my dad had 2 friends who passed away in this tragic accident. my mother and my father were in college at this time. it's so crazy how things can escalate from a fun gathering to a gravesite so soon.
As someone with HSE background, this is a typical case of ignoring near misses. Several minor injuries and two non-lethal collapses should have flashed a red light with someone at the University management and get the kids a proper civil engineer, I am sure many of the alumni would proudly assume this role. It could even be a proper semester project for a group of civil engineer students under the supervision of a skilled professional. The kids and people who supported them with equipment and material are not to blame, we have all been there, youthful enthusiasm, giving yourself for a common cause and having fun, heck the event sounds great, I would have certainly participated if I was a student. I work in the medium / high voltage grid industry and we always encourage our fitters to pro-actively report near misses and safety concerns and never punish those who admit they made a mistake when they report such a near miss. The harder part was to educate the old school managers that near misses are not there to blame someone, but rather to look into how to make things different as to prevent a more tragic reoccurrence
As a HSE guy you would not have wanted to be there surrounded by hundreds of wound up semi-drunk frat and corps jocks. I live thirty minutes away and they were an nussance clear out here.
I am a TAMU graduate and can tell you that this was a case of worse than ignoring near misses. Rather, it was a case of active ignorance of the problems and previous incidents, some of which resulted in death and severe injuries. This is a classic example of the consequences of "group-think".
@@highping1786 maybe not now, but back in my college days, I was a wild child myself, many a stupid ideas were pulled through...TBH, it was the fatality investigations over the years that have taught me sense and responsibility, nasty stuff, should be part of the education system, you don't realise the severity until you experience and see it first hand.
Every year, A&M people talked about how the bonfire was a case of pushing luck and that it was a miracle there wasn't a disaster. And every year, people naturally wanted to make the bonfire a little more incredible and push their luck a little further. This disaster was 100% the university not being the adult in the room.
@@RandomAxeOfKindnessI agree. And why they wouldn’t have some of there own civil engineering students supervised by professors involved in the build is astonishing!
A big thing that is often misssed is the change in student demographic. Originally you had a lot of student who worked on farms and in building from the time they were children.They were well versed in building safety and engineering. Over time there were fewer and fewer students with that experience and more who had enthusiasm and just an oral history of building this particular structure to help them along. This was brought to the attention of administration by 2 alumni and they suggested having engineering grad students design and supervise. They weren't taken seriously.
More importantly I think, is that in the years prior to the collapse, the stack was built entirely by the Corp of Cadets with Seniors supervising. And no drinking was allowed either. Things apparently changed during the 90s.
I didn't get choked up until the end when they showed the memorial, those doors facing the hometown of each victim is an amazing idea to pay proper tribute
My cousin was one of the injured. He broke his back but luckily did not lose his ability to walk. Still, he was never the same mentally after the incident. I think he felt a lot of survivor's guilt and felt like he was partially to blame since he was one of the people working there when it collapsed. Thank you for covering this.
@@alvinseaside7683 My gosh, how fortunate, just one of those moments of lucky timing in life. I hope he is doing well despite the trauma he no doubt experienced.
It’s not surprising given A&M is a quite unusual school. They have a tradition for literally everything, so when one of those traditions ends in tragedy, they’re gonna go all out on the memorial
It's designed as a memorial should be but rarely is: remembering those lost instead of the designer's art installation. Most poignant I've seen. Well done, A&M.
@@witchyflowerchild7201 Yes, we do... And, Did.. I hate that the end of the on-campus bonfire ended with this.. If I had been on the pile and perished, I would have absolutely have wanted it to continue.. I'm pretty sure the 12 who died would as well.. And the injured..
As someone who lives in Europe, I've not heard of this. This channel does such a great job in telling the World of such local tragedies that you wouldn't hear of otherwise.
I am Aggie class of 2000 and have watched your channel since the beginning. Thank you for the extremely thorough research and thoughtful presentation of the Aggie traditions. The Aggie bonifre collapse happened on my senior ring day, the day I was scheduled to pick up my senior ring. It was a somber day and I will never forget the silence all across campus that week. After we met in Reed Arena and the structural collapse was explained, everyone in the arena just sat there silently when they were done. After a few minutes the crowd spontaneously began to sing Amazing Grace together and hold hands and cry. I have mixed feelings about the continuation of bonfire off campus, but I graduated and left, so I'm not involved in it anymore. TAMU is one amazing school and it's a privilege to have graduated from there.
As a current Aggie student I was surprised to see a video documenting this, and I am grateful that a channel of your size and reach has shared information about this fairly obscure tragedy, which a fair amount of people outside the sphere of A&M have never heard about. One of the things that makes Texas A&M a truly special place is that there are now Aggies such as myself who were not even alive yet when this tragedy occurred, but, much like with other traditions we have such as Silver Taps and Muster, we take the time to honor our fellow Aggies who have passed away for whatever the reason may be, even if we never knew them, and Bonfire '99 is no exception. In this busy world, it makes me stop and be grateful for life and the friendship of other Aggies and to not take it for granted.
I remember this happening. It was state-wide news here in Texas for days as the stories of both victims and survivors emerged. Tim Kerlee, the last and youngest victim to die, is of special note ... his was badly injured, but alive atop the pile. He delayed his own rescue and treatment, instead directing first responders to other trapped students. An eerie photograph was captured of this process. It shows Kerlee lying atop the logs, his legs clearly bent in an unnatural way, with firefighters sifting through rubble beneath him, attempting to free someone else. Kerlee succumbed to his injuries in the hospital two days after the collapse; his parents at his side.
I always think about Tim Kerlee also, helping to direct the rescue efforts from his vantage despite his clearly crushed pelvis. Not all the ones that died had that chance/choice. I do think that most Aggies in his place would do the same.
I remember watching on the news the reaction of UT students as they learned of this terrible tragedy. As far as I can remember there has always been a rival between Texas A&M and UT, and each side performed ceremonies and boasted of how they were going to beat the other team. It was all in the spirit of college football, but it was so touching when the UT students' reactions were of crying and tears, and the rival between the two universities was suddenly overshadowed by the feeling of loss of fellow students (in the broad sense).
I made a fort as a kid by removing the center stack of a woodpile. The neighbor and I were in it when his dad walked over to get us for lunch and as he got near, it started collapsing. He ran over and held it open as 4 or 5 cords of wood heaved-in and rained down on us. If he hadn't have walked over, I probably wouldn't be here to write this. That only gave my friend 10 more years, he was gone before he was 20. Slid on an icy curve into an oncoming semi. I've been thinking about him a lot lately, not sure why, he's been gone for a long time. Can't really forget when my wallet chain for decades has been his goth necklace. His parents buried him on the same curvy road along the river so you go past both spots all the time. Sux hard. F.
He is probably just letting you know that he is thinking about you as well. It's cool that you have his necklace as your wallet chain. RIP to your friend. Great timing Dad!!
Strange how a lifeforce can resonate through the decades like that. My Father and my best friend both had their ashes scattered on a landmark I can see pretty much anywhere I go. F.
I met Chris Breen about 2 months before this happened. We played on a baseball team together in Austin Texas. I remember he didn't show up for a game one night and I was bent out of shape because we needed him bad. The other guys saId he was working on the Aggie Bonfire. Well, at the next game we got word that he was one of the 12 killed on the stack that night. It really hit us hard and put into perspective how fragile life is. Chris had actually graduated about 2-3 years earlier from A&M and went back to help with the build every year.
It didn't hit me until I saw the memorial. Whoever designed that is wonderful - having the portals face towards their hometown - that got me in the feels.
Given the lax "oversight", I'm far more surprised that the bonfires lasted 90+ years without killing anyone than that one of eventually claimed several lives, especially given the seeming size of them.
For the first 70+ years, the engineering students built the bonfire. Then A&M allowed fraternities on campus in the 1970s, and the frat boys gradually started to take over the job.
They were h u g e. I got to see several Aggie bonfires in the 70's. As a child I was amazed at the size of the fires but the crowds singing was the best most memorable moments for me.
There wasn’t “lax oversight”. Engineering students and staff literally engineered it. The collapse was caused by a faulty centerpole. Student Bonfire is still an active organization, and we still build and burn Bonfire every year. The only difference is that the university doesn’t officially condone it, nor has it been held on campus since the Fall.
@@MrShobar Indeed, it was. However, events like this, Triangle Shirtwaist, Our Lady of Angels, Worcester Cold Storage, The Station, Coconut Grove, and an incredibly long list of fires in the US are taught specifically *because* they demonstrate, in spectacular and horrifying ways, how decisions great and small, during design, construction, maintenance or remodel, can have catastrophic consequences. As this video describes, subsequent Aggie bonfires have been closely monitored and highly regulated. Other major fires have instigated massive changes in building codes, construction materials and techniques, and fundamental updates to firefighting operations. Sadly, history shows that it often takes numerous deaths to affect change.
Because most firefighters are actually 'Fire and RESCUE' - they often spend even more time cutting people out of car wrecks than they do putting out fires. This is exactly the kind of thing they would get called out to...@@MrShobar
Actually Andy; this and every Fascinating Horror video, exemplifies the fact that nothing is more valuable in this temporal life than to know you are eternally "right with God" by grace thru faith apart from the human effort(s) of religion e.g., traditions, rites, rituals and ceremony [Gal 2 v16]. For these are the very efforts God rejects [Mark 7]. *Truth is a stubborn thing.*
Based on the previous non-lethal collapses, this was an accident waiting to happen. Lack of oversight KILLS people. The account about the voices growing fainter and fainter as time went on gave me chills. The memorial for the dead is really beautiful and touching, though.
If you go through each portal you can read about each of the 12 Aggies that passed. To me, the story of Tim Kerlee Jr. is the most inspiring, as he exemplified not only what it means to be an Aggie, but to be a friend to those around him. He personified John 15:13 by willingly giving up his life such that he could help point out others that were in need of rescue. No more fitting way to be remembered as the 12th Aggie to die on that night.
Well, we can all appreciate the growing nanny-state providing ever more oversight. And for every incident like this, where it may well be needed, there are hundreds of banal things where it is not (but we get it anyway).
@@BuddyLee23 "oversight is only important for the 0.01% of times when things go horribly wrong so I shouldn't have to be bothered by it in everyday life"
As an Aggie, thank you for this thoughtful, detailed, and unbiased analysis. I particularly appreciate the care you took to show the historical background behind the tradition, as that was a key component in understanding the importance of the event.
I always feel for the rescuers and responders of disasters like these. I cannot imagine the trauma that these poor people faced given that they were only students and on top of that the victims being friends and fellow students. My heart goes out to them and the families.
It's amazing that the tradition lasted as long as it did before there were fatalities. As a Texan I vaguely remember the incident but had forgotten about it until now. Thanks for covering it.
I'm so glad you covered this. I remember this at the time, but this is the first comprehensive video I've seen covering the whole thing. 25 years ago, time flies.
I've never watched one of these videos and not only remembered the event from the news, but was there when it happened so this was very eerie and had a rush of tough memories associated. Thank you for the respectfulness done to this story, especially after reading some of these comments. I went to A&M the year bonfire fell; I had friends who participated in Cut (they'd get up at 5am - I often had intentions to go, but it was too early, and I was often up too late), I had friends who were supposed to be building that night but the schedule changed so in addition to knowing most of those who died they had survivor's guilt of thinking it should have been them. I remember those cranes being instead used to help lift white-sheet covered bodies. One of the things I remember that is bizarre and surreal is that we had been watching the build before the collapse on the TV - there were a lot of us that were just heading to bed when we got word it fell. Dozens from each dorm filed out with their hard hats to go help but at first it didn't feel real; what do you mean it fell? We literally just saw it and it was fine. Yes, it absolutely was a ridiculous tradition that got out of control but at the time it was something the students took pride in being a part of and really did think they were taking seriously even as yes they often were exhausted and sometimes drinking. One of the sayings often tossed around at the time was 'from the outside looking in you can't understand it, from the inside looking out you can't explain it' - I know it can be difficult to look back at the student body at the time (me included) being absolutely livid that it was being shut down. It felt like a slap in the face to the kids who died even though looking back now as an adult it makes perfect sense. I know it can be easy to be dismissive but these were literally 12 kids killed - even if every single one of them was drunk and a jerk (which they weren't) that is still a tragedy. Looking back we can see the complacency, looking from the outside we can see why continuing the tradition feels disrespectful - but at the time, NOT continuing the tradition felt disrespectful. Having the crowds of reporters swarm the campus making it seem inevitable due to being nothing but drunk kids without supervision felt disrespectful. So yes, people in the comments, while I do understand that it feels obvious - please be mindful these lives were kids. They were teenagers, and had their entire future ahead of them. And even for those of us who didn't personally know those 12 - it was teenagers who had classes with them, teenagers who were hurt, teenagers who had to deal with the guilt of being part of something that crushed other teenagers they had known and interacted with families of. And being able to look back now, YES the school absolutely should have not let it get that big; they absolutely should have had processes and supervision in place to prevent something exactly like this from happening.
You said it perfectly. I was class of 2002 & heavily involved in Bonfire. What you said was true about the schedule change. Our dorm was supposed to be out there that night but they had changed the schedule just two days before it collapsed. I dealt with the weight of that guilt. Thank you for explaining it so well. Some of these comments are just 🤦🏼♀️ Luckily it’s not the majority of comments. We were blinded by the fact that it was an Aggie tradition; one that had been going on for decades. We couldn’t even imagine in our teenage brains that something even REMOTELY this tragic could happen. And that Aggie saying is still so true. It’s very hard to explain to someone who wasn’t there. How much it all meant to everyone. Still saddens me that this happened. I just wish they could’ve had more oversight. My much younger siblings graduated from A&M. It’s just always been so different there without bonfire. I wish it would’ve been safely done 😓❤️🙏🏻🕊👍🏻
Excellent comment. It is hard for people sometimes to see past the pride of a thing when they're in it, and there is nothing wrong with that as a moral issue; pride is a powerful force and if it is in something that brings good- a community that values itself and others- it is a good and decent thing. I find your journey, in terms of how your feelings on it, to be incredibly understandable. As kids- and they were kids- and you were a kid- while we understand "death" I don't know we truly appreciate, or can appreciate, the utter tragedy and permanence of loss. It's only as we get older and experience a bit more of life and live the "and then what happens" of that life that we can recognize that losses do not end with the moment, they do not end in a few weeks, years, or decades. They cause tremendous, lasting and new damage for everyone who cared about the people who passed and for the people who care for those people. The actual near-term impact of the tragedy is just the beginning of a harm that will continue to harm for a very, very, very long time. There are Moms, Dads, brothers, sisters, never-met nephews and nieces, friends never known who live in a world adjacent to those hurt by this who are also shaped to some degree, and it is with them every day in a circle that grows and grows and grows until one day, very far into the future, it fades away. You get older, you have kids of your own; you pray that the tragedy of a life cut short young doesn't touch you. You appreciate it more when it doesn't and pray your luck holds.
I guarantee that, to a man, the unfortunate students that died would all wish the bonfire tradition to continue. And continue on campus as an official university event rather than off campus. If they can't get straighter logs like in the past, putting a layer of plywood between tiers would substantially stabilize the stack and avoid another tragedy.
I am a Former Student (there are no Ex-Aggies) and worked on the Bonfire in the mid-70’s. Whether loading logs onto a flatbed in some landowner’s fields or wiring up bundles of branches for placement on the structure, there was a massive sense of Teamwork and Camaraderie. I felt a lot of pride as the burn took place, joining in the singing and hoping that the outhouse would stand until after midnight. I was devastated when I heard of this tragedy, even 20 years after I had left the University. This was an excellent synopsis, very respectfully done. Thank You.
A friend of mine was a football player at TA&M when this happened. He said that the sheer scale of the rescue was stunning. The collapse was almost 80 feet across, and there were people working rescue at literally every single square foot of edge, constantly moving and taking away debris. He said that when he finally stopped moving, it was because there were too *many* hands and the structural engineers had to slow people down or risk further collapse. He said standing in that waiting crowd was like being in a bee hive, everyone humming and pointing toward every sound so they could move toward the call.
The year 2000 was my freshman year at Texas A&M. The melancholy mood was palpable all across the campus. Everyone was haunted by the memory of the collapse and those lost in this tragedy. You could see it written across everyone's faces and in their mannerisms. Everyone was also bummed by the loss of one of the most prized traditions. The bonfire was forbidden by the University. Everyone was informed that if they attempted to make an off campus bonfire, they would be expelled. There were still off campus bonfires made, however, and they grew larger as time went by.
@umadbra Actually, it was televised nationwide. The people of your small, isolated village may not have known about it, but the rest of the country did. It is pretty sad when a person such as you displays such a blatant disregard for human life. You should be ashamed of yourself.
@@harryjones5260the new bonfires are supervised and managed by actual engineering firms and they’re designed without the key faults of the prior bonfires. The reason it is not done on campus is because the university’s insurance won’t allow it.
I requested this one! I’m so glad you could get around to it, Tysm! One detail you left out is the football game itself. As you mentioned, the bonfire was traditionally burned the night before A&M played UT (followed by midnight yell). My dad was a student there at the time, and he said it was the most intense and emotional football game he’d ever been to. The footage from the half time show still makes him tear up. Instead of playing their usually fight songs, the A&M cadets marched in a silent “T” formation, and the UT band played “Amazing Grace.” It was huge moment of Texas unity given how intense their rivalry was. The Longhorns still put up a good fight, but the Aggies beat them 16-20!
How horrible. Those poor souls who were trapped and calling for help. Dear Lord. The memorial is beautiful and it is a nice tribute by you naming those who died. May they all Rest in Peace.
I was a freshman at the University of Texas when this happened, and it still breaks my heart all these years later. We were stoked for the game. The rivalry was in full swing, students from both schools were talking trash to each other, we were pranking each other's campus; it was just a jovial time and both schools were looking forward to the game between the biggest rivalry of the Big 12. The night that Bonfire collapsed, that rivalry went away. A bunch of students from UT made the drive from Austin to College Station to help. We held a fundraiser. They were our rivals, but they were also our Texas siblings. I still get goosebumps when I think about the reading of the Roll Call for the Absent after it happened. "Softly call the muster, Let comrade answer, “Here!” Their spirits hover ‘round us: As if to bring us cheer! Mark them "present" in our hearts, We’ll meet some other day. There is no Death, but Life Eterne For heroes such as they!" God Bless, my Aggie brethren. (We're still gonna kick your butts when we join the SEC next year!)
Actually the logs available for the build were becoming too crooked and forked since straight pine was becoming rare. This allowed space for one tier to telescope down into the tier below. Logs wedged and broke whatever wire and cable restraints that had been used. This type of build would be relatively safe with ideal straight logs as proven in years earlier. ( I'm an engineer with a lot of assorted failure analysis and have watched past bonfires with my son who graduated fro A&M.)
PS: Straighter logs have much higher friction between them, particularly when wired or cabled together. This better resist a parallelogram type collapse and obviates any need for diagonal bracing.
This one hits way closer to home than most of these short documentaries do. Texas A&M grad here 😢. Wasn’t a student when this happened but did attend the candlelight vigil held at the memorial at 2:42AM on the 10th anniversary of the collapse to honor those who lost their lives.
Omg it sounds like a deadly game of Jenga - knowing which logs to remove without the logs around it collapsing. I'd never heard of this tragedy but that's why I love this channel. He explains why these things happen in an informative yet respectful way. Very sad state of affairs 😔
There is something so captivating about this channel, Fascinating Horror. The classic tune, Glass Pond, the gentleman who narrates and the overall delivery of the stories exceed every similar channel on youtube. Thank you FH for giving us this amazing content to enjoy. ❤❤❤❤❤ I greatly appreciate your weekly efforts.
Our narrator SURE sounds like Baltar from Battlestar Galactica (2nd gen), but as a retired audio engineer, what could I know? :) The work here is just amazing and caring.
lol omg, I have an old cassette recording my bro did of the audio portion of one of the 1976 Battlestar Galactica TV series. That was our "streaming" back in the day 😅 And I do a little voice-over work that is recorded on 6.0.5 Garageband and would make a pro like you want to claw your ears out it's so bad. 😂😂😂@@htos1av
One of my favorite things about your channel, is that you individually name the deceased in these tragedies. It's a really personal touch and I appreciate it.
i want to add to the Aggie ring tradition thing. there is a rite of passage called "ring dunking". a person drops their ring into a pitcher of beer, and then they chug the pitcher, and are supposed to catch the ring in their mouths. a significant number of people end up swallowing their ring.
As a Texan living close to College Station, this was a horrible tragedy for so many. These students did this for love, for pride and for heartfelt tradition. So many immediately started to condemn everyone associated with it. You are the first one I've seen that gave it the gravity and sensitivity it deserves as well as honor the spirit of those we lost. Thank you.
"...These students did this for love, for pride and for heartfelt tradition...". They're supposed to be getting an education! What part of getting an education involves participating and dying in a dangerously stupid "tradition"?
@@MrShobarcollege/university isn’t just about the education. It’s a whole experience. For many, it’s the first time they live away from home and start taking steps to adulthood. It’s about building a community, a network, and exploring new interests. For a lot of kids, it’s their first time meeting people who have the same educational interests or hobbies that they do. Lots of schools have rituals or traditions that have nothing to do with education but are time-honoured college experiences, like streaking at the football game. Nobody went into the bonfire wanting anyone to get hurt or die. This channel is full of people who miscalculated the danger in a situation until it was too late. Humans often learn through experiences. It’s tragic that so many young people died or were seriously injured trying to participate in a long-held tradition.
That's a pretty lame a $ $ tradition. Kill a bunch of tree, and create pollution by setting those trees on fire while partying and getting drunk. That's love and pride? No, that's pretty immature and totally lame. What end goal is that "tradition" supposed to accomplish?
@@MrShobar Ummm... College is preperatory for the real world and should be treated as such. Engineering is learned by doing this. So is teamwork. Are those not valuable traits to have for the real world? You sound like the new generation. Devoid of understanding these are necessary learned traits. Yes! Do these safely but, they are by no means not education.
@MrShobar If you ever have the chance, I hope you can visit the A&M campus, talk to students, and learn of the traditions they honor and why. It can be quite mind opening if one is capable of it. Look up any video on the Aggie Muster. You might take another look. Be safe!
I am a grad of University of Texas and I am saddened that this happened. School rivialery put aside this was a very big blow to those who call Texas A&M home
I'd like to express the amount of respect I have for the fact that you read the name of each victim who lost there life. It's such a subtle, yet massive way to give humanity to the story rather than it just being a story. Reading their names aloud means it was read aloud each time this video is played. I commend the sentiment..
Universities as places of higher education is a distant 3rd or 4th place priority for the admin. Football or basketball, research funding, ... - former academic
In the Netherlands at the Scheveningen beach, with new years it used to be a tradition between two neighborhoods to build the biggest campfire. As you can imagine, the competitiveness lead to the bonfires getting crazy high, until a few years ago it was a very windy night that led cinders being blown all over a large residential neighborhood. Luckily nobody died, but it started a lot of small fires that easily could have gotten out of hand.
These normally don't make me too torn up, but orienting the memorial statues to their hometowns really got me. Thank you for your well researched videos as always.
Thank you for posting in your video the names of the people who passed from the incident. Taking the time to do this really felt like you cared about those involved and weren't simply concerned about making revenue from a documentary. Much respect, friend.
As an Aggie. currently living in College Station, I can’t put into words what this video means to me and, I’m certain, all of the Aggie family. My father, mother, aunts, and uncle were all there that day. My uncle lost one of his Corps buddies. Here.
my brother is a freshman at a&m this year in the corps, and the bonfire memorial is a massive deal. i'm glad that they had so many people willing to help on the scene. it's a massive deal for not just aggies, but texans in general, so i thank you for covering it!
I clearly remember this as if it happened yesterday. Thank you from Aggie country for the thoughtful presentation of a painful tradgey. The names of each that lost their lives being read out was a kind touch. Again Thank You for a truly thoughtful remembrance of that sad day.
I'd known one of the 12 since I moved back to Texas in 5th grade, and we graduated high school the same year - he was one of the brightest and kindest folks in our school, and that's not just postmortem hyperbole. We all knew he was destined to be something special. I also was fortunate enough to be able to attend the 1998 Bonfire, just to check it out, and it was an experience that was wholly unique. I can understand why it was such a huge thing to the school, but at the same time, it took my sweet classmate from the world, and I just can't think of the event anymore without wondering what could've been if it hadn't been built at all that following year.
Another thing to mention is the football game that happened immediately after the collapse. Our greatest rivals, the University of Texas at Austin, held a memorial service at halftime that was deeply moving to Aggies everywhere. There is a recording on youtube. Texas A&M went on to narrowly upset Texas that day. The final minutes of that game may be the most emotional in the entire history of Texas A&M. Edit: Link to the halftime performance th-cam.com/video/9Bx_uQ7S790/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ZWgIpr-TWoQRxZhW
@@sunflowers730so many european soccer games have continued after deadly riots. In Brazil they literally continued a soccer match after a ref was beheaded. But yea, take any opportunity to bash America. 🤦
@@sunflowers730@sunflowers730 Same in France, we have our next football game against England after the 16 novembre paris attack, we didn't cancel it and the english sang La Marseillaise wirh us it was very moving
I’ve been watching this channel for years and I’m so glad you covered this! I went to Texas A&M and you covered our traditions very well. This was such a horrible tragedy and we still hold the vigil at 2:42am every November 18th
I worked on the bonfire build when I was a student at A&M in the 70s. I remember hearing about the collapse on my way to work that morning. It shocked me to my core. One thing many people do not know is that the Aggie student body is known as the "12th Man." And it is ironic that there were 12 Aggie students killed in the collapse.
One of the greatest examples of failure of an institution ever. I was in my teens and I remember this, it taught me to listen to myself and not trust those who are in charge when they’re being an idiot. Very sad, but a huge influence on me and a contributing factor to me still being alive.
I was at A&M 2 days before this happened. I was in High School in JROTC deciding if I wanted to join the corp of cadets and visited the cadets the weekend before the collapse. I remember the news story and the feeling of shock when I learned. During my visit I helped move some logs with the cadets who were building the bonfire. Fortunate I was not there when it fell.
It's amazing how avoidable almost every accident covered on this channel was. Human stupidity is remarkably dangerous but does make for fascinating storytelling.
I dont think this disaster showcases either though. It's incredible that different students have done this over a hundred times and not had a terrible collapse until '99.
@@SubvertTheState - It was only a matter of time as the stack kept growing every year. When you need local companies to donate cranes to make your bonfire.....it's gone too far.
@@SubvertTheStateonce you start using cranes to build a bonfire its starting to become stupid , they pushed their luck thinking they could build a bigger and bigger bonfire , it was always going to end in disaster, common sense went out the window in favour of bragging rights , the people allowing this stupidity to get to the stage cranes are used all have blood on their hands.
I’ve been watching this channel for a while now, but have to admit I was somewhat startled this came under your radar. I graduated from A&M in 1991, 8 years prior to the collapse and enjoyed going out to the bonfire every year I was there. As a student I didn’t know the bonfire was ENTIRELY student built, and rather assumed there was some professional supervision. After the collapse happened, my dad asked me: “did you ever work on that?” I just laughed. I would never have considered it although a few of my male friends worked on the chop (clearing trees). I’m surprised the school had let something like that continue on campus WITHOUT some sort of required professional input- particularly in our growing litigious society. All things said, the moratorium of the bonfire was inevitable. A sad tragic ending to what was originally made in fun.
Texas A&M was the first PUBLIC institution of higher learning in Texas. But Baylor University, a PRIVATE institution opened in 1846 as the first institution of higher learning in Texas
As an employee with USPS I recall that in the wee hours while we sorted mail in College Station some of us had our radios on listening to music. We all heard this loud crack and then a sound as something dropped. Deejays on the stations quickly stated that the bonfire had fallen. Very somber time after this. Weeks later I was working at both the Post Offices at the MSC and Northgate relieving the window clerks there for lunch. It was hard to fight back tears when parents of the deceased students would come by to close their child’s PO Box. As a graduate of Texas A&M Class of ‘81 this has made me reflect on this tragic event and how supportive and resilient we become at times like this. I’m still here in my 32nd year. Take care of each other.
A good friend of mine was supposed to work the "stack" at the time it collapsed. He decided to go drinking instead, which probably saved his life. He did lose a number of friends though. It was a truly horrendous accident.
My father is a die hard longhorn, but wells up with tears when he talks about the aggies and the 12th man: always ready to serve. Thank you for this video and helping us to remember those lost.
I am glad to see that the tradition still exists today. Would like to see the College man up and join back in with the ceremony. A tragedy should not be the end. it should be a lesson. Learn the lesson and make the appropriate changes that is what has made man successful. This cancelling of things because of injury or ego has got to stop.
It's so hard when a classmate dies, even if wasn't someone you knew well, it really hits you hard and stays with you... I can hardly imagine what it would be like to lose so many students all at once.
Agreed. Almost 30 years ago when I was in 3rd grade, a girl from another 3rd grade class who i didn’t know well, but saw her on a regular basis, was killed in a house fire. The following week the school held a memorial service for her. It was such a strange feeling.
Man it really sucks when celebrations and events turn into a tragedy be it the fault of the participants or the result of someone else in the past (like when a building is poorly designed and part of it collapses during a party) RIP to those that passed away from this accident.
Thanks for covering this one, FH. I was fifteen at the time and remember this being all over the news. I know there's a Charlie Minn documentary about this tragedy but his work's a bit exploitative for my taste. You show a lot more compassion and decency. There's nothing done for cheap shocks here. You handle tender subjects with care and responsibility (including the Hartford Circus Fire, which my grandmother survived), and it's much appreciated.
I hope you don’t take this the wrong way - because it’s a compliment from my perspective. As much as I love watching your videos, I really love sleeping to them. I’m super picky about what I’ll listen to at night and everything about your content is perfect.
Very well done. Accurate. I remember November 19, 1999. My sister called and said she was very sad at what happened. I didn’t know yet. It was my first time getting on the internet and I read stories and comments for hours as I cried in front of my new bride. I wouldn’t cry again for 19 years. The experience I had at Texas A&M was magical. I got goosebumps each time when I saw the campus as I drove from Houston while a student. When I was 24 I was watching the game on tv when the band marched and I got goosebumps. The announcer said if you’re an Aggie fan and you don’t have goosebumps then you have one foot in the grave. I could say so much but let me add that Aggies always wear their ring and if you meet a fellow Aggie (the ring is a giveaway) you HAVE TO shake hands. Incredible unity for life.
I heard about this after a huge bonfire (48 metres high, 157 feet) caused trouble in the Dutch seaside town of Scheveningen in 2019. Not a collapse but an uncontrolled fire with fortunately no casualties. They had bigger bonfires every year and it was mentioned that one might collapse like happened with the Aggie collapse.
Thanks for covering this little known accident. As a kid in the 90s I remember when this happened, and it's hard to find information about it. To give context, just a few years before was the Bonsai Pipeline waterslide collapse, then the Columbine massacre, then this. It was a lot of tragedy involving school aged young people seemingly happening back to back.
I'm just as interested in how the students apparently made off with an entire barn once they allegedly disassembled it, as the actual 1999 collapse. I hope there's some truth to that because, as sad as the collapse in 1999 was, the image of 1950s era Aggies showing up, tearing down a barn, then leaving is just hilarious to me. Then again this vid goes into a ton of details that the only other coverage I've seen (which was Modern Marvels) didn't bother going into and just gave a surface level overview
Modern Marvels did mention that the lumber used in the collapse year was more irregular in shape than the wood sourced in the previous years, meaning it couldn’t be packed as tightly which contributed to the instability of the structure.
Amish can raise a barn with a group of people pretty quick. There's a story that Shakespeare's company disassembled a whole theater that belonged to someone else and stole all the parts, reassembling it elsewhere for their new theater.
I had to do a architecture project on the Bonfire Memorial two years ago. We were supposed to explain all of the design choices that were made. It was the first time I went to the memorial, and it was surreal. I'm not big into Aggie Traditions, but I always appreciated this place--as well as things like Muster and Silver Taps. I cry very easily, and I can't even think about traditions like these without being on the verge of tears. They are just beautiful.
Minor not particularly important correction given the circumstances: A&M was preceded in opening by Baylor University by more than 30 years. A&M was the first *public* university in Texas.
That happened my freshman or sophomore year when the collapse occurred. I'm from Texas and had an athletic scholarship offer to A&M but went elsewhere. But I had several friends that were there and one of them was injured in the accident. That was a crazy event.
I'm a Texas A&M graduate. The date is November 18, 1999 at 2:42 am. Not the 19th. It's ingrained into most Aggie's minds forever. I'm disappointed that this very basic fact is incorrect.
As soon as I heard how the bonfire was being constructed, the inevitable impending doom hit home, and the question that sprang to mind was, where was the structural engineer needed to build it safely? A haunting tragedy I am unlikely to forget. RIP to the 12 students lost, and my thoughts go out to those injured too
Most “Red Pots”, the students chosen to build the bonfire, were seniors in the engineering program. Traditionally there were no blueprints, so instructions on how to build the bonfire were passed down orally. Somehow they made it 90 years with even sketchier designs without incident. It was a horrible and shocking tragedy.
I was attending another school but had friends who were engineering students at TAMU at the time. I remember worrying about them when I heard about the collapse because I always believed the engineering students and their professors were in charge of planning and construction. It’s always been surprising to me that there wasn’t better oversight given the strong engineering program there and that it was a University event.
In years prior to the collapse, the stack was constructed entirely by the Corps Of Cadets with experienced Seniors (Red Pots) overseeing construction. No non-Corp personnel, or "Non-Regs", were allowed on the stack, and no drinking was allowed. This apparently changed during the 90s to allow Non-Regs, and whatever else, on the stack. We see the sad result....
I'm an Aggie. Class of 2004. I happened to see the 1999 Bonfire Stack under construction, as a high schooler visiting the campus. Someone from the dorm I was staying at took a tour group out to the edge of the Polo Field. I recall that someone in the group looked at all the people climbing around on the logs without harnesses, and saying "that looks dangerous". Which our guide basically dismissed by saying that we'd done it for 90 years, and so far, so good.
I know it was a horrible tragedy, but I couldn't help laughing at the part where some students just straight-up stole an entire barn from some poor farmer.
Moved to college Station the year after the collapse, that was a tough year for everyone not having the bonfire for the first time in so long. A stark reminder of the tradition that was lost.
We still do this tradition, it did not end in 1999. It’s just off campus now and is much smaller than it used to be. Going there is unreal, even with its diminished size. Source: I’m Aggie Band class of 2023
In Sweden we have May Pyres... and~ I've NEVER seen one stacked. It's just a great big fire. That's the point. Not to shame the dead, but that stacking idea seems like a lot of extra work for not much payoff even if nothing goes wrong, TBH.
Better to just let a pyre be a pyre. Start making them more elaborate = prestige gets involved, and with no proper safety protocols, it's not about If an accident is going to happen, without When, and How bad. Such a sad, preventable case.
The memorial is top class 👏, the people who thought it up deserve a lot of respect , a lot of thought went into it , particularly putting the arches facing their hometown , thats a nice touch. I must admit if you can look down after death that would make me proud my university honoured me like that Very respectful
As an Aggie, thank you for doing this well. The campus holds a memorial every year on the 19th at 2:42am at the Memorial site to remember the fallen and it is a powerful event. Thousands come every year despite the time and no matter weather.
OMG. How many students, the smart ones, over the years looked at what was going on and said, OMG, this is clearly a tragedy waiting to happen, but no person 'in charge', students/faculty/administration, would really listen. My impression of Tx A&M is all negative. This and a boating accident with Aggie students, where they let the only hero of the group (who'd saved two of them) drown, paints a sad picture. And the fact that they couldn't engineer a way to extricate the victims, says something about the quality of the school as well. I can't imagine standing there watching the same baffoons who allowed that to happen be in charge of the rescue (non-rescue) process. I've been to disaster situations, and had to deal with horrible personalities, who were more ego oriented than anything else.
I’m from Texas when this happened it was such a big deal because the bonfires were a huge tradition and everyone wanted to go to at least one in your life and now like no one talks about it I wonder if the kids at A&M today even know about the bonfires. They had talked about keeping them going on private property but I haven’t heard about that in a while
I'm sure they do, and supposedly get professional help now, but a land owner is legally responsible for the people on their property. There might be financial consequences for things like this, insurance raises, etc.
Student Bonfire still happens. And candlelight vigils definitely happen every year at 2:42 am on November 18th (not the 19th as incorrectly stated in the video).
my dad had 2 friends who passed away in this tragic accident. my mother and my father were in college at this time. it's so crazy how things can escalate from a fun gathering to a gravesite so soon.
My uncle died, I was 7 at the time. It changed our family and our family dynamics forever: things were never the same after that.
I remember hearing of this tragedy, sorry for those that perished, but maybe a little more time in physics class...
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How despicable of you to try to humiliate the victim of a terrible tragedy.
12th man CULTure, RIP, not fair for him.
I was a freshman when this happened. I lost a good friend in the collapse. It took a lot to get over.
As someone with HSE background, this is a typical case of ignoring near misses. Several minor injuries and two non-lethal collapses should have flashed a red light with someone at the University management and get the kids a proper civil engineer, I am sure many of the alumni would proudly assume this role. It could even be a proper semester project for a group of civil engineer students under the supervision of a skilled professional. The kids and people who supported them with equipment and material are not to blame, we have all been there, youthful enthusiasm, giving yourself for a common cause and having fun, heck the event sounds great, I would have certainly participated if I was a student. I work in the medium / high voltage grid industry and we always encourage our fitters to pro-actively report near misses and safety concerns and never punish those who admit they made a mistake when they report such a near miss. The harder part was to educate the old school managers that near misses are not there to blame someone, but rather to look into how to make things different as to prevent a more tragic reoccurrence
As a HSE guy you would not have wanted to be there surrounded by hundreds of wound up semi-drunk frat and corps jocks.
I live thirty minutes away and they were an nussance clear out here.
I am a TAMU graduate and can tell you that this was a case of worse than ignoring near misses. Rather, it was a case of active ignorance of the problems and previous incidents, some of which resulted in death and severe injuries. This is a classic example of the consequences of "group-think".
@@highping1786 maybe not now, but back in my college days, I was a wild child myself, many a stupid ideas were pulled through...TBH, it was the fatality investigations over the years that have taught me sense and responsibility, nasty stuff, should be part of the education system, you don't realise the severity until you experience and see it first hand.
Every year, A&M people talked about how the bonfire was a case of pushing luck and that it was a miracle there wasn't a disaster. And every year, people naturally wanted to make the bonfire a little more incredible and push their luck a little further. This disaster was 100% the university not being the adult in the room.
@@RandomAxeOfKindnessI agree. And why they wouldn’t have some of there own civil engineering students supervised by professors involved in the build is astonishing!
I gotta say, that is one CLEAN memorial! Well designed, good meaning, It really shows the love and care that community has for eachother.
I thought the exact same thing immediately when I saw it.
"That's very nice, ma'am, but please keep your voice down. People are trying to mourn."
For us dummies in the back, could you expand on what you mean?please
Oh hey! So this is where you ended up after DWK retired.
I found it kinda eerie
Those empty white portals look like tombstones
A big thing that is often misssed is the change in student demographic. Originally you had a lot of student who worked on farms and in building from the time they were children.They were well versed in building safety and engineering. Over time there were fewer and fewer students with that experience and more who had enthusiasm and just an oral history of building this particular structure to help them along.
This was brought to the attention of administration by 2 alumni and they suggested having engineering grad students design and supervise. They weren't taken seriously.
Good point
Also is the fact that they kept building it higher and higher without understanding what they were doing.
@@ka2438 While also drinking
Modern academia can not accept the fact it is a shadow of its once great self.
More importantly I think, is that in the years prior to the collapse, the stack was built entirely by the Corp of Cadets with Seniors supervising. And no drinking was allowed either. Things apparently changed during the 90s.
I didn't get choked up until the end when they showed the memorial, those doors facing the hometown of each victim is an amazing idea to pay proper tribute
I had the same reaction.
My cousin was one of the injured. He broke his back but luckily did not lose his ability to walk. Still, he was never the same mentally after the incident. I think he felt a lot of survivor's guilt and felt like he was partially to blame since he was one of the people working there when it collapsed. Thank you for covering this.
My cousin had just come down right before the collapse. He was on one of those rests/breaks he spoke of.
@@alvinseaside7683 My gosh, how fortunate, just one of those moments of lucky timing in life. I hope he is doing well despite the trauma he no doubt experienced.
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@@RHR-221b Really ?
@RHR-221b, what an absolutely asinine and idiotic statement.
A well designed and considered monument for such an unusual tragedy.
agreed, it's a beautiful memorial even as memorials go
It’s not surprising given A&M is a quite unusual school. They have a tradition for literally everything, so when one of those traditions ends in tragedy, they’re gonna go all out on the memorial
It's designed as a memorial should be but rarely is: remembering those lost instead of the designer's art installation. Most poignant I've seen. Well done, A&M.
That monument was amazing and so respectful.
Put's to shame small plaques or silly artworks for even greater calamities, air crashes for example.
@@witchyflowerchild7201 Yes, we do... And, Did.. I hate that the end of the on-campus bonfire ended with this.. If I had been on the pile and perished, I would have absolutely have wanted it to continue.. I'm pretty sure the 12 who died would as well.. And the injured..
As someone who lives in Europe, I've not heard of this. This channel does such a great job in telling the World of such local tragedies that you wouldn't hear of otherwise.
I live in Arkansas in the US, which is connected to Texas, and I’ve never even heard of this!
I’m from the states and have never heard of this lol
American here........Didn't know this even existed.
@@Timpon_DorzYou must be fun at parties.
@@Timpon_Dorz - Who took a crap in your Easter Basket?
I am Aggie class of 2000 and have watched your channel since the beginning. Thank you for the extremely thorough research and thoughtful presentation of the Aggie traditions. The Aggie bonifre collapse happened on my senior ring day, the day I was scheduled to pick up my senior ring. It was a somber day and I will never forget the silence all across campus that week. After we met in Reed Arena and the structural collapse was explained, everyone in the arena just sat there silently when they were done. After a few minutes the crowd spontaneously began to sing Amazing Grace together and hold hands and cry. I have mixed feelings about the continuation of bonfire off campus, but I graduated and left, so I'm not involved in it anymore. TAMU is one amazing school and it's a privilege to have graduated from there.
To those we lost, HERE.
The only incorrect part was when he stated that A&M was the first university in Texas. Baylor was, in 1845.
As a current Aggie student I was surprised to see a video documenting this, and I am grateful that a channel of your size and reach has shared information about this fairly obscure tragedy, which a fair amount of people outside the sphere of A&M have never heard about. One of the things that makes Texas A&M a truly special place is that there are now Aggies such as myself who were not even alive yet when this tragedy occurred, but, much like with other traditions we have such as Silver Taps and Muster, we take the time to honor our fellow Aggies who have passed away for whatever the reason may be, even if we never knew them, and Bonfire '99 is no exception. In this busy world, it makes me stop and be grateful for life and the friendship of other Aggies and to not take it for granted.
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U don’t have to be an Aggie everyone in Texas that was alive then and had a tv heard about this. But I get it.
I remember this happening. It was state-wide news here in Texas for days as the stories of both victims and survivors emerged. Tim Kerlee, the last and youngest victim to die, is of special note ... his was badly injured, but alive atop the pile. He delayed his own rescue and treatment, instead directing first responders to other trapped students. An eerie photograph was captured of this process. It shows Kerlee lying atop the logs, his legs clearly bent in an unnatural way, with firefighters sifting through rubble beneath him, attempting to free someone else. Kerlee succumbed to his injuries in the hospital two days after the collapse; his parents at his side.
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I always think about Tim Kerlee also, helping to direct the rescue efforts from his vantage despite his clearly crushed pelvis. Not all the ones that died had that chance/choice. I do think that most Aggies in his place would do the same.
I remember watching on the news the reaction of UT students as they learned of this terrible tragedy. As far as I can remember there has always been a rival between Texas A&M and UT, and each side performed ceremonies and boasted of how they were going to beat the other team. It was all in the spirit of college football, but it was so touching when the UT students' reactions were of crying and tears, and the rival between the two universities was suddenly overshadowed by the feeling of loss of fellow students (in the broad sense).
True twelfth man.
I saw the photo. How heartbreaking.
I made a fort as a kid by removing the center stack of a woodpile. The neighbor and I were in it when his dad walked over to get us for lunch and as he got near, it started collapsing. He ran over and held it open as 4 or 5 cords of wood heaved-in and rained down on us.
If he hadn't have walked over, I probably wouldn't be here to write this. That only gave my friend 10 more years, he was gone before he was 20. Slid on an icy curve into an oncoming semi.
I've been thinking about him a lot lately, not sure why, he's been gone for a long time. Can't really forget when my wallet chain for decades has been his goth necklace. His parents buried him on the same curvy road along the river so you go past both spots all the time. Sux hard. F.
He is probably just letting you know that he is thinking about you as well. It's cool that you have his necklace as your wallet chain. RIP to your friend. Great timing Dad!!
Strange how a lifeforce can resonate through the decades like that.
My Father and my best friend both had their ashes scattered on a landmark I can see pretty much anywhere I go.
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Yeah… sir, this is a TH-cam comment section
@@Faithful247cringe. Heartfelt comments are based. Cynicism is so last decade
@@mihalyshilage5826WHAT?
The part about the doorways on the memorial facing towards the hometowns of the victims has me crying a bit.
Yeah that's a very well thought out and designed memorial.
That really touched me also.
Even I have to admit that was quite sweet
You should be indignant. Who's supposed to die next in one of A&M's corny traditions?
@@MrShobarlol wtf
I met Chris Breen about 2 months before this happened. We played on a baseball team together in Austin Texas. I remember he didn't show up for a game one night and I was bent out of shape because we needed him bad. The other guys saId he was working on the Aggie Bonfire. Well, at the next game we got word that he was one of the 12 killed on the stack that night. It really hit us hard and put into perspective how fragile life is. Chris had actually graduated about 2-3 years earlier from A&M and went back to help with the build every year.
It didn't hit me until I saw the memorial. Whoever designed that is wonderful - having the portals face towards their hometown - that got me in the feels.
Given the lax "oversight", I'm far more surprised that the bonfires lasted 90+ years without killing anyone than that one of eventually claimed several lives, especially given the seeming size of them.
For the first 70+ years, the engineering students built the bonfire. Then A&M allowed fraternities on campus in the 1970s, and the frat boys gradually started to take over the job.
Same here. It just seemed like such a strange, dangerous tradition in the first place.
They were h u g e. I got to see several Aggie bonfires in the 70's. As a child I was amazed at the size of the fires but the crowds singing was the best most memorable moments for me.
There wasn’t “lax oversight”. Engineering students and staff literally engineered it. The collapse was caused by a faulty centerpole. Student Bonfire is still an active organization, and we still build and burn Bonfire every year. The only difference is that the university doesn’t officially condone it, nor has it been held on campus since the Fall.
@@QueenOfTheNorth65Texas loves dumb traditions and hates regulation so it kinda makes sense. I mean just look at our power grid situation lol
This is one of those unique events that are taught in American fire academies. It exemplifies what *can* go wrong.
Why? It wasn't the fire that caused this tragedy. It was the inept construction.
@@MrShobar Indeed, it was. However, events like this, Triangle Shirtwaist, Our Lady of Angels, Worcester Cold Storage, The Station, Coconut Grove, and an incredibly long list of fires in the US are taught specifically *because* they demonstrate, in spectacular and horrifying ways, how decisions great and small, during design, construction, maintenance or remodel, can have catastrophic consequences. As this video describes, subsequent Aggie bonfires have been closely monitored and highly regulated. Other major fires have instigated massive changes in building codes, construction materials and techniques, and fundamental updates to firefighting operations. Sadly, history shows that it often takes numerous deaths to affect change.
Because most firefighters are actually 'Fire and RESCUE' - they often spend even more time cutting people out of car wrecks than they do putting out fires. This is exactly the kind of thing they would get called out to...@@MrShobar
Actually Andy; this and every Fascinating Horror video, exemplifies the fact that nothing is more valuable in this temporal life than to know you are eternally
"right with God" by grace thru faith apart from the human effort(s) of religion e.g., traditions, rites, rituals and ceremony [Gal 2 v16]. For these are the very efforts God rejects [Mark 7]. *Truth is a stubborn thing.*
Not a unique event though. It was at least the 3rd collapse in this event.
Based on the previous non-lethal collapses, this was an accident waiting to happen. Lack of oversight KILLS people. The account about the voices growing fainter and fainter as time went on gave me chills. The memorial for the dead is really beautiful and touching, though.
If you go through each portal you can read about each of the 12 Aggies that passed.
To me, the story of Tim Kerlee Jr. is the most inspiring, as he exemplified not only what it means to be an Aggie, but to be a friend to those around him. He personified John 15:13 by willingly giving up his life such that he could help point out others that were in need of rescue. No more fitting way to be remembered as the 12th Aggie to die on that night.
Well, we can all appreciate the growing nanny-state providing ever more oversight. And for every incident like this, where it may well be needed, there are hundreds of banal things where it is not (but we get it anyway).
@@BuddyLee23Yeah, them damn traffic lights they insist on are just over the top!
@@BuddyLee23 This is brain rot.
@@BuddyLee23 "oversight is only important for the 0.01% of times when things go horribly wrong so I shouldn't have to be bothered by it in everyday life"
As an Aggie, thank you for this thoughtful, detailed, and unbiased analysis. I particularly appreciate the care you took to show the historical background behind the tradition, as that was a key component in understanding the importance of the event.
And yet he got the date of the collapse wrong
To the 12 we lost, HERE.
I always feel for the rescuers and responders of disasters like these. I cannot imagine the trauma that these poor people faced given that they were only students and on top of that the victims being friends and fellow students. My heart goes out to them and the families.
It's amazing that the tradition lasted as long as it did before there were fatalities. As a Texan I vaguely remember the incident but had forgotten about it until now. Thanks for covering it.
I'm so glad you covered this. I remember this at the time, but this is the first comprehensive video I've seen covering the whole thing. 25 years ago, time flies.
How utterly heartbreaking. You're always so sensitive in regards to those killed and affected. Just really appreciate your channel.
I've never watched one of these videos and not only remembered the event from the news, but was there when it happened so this was very eerie and had a rush of tough memories associated. Thank you for the respectfulness done to this story, especially after reading some of these comments. I went to A&M the year bonfire fell; I had friends who participated in Cut (they'd get up at 5am - I often had intentions to go, but it was too early, and I was often up too late), I had friends who were supposed to be building that night but the schedule changed so in addition to knowing most of those who died they had survivor's guilt of thinking it should have been them. I remember those cranes being instead used to help lift white-sheet covered bodies. One of the things I remember that is bizarre and surreal is that we had been watching the build before the collapse on the TV - there were a lot of us that were just heading to bed when we got word it fell. Dozens from each dorm filed out with their hard hats to go help but at first it didn't feel real; what do you mean it fell? We literally just saw it and it was fine.
Yes, it absolutely was a ridiculous tradition that got out of control but at the time it was something the students took pride in being a part of and really did think they were taking seriously even as yes they often were exhausted and sometimes drinking. One of the sayings often tossed around at the time was 'from the outside looking in you can't understand it, from the inside looking out you can't explain it' - I know it can be difficult to look back at the student body at the time (me included) being absolutely livid that it was being shut down. It felt like a slap in the face to the kids who died even though looking back now as an adult it makes perfect sense. I know it can be easy to be dismissive but these were literally 12 kids killed - even if every single one of them was drunk and a jerk (which they weren't) that is still a tragedy. Looking back we can see the complacency, looking from the outside we can see why continuing the tradition feels disrespectful - but at the time, NOT continuing the tradition felt disrespectful. Having the crowds of reporters swarm the campus making it seem inevitable due to being nothing but drunk kids without supervision felt disrespectful.
So yes, people in the comments, while I do understand that it feels obvious - please be mindful these lives were kids. They were teenagers, and had their entire future ahead of them. And even for those of us who didn't personally know those 12 - it was teenagers who had classes with them, teenagers who were hurt, teenagers who had to deal with the guilt of being part of something that crushed other teenagers they had known and interacted with families of.
And being able to look back now, YES the school absolutely should have not let it get that big; they absolutely should have had processes and supervision in place to prevent something exactly like this from happening.
Well said. I was in Bryan at the time, and we all felt the same way.
You said it perfectly. I was class of 2002 & heavily involved in Bonfire. What you said was true about the schedule change. Our dorm was supposed to be out there that night but they had changed the schedule just two days before it collapsed. I dealt with the weight of that guilt. Thank you for explaining it so well. Some of these comments are just 🤦🏼♀️ Luckily it’s not the majority of comments. We were blinded by the fact that it was an Aggie tradition; one that had been going on for decades. We couldn’t even imagine in our teenage brains that something even REMOTELY this tragic could happen. And that Aggie saying is still so true. It’s very hard to explain to someone who wasn’t there. How much it all meant to everyone. Still saddens me that this happened. I just wish they could’ve had more oversight. My much younger siblings graduated from A&M. It’s just always been so different there without bonfire. I wish it would’ve been safely done 😓❤️🙏🏻🕊👍🏻
Excellent comment. It is hard for people sometimes to see past the pride of a thing when they're in it, and there is nothing wrong with that as a moral issue; pride is a powerful force and if it is in something that brings good- a community that values itself and others- it is a good and decent thing.
I find your journey, in terms of how your feelings on it, to be incredibly understandable. As kids- and they were kids- and you were a kid- while we understand "death" I don't know we truly appreciate, or can appreciate, the utter tragedy and permanence of loss. It's only as we get older and experience a bit more of life and live the "and then what happens" of that life that we can recognize that losses do not end with the moment, they do not end in a few weeks, years, or decades. They cause tremendous, lasting and new damage for everyone who cared about the people who passed and for the people who care for those people.
The actual near-term impact of the tragedy is just the beginning of a harm that will continue to harm for a very, very, very long time. There are Moms, Dads, brothers, sisters, never-met nephews and nieces, friends never known who live in a world adjacent to those hurt by this who are also shaped to some degree, and it is with them every day in a circle that grows and grows and grows until one day, very far into the future, it fades away.
You get older, you have kids of your own; you pray that the tragedy of a life cut short young doesn't touch you. You appreciate it more when it doesn't and pray your luck holds.
@NicoliRavioli117 Bonfire has been off campus since 2002 or 2003. And it still built today.
I guarantee that, to a man, the unfortunate students that died would all wish the bonfire tradition to continue. And continue on campus as an official university event rather than off campus. If they can't get straighter logs like in the past, putting a layer of plywood between tiers would substantially stabilize the stack and avoid another tragedy.
I am a Former Student (there are no Ex-Aggies) and worked on the Bonfire in the mid-70’s. Whether loading logs onto a flatbed in some landowner’s fields or wiring up bundles of branches for placement on the structure, there was a massive sense of Teamwork and Camaraderie. I felt a lot of pride as the burn took place, joining in the singing and hoping that the outhouse would stand until after midnight. I was devastated when I heard of this tragedy, even 20 years after I had left the University. This was an excellent synopsis, very respectfully done. Thank You.
As a Texan, i wanna say thank you so much for covering this, you did an outstanding job, as always ❤
A friend of mine was a football player at TA&M when this happened. He said that the sheer scale of the rescue was stunning. The collapse was almost 80 feet across, and there were people working rescue at literally every single square foot of edge, constantly moving and taking away debris. He said that when he finally stopped moving, it was because there were too *many* hands and the structural engineers had to slow people down or risk further collapse. He said standing in that waiting crowd was like being in a bee hive, everyone humming and pointing toward every sound so they could move toward the call.
The year 2000 was my freshman year at Texas A&M. The melancholy mood was palpable all across the campus. Everyone was haunted by the memory of the collapse and those lost in this tragedy. You could see it written across everyone's faces and in their mannerisms. Everyone was also bummed by the loss of one of the most prized traditions. The bonfire was forbidden by the University. Everyone was informed that if they attempted to make an off campus bonfire, they would be expelled. There were still off campus bonfires made, however, and they grew larger as time went by.
@umadbra Actually, it was televised nationwide. The people of your small, isolated village may not have known about it, but the rest of the country did. It is pretty sad when a person such as you displays such a blatant disregard for human life. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Of course 🤦🏻♀️🙄⚰️ SMH
so they learnt nothing from the tragedy?@@KabbalahSherry
No, they were bummed out though, so that has to count for something@@harryjones5260
@@harryjones5260the new bonfires are supervised and managed by actual engineering firms and they’re designed without the key faults of the prior bonfires. The reason it is not done on campus is because the university’s insurance won’t allow it.
I requested this one! I’m so glad you could get around to it, Tysm! One detail you left out is the football game itself. As you mentioned, the bonfire was traditionally burned the night before A&M played UT (followed by midnight yell). My dad was a student there at the time, and he said it was the most intense and emotional football game he’d ever been to. The footage from the half time show still makes him tear up. Instead of playing their usually fight songs, the A&M cadets marched in a silent “T” formation, and the UT band played “Amazing Grace.” It was huge moment of Texas unity given how intense their rivalry was. The Longhorns still put up a good fight, but the Aggies beat them 16-20!
How horrible. Those poor souls who were trapped and calling for help. Dear Lord. The memorial is beautiful and it is a nice tribute by you naming those who died. May they all Rest in Peace.
I was a freshman at the University of Texas when this happened, and it still breaks my heart all these years later.
We were stoked for the game. The rivalry was in full swing, students from both schools were talking trash to each other, we were pranking each other's campus; it was just a jovial time and both schools were looking forward to the game between the biggest rivalry of the Big 12.
The night that Bonfire collapsed, that rivalry went away. A bunch of students from UT made the drive from Austin to College Station to help. We held a fundraiser. They were our rivals, but they were also our Texas siblings.
I still get goosebumps when I think about the reading of the Roll Call for the Absent after it happened.
"Softly call the muster,
Let comrade answer, “Here!”
Their spirits hover ‘round us:
As if to bring us cheer!
Mark them "present" in our hearts,
We’ll meet some other day.
There is no Death, but Life Eterne
For heroes such as they!"
God Bless, my Aggie brethren. (We're still gonna kick your butts when we join the SEC next year!)
Thank you my tea sip friend! MReap, TAMU ‘81
We'll see y'all November 30th 👍🏼
UT dimmed the lights on their tower in honor of the Aggie dead and injured.
That is the beauty of Texans, always coming together to help their neighbor in a time of need ❤
An engineer kept warning the staff that the construction was becoming too unstable each year, as the logs were becoming too vertical.
Actually the logs available for the build were becoming too crooked and forked since straight pine was becoming rare. This allowed space for one tier to telescope down into the tier below. Logs wedged and broke whatever wire and cable restraints that had been used. This type of build would be relatively safe with ideal straight logs as proven in years earlier. ( I'm an engineer with a lot of assorted failure analysis and have watched past bonfires with my son who graduated fro A&M.)
PS: Straighter logs have much higher friction between them, particularly when wired or cabled together. This better resist a parallelogram type collapse and obviates any need for diagonal bracing.
@@DrJuan-ev8lu
That’s right. That’s why an engineer should have supervised…
@@jimd5480 I know engineers i wouldn't trust.
@@DrJuan-ev8luWhat’s your point? That there are professions that have unreliable people practicing the profession?
This one hits way closer to home than most of these short documentaries do. Texas A&M grad here 😢. Wasn’t a student when this happened but did attend the candlelight vigil held at the memorial at 2:42AM on the 10th anniversary of the collapse to honor those who lost their lives.
I was an adolescent in Bryan at the time. Crazy memories.
Have y’all seen the bass pond in front of the MSC? I haven’t been on campus in years. Just went back and it’s mind blowing
As a former student, thank you for covering a topic so near and dear with so much respect. Thank you.
Omg it sounds like a deadly game of Jenga - knowing which logs to remove without the logs around it collapsing. I'd never heard of this tragedy but that's why I love this channel. He explains why these things happen in an informative yet respectful way. Very sad state of affairs 😔
There is something so captivating about this channel, Fascinating Horror. The classic tune, Glass Pond, the gentleman who narrates and the overall delivery of the stories exceed every similar channel on youtube. Thank you FH for giving us this amazing content to enjoy. ❤❤❤❤❤ I greatly appreciate your weekly efforts.
Our narrator SURE sounds like Baltar from Battlestar Galactica (2nd gen), but as a retired audio engineer, what could I know? :)
The work here is just amazing and caring.
lol omg, I have an old cassette recording my bro did of the audio portion of one of the 1976 Battlestar Galactica TV series. That was our "streaming" back in the day 😅 And I do a little voice-over work that is recorded on 6.0.5 Garageband and would make a pro like you want to claw your ears out it's so bad. 😂😂😂@@htos1av
I love that you take time to say the name of each deceased student
It makes them humans, not just a statistic. Thank you
He does that in most of the videos where it is possible for him to do so. It really personalizes it. This is a great channel.
classy😊
Yes. Thank you.
One of my favorite things about your channel, is that you individually name the deceased in these tragedies. It's a really personal touch and I appreciate it.
i want to add to the Aggie ring tradition thing. there is a rite of passage called "ring dunking". a person drops their ring into a pitcher of beer, and then they chug the pitcher, and are supposed to catch the ring in their mouths. a significant number of people end up swallowing their ring.
As an Aggie who watches your channel, this is the video I didn’t know I needed.
That's a really lovely and meaningful memorial.
whomever designed it did a really beautiful and meaningful thing, and i hope they know that
As a Texan living close to College Station, this was a horrible tragedy for so many. These students did this for love, for pride and for heartfelt tradition. So many immediately started to condemn everyone associated with it. You are the first one I've seen that gave it the gravity and sensitivity it deserves as well as honor the spirit of those we lost. Thank you.
"...These students did this for love, for pride and for heartfelt tradition...". They're supposed to be getting an education! What part of getting an education involves participating and dying in a dangerously stupid "tradition"?
@@MrShobarcollege/university isn’t just about the education. It’s a whole experience. For many, it’s the first time they live away from home and start taking steps to adulthood. It’s about building a community, a network, and exploring new interests. For a lot of kids, it’s their first time meeting people who have the same educational interests or hobbies that they do. Lots of schools have rituals or traditions that have nothing to do with education but are time-honoured college experiences, like streaking at the football game.
Nobody went into the bonfire wanting anyone to get hurt or die. This channel is full of people who miscalculated the danger in a situation until it was too late. Humans often learn through experiences. It’s tragic that so many young people died or were seriously injured trying to participate in a long-held tradition.
That's a pretty lame a $ $ tradition. Kill a bunch of tree, and create pollution by setting those trees on fire while partying and getting drunk. That's love and pride? No, that's pretty immature and totally lame. What end goal is that "tradition" supposed to accomplish?
@@MrShobar Ummm... College is preperatory for the real world and should be treated as such. Engineering is learned by doing this. So is teamwork. Are those not valuable traits to have for the real world? You sound like the new generation. Devoid of understanding these are necessary learned traits. Yes! Do these safely but, they are by no means not education.
@MrShobar If you ever have the chance, I hope you can visit the A&M campus, talk to students, and learn of the traditions they honor and why. It can be quite mind opening if one is capable of it. Look up any video on the Aggie Muster. You might take another look. Be safe!
I am a grad of University of Texas and I am saddened that this happened. School rivialery put aside this was a very big blow to those who call Texas A&M home
UT alum here too 🤘🏼 definitely remember this, really tragic. Interesting to hear FH talking about a Texas college.
As an Aggie grad, I will never forget the tribute that the Longhorn band put together and how UT and A&M came together as a family that week. @@VPharp
I'd like to express the amount of respect I have for the fact that you read the name of each victim who lost there life. It's such a subtle, yet massive way to give humanity to the story rather than it just being a story. Reading their names aloud means it was read aloud each time this video is played. I commend the sentiment..
Sad that only $6M was paid out to those injured when they just threw away $70M because they made a dumb decision for a football coach.
Money is all you can think about in a time of tragedy?
That’s pretty sad
Inflation. also football is paid by boosters, Not the school.
Universities as places of higher education is a distant 3rd or 4th place priority for the admin. Football or basketball, research funding, ...
- former academic
Love being a night owl in the US, I get all my favorite videos from across the pond before everyone else wakes up 😁
Same! It's great!
Mine is just shit insomnia usually. But tonight I'm keeping vigil with my cat. I think he's dying.... can't sleep until he goes...
@@nyxspiritsong5557I'm very sorry about your cat. I hope he is not suffering
Night shifttt woop woop
In the Netherlands at the Scheveningen beach, with new years it used to be a tradition between two neighborhoods to build the biggest campfire. As you can imagine, the competitiveness lead to the bonfires getting crazy high, until a few years ago it was a very windy night that led cinders being blown all over a large residential neighborhood. Luckily nobody died, but it started a lot of small fires that easily could have gotten out of hand.
These normally don't make me too torn up, but orienting the memorial statues to their hometowns really got me. Thank you for your well researched videos as always.
I was really touched by that design element as well..
20/20 in an instant had an episode on this. I rember seeing that so many years ago and ive never forgotten it
Thank you for posting in your video the names of the people who passed from the incident. Taking the time to do this really felt like you cared about those involved and weren't simply concerned about making revenue from a documentary. Much respect, friend.
As an Aggie. currently living in College Station, I can’t put into words what this video means to me and, I’m certain, all of the Aggie family. My father, mother, aunts, and uncle were all there that day. My uncle lost one of his Corps buddies. Here.
My uncle was one of the twelve.
Here.
my brother is a freshman at a&m this year in the corps, and the bonfire memorial is a massive deal. i'm glad that they had so many people willing to help on the scene. it's a massive deal for not just aggies, but texans in general, so i thank you for covering it!
I clearly remember this as if it happened yesterday. Thank you from Aggie country for the thoughtful presentation of a painful tradgey. The names of each that lost their lives being read out was a kind touch. Again Thank You for a truly thoughtful remembrance of that sad day.
I'd known one of the 12 since I moved back to Texas in 5th grade, and we graduated high school the same year - he was one of the brightest and kindest folks in our school, and that's not just postmortem hyperbole. We all knew he was destined to be something special.
I also was fortunate enough to be able to attend the 1998 Bonfire, just to check it out, and it was an experience that was wholly unique. I can understand why it was such a huge thing to the school, but at the same time, it took my sweet classmate from the world, and I just can't think of the event anymore without wondering what could've been if it hadn't been built at all that following year.
Jerry Don Self was my friend Mike’s son. I remember this event so well, and prayed for all the people affected by it.
Another thing to mention is the football game that happened immediately after the collapse. Our greatest rivals, the University of Texas at Austin, held a memorial service at halftime that was deeply moving to Aggies everywhere. There is a recording on youtube. Texas A&M went on to narrowly upset Texas that day. The final minutes of that game may be the most emotional in the entire history of Texas A&M.
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Link to the halftime performance
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America's obsession with sports is ridiculous. The game should have been canceled following the tragedy!
@@sunflowers730so many european soccer games have continued after deadly riots. In Brazil they literally continued a soccer match after a ref was beheaded. But yea, take any opportunity to bash America. 🤦
@@barryallen871 -Are they bashing the USA culture, or are they bashing Texas culture?
@@sunflowers730 that game was NOT about football, but community and support for each other - and it was very necessary for our healing.
@@sunflowers730@sunflowers730 Same in France, we have our next football game against England after the 16 novembre paris attack, we didn't cancel it and the english sang La Marseillaise wirh us it was very moving
I’ve been watching this channel for years and I’m so glad you covered this! I went to Texas A&M and you covered our traditions very well. This was such a horrible tragedy and we still hold the vigil at 2:42am every November 18th
I worked on the bonfire build when I was a student at A&M in the 70s. I remember hearing about the collapse on my way to work that morning. It shocked me to my core.
One thing many people do not know is that the Aggie student body is known as the "12th Man." And it is ironic that there were 12 Aggie students killed in the collapse.
One of the greatest examples of failure of an institution ever. I was in my teens and I remember this, it taught me to listen to myself and not trust those who are in charge when they’re being an idiot. Very sad, but a huge influence on me and a contributing factor to me still being alive.
I was at A&M 2 days before this happened. I was in High School in JROTC deciding if I wanted to join the corp of cadets and visited the cadets the weekend before the collapse. I remember the news story and the feeling of shock when I learned. During my visit I helped move some logs with the cadets who were building the bonfire. Fortunate I was not there when it fell.
It's amazing how avoidable almost every accident covered on this channel was. Human stupidity is remarkably dangerous but does make for fascinating storytelling.
I dont think this disaster showcases either though. It's incredible that different students have done this over a hundred times and not had a terrible collapse until '99.
@@SubvertTheState - It was only a matter of time as the stack kept growing every year. When you need local companies to donate cranes to make your bonfire.....it's gone too far.
@@christopherweise438- Agreed 😬 Definitely not a structurally sound object, let's be honest...
@@SubvertTheStateonce you start using cranes to build a bonfire its starting to become stupid , they pushed their luck thinking they could build a bigger and bigger bonfire , it was always going to end in disaster, common sense went out the window in favour of bragging rights , the people allowing this stupidity to get to the stage cranes are used all have blood on their hands.
@@PlasmaStorm73 Stupidity often plays a major role
I’ve been watching this channel for a while now, but have to admit I was somewhat startled this came under your radar. I graduated from A&M in 1991, 8 years prior to the collapse and enjoyed going out to the bonfire every year I was there. As a student I didn’t know the bonfire was ENTIRELY student built, and rather assumed there was some professional supervision. After the collapse happened, my dad asked me: “did you ever work on that?” I just laughed. I would never have considered it although a few of my male friends worked on the chop (clearing trees). I’m surprised the school had let something like that continue on campus WITHOUT some sort of required professional input- particularly in our growing litigious society. All things said, the moratorium of the bonfire was inevitable. A sad tragic ending to what was originally made in fun.
I'm shocked that insurance companies allowed it to happen without proper oversight.
@@jenniferhill9924 Insurance companies can't forbid what they don't know about.
Student Bonfire still happens today. The University is not involved and it happens off campus, but it does still happen.
Always excited whenever FH drops a video you learn a lot from watching these
Texas A&M was the first PUBLIC institution of higher learning in Texas. But Baylor University, a PRIVATE institution opened in 1846 as the first institution of higher learning in Texas
As an employee with USPS I recall that in the wee hours while we sorted mail in College Station some of us had our radios on listening to music. We all heard this loud crack and then a sound as something dropped. Deejays on the stations quickly stated that the bonfire had fallen.
Very somber time after this.
Weeks later I was working at both the Post Offices at the MSC and Northgate relieving the window clerks there for lunch. It was hard to fight back tears when parents of the deceased students would come by to close their child’s PO Box.
As a graduate of Texas A&M Class of ‘81 this has made me reflect on this tragic event and how supportive and resilient we become at times like this.
I’m still here in my 32nd year. Take care of each other.
A good friend of mine was supposed to work the "stack" at the time it collapsed. He decided to go drinking instead, which probably saved his life. He did lose a number of friends though. It was a truly horrendous accident.
My father is a die hard longhorn, but wells up with tears when he talks about the aggies and the 12th man: always ready to serve. Thank you for this video and helping us to remember those lost.
I remember when this happened.
It's incredible that no one could see trouble on the horizon long before it finally happened.
I am glad to see that the tradition still exists today. Would like to see the College man up and join back in with the ceremony. A tragedy should not be the end. it should be a lesson. Learn the lesson and make the appropriate changes that is what has made man successful. This cancelling of things because of injury or ego has got to stop.
It's so hard when a classmate dies, even if wasn't someone you knew well, it really hits you hard and stays with you... I can hardly imagine what it would be like to lose so many students all at once.
Agreed. Almost 30 years ago when I was in 3rd grade, a girl from another 3rd grade class who i didn’t know well, but saw her on a regular basis, was killed in a house fire. The following week the school held a memorial service for her. It was such a strange feeling.
Man it really sucks when celebrations and events turn into a tragedy be it the fault of the participants or the result of someone else in the past (like when a building is poorly designed and part of it collapses during a party)
RIP to those that passed away from this accident.
Thanks for covering this one, FH. I was fifteen at the time and remember this being all over the news. I know there's a Charlie Minn documentary about this tragedy but his work's a bit exploitative for my taste. You show a lot more compassion and decency. There's nothing done for cheap shocks here. You handle tender subjects with care and responsibility (including the Hartford Circus Fire, which my grandmother survived), and it's much appreciated.
I was there when it happened. You did a very good job in presenting the information. Thank you for your tribute. Gig 'Em!
Except getting the date wrong
I hope you don’t take this the wrong way - because it’s a compliment from my perspective. As much as I love watching your videos, I really love sleeping to them. I’m super picky about what I’ll listen to at night and everything about your content is perfect.
Very well done. Accurate. I remember November 19, 1999. My sister called and said she was very sad at what happened. I didn’t know yet. It was my first time getting on the internet and I read stories and comments for hours as I cried in front of my new bride. I wouldn’t cry again for 19 years.
The experience I had at Texas A&M was magical. I got goosebumps each time when I saw the campus as I drove from Houston while a student. When I was 24 I was watching the game on tv when the band marched and I got goosebumps. The announcer said if you’re an Aggie fan and you don’t have goosebumps then you have one foot in the grave.
I could say so much but let me add that Aggies always wear their ring and if you meet a fellow Aggie (the ring is a giveaway) you HAVE TO shake hands. Incredible unity for life.
I heard about this after a huge bonfire (48 metres high, 157 feet) caused trouble in the Dutch seaside town of Scheveningen in 2019. Not a collapse but an uncontrolled fire with fortunately no casualties. They had bigger bonfires every year and it was mentioned that one might collapse like happened with the Aggie collapse.
Thanks for covering this little known accident. As a kid in the 90s I remember when this happened, and it's hard to find information about it. To give context, just a few years before was the Bonsai Pipeline waterslide collapse, then the Columbine massacre, then this. It was a lot of tragedy involving school aged young people seemingly happening back to back.
I'm just as interested in how the students apparently made off with an entire barn once they allegedly disassembled it, as the actual 1999 collapse. I hope there's some truth to that because, as sad as the collapse in 1999 was, the image of 1950s era Aggies showing up, tearing down a barn, then leaving is just hilarious to me.
Then again this vid goes into a ton of details that the only other coverage I've seen (which was Modern Marvels) didn't bother going into and just gave a surface level overview
Modern Marvels did mention that the lumber used in the collapse year was more irregular in shape than the wood sourced in the previous years, meaning it couldn’t be packed as tightly which contributed to the instability of the structure.
Amish can raise a barn with a group of people pretty quick. There's a story that Shakespeare's company disassembled a whole theater that belonged to someone else and stole all the parts, reassembling it elsewhere for their new theater.
Memorial is beautiful, such a sad story to have losses at young lives at a what is supposed to be a fun celebration
I had to do a architecture project on the Bonfire Memorial two years ago. We were supposed to explain all of the design choices that were made. It was the first time I went to the memorial, and it was surreal. I'm not big into Aggie Traditions, but I always appreciated this place--as well as things like Muster and Silver Taps. I cry very easily, and I can't even think about traditions like these without being on the verge of tears. They are just beautiful.
We appreciate how well you've articulated your own insights. Keep working hard.
You haven't even finished the video yet lol I mean your probably not wrong but...
As soon as he said "bailing twine" (the 1st time) I glared at the screen and thought "Bad idea". I guess living in the country does teach something)
Same here...
Why? Does it not stand up to heat?
At some point, you'd think the bonfires were big enough. RIP. Beautiful memorial
Minor not particularly important correction given the circumstances: A&M was preceded in opening by Baylor University by more than 30 years. A&M was the first *public* university in Texas.
My husband works for Texas A&M and I never knew this happened! Walked by the memorials and didn’t know the backstory. Thank you for posting!
That happened my freshman or sophomore year when the collapse occurred. I'm from Texas and had an athletic scholarship offer to A&M but went elsewhere. But I had several friends that were there and one of them was injured in the accident. That was a crazy event.
I'm a Texas A&M graduate. The date is November 18, 1999 at 2:42 am. Not the 19th. It's ingrained into most Aggie's minds forever. I'm disappointed that this very basic fact is incorrect.
As soon as I heard how the bonfire was being constructed, the inevitable impending doom hit home, and the question that sprang to mind was, where was the structural engineer needed to build it safely? A haunting tragedy I am unlikely to forget. RIP to the 12 students lost, and my thoughts go out to those injured too
You'd kind of think with that many mechanics around the knowledge of physics would have been enough to know how dodgy it was.
@@nlwilson4892 At least enough to set a limit on the bonfire's height so the drunkards didn't push for it to be higher than the last year's bonfire.
Most “Red Pots”, the students chosen to build the bonfire, were seniors in the engineering program. Traditionally there were no blueprints, so instructions on how to build the bonfire were passed down orally. Somehow they made it 90 years with even sketchier designs without incident. It was a horrible and shocking tragedy.
I was attending another school but had friends who were engineering students at TAMU at the time. I remember worrying about them when I heard about the collapse because I always believed the engineering students and their professors were in charge of planning and construction. It’s always been surprising to me that there wasn’t better oversight given the strong engineering program there and that it was a University event.
In years prior to the collapse, the stack was constructed entirely by the Corps Of Cadets with experienced Seniors (Red Pots) overseeing construction. No non-Corp personnel, or "Non-Regs", were allowed on the stack, and no drinking was allowed. This apparently changed during the 90s to allow Non-Regs, and whatever else, on the stack. We see the sad result....
I'm an Aggie. Class of 2004.
I happened to see the 1999 Bonfire Stack under construction, as a high schooler visiting the campus. Someone from the dorm I was staying at took a tour group out to the edge of the Polo Field.
I recall that someone in the group looked at all the people climbing around on the logs without harnesses, and saying "that looks dangerous". Which our guide basically dismissed by saying that we'd done it for 90 years, and so far, so good.
Thank you for always saying their names. I am sure it means a lot to their families.
I know it was a horrible tragedy, but I couldn't help laughing at the part where some students just straight-up stole an entire barn from some poor farmer.
That wasn't remotely funny. Farmers barely make a living.
I remember this. It traumatized the Texas A&M community and when Bonfire with canceled there was a lot of anger and guilt to go around.
Always look forward to your videos. That memorial is well thought out and meaningful. Another story well done.
Moved to college Station the year after the collapse, that was a tough year for everyone not having the bonfire for the first time in so long. A stark reminder of the tradition that was lost.
We still do this tradition, it did not end in 1999. It’s just off campus now and is much smaller than it used to be. Going there is unreal, even with its diminished size.
Source: I’m Aggie Band class of 2023
In Sweden we have May Pyres... and~ I've NEVER seen one stacked. It's just a great big fire. That's the point.
Not to shame the dead, but that stacking idea seems like a lot of extra work for not much payoff even if nothing goes wrong, TBH.
Better to just let a pyre be a pyre. Start making them more elaborate = prestige gets involved, and with no proper safety protocols, it's not about If an accident is going to happen, without When, and How bad. Such a sad, preventable case.
The memorial is top class 👏, the people who thought it up deserve a lot of respect , a lot of thought went into it , particularly putting the arches facing their hometown , thats a nice touch.
I must admit if you can look down after death that would make me proud my university honoured me like that
Very respectful
As an Aggie, thank you for doing this well. The campus holds a memorial every year on the 19th at 2:42am at the Memorial site to remember the fallen and it is a powerful event. Thousands come every year despite the time and no matter weather.
Not the 19th. The 18th. The video got the date wrong.
OMG. How many students, the smart ones, over the years looked at what was going on and said, OMG, this is clearly a tragedy waiting to happen, but no person 'in charge', students/faculty/administration, would really listen. My impression of Tx A&M is all negative. This and a boating accident with Aggie students, where they let the only hero of the group (who'd saved two of them) drown, paints a sad picture.
And the fact that they couldn't engineer a way to extricate the victims, says something about the quality of the school as well. I can't imagine standing there watching the same baffoons who allowed that to happen be in charge of the rescue (non-rescue) process.
I've been to disaster situations, and had to deal with horrible personalities, who were more ego oriented than anything else.
I’m from Texas when this happened it was such a big deal because the bonfires were a huge tradition and everyone wanted to go to at least one in your life and now like no one talks about it I wonder if the kids at A&M today even know about the bonfires. They had talked about keeping them going on private property but I haven’t heard about that in a while
I'm sure they do, and supposedly get professional help now, but a land owner is legally responsible for the people on their property. There might be financial consequences for things like this, insurance raises, etc.
They 100% do. Aggies don’t forget traditions; they hold a vigil for the bonfire victims every year.
Student Bonfire still happens. And candlelight vigils definitely happen every year at 2:42 am on November 18th (not the 19th as incorrectly stated in the video).
They do. My brother was in the Corps, it's just unofficial and off campus now.