Adidas Supernova Rise - A different approach to the daily trainer
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- My initial impressions of the new Adidas Supernova Rise after 47km (29.2mi).
0:00 Intro
1:10 Specs
1:55 Upper & fit
3:45 Midsole
6:25 Outsole
7:15 The ride
8:31 Flexibility in a proper trainer
10:29 Two key attributes
12:37 Next steps
13:13 Outro
June 2024, Updated review: Adidas Supernova Rise after 200 miles - Superb! • Adidas Supernova Rise ...
Disclosures: No one is paying me to make this video and no one has any editorial control over the contents of this video. Additionally, I have no connection into Adidas’s design or marketing process. Everything I cover in this video is my own opinion and experience.
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thoughtful take as always. thank you.
Thank you for watching. 🤙🏻
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Great review! I'll add it to the list of potential 2024 daily trainer replacements alongside the Pegasus and the Adizero SL lines. I recently find myself enjoying lower stack shoes more for my everyday training.
If you are enjoying lower stack shoes...this is definitely one to add to the list.
@@SagasuRunning I just went to an Adidas store and found out the Rise (and Solution) had arrived yesterday!🥳 The fit is definitely not like the Adizero line. I went down half a size to a US 10 on the Adios Pro 3, but for the Rise I need a US 11 or probably a 11.5, otherwise my big toe hits the front of the shoe. It feels as plush as my Triumph 20, but I couldn't take them out for a test run. I'll see if I can hold out a little longer for the release (and reviews) of the Peg 41 and SL 2 (about to check your review on the Speed 4 too). Hope you're staying safe!
WOW! EXCITED THAT I'VE BEEN SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING THIS, TO REPLACE MY ZOOMX NIKE STREAKFLY ( I KNOW, TOTALLY UNRELATED SHOES) WHICH I DECIDED TO BUY UPON WATCHING YOUR REVIEW. I HAVE THOROUGHLY AND TRULY ENJOYED AND LOVED THE NIKE STREAKFLY (LOOKS GREAT, FITS BEAUTIFULLY, COMFORT AND GREATEST SURPRISE, BEEN AMAZINGLY DURABLE, 170 PLUS MILES (IAM A FOREFOOT STRIKER) FOR A RACEDAY SHOE WHICH I TRAINED IN TOO, I COULD GO ON & ON. ITS EXCEEDED MY EXPECTATIONS) THE ADIDAS SUPERNOVA RISE IS BECAUSE IAM LOOKING TO LONGER DISTANCES AND A DAILY TRAINER, INCREASED DURABILITY. THANKS I'LL PROCEED WITH THE RISE BASED ON YOUR ADVICE ONCE AGAIN.
Think of the Rise as a trainer version of the Streakfly. It’s much more built up and durable but still flexible, for a trainer, and will give similar benefits of good foot flex and training stimulus…
Love this review. You should really consider getting the topo cyclone 2. Think it'll have everything you love in a daily tempo package
It’s on my list of shoes to cover this year… but I doubt I’ll ever see it unless I’m in the US. I’ve never once seen a Topo shoe here in Taiwan.
I may get to it… but no idea when.
only JUST became available here in australia@@SagasuRunning
The way you describe the shoe reminds me the Vomero 16 which was my primary daily shoe. I only had two shoes in my rotation back then. Vomero 16 and one fast shoe (Takumi Sen). If I was doing the same sort of relaxed runs I would consider getting this shoe but I think my Boston 12 covers everything I need from a daily trainer perspective.
I just checked official adidas online shop and it's seems Supernova Rise has really great ratings compared to other non-adios running shoes. They are selling 4 different colourways and most of them already sold out.
I’d say the Vomero is the closest shoe to the Rise in use case, but the Rise is a much better shoe.
The B12, while great, is plated and far too aggressive and stiff for daily use for me… but it is a shoe I do love as a companion to the Rise.
Good to know they are doing well in your country. They are popular here in Taiwan, at the moment, but it’s still all the launch promo stuff everywhere.
Vomero 16 lovers unite! I had 10 pairs of that shoe and didn’t love how they increased the stack on the new one - felt chunky. Super excited to hear about the supernova being close
I’d say it’s closer to the V17 than the V15/16 though…
Thank you for your in-depth review, really enjoyed your vids so far. I'm a beginner runner (10k @ 6:30/km) and currently own 2 pairs of non-plated trainers (Peg 40 for daily and NB Rebel v3 for speed work). Do you think which plated trainer should I get to cover a wider variety of trainings and also use for future races (if really needed)? I'm interested in the Boston 12/Takumi Sen but not sure if I really need it at this stage of training.
Btw I hope that you can have a vid on the Adizero SL and compare it with Peg/Supernova Rise in the future :D
Between the two shoes you mentioned, the Boston 12 is the one I’d recommend. It’s a shoe that will get you up to speed with a plated shoe but it will work well for training and is a great first racer. However, there should be a Boston 13 coming soon (?)… and I have seen no leaks as to what changes in it as of yet.
I’m a big fan of lots of foam, but lately i think there’s a time and purpose for a shoe ( like u said for the CF plated shoes) these shoes def seem to help strengthen my feet, and helps overall to really appreciate the racing shoes we have now
That they will, but in subtle ways. These are a great training option for building foot strength with having to go to a full minimalist shoe or racing flat. I will be curious, later in the year, how these pair with the Adios 9 as well for foot and leg strength building.
Hey Chris as always very informative and interesting content, love it! I think you touch on a very important point here, namely that the shoe is flexible not only non-plated. I think (and this is only anecdotal) that if you race in a plated and rigid shoe , that alone is not bad but you should offset it with a flexible shoe in training [at least to some extent] to give your feet more stimulus. I see a lot of comments of people wanting to train in a non-plated trainer but even these can be quite rigid. So I think this is a good addition and I agree with you that it is surprising that this comes from adidas. Since we are talking about adidas and rigidity, I read that the takumi sen 10 is way stiffer than version 9 and 8. Will you be covering the 10?
Thanks again for this video, I look forward to the next one.
Yes, we saw him run in the Takumi sen 10 on Strava!
I can confirm that the Takumi 10 is stiffer than the 9. Not by much that it changes the ride character of the Takumi line but definitely noticeable. I have tested both on a treadmill one after the other. Toe box and upper fit felt better on the 10 but the 9 was a smoother ride.
I fully agree… it’s the main reason I’m such a fan of this shoe. I’ve been looking for a flexible trainer for sometime.
Yes, my TS10 initial impressions video will be the next video on the channel this Sunday… stay tuned.
I’m finding a greatly prefer the TS10 over the 9… but I will compare them in the video this weekend. There are some marked differences for sure.
Had noticed this one but kind of have overlooked it as a potential try out largely as nobody seemed that excited about it. On the plus side I can see it in my size UK 13.5 but in just one of the 5 colourways available on adidas UK. Better than ASICS at least :) Maybe one to see if can find any of the 35% discount codes for adidas have used for odd shoes in the past. Historically I went from the Boston 6 to a Supernova 8 (Boost shoe) for a year or so circa 2016. They then discontinued that brand name for a while but now seem hot on it again.
High risk of brickishness. It’s going to be 350g or more in 13.
@@brianreiter5572 good point. Been trying to avoid them of late although the Invincible 1 did a turn on Monday when wanted a bit more cushion than normal.
Agree… the upper is also a training fit, which means it’s generous, so for your narrow foot it might be an issue too.
The shoe fits long but it’s not overly narrow… so it may be an issue.
@@SagasuRunning you are rather putting me off LOL but those Hoka Mach 6 that are "narrow" seemed to have given me two small blisters on the side of my big toe so had better figure out what's going there. No problems in VF2 today although was plastered up!
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Great review, as always, Chris. My only concern about adding the Rise to a rotation that includes the Boston 12 for workout days and the Pro 3 for race day is that now your rotation is entirely energy-rodded, and with essentially the same LS Pro midsole. I'm trying to limit plates/rods to race day and not training days so that I do the work and not the shoes, if that makes sense. Thanks, Chris.
Dreamstrike+ is an entirely different foam and the support rods are a standard EVA. Not rigid like the energy rods. Totally different stimulus for your foot. If anything it’s the needed addition that Adidas was missing that is not Lightstrike Pro or Lightstrike 2.0.
@@SagasuRunning Well explained. Thanks, Chris.
This seems like a perfect occasional workout shoe when you want the same recovery but don't want the rocker, plate, etc. I have used the MoreV4 to accomplish this same task of when I want to actually really put some work in on muscles that aren't used when running in racing shoes but the problem is that then my recovery is bad because there is no Peba. While that might be too niche of a purpose for me personally, if I had unlimited money, I would definitely use it for track workouts when I don't want to spike up, wear a racing flat, or a marathon shoe but still want good recovery that only Peba can offer.
This is more of an easy trainer than something for workouts. It will do them but there are better options if you want PEBA for that (Nike Streakfly)… but as a daily trainer than can do many things… it’s excellent.
"Someone would eventually make it." Topo Cyclone 2 did it long before, just not with as much of a forefoot rocker. But there you have and had a PEBAX, low stack, daily trainer with good ground feel and nimble mechanics overall.
But I’m not a fan of “wide” natural toe boxes (spent to long with them and barefoot shoes) and Topo athletic are nearly impossible to get here in Taiwan.
So Adidas gets massive credit here still in my book. Especially given their size and reach.
Additionally, Nike did it longer back with the original Streakfly. You could also count the Turbo in there too… so Topo also isn’t the first.
I like the Supernova Rise very much. Actually so much so that I gave away my Asics Gel-Nimbus 25's to my wife.
The SNR is a very unique shoe and I’m really really enjoying it for any type of running that isn’t fast. So good for all those easy/moderate kms in a shoe that isn’t max stack and heavily rockered.
I have actually tried this model on a treadmill, the only thing that prevented me from pulling the trigger on this shoe is that I know Adidas is going to to be releasing the Supernova Prima(6mm drop) later this year.
This Supernova Rise rides better and smoother than the Puma Velocity Nitro 3 in my opinion and in my country is priced cheaper than the Puma.
There are definitely more Supernovas coming… they have hinted at a few more.
I find the Rise and the VN3 work well tighter as companions. One flexible and soft shoe and one firmer shoe give a range to the feet for training.
I’m enjoying both.
I'm considering the Adidas supernova rise and brooks glycerin 21 as my next casual commuter shoes to replace my new balance 1080v13. Since I'm enjoying the Adidas Boston 12 as my main running shoe.
Hands down the Rise is a better looking shoe. It’s one I would wear casually without hesitation. I can’t say that about a Brooks.
Both would be good options on foot though.
Best daily trainer since the Nike Pegasus 36
Currently, I'd agree with this...but we do have some big hitters coming out in the coming months!
I've done 200 km in this model, and it's very decent. I work in running retail and this shoe is quite popular, great alternative to beginners/those wanting something basic but refined. I personally prefer the Velocity 3s more responsive and less flexible platform. Both lasts are fantastic.
I agree fully. This is a great “everybody” shoe than anyone can jump into and do well with. The Adidas Supernova Rise (or Stride) would be my pick for first ever runner for most. The more flexible shoe will help new runners develop feel and their stride. Then they can move to the firmer platform of the Puma and really fly. Both work well together.
I do like the last of the VN3 quite a bit too.
In the UK, adidas online/app offer this shoe with a 30 day no questions asked return policy, I got them because of that and have to say I've been really impressed with them, a really good every day running shoe. adidas putting their money where there mouth is with this line up.
Same here in Taiwan… it’s actually a 45 day no questions asked/bring the shoe back in any condition for a refund if you don’t like them. They really are putting their money behind it. Great to see.
hey man I have been enjoying your content a lot lately keep up the good work, also have you seen the Adidas adios pro 4 and Evo c pictures ? I feel like you where spot on predicting what Adidas can do next after the evo 1 as it seem like the evo c has a peba midsole although it could be something else, would love to know your thoughts, as those deep dives are so interesting thank you for your content.
Yes, I have seen them and they are fascinating. The emphasis on the AP4 seems surprising to me, but it is Adidas making that the star again (which makes sense in the big picture). A lot of details in that shoe are interesting and I’ll talk about them once we get some official photos and details.
The Evo C is much more unexpected. My big question is how will the PEBA shoe coexist with the AP4 and the TS10…and what will elites pick to race in. I have so many questions.
I’m excited for both and can’t wait for real details and to run in both! I’ll definitely be covering them in depth. Stay tuned. 🤙🏻
Where are the photos of the new shoes?
Look on Instagram… you’ll find endless photos of them there form all the leakers.
@@SagasuRunning so basically the pro 4 will be a more durable evo?
It sees the way… still with LSP though. Unless there is a second layer of core of LSPE foam from the Evo 1… hard to know from the leaked images.
I tried the Novablast 4 in my size, and backed of by how constricted the fit around the metatarsophalangeal was..then I accidentally pass an Adidas store and remembered this video, and decided to give the Supernova Rise a try, and was very much surprised by how comfortable the fit and upper material is..not something I would expect from an Adidas fit…so I swiped my card for this one
Ya, this one is totally unexpected from Adidas. I'm happy to see them going this direction with this style of shoe though. Definitely something they needed. Also a great product.
I'm waiting to see the next stability shoes from Adidas. If they will launch a SolarGlide 7 or if it was replaced by the SuperNova Solution ( this one lacks Continental rubber) . Anyways, if I see no 150-170 dollars premium stability shoes from Adidas, them I might try the SuperNova Solution. It looks cool and it's quite less heavy them the old SolarGlide 6 and even beats the Gel-Kayano 30 and NB Vongo V6 .
If you know something about the "Revival " of the SolarGlide/SolarBoost shoes ,let us known!
Thanks.
I don’t have any insight into that shoe nor have I heard anything about them. The Solution is a mild stability shoe compared to to the SolarGlides of the past though.
There have been leaks of an UltraBoost Light 2… so maybe that means there will be more Boost updates too.
Are you ever planning to Cover true Motion. Its a German start Up that also has a very very different approach on Shoes. I have the true Motion U-Tech Aion (daily Trainer) wich is a interesting Shoe for Sure. Would probably make a very interesting Video that fits your Channel really Well. Just an idea would be cool to hear your Opinion on their Shoes. Nice Video as Always, Hope you have a good day
I’ve never heard of them but now I’ll keep an eye on them. What makes them so special? It’s hard to decipher their website.
Plus… this is a brand they I’ll never get here in Taiwan.
I was conflicted between Supernova Rise and Boston 12, in the end it was an easy decision to go with Supernova Rise after trying out both. Go with Supernova Rise if you want to also use it for walking,. Boston 12 might have a slight edge on longer and slightly faster running workouts, especially if you want to combine it with a plated shoe in an upcoming race day.
If you want to use both of these shoes; use Supernova Rise for base training and switch to Boston 12 after base training as you start training workouts for any upcoming race event.
Agree with this. The SNR and B12 are very different shoes for very different purposes. The SNR is for easy running and the B12 is a fast trainer.
I just ordered the Wave Rider 27. If I could have found the Rise to try on I might have ordered it instead. It sounds like what I’ve been looking for. I’m interested to see how the Peg 41 and this compare.
I too am interested to put the Rise against the Peg41… it’s one of my, personally speaking, most anticipated videos. Stay tuned!
Can you use it for walking / work? I tried to do that with the boston 12 but the rods were too stiff on my feet towards the end of the day
This would work well for that. The support rods in the Sueprnova series are EVA foam, not rigid… just foam.
I can’t imagine doing anything else than running in B12s… wow.
i just learnt today that they beefed up the stack height of this shoes and called it Supernova Prima!!
Curious to know how this fits in the daily easy category.
Cushioned trainer…. The supernova series is a family of shoes, there are actually 4 models currently. I’ll discuss it a bit in my 200mi review coming out this week.
How is toebox and midfoot width? They do make a wide, though idk if it's actually any wider in the base or just more upper volume only. Also would it be possible to add the width of the shoe measurements in your reviews like you have done with some other shoes where you made comparisons to different brands in the same class, it helps us wide foot people make a lot more informed choice and I have never seen anyone provide that information other than you! I would greatly appreciate that, and I have with the videos where it is included!
For an Adidas shoe, I'd call the fit "generous" and the upper very accommodating. However, Adidas shoes are all still on the narrow side. So if you normally wear a wide in other brands, you likely need one here.
The last in this shoe is fairly straight and there is a large contact patch on this shoe, especially in the midfoot.
Forefoot: 11.3cm, Midfoot: 7.4cm, Heel: 8.6cm
Lastly, this is a low stack shoe with a softer and VERY flexible foam. It's my ideal shoe but if you like alot of foam underfoot, this is very much not a max stack shoe.
I'll do a deeper "vs" comparison of the Supernova Rise when the Adizero SL 2 is out.
@@SagasuRunning thank you!
How different is this to the Adizero SL ? Curious about the differences, looking forward to choose another daily trainer in 2024 December but we’ll see how that goes
Much softer. Better for easy running. More fun as well. Less versatile for faster running. I actually don’t think they compete, rather they are complimentary.
When the Adizero SL 2 gets here I’ll definitely be doing a vs video comparing them.
I would certainly love a video, like you have done with Nike, explaining the relationships between the Adidas shoes in different road running rotations.
I get the sense SL, Adios and Takumi Sen maybe be the progression for 5 - 10km athletes, and Rise, Boston and Pro may be more suited for the marathon athlete, needing more cushion on long easy runs.
How would this shoe compare to the Adidas Solarglide 6 other than switching boost foam for dreamstrike+?
Are they made for the same purpose? (They got almost the same height and drop)
I’ve never run in the SolarGlides… but the Supernovas will be a much lighter and more modern ride. I can see a lot of overlap but don’t know what Adidas’s plans are here. They seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on the Supernova line now and I know they want to prune some older shoes from the line. It should be clear this year what they are going to do here.
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I appreciate the support over the past year then. Thank you. Thank you. 🙏🏻
Is the heel noticeable as a forefoot striker with the 10mm drop? I'm also a fan of the Streakflly and I think it's 6mm drop helps with the natural feeling of that shoe. Tempted to try the Rise but also keen to see how the SL2 turns out!
It doesn’t bother me nor do I notice it in any bad way. It’s similar to the Pegasus or Vomero…it’s just there and walking is comfortable in it.
I’m curious about the SL 2 as well and can’t wait. I’m wondering how these two shoes will overlap, though the SL 2 should be the more focused and capable trainer.
@@SagasuRunning Yep, I think I'd prefer the slightly firmer LS2.0/LSP combo. Have you heard anything re timing of the SL2 release? Ps. Really appreciate what you're doing here! Really unique, invaluable stuff.
@@tomverdich184 Nothing concrete but I would expect it in the next month or two. The Current SL is from Dec 2022 and a revised SL 2 is key to the Adizero line in 2024, so it needs to come out first.
Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate the support. 🤙🏻
@@SagasuRunning Ended up ordering a pair of the Supernova Rise and they arrived in the post today. I don't want to get too excited but jogging around the house this afternoon I feel they could be exactly the daily trainer I'm after. As you said in your video, excellent lockdown, comfortable upper with good volume for daily training, great midsole (soft enough for daily miles but not too soft such that there isn't any responsiveness), flexible and full rubber. What more could you want! Adidas has done such a great job modernising a 'traditional' daily trainer. Like you, I love that it's only 24mm in the forefoot. I think a lot of brands are missing a trick by not producing something to the Supernova Rise.
I did 18k easy in them this morning and am constant surprised how good they are. A really unique shoe that was very needed! Enjoy them.
I love the Pegasus. How would you rate this compared to that
More modern. Better recovery aspects. Less versatile for faster runner.
When the Pegasus 41 is here I’ll definitely be doing a vs video.
So resilience is low.. hmm.
… lower compared to a race foam… but still higher than typical training foam.
I don’t get, Adidas also release Duramo line. How does it compare? Also, my first daily runner is Adidas’ Supernova plus and I’ve just received my Boston 12 as my new daily runner and trainer for my first half marathon, should I buy Adios Pro 3 or Takumi Sen 10 for my race day shoe?
The Duramo is a budget trainer, not the same level as the Supernovas or the Adizero lines. The B12 is a great training shoe put I'd add a non plated trainer, like the Rise, to pair with it for training. Training 100% of the time in plated shoes is not a great idea.
For your race shoe...100% the Adios Pro 3, if you want to stay with Adidas. However, if it's your first half marathon and you find the B12 comfortable...you can definitely race in that too.
what about saucony tempus? is it not something similar but without a pronation control?
I’m not a Saucony fan nor do I run in them… but on paper (looking at the specs) there are comparisons for sure.
I think they absolutely nailed it with this shoe, and I look forward to more shoes with that amazing peba based cruiser foam.
I was kinda critical as I saw the adverts for this shoe, felt even annoyed by it, till I understood what this shoe is... and for what it is, it is really great.
I agree. The Rise is a great shoe but I’m most curious how the evolve this platform and where else they use this great from.
@@SagasuRunning Short update. This shoe has become one of my favorite shoes for easy runs, down to "recovery" runs and "I dont want to run today, but I have to"-Runs.
Really really a great shoe, and I say that as someone who usually likes "action" shoes, that wants to jump everywhere with each step etc.
Thank you for your review it was 100% on point.
Agree… this shoe is that warm hug for easy runs and those days you don’t want to go out… but have too. See my most recent short as a tribute to that aspect of this shoe.
So little hype for this one compared to other brands. Adidas needs to up their marketing.
Adidas HAS been marketing this one heavily, but it's not really at runners. Here in Taiwan it is mostly aimed at fitness. It is an odd choice.
So is this competing with the the likes of the Pegasus, whereas the SL2 with a full bed of LSP is going to compete with the likes of Rebel v4 to compete as a lightweight daily?
They both compete with the Pegasus as far as I’m concerned. I’m very curious about the SL 2 but don’t think the heel to toe LSP surrounded by LS2.0 will feel the same as a Rebel v4 or a Mach 6. I’ll be running in all those mentioned here though so I’ll compare all of them. Stay tuned.
Had the chance to have a look at this shoe and I can say the toe box is super stiff / super hard! Not sure if it would affect my foot.
I have a New Balance with a hard toe box and it hurts my foot a lot, just around less than a mile during a run.
But this Adidas Supernova is like 2x the hardness of the toe box.
The toe bumper in this shoe is firm, but it lifts the material off of the tops of the toes and forefoot giving a nice volume to that area. I've not run into any issues with toe rub or pain. I find it quite nice actually as I dislike shoes where the top of the toe box lays on the toes or presses down on them.
@@SagasuRunning thanks, I'll try this one out.
Boston 12 vs Supernova Rise? How do you position this?
Non plated trainer and tempo shoe. Great mini rotation right there.
Would it be good for long runs?
I’ve done multiple 16k runs and they felt great. I’ll take them out for a 20-25k run in the coming weeks.
They should do well, though may be a little minimal in the forefoot for many for long runs.
Can this be used for treadmill and gym?
Yes, it would work very well for both.
Your review gives me more confidence than some others I have seen, but what gave me hesitation on this shoe was the Peba. I worry it's just marketing. An an example, the New Balance Rebel V4 is a trining shoe with a Peba blend, but it's 20% Peba and 80% basic EVA.... so makes me feel like they just wanted to be able to say Peba. I haven't run in any iteration of the Rebel, but logically speaking, the previous version being TPU makes and then going to that 80/20 blend feels almost like a downgrade. BUT -- PEBA.
As far as I know Dreamstike+ is a PEBA foam, not a blend with something else. Also, from wearing the Rebel b4 now… the foam in the Rise is light years better. The foam in the Rebel v4 is not good (more on this in a few weeks).
The Rise and the Rebel are not in the same class but I’d take the Rise over it any day of the week for any type of run…
@@SagasuRunning Good to know! I have been tempted by the Rebel because so many of the shoetubers are giving it glowing reviews, but have held off.
I’m going to have a very differ opinion on the Rebel v4 than most I think… it’s not very positive… more soon.
@@SagasuRunning Appreciate it. I follow all the usual suspects that I presume a bulk of your audience does. You’re one of only 2-3 that I watch every video, even if I don’t think I’m overly invested in topic/product. Just appreciate your insights and thinking process.
@elliotendures I really appreciate that. I’m glad I’ve earned that spot. Hopefully I can maintain it.
Give us your top daily trainers.
Currently for 2024 the top two daily trainers are in his and the Velocity Nitro 3… but there are still some heavy hitters coming in the next few months that could change that.
I’ll definitely be doing a daily Reiner round up later this summer or early fall. I also think I’ll do a top 5 daily trainers in 2024 at the end of the year too.
How does is compare to novablast 4?
It’s very different. Both are intended for easy volume running… but the NB4 is a max cushion heavily rockered shoe… and the SNR is a traditional geometry lower stack shoe. It depends on what feel you prefer.
Dreamstrike+ is PEBA developed for training and is much nicer that FFBlast+ ECO… though FFBlast+ ECO has a broader range.
It’s very different. Both are intended for easy volume running… but the NB4 is a max cushion heavily rockered shoe… and the SNR is a traditional geometry lower stack shoe. It depends on what feel you prefer.
Dreamstrike+ is PEBA developed for training and is much nicer that FFBlast+ ECO… though FFBlast+ ECO has a broader range.
Thank you for the quick response! In looking for a replacement daily for my NB3 which I love that I’ve had 3 pairs already. Bought the NB4 and SNR and the SNR arrived. A little bit on the firmer side and reminds me of the endorphin speed 1.
Really? The speed 1? I don’t get that in the SNR… it reminds me of a modern Pegasus, just more flexible.
@@SagasuRunning that too actually. Speed 1 is slightly bouncier but had to break them in with 40-50 miles imo. Keep up with the videos. Hard to find genuine reviews these days.
Pretty heavy for a shoe that doesn’t have a max stack.
It’s on par with most others in this class. There is also a lot of materials in this shoe.