These Make Your Kicks Sound Bad

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  • @ziolepr8393
    @ziolepr8393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I wish I had this level of tutorial when i started 23 years ago. I would have saved so much time.

    • @princepatootie3357
      @princepatootie3357 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      you still have plenty of time. everyone is on their own path. you're obviously still alive. Lets hear what you can do now?

  • @eepuchan
    @eepuchan ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have a love/hate relationship with how right you are and how MANY "bad" traits I still do in production. Thank you so much for what you do! Much love, girl

  • @ludovicrobin5308
    @ludovicrobin5308 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Hey you know what I love the most about your videos ? It's that they're super useful to me even if I absolutely don't make the same kind of music as you ! :) You always manage to explain general concepts in a very clear way and I haven't seen many youtube channels doing it so well
    (Sorry if my english is bad btw...)

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy to hear that! Thank you😊

    • @TehAwesomer
      @TehAwesomer ปีที่แล้ว +3

      (your english is not bad, don't worry!) -- native english speaker

  • @user-7SkyzOnFire7
    @user-7SkyzOnFire7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Alice, You go SUPER-HARD with the instructions you give in your video.
    That is EXTREMELY APPRECIATED more than words can express.
    The information you provide is PRICELESS.
    Please don't ever change.
    You are a DIAMOND to the audio community and your gifts of knowledge are needed in these times where it seems like everyone is only trying to sell this level of knowledge.
    So, Again I say BIG THANK YOU.

  • @donit.
    @donit. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I'd love to hear more about toms, I always struggle with them

    • @AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69
      @AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really? I think it's a mental thing. I'm a 20 year plus drummer who doesn't or hardly uses toms in any of my electronic music.

    • @donit.
      @donit. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 yeah me neither but I'd like to, because I know a lot of tracks where I think the toms really add a lot of groove

    • @ELLIOT8209
      @ELLIOT8209 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I avoid them😂🤣

    • @JimJuno
      @JimJuno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's easy to get carried away with them and overshoot the target. I'm busy learning how to use them right. It's a rabbithole on it's own... 🙃

    • @mrtnlnhrdt7605
      @mrtnlnhrdt7605 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here 😅

  • @bh9999
    @bh9999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been producing for five years and yet I had to watch this till the end. Thanks for covering this subject in depth.

  • @xil.sanctified
    @xil.sanctified ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Just discovered this channel and I must say, your content is absolutely phenomenal. Then I went to check out your Spotify and was blown away. You are very generous with your skills, thank you for taking the time to make these videos.

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much! ❤❤

  • @xgmode
    @xgmode 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For a kick with a loud transient I'd probably use a hard clipper or sample edit the volume of that portion to correct it.

  • @Kpm1985
    @Kpm1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for such a clear explanation. I think this is one of your best videos yet. I recently got a handle on how multi-band compression keeps my low end elements under control and working together, but this video helped me realize that I've probably been making kick drum selections that later get in my way.

  • @fabriziopaglia-rg2wc
    @fabriziopaglia-rg2wc ปีที่แล้ว

    congratulations from Italy! You are very prepared. your videos are more interesting than many found on youtube! brava, brava!

  • @danydonowitz
    @danydonowitz ปีที่แล้ว

    Please continue creating videos that explore seemingly basic concepts, which, in reality, represent fundamental questions. Through your content, I've come to realize that I had taken these answers for granted, merely following habits without truly understanding the depths of these essential inquiries.

  • @JimJuno
    @JimJuno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The amount of time & effort that goes into these videos must be insane.
    This is quality content!

  • @kymeru
    @kymeru 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, saw a lot of kick tutorials. If you do another kick video, please talk about why we can feel a good kick in the body and what's wrong if we can't.

  • @elvisojeda5600
    @elvisojeda5600 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've decided to stick to your content more closely and been getting some of the amazing resources you come up with... Thank you for it all!

  • @thebarnowlsmusic
    @thebarnowlsmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Making music for 10+ years... kick and bass mastery is a form of art. The science won't get you far, but it certainly does help in some ways. Also your sample pack is essential for me lol.

  • @alisbam7105
    @alisbam7105 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I learn so much from every video you put out and I don't even make the type of music you make, but I still can implement the knowledge to my own productions. Thank you so much for the value you bring to us all

  • @DanielSamulewiczXXI
    @DanielSamulewiczXXI 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! All aspects of kicks sound design in 10 minutes! Beautifully amazing! Thank goodness, thank you!

  • @lewysevans
    @lewysevans 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for another great video! Love the effort you put into these, the amount of info, while still being laid back enough to speak your mind and give deeper insight. Carrying on with this theme, I'd love to see a dive into the tonal aspects of other percs, mainly hi hats and claps. I feel I often meet producers who aren't aware that while some things are atonal, more often than not all percussion is playing notes, and becoming more aware of those notes and their interplay in scales can create much more expressive, emotional music. Like how toms, kicks and snare are generally tuned on a drum set. Experimenting with the pitch of individual drum elements can really change the feel in the context of a song and it would be cool to bring that subject of which intervals/patterns work best into focus in the community. Punchy four on the floor drums would be a good example. What makes objectively more musical/danceable great BOOTS + CATS vs weak boots + cats (outside of the important nuance of masterful groove/swing) Hopefully that makes sense.

  • @HughLynnMusic
    @HughLynnMusic ปีที่แล้ว

    So in love with your videos. Unlike many other youtube tutorials, you give FULL tutorials WITH great examples!
    Thanks Alice!🙏🏼🙏🏼

    • @HughLynnMusic
      @HughLynnMusic ปีที่แล้ว

      Ohh! And it's super entertaining! I'd spend hours on your channel without knowing😂😂

  • @martindewhurst2485
    @martindewhurst2485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Concise, great graphical explanations and a good range of genres covered. Excellent video

  • @internetsurfer6995
    @internetsurfer6995 ปีที่แล้ว

    I usually fall asleep with music production videos when I'm laid on my bed. But this was very educational and interesting at the same time. Thank you for taking the time to share this content with us!

  • @deaddoomed2380
    @deaddoomed2380 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow I understand much better now what I do with compressors on kick thanks your explanation of the waveform! thanks you!

  • @TheologyVGM
    @TheologyVGM ปีที่แล้ว

    You're one of the only people I learn from because I don't trust other people haha. You are amazing.

  • @Bronwyn031
    @Bronwyn031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live by this quote from Joel Zimmerman, "Kicks make kicks and Bass makes bass."
    High-pass out all frequencies 100hz and below on any kick unless you're not using a dedicated bass track elsewhere in the mix.

  • @plake01
    @plake01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    another interesting alternative to Kick 2 is Dawsome Chop Suey. There you can assemble the Transient, Body and Tail sequentially instead of layering. Nice approach imo.

  • @SomeOne-pd6vm
    @SomeOne-pd6vm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow, super helpful video. I've been making music for a few years now and kicks are probably the thing I struggle with the most, giving examples on different contexts here was super helpful.

  • @davidpetersonharvey
    @davidpetersonharvey ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos. I started producing over 25 years ago but learn a lot from you.

  • @ryanwilliamske
    @ryanwilliamske ปีที่แล้ว

    I learnt how to EQ kicks thanks to how you broke them down into layers. This video is VERY helpful. Thank you Alice!

  • @POINDXTRMUSIC
    @POINDXTRMUSIC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome video! great perspective on how different kicks work for different track situations. thanks

  • @Js-oo9jq
    @Js-oo9jq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow! this video opens my mind to such intrincate details about the kick - which I use without much discretion. Thanks, Alice!

  • @brianwynn10
    @brianwynn10 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your knowledge is amazing I been really taking my time learning production to a science and you have help answer a lot of questions I have tanks

  • @aiaccident
    @aiaccident 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Another brilliant episode by the awesome queen of production theory! Thx! Best , random Swedish hungry producer 😅

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Aww thanks a ton! Keep making music you random Swedish hungry producer! ❤️

  • @TraxtasyMedia
    @TraxtasyMedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got to mention that Angerfist ist Hardcore not Hardstyle ;) but a well video where I learned why my older kicks sound so messed up and I never figured the issue, now I do, thank you very much Alice

    • @Void-ih5wx
      @Void-ih5wx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Correct, also hardstyle uses more than 2 transients (and mostly heavy eq + distortion).

  • @eugenio8652
    @eugenio8652 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are just precious, Alice! Thanks!

  • @wastipandjah
    @wastipandjah ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your precious knowleges, i learn by myself and it really helps me composing !

  • @oliverquach9614
    @oliverquach9614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really appreciate you showing abnormal looking or ‘wonky’ kicks, it’s more applicable to real life situations!

  • @DreadPitt
    @DreadPitt ปีที่แล้ว

    "And this will be followed by the buddy of the kick" is what it said in the auto-generated captions. Made me laugh haha

  • @keyofdmusic
    @keyofdmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tutorial, as always. Quick question about a tonal kick. I understand the benefits when the kick is tuned to F and the bass also is playing F. But what happens when the bass note changes? Wouldn't that introduce dissonance in the low end with the kick hitting F all the time? Or maybe it doesn't matter because the sound is short lived? As an extension of that question, the whole concept of tuning a drum makes sense, but ... what do you tune it to? Thanks for helping clearing that up.

    • @pappasierra703
      @pappasierra703 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try tuning it to the fundamental key/pitch in instances like that

  • @macronencer
    @macronencer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an excellent video. I've seen a few other videos about kick sounds, but this is the only one so far that breaks it down into relevant theoretical analysis. It will be particularly useful for building suitable kick sounds out of other samples if I'm doing more experimental stuff (I might plan to do that at some point). Bookmarking this one - and I just subscribed. Thank you!

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  ปีที่แล้ว

      Aww happy to hear that and welcome to our community! ❤️

  • @veljkocvetkovic141
    @veljkocvetkovic141 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great tutorials! Keep up with these, they are very informative regardless of genre. Do you happen to have a suggestion on hard techno kicks that you would recommend? Most of sample packs I have downloaded come with very distorted, overprocessed kicks that can't really deliver.

  • @elvisojeda5600
    @elvisojeda5600 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coming here to revisit this one... Great video!

  • @drrodopszin
    @drrodopszin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be interesting to see this approach in a hybrid drum kit for folks who make live music with some electronic extras. I feel since the drummer likes to add some embellishments it is usually better to have shorter kicks.

  • @romano5222
    @romano5222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for sharing crucial recipes for cooking the most important part of electronic music, tips to make them various, you can't make an hour and a half with very similar kicks without boring the audience. yes, there were some drastic changes on this channel, contents became more usefull ! THanks again ! respects !

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Romano, appreciate it!❤️

  • @VAMPZDJ
    @VAMPZDJ ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear wisdom queen. Quick question. I asked you previously about moving things off the grid to be less repetitive, but I think I'm a psychopath or a cyborg because that's the only way things feel right. Do you have any advice for how far to move things or is there some other way to do it with a plug-in or something? I'd love to see an example of a full track so i can see how you align and misalign things on the grid. 🖤 Thank you.

  • @sideshow4463
    @sideshow4463 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. I don't make edm, just sometimes for fun. But I get the point, kick choice matters and it really does, no matter what genre you make. Although I like to experiment and not use what I am "supposed to" use. That's because I want to be a little different. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not 😆

  • @Beatsbasteln
    @Beatsbasteln 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great overview on different types of kicks and kick problems. that kick with the pitch drifts sounded awkward af. it would actually make a great challenge trying to come up with a musical context for it. something that unironically makes it the most favorable kick

  • @tocompose
    @tocompose ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you, Alice. Very informative kick video

  • @TheEGOSONIC
    @TheEGOSONIC ปีที่แล้ว

    hey , I would like to thank you very much, you have helped me many times, although I use Reason , but basically it is the same.many greetings from Frankfurt

  • @lachyc4356
    @lachyc4356 ปีที่แล้ว

    Production quality of your videos is amazing! Thank you

  • @user-LABUX
    @user-LABUX ปีที่แล้ว

    I have watched many of your videos!
    Super!

  • @juanchis.investigadorsonoro
    @juanchis.investigadorsonoro ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Okay, so an Ableton CT shared your channel & it's amazing. Thanks for making so amazing videos. This will help a lot in & out of the classroom. I can't help wonder, is there a way to get access to the flow charts? Stay cool Alice

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, really appreciate the kind words and give my hugs to your Ableton CT.❤️
      Kick frequency chart (A bit more advanced version of it) is available only for the melodic techno low end course at the moment. Just to give them something of an extra. 😊

  • @mavro-skyli
    @mavro-skyli ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the content! It has helped me a lot. Tack så mycket!

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy to help and thank you for your kind tip! 😊✌️

  • @FranR00
    @FranR00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can fix DC offset with a HPF on 20hz, But i'm not sure if that's the best option to do in that case, probably is better to change your kick.

  • @iandeegrees1509
    @iandeegrees1509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    another great video from Alice (and the day has structure)

  • @djstevekelley
    @djstevekelley ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and insightful. Nice work!

  • @rhozu
    @rhozu ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad kicks:
    3:42 DC Offset: signal is not balanced, one side will clip when volume is turned up.
    4:18 Stereo-tail: L/R are not the same, will phase each other out, must be mono to sound best.
    5:10 Late peak: loudest part of kick isn't at the beginning, which will hurt your mix.
    5:17 Extreme clipping: kick sample is already clipping before any effects.
    5:37 Too low fundamental: if the frequency is below 30hz it can't be heard as well.
    6:17 Messed up waveforms: pitch of kick is changing throughout sample, you want equal space between the waves.

  • @z0Eiira
    @z0Eiira ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much on such specific and useful info. Although in my case, not being a native English speaker, found some trouble following the audio with the subtitles, as it seems they have a few errors (i.e. atonal kick / atunnel kick, tom sounds / thumb sounds). Just a suggestion. Best of luck with your channel!

  • @Quadr44t
    @Quadr44t ปีที่แล้ว

    DC offset also is dangerous for the speakers. It makes the woofer move sudden, instead of smooth.

  • @DelasVC
    @DelasVC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kickdrums really are a science of their own! This is why there is _very limited_ information on how to actually _make_ a kick other than just using samples out there on the net.. Kickdrum production along with mastering chains are probably the best kept secret in the industry..

  • @tawixdu64
    @tawixdu64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you make a tutorial to create our own kick from a synth (serum, sylenth, stock plugins...) please ?

  • @tri-unetrl3966
    @tri-unetrl3966 ปีที่แล้ว

    What tools/software do you use to edit your videos??? they're awesome!

  • @Richard_P_James
    @Richard_P_James ปีที่แล้ว

    Another useful video 👍 Has there been a video about grooves / quantizing?

  • @issac1074
    @issac1074 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! thank you!

  • @justandycat
    @justandycat ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, thanks! If the kick's transient is high frequency does it mean I should sidechain the hi hats and other high transients, right?

  • @akifkayis
    @akifkayis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome lesson exactly, your videos are kind of gold💯

  • @taborgreat
    @taborgreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Missed seeing you in my recommended. Excellent tutorial as always and exactly what I needed as I’ve been ovethinking kicks lately.

  • @ZZ13ZZ13-s5z
    @ZZ13ZZ13-s5z ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. Thank you!!

  • @ProfessorSaibertin
    @ProfessorSaibertin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative, thank you Alice!

  • @Meni6699
    @Meni6699 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hei! Great job! Could I make a remake of this video for almost "not english speaking" country?
    And I have a few questions about bad kicks!
    1. I tried so hard to find samples with DC offset, but I didn`t find anything at all) I found only your example in google for the whole piece of someone`s track.
    2. I`m using FL Studio and I can't see the stereo component of the samples, so I can't see the stereo tail of the kick! Dispel my backwardness and incompetence! Are kick's samples often stereo at all?
    3. And the stupidest question! Where do you find these "bad samples"! I thought that all modern samplepacks already include only good ones!
    Thanks in advance for the answers and good luck!

  • @purpledolphin6776
    @purpledolphin6776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative for such a short video, cheers!

  • @blindcamel6236
    @blindcamel6236 ปีที่แล้ว

    ready to start using some tunnel kicks

  • @Rhekluse
    @Rhekluse ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really good. Great video on the philosophies & practices of Kicks. Thanks Alice! :)

  • @robertoalekohl
    @robertoalekohl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    such a fantastic break down. thank you.

  • @pawexs
    @pawexs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤩good to see you.
    Thank you for new fresh portion of wisdom

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy to help, always! 😊

  • @marc-io
    @marc-io 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First! A good kick is the one that fits your arrangement, has the right length for the groove, cuts through the mix 🤔

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty much 😊

  • @aleksandrpotylko
    @aleksandrpotylko ปีที่แล้ว

    I like to add little bit overdrive saturation and other type distortions. Just a bit of something else

  • @kaitlynsitro5596
    @kaitlynsitro5596 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi Alice - great vid as always! quick question... what do you recommend tuning the kick to? the root note of the song?

  • @wackerburg
    @wackerburg ปีที่แล้ว

    I just use a TR-909 and have no problems with kicks, toms, snares, hi-hats and so on 🎉

  • @chrisstage6954
    @chrisstage6954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow really useful information. Love this one 🔥

  • @alfredex22
    @alfredex22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome as always, great vid!

  • @jl9205
    @jl9205 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice. Very well done.

  • @mihovil5806
    @mihovil5806 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing tutorials yaclin ✌️✌️✌️

  • @YanickFM
    @YanickFM ปีที่แล้ว

    You're my favorite teacher

  • @ensamble6
    @ensamble6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I owe this woman a lot of my music success. Thank you Alice!

    • @josuev.rrj454
      @josuev.rrj454 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      bro he she have a sword

    • @moresnqp
      @moresnqp ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@josuev.rrj454 someones genitals is relevant to making music now?

    • @who_is_dis
      @who_is_dis ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not a woman. And that's not transphobic, just sticking to objective biological reality.

    • @psionicxxx
      @psionicxxx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@moresnqp maybe it is...

    • @LunarMoth
      @LunarMoth ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@who_is_dis It literally is transphobic

  • @RogueFire29
    @RogueFire29 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for another great video !!

  • @chaprak
    @chaprak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job!❤

  • @doktagc01
    @doktagc01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation!

  • @erikgwk
    @erikgwk ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video 🎶

  • @abelmartinezdj
    @abelmartinezdj ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always. What do you think about 909 kick and it’s extreme transient?

  • @thebarnowlsmusic
    @thebarnowlsmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    7:09 magic gem folks

  • @caputimusic
    @caputimusic ปีที่แล้ว

    in engineering i learned to cut mostly under 50hz, that for sure will sound good in any system. what is your expereince cutting under 30 or under 50?

  • @mageprometheus
    @mageprometheus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A good kick makes effective contact with the mandible. Oops, wrong channel. Another great tutorial Alice, is there no end to your talents? Love and light ❤

  • @Iyamcole
    @Iyamcole 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing tips

  • @vitalijusmacas1629
    @vitalijusmacas1629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks 👍

  • @RobyFayermusic
    @RobyFayermusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love ur stuff !

  • @bigboyrenki
    @bigboyrenki 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you do a similar video for snares or hihats?

    • @Alice-Efe
      @Alice-Efe  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe😊

    • @bigboyrenki
      @bigboyrenki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alice-Efe Awesome :) I found this one to be very helpful!

    • @taborgreat
      @taborgreat 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plz

  • @ephjaymusic
    @ephjaymusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing tutorials!!!

  • @wiegraf9009
    @wiegraf9009 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are all great rules of thumb!

  • @helina-keijo9561
    @helina-keijo9561 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kick 2 is so easy to use that i can highly recommend it to everyone. D16 punchbox is allso great for dirtier kicks ✌️🔥

  • @chrthdestr
    @chrthdestr ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel the song fatigue. Idk if its just me but I can actually work myself into a sort of daze, and the main sound gets stuck in my head but not in a fun way. I learned to only work for 3-4 hours at a time before breaking