data to support "reasons" is still an excuse Dale, nice try though. Talent has been improved at least the last 2 or 3 years but the results of the improvements have stayed the same. Obviously coaching sucks, that's not an excuse, just a fact. Russell I originally thought would be a good signing @ 3 year 110-115 million. His losses were, to me, very telling. He is very limited at throwing between the numbers and his escape ability @ 37 this year will certainly not get any better, just worse. That will be very important considering how long he hangs onto the ball. I'm not in favor of bringing him back unless it's super cheap.
Is it the o line coach that is awful or is it our o line as a whole that's awful. I kno we had some rookies in but brodick looked worse this year then last. Last year we all thought he was a dog
THE ONLY THING WRONG WITH THE STEELERS IS THAT SURTHOR SMITH SUCKS AS A HEAD COACH AND IS LESS OF OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR THAN KLIFF KKNGSBHRY WE NEED A OFFENSIVE MIND O.C THAT SAYS NO TO MIKE U DEAL WITH THE TWAM AND THO ITHER THINGS IM GONNA CALL THE OFFENSIVE PLAYS THATS WHAT I WANT AND TOMLIN TO WORRY ABOUT THE REST GIVE US ACOUPLE GOOD QBs
Who is in charge of drafting players ? Who does that fall on cause they suck. Idk why everyone thinks we are good at drafting other then last year, Every year before that the guy shit the bed. Claypool Bush pickett. Someone find the draft guy and kick him in the sack ... garbage
@@andref9663 Also faced some of the easiest too(giants,jets, browns 2x, bengals as well despite their offense) I don’t think Justin wins against chiefs, eagles, or ravens second time
What has Justin shown you in the beginning of the season or his tenure in Chicago that he will take the Steelers to the Super Bowl? Let alone, Justin isn't winning a playoff game against Burrow, Mahomes or Allen.
@@SamsP.O.V-hd7rbthat he’s an athletic freak who has potential to develop into a good qb. Prolly won’t happen, but the chances of a 36 year old Russ beating those guys are even less. Your best chance to win is to control the clock running the football, and Justin gives them a much better chance to do that with his mobility. Neither of them are gonna out throw those 3 qb’s
Based on comment sections on social media I think Pittsburgh fans need to experience Brownsville to be humbled sometimes…. hurts to say as I root for the black n gold myself
@@austindufourwell that’s absurd. If we wanted to root for a team that sucks we could go root for a team that sucks. What happened to “the standard”? Even “Brownsville” won a playoff game more recently when they smoked the Steelers.
Wilson was atrocious in the first game against the ravens and absolutely did not outplay Lamar Jackson. Unless having less yards, less touchdowns than the other guy and an int in the end zone when all you needed was a field goal to go up 8 is outplaying someone (it isn’t). Outside the 2 dump offs to Wash and Najee, he averaged less than 5 yards per attempt. That’s horrendous And he was mediocre at best in the commies game outside of that throw to Williams. 50% comp percentage less than 200 yards, and a gimme touchdown after a muffed punt. 7 drives in which they gained less than 30 yards.
They scored 28 points against the Commanders. That includes a fumble at the 1 yard line from Warren, and a fake punt that gave the Commanders easy points. You must be a Justin Fields fan if you think Russ was mediocre in that game. Scoring 28 points against a team that was undefeated at home is good quarterback play. Against the Ravens he moved the ball really well, just didn't cash in on the red zone.
@ a fake punt has nothing to do with the qb play, that’s silly. He was mediocre. He had a 50% completion% for less than 200 yards and one of his touchdowns came after a muffed punt at the 15. All to go along with another int. If you think that’s good qb play you don’t know what good qb play is. Outside the throw to Williams he had 160 passing yards in 55 minutes of play. Fields has nothing to do with Wilson’s poor play. Another stupid comment lmao
@@jw8695 HE wasn't given ANY starts until they dealt AWAY D-Hop to Jets. He had superior stats vs Wilty Lettuce & Wilty had D-Hop... Must be considered.
@@jamy8575 well that’s completely false. He played 2 games with Hopkins and was awful in both. Not to mention, Hopkins isn’t a difference maker anymore. Google can help you. But their stats were similar and having similar stats to Levis just shows he sucks. He was awful when he played here and there, a 2-3 game stretch doesn’t change that.
This team is a mess is never going to change this team is light years away from the teams we just watched in the playoffs our beloved Steelers are a joke I'm bleeding people is nothing nothing's going to change for years to come😢😢
Well, we now know it's not just us. Ravens fell apart too. They looked like they could do it this year, until Buffalo game. Made my day. ❤😂
Ravens lost by a 2 point conversion they didn’t get blown out like the Steelers did
“It’s not just us”
Ravens haven’t had an 8 season playoff win drought.
It is just us.
Ravens haven’t had a losing streak start at thanksgiving for 5 out of 7 seasons now?
It is just us.
@@andrewdonaldson752Who cares? The rat birds still lost at the end of the day. Someone needs to give Lamar Chokeson the Heimlich maneuver. 😂😂😂
Mason Rudolph did the same last year as Russell Wilson this year. I didn't see any difference in qb play
If we're signing Fields, Marriota or Tyrod Taylor seem like the best option for back up. Personally, I would get Rudolph back.
Teddy 2 gloves is an option also
Bravo Mr. Holley and Mr. Williamson! Yinz showed Steelers Nation and the rest of the United States how to create salary cap space!
Lifes better now that the Ravens are eliminated from the playoffs 🤭, after winning their Superbowl vs. us. Congratulations Buffalo 😆! #HereWeGo 🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛
Dale and Matt, knowledgeable fans dont have a problem with Russ age it's the fact hes 5'10 cant throw over the middle of the field. Russ is cooked
Yes yes yes. Watch the teams that throw over the middle like the Chiefs and bills. They just moved their way down the field with these. It’s such an easy throw.
@@thefixcleanrepairgirls1765 exactly can't belive these 2 aren't being honest about it.
Being 36 isn’t helpful tho
He's 5'9 at best! I saw him face to face at training camp while he was walking along side Jalen Warren whose 5'8 and he looked like he is one inch taller.
He is 37 and thinks he is 26 running in quicksand
Go with fields qb1 and Rudolph qb2
Listening to you from the Amazon, Manaus, Brazil it is hot and humid here.
Russ is just a bridge. Fields is a bridge with a potential future. That's the difference to me
No such thing as a bridge with a future.
@@andref9663 Sam darnold disagrees. Kerry collins disagrees, Kurt Warner disagrees, Jared Goff disagrees and the list goes on. Fields has a future in the nfl that’s a simple fact.
A bridge get 3/75 like Geno or 3/100 like baker 1 year 10 million isn’t a bridge
If the steelers dont sign fields they are missing the boat..
Why would you want any qb without speed behind that o line?
100% okay with a losing season or 2 if it fixes the playoff success problem.
Why would we build a team around Russell Wilson?
If I remember correctly, last year when you started talking about the draft, you were on Jaden Daniels and we're able to get him in the 4th round. It changed as the process went off, but that showed how perceptions can change
I’m ok with bringing back Wilson
Sign a FA WR
Sign a FA OL
Draft DL, WR, RB, CB..
Wilson was the most sacked Qb in Denver he is washed
love the mock drafts!
Hope they grab Fields and not Wilson
Dale will argue with a tree
You mean whine
@@ChrisM-g4wI’m glad I’m not the only one who notices lol
… Build the offense around Russ, with actual weapons, sure-up the o-line, and (trade up to) draft a QB in 2026 regardless. Be smart with existing contracts on defense, and the Pickens elephant.
Wow...someone with some real talk. Too many ignorant fake fans here.
Russ is done
@@craigjacobs6249Look at Russell passes. They are thrown right to receiver in stride. Russ was playing with bad O line and one good WR who doesn’t run good routes. Russ played 3 games without Pickens. Get 2 or 3 above average receivers and don’t call vanilla plays for entire first half and Russ is above average QB!! Fields is good also.
Finally someone who gets it
You can't build a sustainable offense around Wilson at this point of his career.
Hopefully the Steelers dont consider Wilson at all.
Adding Warren makes makes the team legitimately hard to match up with. If you come out in 12, do you stay base or go to nickel? If you go to 13, with Pat, Warren, and Mt Washington, thats really tough because all 3 are capable pass catchers and you really have to respect the beef when it comes to running and even QB designed runs. I am not saying move up, but if Warren is there at 21, you take him. He can contribute with designed runs as well making other teams play 11 on 11. He is a pass catcher as well, so although its not WR, like Matt said, hes going to line up in slot a lot.
Hey Dale, appreciate how yinz have a realistic approach to the offseason. How do you think the Steelers address slot CB heading towards next season? Couldn’t help but notice how that area was routinely picked on between Sutton and Beanie. Is the answer on the roster, in the draft, or free agency? Could the Steelers resign Jackson to try and convert him from outside to the slot? Do they go after a safety-CB hybrid type? Thanks in advance- keep up the good work… and stay warm out there!
That is why we have taken slot safety types in some of our mock drafts. I think ideally, they would like to have a bigger body there to help in the run game and blitz. Bishop is fine as a coverage guy, but he's a little undersized in the run game. They also could sign a veteran to fill that role, such as Byron Murphy who can play outside when two corners are on the field and bump inside on passing downs ala. Marlon Humphrey.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense for how this team may wanna improve that secondary this offseason. Keep the great draft coverage comin fellas 👍
I think we should keep beanie at slot he's developed a lot especially since he was undrafted just needs some more time I think we need a real corner 1 Joey Porter jr is a great corner but we need someone else maybe more experienced but also kinda young
I've never seen anyone talk about how good the team was after a bad loss. That car road home would be quite af. CAN SOMEONE GIVE RUSSELL WILSON A PARTICIPATION AWARD !!!???
Again not that I am mad but really Dale has made up his mind which is ok just say it.
No, I have not
The Steelers have to spend about 75m in new cash in the offseason.
With our cuts and minimum dead cap we will have around that to spend
@@stanrock8015 Let's hope they spend it wisely.
Right before I watched this video, I did a lone Mock on Pro Football Network and took Warren, Milroe and Skattebo...So, I was like come on guys get Skattebo. Oh well.
Tomlin doesn't need 2 mention the streak- he's happy to have people like u donit for him 🤔
Finally a reasonable opinion on Russell Wilson vs Justin Fields. Whatever the team decides, I'm sick of everyone pretending there isn't a viable path forward if you go with Russ and draft a quarterback in 2026. There are pros and cons to going with Fields or Russ.
No path with RW his limitations and age got worse each start
Nice to see the Ravens go down. all we heard all week was its a bad matchup. But when you have an actual coaching staff, they adjust. They don't go out and get run on for 299 yards. They actually give a crap and refuse to get embarrassed. Buffalo has pride and a staff that will not get embarrassed. Might lose, but not embarrassed. Look at the Commanders. They got better, and better, and better every week. Jayden Daniels got better and better every week. That's cause they have a coaching staff. The Steelers?? Worse and worse and worse and now go into 2025 losers of five in a row and got embarrassed on national TV all five games. All five. Facts hurt.
what do you think about resigning fields, signing daniel jones for a similar running style and drafting one in mid rounds with athleticim to set up offense for future. Easy contracts to get out of. If Wilson, daniels, moore, harris all get decent contracts and you signed a cut davante adams it could even be possible to get comp picks back while not mortgaging the future. GIve arthur smith a full year with fields and take a big swing next year possibly.
Jones isn’t leaving Minnesota
@@kevinward6141 i could see that but what if they keep darnold and mccarthy.
@@adamkordich1232 they aren’t keeping Sam. Koc already said as much.
If we actually get Warren and Skattebo in this draft I would be ecstatic!
People hate Najee but want Bo that crazy
Comparing Russ to Crosby is one of the most absurd takes i think I've ever heard. Wilson has been a slightly above average/a pretty good QB his entire career. Sid is top 3 all time in his entire sport. Russ isnt too old to still play slightly above average, but he's certainly not getting us out of purgatory with his aging arm and legs.
Adding Warren as an H back/flex TE would be interesting and is on my wish list. Pair him with Fields and fast RB tandem then adjust your scheme and run a Dolphins style attack. Washington is not a threat to run a route beyond 5 yards and this scheme needs two good pass catching TE's. Putting T Warren, Muth, and Wash on the field at the same time could work if Fields could run it well
The Steelers still will put the same product on the field next season and beyond until they hire an experienced OL, DC, OC, and even HC. Stop hiring Tomlin’s friends or poor choices. Tomlin was gifted Coach Cowher’s team which is why he won a Super Bowl. Our schemes are not creative and opposing teams out scheme and out coach us in December and in the playoffs. 1 and done again if we even make the playoffs. Colberts draft picks didn’t pan out( most of them) and not having a franchise QB hurts.
See you next year discussing the same issues. Put this on replay.
I like you guys but age matters more for Russ then Stafford. Also you are going to have to pay for a back up for Russ and at his age he missed quite a few games this year. Just be fair.
Build around Fields at QB1
Both detroit coordinators are going to be really good coaches.That one lost, albeit a big one, will not decide their future.
Dale just wants to argue every opposing opinion
Let Najee and Russ go, start Justin Fields, build around him & Warren, sign Davante Adams for dual threat with GP, and draft a stellar Full back, Corner for other side of Porter Jr, and the rest of the draft grab O Linemen.
How many years are we away from being a contender ? Not next year maybe year after ?
How is there even a direction to go? Pick the 50 year old qb who gets sacked all the time behind a bad offensive line or pick the young one who is faster then yur running backs hmmm hard decision
Our roster hasn’t been good since prime time Bell and AB , but somehow we keep making the playoffs and why are we complaining about it lack of playoff success……
Boy boy boy..I believe these 2 guys love Russ more than everyone,Lost 5 straight games..Moonball and check down not to mention we saw this 4 years ago..Give Fields the job let him make checks and give him the full offense and tell Tomlin stop living in his fears..
Mathew Stafford is a way better qb then russell wilson haha are we really having this conversation and even if stafford isnt better he has way more weapons
Here is a Fact for you guys. The Last seven Drafts since TJ the 1st round picks only 3 are left and one of which was a trade for Oh and I would add Najee but he knows to jump ship when he see a team is not focusing on the offensive side . The last two years picks in 1st we took chances and they its early but damn looking like what the national media said about them came true. Very Raw and injury prone. Heck go to the second round in last seven and see who are left. The Scouts or Coaching choose your poison. Either we pick duds or we can not coach em. That is your first fix of this team. Pick damn Steelers!!
Really hoping Buffalo gets to the SuperBowl and wins it. It would be well deserved.
So, I guess if you play a game on Sunday, then again the next Sunday - then "You played 2 games in 8 days" - as that 's the way everyone says 3 games in 11 - IT WAS 3 GAMES IN 10 DAYS!!!
I think that if yur down by 2 or more tds, yu should start going for it every 4th down unless yu have no confidence in yur offense like us.
How about trading the Rams for Stafford & Kupp?
Why would Watt be getting a pay raise at this point?
The Steelers are not anywhere close to a Super Bowl. They are not a QB away. I hate what it means for TJ and Cam, but that is where they are right now. I say bring back Fields and let Russ walk.
We did play 3 of 4 finalist teams in 11 days…may not be as far away as ya think
@stanrock8015 I understand that. And as respectfully as I can, I disagree. The offense that Arthur Smith wants to run needs specific things that the Steelers don't have right now. He needs a top tier O-Line, which according to former O-Lineman, can take as much as 3 years before they truly learn to play together and are at a point where you can actually have an idea of whether they are a good O-Line or not. We are in year one, and that is not factoring in the fact that 2 of them are rookies. They need serious help at WR. They need a more dynamic RB that is capable of being a homerun hitter type speed. I don't think that they have the roster to compete with the elite QB's without an elite QB of their own. I'm not saying they couldn't win a game against one of them. But to run the gauntlet you will have to run on the way to a Super Bowl- Lamar, Allen, Burrow, Mahomes.. and beat them in consecutive games? You either need an elite QB or a stacked roster that can make up for just having a good QB. And even with an elite QB, you are going to need a pretty damn good roster. Especially when you are running the Arthur Smith offense. It isn't the most creative and deceptive offense. So you need to have players that can be dominant. Obviously, I'm not an NFL coach, scout, GM, etc.. So I could absolutely be wrong. This is just my opinion. They could be closer than I think and you could be right. That is just how I feel about the roster. I could go further with coaching decisions.. and I'm not even talking about firing Tomlin or anything. But regardless, we both want them to win and these conversations are what the off-season are all about😅.. 🫡✌️
I agree Russ should walk! This way you will see he wasn't the issue. Justin should be the starter to please the fan base. However, don't call for Tomlin's head next year.
@SamsP.O.V-hd7rb Just for the record, I've never been in the "Fire Tomlin" camp. I have criticisms for Tomlin, but I'm not part of the Fire Tomlin cult. Some have legitimate reasons they would like to see him go, but there is a group that has been on the fire Tomlin train since he was hired.. I don't get those people. But I think Russ has limitations, on top of his mobility decline with age, that keep him from being the REASON a team wins a Super Bowl. If he has an elite O-Line, at least a 1A and 1B WR's, a great TE, a dynamic RB, and an innovative and creative OC Russ could win a SB. I just don't think he is the force multiplier like he used to be when he was younger in Seattle. I also don't think Fields is that guy either. But if we aren't going to win a Super Bowl, I would rather go with Fields for $10-$15M/yr for 2 years instead of $30M+/yr for 2 or 3 years for Russ. We need to have our focus on whatever it is going to take to get the next franchise QB in the 2026 draft or beyond. The 2025 draft is not the year to get that QB. So, in my opinion, and that is all this is, MY OPINION, 2025 is almost a lost year already🤷♂️ I don't think it matters who we have at QB, Russ or Fields. So I would just go with the younger and cheaper option to hopefully use that money to build up the offense around him. I apologize for the super long reply😅 And if you read it, I truly appreciate you🫡✌️
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I think Tomlin was right to go with Russ but him having 1 WR and 1 TE was a joke, wasted Russ's year
How - is it ?look at baker Mayfields he got better so that means fields can get better too..
Baker was good in Cleveland Fields is a solid backup like Mitch but our best option
Fields has already hit his ceiling. Joe Milton is better than Fields. They should actually keep Wilson as bridge quarterback instead of changing qbs 4 or 5 years in a row.
Thank god Dale isnt a GM and Matt was there. Even contemplating a RB in FIRST ROUND is a fireable offense. Haven’t you learned anything?
If it’s Barkley or Robinson sure
Why would you low ball fields?
He needs the same money that bakery got or better?
If hes QB 1
Because fields isn’t a starter he is like Minshew in Vegas who made 25 million over 2
AJ Brown dropped the ball so that’s on Hurts?
How come the steelers dont qb sneak using TE #80 ?
Thats coaching
Washington has bad knees
The QB market sucks. Therefore Wilson AND Fields' will get more than they may deserve or warrant. Steelers are going to have to pay up because if they don't the Raiders, Giants, Jets, or Saints will. Again, Colbert screwed this organization in so many ways. Not just the awful awful drafting but not having a succession plan in place for Ben will haunt them for a long time.
Saints are stuck with Carr. The giants probably draft a qb and stick with locke
And quit saying you don’t favor Russ go back and listen to what you have to say.
Why doesn't tomlin go get aaron Rodgers? He likes 50 year old qbs that won superbowls in there early 20s. Wilson has no fight in him. There's no dog in Russell Wilson. Good qbs get mad and strike back. This guy will lose and talk about how good the team is.
It’s fine ravens out the playoffs
They can go 1-16, i would not b upset bc they would b able 2 do the one thing they need 2 do 2 win- draft a qb #1
Because drafting #1 always works out? Top ten draft picks rarely even work out.
So who's throwing a pile of excuses now? Using data to support "reasons" is still an excuse Dale, nice try though. Talent has been improved at least the last 2 or 3 years but the results of the improvements have stayed the same. Obviously coaching sucks, that's not an excuse, just a fact.
Russell I originally thought would be a good signing @ 3 year 110-115 million. His losses were, to me, very telling. He is very limited at throwing between the numbers and his escape ability @ 37 this year will certainly not get any better, just worse. That will be very important considering how long he hangs onto the ball. I'm not in favor of bringing him back unless it's super cheap.
Is it the o line coach that is awful or is it our o line as a whole that's awful. I kno we had some rookies in but brodick looked worse this year then last. Last year we all thought he was a dog
Hurst is a winner thats all that count...
Lamar choked he caused his team and hes a better qb than josh...
THE ONLY THING WRONG WITH THE STEELERS IS THAT SURTHOR SMITH SUCKS AS A HEAD COACH AND IS LESS OF OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR THAN KLIFF KKNGSBHRY WE NEED A OFFENSIVE MIND O.C THAT SAYS NO TO MIKE U DEAL WITH THE TWAM AND THO ITHER THINGS IM GONNA CALL THE OFFENSIVE PLAYS THATS WHAT I WANT AND TOMLIN TO WORRY ABOUT THE REST GIVE US ACOUPLE GOOD QBs
Who is in charge of drafting players ? Who does that fall on cause they suck. Idk why everyone thinks we are good at drafting other then last year, Every year before that the guy shit the bed. Claypool Bush pickett. Someone find the draft guy and kick him in the sack ... garbage
Saying fields could go 6-10 after he started 4-2 is diabolical
BS. Go back to Chicago JF soy boys!
Justin was 10th in total touchdowns out of 32 QBs with 10 touchdowns in 6 games without having 2 good receivers to pass to.
Russ went 6-1. May as well say that losing 5 games in a row is diabolical. Truth is Russ faced the toughest part of the schedule.
@@andref9663 Also faced some of the easiest too(giants,jets, browns 2x, bengals as well despite their offense) I don’t think Justin wins against chiefs, eagles, or ravens second time
But he totally could. Or he could be great. His history shows he’s a total wildcard.
Of course we bring back JF and change offense from Russ style. Hurts shouldn’t be a far stretch. Lamar or Jayden is def possible.
Fun episode today…
What has Justin shown you in the beginning of the season or his tenure in Chicago that he will take the Steelers to the Super Bowl? Let alone, Justin isn't winning a playoff game against Burrow, Mahomes or Allen.
@@SamsP.O.V-hd7rbthat he’s an athletic freak who has potential to develop into a good qb. Prolly won’t happen, but the chances of a 36 year old Russ beating those guys are even less. Your best chance to win is to control the clock running the football, and Justin gives them a much better chance to do that with his mobility. Neither of them are gonna out throw those 3 qb’s
@@SamsP.O.V-hd7rbon that note. Show me one quarterback able to do that that’s available? Zero.
Justin at least has flashes of Lamar.
Least common denominator talk-
Congrats...
Talking ways to hit Top #10 drafting... Fastest train to Brownsville & you should KNOW it.
And "fans" deserve "Brownsville" if allowing this type of talk
Based on comment sections on social media I think Pittsburgh fans need to experience Brownsville to be humbled sometimes…. hurts to say as I root for the black n gold myself
@@austindufourwell that’s absurd. If we wanted to root for a team that sucks we could go root for a team that sucks. What happened to “the standard”?
Even “Brownsville” won a playoff game more recently when they smoked the Steelers.
@@austindufourcause losing in spectacular fashion in the playoffs for 8 years isn’t humbling enough.
@@AIRFORCENONE it’s not, some teams have it way worse and that’s the point
Wilson was atrocious in the first game against the ravens and absolutely did not outplay Lamar Jackson. Unless having less yards, less touchdowns than the other guy and an int in the end zone when all you needed was a field goal to go up 8 is outplaying someone (it isn’t). Outside the 2 dump offs to Wash and Najee, he averaged less than 5 yards per attempt. That’s horrendous
And he was mediocre at best in the commies game outside of that throw to Williams. 50% comp percentage less than 200 yards, and a gimme touchdown after a muffed punt. 7 drives in which they gained less than 30 yards.
They scored 28 points against the Commanders. That includes a fumble at the 1 yard line from Warren, and a fake punt that gave the Commanders easy points. You must be a Justin Fields fan if you think Russ was mediocre in that game. Scoring 28 points against a team that was undefeated at home is good quarterback play. Against the Ravens he moved the ball really well, just didn't cash in on the red zone.
@ a fake punt has nothing to do with the qb play, that’s silly. He was mediocre. He had a 50% completion% for less than 200 yards and one of his touchdowns came after a muffed punt at the 15. All to go along with another int. If you think that’s good qb play you don’t know what good qb play is. Outside the throw to Williams he had 160 passing yards in 55 minutes of play. Fields has nothing to do with Wilson’s poor play. Another stupid comment lmao
It’s comical he said Russ outplayed Lamar. Fact is, neither played well.
@ absolutely!
Anyone advocating Sam Darnold-- He is a Mason Rudolph that WAS ALLOWED A full season...
Rudolph is IMO superior.
Rudolph was awful this year. If he didn’t suck when he played maybe teams would want to play him more lol
@@jw8695 HE wasn't given ANY starts until they dealt AWAY D-Hop to Jets. He had superior stats vs Wilty Lettuce & Wilty had D-Hop... Must be considered.
@@jamy8575 well that’s completely false. He played 2 games with Hopkins and was awful in both. Not to mention, Hopkins isn’t a difference maker anymore. Google can help you. But their stats were similar and having similar stats to Levis just shows he sucks. He was awful when he played here and there, a 2-3 game stretch doesn’t change that.
@@jw8695 so 26?
@@jamy8575 not sure what that means in relation to my tweet. Seems dumb but I’ll bite. 26 what?
Call me crazy but how about Tyler Heinieke as QB2 behind Fields? Obviously not as fast but he’s an athlete and fits our culture.
Yea u crazy as hell!!
“Culture”
What culture..?
Too bad the nfl selected the chiefs and bills this year. Wish we were part of the script
This team is a mess is never going to change this team is light years away from the teams we just watched in the playoffs our beloved Steelers are a joke I'm bleeding people is nothing nothing's going to change for years to come😢😢