Koxinga - Chinese Pirate Who Fought European Colonization

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  • Kings and Generals' historical animated documentary series on the history of China continues with a video on Koxinga. This admiral became the pirate king of China and fought the Dutch Empire and the Qing dynasty. The episode covers the battles of Lialuo Bay and Fort Zeelandia.
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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    Let's form our own navy: www.patreon.com/kingsandgenerals

    • @anastasiaa9255
      @anastasiaa9255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey 👋

    • @mdmiloy5897
      @mdmiloy5897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you know kings and genarals arabians were vassals of ottomans. please add arabian paninsula in ottoman map please. Replay soon kings and genarals

    • @mdmiloy5897
      @mdmiloy5897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you agre with me kings and genarals. pkease said your artist please to add arabian paninsula in ottoman map please.

    • @rmz9309
      @rmz9309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, I've been watching you since the King and Generals Turkey War of Independence in 2017 you could do the serial please

    • @mdmiloy5897
      @mdmiloy5897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kings and genatals when you make last epesode of 30 years war and please add full OTTOMAN map in the last epesode of 30 years war and add full arabian paninsula in ottoman map pkease. please repaly my comment !

  • @murderouskitten2577
    @murderouskitten2577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1119

    So a half Japanese half Chinese son of a pirate turned Admiral leads a force of Samurai , Chinese soldiers and Afrikan Gunner's - and they say fiction is not grounded in real life.

    • @terryhsiao1745
      @terryhsiao1745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Not many Japanese were left by that time

    • @ddwkc
      @ddwkc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      Don't forget the random English samurai who just show up in the history for a little while! I guess modern world is too contaminated with nationalism and identity politics, but the past was a clusterfuck of all sorta people.

    • @sihhaoo
      @sihhaoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Taiwan in a nutshell.

    • @murderouskitten2577
      @murderouskitten2577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @Tango Zulu especially the german 😂

    • @murderouskitten2577
      @murderouskitten2577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @my name is my name i would watch that if amazon would make it.

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1009

    Destroy the Ming fleet, and them become the Ming main naval force.
    STONKS

    • @hellothere4858
      @hellothere4858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      That seems to be a pattern for chinese pirates

    • @FD_Stalker
      @FD_Stalker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      @@hellothere4858 No, it seems to be a pattern of entire Chinese history -- even who tired to destroy or conquer China, all became China at the end...

    • @TheZachary86
      @TheZachary86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      FD_Stalker
      Everyone will be assimilated

    • @asdfghjkl92213
      @asdfghjkl92213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      FD_Stalker thus this is the fate of the USA as well

    • @ReviveHF
      @ReviveHF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same thing goes to the Roman Empire even before 3rd century crisis.

  • @chrisw7511119
    @chrisw7511119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    Can you believe that he is a mix of almost everything: half Chinese, half Japanese, descendants of pirate and samurai (from her mother's side), a scholar trained in Confucius doctrine, a great general and admiral, fierce pirate, a prince and a self-made king, even being a madmen to some degree.
    In short, he is such an intriguing person!

    • @lkcdarzadix6216
      @lkcdarzadix6216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A true mad man

    • @Thecognoscenti_1
      @Thecognoscenti_1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Don't forget that his realm was run like a business and specialised in trade.

    • @azzurracupini6441
      @azzurracupini6441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Don't forget He had also a white dutch concubine too😉💖!!!!

    • @undertheglassmoon2239
      @undertheglassmoon2239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And They said he is a moody man..

    • @DJ-qr6dl
      @DJ-qr6dl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@azzurracupini6441 you think that's funny? You clearly don't understand how messed up that was.

  • @Zantides
    @Zantides 3 ปีที่แล้ว +481

    "Really fun episode!", tell that to the guys on bottom of the sea

    • @mdmiloy5897
      @mdmiloy5897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please add full ottoman map in last epesode of 30 years war and add full arabian paninsula in ottoman map and full arabian paninsula was vassals of ottomans and said that all artist please agre with me and do that and replay soon

    • @mdmiloy5897
      @mdmiloy5897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Gluten Orm 3 nd era

    • @mdmiloy5897
      @mdmiloy5897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Gluten Orm 3 world war will came soon!

    • @blindtherapper2470
      @blindtherapper2470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @GoodGirlKate the joke or the bottom?

    • @ef3001
      @ef3001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gluten Orm "Donald Trump will probably end up in a Gulag".
      Don't get our hopes up for nothing...

  • @user-kt1lh5sz1i
    @user-kt1lh5sz1i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    All hail Kings and Generals, henceforth renamed Kings and Admirals

  • @DragonballBlack
    @DragonballBlack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +274

    The Chinese, African and Samurai Warriors TOGETHER is pretty cool. This would be an awesome movie.

    • @sparda11
      @sparda11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Samurai were definitely not fighting as pirates, although the Japanese pirates (though they were few in actuality within the wokou) did possess prowess in swordsmanship and spear usage, they were definitely not samurai.

    • @excessiveone9952
      @excessiveone9952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@sparda11 probably former Samurai or Ronin who lost their masters. Although stealing and killing is allowed

    • @ricanredru4760
      @ricanredru4760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Stories like this is what scares the bejesus out of white nationalist in the USA or the West

    • @MarkSeiler
      @MarkSeiler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ricanredru4760 why would you say that? You do realize that the USA does on the books business with some of the most morally questionable people on the planet... let alone their off the books deals with so called enemies of the state. Why does race have to enter the equation? Sounds like someone bought into the nonsensical propaganda...

    • @ricanredru4760
      @ricanredru4760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@MarkSeiler you're missing the point. There's people that will deliberately lie about their own countries history just to never empower certain people or communities.

  • @Jasta85
    @Jasta85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +568

    Koxinga - "Hey Dutch, this other fort surrendered so we executed all the men and enslaved the women. Do you want to surrender too?"
    Dutch - "No"
    Koxinga - *surprised pikachu face*

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ok, your funny, using enslaved people as a joke... 😂🤣

    • @DogFoxHybrid
      @DogFoxHybrid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Dutch should have drawn and quartered him for that kind of treachery.

    • @Emilechen
      @Emilechen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@axolotl-guy9801 of course, Koxinga is not a pirate, only his father is,
      Koxinga is a mandarin and general, he will not mistreat women like that,

    • @zetos4440
      @zetos4440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@axolotl-guy9801 lol butthurt

    • @axolotl-guy9801
      @axolotl-guy9801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Emilechen Well I mean, It's was not any western countrie his or her bisnusses at all, the Dutch had now right. But I don't like this persons humour.

  • @dominicperez3777
    @dominicperez3777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Koxinga also raided several towns in the Philippines and threatened to invade Manila if the Spanish didn't pay tribute to him. The situation was so bad for the Spanish that they had to end their plan to colonize Mindanao and give up their colonies at the Maluku Islands. However this invasion never took place due to Koxinga's death.

    • @rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913
      @rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Spain didnt left The Philippines, nor payed tribute to nobody

    • @XuerLi
      @XuerLi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Another reason was that Koxinga received news that there were some massacres happened there by the Spanish colonists against migrant Chinese population.

    • @rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913
      @rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@XuerLi Spain didnt have Colonies. All those territories, from Naples to Flandes, from Chile to the Philippines they were Spain and thier habitants were just citicens of Spain.

    • @earlibre0420
      @earlibre0420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 I live here in the Philippines and you, my friend, don't know what you are saying.

    • @user-qv5cs4lc9t
      @user-qv5cs4lc9t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I wonder what had the Philippines look like now if he did invade and succeed, I mean majority will be Buddhist, a new Ming Dynasty will be established there and everyone will be Chinese for sure.
      Maybe it will be Taiwan but stronger and bigger?

  • @hyltoniali257
    @hyltoniali257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    The Dutch calling of KoxinGa is originated from GuoXingYe in Chinese meaning: "the man who was granted with the royal surname of the Ming court, Zhu/ Chu

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      its actually "Kok-sèng-iâ" in Hokkien POJ. that was the predominant spoken language during that era there

    • @brainwashington1332
      @brainwashington1332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@xXxSkyViperxXx just to point out that Hokkien is the dialect spoken in Fujian province, Hokkien (福建) is the pronunciation of Fujian (福建) in the Fujian dialect.

    • @xXxSkyViperxXx
      @xXxSkyViperxXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@brainwashington1332 hokkien is a chinese language of the southern Min family. it is the most famous among the other Min languages because of its reach overseas, hence it is the one that naturally got its name from the name of the entire province. sometimes it is also called as Fukien or Fookien or sometimes as Minnan. the naming dispute is hard to resolve because using Minnan is also not specific enough. Minnan or Southern Min also includes Teochew which is also a different unintelligible sister language located in the outskirts of Fujian in Guangdong province. Hainanese is also included in the same family branch but located far away in Hainan island near Vietnam and Guangdong province. chinese languages are mostly not intelligible with each other and in themselves have dialects of their own. the Taiwanese dialect of Hokkien, for example is only a dialect compared to dialects of Hokkien in mainland China and in multiple countries in Southeast Asia.

    • @Ryanjelly22
      @Ryanjelly22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xXxSkyViperxXx This should be one of the top comments.

    • @brainwashington1332
      @brainwashington1332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@xXxSkyViperxXx I speak Hokkien actually, my step mom is Teochew and it is very similar to Hokkien (Teochew is the Cao Zhou Hua pronunciation of Cao Zhou). As for Fukien or Fookien, they are the Cantonese (Guang Dong Hua) pronunciation of Hokkien. Regardless in which dialect it is spoken, 福建 (Fujian) means the same thing and is written the same, 福 means prosperous and 建 means health. Yes, they all belong to the Minnan family of dialects.
      Cantonese belongs to the Yue group of dialects which I also speak.

  • @ninjamonkey2251
    @ninjamonkey2251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    "I have an idea. Let's betray our word and convince the enemy they can't trust us. Then they'll surrender for sure!" -70% of commanders.

  • @jevinliu4658
    @jevinliu4658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Koxinga: Surrender and I'll leave you unharmed
    Fort 1: *Surrenders*
    Koxinga: *Sacks Fort 1*
    Fort 2: *Does not surrender*
    Koxinga: *Surprised Pikachu face*

  • @markhenley3097
    @markhenley3097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    In Europa Universalis IV you get an event mentioning him as a European country, when you control land in the East Indies.

    • @daisyftw
      @daisyftw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Unbelievable we get taught 0 about these stories in history class. EU IV does a much better job. I wasnt aware of Murat Reis until I played EU IV.

    • @louiscasteran6298
      @louiscasteran6298 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And also the forming event of the kingdom of tungning in taiwan, once the ming have mingxploded

    • @Argacyan
      @Argacyan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      # Eu4 gang

    • @lucimicle5657
      @lucimicle5657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Argacyan We are everywhere there is history!

    • @midshipman8654
      @midshipman8654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      poguemahone tbf there are a lot of secoundary events like this in history that are interesting, but not necessarily vital to know. if we learned about each of the events like this one, history classes would move through 1 year of history every irl school year!

  • @huyung8478
    @huyung8478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The signature "Zheng" on the peace treaty kept in The Hague Museum in the Netherlands. This is his official name. Interestingly, because the Spanish slaughtered Chinese businessmen in Manila, he also planned to attack Manila. However, his life had been harassed by tropical diseases and he died soon after.

    • @u-tone1997
      @u-tone1997 ปีที่แล้ว

      Human generals: I'm unstoppable
      Virus, germs and parasites: Hold my beer

  • @josephdee4649
    @josephdee4649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +320

    "Taiwan was always meant to be a temporary base from where he could strike back to retake the mainland" Sound just like the KMT a few decades ago looool
    History repeating itself 300 year later.........

    • @anantakandaka5096
      @anantakandaka5096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      The ROC is much like the Ming Dynasty - a native regime. However, the Qing Dynasty brought "foreign people" (the Manchus) into China, while the PRC brought "foreign idea" (communism) into China.
      And to your surprise, you might find it interesting that Emperor Pu Yi, the last Qing Emperor and his royal house became strong supporters of communism.

    • @whitelen7466
      @whitelen7466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@anantakandaka5096 Republicanism and Liberal democracy is also a foreign idea lmao.

    • @atoll8423
      @atoll8423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@anantakandaka5096 Didn't Pu Yi join fascist powers to become the head of Manchukuo puppet state? Even converting to worship Amaterasu?

    • @lishiping84
      @lishiping84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      反攻大陆!
      Well probably it's all squares to you but it is the motto for KMT AND means retake the mainland,

    • @yourrain2587
      @yourrain2587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@anantakandaka5096 ??? What??? How do you write that sentence with a straight face? You're claiming because Communism was a foreign idea, PROC is illegitimate but Republic of China was founded on the another foreign ideology of Democratic republicanism???? This is illogical!

  • @apedemak23
    @apedemak23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Thanks for this video!
    Dutch Formosa is never really covered by history books in the Netherlands, as the focus of colonial history is more on Indonesia, Suriname and the Antilles.
    I knew a bit about some pirate king capturing it from the Dutch and handing it over to the Chinese empire, but not much more than that.
    This video has been very revealing.

    • @williamyao5317
      @williamyao5317 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      assume it is because there are more ppl from those nations who are currently living in Holland

  • @bluemoondiadochi
    @bluemoondiadochi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    As a history buff, it's not every day i see something interesting that i have absolutely no idea about! Great job, it was an amazing video!

  • @Anwoo
    @Anwoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    This was never heard informations about Koxinga during the transition from Ming to Qing dynasty. good content!

    • @user-nc5yc9es6j
      @user-nc5yc9es6j 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hi i'm your subscriber.
      didn't expect to see your comment here.

    • @shappi99
      @shappi99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Though it’s pretty well known in the Chinese speaking world, of course 😛

    • @sihhaoo
      @sihhaoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he's basically the sole reason how, in the first place, Taiwan was connected with China, and Japan lol...
      the other funny rumors to know is, his lieutenant Chen is allegedly one of the founders of Tiandihui (nowadays Triad), as a continuation of resisting Manchurian ruling over Han chinese after the forces of Koxinga was properly defeated by Qing.

  • @frankincensemerchant1284
    @frankincensemerchant1284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    On a side note you guys should do a video on the Axum-Himyarite War(Total War has units for both btw lol).

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      It is perpetually on the list, need to get to it. :-)

    • @abthedragon4921
      @abthedragon4921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KingsandGenerals cool

    • @awa359
      @awa359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indeed and before it Shiba Empire

    • @frankincensemerchant1284
      @frankincensemerchant1284 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yasinibrahim I suggested that a while back I think they will do it as part of their Ottoman series(Ottomans where involved after all). The Axum-Himyarite War is more plausible at the moment due to the conflict featuring in Total War something Kings and Generals use often in their videos.

    • @juliuscaesar8925
      @juliuscaesar8925 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know I would love to see that

  • @JahRandom
    @JahRandom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By far my favorite channel on all of TH-cam...keep it up Kings and Generals!!!

  • @jmd45678
    @jmd45678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Damn I felt like I was watching a miniseries. This was a great video

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeh, a ton of history which I'd never known, not even remotely. I had no idea the Dutch were on Taiwan or even fought with/against Chinese types at all.

  • @yewsoonfatt
    @yewsoonfatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Koxinga was not his name. His name is Zheng Cheng Gong. Kongxinga means "the lord with honor name given by emperor"

    • @yoga5631
      @yoga5631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Couldn't blame them iirc back then chinese people have about 3-5 names on them

    • @yewsoonfatt
      @yewsoonfatt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Peizxcv this is a history channel, then it should reveal the full story so that people understand thoroughly, else those ppl from other region might get confused with the names of one same character. and we are not the believer of his temple or the sailors from the same era of his, so it is abundance to follow that way. Cheng Ho has been honored as San Bao Tan Jian as well, but we still call him Cheng Ho. and if you are right, we should not be calling the Chinese emperor's name like Qian Long or Yong Zheng, because that is just not respectful to the emperor. but why do we still call them that way? because your theory just doesnt work today. We are learning history here not worshipping some goddess or hero

    • @ElCidLee
      @ElCidLee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His name would spell in Hokkien as Tenn sing kong, or Tenn sim better.

    • @zeflute4586
      @zeflute4586 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Koxinga (Hokkia) = Guo Xing Ye (Mandarin) =国姓爷/國姓爺

    • @DongFengEx
      @DongFengEx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      你说的是对的。郑成功,本名郑森。赐姓朱,赐名成功,封延平君王,领招讨大将军。普通人不能乱叫他的新名字(朱成功),所以称呼为国姓爷。他的长官或同僚可以叫他新名(成功),但不会带上新姓(朱),一般称呼他郑成功,或延平郡王

  • @anaraschulz9814
    @anaraschulz9814 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Qing Dynasty : *appears*
    The VOC : “This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!”

  • @lordkiwi355
    @lordkiwi355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy Cow this was an amazing story! how have I never heard this before?! Truly amazing work K&G!

  • @szzzx8935
    @szzzx8935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Koxinga= 国姓爷, literally means "The Lord with Emperor's Family Name". His real name is Zheng Cheng Gong, Cheng Gong = succeed or achieve honor.
    Also, today there is one district in Xia Men (a city in Fujian province) called "Si Ming", which means missing or thinking the Ming :(

    • @josephtangtaipei
      @josephtangtaipei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "外國人則稱他為國姓爺(Koxinga)" 台灣這邊歷史教科書上寫的---三民出版社 普通高中歷史第一冊

    • @ttytty6940
      @ttytty6940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or you can direct translate his name into Success Zheng 😂😂his father name him Success 😂😂😂

    • @szzzx8935
      @szzzx8935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephtangtaipei 不是因为国姓+爷听起来吊么

    • @Redeemed
      @Redeemed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      再说了,人家已经赐国姓了,就不应该叫 郑成功,而应该是朱成功。

    • @barkingamer4225
      @barkingamer4225 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Redeemed that's not how it works

  • @zehengzhang151
    @zehengzhang151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great Video! I'm from Xiamen, which used to be the base of Koxinga for a decade or two before he settled in Taiwan. There is actually a big statue of him in Xiamen. Also the primary school I went to was built next to Yanwu Pond, which used to be the pond Koxinga trained his naval force. Anyway, great video! Koxinga is a man with some interesting life story.

  • @rudamachoo
    @rudamachoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    please, more podcasts in the webpage. they're amazing! :D
    as always, thank you for all your hard work. it's super appreciated

  • @user-fs9vp9io1h
    @user-fs9vp9io1h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    To clarify, a rebel leader Li Zicheng captured Beijing, which forced the emperor to commit suicide. The northern army of Ming who was fighting against the Manchus wanted to join the rebels. They were rejected. Their family received persecution by the rebels, which forced them to join the Qing. Li Zicheng was defeated.

  • @lukezuzga6460
    @lukezuzga6460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant work Fellas! Thx.

  • @peasantmob1712
    @peasantmob1712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The account of the battle against Coyett/Hollanders came mostly from the accounts of Coyett but I should mention there are other sourcing which described things differently.
    For example, in the first naval engagement described in 16:29, the Portuguese witness of the battle said that the Dutch lost not because of a lucky shot which caused their ship to explode, but because of Chinese fireships.
    Likewise for the engagement at the beach in 16:41, the Chinese account only said that they used 1000 men to directly participate in the battle, not 4000 as claimed by Coyett. The same account also blamed the Dutch defeat to Coyett, whereas Coyett's account blamed it on Captain Pedel.

    • @KoenBoyful
      @KoenBoyful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You always have 2 stories in history. And historians take all the cronicles and see which parts of all the cronicles makes sense and by that make a story on how it PROBABLY went. In this video I agree with everything. It is not Coyett who said it this way but also tens of eye witness Dutchmen who had it written in their diary. Some lie here in the Dutch Museum.

    • @peasantmob1712
      @peasantmob1712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@KoenBoyful As far as I know the only Dutch contemporary account is from Coyett. The other sources I've read to cross-compare accounts comes from a Chinese writer who interviewed with Koxinga's generals (Jiang Ri Sheng), a Chinese eye-witness of the expedition (Ying Yang), a Portuguese eye-witness who tagged along with Koxinga during the expedition (Philip Meij), and from a B&R anonymous Spanish account. From what I've seen the video only relies on Coyett's account, and this is questionable because the purpose of Coyett's account, written by Coyett, was to exonerate Coyett for the loss of Formosa. If you know these other eye-witness accounts from the Dutchmen then please do share their names so I can look up their accounts.

    • @user-ni9mj1km5j
      @user-ni9mj1km5j หลายเดือนก่อน

      作为中国人,看到郑成功写下来的记录,葡萄牙人的记录是正确的

  • @teo5758
    @teo5758 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of the best episode of this channel !

  • @breninowen2427
    @breninowen2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been waiting for this episode! Thanks guys

  • @juliuscaesar2861
    @juliuscaesar2861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Zheng Chenggong is not a pirate, but his father, Zheng Zhilong, was. Koxinga was a loyalist of Ming Empire, who refused to surrender to Manchu, even after his father had already given himself up to the Qing.

    • @VisualdelightPro
      @VisualdelightPro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely Corr3ct also the Manchu Qing are not Chinese they are expelled Tungusic anti human Luciferians.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    “Maybe we should reform, modernise and open up?”
    Said no one in the Ming or Qing courts.

    • @VladislavDrac
      @VladislavDrac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      So convinced that they're above all else

    • @MiguelLopez-yc2rh
      @MiguelLopez-yc2rh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ​@@aver_nestress4570 You say it like no eastern nation did the same during that time.
      Also, what about countries like Switzerland?

    • @cockatyusha2359
      @cockatyusha2359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@mq7447 who says that Qing didn't modernise? The Ming merely reverse engineered some European cannons and firearms. Meanwhile, late Qing also underwent socio-economic reforms modelled after the west. All the cutting edge weapons that the Beiyang clique armies possessed were also inherited from the Qing.

    • @cockatyusha2359
      @cockatyusha2359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mq7447 I think that Qing society and government is more or less the same as the Ming, just different rulers. Neither dynasties can keep up with the west had they persisted with their neo Confucian policies. Mere intellectual exchanges with the Jesuits won't be sufficient. I think that significant advancements were only made around the time of and since the may forth movement where western institutions and ideas like liberalism, republicanism and socialism began to spread.

    • @sharadowasdr
      @sharadowasdr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Chinese pirates during this whole time : "How many times do we have to teach you a lesson old man !"

  • @justinvang561
    @justinvang561 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is a solider who fought for the Dutch at Fort Zeelandia against Koxinga at the time named Albrecht Herport. This is what he said about the Ming Dynasty China "The Chinese knew how to make very effective guns and cannons, so that it’s scarcely possible to find their equal elsewhere".

  • @coaxb9965
    @coaxb9965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is amazing history that doesn't get mentioned at all !
    I find it completely beautiful !!

  • @joeketa6352
    @joeketa6352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video. I lived in Tainan City for seven years and read many accounts of the battles for Fort Zeelandia and of the Zheng dynasty. The Zheng family went through so much drama before and after arriving in Taiwan. It would make a compelling HBO series.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    Wonder what happened to the African soldiers of Koxinga...

    • @hantingliu882
      @hantingliu882 3 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      They are blacknese now

    • @vietviolar5850
      @vietviolar5850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      @@hantingliu882 A Chigga you mean.

    • @johnjay5868
      @johnjay5868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@hantingliu882 Not nice

    • @imperialguardsman9867
      @imperialguardsman9867 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      For I understood the soldiers of Koxing after their defeat against Qing(after his death) were integrated into Qing and many of them end up serving the dynasty in posts all over empire including in north against Russians. So thats kind interesiting.

    • @jerryx3253
      @jerryx3253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Integration into the firearm branch of the Qing military.

  • @AlphaOmegaGreece
    @AlphaOmegaGreece 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video well done! As a Greek mythology-history video creator myself i think such channels are a must in TH-cam.Congratulations!

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great episode 👍

  • @3mKay
    @3mKay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    cool, I learn from my father than my father that my grandmother's ancestors 13 generations ago was a chinese pirate that settled in Thailand

  • @jpstapylton
    @jpstapylton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You've really gone and outdone yourself with this one lads the graphics are outstanding! 👏🏻👏🏻

    • @Zantides
      @Zantides 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should i feel bad for totally ignoring the video and playing total war instead atm lmao.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes

  • @matthewbryson6423
    @matthewbryson6423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a fascinating story! An amazing presentation as well.

  • @cooolbigguy
    @cooolbigguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! I was fortunate to have visited some of the locations mentioned

  • @louiscarlotimkang8844
    @louiscarlotimkang8844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Also please cover about the Chinese pirate named Lin Feng also known as "Limahong" in the history of the Philippines.

    • @tonifrancisco417
      @tonifrancisco417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Up

    • @ColoniaMurder20
      @ColoniaMurder20 ปีที่แล้ว

      how about notorious visayan pirates in the philippines who brings terrors in coastal area in china during pre colonial?

  • @anthonychan4338
    @anthonychan4338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Shi Lang 施琅 deserved a mention, he was a talented officer in Koxinga’s fleet, but had issues with Koxinga’s son, when Shi left to work for the Qing, Koxinga had Shi’s father and son killed, motivating Shi to destroy the Koxinga clan. Shi became the commander in chief of the Qing fleets and led 300 warships and over 20K troops from Fujian Province to defeat the Koxinga clan at the Battle of Penghu (1683), and bringing Taiwan into the Qing empire.

    • @XuerLi
      @XuerLi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shi Lang and his brother, as well as Gan Hui were three of the most fearsome generals under Koxinga, unfortunately Shi Lang had bad relationship with Koxinga and eventually surrendered to Qing, and Gan was killed in the siege of Nanjing.

    • @lan250
      @lan250 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      施琅 是最可惡的大漢奸

    • @herosio270
      @herosio270 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shi Lang and Hong Chengchou were both traitors of the Han people, even though they were fellow countrymen of Koxinga who came from Quanzhou, Fujian.

  • @Muguratiu
    @Muguratiu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As always, beautiful content. Things I would probably never have the ocasion to discover, I find here. Also, the artwork of late become increasingly beautiful. Thank you for this and keep it up! Signed: a curious European.

  • @Crytica.
    @Crytica. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eindelijk een video over ons en dan is het over hoe wij worden gesloopt.

  • @lesleylee3755
    @lesleylee3755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Never thought I will hear Formosa and Zeelandia in English one-day (I literally live near the fort😂)

    • @yoyo-vn3qd
      @yoyo-vn3qd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      台南的朋友你好

    • @nucks2233
      @nucks2233 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Taiwan has a very interesting history eh? Buncha pirates, LOL!

  • @nekomakhea9440
    @nekomakhea9440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "It's over, I have the high ground" - The Chinese upon seizing a redoubt overlooking your fortress

    • @vonbalt4891
      @vonbalt4891 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @AIIUserNamesInvalid If only a certain jedi turncoat had thought that way too..

  • @stacey_1111rh
    @stacey_1111rh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellently done

  • @andreasleonardo6793
    @andreasleonardo6793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too nice history's video from excellent historic channel thanks for sharing

  • @yip2454
    @yip2454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This needs to be made into a movie

  • @matejzabcic6762
    @matejzabcic6762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Failing to take Nanjing but conquering Taiwan is like failing to win the Premier League but winning the FA Cup.

  • @georgeabraham5672
    @georgeabraham5672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome as always

  • @haitaoliu9743
    @haitaoliu9743 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work. Hard to believe, that I, a Chinese, would learn so much about this legendary pirates family in an English speaking youtube channel. Kudos to you.

  • @XuerLi
    @XuerLi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Zheng Zhilong was just a pirate businessman, unlike his son he didn't receive any proper confucian education, he was never a Ming loyalist, he had strong military forces in Fujian but refused the orders from Longwu emperor of fighting against the Qing, instead he took a large portion of his troops and surrendered to Qing.

  • @jomni
    @jomni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Interesting times. There’s also this Japanese lord named Yamada Nagamasa who served the Thai / Siamese Kingdom of Ayutthaya. Ayutthaya also employed Europeans to man their artillery. Asia at that time was more cosmopolitan than we think.

    • @xygog2408
      @xygog2408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Chinese, Indians and Arabs have settled in SE Asia since ancient times. I figure Japanese emigrated to the Philippines too. At the end of Ming dynasty, European colonialism has reared its ugly in SE Asia too.

    • @larshofler8298
      @larshofler8298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Asia has always been cosmopolitan since the medieval times... Europeans were very late to the party, mostly because they lived in the remote northwest corner of the continent...

    • @user-pd9ju5dk5s
      @user-pd9ju5dk5s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Pick up a history book. Ayutthaya was once one of the richest cities in the world. Angkor was also a very large and metropolitan city. Japan was also WAY more metropolitan than the Portuguese when they arrived in Japan. Portugal's population was only 2 million while Spain's was 8 million. Meanwhile Japan was 18 to 26 million.
      If wasnt for the firearm technology, the West might not have been so successful

    • @bmona7550
      @bmona7550 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There is a reason why the Chinese and the Japanese regarded the Europeans at the time as barbarians as well. They had poor hygiene compared to Asians at the time, took over land because Europe was a sh*thole, and wasn’t as rich in resources. That’s all it is to it. If you look at last history, the most prosperous and peaceful times were in Asia specifically South East Asia. If you were from anywhere else, you would have experienced things like constant war, raids, failed alliances and genocide. Those things happened as well but not the same extent as in Europe and regions around Europe

    • @user-pd9ju5dk5s
      @user-pd9ju5dk5s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bmona7550 Aside from Greek and Romans, the rest of Europe was considered barbarian backwaters.

  • @OrbitalAstronaut
    @OrbitalAstronaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good video. Fun to watch.

  • @philandeswilliams1975
    @philandeswilliams1975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    All your videos are good. This is one of the best; the sea is in that family's blood!

  • @dannywong4002
    @dannywong4002 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    During the 16th. century, Ming China was still a naval power to be reckoned with. Before Coxinga gave the Dutch a thrashing, the Chinese had defeated the Portuguese in two battles, Battle of Sincouwaan & Battle of Tunmen.

  • @wulffhe4102
    @wulffhe4102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loving the Three Kingdoms background music!

  • @HondaFanboy
    @HondaFanboy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Engaging, well paced, crafted and produced. Kudos! I about a part of Chinese andTaiwanese history that I probably never would have taken the time to learn.

  • @yao842
    @yao842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. Really interesting. thank you.

  • @unifieddynasty
    @unifieddynasty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You guys should totally do a video on the southern Ming remnants in Yunnan and the coast. And include that Polish priest who went back to ask the Pope for help against the Qing.

  • @henryhao007
    @henryhao007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The emperor committee suicide when the peasant army took over the capital, which basically forced the army garrisoned at great wall join forces with the Manchus, some details u might missed.

  • @scponyoutube313
    @scponyoutube313 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video

  • @VictorNobrega1986
    @VictorNobrega1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work 👌👍😀

  • @lennhsu
    @lennhsu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    In Taiwan we usually just call him by his actual name "Zheng Cheng Kung". The title Koxinga is used sparingly, mostly in folk religion (Yes he is worshiped in Taiwan as a deity, not a major one though). His given name Cheng Kung, which conveniently literally means success or achievement, is also used to name a high school and an university to commemorate him.

  • @cbrtdgh4210
    @cbrtdgh4210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The Ming princes fled to Burma and Taiwan, from which remnants fought against the Qing.
    400 years or so later, the KMT also fled to Burma and Taiwan, from which they fought against the CCP. I wonder whether KMT Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek was influenced by history.

    • @shappi99
      @shappi99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not many other places to go, really :D

    • @photon1899
      @photon1899 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think he was. I mean Taiwan was basically his only possible option thanks to it being relatively free from Communist influence due to Japanese colonialism and the islands ethnic and cultural distinctiveness.

    • @jerryx3253
      @jerryx3253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also one thing in common, both were shit at managing the country in their later years. (massive scale of famine, diseases and inability to govern properly among political infightings)

    • @cbrtdgh4210
      @cbrtdgh4210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jerryx3253 Yes the KMT never managed to get a full grip on the chaos of the warlord era after the Qing. Still, the famine and death under their control pales in comparison to that caused by Mao and his social engineering projects.

    • @cbrtdgh4210
      @cbrtdgh4210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jerryx3253 between 15-55 million died in the great famine. Millions were persecuted during Mao's time, especially during the Cultural Revolution. Meanwhile, Taiwan thrived and prospered.

  • @axolotl-guy9801
    @axolotl-guy9801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video!

  • @samfcarvalho
    @samfcarvalho 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    History lessons never learnt: privateers always turn against their master lol

    • @TheGhostOperative
      @TheGhostOperative 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you cant make someone do your dirty job then expect deference. the viking sagas will tell you that.

    • @admontblanc
      @admontblanc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which is why Portugal ever barely employed them.

  • @fredfrond6148
    @fredfrond6148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This would make a great movie maybe even a mini series.

    • @WingChunBoyz
      @WingChunBoyz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There’s a TVB series called Zheng Cheng Gong starring Ray Lui. It was made in the late 80’s/early 90’s.

  • @yannsteunou-murray9401
    @yannsteunou-murray9401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I can make a request, perhaps a video on Ching Shih? Stunning work as always!

  • @lordblenkinsopp1537
    @lordblenkinsopp1537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved the art style in this one! Are you ever going to do a series on the Peloponnesian War?

  • @kevinhu8415
    @kevinhu8415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I want to ask when is the next video about Imjin war?I like that series,thank you for your great video!

    • @kevinhu8415
      @kevinhu8415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tecumseh Thanks I will!

  • @Boatswain_Tam
    @Boatswain_Tam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video and brilliant narration, as always. Just one thing, are you sure fort Zeelandia is not a Star Fort?Its showing as a round citadel.

  • @coastsouljah
    @coastsouljah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is very cool.
    Quite timely :)

  • @redayasubba5778
    @redayasubba5778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never knew about this history thank you kings and generals

  • @arthurreede4478
    @arthurreede4478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    Of course it's a german snitching the dutch hahaha

    • @hansihobr
      @hansihobr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's strange that they haven't blamed a Spanish :P

    • @saintdelisiaso3613
      @saintdelisiaso3613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What happend in 1918

    • @arthurreede4478
      @arthurreede4478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@luux4177 yeh definately not after they got the blame of the first war. Although they were polite enough to respect our neutrality the first war. The second not so much and our elder still call the germans names for that

    • @arthurreede4478
      @arthurreede4478 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hansihobr When the Spanish allied with Portugal they probably did :')

    • @Miquelalalaa
      @Miquelalalaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay dude I’m fine with stereotypes because they’re usually accurate and make for good humour but let’s face it you probably wouldn’t be playing on stereotypes about a non-white people... it’s not politically correct to do so.

  • @serumcell7216
    @serumcell7216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is one of the most interesting episodes on something I had close to 0 knowledge about. The amount of people from different ethnic & cultural backgrounds working together on this one was incredibly interesting and kind of emotional.

  • @ChrisJohnson-jb3cb
    @ChrisJohnson-jb3cb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was epic!!!

  • @adanphu4325
    @adanphu4325 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good job

  • @steyn1775
    @steyn1775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    *Dutch is mentioned in Thumbnail*
    *Loud rumble can be heard in the distance as the Dutch are coming to do what's know as*
    *"G E K O L O N I S E E R D !"*

    • @bluemoondiadochi
      @bluemoondiadochi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Could still be worse: at least it isn't the Spanish.

    • @KarimDeLakarim
      @KarimDeLakarim 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @AIIUserNamesInvalid Inqu.........................

    • @hmmmhmmm6917
      @hmmmhmmm6917 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KarimDeLakarim Don't say it...

    • @dominiquewong4706
      @dominiquewong4706 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bluemoondiadochi Fun fact: The Spanish actually colonized the north of Taiwan for 16 years and the Dutch rule them out.

    • @viracocha6093
      @viracocha6093 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Other way around this time

  • @sonicart77
    @sonicart77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In Taiwan Koxinga's name is Zheng Cheng Gong. In Tainan the old Dutch fort still exists

  • @user-hv8fw1hb1n
    @user-hv8fw1hb1n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good history channel

  • @sharifnl9435
    @sharifnl9435 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, again! Love to see you make one on The Dutch East India Company, would that be something that could happen in the future?

  • @MrShadd777
    @MrShadd777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    if he had captured Nanjing instead of giving them 2 weeks. The history of China might be different

  • @enduringkarma2373
    @enduringkarma2373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The fact he took out the dutch is a testimony to the power of intelligence

  • @TheCodeSwordfish
    @TheCodeSwordfish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please cover Marius vs Sulla and the reforms.🙏
    And Graccho Brothers.
    Thank you for the hard work !

  • @pranavmishra263
    @pranavmishra263 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @KingsandGenerals you all should surely make a video on The Battle of Saragarhi.

  • @johnpaulmoy1677
    @johnpaulmoy1677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The most interesting part you forgot to add is that the Dutch fortress was initially owned by the Spanish. Conquistadores had arrived there with the intent of trying to conquer China from the Phillipines. Scheming governors and ambitious Spaniards/Portuguese (united at the time) thought to use Taiwan as a forward base to invade southern China. This never happened b/c the Dutch caught them with their pants down. Instead the Spanish and Portuguese conquistadores united to invade Cambodia which is a story for another time.

  • @deadby15
    @deadby15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Koxinga sent a letter to the Japanese Shogunate Government to seek help restoring Ming. Some Warlords did wish to join the fray, stating that would be a good training for their warriors, the Shogun ultimately decided they shouldn't interfere.

    • @Jake-dh9qk
      @Jake-dh9qk ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Probably cus they were still salty from the Imjin wars

    • @user-jw5bf5ny3z
      @user-jw5bf5ny3z ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the cold weapon war, Japan has never defeated China, and I think Japan's consideration is correct.

    • @KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
      @KhanhNguyen-mh5ec 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-jw5bf5ny3zUntil world war 2

  • @xmoreno3366
    @xmoreno3366 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so coool thanks for videoo

  • @samsmith2635
    @samsmith2635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:26 Man, well said, love this guy.

  • @cavc94
    @cavc94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Are these Zheng related to Zheng He? That would be kind of poetic.
    On the other hand I'd love to see more videos about this region on this era. It seems like an ethnic salat where you can find people from many places. Something about Yamada Nagamasa maybe?

  • @Kabutoes
    @Kabutoes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    people talk about the Russo-japanese war in 1905 was the first great defeat of european powers by an asian one. I say it's when the Ming took back Taiwan from the Dutch

  • @SuperHyee
    @SuperHyee 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks !

  • @hunterkiller3167
    @hunterkiller3167 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mesmerizing!