workers are not all the same. They may have laid off workers in certain areas but still need workers with a specific set of skills (AI, for example). I don't personally know that to be true, just stating a possibility.
- H1B workers got significantly hit during layoffs too. - Not all companies in the US were doing layoffs. The media mostly talks about big tech aka FAANG and the like, but there're many companies that file for H1B that didn't layoff anyone at all. - 1 million is an incorrect number, the sum across the last 3 years is closer to 500k, any by now most of those aren't jobless anymore. - 85k quota for H1B visas per year is a drop in the sea compared to the whole US tech job market. - The shortage of skilled professionals didn't go anywhere. It's pretty expensive to bring someone on H1B, up to 20k$ worth of lawyer costs and processing fees and up to 1 year of waiting before the employee gets a visa and enters the US to work, the reason why companies go for these costs is the still major shortage of people in tech sector, believe it or not.
@@valetudo1569 50% of mit, caltech and waterloo are 50% asian and 35% chinese. Ask them about AI. They consistently out-preform india across multiple areas and their first language is English.
The tech industry laid off 150,000 workers in 2024, 200,000 in 2023, and 93,000 in 2022. Many of those workers still need new jobs. The H1-B program makes it harder for American tech workers to get American tech jobs. The H1-B program enables tech companies to replace highly productive, highly trained American tech workers with cheaper foreign labor.
This is so sad. Your guest is from a law firm that specializes in getting H1B visa slaves for large American Corporations. They are probably like others and train HR groups to fabricate the need for a H1B visa. The game goes like this - advertise for a programming/IT god way in excess of what is needed, don't find them, get a H1B visa for that job listing, then hire somebody for a low salary that does a more realistic job that any number of US citizens could do. You also get to treat them like trash to boot since they can't change employers. Of course the H1B visa holder can't meet those requirements either but no one will ever check. This is about getting cheap employees that can be worked like animals and if they don't preform as demanded they get shipped out of this country. Everyone in IT know that this is a modern day form of slavery - some call it techno serfdom. The program needs to be ended once and for all.
You realize the average H1B visa holder makes $150k USD right? These aren’t stupid and cheap workers. You think companies are dishing out top salaries and paying the exorbitant government for cheap labour? Give your head a shake and read a book
Everything you said is a lie. 1) Company of any size, can hire h1b only if they can't find Americans with same skills and experience. They have to post ads, conduct interviews and prove that to government. 2) they have to advertise salary in the job posting and can't pay h1b less than what they would have paid to an American. Again, government checks pay stubs. Shortage of STEM American graduates exists due to very small no. of people going to college and even smaller number of people choosing STEM degrees. 20-30 million permanent illegals have taken American jobs and driven salaries lower. Not temp legal visitors like h1b.
@ your talking as if you exist in an alternate universe where Americans who study STEM can actually find a job and the job market is not absolutely impossible since 99% of Americans graduated college and every white collar job is completely saturated with applications. Plus companies are hiring over seas people for pennies on a dime. The H1B process is mostly to benefit from cheap labor. Paying salaries that no American would accept what makes you think theres no corruption in the world and everything is perfect ?
She expects to be trained and paid by petition fees. I like to see that happening. The petition fee keeps the USCIS run independently and not used for any other shit. Or pay for subsidies to Elon musk ventures.
I mean if there is a more qualified women she should be ……. She shouldn’t be given priority because she’s American? You want more incidents like Boeing planes falling from the sky?
The fact that 75% of H1B visas are given to Indians creates a skewed process. Canada and Mexico, closer to the US, get less than 1% of H1B visas. Even China only gets 12%. It is this skewed process that contradicts the claim of best and brightest from around the world. At best, the US is getting the best and brightest from India.
why should that matter. its free market. India is world's #1 population. India has the world's largest english speaking population. India produces 1.5million engineers per year. if chinese were fluent in English, then they would be replacing India. unless you have something racist against India, your comment makes no logical sense.
@@AnoNymous-i1o That's the point. Americans are saying that their country should not be a "free market" for the world! It should be a free market for Americans. The fact that the US attracts more H1B migrants from far off India is an anomaly. Most countries attract the most migrants from their neighbours. If corporate America requires so many Indians, then why are they not investing in India? Why is the Indian government not encouraging investments in its tech sector to employ engineers like China has done?
@@JA-pn4ji Tech industry in India is $250bn employing millions of people (5.3M as of 2023). Seems you have zero clue on whats going on in India. All the major corporates have their offices in India. Well if you dont believe in free market which is your choice, you are on the super highway to totally shipping all jobs en-masse to India. Note that for Google and Facebook, India is their #1 market. For Apple, #3. For Amazon, should be in top 5 with market share split with Walmart's Flipkart. For MS, India has the world's largest Windows userbase. All those products are global products sold to the whole globe, not just Americans. So if USA doesnt want to play ball, the jobs will be shipped permanently. Only few niche PhDs will be kept in the US. as simple as that.
1:42 Only 85,000 new H-1B petitions are approved in a calendar year. The rest are just renewals. Of the 85,000, some 20,000 are reserved for Masters graduates from US universities.
how many renewals do you think? how are you filed EB-2 GC and waiting since 1990? Dont you know this maths? there are thousands and thousands are filed EB-2 and waiting. So in general H1B was abused extremely by them and need to stoped now
How IT Jobs Works in the USA: In India, most states provide free or highly subsidized engineering education to their youth, with annual fees as low as $1,000. Additionally, local governments have granted numerous institutions the status of deemed universities, leading to an oversaturation of engineering colleges and universities. To illustrate, a single city might host hundreds of engineering colleges, many of which are now closing due to a lack of students. Most of these institutions, apart from a select few reputable ones, operate with insufficient funding. They struggle to hire qualified lecturers and lack adequate laboratories for practical training and research. As a result, these colleges often produce underqualified engineers. The Role of IT Staffing Agencies: These subpar engineers are typically recruited by IT staffing agencies, colloquially known as "body shoppers." These agencies secure contracts with IT vendors who, in turn, have partnerships with small to mid-sized IT firms in the United States. These vendors act as "preferred IT vendors" and undertake IT projects on fixed-price contracts or retainer models. The Lifecycle of the Process: 1. Initial Recruitment: Underqualified engineers are hired by staffing agencies and placed on these projects. Over time, they gain experience and control over their assignments. 2. Transition to Direct Employment: After a few years, client companies will offer many of these engineers’ full-time roles. Leveraging their new positions, they bring in additional personnel from their original vendors, earning significant commissions for each contractor they help onboard. 3. Team Replacement: Within a year, the project team often transitions to a mix of offshore and onsite personnel, effectively replacing American workers. Exploiting Loopholes in the System: • Low Initial Pay with Incentives: H1B workers are initially paid modest salaries but are gradually rewarded through commissions for onboarding more contractors from their vendors. • Information Leakage: Project details and proprietary information are frequently shared with vendors and sub-vendors. This ensures new H1B candidates are well-prepared, even for technical interviews, which are often reduced to mere formalities. • Exclusive Hiring Practices: Preferred vendors prioritize H1B candidates over American workers, often entirely excluding the latter from the recruitment process. The Bigger Picture: The system disproportionately favors H1B workers over American professionals. While prominent figures like Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy talk about how 10 to 15% of H1B holders are highly skilled and genuine, the remaining 85% exploit the system through these practices. For many Americans, this is an unwinnable race. They are sidelined by preferred IT vendors who control the hiring process, leaving them with little opportunity to compete in this deeply entrenched game.
60-70% of new H1Bs issued go to one specific country. Thats not fair especially considering there are alot of Americans who are graduating and not getting picked for these jobs. Edit: check replies, bunch of people trying to divert from point about new H1Bs issued by pointing out most people backlogged are from one specific country. Zero reading comprehension by some people
What about millions of asylum seekers, illegal immigrants, unskilled family-based GC's, and diversity visa recipients? Who takes American jobs? H1B system is broken & need to be reformed; overhauling the complete program & targeting specific country is more of racial agenda than benefit to US economy
Companies are paying the government to fund education for Americans as part of the fees paid to getting an H1B VISA. What is the government doing with this money? What is the current status of Americans in training for the jobs for which H1Bs were hired? Why isn't the ignorant media asking these questions?
@ I learned it isn’t being used to bring in exceptional workers in most instances and that its primary use is for cheaper labor that is more or less stuck with employer.
@@Healing.Tortruer Do you know what's the hiring process in FAANG companies.... Do you know the vetting process... One needs to clear 7-8 rounds of interview to get into Google/ Amazon... Just consider if someone is unskilled would the company hire them to entertain and pay 150K-200K. There is always a fraction that does go wrong as everything in this world is not 100% perfect. If you are listening and getting provoked then you need to question yourself 100 times... Every time people say cheap labor I just laugh at them the highest avg salary by ethinc group in USA is Indian with $105K.... Fight for other things too where your pockets are robbed everyday .... I go to a car dealership and they quote $1850 for control arm replacement where as a local mexican fixed it for $200 by getting the parts from Oreilly. Mechanics charge $60-$90 per hour and most of them are again Mexicans ....now fight that American's need those jobs as they are high paying jobs but you guys don't need that because you guys just read and provoked by media and you start hating without even considering the other side.
Average H1B earns 120k which is 2.5 times of US national average, I don’t know how these people still call these cheap labor. On top of the pay, companies pay 20-25K USCIS Fee, Lawyer fee for every 2/3 years for candidates immigration, most of these H1Bs from Asia spend 3-5K annually on flying back and forth, a whole economy is created, instead of concentrating on illegal migration at the border which is draining the economy, some people busy killing the golden goose 😂
"Cheap" is relative to industry. Is 40K a year cheap? 25K? 60K? All of those could look cheap or expensive dependent upon what job title you attach to it.
Taiwan is paving a way to attract the H1B workers. Indians gel with most Americans well, but if you throw all the Indians, and somehow Indians go to Taiwan and team up with the Chinese, I don’t think American tech/engineering businesses and establishment would like that. But if the common people do not like us and pose a threat to our existence, we will leave the country. It is business on good terms, no need to get riled up.
@@Nina-eo8vpYes average Indians do not trust the Chinese establishment so much, and have good faith with the American government, hence they come here and not in China. But if America throws out all the Indians, then surely they will look for an alternative. Some will go back home, some can go to Taiwan, and we know who actually runs Taiwan, and if those Indians provide good feedback about their experience in that country, that’s how other Indians then try to go there. It is simple human dynamics.
@@stormtrooper8420I know I cannot change your views. Try to see it thru some statistics, you might see some things clearly then. Do your own research, I am tired to convince you. My thought is simple, if USA govt do not like us, either stop paying us or reject all our visas. We will anyway not work for free, we provide a service only when we are hired to do it.
People are just overcomplicating the issue. There should be a simple cap on foreign employees per company as a percentage of their total employees. 10-20pc is maybe fair. The issue is india based firms like Tcs, infosys, cognizant have majority of their US workforce coming from India on H1Bs. That simply shouldnt be allowed. If you want to operate in US, hire 80-90pc US citizens otherwise leave.
@@Sticklemako Don't think you get how massive a revenue loss that would be for all those firms. No large MNC tech firm can ever leave the US. They could cut workforce but they would still be forced to hire more Americans.
@ Sure about that? Certain employers qualify as cap-exempt, offering a pathway for foreign workers to secure an H-1B visa without being subject to the quota. This means a cap-exempt employer can file an H-1B petition at any time of the year and the foreign worker can begin work as soon as the H-1B petition is approved.
Do AI software engineers, data scientists and machine learning engineers qualify for this cap? Well no, yet they are your LeBron James that everyone wants and is essential for America.
No one I've seen has given that breakdown. Elektrek reported that Tesla laid off 15,000 US workers and hired 2000 H1B workers. What they didn't report is that "US workers" includes all- citizens, green card holders and those on visa. Possibly thousands of visa holders were impacted during the Tesla layoffs as well. Also the 2000 visa workers that Tesla hired later are unlikely to be direct replacements for the same job roles as US citizens, as that would be illegal.
If there are enough American engineers, they would be hired. H1B visas exists because there is a shortage of qualified people. America reaps a huge economic dividend from so many qualified people working here. Most of the MAGA QAnon cultists cannot put two sentences in English together, let alone code.
Both H1-B visa and green card process needs to be amended. People from India has to be on H1-B visa for long time since the green card waiting time for Indian is quite high (for India, waiting time could be 20 years whereas other country has to wait for 2-3 years for the same skill). Therefore people from India on H1-B visa has to be on mercy of company to stay in this country. These cause exploitation of H1-B folks from India. As far as salary is concerned, the H1-B requires LCA certification from DOL which ensures the salary is not less for the position/skill/location, therefore if they are underpaid I assume DOL needs to revise the salary requirement.
They been working on this for 35 years with money from the system and its still not fixed? Sounds those in charge of that US training program need to be replaced because they are failing.
Another alternative is to admit more Americans in elite US universities, which tend to have a very low admission rate. It's not surprising that companies like H1B Visas because they help keep US hi-tech salaries "under control". The people that go to the USA with a visa do it to earn more, not less, whereas a US citizen loses bargaining power if they compete against people that are willing to earn less, as long as it's more than in their home country.
Think of it, if they were just cut n paste, will all these hi tech companies be hiring them by paying well over 100K annually in addition to stock grants?
If they wanted cheap labor, they could’ve hired people in other markets like India, China, Africa or other Asian markets where labor is cheaper, instead they aren’t idiots to be willing to accept the terms of H1B where they are forced to pay higher of the prevailing wage for the position. If pay is higher than equivalent American employees, then it’s literally expensive labor, I don’t know where is the delusion of cheap labor coming from.
I feel resentment is not against letting non-citizens come into this country rather it is against those folks/companies who mis-use Visas for whatever purposes.
then you should go and see/hear what they are saying against Indians. its pure racism of the worst kind. if you found anyone misusing visa, you can sue them and kick them out of the country. which is not happening. just pure speculation and victimhood
You should look around , there are plenty of Indian Companies who would file for visas even though there are no positions available and falsify documents just so they can get most visas . You need to open up your eyes and look around .
Hahaha all things is misuse in little amount. nothing new in it . People are jealous against Indians why they are taking all high paying jobs and majority H1B visa are taken by Indians
The difference between quality of H1B and American workers is clear from companies like Boeing …… unless you want American technology to fail like planes falling out the sky Americans should be competing with high tech and highly skilled H1Bs
Also if someone think company should hire american only, these will cause company to reallocate to the country of talent. Therefore one should look at the possibilities of fixing the loophole rather than shutting down the program. Also this H1-B issue reflects the hatred (racism) towards Indian in American society. If the discussion was only pivoted to H1-B, it would have been fine. Also who is the real American?
Companies have wanted cheap labor since before I was born. My dad worked in automotive safety and he was forced to train his under-qualified replacement before getting laid off. The entire auto industry followed suit in the early 2000s, moving to Mexico, China, and other countries to reduce labor costs. They kept their head quarters in the US for tax and regulatory purposes. This is largely why, when they asked for a bailout during the housing crisis in 2008 it was widely unpopular in the midwest. Most things are manufactured in China and other parts of the world today because they have a lower cost of living, and the United States military funded by your taxes patrols most sea shipping routes facilitating cheap international trade. I am a software engineer. I have a job at the moment but I interviewed at Tesla about a year ago just to sharpen my interviewing skills and see what else was out there. All of the people I met throughout the interview process except for the recruiter and the hiring manager were all Indian. The position in question wanted me to work 70 - 80 hours a week on site in San Fransisco, one of the most expensive cities to live in in the world, with less pay and benefits in contrast to my current remote company. When I asked about work life balance, one young Indian engineer looked at me like I was a space alien. I had nothing against the individuals i interviewed with despite their rather obvious biases against me during the interview process... In fact I felt bad for them. They work long hours for pay just above the poverty line of the location they are required to work, with little in the way of competitive benefits. On top of this, the company is sponsoring their visa, so if they get laid off or fired they either go back to India Immediately or they have a short time frame to find another massive company to sponsor their visa and probably treat them the same way. I think its dismissive to look at this problem and strip out all of the nuance by suggesting that anyone that gets in the way of you getting stuff as cheaply as possible is "racist" or "hateful". If Indians were really the best engineers in the world, they'd be flooding China and Europe too, but they aren't so I don't buy the premise.
@ Thank you for your response (mean it). I really appreciate your honest comment. As far as salary is concerned, the H1-B requires LCA certification from DOL which ensures the salary is not less for the position/skill/location, therefore if they are underpaid I assume DOL needs to revise the salary requirement. Why I believe this whole anti-H1B movement partly (if not fully) driven by racism: -look at some right folks what/how they are talking about Indians? - I know people from India was hit by eggs on the road by certain section of society - in my community one gentle man suggested they becoming minority - many experience… Anyway some are driven by insecurity, and some may be due to hatred. Some are purely driven by the success of Indian community in US. As far as Indian engineer going to Europe/China is concerned, they do have great presence there including Japan. In some cases, people learn different language (like Japanese, German..) … ! The reason is simple people looking for better life. We can go on snd on.
@@aniconic3424 "If Indians were really the best engineers in the world, they'd be flooding China and Europe too, but they aren't so I don't buy the premise." - good point. My experience was that the best developers (if you need the impossible done) were located in the slavic countries.
It’s a lose lose for the workers. Those on visas are tied to low paying and over worked positions. Those US workers with tech skills are transient looking for the next job as they the company is looking for someone with a visa taking their position. Put them in a performance review or if they are lucky offer them another empty role in the company. Rinse and repeat. Put it like this. Companies look to see if outsourcing is possible/feasible first if not they look for a visa worker. If no visa worker is available at the time they will hire a US worker until someone with a visa is approved. The only one winning is the company. Creates a terrible work environment but allows for cheap labor with not always the best quality or skill to do the job.
I think if the H-1B was capped - with the cap approved by congress and with a clause to set salaries at 80% of the market rate then most folks would have no problem with the program.
yes, the program has been around for a long time. The government should have enough statistics. I remember there were some tax benefits for hiring locals which has changed.
are you idi0t ? the market rate is determined by the govt. its defined by state vs job role. H1Bs cannot be hired less than that market rate ie they are doing it at 100%. this is the minimum so companes would go into bidding war and quote higher than the state determined "prevailing wage". most folks have problem because they have been misinformed
@@nb6525that's not the point of H1b. It's about finding people where there are NO qualified citizens in the entire country. The system is being abused for cheap labor.
I'm a Linux sysadmin from Eastern Europe. I would be mad happy to work as one for $15 per hour. And trust me, I can do the job very well. So, dear Americans, think about that.
Don't compare canada with America and what is indian people crime rate in canada?? . I can confirm it's lower then any community or bottom 1-3 number But still they are doing so many racism against Indian people
@@AaronGrady-e1omajority of them are indians so no they don't. Indians need to wait 100+ years for green card, unlike any other country, which needs only 6 ish months.
yeah, because H1b is term limited and due to high demand, big techs wont get loads of visa enough !! The problem I think is the consultancy bagging loads of em, much bigger than big tech
When people are talking about H1B's again and again ....also consider the consensus decision from the universities across US... Most of the master programs are filled with international students as domestic students already have a huge loan to pay off after under graduation as their parents don't support to pay fee for education. If master programs are not filled with students then universities lose out-of-state fee which are huge and essential to support paying admin expenses, research and there by jobs both faculty & staff will be impacted significantly. Its a misconception that H1b's are preferred over Citizen's and that's not true. Where did Elon Musk (Tesla / SpaceX ) come from ? Where did Jensen Huang (Nvidia) come from ? Where did Lisa Su (AMD) come from?. STEM programs needs to be encouraged in schools and even today most of the STEM program's are dominated by south asian students in USA by percentage counts and that's quite alarming.
I think it’s really fun people act like those who don’t like this “aren’t looking at the data.” We’ve had Biden for the last 4 years and they just showed that h-1b visas were significantly lower during that period, so maybe, just maybe, the salaries for h-1b visas over the last 4 years might be different compared to the next 4. I don’t care about either side politically, but if y’all are gonna sit there and argue about data make sure you use accurate comparisons to prove your point. God
Indians work there , work for the companies , be the part of the team. And even Indian Americans donot become burden on the USA , they are 1% of the population and pay 6 % of the taxes . How can you unrecognize that ? Literally they are paying 6 times more taxes than average American .
@ Are you kidding me? They are paying the same taxes as everyone else and they don’t need to pay SSN either. Indian Americans vs Indian from India are 2 different groups of people
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This is so sad. Your guest is from a law firm that specializes in getting H1B visa slaves for large American Corporations. They are probably like others and train HR groups to fabricate the need for a H1B visa. The game goes like this - advertise for a programming/IT god way in excess of what is needed, don't find them, get a H1B visa for that job listing, then hire somebody for a low salary that does a more realistic job that any number of US citizens could do. You also get to treat them like trash to boot since they can't change employers. Of course the H1B visa holder can't meet those requirements either but no one will ever check. This is about getting cheap employees that can be worked like animals and if they don't preform as demanded they get shipped out of this country. Everyone in IT know that this is a modern day form of slavery - some call it techno serfdom. The program needs to be ended once and for all.
Tech companies laid off 1 million workers but they have filed 400k H1B 😂
workers are not all the same. They may have laid off workers in certain areas but still need workers with a specific set of skills (AI, for example). I don't personally know that to be true, just stating a possibility.
- H1B workers got significantly hit during layoffs too.
- Not all companies in the US were doing layoffs. The media mostly talks about big tech aka FAANG and the like, but there're many companies that file for H1B that didn't layoff anyone at all.
- 1 million is an incorrect number, the sum across the last 3 years is closer to 500k, any by now most of those aren't jobless anymore.
- 85k quota for H1B visas per year is a drop in the sea compared to the whole US tech job market.
- The shortage of skilled professionals didn't go anywhere. It's pretty expensive to bring someone on H1B, up to 20k$ worth of lawyer costs and processing fees and up to 1 year of waiting before the employee gets a visa and enters the US to work, the reason why companies go for these costs is the still major shortage of people in tech sector, believe it or not.
shocked that im seeing this comment
@@valetudo1569 50% of mit, caltech and waterloo are 50% asian and 35% chinese. Ask them about AI. They consistently out-preform india across multiple areas and their first language is English.
@@ildar5184 Not 3 years buddy, atleast 6 years. Quit being dishonest
The tech industry laid off 150,000 workers in 2024, 200,000 in 2023, and 93,000 in 2022. Many of those workers still need new jobs. The H1-B program makes it harder for American tech workers to get American tech jobs. The H1-B program enables tech companies to replace highly productive, highly trained American tech workers with cheaper foreign labor.
100% true. I am Recent CS grad got my degree May 2024 and its 2025 now have applied more than 500 job applications. No job yet.
@@Maher.UNT600congratulations you played yourself
@@oldschooloakland i got 30k loan that i started to pay with interest. 😓
A big percentage of those layoffs were H1B workers
But those 150k American workers were of terrible quality and lazy
This is so sad. Your guest is from a law firm that specializes in getting H1B visa slaves for large American Corporations. They are probably like others and train HR groups to fabricate the need for a H1B visa. The game goes like this - advertise for a programming/IT god way in excess of what is needed, don't find them, get a H1B visa for that job listing, then hire somebody for a low salary that does a more realistic job that any number of US citizens could do. You also get to treat them like trash to boot since they can't change employers. Of course the H1B visa holder can't meet those requirements either but no one will ever check. This is about getting cheap employees that can be worked like animals and if they don't preform as demanded they get shipped out of this country. Everyone in IT know that this is a modern day form of slavery - some call it techno serfdom. The program needs to be ended once and for all.
Some one had to say it!
if they are cheap why arent you taking them to court ? its illegal to hire them cheap
You realize the average H1B visa holder makes $150k USD right? These aren’t stupid and cheap workers. You think companies are dishing out top salaries and paying the exorbitant government for cheap labour? Give your head a shake and read a book
Everything you said is a lie.
1) Company of any size, can hire h1b only if they can't find Americans with same skills and experience. They have to post ads, conduct interviews and prove that to government.
2) they have to advertise salary in the job posting and can't pay h1b less than what they would have paid to an American. Again, government checks pay stubs.
Shortage of STEM American graduates exists due to very small no. of people going to college and even smaller number of people choosing STEM degrees.
20-30 million permanent illegals have taken American jobs and driven salaries lower. Not temp legal visitors like h1b.
@ your talking as if you exist in an alternate universe where Americans who study STEM can actually find a job and the job market is not absolutely impossible since 99% of Americans graduated college and every white collar job is completely saturated with applications. Plus companies are hiring over seas people for pennies on a dime. The H1B process is mostly to benefit from cheap labor. Paying salaries that no American would accept what makes you think theres no corruption in the world and everything is perfect ?
This woman should be replaced by an H1B visa, ans let see how she likes it
exactly
She expects to be trained and paid by petition fees. I like to see that happening. The petition fee keeps the USCIS run independently and not used for any other shit. Or pay for subsidies to Elon musk ventures.
Actually, she will. Have been able to handle several legal issues using AI (it is much better than a lawyer).
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I mean if there is a more qualified women she should be ……. She shouldn’t be given priority because she’s American? You want more incidents like Boeing planes falling from the sky?
The fact that 75% of H1B visas are given to Indians creates a skewed process. Canada and Mexico, closer to the US, get less than 1% of H1B visas. Even China only gets 12%. It is this skewed process that contradicts the claim of best and brightest from around the world. At best, the US is getting the best and brightest from India.
Nor the cream from India too. It's a small percentage of the best and mostly cheap labor with mediocre college degrees
why should that matter. its free market. India is world's #1 population. India has the world's largest english speaking population. India produces 1.5million engineers per year. if chinese were fluent in English, then they would be replacing India. unless you have something racist against India, your comment makes no logical sense.
China should get 0 H1B visas. There have been too many documented cases of foreign/industrial espionage by Chinese nationals working in the US.
@@AnoNymous-i1o That's the point. Americans are saying that their country should not be a "free market" for the world! It should be a free market for Americans.
The fact that the US attracts more H1B migrants from far off India is an anomaly. Most countries attract the most migrants from their neighbours.
If corporate America requires so many Indians, then why are they not investing in India? Why is the Indian government not encouraging investments in its tech sector to employ engineers like China has done?
@@JA-pn4ji Tech industry in India is $250bn employing millions of people (5.3M as of 2023). Seems you have zero clue on whats going on in India. All the major corporates have their offices in India. Well if you dont believe in free market which is your choice, you are on the super highway to totally shipping all jobs en-masse to India. Note that for Google and Facebook, India is their #1 market. For Apple, #3. For Amazon, should be in top 5 with market share split with Walmart's Flipkart. For MS, India has the world's largest Windows userbase. All those products are global products sold to the whole globe, not just Americans. So if USA doesnt want to play ball, the jobs will be shipped permanently. Only few niche PhDs will be kept in the US. as simple as that.
1:42 Only 85,000 new H-1B petitions are approved in a calendar year. The rest are just renewals.
Of the 85,000, some 20,000 are reserved for Masters graduates from US universities.
So, that just means 85000 legal US residenis can't get a job -
@@mwfolsomWrong. The requirement is that first they advertise the job for a citizen and did not find one.
how many renewals do you think? how are you filed EB-2 GC and waiting since 1990? Dont you know this maths? there are thousands and thousands are filed EB-2 and waiting. So in general H1B was abused extremely by them and need to stoped now
How IT Jobs Works in the USA: In India, most states provide free or highly subsidized engineering education to their youth, with annual fees as low as $1,000. Additionally, local governments have granted numerous institutions the status of deemed universities, leading to an oversaturation of engineering colleges and universities. To illustrate, a single city might host hundreds of engineering colleges, many of which are now closing due to a lack of students.
Most of these institutions, apart from a select few reputable ones, operate with insufficient funding. They struggle to hire qualified lecturers and lack adequate laboratories for practical training and research. As a result, these colleges often produce underqualified engineers.
The Role of IT Staffing Agencies: These subpar engineers are typically recruited by IT staffing agencies, colloquially known as "body shoppers." These agencies secure contracts with IT vendors who, in turn, have partnerships with small to mid-sized IT firms in the United States. These vendors act as "preferred IT vendors" and undertake IT projects on fixed-price contracts or retainer models.
The Lifecycle of the Process:
1. Initial Recruitment: Underqualified engineers are hired by staffing agencies and placed on these projects. Over time, they gain experience and control over their assignments.
2. Transition to Direct Employment: After a few years, client companies will offer many of these engineers’ full-time roles. Leveraging their new positions, they bring in additional personnel from their original vendors, earning significant commissions for each contractor they help onboard.
3. Team Replacement: Within a year, the project team often transitions to a mix of offshore and onsite personnel, effectively replacing American workers.
Exploiting Loopholes in the System:
• Low Initial Pay with Incentives: H1B workers are initially paid modest salaries but are gradually rewarded through commissions for onboarding more contractors from their vendors.
• Information Leakage: Project details and proprietary information are frequently shared with vendors and sub-vendors. This ensures new H1B candidates are well-prepared, even for technical interviews, which are often reduced to mere formalities.
• Exclusive Hiring Practices: Preferred vendors prioritize H1B candidates over American workers, often entirely excluding the latter from the recruitment process.
The Bigger Picture:
The system disproportionately favors H1B workers over American professionals. While prominent figures like Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy talk about how 10 to 15% of H1B holders are highly skilled and genuine, the remaining 85% exploit the system through these practices.
For many Americans, this is an unwinnable race. They are sidelined by preferred IT vendors who control the hiring process, leaving them with little opportunity to compete in this deeply entrenched game.
@@amols101 Yeah leave it to the companies to prove that...
It should have never been created. Scrap it ASAP and focus on prioritizing American citizens.
60-70% of new H1Bs issued go to one specific country. Thats not fair especially considering there are alot of Americans who are graduating and not getting picked for these jobs.
Edit: check replies, bunch of people trying to divert from point about new H1Bs issued by pointing out most people backlogged are from one specific country. Zero reading comprehension by some people
How is one country important here. How would it change if it goes to Europe. Maybe you guys need to sck less at maths
What about millions of asylum seekers, illegal immigrants, unskilled family-based GC's, and diversity visa recipients? Who takes American jobs? H1B system is broken & need to be reformed; overhauling the complete program & targeting specific country is more of racial agenda than benefit to US economy
You don’t get it, THEY DONT CARE ABOUT AMERICANS, ITS ALL ABOUT THE DOLLAR AND PROFIT
Maybe you need to suck less at spelling.
@@logicsandtrolls3616 _"tell me you are racist without being a racist"_
Companies are paying the government to fund education for Americans as part of the fees paid to getting an H1B VISA. What is the government doing with this money? What is the current status of Americans in training for the jobs for which H1Bs were hired? Why isn't the ignorant media asking these questions?
H1B started in 1990 so remember this means we had 35 years of training.
It sounds like it is being abused and exploited the more I learn about it.
That simply means you are not leaning from the right sources.
@ So who do you consider to be the right source?
What did you learn and how its abused? Just explain in 2 points?
@ I learned it isn’t being used to bring in exceptional workers in most instances and that its primary use is for cheaper labor that is more or less stuck with employer.
@@Healing.Tortruer Do you know what's the hiring process in FAANG companies.... Do you know the vetting process... One needs to clear 7-8 rounds of interview to get into Google/ Amazon... Just consider if someone is unskilled would the company hire them to entertain and pay 150K-200K. There is always a fraction that does go wrong as everything in this world is not 100% perfect. If you are listening and getting provoked then you need to question yourself 100 times... Every time people say cheap labor I just laugh at them the highest avg salary by ethinc group in USA is Indian with $105K.... Fight for other things too where your pockets are robbed everyday .... I go to a car dealership and they quote $1850 for control arm replacement where as a local mexican fixed it for $200 by getting the parts from Oreilly. Mechanics charge $60-$90 per hour and most of them are again Mexicans ....now fight that American's need those jobs as they are high paying jobs but you guys don't need that because you guys just read and provoked by media and you start hating without even considering the other side.
They aren't the best and brightest. They're the least expensive.
Elon Musk, Satya Nadela and Sunder Pichai were all H1B hires. Don't we want more of those to keep America competitive? MAGA
Average H1B earns 120k which is 2.5 times of US national average, I don’t know how these people still call these cheap labor. On top of the pay, companies pay 20-25K USCIS Fee, Lawyer fee for every 2/3 years for candidates immigration, most of these H1Bs from Asia spend 3-5K annually on flying back and forth, a whole economy is created, instead of concentrating on illegal migration at the border which is draining the economy, some people busy killing the golden goose 😂
Suddenly 20-30 million permanent illegals are fine, but 60k legal temp workers are the problem 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Because they’re not competing with McDonald’s fryer boys or your unemployed grifter
120k is low in tech, especially if they live in California, New York, or the like. They shouldn't be replacing Americans.
"Cheap" is relative to industry. Is 40K a year cheap? 25K? 60K? All of those could look cheap or expensive dependent upon what job title you attach to it.
@@johnnyq4260 it's not low in any place. those called it's cheap don't have brain
Taiwan is paving a way to attract the H1B workers. Indians gel with most Americans well, but if you throw all the Indians, and somehow Indians go to Taiwan and team up with the Chinese, I don’t think American tech/engineering businesses and establishment would like that. But if the common people do not like us and pose a threat to our existence, we will leave the country. It is business on good terms, no need to get riled up.
Does India look like a country filled with competent people??
India have among the most unproductive workforce in the world
Indians teaming up with Chinese and vice versa😂😂. Will never happen and you know it
@@Nina-eo8vpYes average Indians do not trust the Chinese establishment so much, and have good faith with the American government, hence they come here and not in China. But if America throws out all the Indians, then surely they will look for an alternative. Some will go back home, some can go to Taiwan, and we know who actually runs Taiwan, and if those Indians provide good feedback about their experience in that country, that’s how other Indians then try to go there. It is simple human dynamics.
@@stormtrooper8420I know I cannot change your views. Try to see it thru some statistics, you might see some things clearly then. Do your own research, I am tired to convince you. My thought is simple, if USA govt do not like us, either stop paying us or reject all our visas. We will anyway not work for free, we provide a service only when we are hired to do it.
@@sayantabarman8200 sadly US companies love cheap slave labor.
People are just overcomplicating the issue. There should be a simple cap on foreign employees per company as a percentage of their total employees. 10-20pc is maybe fair. The issue is india based firms like Tcs, infosys, cognizant have majority of their US workforce coming from India on H1Bs. That simply shouldnt be allowed. If you want to operate in US, hire 80-90pc US citizens otherwise leave.
They will just leave 😆. It's not really that complicated.. indian businesses adapt really quickly.
@@Sticklemako Don't think you get how massive a revenue loss that would be for all those firms. No large MNC tech firm can ever leave the US. They could cut workforce but they would still be forced to hire more Americans.
what if you plot number of layoffs of Americans vs H1B visa count per year...?
As Elon pointed out. Not all software engineers are equal.
H1B visa count per year is capped at 85k, the chart is about applications, out of which 85k maximum are approved.
@ Sure about that?
Certain employers qualify as cap-exempt, offering a pathway for foreign workers to secure an H-1B visa without being subject to the quota. This means a cap-exempt employer can file an H-1B petition at any time of the year and the foreign worker can begin work as soon as the H-1B petition is approved.
Do AI software engineers, data scientists and machine learning engineers qualify for this cap? Well no, yet they are your LeBron James that everyone wants and is essential for America.
No one I've seen has given that breakdown. Elektrek reported that Tesla laid off 15,000 US workers and hired 2000 H1B workers. What they didn't report is that "US workers" includes all- citizens, green card holders and those on visa. Possibly thousands of visa holders were impacted during the Tesla layoffs as well. Also the 2000 visa workers that Tesla hired later are unlikely to be direct replacements for the same job roles as US citizens, as that would be illegal.
Its not what I voted for, Keep American Jobs for American People. MAKE America Great Again . We have the people.
If there are enough American engineers, they would be hired. H1B visas exists because there is a shortage of qualified people. America reaps a huge economic dividend from so many qualified people working here. Most of the MAGA QAnon cultists cannot put two sentences in English together, let alone code.
Americans are slow😂
Trump, Elon and Vivek don't care one bit about Americans.
Oh, when it comes to you, than it's not about free market and meritocracy?
Both H1-B visa and green card process needs to be amended. People from India has to be on H1-B visa for long time since the green card waiting time for Indian is quite high (for India, waiting time could be 20 years whereas other country has to wait for 2-3 years for the same skill). Therefore people from India on H1-B visa has to be on mercy of company to stay in this country. These cause exploitation of H1-B folks from India.
As far as salary is concerned, the H1-B requires LCA certification from DOL which ensures the salary is not less for the position/skill/location, therefore if they are underpaid I assume DOL needs to revise the salary requirement.
@RK-bw8tu DOL is also taking lot of time to properly include inflation changes.....
Did her pimp give her that gold chain?
They been working on this for 35 years with money from the system and its still not fixed? Sounds those in charge of that US training program need to be replaced because they are failing.
Each one of those companies must hire one American for each one of the cut and paste coders from Asia. Let's stop pretending they hired geniuses.
Another alternative is to admit more Americans in elite US universities, which tend to have a very low admission rate. It's not surprising that companies like H1B Visas because they help keep US hi-tech salaries "under control". The people that go to the USA with a visa do it to earn more, not less, whereas a US citizen loses bargaining power if they compete against people that are willing to earn less, as long as it's more than in their home country.
Very true
Think of it, if they were just cut n paste, will all these hi tech companies be hiring them by paying well over 100K annually in addition to stock grants?
If they wanted cheap labor, they could’ve hired people in other markets like India, China, Africa or other Asian markets where labor is cheaper, instead they aren’t idiots to be willing to accept the terms of H1B where they are forced to pay higher of the prevailing wage for the position. If pay is higher than equivalent American employees, then it’s literally expensive labor, I don’t know where is the delusion of cheap labor coming from.
Must hire one american sounds much like DEI that the trumpsters are fighting so hard, murica is a circus.
I feel resentment is not against letting non-citizens come into this country rather it is against those folks/companies who mis-use Visas for whatever purposes.
then you should go and see/hear what they are saying against Indians. its pure racism of the worst kind. if you found anyone misusing visa, you can sue them and kick them out of the country. which is not happening. just pure speculation and victimhood
You should look around , there are plenty of Indian Companies who would file for visas even though there are no positions available and falsify documents just so they can get most visas .
You need to open up your eyes and look around .
Hahaha all things is misuse in little amount. nothing new in it . People are jealous against Indians why they are taking all high paying jobs and majority H1B visa are taken by Indians
The difference between quality of H1B and American workers is clear from companies like Boeing …… unless you want American technology to fail like planes falling out the sky Americans should be competing with high tech and highly skilled H1Bs
Massive layoffs
Also if someone think company should hire american only, these will cause company to reallocate to the country of talent. Therefore one should look at the possibilities of fixing the loophole rather than shutting down the program.
Also this H1-B issue reflects the hatred (racism) towards Indian in American society. If the discussion was only pivoted to H1-B, it would have been fine.
Also who is the real American?
Companies have wanted cheap labor since before I was born. My dad worked in automotive safety and he was forced to train his under-qualified replacement before getting laid off. The entire auto industry followed suit in the early 2000s, moving to Mexico, China, and other countries to reduce labor costs. They kept their head quarters in the US for tax and regulatory purposes. This is largely why, when they asked for a bailout during the housing crisis in 2008 it was widely unpopular in the midwest.
Most things are manufactured in China and other parts of the world today because they have a lower cost of living, and the United States military funded by your taxes patrols most sea shipping routes facilitating cheap international trade.
I am a software engineer. I have a job at the moment but I interviewed at Tesla about a year ago just to sharpen my interviewing skills and see what else was out there. All of the people I met throughout the interview process except for the recruiter and the hiring manager were all Indian. The position in question wanted me to work 70 - 80 hours a week on site in San Fransisco, one of the most expensive cities to live in in the world, with less pay and benefits in contrast to my current remote company. When I asked about work life balance, one young Indian engineer looked at me like I was a space alien. I had nothing against the individuals i interviewed with despite their rather obvious biases against me during the interview process... In fact I felt bad for them. They work long hours for pay just above the poverty line of the location they are required to work, with little in the way of competitive benefits. On top of this, the company is sponsoring their visa, so if they get laid off or fired they either go back to India Immediately or they have a short time frame to find another massive company to sponsor their visa and probably treat them the same way.
I think its dismissive to look at this problem and strip out all of the nuance by suggesting that anyone that gets in the way of you getting stuff as cheaply as possible is "racist" or "hateful". If Indians were really the best engineers in the world, they'd be flooding China and Europe too, but they aren't so I don't buy the premise.
@ Thank you for your response (mean it). I really appreciate your honest comment.
As far as salary is concerned, the H1-B requires LCA certification from DOL which ensures the salary is not less for the position/skill/location, therefore if they are underpaid I assume DOL needs to revise the salary requirement.
Why I believe this whole anti-H1B movement partly (if not fully) driven by racism:
-look at some right folks what/how they are talking about Indians?
- I know people from India was hit by eggs on the road by certain section of society
- in my community one gentle man suggested they becoming minority
- many experience…
Anyway some are driven by insecurity, and some may be due to hatred. Some are purely driven by the success of Indian community in US.
As far as Indian engineer going to Europe/China is concerned, they do have great presence there including Japan. In some cases, people learn different language (like Japanese, German..) … ! The reason is simple people looking for better life.
We can go on snd on.
@@aniconic3424 "If Indians were really the best engineers in the world, they'd be flooding China and Europe too, but they aren't so I don't buy the premise." - good point. My experience was that the best developers (if you need the impossible done) were located in the slavic countries.
It’s a lose lose for the workers. Those on visas are tied to low paying and over worked positions. Those US workers with tech skills are transient looking for the next job as they the company is looking for someone with a visa taking their position. Put them in a performance review or if they are lucky offer them another empty role in the company. Rinse and repeat.
Put it like this. Companies look to see if outsourcing is possible/feasible first if not they look for a visa worker. If no visa worker is available at the time they will hire a US worker until someone with a visa is approved.
The only one winning is the company. Creates a terrible work environment but allows for cheap labor with not always the best quality or skill to do the job.
I think if the H-1B was capped - with the cap approved by congress and with a clause to set salaries at 80% of the market rate then most folks would have no problem with the program.
yes, the program has been around for a long time. The government should have enough statistics. I remember there were some tax benefits for hiring locals which has changed.
are you idi0t ? the market rate is determined by the govt. its defined by state vs job role. H1Bs cannot be hired less than that market rate ie they are doing it at 100%. this is the minimum so companes would go into bidding war and quote higher than the state determined "prevailing wage". most folks have problem because they have been misinformed
Nope, it's illegal to pay h1b less than what an American would be paid.
Cap is on how many h1b visas can be awarded each year. Not salary.
Tech companies laid off 1 million workers but they have filed 400k H1B
Inaccurate data
Looks like you don't understand this but not all workers are the same.
lol, what a pathetic loser are you ? level.fyi, shows ~500K laid off, and vast amount of those layoff happened in H1b !! Cry me a river, scumbag
@@nb6525that's not the point of H1b. It's about finding people where there are NO qualified citizens in the entire country.
The system is being abused for cheap labor.
I'm a Linux sysadmin from Eastern Europe. I would be mad happy to work as one for $15 per hour. And trust me, I can do the job very well. So, dear Americans, think about that.
People are not interchangeable economic units
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Just look at Canadas immigration picture.
Don't compare canada with America and what is indian people crime rate in canada?? . I can confirm it's lower then any community or bottom 1-3 number But still they are doing so many racism against Indian people
Canada was importing Khalistani gangsters from India not techies.
So why are the majority of h1b visas classified as level 1 and level2?
So out of the 1.5 million people working in Amazon in US, 9265 are H1B.
Those H1-Bs get naturalized too.
@@AaronGrady-e1o In 50 years
@@AnoNymous-i1o false.
@@AaronGrady-e1omajority of them are indians so no they don't. Indians need to wait 100+ years for green card, unlike any other country, which needs only 6 ish months.
yeah, because H1b is term limited and due to high demand, big techs wont get loads of visa enough !! The problem I think is the consultancy bagging loads of em, much bigger than big tech
Embarrassing to we Americans who voted for him.
Embarrassing to Americans that you have no info of h1b visas.
@@nb6525 we have plenty of info, the govt keeps record of it.
Lower cost H1B employees! That's what these companies need 💰💰💰
if you found a lower cost H1B, then you can take them to court. why havent you done so ?
The lack of formal education in STEM in the US is starting to show itself. Neil deGrasse Tyson pointed it out years ago.
When people are talking about H1B's again and again ....also consider the consensus decision from the universities across US... Most of the master programs are filled with international students as domestic students already have a huge loan to pay off after under graduation as their parents don't support to pay fee for education. If master programs are not filled with students then universities lose out-of-state fee which are huge and essential to support paying admin expenses, research and there by jobs both faculty & staff will be impacted significantly. Its a misconception that H1b's are preferred over Citizen's and that's not true.
Where did Elon Musk (Tesla / SpaceX ) come from ? Where did Jensen Huang (Nvidia) come from ? Where did Lisa Su (AMD) come from?.
STEM programs needs to be encouraged in schools and even today most of the STEM program's are dominated by south asian students in USA by percentage counts and that's quite alarming.
So why not the companies just move to Hyderabad and all tech work , no excuse for H1b
“The best and brightest”, right.
What company's ticker is INT??
Intel
@@lIllIIllIllIIllIl INT? dunno, but INTC = Intel Corp
seems to be mistake. careless
Intel. Who are getting a ton of money from the government.
@@HarishSudharsan is CASH a valid ticker?? seems like a hallucinated histogram
unskilled will get replaced everywhere
I had no idea that H-1B visa fees fund training for American workers. Why isn't this talked about more often? 🤔
since the H1B program been around since 1990 why hasn't the problem been solved yet?
Just the cheap labor H1B visa
I think it’s really fun people act like those who don’t like this “aren’t looking at the data.” We’ve had Biden for the last 4 years and they just showed that h-1b visas were significantly lower during that period, so maybe, just maybe, the salaries for h-1b visas over the last 4 years might be different compared to the next 4. I don’t care about either side politically, but if y’all are gonna sit there and argue about data make sure you use accurate comparisons to prove your point. God
H1B is needed, but only for the brightest, not for Indian to get green cards. Go after the companies who abuse the system.
Indians work there , work for the companies , be the part of the team.
And even Indian Americans donot become burden on the USA , they are 1% of the population and pay 6 % of the taxes .
How can you unrecognize that ?
Literally they are paying 6 times more taxes than average American .
@ Are you kidding me? They are paying the same taxes as everyone else and they don’t need to pay SSN either. Indian Americans vs Indian from India are 2 different groups of people
@@freecoder522don't care. You're not wanted here if you weren't born here.
Does CASH represents Pathward finance?
What is CASH here??
@@gaurang_bansal hallucination? like "INT"
Lies
The best they can control I mean the brightest in the world 🌎 yea the brightest.
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Thanks for the forecast! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?
This is so sad. Your guest is from a law firm that specializes in getting H1B visa slaves for large American Corporations. They are probably like others and train HR groups to fabricate the need for a H1B visa. The game goes like this - advertise for a programming/IT god way in excess of what is needed, don't find them, get a H1B visa for that job listing, then hire somebody for a low salary that does a more realistic job that any number of US citizens could do. You also get to treat them like trash to boot since they can't change employers. Of course the H1B visa holder can't meet those requirements either but no one will ever check. This is about getting cheap employees that can be worked like animals and if they don't preform as demanded they get shipped out of this country. Everyone in IT know that this is a modern day form of slavery - some call it techno serfdom. The program needs to be ended once and for all.
The equivalent salary for a citizen would probably be around 200k
I am on H1B. I work as a technical project manager in niche skill. I get 160K with all the incentives and perks. Now call me a cheap labor!
@@learnanythingforfree2131 that is cheap
@@learnanythingforfree2131 If you don't do what you are told whether it is good for Americans are not you are deported.