I agree, and Hold Your Fire was a really odd album, there were lots of tracks that were pretty 'poppy', they changed with the times and I know many people didn't like it but Hold Your Fire and Presto I thought were great albums, you don't always need ten time changes or be seeing about incomprehensible things. I think a folky tribute version of that should be done beacsue I always hear them putting it down, although right now China is kind of not the same as it was in the eighties.
Ive a music biography junky for years. And every interview i see with Rush. They are so laid back, joking, and never show an ego. i wonder if these guys are really like this. Im sure they are. humble musical gods.
I fucking LOVE "Tai Shan" and HYF is forever my 3rd favorite RUSH album (behind "Permanent Waves" and CoS). Could listen to it on repeat all day. Come at me.
I love "Tai Shan" and, although I know they are only being honest, it always bums me out when they single it out as a song they don't think stands the test of time. Great song!
Cheers, Netboy Steve! Alex does some great clean and percussive electric guitar work (bathed in delay and reverb) on "Tai Shan", kind of reminiscent of his playing on songs like "Territories" and "Mystic Rhythms". Yeah, HOLD YOUR FIRE is a sonic delight.I love that record as well.
Oh, I totally agree. DEspite what it may appear here, I really don't take this stuff THAT seriously. Also, I'm fascinated by what the guys like/don't like from their past catalog and I'd rather know than not know.It's just a big surprise sometimes (what they do or don't recall with a sense of fondness).
Tai Shan brought the very deepest part of the spirit to light which in turn shines brighter than old Sol. Having been a fan since THE very beginning I cannot think of a single Rush song that makes me cringe, even a tiny little bit. Be so very proud my brothers cuz you ROCKED the rock world...
@@gmanthatguy3937 Listen to that song again. But imagine that they called it, "So Involved With Life". Listen to the guitar groove, and the great drumming. Great song, bad title.
Good for you Geddy! I wish more people would speak up and let everyone know that rock and roll is NOT dead! It is far too good to die. What would take its place? Rap? Hip-hop? What a boring and psychotic world that would be! In fact, I feel sorry for kids anymore. When we grew up in the 60s and 70s there was almost an endless parade of great rock coming out of your local radio stations. Now they are stuck with the cynical calculations of the corporations that own them all. Yuck!!!
I heard in a different interview that their most disliked song was Entre Nous. Makes sense because they’ve only regularly played it on 1 tour. It’s still a good song IMO
I'd have to say that Rush itself is a good example of how Rush changes. When he talks about 'magnitude' of rock in the 'seventies and eighties', in the eighties even RUsh's version of 'rock' was very different than the seventies, and in the nineties it was closer to the seventies.
Geddy said in one interview that he cringes when he hears lakeside park. In fact, im pretty sure he's said that he dislikes caress of steel in general, which confuses the hell out of me because I adore that album lol
Lmao,the way they both look at each other with a cheeky smile and both say Tai Shan. I just had a listen,my Hold The Fire cd has a layer of dust on it now,I remember loving Time Stand Still from that album,it was a very positive record,very different from the dark records, Caress Of Steel and Hemispheres. Hemispheres still blows me away.
Gene Simmons is dead! Rush brought a lot of brains to music. When most bands were singing about "getting laid" these guys choose to go the other way. They are the bill gates of rock and roll.
Yeah, can't see ANY way thats a compliment or even analagous. Rock is not dead, its just not the same anymore. Radio rock is still playing the same stuff from the eighties for some reason. Rock CAN be as simple as punk, thats people like the Ramones who know only one or two chords. There's no way there aren't a million bands putting out stuff, its just not on radio for mass consumption.
lol, I have to agree, I love Tai Shan. the Entire hold your fire was great. I know ged and Alex try to beat around the bush with Neil because of the touring. I know they both have that burning desire to still do it. c'mon Neil one more tour :-)
Hey the guys been threw hell and back again. He's thinking of himself and his wife and young daughter. He's been threw it once before the touring and missing his other daughter, who sadly died. I guess he doesn't want to miss Olivia growing up.
These 2 legends are quite remarkable...however I personally have to disagree with "Tai Shan" being a song they wish they hadn't recorded. Absolutely love that song!! Of course she asked for their opinion, not mine.
Rock may not be as mainstream, but its far from dead. Some of the best rock music ever is being created right now, you just have to know where to find it!
Rush fan for decades (1977) I had never heard Tai Shan...Just checked out on YT with the lyrics...Yeah, it does suck...:)...Nah, Just Neil having a moment...
Replace the over the top synth work on Tai shan with acoustic guitar and it would be great. But yeah, it sounds date and very 80's b grade movie soundtrackish.
The last question, "Is rock music dead?" is debatable. If it were dead, then the bands that have been around forever wouldn't go on tour. They wouldn't make any money and nobody would be paying today's exorbitant ticket prices to see them; especially since there is plenty of footage on youtube. The younger generations just need to be exposed to it and they'll see that it was/is far better than the garbage that's been listened to in the last 25 years.
Well by you calling the last 25 years of music garbage then technically you're saying it is dead or is that there was some sort of dead zone! I mean I'm certainly not going to defend everything of the last 25 years but I will say I'm more of the mindset that I seem to believe that there is an order generation that's primarily stuck on itself and that's why their bands are selling tickets! Is it good music yes I'm not going to deny that or even attempt to argue that it isn't good music however I can also say that like all fashions of the past including pop cultures of the past eventually it will end up on the scrap heap of society! So it's like periodically once in a blue moon I will listen to muddy Waters I'm 37 but muddy Waters probably hasn't been super relevant since the 50s and maybe a couple of comeback shows and the 60s! So you can still listen to it it's still there it's not going to go anywhere really it's just unless you yourself happen to conduct a little research and come by it nobody older may feel compelled to tell you about it honestly the majority of music that I have discovered since I was a kid my father never even heard of however my ambitions of discovering a lot of music as actually turned him on to the idea that there's more out there than just Black Sabbath Rush led Zeppelin Hendricks etc! Though I will say I did get encouragement from him after all he did happen to show me big band music though he is an avid Black Sabbath fan so everybody can sort of go and listen to the other stuff and get something out of that! So when I say it'll end up on the scrap heap of society I just mean that it's not going to be current did someday we're all going to look at TH-cam videos and go wow too bad those guys aren't around! You know it's like within the past decade it's become acceptable that in the grocery store or even at home Depot you're hearing a lot of this music whereas somewhere in the 90s I remember is a kid joking wouldn't it be cool if they played led Zeppelin or something at the grocery store or over at the lumber yard? Well now it's happening and I thought it was cool at first and it really is in one respect but on the other hand it's kind of like now it's background music at the grocery store I mean look at it from that perspective and you can't help but laugh!
Not trying to be disrespectful the lady conducting the interview, but it this is the type of subpar interview you get when you don't do your home work as an interviewer . On the Rush fandom scale, I consider myself an 8 or 9, but in the grand scheme on things I am probably a 3-4 compared to their hardcore fans. Even I know they've been saying for years that Tai Shan is one of their least favorite songs they've recorded. Rush unplugged? Come one, a power trio driven by thunderous bass and drums doing an acoustic session? I'm sorry, I get that she is younger, but do better than just trolling the internet for questions to ask the band- or do a little research and listen to some their music. You can completely tell from their responses that they did not consider the questions very thought provoking or interesting. The only good question I thought she asked that you couldn;t Google was advice for aspiring musicians- But somewhat redudnant, because obviously what was done 50 years ago has little bearing on how things are done today.
Rush is the greatest. We are life long fans. We are also musicians and if you have the time please come by our channel and check out our cover of "Subdivisions". It would mean the world to us. Hope you dig it. Thanks much
Hah, knew he was going to say Tai Shan. Im interested in some of the other choices. I get the feeling he wouldve said a couple from Caress of Steel, and Presto too. Personally the only song I really cant stand by Rush is Dog Years. Its so corny and just too silly.
Nah. Lots of great bands out there, the sounds and styles have evolved into all kinds of different varieties. There are bands like Opeth, and Gojira, or Mastodon, and all these other modern progressive heavy bands that carry on the torch Rush lit decades ago. Let's keep the ball rolling.
Too bad Q107 (Corus Entertainment) is pretty much top 40 pop Rock. Sad to see the format change over the years. I hate hearing Barenaked Ladies on that station all the time and need to run to the button or dial to get away!
I can think of a lot of Rush songs that would sound good unplugged. As for rock not being dead I totally agree. That's one of the dumbest things music journalists and others say about rock these days. No, it doesn't necessarily have the mainstream acceptance it once did but to be honest it doesn't need it. Just about any genre with more than ten fans can surive and thrive these days because of the internet.
I got a ? for them on side one of 2112 at the end were it says all planets of the solar federation played backwards it says plan as day all sin for Satan not to mention the pentagram on the cover of the album coincendence I think not they sold out you can bet that
ged-" i feel sorry for him"
alex-"its only a tattoo"
ged-"but he cant get rid of it"
alex-"neither can you"
Lol
oh, he's just Ged huh...you guys are bros?
roman14032 that was the best conversation ever
!
Roasted
"The majority of our songs are pretty insane" and thats why Rush fans love Rush
One of the most talented bands on the planet.
'one of the most' , Eh, try the most.
@@craigmanning2439 I agree. Rush has always been my favorite band.
"He can't get rid of it...." "Yeah, neither can you" - I love these guys.
I actually love Tai Shan - it paints a great picture! :)
I was just going to write that, glad I scanned comments. Now there's two!
I thought he was going to mention, I think I'm going bald.
I agree. Have always loved Tai Shan. Beautiful song. Never understood why they don't like it or are embarrassed by it.
They don't like Tai Shan, but I Think I'm Going Bald is fine?
Agreed. Love that song. It fits in with the rest of the album. I can think of way worse songs of theirs.
I love Tai Shan!!!!
"High on the sacred mountain
Up the seven thousand stairs
In the golden light of autumn
There was magic in the air"
I agree, and Hold Your Fire was a really odd album, there were lots of tracks that were pretty 'poppy', they changed with the times and I know many people didn't like it but Hold Your Fire and Presto I thought were great albums, you don't always need ten time changes or be seeing about incomprehensible things.
I think a folky tribute version of that should be done beacsue I always hear them putting it down, although right now China is kind of not the same as it was in the eighties.
Geddys voice finally shot after all those years yet he still laughs ... So down to earth and ruling
+MICHAEL LENTINI i think he said it was early laryngitis at a new york radio station
Ive a music biography junky for years. And every interview i see with Rush. They are so laid back, joking, and never show an ego. i wonder if these guys are really like this. Im sure they are. humble musical gods.
Neil Tipton kings among men
Truly great musicians don't have to brag. They just play.
I fucking LOVE "Tai Shan" and HYF is forever my 3rd favorite RUSH album (behind "Permanent Waves" and CoS). Could listen to it on repeat all day. Come at me.
Totally agree. I’ve been listening to it nonstop, only song I can’t seem to learn to love is High Water.
You’re not alone good Sir
Never been a big fan of hyf but idk its rush and all rush slaps
@@jamesgoulet2254 I love high water… tai Shan I can listen to. HyF is a great album.
Greatest band ever!
Lifeson is the funniest.
I love Rush. They are one of
my favourite rock bands.
Geddy, Alex & Neil all have
great musicianship. They
are very humble people.
Best band of all time.
I love "Tai Shan" and, although I know they are only being honest, it always bums me out when they single it out as a song they don't think stands the test of time. Great song!
I totally agree with you. I love Hold Your Fire for every song. Tai Chan changes it up a bit. cool they made it sound Chinese
Cheers, Netboy Steve! Alex does some great clean and percussive electric guitar work (bathed in delay and reverb) on "Tai Shan", kind of reminiscent of his playing on songs like "Territories" and "Mystic Rhythms". Yeah, HOLD YOUR FIRE is a sonic delight.I love that record as well.
+GiantSpaceMonkey you have to watch all this analysis stuff with grain of salt. the more you hear their side the initial magic starts to dissipate
Oh, I totally agree. DEspite what it may appear here, I really don't take this stuff THAT seriously. Also, I'm fascinated by what the guys like/don't like from their past catalog and I'd rather know than not know.It's just a big surprise sometimes (what they do or don't recall with a sense of fondness).
Agreed!
Tai Shan brought the very deepest part of the spirit to light which in turn shines brighter than old Sol. Having been a fan since THE very beginning I
cannot think of a single Rush song that makes me cringe, even a tiny little bit. Be so very proud my brothers cuz you ROCKED the rock world...
I Think I'm Going Bald?
@@gmanthatguy3937 Listen to that song again. But imagine that they called it, "So Involved With Life". Listen to the guitar groove, and the great drumming. Great song, bad title.
The Wizards of Willowdale. Untouchable. As Jack Black said, "their bottle of rocket sauce is always full" #BrushWithRush
One of the best bands EVER
Good for you Geddy! I wish more people would speak up and let everyone know that rock and roll is NOT dead! It is far too good to die. What would take its place? Rap? Hip-hop? What a boring and psychotic world that would be! In fact, I feel sorry for kids anymore. When we grew up in the 60s and 70s there was almost an endless parade of great rock coming out of your local radio stations. Now they are stuck with the cynical calculations of the corporations that own them all. Yuck!!!
Kiss is Dead Mr. Simmons
geddy has such a soothing speaking voice
They both do.
Ged seems really chill.
I love Tai Shan! For me it's a killer song!
dude, i love Tai Shan !
There will be rock!
Always!
I love Tai Shan!! A Great song!! I understand why these guys dont like it though. I love it though.
They are, and always have been, so funny and normal…..true ambassadors of Canadian 🇨🇦
I LOVE GEDDY’S RESPONSE AT THE END
Yeah but 7 years later I think Gene was right though.
I heard in a different interview that their most disliked song was Entre Nous. Makes sense because they’ve only regularly played it on 1 tour. It’s still a good song IMO
I love Entre Nous
Tai Shan stands the test of my time.
I'd have to say that Rush itself is a good example of how Rush changes. When he talks about 'magnitude' of rock in the 'seventies and eighties', in the eighties even RUsh's version of 'rock' was very different than the seventies, and in the nineties it was closer to the seventies.
These guy are just straight out amazing. I love the way they contradict Gene Simmons shallow statement.
DUDES! Tai Shan is one of my favorites! Definitely NOT a mistake!
Ive always been curious to know what the other songs are that they don’t really like.
Geddy said in one interview that he cringes when he hears lakeside park. In fact, im pretty sure he's said that he dislikes caress of steel in general, which confuses the hell out of me because I adore that album lol
@@vincefosterd same here! At least they played lakeside park at R40
Tai Shan is very cool ! Nothing wrong about it ! Would sound great live !
I LOVE Tai Shan!
Lmao,the way they both look at each other with a cheeky smile and both say Tai Shan.
I just had a listen,my Hold The Fire cd has a layer of dust on it now,I remember loving Time Stand Still from that album,it was a very positive record,very different from the dark records, Caress Of Steel and Hemispheres.
Hemispheres still blows me away.
I knew they were going to say Tai Shan.
Gene Simmons is dead!
Rush brought a lot of brains to music. When most bands were singing about "getting laid" these guys choose to go the other way. They are the bill gates of rock and roll.
Please don't compare Rush to Bill Gates--it's insulting to Rush.
Their music was sophisticated.
@@bachandl1 Even more so now... The guy is the most evil evil can be.
Yeah, can't see ANY way thats a compliment or even analagous. Rock is not dead, its just not the same anymore. Radio rock is still playing the same stuff from the eighties for some reason. Rock CAN be as simple as punk, thats people like the Ramones who know only one or two chords. There's no way there aren't a million bands putting out stuff, its just not on radio for mass consumption.
lol, I have to agree, I love Tai Shan. the Entire hold your fire was great. I know ged and Alex try to beat around the bush with Neil because of the touring. I know they both have that burning desire to still do it. c'mon Neil one more tour :-)
Hey the guys been threw hell and back again. He's thinking of himself and his wife and young daughter. He's been threw it once before the touring and missing his other daughter, who sadly died. I guess he doesn't want to miss Olivia growing up.
Rock on....!!!!
just kicked Gene Simmons comment right off the map! lol
These 2 legends are quite remarkable...however I personally have to disagree with "Tai Shan" being a song they wish they hadn't recorded. Absolutely love that song!! Of course she asked for their opinion, not mine.
I have some seriously deep questions, that I don't think anyone would ever ask.
I think Tai Shan is a beautiful song I love it dearly
rush la mejor y mas grande banda del universo
Si, Es la verdad!
Rock may not be as mainstream, but its far from dead. Some of the best rock music ever is being created right now, you just have to know where to find it!
I thought one of them would say “dog years” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can imagine Alex as the leader of a Spanish country...
I love tai shan
+bachyutt I can't say I love it but it's far from their worst song. Those guys are bitter for not getting to go on Neil's vacation!;-)
+VoodooCrab from your opinion, what is there worst song?
+Bryan Van Ek There are a few songs on Snakes and Arrows I can't listen to.
+bachyutt its more like a Chinese tourism jingle.
I love snakes and arrows
Lifeson is so funny.
Rush fan for decades (1977) I had never heard Tai Shan...Just checked out on YT with the lyrics...Yeah, it does suck...:)...Nah, Just Neil having a moment...
I doubt the interviewer even knew who John Rutsey was when they said it was his brother that came up with the band name.
Replace the over the top synth work on Tai shan with acoustic guitar and it would be great. But yeah, it sounds date and very 80's b grade movie soundtrackish.
Alex piece of hair sticking up makes him look like Denise the menise
I love tai Shan!!!
Rock is dead they say. Long live rock.
WHO'S BETTER?
If rock is dead then bands like Kiss killed it
I was waiting for Geddy to ridicule Alex for his hair sticking up
The last question, "Is rock music dead?" is debatable. If it were dead, then the bands that have been around forever wouldn't go on tour. They wouldn't make any money and nobody would be paying today's exorbitant ticket prices to see them; especially since there is plenty of footage on youtube. The younger generations just need to be exposed to it and they'll see that it was/is far better than the garbage that's been listened to in the last 25 years.
Well by you calling the last 25 years of music garbage then technically you're saying it is dead or is that there was some sort of dead zone!
I mean I'm certainly not going to defend everything of the last 25 years but I will say I'm more of the mindset that I seem to believe that there is an order generation that's primarily stuck on itself and that's why their bands are selling tickets!
Is it good music yes I'm not going to deny that or even attempt to argue that it isn't good music however I can also say that like all fashions of the past including pop cultures of the past eventually it will end up on the scrap heap of society!
So it's like periodically once in a blue moon I will listen to muddy Waters I'm 37 but muddy Waters probably hasn't been super relevant since the 50s and maybe a couple of comeback shows and the 60s!
So you can still listen to it it's still there it's not going to go anywhere really it's just unless you yourself happen to conduct a little research and come by it nobody older may feel compelled to tell you about it honestly the majority of music that I have discovered since I was a kid my father never even heard of however my ambitions of discovering a lot of music as actually turned him on to the idea that there's more out there than just Black Sabbath Rush led Zeppelin Hendricks etc!
Though I will say I did get encouragement from him after all he did happen to show me big band music though he is an avid Black Sabbath fan so everybody can sort of go and listen to the other stuff and get something out of that!
So when I say it'll end up on the scrap heap of society I just mean that it's not going to be current did someday we're all going to look at TH-cam videos and go wow too bad those guys aren't around!
You know it's like within the past decade it's become acceptable that in the grocery store or even at home Depot you're hearing a lot of this music whereas somewhere in the 90s I remember is a kid joking wouldn't it be cool if they played led Zeppelin or something at the grocery store or over at the lumber yard?
Well now it's happening and I thought it was cool at first and it really is in one respect but on the other hand it's kind of like now it's background music at the grocery store I mean look at it from that perspective and you can't help but laugh!
Not trying to be disrespectful the lady conducting the interview, but it this is the type of subpar interview you get when you don't do your home work as an interviewer . On the Rush fandom scale, I consider myself an 8 or 9, but in the grand scheme on things I am probably a 3-4 compared to their hardcore fans. Even I know they've been saying for years that Tai Shan is one of their least favorite songs they've recorded. Rush unplugged? Come one, a power trio driven by thunderous bass and drums doing an acoustic session? I'm sorry, I get that she is younger, but do better than just trolling the internet for questions to ask the band- or do a little research and listen to some their music. You can completely tell from their responses that they did not consider the questions very thought provoking or interesting. The only good question I thought she asked that you couldn;t Google was advice for aspiring musicians- But somewhat redudnant, because obviously what was done 50 years ago has little bearing on how things are done today.
"There will be rock"
What’s the interviewers name?
Will there ever be a sequel to 2112???
4224.
Rush rox.
Rush is the greatest. We are life long fans. We are also musicians and if you have the time please come by our channel and check out our cover of "Subdivisions". It would mean the world to us. Hope you dig it. Thanks much
I am Cartman Glee and ah will lahk ‘Tai Shan’ if I wahn!!
You can tell Alex is sporting a hairpiece here. His dad was bald. Figured it would catch up to him. Love him regardless.
Baldness comes from the mother's side of the family.
Hah, knew he was going to say Tai Shan. Im interested in some of the other choices. I get the feeling he wouldve said a couple from Caress of Steel, and Presto too. Personally the only song I really cant stand by Rush is Dog Years. Its so corny and just too silly.
With the retirement of Rush...sadly yes, rock is now dead.
Not officially retired.
Ray Jonas I just hope they do something next year for the 50th anniversary of Rush
Nah. Lots of great bands out there, the sounds and styles have evolved into all kinds of different varieties. There are bands like Opeth, and Gojira, or Mastodon, and all these other modern progressive heavy bands that carry on the torch Rush lit decades ago. Let's keep the ball rolling.
It will Spring backup and I'm trying to do that with my band
Ray Jonas yesiagree
Too bad Q107 (Corus Entertainment) is pretty much top 40 pop Rock. Sad to see the format change over the years. I hate hearing Barenaked Ladies on that station all the time and need to run to the button or dial to get away!
Tai Shan has a beautiful melody !... " Bad song ", doesn ´t exist.. In Rush catalogue....Sorry Geddy...You ´re a bad boy ! ( lol ).
* sigh *
Rush ANSWERS
I love Tai Shan! They dissed it right off!!! No longer my favourite band!!!
I can think of a lot of Rush songs that would sound good unplugged. As for rock not being dead I totally agree. That's one of the dumbest things music journalists and others say about rock these days. No, it doesn't necessarily have the mainstream acceptance it once did but to be honest it doesn't need it. Just about any genre with more than ten fans can surive and thrive these days because of the internet.
dear Gene Simmons: I haven't bought kiss since I was 13. I still buy Rush. Try being creative, Gene.
Who cares what Gene Simmons says or thinks...
He's right.
Gene Simmons thinks rock is dead or dying cause his music isn't quite standing the test of time.
Poor Geddy sounds like he’s sick.
Yeh Tai Shan is not great Emotion Detector bad.....
Chris Pinto emotion detector is great idk what your talking about
I got a ? for them on side one of 2112 at the end were it says all planets of the solar federation played backwards it says plan as day all sin for Satan not to mention the pentagram on the cover of the album coincendence I think not they sold out you can bet that
least fave rush song?
most everything from Presto.
horrible album.
and yes....they are my favorite band.
Presto is their most underrated album
i was just listening to it today, there are some gems and some disappointments. overall still a great album i'd say
Superconductor is a great song
Presto is underrated album for me, so disagree in your opinion.
Holy shit I love Presto