The definition of unrequited love! The way she borders between a once in a lifetime love, and sheer obsession is brilliant! Should have won an Oscar for this
@@sombreromalo8686 I know, I was kidding too, I knew what you meant, should have added a LOL. But she toyed the line perfectly between forever love and forever obsessed
@@cathleenwarner1778 no worries lol. I saw this movie over 20 years ago and always come back to it, even though it’s utterly heartbreaking. This and Last of the Mohicans will never get old for me.
Her near obsession over Tristan always made me wonder if Samuel had survived, would she have been a faithful partner to him? I don’t think Tristan would have crossed that line but feel she would have. It always seemed to me that she was fond of Samuel, leaned on Alfred, but loved Tristan. Personally, I preferred his relationship with Isabel II. She had an inner strength and independence that Susannah never did, and Tristan needed those qualities in a partner.
Really interesting to think about. I think if Samuel had survived, she wouldn't have crossed the line either, but her attraction to Tristan definitely would have been evident and I don't believe Samuel and Suzannah's relationship would have survived. Once Samuel came down off that love high with her, he would have noticed. And Tristan never would have hurt Samuel like that to have an affair with his spouse/fiance.
Isabelle 2 was as free as he was and understood him best, they had a simple and uncomplicated love. The relationship with Susannah was doomed from the start, her obsession tore apart the brothers and the family
It would have been rough if Samuel survived. She wanted Tristan from the second she saw him. She would have continued to obsess over him, but Tristan would have been stronger and towed the line. Her saying she wanted Isabel and Samuel to die is super creepy. But, I do believe it’s true.
When they both started crying, those kisses that she gave Tristan were so gentle and passionate, they scream “come back to me, I beg you.” She loved him too much to the point that it became an unhealthy and dangerous obsession. 😢 This is why it’s so important to see the reality and recognize when to let go.
@@ElioEVarona nope, it’s obsession. An unhealthy and destructive obsession, I might add. Susannah fell to its venom and Tristan, the villain kept getting closer which ultimately led to her demise.
@sparklegirl19 I would not change anything at all from Tristan... Seeing a beast like him crying for a woman...wow, he made me cry. Lol. I don't see obsession. I just see love.
If you watch the scene where she is introduced to the brothers, you can see the love that Alfred had for Susannah almost from moment one. Tristan however sets more of a lustful gaze upon her. He is too wild and carefree to think about love and settling down. Susannah falls deeply in love with Tristan but sadly, he doesn't feel the same for her. I think he tries to love her in his own way but he is in too deep a mourning over the loss of Samuel and I think he feels a sense of shame for having taken his brothers soon to be wife, even if he was dead. He was too messed up after the war and the timing was not on Susannah's side. Alfred would have been more her speed from the start but she only settled for him once it was clear Tristan wasn't coming back to her. And then this scene...She had to be sure it was truly over by visiting him. I know it was over but I think she needed to see if there was any feelings he may still have lingering for her. When he says, "Go home...to Alfred." She knows there is absolutely no hope. Ugh, this movie is just so heart wrenching. Poor Susannah and poor Alfred. :(
You truly nailed this one on the spot!!! I agree 100% with what you said! It's such a beautiful movie but the reality of it gets to us as well. It's so beautiful and touching.
Susannah felt guilt for Isabelles passing too. Guilt can be a killer. Wasn't even her fault or Samuels passing. He volunteered and the brothers followed.
Absolutely heartbreaking scene, the way it starts with her trying so hard not to break down but you can see in his eyes he knows what she is thinking and they just break down ugh, such subtle but beautiful acting. I adore this film!
I tried to sympathize with her. But I couldn't as much. I guess it's because in a way she didn't love herself enough to give herself time to heal After Samuel death. A girl needs healing first
@@monicaandraderandom She wasn't even griefing. He wasn't her great romance. Just a guy she agreed to get married to. Back then it was common to say yes to random marriage proposals.
She needed to LET HIM GO. She should have left the family once Tristan left. Maybe he would have found or maybe she would have at least found a man she loved. Instead she married a man she didn’t even love! Do not marry a person you don’t love. Better to be alone.
When they both started crying, those kisses that she gave Tristan were so gentle and passionate, they scream “come back to me, I beg you.” She loves him too much to the point that it became and unhealthy and dangerous obsession. 😢 This is why it’s so important to see the reality and recognize when to let go.
@@MaevaStardust yes I know he wanted her to stay, but she should have taken the next train, but Sadly she did not. Not a single person in this Movie, have a happy ending 😢
All the actors shone bright in this great flick. A total triumph for all creative efforts, cinematography, musical score, acting, directing, costuming, artistic lighting, tone, masterful. Well done all
This scene is so raw and what made me fall in love with the movie and Brad pitt. It was just bad timing for Susannah and thristan.. If only she had waited just a bit longer, they could have been together. He loved her in his own way but the guilt and death of Samuel was a huge weight on him. He felt responsible. Alfred fell in love with her the moment he saw her. Tristan was attracted to her but would never have crossed the line. She was attracted to Tristan too but loved Samuel. Alfred she never loved and married him because she thought Tristan wouldn't be back. And in this scene, Tristan did the right thing by telling her to go home to Alfred because he didn't want to cross a line with his brother coupled up with the tension btw them already. A lovely beautiful film that portrays life being messy. Timing is everything in life. Fantastic acting by all the actors. Good film. Sir Anthony Hopkins was amazing. Thanks for uploading.
She had to live with the fact that she couldn't be with him or have children. She said sometimes she dreamed she's the mother of his children I guess that will be her forever dream being that she took her own life because she couldn't be with the man that she really loved that was her life story .Oh Susannah 💕 ❤ 💗 we love your character in this film.
The scene in the cemetery when Alfred says to Tristan I followed all the rules gods and mans in the end all of them meaning the people in the Graves loved you more even my own wife great scene and powerful film.
No, he was idiotic for marrying a woman who slept with two of his brothers and was in love with one of them. He did everything right except for choosing a wife. He really did not need to choose her.
💔she’s still in love with him. He cares about her and appreciated the comfort but has clearly moved on. The way she pulled him in and and he pulled out … she always wanted love and needed someone even if she wasn’t in love and at the end, she couldn’t be with the one she really loved 💔
I think Tristan did love her. He just lost his wife, it was too soon for her to expect him to make a decision. It meant hurting his brother too. They both couldn’t do that to him and that’s why he said go home and that’s the reason she killed herself not because she thought Tristan didn’t love her. Absolutely amazing film and acting. One of my favourites.
We have evolved to breed. Your DNA is your biggest enemy. You are either briefly happy or painfully obsessed with stuff (goals, love, money). That's what life is...a meat-grinder powered by stupid unconscious instincts for reproduction and acquisition of status and resources. And all this plays tricks on your mind...and on top of that it does so in a way in which you enter into conflict with others who are victims just like you but in slightly different ways.
yeah exactly right. often in the comment section i notice people see love as a cat mouse game but i loved susannahs realness. isabel was a child. too younfg for him. this woman was worthy of love she showed it and constantly proved it which many dont do but he kept rejecting her and misleading her. sadly this is what most in reltationships do today, they dont invest where its worth investing. they lie to others. he was the ruin of her and sadly he never took responsibility for misleading her. hes a loser in my opinion. and a liar. perception even in a movie is all different. but in my view, susannah got totally destroyed for everyones bad actions as do most good kind people.
exactly. Tristan is a free spirit, but he uses people, bc of his free character he ruined Isabel and Sussanah´s lives, even Alfred´s and yet is the favorite of everyone here. it happens bc ppl see them reflected on Tristan. They act like him standing with the ones who they fancy not thinking of consequences for anothers. Tristan is a selfish character, for that would match so well in our current rotten society. The only person who Tristan loves is himself.@@empressofthemultiverse
@@barbaradenicomedia114hola perdona pero el es una persona buena y medio indio en el sentido de la palabra y guerrero y buen chico y claro es guapo lindo y a las mujeres eso les agrada . pero fuera de eso a él el Hera muy feliz y el lo que pasó es que cuando fue a la guerra y mataron a su querido hermano allí empezó todo la locura y todo lo indio que tenía le sirvió para defenderse de la gente mala como los que mataron a su hermano y ah Susana su mujer .yo viví algo similar en la vida real 😢😢
Susannah fell for Tristan the moment she seen him that’s why she didn’t want to give Alfred a chance even though she knew he would have been the better choice and she told him she would cause him pain because she love Tristan too much. Tristan didn’t cause her ruin she did it to herself, he was a family orient man who was devoted to his love ones, he was just free spirited with built in anger that started from his first love leaving (his mother) then to his baby brother death, he was a good man that had good intentions but also was fighting inner demons. He loved that girl but he Also almost stabbed her so he had to leave to find himself and he changed for her and his dad because you guys seen how his dad looked at him as he was lashing out at the bar with pity, his dad knew his son was still sad deep inside, just to come home to more bad news but he did tell her to marry another but Alfred though🤨 it could had been anybody else but hey sometimes you have to catch what life throws at you… this was a epic love story of two soulmates that could never be together because of the circumstances of how they life were set up and thoughtless decision making that occurred, I cried on almost every scene and watched this movie about 15 times💔🥰
This has to be one of the best scenes I've ever seen in my entire life and this has to be one of my favorite scenes in this movie you can just feel the pain inside of her she was in love with him so sad. ❤ she took her own life not wanting to comprehend the fact she had to live without being with him or the mother of his children 🕊 💔 😔 😢
The ironic thing is when she says she sometimes dreams that she is the mother of his children...if she had been more patient, she could have raised them with Alfred after Isabel's death and Tristan had to hide from the law. She would not have Tristan but she would have part of him with her always.
Poor Susannah! Here she understand real and unique love of Tristan was Isabel and not her. Then she maybe would have to appreciate more Alfred, which love her really.
Julia Ormond breaks my heart in this scene. I always wondered when she said "didn't I".. if she was the one who got someone to inform those gangsters of Tristan's route with his wife.
No. That wasn't necessary. They were tracking Tristan right from the moment they saw him carrying the liquor after he spoke to Alfred and Susannah at the fair. Tristan was incredibly reckless to carry the liquor on a day out with his family
Her speech on the responsibilities of women… was her fertility issues behind the pain of that topic?? 🥺. I never caught that line before. damn. This scene was already heartbreaking enough!!
Not one bad scene from opening I credits to to the froze frame as Tristan finally fought best that followed him in spirit and mind his whole life. Cinematography, music dialogue, direction and not one weak performance in the bunch
Then she wouldn’t have said it. Deep inside she sort of desired those deaths if it meant she would be with Tristan. It doesn’t mean she’s a bad person, but it shows that even the best people can have selfish desires that are buried deep in the soul, evil people act on those desires, good people don’t.
I think it was definitely true. She didn’t just love Tristan. She was obsessive over him. She was clearly disturbed that he married Isabel, who was able to make him very happy and near him beautiful children. Tristan loved Isabel in a way he didn’t love Susannah. He was so happy and at peace with her. After meeting Tristan, she never could have been happy with Samuel.
She meant it. She said it to hurt him after he pulled away from her. She was being as raw and honest as she could be in that moment and he saw her dark obsession with him and told her to go home.
I don't think Tristan was ever in love with Susanna. I think he has love for her because she is a link to Samuel. I think Isabel Two was a good spouse for Tristan. Isabel knew how to read people & situations. She knew how to approach people & when to step back. Susanna, unfortunately, seemed more deeply infatuated with Tristan than in love. Susanna was very delusional about her relationship with Tristan. What annoyed me the most with Susanna is that she ignored Tristan's grief. It's one thing to not know how to console a grieving person. It's another thing when you don't acknowledge their pain. Susanna constantly hovered over Tristan rambling about their non-existent future. Not one time did Susanna ever ask Tristan about his feelings regarding Samuel's death. Nor give him encouragement regarding his guilt over Samuel's death.
I wanted them to be together 😭 I still think he loved her in his own way! It was true love! He came back for her but it's too late! He loved Izzy but not the same way as he loved Susannah! I can see genuine love in this scene when he cried when he saw her! They're just not meant to be!😭
Também acredito que ele a amava, do modo dele! Se ela não estivesse casado com Alfred, com certeza ele ficaria com ela, e não teria se casado com Izabela II!
I think the biggest regret in this movie isn't from Tristan not being able to save his brother, or Tristan's regret/guilt of almost kissing Susannah before going off to war. the biggest regret was Susannah's from not waiting for Tristan's return. You can tell he wished she did, but she married his brother. When he said go home he meant it and Susannah knew then that she had sealed her fate by marrying Alfred
What a cruel thing for her to say to Tristan, “I wanted your brother to die” “I wanted your wife to die.” All so she could have him. His brother and his wife were the people he loved most. I think she said that hurtful stuff to him because he pulled away from her after she kisses him. She realizes he will never love her, never did, and so she cuts him deep with her words. Running through all three brothers is kinda creepy. She should have gone home after her soldier died.
Susannah feels guilty but still hopeful...Samuel is gone.. now Elizabeth II....What would she be willing to do to Alfred..??? So close and still not possible... Now she knows that there is no chance and that is why she killed herself.
I’ve seen too many clips of this movie just because of how perfect it is. Showing the imperfections of a family, proving after all that blood is thicker than “water”. I always look at the comments and I never notice anyone pointing at the main issue, the lack of a mom in your children life. The way they introduced Susannah was perfect, not looking too young, not too old. She could even be Dad’s new partner, main reason all of them were touched by her love and kindness. You can see this when they all are eating at the table, all of them trying to be courteous with her. They were missing a mom, Tristan never forgive himself for his little brother death and also for crossing the line with his fiancee, main reason at the jail he said to Susannah “go home, go to Alfred “. He crossed the line one time, he is not doing it anymore, even knowing she was his true love. Tristan also grew hating mom for leaving them. Alfred was the envy brother, he was seeking dad approval, he wanted to be better than Tristan, you see this when Dad is saying goodbye to them while going to war, he only trusted Tristan enough to keep them both safe because he knew Tristan was different. Tristan had severe PTSD, he was trying to kill everything out of rage, to the point of having severe episodes (when they’re holding him in one of the scenes). He also tried to commit suici** in that mountain only saved by the horse fear of falling down. Tristan also thought that he was rejected by God because of cursing him when Samuel died. He’s the perfect representation of pain changing your life through acceptance,guilt and sorrow. When he left he knew this was his problem, he needed to heal first, knowing he could lose everything. Sending that letter to Susannah it was probably due to his depression, thoughts making you feel less and not worth it. At the end Alfred finally gained dad approval, their last hug proved this, and forgiving Tristan, minding more family bonds. Susannah’s and Tristan love was a true tragedy, they were connected since their first moment close!
When you don t have balanced unconditional love as a child , you always seek love where u won t get it. If ur parents r insecure, u seek love in insecure partners. Suzanne was insecure and Tristan immature
I really enjoyed reading your interpretation. Someone in a comment somewhere said that even the Coronel was in love with her, and actually looking back, it makes sense, not that he would act on it. That house was very unbalanced with all those men.
Pessoas que se amam verdadeiramente a atitudes tomadas baseadas em valores errados. Só causam tristeza e destruição à sua volta. O Tristan e ela se amavam de verdade. Um amor que vai ser vivido na eternidade ❤.
Silvia's mum is 152cm,very short. With all things being equal, Silvia's dad will be either 183cm(if she took her dad's bones) or 195cm(if she combined both bones),which I settled for the latter.With her long legs,I figured her dad was over 6feet(6'4). She didn't grow well. I made up my mind to uniform her height when we go to GH,to about 173cm-175cm
You can say what ever you want. She was crazy she slipped with all three brothers come on. Isabel II knew what she wanted as a little girl she said that she was going to marry Tristan and she did. Susannah was just a flussy.
She wasn’t a floozy 🙄 and she didn’t even sleep with Samuel. It was kind of a first love. College sweethearts that never went past a kiss before he died. What did she really know about love at that point? Until Tristan. With Tristan it was passion. She fully loved him and was committed to him, but he left her and was gone for *7 years.* What was she supposed to do? Alfred loved her the way she loved Tristan and she couldn’t stay at the ranch waiting for Tristan forever. Forever got to be too long. Yes she settled for Alfred, but only really loved Tristan
@@CJLOVE23 I know, what kind of a strange life was that for Susannah being an unmarried woman just hanging out at the ranch for all those years, especially in those days just on the chance that Tristan might decide to show up someday. Marrying Alfred and having a good and prosperous life with a man who loved her was not a bad choice, but then of course Tristan had to show up and cause turmoil.
No, I think she wanted Tristen from the moment she saw him. And then had to take what she was able to get. Always hard to settle when the one thing you REALLY want is dangled before you.
Do you guys think that Susannah was truly in love with Tristan or more the idea of Tristan and what he represented: freedom, independence and an uninhibited zest for life? In the end, you just feel sorry for her because she felt hopeless without being able to have the life she envisioned with Tristan.
Obvious reasons. He was hot. She wanted passion, a hot partner like many women. She fell deeply in love I reacon. That's why she went along with Afted. Never tried to change him to be full of life. She settled for who he was because she will never feel for anyone but Tristan.
They weren't aiming to kill anyone, It was just to scare Tristan off, Unfortunately a stray bullet bounced off the wall and hit Isabelle Two . Alfred himself said it was a terrible and tragic accident.
I think that was her way to say that she realized how much she loved Tristan and that the only life she imagined for herself was being by his side and nothing else, everything else in her reality was not right for her. But mentioning Samuel and Isabel put Tristan off, because he loved them so much. But ironically, this scene shows similar traits between Susannah and Tristan, both their characters never let go of grief and guilt. She was having mixed feelings, contradictory feelings, she loved Isabel but was relieved that she died and that she had a chance with Tristan again. She and Tristan had so much trauma.
Most women find the grass on the other side, but then realize the grass is not greener than their grass at home, but then many times desire to return. I have never and will never allow that to happen, and neigher did Tristan
Only in a movie would a woman still get married with 1 of the 3 brothers after she slept with all of them.....In reality, the brothers would have slept with her and treated her like a booty call but they would never marry her. Especially not at that time
She was engaged to Samuel and at that time it would have been unlikely she slept with him. She probably didn’t. Only Tristan snd alfred. But yes you’re right in that Alfred probably wouldn’t have wanted her after she was with Tristan.
Tristan and Samuel had a conversation where they discussed Samuel was waiting till they got married and Alfred married her after she’d been with Tristan so he more than likely knew. He just loves her and thought they could be happy.
It's a dead restaurant,no one goes there.Their accoutrements are old and worn out. I think Margharita sent two people to come there as customers. Immediately I got there,I knew some of my wives wanted to spend some time in my room because they have missed me.
Juila Ormond's acting in this scene is brilliant and heartbreaking. The absolute embodiment of loss. James Horner's music is Oscar worthy.
So much pain in this scene. Years and years of pain.
The definition of unrequited love! The way she borders between a once in a lifetime love, and sheer obsession is brilliant! Should have won an Oscar for this
won Best Cinematography
@@cathleenwarner1778 I know lol, I meant in terms of the acting. Best Supporting actress for sure!
@@sombreromalo8686 I know, I was kidding too, I knew what you meant, should have added a LOL. But she toyed the line perfectly between forever love and forever obsessed
@@cathleenwarner1778 no worries lol. I saw this movie over 20 years ago and always come back to it, even though it’s utterly heartbreaking. This and Last of the Mohicans will never get old for me.
their acting is absolutely perfect in this scene
Absolutely perfection
Her near obsession over Tristan always made me wonder if Samuel had survived, would she have been a faithful partner to him? I don’t think Tristan would have crossed that line but feel she would have. It always seemed to me that she was fond of Samuel, leaned on Alfred, but loved Tristan. Personally, I preferred his relationship with Isabel II. She had an inner strength and independence that Susannah never did, and Tristan needed those qualities in a partner.
Really interesting to think about. I think if Samuel had survived, she wouldn't have crossed the line either, but her attraction to Tristan definitely would have been evident and I don't believe Samuel and Suzannah's relationship would have survived. Once Samuel came down off that love high with her, he would have noticed. And Tristan never would have hurt Samuel like that to have an affair with his spouse/fiance.
you don't know anything
Isabelle 2 was as free as he was and understood him best, they had a simple and uncomplicated love. The relationship with Susannah was doomed from the start, her obsession tore apart the brothers and the family
It would have been rough if Samuel survived. She wanted Tristan from the second she saw him. She would have continued to obsess over him, but Tristan would have been stronger and towed the line. Her saying she wanted Isabel and Samuel to die is super creepy. But, I do believe it’s true.
she was so free, she waited for him for most of her life.@@livexthexlife192
When someone you love says “go home” that’s what breaks my heart
When they both started crying, those kisses that she gave Tristan were so gentle and passionate, they scream “come back to me, I beg you.” She loved him too much to the point that it became an unhealthy and dangerous obsession. 😢
This is why it’s so important to see the reality and recognize when to let go.
Please, let's say not obsession but passion.
@@ElioEVarona nope, it’s obsession. An unhealthy and destructive obsession, I might add. Susannah fell to its venom and Tristan, the villain kept getting closer which ultimately led to her demise.
@sparklegirl19 I would not change anything at all from Tristan... Seeing a beast like him crying for a woman...wow, he made me cry. Lol. I don't see obsession. I just see love.
@@MaevaStardusteu também acho que ele foi vilão
It is one of the most sentimental scenes I have ever seen. Always cry. Julia and Brad were fantastic.
If you watch the scene where she is introduced to the brothers, you can see the love that Alfred had for Susannah almost from moment one. Tristan however sets more of a lustful gaze upon her. He is too wild and carefree to think about love and settling down. Susannah falls deeply in love with Tristan but sadly, he doesn't feel the same for her. I think he tries to love her in his own way but he is in too deep a mourning over the loss of Samuel and I think he feels a sense of shame for having taken his brothers soon to be wife, even if he was dead. He was too messed up after the war and the timing was not on Susannah's side. Alfred would have been more her speed from the start but she only settled for him once it was clear Tristan wasn't coming back to her.
And then this scene...She had to be sure it was truly over by visiting him. I know it was over but I think she needed to see if there was any feelings he may still have lingering for her. When he says, "Go home...to Alfred." She knows there is absolutely no hope. Ugh, this movie is just so heart wrenching. Poor Susannah and poor Alfred. :(
what a thorough analysis this was! I was always confused by this scene and you answered all the questions I had.👏👏👏👏
It’s just so heartbreaking
@@smitha5022 thank you 😊
You truly nailed this one on the spot!!! I agree 100% with what you said! It's such a beautiful movie but the reality of it gets to us as well. It's so beautiful and touching.
Wow! you write so well 👏🏻 should think about being columnist of some sort.
those chaste kisses that she gives him... are full of love and respect
The moment she realized she could never have him this scene cut so hard❤
Susannah felt guilt for Isabelles passing too. Guilt can be a killer. Wasn't even her fault or Samuels passing. He volunteered and the brothers followed.
She should have realized that when he married Isabelle II.
@@blueskysummit6153 she did but when Isabelle passed the grief was too much for Susannah. They were like sisters.
@@rotyler2177 Respectfully disagree. She never let go of Tristan.
Shes brilliant!everyone that has lost love has felt this....but to actually act it out in a believable way is just genius!
Yes agree
Genius?
YES!!!!!!
Absolutely heartbreaking scene, the way it starts with her trying so hard not to break down but you can see in his eyes he knows what she is thinking and they just break down ugh, such subtle but beautiful acting. I adore this film!
I could even feel her pain. Poor Susannah! I cried my eyes out in this scene 😭
I tried to sympathize with her. But I couldn't as much. I guess it's because in a way she didn't love herself enough to give herself time to heal After Samuel death. A girl needs healing first
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@@monicaandraderandom She wasn't even griefing. He wasn't her great romance. Just a guy she agreed to get married to. Back then it was common to say yes to random marriage proposals.
She needed to LET HIM GO. She should have left the family once Tristan left. Maybe he would have found or maybe she would have at least found a man she loved. Instead she married a man she didn’t even love! Do not marry a person you don’t love. Better to be alone.
THIS PART!!!! Because being intimate with three brothers is just crazy clearly the family is cursed I would’ve left and gone back to England
When they both started crying, those kisses that she gave Tristan were so gentle and passionate, they scream “come back to me, I beg you.” She loves him too much to the point that it became and unhealthy and dangerous obsession. 😢
This is why it’s so important to see the reality and recognize when to let go.
She should have left when Samuel died.
@@Ola-1114 she did tried to go, but got stuck in snow storm and William told her to stay.
@@MaevaStardust yes I know he wanted her to stay, but she should have taken the next train, but Sadly she did not. Not a single person in this Movie, have a happy ending 😢
All the actors shone bright in this great flick. A total triumph for all creative efforts, cinematography, musical score, acting, directing, costuming, artistic lighting, tone, masterful. Well done all
This scene is so raw and what made me fall in love with the movie and Brad pitt. It was just bad timing for Susannah and thristan.. If only she had waited just a bit longer, they could have been together. He loved her in his own way but the guilt and death of Samuel was a huge weight on him. He felt responsible. Alfred fell in love with her the moment he saw her. Tristan was attracted to her but would never have crossed the line. She was attracted to Tristan too but loved Samuel. Alfred she never loved and married him because she thought Tristan wouldn't be back. And in this scene, Tristan did the right thing by telling her to go home to Alfred because he didn't want to cross a line with his brother coupled up with the tension btw them already. A lovely beautiful film that portrays life being messy. Timing is everything in life. Fantastic acting by all the actors. Good film.
Sir Anthony Hopkins was amazing. Thanks for uploading.
@@BradPitt-vn8gt wow... Amazing. Is it really you? What email address? I don't see it here. Am a novice to social media.
"Um lindo filme que retrata a vida sendo uma bagunça"... Amei essa frase, e definiu bem esse grande filme!
Come ha fatto a non prendere l’oscar Julia Ormond con questo film? È assolutamente incredibile e magnifica! Si sente il dolore in ogni sua parola!
This scene makes me cry. I can feel her pain 😢 💔 😞
If this movie didn’t break your heart, you don’t have one.
Such a painful scene. Their feelings are so different at this point.
She had to live with the fact that she couldn't be with him or have children. She said sometimes she dreamed she's the mother of his children I guess that will be her forever dream being that she took her own life because she couldn't be with the man that she really loved that was her life story .Oh Susannah 💕 ❤ 💗 we love your character in this film.
The scene in the cemetery when Alfred says to Tristan I followed all the rules gods and mans in the end all of them meaning the people in the Graves loved you more even my own wife great scene and powerful film.
No, he was idiotic for marrying a woman who slept with two of his brothers and was in love with one of them. He did everything right except for choosing a wife. He really did not need to choose her.
@@plumeria66Love doesn't work in that way. It's called chemistry. People fall in love with their hearts despite the odds.
@@yl9941 A one way street chemistry which he knew and still went for.
@@plumeria66 I agree with you on everything, except that she didn't sleep with Samuel.
This movie is masterpiece 👍 best movie, memories of true human being
I need to watch the whole film again now
💔she’s still in love with him. He cares about her and appreciated the comfort but has clearly moved on. The way she pulled him in and and he pulled out … she always wanted love and needed someone even if she wasn’t in love and at the end, she couldn’t be with the one she really loved 💔
That's what you call toxic love. In real life it's not healthy at all. I saw what it did to my cousin
@@monicaandraderandom What happened?
I think Tristan did love her. He just lost his wife, it was too soon for her to expect him to make a decision. It meant hurting his brother too. They both couldn’t do that to him and that’s why he said go home and that’s the reason she killed herself not because she thought Tristan didn’t love her. Absolutely amazing film and acting. One of my favourites.
he just brought her pain and ruin.
No man or woman´s love is worthy of something like that.
We have evolved to breed. Your DNA is your biggest enemy. You are either briefly happy or painfully obsessed with stuff (goals, love, money). That's what life is...a meat-grinder powered by stupid unconscious instincts for reproduction and acquisition of status and resources. And all this plays tricks on your mind...and on top of that it does so in a way in which you enter into conflict with others who are victims just like you but in slightly different ways.
yeah exactly right. often in the comment section i notice people see love as a cat mouse game but i loved susannahs realness. isabel was a child. too younfg for him. this woman was worthy of love she showed it and constantly proved it which many dont do but he kept rejecting her and misleading her. sadly this is what most in reltationships do today, they dont invest where its worth investing. they lie to others. he was the ruin of her and sadly he never took responsibility for misleading her. hes a loser in my opinion. and a liar. perception even in a movie is all different. but in my view, susannah got totally destroyed for everyones bad actions as do most good kind people.
exactly. Tristan is a free spirit, but he uses people, bc of his free character he ruined Isabel and Sussanah´s lives, even Alfred´s and yet is the favorite of everyone here. it happens bc ppl see them reflected on Tristan. They act like him standing with the ones who they fancy not thinking of consequences for anothers. Tristan is a selfish character, for that would match so well in our current rotten society. The only person who Tristan loves is himself.@@empressofthemultiverse
@@barbaradenicomedia114hola perdona pero el es una persona buena y medio indio en el sentido de la palabra y guerrero y buen chico y claro es guapo lindo y a las mujeres eso les agrada . pero fuera de eso a él el Hera muy feliz y el lo que pasó es que cuando fue a la guerra y mataron a su querido hermano allí empezó todo la locura y todo lo indio que tenía le sirvió para defenderse de la gente mala como los que mataron a su hermano y ah Susana su mujer .yo viví algo similar en la vida real 😢😢
Agree 100%
Susannah fell for Tristan the moment she seen him that’s why she didn’t want to give Alfred a chance even though she knew he would have been the better choice and she told him she would cause him pain because she love Tristan too much. Tristan didn’t cause her ruin she did it to herself, he was a family orient man who was devoted to his love ones, he was just free spirited with built in anger that started from his first love leaving (his mother) then to his baby brother death, he was a good man that had good intentions but also was fighting inner demons. He loved that girl but he Also almost stabbed her so he had to leave to find himself and he changed for her and his dad because you guys seen how his dad looked at him as he was lashing out at the bar with pity, his dad knew his son was still sad deep inside, just to come home to more bad news but he did tell her to marry another but Alfred though🤨 it could had been anybody else but hey sometimes you have to catch what life throws at you… this was a epic love story of two soulmates that could never be together because of the circumstances of how they life were set up and thoughtless decision making that occurred, I cried on almost every scene and watched this movie about 15 times💔🥰
This has to be one of the best scenes I've ever seen in my entire life and this has to be one of my favorite scenes in this movie you can just feel the pain inside of her she was in love with him so sad. ❤ she took her own life not wanting to comprehend the fact she had to live without being with him or the mother of his children 🕊 💔 😔 😢
You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, know when to run.
The ironic thing is when she says she sometimes dreams that she is the mother of his children...if she had been more patient, she could have raised them with Alfred after Isabel's death and Tristan had to hide from the law. She would not have Tristan but she would have part of him with her always.
They should have had Susannah survive and raise Tristan and Isabelle’s children with Alfred. You are correct!!
she didn't want to raise his children while being with Alfred. She wanted to have Tristan's love.
I think she wasn't able to have children
She wished for Isabelle to die... Why would you want her kids to be raised by that lady???
If i'm not mistaken, Tristan saw her children grow and he died old
She married his brother to stay in close proximity to him. One crazy lady. And they were so gentle with her. STELLAR ACTING
That's reaching
@@verbalassassin90 y'all be romanticizing her character too much 😂😂😂 to put it simply, she was unfaithful and played both Samuel and Alfred
This movie is just too sad 😢
A heartbreaking scene! 😢
This movie was so much better than A River Runs Through It, but it never got nearly the same praise.
Agree
Poor Susannah! Here she understand real and unique love of Tristan was Isabel and not her. Then she maybe would have to appreciate more Alfred, which love her really.
Julia Ormond breaks my heart in this scene. I always wondered when she said "didn't I".. if she was the one who got someone to inform those gangsters of Tristan's route with his wife.
No. That wasn't necessary. They were tracking Tristan right from the moment they saw him carrying the liquor after he spoke to Alfred and Susannah at the fair. Tristan was incredibly reckless to carry the liquor on a day out with his family
The acting in this movie was phenomenal 👏 🎉🎉🎉
She could have had a good life with Alfred!
And Alfred was happy and in love with just her. He did not need children. Susannah was obsessed with someone she could not have.
Yes and Alfred loves her very much.
After all these years at my 52 y/o I still cry out this scene.....Go home, go home to Alfred......omg, no comfort. Just sadness, no hope. I cry.
Definitely a heartbreaking scene. She dreams about being the mother of his children…still. Very painful. Wonderful actors.
Talk about a wasted life.
That foolish girl was too obsessed with him.
She's perfect
Que d' ÉMOTION !!!!!
Her speech on the responsibilities of women… was her fertility issues behind the pain of that topic?? 🥺. I never caught that line before. damn. This scene was already heartbreaking enough!!
When she tried to kiss him lips and he hesitated and said sorry 😞 😢💔
I played Horners theme here for an hour after revisiting this movie ..such a beautiful emotional match with her pain
Not one bad scene from opening I credits to to the froze frame as Tristan finally fought best that followed him in spirit and mind his whole life. Cinematography, music dialogue, direction and not one weak performance in the bunch
I don't think Susanna meant what she said about Isobel or Samuel. In the end though she didn't get what she wanted. A beautiful film.
Then she wouldn’t have said it. Deep inside she sort of desired those deaths if it meant she would be with Tristan. It doesn’t mean she’s a bad person, but it shows that even the best people can have selfish desires that are buried deep in the soul, evil people act on those desires, good people don’t.
@@AlexFromPhoenix I agree.👍
I think it was definitely true. She didn’t just love Tristan. She was obsessive over him. She was clearly disturbed that he married Isabel, who was able to make him very happy and near him beautiful children. Tristan loved Isabel in a way he didn’t love Susannah. He was so happy and at peace with her. After meeting Tristan, she never could have been happy with Samuel.
She meant it. She said it to hurt him after he pulled away from her. She was being as raw and honest as she could be in that moment and he saw her dark obsession with him and told her to go home.
Tristán siempre amo a susan
She was pathetic and selfish...she really thought he'd want her again at that moment.
to me this is his best role
I have literally seen this movie over 100 times.
This is my favorite scene.
“Go home. Go home to Alfred.”
Cuánto dolor en ésta escena!
Çok fazla hemde tıpkı benim hayatım gibi
Mi escena favorita por siempre 😭😭😭😭
I don't think Tristan was ever in love with Susanna. I think he has love for her because she is a link to Samuel. I think Isabel Two was a good spouse for Tristan. Isabel knew how to read people & situations. She knew how to approach people & when to step back. Susanna, unfortunately, seemed more deeply infatuated with Tristan than in love. Susanna was very delusional about her relationship with Tristan. What annoyed me the most with Susanna is that she ignored Tristan's grief. It's one thing to not know how to console a grieving person. It's another thing when you don't acknowledge their pain. Susanna constantly hovered over Tristan rambling about their non-existent future. Not one time did Susanna ever ask Tristan about his feelings regarding Samuel's death. Nor give him encouragement regarding his guilt over Samuel's death.
I wanted them to be together 😭 I still think he loved her in his own way! It was true love! He came back for her but it's too late! He loved Izzy but not the same way as he loved Susannah! I can see genuine love in this scene when he cried when he saw her! They're just not meant to be!😭
Também acredito que ele a amava, do modo dele! Se ela não estivesse casado com Alfred, com certeza ele ficaria com ela, e não teria se casado com Izabela II!
You definitely loves them you know that
ESTA,PELICULA,ES,EXTRAORDINARIA
I think the biggest regret in this movie isn't from Tristan not being able to save his brother, or Tristan's regret/guilt of almost kissing Susannah before going off to war. the biggest regret was Susannah's from not waiting for Tristan's return. You can tell he wished she did, but she married his brother. When he said go home he meant it and Susannah knew then that she had sealed her fate by marrying Alfred
I would never wait for a man that long. She needed to move away from that familu and start a life elsewhwre.
@@katierojas8066 haha that would be a funny twist in the movie
I agree, but that line was cruel. Because he did write her telling her not to wait.
What a cruel thing for her to say to Tristan, “I wanted your brother to die” “I wanted your wife to die.” All so she could have him. His brother and his wife were the people he loved most. I think she said that hurtful stuff to him because he pulled away from her after she kisses him. She realizes he will never love her, never did, and so she cuts him deep with her words. Running through all three brothers is kinda creepy.
She should have gone home after her soldier died.
Если бы она пошла домой, после того,как погиб её солдат,то фильм бы закончился
She tried to go home, the father asked her to stay.
Fast jeder kennt es -- unerfüllte Liebe tut unendlich weh!
Impossibile recitare bene così senza amore ❤
I stil sometimes dream i'm mother of your children 💔💔💔😭😭😭
Yes, this one hits the most 😭
FELT SO SORRY FOR SUSANNAH IN THIS SCENE REALLY SAD ❤
Susannah feels guilty but still hopeful...Samuel is gone.. now Elizabeth II....What would she be willing to do to Alfred..??? So close and still not possible... Now she knows that there is no chance and that is why she killed herself.
que triste el amor traspasa todas las barreras gracias
I’ve seen too many clips of this movie just because of how perfect it is. Showing the imperfections of a family, proving after all that blood is thicker than “water”. I always look at the comments and I never notice anyone pointing at the main issue, the lack of a mom in your children life. The way they introduced Susannah was perfect, not looking too young, not too old. She could even be Dad’s new partner, main reason all of them were touched by her love and kindness. You can see this when they all are eating at the table, all of them trying to be courteous with her. They were missing a mom, Tristan never forgive himself for his little brother death and also for crossing the line with his fiancee, main reason at the jail he said to Susannah “go home, go to Alfred “. He crossed the line one time, he is not doing it anymore, even knowing she was his true love. Tristan also grew hating mom for leaving them. Alfred was the envy brother, he was seeking dad approval, he wanted to be better than Tristan, you see this when Dad is saying goodbye to them while going to war, he only trusted Tristan enough to keep them both safe because he knew Tristan was different.
Tristan had severe PTSD, he was trying to kill everything out of rage, to the point of having severe episodes (when they’re holding him in one of the scenes). He also tried to commit suici** in that mountain only saved by the horse fear of falling down. Tristan also thought that he was rejected by God because of cursing him when Samuel died. He’s the perfect representation of pain changing your life through acceptance,guilt and sorrow. When he left he knew this was his problem, he needed to heal first, knowing he could lose everything. Sending that letter to Susannah it was probably due to his depression, thoughts making you feel less and not worth it. At the end Alfred finally gained dad approval, their last hug proved this, and forgiving Tristan, minding more family bonds. Susannah’s and Tristan love was a true tragedy, they were connected since their first moment close!
When you don t have balanced unconditional love as a child , you always seek love where u won t get it. If ur parents r insecure, u seek love in insecure partners. Suzanne was insecure and Tristan immature
I really enjoyed reading your interpretation. Someone in a comment somewhere said that even the Coronel was in love with her, and actually looking back, it makes sense, not that he would act on it. That house was very unbalanced with all those men.
This film has always reminded me of someone. It's too painful for me to watch‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
akting yang sangat hebat dari seorang julia ormond, membuat film ini selalu saya tonton sampai tua......
Que canción de la banda sonora es la que se escucha de fondo??
Ormond era innamorata di Brad
I thought a good parody movie could be made of this after seeing it, but its kind of so silly that it doesn't need one.
My love😘😎🎼🎶🕊❣️🎻❣️😪🙏🏿........
Como duele algo así pasó en mi vida real 😢 💔
Unrequited love is a bitch!😭😭😭
All of the actors in this movie are phenomenal!
Superb
Um dos drama melhor que já vi 😮 amei 👋🥰🇧🇷🤦💞💞👉♥️👈😍
I'm so sad to Tristan life
I wish he would have stayed and they lived happily ever after together but then it wouldn’t make for such a good movie
Pessoas que se amam verdadeiramente a atitudes tomadas baseadas em valores errados. Só causam tristeza e destruição à sua volta. O Tristan e ela se amavam de verdade. Um amor que vai ser vivido na eternidade ❤.
Silvia's mum is 152cm,very short.
With all things being equal, Silvia's dad will be either 183cm(if she took her dad's bones) or 195cm(if she combined both bones),which I settled for the latter.With her long legs,I figured her dad was over 6feet(6'4).
She didn't grow well.
I made up my mind to uniform her height when we go to GH,to about 173cm-175cm
I cry🤦♂️
There's a movie called Water & Fire. Very similar to this one. It's Turkish with English subtitles. It will touch your hearts too
I wanted him to be with Susanna
We all did honey. But he was broken and she couldn't fix him so he left her.
You can say what ever you want. She was crazy she slipped with all three brothers come on. Isabel II knew what she wanted as a little girl she said that she was going to marry Tristan and she did. Susannah was just a flussy.
She wasn’t a floozy 🙄 and she didn’t even sleep with Samuel. It was kind of a first love. College sweethearts that never went past a kiss before he died. What did she really know about love at that point? Until Tristan. With Tristan it was passion. She fully loved him and was committed to him, but he left her and was gone for *7 years.* What was she supposed to do? Alfred loved her the way she loved Tristan and she couldn’t stay at the ranch waiting for Tristan forever. Forever got to be too long. Yes she settled for Alfred, but only really loved Tristan
@@CJLOVE23 I know, what kind of a strange life was that for Susannah being an unmarried woman just hanging out at the ranch for all those years, especially in those days just on the chance that Tristan might decide to show up someday. Marrying Alfred and having a good and prosperous life with a man who loved her was not a bad choice, but then of course Tristan had to show up and cause turmoil.
She didn’t sleep with Samuel actually
Bingo! Trashy but still one of my favorite movies!
No, I think she wanted Tristen from the moment she saw him. And then had to take what she was able to get. Always hard to settle when the one thing you REALLY want is dangled before you.
We will just talk to the soul and something to bath for the dust(body) and roots(veins and intestines) etc to change to what we want.
WOW...😓
28QUEENS and 7YOUNG QUEENS.
5Rows of 7
Do you guys think that Susannah was truly in love with Tristan or more the idea of Tristan and what he represented: freedom, independence and an uninhibited zest for life? In the end, you just feel sorry for her because she felt hopeless without being able to have the life she envisioned with Tristan.
Obvious reasons. He was hot. She wanted passion, a hot partner like many women. She fell deeply in love I reacon. That's why she went along with Afted. Never tried to change him to be full of life. She settled for who he was because she will never feel for anyone but Tristan.
When she says "Didn't I?" I always suspected that she paid the O'.'banion's to kill Isabella.
They weren't aiming to kill anyone, It was just to scare Tristan off, Unfortunately a stray bullet bounced off the wall and hit Isabelle Two . Alfred himself said it was a terrible and tragic accident.
I guess what she meant was that she wished her dead… she is basically saying she still loves him always have always will.
Susannah had nothing to do with Izzy's death. The O'Bannons saw Tristan with the liquor in town and followed him out of town to scare him.
I think that was her way to say that she realized how much she loved Tristan and that the only life she imagined for herself was being by his side and nothing else, everything else in her reality was not right for her. But mentioning Samuel and Isabel put Tristan off, because he loved them so much. But ironically, this scene shows similar traits between Susannah and Tristan, both their characters never let go of grief and guilt. She was having mixed feelings, contradictory feelings, she loved Isabel but was relieved that she died and that she had a chance with Tristan again. She and Tristan had so much trauma.
Most women find the grass on the other side, but then realize the grass is not greener than their grass at home, but then many times desire to return. I have never and will never allow that to happen, and neigher did Tristan
This goes either way whenever anyone strays. Doesnt matter if man or woman
Tristana came back for susanna but he couldn't take his brother's wife again...
He could smell her desperation, a big turn off for men. No chasing, she was easy.
It’s a turn off for women too.
Holy hell you missed the depth of this scene and the movie by a mile.
Only in a movie would a woman still get married with 1 of the 3 brothers after she slept with all of them.....In reality, the brothers would have slept with her and treated her like a booty call but they would never marry her. Especially not at that time
She was engaged to Samuel and at that time it would have been unlikely she slept with him. She probably didn’t. Only Tristan snd alfred. But yes you’re right in that Alfred probably wouldn’t have wanted her after she was with Tristan.
Tristan and Samuel had a conversation where they discussed Samuel was waiting till they got married and Alfred married her after she’d been with Tristan so he more than likely knew. He just loves her and thought they could be happy.
It's a dead restaurant,no one goes there.Their accoutrements are old and worn out.
I think Margharita sent two people to come there as customers.
Immediately I got there,I knew some of my wives wanted to spend some time in my room because they have missed me.
After the end of July,I need nobody.
If not DIO,who will do this,come for virgins,He will say no,I will be considerate and merciful.
She told him that wanted samuel's and Isabella II to be death. That shocked me out. Its not love that.
And they were together again in Benjamin Button
Twin flames!!!
There are several beautiful nuns waiting for me,many cardinals praying for me to release them from the unknown burden.
Am just doing them a favour.